WEBVTT - The Battle for Our Democracy 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, peep Sena. Welcome to WIKA F Daily with 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.400 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the home Bunker, Folks, 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.840 I want to start off today by talking about something 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:26.200 that is not going to get as much news as 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.400 it should, which is this. You'll hear about it, you know, 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.479 maybe you will have heard about it yesterday. Maybe you'll 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.120 hear about it for a day or two, but then 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.880 it'll go away as most things do in the news cycle. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:45.640 But it's this. The Congressional Gold Medal was given to 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:51.239 the officers who defended the capital on January six, who 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.080 put their lives on the line, including officer Brian Sicknik, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:01.640 who was killed during the mob riot attack on our 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:07.360 democracy in our capitol building. And at the event was 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:14.320 Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, among others, 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:20.199 and as these heroes because that's what they are, right Like, yes, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.120 their job is to serve and protect, but I don't 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.440 think that anybody thinks about the potential of a government 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:34.119 overthrow when they become a Capitol police officer. And when 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:41.240 those officers, including Brian Sicknick's family, were going up to 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:46.000 shake the hands of members. They skipped over Mitch McConnell 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:50.840 and Kevin McCarthy, and it was a very public snub. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.080 We knew that, you know, this was going to be 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.480 a clip that was going to go and be played, 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.560 you know, over and over again for a day or so. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.840 And I want to say bravo to those families, to 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:13.560 those officers, because the audacity, first of all, that there 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:18.720 were Republican members who didn't even vote, They didn't even 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.680 want to have a ceremony, let alone give these heroic 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:28.000 officers the Congressional Gold Medal. No, if you remember Marjorie 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.480 Taylor Green, as the Republicans come in to take power 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.200 in January, third of the House by a very slim 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.959 like five or six feet margin, wants an investigation into 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.200 the treatment of the rioters so she could give a 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:47.360 fuck about the treatment of the officers on that day. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.840 You see, the Republicans are always so you know, bold 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.639 when they want to chant blue lives matter. But when 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.960 those blue lives were actually put on the line to 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.679 defend our democracy and to defend their pathetic lives, they 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.360 can't be bothered with so much as a thank you, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.440 with so much as a vote on something that should 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:15.920 be a no brainer, because regardless on that day, on 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:22.360 January six, twenty twenty one, could have been a lot worse. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.920 And you know, sometimes I think about it, and not 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.960 because I wish death or harm upon anyone, but I 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:34.239 wonder if members of Congress had been murdered, if the 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.920 Vice President of the United States had been hung on 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.480 a gallows in front of the Capitol building, if they 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.119 had found his location or the location of Nancy Pelosi, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.160 or the location of Alexandrio Cassio Cortez, and they were 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:56.920 brutally murdered or beaten as Paul Pelosi was in his 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.640 own home, what would the response be Would it be 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.880 just more of the same, because we have all been 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.760 sitting around wondering and waiting to figure out where is 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:13.720 the bottom here? For Republicans, where do they draw the line? Well, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.760 they don't. There is no line for them to be drawn. 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:21.080 Donald Trump, And this is but a blip in the 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.960 way that the mainstream media is also covering this story. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.839 Donald Trump a couple of days ago, gets on his 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:34.320 broke gass Twitter knockoff truth social and says that one 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.400 once again is just continuing to spread the lie. This 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.440 man is so stuck in three fucking years ago from now. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.720 Donald Trump is one of those old people who you 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:53.279 would think his brain is deteriorating because nothing about the 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.320 present or the future is actually in focus. For Donald Trump. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.440 Everything everything is in the past. Everything has to do 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.719 with this last election, not the midterms, of course, but 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.280 the last presidential election in twenty twenty. Folks. We're entering 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.400 into twenty twenty three in a couple of weeks, and 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.520 Donald Trump is still talking about the twenty twenty election. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.279 But on top of that, on his broke ass Twitter 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.720 truth social he decides to say that we need to 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.960 abolish the Constitution altogether. This comes on the heels of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.800 him meeting with two anti semites and white supremacs, both 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:37.200 fucking ya Kanye West and Nick Flente's both believe in 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.280 and spout the same series of bullshit. So there is 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.680 you know, one and the same there. But Donald Trump says, 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.320 we need to get rid of the Constitution, we need 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.000 to get rid of the articles. We need to get 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.000 you know, when there's been such an assault on paraphrasing 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.640 his bullshit, But when there is such an assault like 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.240 there was in twenty twenty, when I should have been 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.560 anointed king of America. We need to just get rid 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.159 of everything. Well, there have been a few Republicans that 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:12.440 have had tepid responses, as they do to the assertion 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.640 that the former president of the United States says that 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.320 we need to do away with our constitution. Now here's 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.479 the thing. Donald Trump has been telling us that he 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.200 doesn't believe in the constitution or the values of this 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.920 country ever since he came down his fucking escalator and 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.560 decided to run for the presidency and then, against all odds, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.880 actually win with all due help from the mainstream media. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.200 So the same way that they're not connecting the dots 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.440 right now to tell the American people like m this 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:48.400 is what authoritarianism and dictatorships look like. This is danger alert, 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.360 alert alert, because you see, if a Democrat would ever 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:58.680 utter such a absolutely batshit crazy statements such as we 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:03.840 need to do away with the constitution, Republicans would have 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.120 a field day. But these people don't give a fuck 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.560 about the rule of law, they don't care about the Constitution, 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:14.120 they don't care about democracy. Right now, folks, the Supreme 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:18.840 Court is deciding a slate, a slate of cases that 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.960 have to do with the ability of businesses to continue 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:27.200 to discriminate against the LGBTQ community on a hypothetical, fucking case. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.640 Jonathan and I will talk about that next. You have 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.840 Harper More v. Harper which is coming up, which it 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.680 would essentially up end all of our elections and the 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.520 Court would have no ability to intervene whatsoever, and basically 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.480 giving all power to the states to run away with 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.520 what it was that Donald Trump wanted to happen in 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.480 twenty twenty, which is that these state electors get to 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.200 decide elections as opposed to the people that actually go 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:56.400 out and vote. So when we think that like, oh, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.760 we're winning, we have to understand that the battle for 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.560 our democracy and the sanity and the values of this 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.680 nation actually rest in the hands of people who were 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:14.520 not elected by you. They were chosen by a corrupt 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:20.800 criminal twice impeach President and Mitch McConnell. Three justices sit 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.880 primed and ready to continue the erosion of our democracy. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:32.079 And majority of America is none the wiser. As I 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.720 speak right now, the polls have yet to close in Georgia. 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.760 We won't know the outcome of that race. And I 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.959 pray to God that Reverend Warnock doesn't just win. I 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.760 hope that he wins overwhelmingly, that the people of Georgia 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:56.440 overwhelmingly reject a fucking idiot puppet as their potential US Senator. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.800 Let me tell you something, who you vote to rep 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.280 resent you says a lot about who you are. And 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.040 if the people of Georgia overwhelmingly decide to vote for 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.199 a herschel Walker, well then we know everything we need 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:18.160 to know about the people of Georgia, don't we. When 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.880 I think about the slate of Supreme Court cases, when 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.920 I think about Donald Trump wanting to do away with 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.640 the Constitution, when I think about the Republican Party that 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:34.760 has turned into a white supremist cult, I mean, as 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:40.800 we look to go into this new year, I don't 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.360 really know if the people of this nation have the 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:48.440 wherewithal to be as activated as they need to be. Now. Look, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.319 the midterms went a lot differently than many had anticipated. 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.120 But like I always say, do not pay attention to 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.120 the fucking polls. Pay attention to the polls that matter, 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.800 which is the one that people go inside and actually 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.280 vote in, because otherwise people are just throwing shit up 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.400 against the wall and guessing right they're guessing about what 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:14.520 is going to happen. But when I look at twenty 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:19.960 twenty three, which will be roughly the start, right of 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:25.360 the longest election cycle ever for the presidency, righted, everything 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.240 will be about who's going to run, who's announcing, when 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.840 they're going to announce, what's happening with Donald Trump, Will 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:37.240 we see indictments? You know, it's all very exhausting just 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.080 to even think about it. But there's another thing that 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.720 I'm thinking about on the heels of this awards ceremony 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:51.920 of these Capital Police, is that January six, twenty twenty three, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:11:01.239 will mark the second anniversary of January sixth, of the insurrection, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:09.840 of the attempt to overthrow our government. And aside from 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:17.440 last week's seditious conspiracy verdict against Stuart Rhodes, one of 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.240 the founders of the Oath Keepers, the subsequent trials that 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.400 are happening with the rest of the oath Keepers and 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:30.040 the Proud Boys, the Architects right, the Donald Trump, the 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:37.480 Rudy Giuliani, the Johnny Smith's right, the Virginia Thomas, the 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:42.360 you know, the people, the Steve Bannons, the people who 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.319 were in the war room in the Willard Hotel, are 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:51.199 still walking around free two years later, and our democracy, friends, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.040 is still hanging on by a thread. So I just wonder, first, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.199 we're not going to have a big marking and recognition 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.240 of that day because the Republicans will control the House. