WEBVTT - Cattle Mutilation 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.760 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:09.160 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:21.160 learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello there, 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.480 welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.920 name is Noel, and I am Ben. You are you 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:31.520 that it makes this stuff they don't want you to know? Uh, guys, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.000 we had a we had a pretty cool response to 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.360 our shout out corner. Really yeah, it was it people 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.640 asking for shout outs. It was, in fact, it is 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.240 Uh do do we want to do it one more time? 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:50.720 Chat at corners? A nice guys, Yeah, that was good. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.360 We're still feeling out the theme song. So our first 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:59.120 shout out today goes to Jeremy Seth Brauner. Uh. Jeremy said, 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.200 could you guys of an on air shout out to 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.959 my wife and I Jeremy and Chantell, who just celebrated 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:13.200 our one year wedding anniversary. Very nice. Congratulations Maybe a year, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:18.600 that's that's not an easy accomplishment, guys, did small businesses 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.560 I think can't make it a year, especially restaurants, restaurants, 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.320 it's a cutthroat industry. But congratulations Jeremy. Congratulations shantell. And 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.680 we've got another shout out fresh out of corner. This 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.679 one is to j Collins. Uh, he says, conspiracy stuff. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.280 When you asked your listeners for what kind of skinwalker 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.640 they'd want to be, I'm the one who said a 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:44.240 duck hashtag shout at coining. The next one goes out 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.920 to Holly a k A Kawaii five a girl ghost 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:55.160 shout out to you, Holly, uh yeah. And also, Holly, 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.640 you bribed us. You said I will send you boys 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:01.080 a gift for the studio if I guess if we 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.600 give you a shout out, so the balls in your court, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.720 my friends shout out as currency. I like it, shout 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.639 out as currency, you guys. This might be as big 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.400 as ben Bucks, which I'm still working on right So, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.280 thank you so much, Tollie. That's very nice for you, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:15.840 and it would be cool. I don't know what you 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.400 guys want. I've had a couple of things on my mind. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:22.000 I want to just a surprise. Yeah, okay, surprise is 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.480 kid by which I don't mean like feces in a 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.520 box or something. I mean like that would be awful. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.520 Thanks for showing me out. Here's some poop. Well you know, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.840 it's a big world, Matt. People have different values. But actually, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:40.359 on a serious note, we're not expecting anything. We give 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.079 a shout out. It's just a shout out corner. It's 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.359 just a chance for us to introduce on air listeners 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.240 to each other. It's just a fun thing we like 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.600 to do. That's right, And one day I will get 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.760 my boat back, Thank you, thank you. And speaking of 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.600 oh yeah, that's right, they did treat that as well. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:03.200 And speaking of fun times and astonishing segues, have you 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.200 guys ever spent time on a farm or visited or 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.480 you know, mine's probably the weakest of of of our stories, 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.760 but I did take a field trip when I was 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.960 an elementary school to a dairy farm, and I don't know, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.600 I just remember thinking that cows were very strange creatures 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.359 to be close to, because it's like, on the one hand, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.400 you think they're dumb and they don't really care about 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.160 what's going on as long as they've got what is 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.080 it cut, you know, something to to choose some grass 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.680 with on which too much um. But then you look 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.360 at him and sun and you get the sense that 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:38.080 there might be something going on. You know, they might 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.880 know something that we don't know. That's that's really interesting. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.880 Stayed with me. I'm not kidding, no, I would agree 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.400 with you. As a kid, I had an elementary school 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.560 friend who his grandparents lived in a very rural area 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.800 in Georgia here and there were just there's just farmland 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.320 that just not even formally just pastures really and they 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.280 would just expand out and what we would do is 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:03.240 go grabb like makeshift swords out of wooden sticks and 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.880 stuff and just kind of travel along around on this 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.200 huge acres and acre just sounds like you had a 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.440 magical childhood. Man, it was pretty dope. Got I mean 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.760 no nothing uh technological to ground me while I'm out 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.479 there exploring. It was cool. But one of the things 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.240 one of the other areas of land that was there 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.960 somebody else's land. They had cows, they had there were 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.840 a couple of horses and stuff like that. They were 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.320 just roaming around. And one of the things that struck 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.599 me when we were talking about this is what you 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.599 just said. Uh, they seemed to be extremely gentle. I 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.000 never actually got close enough to touch them, but they 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.680 would just kind of hang out by the fence and 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.600 like look at you. But they would look at you, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.960 you know, and just kind of like, you know, cows 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:49.039 only move out of distress. And apparently I read this 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.000 somewhere and maybe I heard it as a sinister thing 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.599 a serial killer character said in a television show. Not 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.760 a percent sure, but apparently one reason that they move 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:06.159 is their mourning are slaughtered children. Who well, cow's our sapiens. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.760 Do you have intelligence? Uh? Maybe not necessarily wisdom. I 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.440 have a similar experience in my personal life, which, as 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.640 you guys know, rarely talked about on air. But this 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.200 might be enjoyable. Uh So, in one of the places 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:26.799 I was living, it was adjacent to a fairly small 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.600 cattle operation, but when you're a kid, everything is bigger. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.760 So we jumped the fence and go exploring in that 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:38.320 area and sneaking into the farm late at night. I 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.000 don't know what the statute of limitations is on this, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.080 but we never caused any physical damage, right, and I 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.240 think how tipping is It is a dangerous thing for 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.520 the cow. But we had invented a sport we called 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.840 cow fishing, which is that we would go into um 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.360 into where the cattle were set up for the night, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.680 get onto the second floor, and then take an ear 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.640 of corn and tie fishing line around it and then 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.960 tie it to a stick, and then we would go 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.919 to them. We would lean over where the you know, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.360 the cow was sleeping, and then we would sort of 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.800 tap it on its head and it would look left 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.440 and it would look right, and we're trying to figure 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.080 out if they could look up. We didn't know much 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.120 about cows. And then we would extend this ear of 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.200 corn in front of the cow's face so that the 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:32.359 cow could see it. And listeners, you probably, unless you 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.080 have psychic powers, can't see it right now, but I'm 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.359 gesticulating this thing. I'm explaining it nonverbally as well to 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.120 our friends Knell and Matt here. So I would extend 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.760 this ear of corn out where the cow could see it. Now, 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.200 keep it far away, because I was a stupid kid, 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.520 and I wanted to see what they would do. And 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.960 that's how I discovered that cows have disturbingly long, almost 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.400 prehensile tongues, because the tongue comes out and then it wraps. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.800 I see it like wrap around this ear of corn, 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.039 and I freak out and I dropped the thing and 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.039 I ran away, and I haven't been back since, you know, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.880 that's how in the game Minecraft you are able to 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:14.160 ride animals, which consist of pigs and cows and horses. 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.760 I think, um, you have to fashion a fishing pole 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.400 and put a carrot on the end of it, and 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.720 then you mount the farm animal and you you fish. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.960 I had no idea, It's true. I have never played 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.440 Minecraft's good like. I just have to say, I can 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.960 imagine that being terrifying. Uh, the a cow doesn't seem 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.080 like an animal that would have a tongue like that, 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.520 I guess in your mind, maybe especially as a kid. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.320 I'm not like a you know, a cow, professor. It's 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.920 also real purple and spitty. I mean, it's it's a 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:47.920 it's a pretty intense thing. Looks like some sort of 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.960 like mutant slug from like a sci fi movie. But 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.720 but we do know that cattle are intelligent. That's one 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.520 thing is coming up in all three of our stories. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.240 We do know that these animals have the ability to 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.720 have their own personalities, right to remember other members of 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.920 their of their pure group or if you want to 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.720 see their family structure, their their tribe. And we know 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.320 that there are a heck of a lot of them. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.400 Do you know how many yeah, thanks for asking. As 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.600 of January one, two thousand fifteen, according to the National 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.640 Cattleman's Beef Association, there are eighty nine point eight million 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.800 cows in the US. That's actually up from January a 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:34.920 whole percent, a whole one percent. Uh. This this translates 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:40.000 to a forty four billion dollar industry. This also means 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.600 that you know, these cows are broken up. Some are 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:47.000 milk cows, most are beef cows. Right. And you can 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.520 clearly listeners tell because after all, it is what's for dinner. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.320 It is his you mean, the beef, right, and nut milk, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.840 the beef milk. It's what's for dinner. That's all. We have, bread, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:04.040 milk stick. It grows. So with this huge industry, with 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:08.600 this livestock we are I don't want to enter into 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.760 too much of the argument over whether or not it's 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.800 right to eat animals. That's maybe a different show. But 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.719 we're just establishing that these things are everywhere. You, if 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.439 you live in the US, have probably at some time, 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.480 at the very least gone by a cow field like 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:30.679 cow pastor right. Uh. And the funny thing is that 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:36.920 every so often on these ranches in these pastors when 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.199 they call the cows home and all of them show up. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.640 And that is what today's episode is about. For anyone 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:47.360 who just didn't read the title of the episode, it's 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.360 about the cattle to get maybe stranded or just one 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.160 straight a little too far away from the herd. And 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.480 then it's like Homeward Downd the movie, but with like 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.360 a cow, I would love that? Who would have trying 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.880 to find its a home? Who would it? Would be 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:08.960 a precocious pig and a perhaps a fox um, all 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.480 with celebrity voices. The only difference in the Homeward Bound 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.640 version of that, and then the one that we're going 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:20.400 to describe today is that it ends in invisceration, exanguination, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:25.120 and uh, the death of the main character. Yes, so 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:29.360 what is cattle mutilation? Well, the typical definition of cattle 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:36.560 mutilation is the killing um and disfigurement, disembowelment, evisceration, shall 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:41.160 we say, of cattle under anomalous or you know, unusual 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.200 kind of suspect circumstances, Well, they often appeared to be 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:49.560 partially skinned, or they have incisions that appear to have 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:54.520 been done with surgical precision, which is pretty unusual. And 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.520 often these animals are reported to have been exanguinated or 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:04.920 drained entire hirely of blood. Um, they're soft parts, the eyes, 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.920 their organs, all the good guscy stuff. Yeah, the hind 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:12.640 cores are missing. Yeah, they're sexual organs as well. Yeah, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.680 it's a pretty gruesome thing to have happened to anything 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:22.200 any living being. Um, it's it's crazy too. It's not 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.199 just we've been talking about cows this whole time. It's 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.400 not just that cattle. Other livestock have experienced this kind 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.520 of thing. You'll you'll see it in I know, sheep 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.440 and goats have been it's been reported in those two, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:37.400 in particular, horses as well. Yeah, we we've also there's 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:42.319 one case that we might get to today in which 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.200 is an excellent example of this. But but here's the deal. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.880 You've probably heard of cattle mutilations, right, listeners, I mean, 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.559 the X files is back on, people are people are 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.800 more likely now to check it out than they were previously. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.160 And we've often heard what what are the initial reports 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.720 We've always heard, right, We've always heard like, oh, it's 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.160 uh aliens. No no, no, my friend, that's a coyote. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.280 No no, no, no, no, no no, it was somebody else yeah, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.560 that was a human. Yeah. I mean, I think something 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.400 that distinguishes these cases from just a typical um animal 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.960 malling or an animal attack is the nature of some 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.440 of the wounds. I mean, I think, you know, a 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.240 typical cattle rancher farmer is experienced with wild animals and 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.200 probably be aware of what it would look like if, say, 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:36.600 a coyote had attacked one of their animals, right, Yeah, 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.560 and that that's a good point because ranchers see a 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.480 lot of stuff and uh vets who work on on 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.880 animals with animals also see a lot of stuff. And 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.440 that's one of the big arguments will be getting to. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.160 So the various biologists and experts and law enforcement officers 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.520 and ranchers investigating this over time have a number of 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:05.040 like oculative causes, right and um, they're pretty much exactly 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.760 what you're naming natural predation, scavenging, human intervention like loan 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.719 killers a k A. Board teenagers you're write a k A. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.960 Future Dahmers, you know, or what was that got ed 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.840 geen gang? Yeah, the real life inspiration for the Texas 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.040 chainsaw massacre. Very disturbing stuff. Would love to do a 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.480 show about that. And then there are the ideas of 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:35.520 maybe humans, but not just some loan unhappy kid. Uh 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.920 who you know what. On a side note, you would 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:43.040 have to be a very very very strong, loan unhappy 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.679 kid to take that. To do your homework, man, I mean, 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.440 you can't just go in half cocked and just you know, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.800 knock out a cow and then go to town on 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.480 in soft parts. I mean you really have to come 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:55.640 with a taser or some kind of like a mall 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.400 one of those air guns. You'd probably be the best movie, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.920 like one of the air guns they that the guy 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.760 used in um No Country for Old Men. Yeah. Well, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.600 as as we're going to find a little later that 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.760 the the idea of any medicinal smell around one of 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.800 these animals that's experienced this, or some kind of the 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.959 surgical cuts. Perhaps even I don't know, man, there might 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.880 be people working together on this. It might not be 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.600 a lone person, right. What if it's a cult. What 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.200 if it is some sort of government agency or affiliated 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.200 thing operating in secret exciting stuff And we'll get to 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.440 it at this time. We have to say though, that 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.000 the mainstream news and most of the stuff you're going 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.800 to read or encounter when you look this up is 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:44.240 going to argue that this is the result of what 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.520 do we in the video? We had a good line, um, 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:53.320 Mankind's original and most brutal enemy nature, Right, Yeah, the 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:58.000 the the first antagonist for this species. But let's look 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.280 at the timeline because although we might associate in here 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:05.200 in the US cattle mutilation with something from the seventies 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:15.240 or whatever, the story of mutilating animals dates back, way, way, way, 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.000 way further. Can you hear me going back? Yeah? You 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.360 went so far back there. And the reason it goes 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.760 back so far is because it isn't necessarily the slaughtering 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:32.360 of an animal like this wasn't necessarily historically always for food, right, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.480 there was another reason. Sometimes you would slaughter an animal 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:41.080 in a ritualistic manner to appease perhaps a god or 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.760 God's Did you guys ever watch the HBO series Rome. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.160 I have not. It's actually pretty good. Um. There's a 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.400 scene though, where one of the main female characters, who 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.560 is very wealthy head of a family, UM, is trying 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.320 to curry favor from the gods. I believe to have 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.920 her son, the life of her son spared UM in battle, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.800 and she goes into this temple where a priest conducts 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.240 this ritual wherein a bull is walked out onto a 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:16.120 metal grate and um basically slaughtered and gutted, and the 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.680 blood pours down through the grates onto the character and 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.440 she has drenched in it and then walks up the 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.800 priest and says, your son will be spad. That's hot, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.000 but blood fresh blood is pretty hot. I guess yes, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:35.040 and several levels. So we're we're both agree. And it's 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.160 fascinating that you say that, because this this is exactly 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.800 what we're talking about when we're talking about sacrifice right 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.400 um to gain fertility, right for the gods to look 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.320 favorably upon your next endeavor in war, or you want 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:52.560 to save your son right. And we know that this 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.600 exists across multiple religions, multiple places. As Matt said earlier, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.920 we have some specific examples. One is practice that was 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:08.800 called October horse or equas October an ancient Roman religions. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.440 What what would happen is there would be these three 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.960 uh days of like racing, chariot racing, and during one 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.240 of these races, which always occurred on the IDEs of 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:24.400 October October UH, the winners of the two horse chariot race, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:30.560 which sacrifice their right hand horse, and this was propitiation 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.760 to believe the god. Mars strange, but that's not the 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.760 only thing. And this is why, no, your example of 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.959 the show room is so good because it's based on 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.440 some real life stuff that happened in Rome. Right. Our 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.480 next example is that in the age of the Roman Empire, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:55.400 worshipers also sacrificed bulls, stub balls, stubb bulls. And they 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.359 did this so often that we even have a word 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.920 for it, and it is our word of the day, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.119 or I guess word of the week since it is 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:12.360 a weekly podcast. Taro boleum more like whoa yeah, yeah, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.520 because every time say you gotta go crazy, but that 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.480 was the bullgoing crazy and then getta. That's strange to 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.960 me that that's a lot of street cred when something 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.000 happened so often that there is a specific word for it. Well, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.680 maybe listeners throughout this podcast, uh, you know, you can 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:38.439 play along at home and when we say tarot bolium cool. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:43.640 That was great. And also this sacrificial right, it kind 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.359 of carried on in several other religions. In Judaism, you 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.480 had the corbon, which was a whole set of sacrificial 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.280 offerings Uh, that are they're they're also in I believe 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.800 in Christianity and Islam, there are different there are different offerings. 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:00.520 Some of them are sacrificial in chu or some of 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.000 them are symbolically sacrificial in nature. Um. You know, if 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.640 you go back to the Little Testament, specifically in Christianity, 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.400 you can find some sacrifice and going on. And there 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.040 was a lot of specifics to like. I mean, you 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.200 would sacrifice the lamb for a certain type of favor, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.600 and you know, a goat perhaps for another. It's interesting 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.879 the language of sacrifice. I like the title of that. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.119 That that could be the title of something, the Language 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.159 of Sacrifice, not as a book, but what an album 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.680 that would be. Uh. And I wonder if in case 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:37.400 you're listening to the show Radiohead, you're welcome. Uh. So 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.000 the this is a great point that you're making old 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.800 because anytime this had a religious angle to it, it 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.280 wasn't just that I'm killing the right animal, well, it 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.960 was super super important. It was also what day, what 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.119 time am I killing this animal? How right am I 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.560 saying the right words? Are we wearing the correct vestments? 