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:06.880 So unless the Senate actually decides to do something, you know, again, 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.520 they have the ability to erase history by not acknowledging it, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.400 by gaslighting the rest of us that like, oh, January 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.520 sixth is just another day. It's not. It's the day 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:25.280 that the world watch as Trumpers and Maga storm the 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:34.080 Capitol Building, broke in, killed police officers while the President 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.720 of the United States was in the White House throwing 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.680 catchup at the walls because he was so angry that 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:50.280 he couldn't be there, and he still no indictments, was 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:56.120 able to announce his second attempt at the presidency. Third, 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:02.160 I guess I don't know what this new year has 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.400 in store politically, but I can tell you that personally, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:12.840 we all need to recommit to fighting for this country, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:17.520 to fighting for our democracy, because unless the Republican Party 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.360 is put down in a very clear and distinctive way, 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.680 they're going to keep pushing, pushing for fascism. Pushing for 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:32.520 a dictatorship, pushing for authoritarianism until they have their way. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.360 We are the ones that we are waiting for. We 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.920 are the patriots that we are looking for to defend 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.880 this country. It is up to us and only us. 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.880 Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation with our in 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:57.040 house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzo. Folks, you know that whenever 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.600 we have the opportunity to speak with our in house 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.840 doctor or our good good friend, doctor Jonathan Metzel, I 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:08.960 am always super pleased. Jonathan. You know, the last time 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:14.920 we spoke last week, we talked about the seriousness of 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.920 the fact that we are becoming numb to the issues 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:25.239 of gun violence, to the issue issues of mass shootings. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.600 And during that time mayors across the country have actually 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:36.720 come together and written a letter to the Senate to 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:45.640 I believe also the President in saying that we need 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.720 to take action, we need support. There's only so much 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.880 that we can do in our own cities, in our 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.520 own states in order to keep people safe. And don't 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:58.240 don't people don't our citizens have the right to be 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.640 able to leave their homes, go to the grocery store, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.000 go to church, go to a synagogue, go to a mosque, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.560 go to school and be safe. So I wanted to 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.680 get your thoughts, Jonathan on this. This is not the 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.800 first time, this is not the first time that a 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:17.360 collection of mayors have come together to call on the Senate, 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.960 to call on the president to do something. So I 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.200 just want to get your thoughts on their letter, on 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:30.040 this collection of leaders, and whether or not there will 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.600 be anything other than thank you so much for writing 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.200 to us. Well, I think it's important right moral authority 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.520 of groups who are standing up against the kind of 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.920 insanity that we see. It's super important. I mean, it 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.120 reminds me also of doctors who have mobilized in a 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.720 campaign called this is My Lane, and victims families, the 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.360 people I study from mass shootings, they have mobilized also, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:58.880 And so you know, the more the more people are 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.840 out there forming elitions that can not just write letters 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:08.440 but also form effective voting blocks and mobilized during elections 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.840 and things like that. Of course, that's all very important 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.400 and brave, and people are fighting upstream. I will say that, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.840 you know, I think the lesson of my research is 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:23.840 that the power for gun policy ultimately rests in judges, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.600 and so liberal America has just been far too slow 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.200 to recognize that while we were out there doing marches 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.560 in the streets after mass shootings and all these important 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.400 great things, the other side was not making a ton 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.360 of noise. They were just putting in judges who were 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.120 bought and paid for by the NRA, And ultimately judges 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.080 are the ones who are going to be setting a 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.720 lot of gun policy. I mean, we see this with 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.640 the Supreme Court, but it's true throughout entire our entire system, 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.560 and it just took liberals way too long to figure 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:59.240 this out. That's why this Georgia election is so important, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.600 right because what does the Senate do, Among other things, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.560 they appoint judges, And I think that gun reform, if 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:11.440 that there's power from mayors, from communities, from survivors, from doctors, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.560 from everybody else, it gives the Senate the authority to 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.800 then seat judges who will uphold even the most basic, reasonable, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.120 common sense gun policies. But without that, we've just let 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:29.280 Mitch McConnell have a kind of federalist society checklist of 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.399 judges who, I mean, some of these judges had never 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.640 heard a case. They're only criteria for being a judge 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.880 is that they get an a rating from the NRA, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.080 and so we need to reverse that trend at the judiciary. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.200 And so it's all cumulative, it's all summative. But I 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:49.679 would say that without that, without that judiciary piece, it 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:53.400 becomes a protest move as opposed to a power move. Yeah, 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.439 And that was my feeling in question was whether or 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:03.239 not this was just a collective action that was going 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.720 to be taken. But was anything going to come out 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.440 of it? Was there going to be any real response? Right? 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.399 Because I mean, I, Jonathan, you've been doing this work 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:20.399 longer than most and I don't know the question that 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.200 the mayors pose, what was what is it going to take? 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.399 How many more lives need to be lost, how many 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.240 more you know, funerals need to be attended to, how 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.120 many more people you know have to look across their 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.679 table and you know, and and lose family members. And 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:41.480 I don't empathy. We always seek, Jonathan. I think that 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.600 in most of these battles to appeal to people's humanness, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.000 to appeal to their heart to we talk about changing 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.040 hearts and minds, And what you've just you know, iterated, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.760 is that this isn't a hearts and minds issue anymore, Right, like, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.800 this is this is a legal issue. This is about 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.800 who is going to be sitting on that bench that 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.160 is going to make decisions that are about the betterment 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.440 of this country, the safety of this country, and not 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.240 and not about who has a one hundred percent rating 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:20.320 with the n r A. Do you think then again, 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.760 that the messaging needs to shift in terms of what 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.840 we're asking for, because we keep saying, how will history 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.199 remember these people? How will the well what who cares? 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.840 They've rewrite history all the time. So I'm like, what 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.679 is what is the appeal and the push here? I 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.560 mean I do kind of laugh sometimes about how will 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.399 history remember these people? Because that implies people in the 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.080 future are going to be any more reasonable than people today, Right, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.840 But I mean, look at now compared to the past, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.200 Like you know, it's I think we have a pretty 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.840 good proof right now that history doesn't matter all that much. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.040 It's kind of like who has the power to write 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.480 the history? And so I mean there's another case not 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.719 linked to guns right now, the imaginative gay people use 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.120 your business case that was in front of the Supreme 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:09.359 Court yesterday, which just shows the power of having a 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.720 radicalized judiciary. No, I'm not suggesting liberals radicalized the judiciary, 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.639 but I am, But I mean, I mean what radicalized 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.840 means just reeling it back from the madness that's happened 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.680 right now, which is just incredible. And so I would 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:33.240 just say, I would just say that, you know, we 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.680 have a lot of repair to do again. Again, that's 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.080 why having fifty one senators is going to be so 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.920 incredibly important because Mitch McConnell, well, you know, while everybody 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.879 else's blah blah blah, you know, he's, as we know, 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:51.040 been running the table on all these judiciary appointments for 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:55.000 so long, and Trump appointed many, you know, three important 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.560 Supreme Court judges. And so what we're seeing right now 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.680 is this really radical intertion of the Supreme Court and 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:07.240 moved to up end long had long held civil liberties 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.000 and rights. And so I just think that I just 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.240 think that getting this back to some kind of normal 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:16.320 middle ground, it's not it's about elections, but elections leading 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.280 to judges, I think it is going to be where 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:19.760 this is. And I'll tell you one thing about the 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.440 Supreme Court case yesterday that I've been thinking about. This 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.840 is the case of the Colorado woman who didn't even 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:31.760 have a web wedding business. But if she did, maybe 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.840 some gay people would have maybe wanted her to use 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:38.440 their services. Like it was totally a speculative case. There 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.520 was no there's no litigant, there's no grieved party here. 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.000 The case that she imagined never happened. She actually didn't 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.000 even have the business yet, and so she's just saying, 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.440 I could be doing this with my business and gay 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.600 people could come to me, and I imagine, and so 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.040 she was, it's all speculation. And it's funny because I 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.400 see this with guns a lot too, that a lot 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.119 of gun policies. They'll they'll ask all these like Angela 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:06.200 Stroud as a sociologist. She wrote this great book, Good 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.080 Guys with Guns, and basically she went around Texas and 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.399 asked the guys, why do you why do you have 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.320 an air fifteen round your back and three pistols on 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.479 your waist, these white good guys with guns. And they 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.760 would say, well, a gang banger could come, or a 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.879 carjack or could come, or I could pull up to 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:27.679 the bodegas, somebody said, and mister baggy pants saggy pants 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.000 rapper could come and whatever, like all these really racist 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.840 racial stereotypes. And then she said, Man, I guess see 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.400 how you want a gun? Has that ever actually happened? 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.679 And in every case they were like, well no, but 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.800 it might. So it was all about this projection, this 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:48.480 kind of speculation that minoritized or aggrieved or you know, 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.159 disadvantaged group might do something to me and take my 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.439 privilege or wealth. And that's what kind of spread this 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.000 fear of guns, you know. And we saw it even 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.359 in New York, like a black guy could push you 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:01.560 on the subway tracks and stuff like that. Well maybe 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.560 that happened one or two times, um, but it was 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:09.120 it's all this speculation that plays into implicit bias and stereotype. 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.879 And it's just funny because, like I saw the same 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.000 method being used in the Supreme Court case that this 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.680 woman really was not aggrieved in any way. There was 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.720 no case, no gay people that ever come to her business, 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:23.520 which she didn't even have yet, So she was just 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:27.399 speculating like, oh, maybe some gay people could come to 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.480 me and therefore whatever. It reminded me so much of 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.560 these gun cases, and it's just another example. I mean, 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.879 in a in a balanced judiciary, this stuff would not 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.280 be seeing the light of day. It's completely undemocrat right, 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:42.760 because there's no there's no place, there's no plate, like, 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.400 there's no case, like, there's no case like giraffes are 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.680 protected by the Endangered Specie to Act. But if a 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.760 giraffe wants to come take my college class, why don't 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.160 I start a lawsuit now, just in case a giraffe 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:59.000 comes to take my class. Like this is never going 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.080 to happen, and so it and like it's not like 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.480 this woman was going to have a lot of gay clients. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.840 I don't think if she ever did open her business. 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.600 And so we're just in we're in the we're in 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.920 the kind of right, we're in speculative law where people 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.320 are just sitting around in their free time. I mean, 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.680 I had a tweet yesterday that I said, in psychiatry, 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.359 when you imagine gay people are going to do things 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.600 to you, we call that projection. Right, it has actually 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.000 something to do with you, not with actually the world. 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.000 And so we're in the world of kind of speculative 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.320 judiciary activism right now, which is a pretty dangerous place 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.840 to be. And so again I just think it's all 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.479 the more important for guns for everything else. Guns are 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:43.240 part of this same agenda that we that we turn 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.440 this turn the ship around as quickly as we possibly can, 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:53.960 and that means rebalancing the judiciary and particularly serve in court. Jonathan. 0:24:54.080 --> 0:25:00.200 If somebody is sitting around imagining nonsense right whe there, 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.439 it is the guys with six guns around their belt, 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.400 or this woman who's imagining all these gay people whose 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.359 money apparently she does not want because that makes sense, 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.520 and she doesn't even have that, she didn't even have. 0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:18.320 She doesn't she doesn't even have the business. And gay 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:24.240 people are going to make better websites than her anyway. Intersect, 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.960 how do you not intersect? How do you inject reality? 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.800 Or do you not? No, that's the thing is like 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.400 there there are crackpot of pains all the time. It's 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:37.960 just more like are they validated? And the minute you 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.480 have judges who are validating these crackpot things, I mean, 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.240 that's the issue is we've had, you know, we got 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.560 three hundred years or crackpots in this country. But if 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.600 the question is are these minority positions or are these 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.439 mainstream positions? And having them validated by the Supreme Court 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:59.359 makes this kind of projected, implicit, biased nonsense into into 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:03.560 an acceptable mode of lawmaking and so again that's the 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:07.639 issue is I don't know, I just you know, you 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.359 it's funny because you and I've been talking about this 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.360 for like years now that the Democrats were not did 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:14.600 not do what the Republicans did, which is the minute 0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.600 somebody won an election, come in with a slate of 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.960 like judges that are going to uphold your position. And 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:22.080 so I feel like it's it's kind of being figured 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.360 out now, but it's certainly taken a pretty extreme turn 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:30.960 of events to have that happen. You know, do you think, Jonathan, 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:37.040 that if the Supreme Court continues to rule in the 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.480 way that it's been ruling right with the Dabb's decision overturned, 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.720