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:01.680 Highly ritualized? Highly ritualized? And this is important. The reason 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.120 we're talking about this today is because as we look 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.800 at modern cattle mutilation, this is one way in which 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.720 we could differentiate between the random acts of a predator 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:20.520 and the purposeful, stylized even um machinations of a human 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.280 being or a group of or a group of human 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:29.320 beings or a group of extraterrestrial spoiler alert. So early 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.239 reports just go through this this part pretty quickly. Earlier reports. Uh. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.639 If you like our show, you may also be a 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:40.639 fan of a magazine called The fourteen Times forty Times, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.600 which is magazine reporting on fringe theories and the paranormal 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.600 is named after a guy named Charles Fort who was 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.399 an early paranormal researcher, and he actually conducted a little 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:58.119 bit of cursory research into mutilations of livestock in the US, 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.320 which is how we know that these kind of reports 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.440 date back as far back as the late nineteenth century. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.040 And that's fascinating to to have it go back that far. 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.520 I didn't know much about Charles Fort in the forteen Times. Unfortunately, 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:16.200 I have seen it. Unfortunately, yes, but I've I've seen 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.600 it all over the place, and it mentioned specifically the 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.560 forum the fourteen Times, where people will discuss the topics 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.120 that we are generally looking up. But I had no 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:28.320 real understanding of the back story, but we did in 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.600 in making this video for this week, I found some 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:34.960 old books, and one in particular that that is referenced 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:41.480 here is called low l O exclamation mark, Yes, precisely, 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.800 and it has several several different topics that it goes through. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.440 And one of the coolest things the chapters are full 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.280 on sentences, which is kind of neat. I appreciated that 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:56.399 a lot. And we we know that despite these reports, 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.919 this was not an issue of national concern for wild 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.879 that this would be instead a lurid story that's in 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.919 a on the below the fold in your newspapers, that 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:12.000 is until in nineteen sixty seven. So in nineteen sixty 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:17.480 seven this phenomenon reached the mainstream when um a lady 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.640 by the name of Agnes King and her son Harry 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:27.679 found that their mayor lady had been gruesomely murdered, mutilated, 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:32.119 partially skinned uh de fleshed shall we say, around the 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:37.159 neck and head, and lady had also been exanguinated drained 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.399 of all of her blood, the classic version of a 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:45.440 cattle mutilation. In nineteen sixty seven. Yeah, it's too bad. Uh. 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:48.480 And it occurred just for everyone's curious, it occurred in 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.199 September of sixty seven. So this is not doesn't have 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.480 a one on one connection with the old practice of 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:58.040 the october horse. But that's a question that you probably 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:03.040 had as well. This garnered this attention. It was reported 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.159 in the Pueblo Chieftain. It was in Colorado, and after 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.119 this reported, this is where Agnes's son, Harry, is the 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.720 one who reported that strong medicinal odor, which will come 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:17.200 into play later. Concerns over these so called mysterious mutilations 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:22.240 of livestock went on as the years grew, and eventually 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:27.840 it reached the ears of representatives of the government. So 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.520 in nineteen five, a guy UH named Floyd K. Haskell, 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.480 Colorado Senator, reaches out to the FBI for help. He said, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.359 there have been reports of mutilations in nine states, and 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.040 as far as he could tell, there were a hundred 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:45.160 and thirty cases of livestock mutilation in Colorado. Now, this 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.240 is something our timeline gets a litt fuzzy here because 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:52.520 I'm not sure how aware UH Senator has Skeol was 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.600 at the time that the a t F the Bureau 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:58.280 of Alcohol, Tobacquo and Firearms had conducted a study to 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:03.400 see if there was any truth of rasty to cult involvement. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:05.920 And keep in mind, this is during a time when 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.680 there was a burgeoning panic over possible Satanic colds in 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.720 the US, right, the Satanic panic, the Satanic panic, precisely, No, 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.600 and this this a t F thing found that there 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.159 there really wasn't enough evidence to draw some kind of 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.120 link like that. They just needed to know, and state 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:29.440 level investigations differed, but also had also had a lot 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:35.200 of a lot of disturbing numbers. Right. So for instance, 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.920 we get a lot of information from the New Mexico 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:44.399 State Police's investigation, wherein they found that there might be 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.480 as many as eight thousand and estimated eight thousand cattle 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.400 mutilations in Colorado. And they know for sure because again 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.560 this New Mexico State Police. But in nineteen seventy nine, 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.320