1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, peep Sena. Welcome to WIKA F Daily with 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the home Bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to start off today by talking about something 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: that is not going to get as much news as 5 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: it should, which is this. You'll hear about it, you know, 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: maybe you will have heard about it yesterday. Maybe you'll 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: hear about it for a day or two, but then 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: it'll go away as most things do in the news cycle. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: But it's this. The Congressional Gold Medal was given to 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: the officers who defended the capital on January six, who 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: put their lives on the line, including officer Brian Sicknik, 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: who was killed during the mob riot attack on our 13 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: democracy in our capitol building. And at the event was 14 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, among others, 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: and as these heroes because that's what they are, right Like, yes, 16 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: their job is to serve and protect, but I don't 17 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: think that anybody thinks about the potential of a government 18 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: overthrow when they become a Capitol police officer. And when 19 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: those officers, including Brian Sicknick's family, were going up to 20 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: shake the hands of members. They skipped over Mitch McConnell 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: and Kevin McCarthy, and it was a very public snub. 22 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: We knew that, you know, this was going to be 23 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: a clip that was going to go and be played, 24 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, over and over again for a day or so. 25 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: And I want to say bravo to those families, to 26 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: those officers, because the audacity, first of all, that there 27 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: were Republican members who didn't even vote, They didn't even 28 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: want to have a ceremony, let alone give these heroic 29 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: officers the Congressional Gold Medal. No, if you remember Marjorie 30 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Taylor Green, as the Republicans come in to take power 31 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: in January, third of the House by a very slim 32 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: like five or six feet margin, wants an investigation into 33 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: the treatment of the rioters so she could give a 34 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: fuck about the treatment of the officers on that day. 35 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: You see, the Republicans are always so you know, bold 36 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: when they want to chant blue lives matter. But when 37 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: those blue lives were actually put on the line to 38 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: defend our democracy and to defend their pathetic lives, they 39 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: can't be bothered with so much as a thank you, 40 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: with so much as a vote on something that should 41 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: be a no brainer, because regardless on that day, on 42 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: January six, twenty twenty one, could have been a lot worse. 43 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes I think about it, and not 44 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: because I wish death or harm upon anyone, but I 45 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: wonder if members of Congress had been murdered, if the 46 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Vice President of the United States had been hung on 47 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: a gallows in front of the Capitol building, if they 48 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: had found his location or the location of Nancy Pelosi, 49 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: or the location of Alexandrio Cassio Cortez, and they were 50 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: brutally murdered or beaten as Paul Pelosi was in his 51 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: own home, what would the response be Would it be 52 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: just more of the same, because we have all been 53 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: sitting around wondering and waiting to figure out where is 54 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: the bottom here? For Republicans, where do they draw the line? Well, 55 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: they don't. There is no line for them to be drawn. 56 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, And this is but a blip in the 57 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: way that the mainstream media is also covering this story. 58 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: Donald Trump a couple of days ago, gets on his 59 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: broke gass Twitter knockoff truth social and says that one 60 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: once again is just continuing to spread the lie. This 61 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: man is so stuck in three fucking years ago from now. 62 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is one of those old people who you 63 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: would think his brain is deteriorating because nothing about the 64 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: present or the future is actually in focus. For Donald Trump. 65 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: Everything everything is in the past. Everything has to do 66 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: with this last election, not the midterms, of course, but 67 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the last presidential election in twenty twenty. Folks. We're entering 68 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty three in a couple of weeks, and 69 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is still talking about the twenty twenty election. 70 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: But on top of that, on his broke ass Twitter 71 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: truth social he decides to say that we need to 72 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: abolish the Constitution altogether. This comes on the heels of 73 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: him meeting with two anti semites and white supremacs, both 74 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: fucking ya Kanye West and Nick Flente's both believe in 75 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: and spout the same series of bullshit. So there is 76 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, one and the same there. But Donald Trump says, 77 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: we need to get rid of the Constitution, we need 78 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: to get rid of the articles. We need to get 79 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, when there's been such an assault on paraphrasing 80 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: his bullshit, But when there is such an assault like 81 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: there was in twenty twenty, when I should have been 82 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: anointed king of America. We need to just get rid 83 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: of everything. Well, there have been a few Republicans that 84 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: have had tepid responses, as they do to the assertion 85 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: that the former president of the United States says that 86 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: we need to do away with our constitution. Now here's 87 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: the thing. Donald Trump has been telling us that he 88 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in the constitution or the values of this 89 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: country ever since he came down his fucking escalator and 90 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: decided to run for the presidency and then, against all odds, 91 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: actually win with all due help from the mainstream media. 92 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: So the same way that they're not connecting the dots 93 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: right now to tell the American people like m this 94 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: is what authoritarianism and dictatorships look like. This is danger alert, 95 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: alert alert, because you see, if a Democrat would ever 96 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: utter such a absolutely batshit crazy statements such as we 97 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: need to do away with the constitution, Republicans would have 98 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: a field day. But these people don't give a fuck 99 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: about the rule of law, they don't care about the Constitution, 100 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: they don't care about democracy. Right now, folks, the Supreme 101 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Court is deciding a slate, a slate of cases that 102 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: have to do with the ability of businesses to continue 103 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: to discriminate against the LGBTQ community on a hypothetical, fucking case. 104 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan and I will talk about that next. You have 105 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Harper More v. Harper which is coming up, which it 106 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: would essentially up end all of our elections and the 107 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Court would have no ability to intervene whatsoever, and basically 108 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: giving all power to the states to run away with 109 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: what it was that Donald Trump wanted to happen in 110 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, which is that these state electors get to 111 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: decide elections as opposed to the people that actually go 112 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: out and vote. So when we think that like, oh, 113 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: we're winning, we have to understand that the battle for 114 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: our democracy and the sanity and the values of this 115 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: nation actually rest in the hands of people who were 116 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: not elected by you. They were chosen by a corrupt 117 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: criminal twice impeach President and Mitch McConnell. Three justices sit 118 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: primed and ready to continue the erosion of our democracy. 119 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: And majority of America is none the wiser. As I 120 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: speak right now, the polls have yet to close in Georgia. 121 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: We won't know the outcome of that race. And I 122 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: pray to God that Reverend Warnock doesn't just win. I 123 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: hope that he wins overwhelmingly, that the people of Georgia 124 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly reject a fucking idiot puppet as their potential US Senator. 125 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, who you vote to rep 126 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: resent you says a lot about who you are. And 127 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: if the people of Georgia overwhelmingly decide to vote for 128 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: a herschel Walker, well then we know everything we need 129 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: to know about the people of Georgia, don't we. When 130 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I think about the slate of Supreme Court cases, when 131 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: I think about Donald Trump wanting to do away with 132 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: the Constitution, when I think about the Republican Party that 133 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: has turned into a white supremist cult, I mean, as 134 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: we look to go into this new year, I don't 135 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: really know if the people of this nation have the 136 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: wherewithal to be as activated as they need to be. Now. Look, 137 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: the midterms went a lot differently than many had anticipated. 138 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: But like I always say, do not pay attention to 139 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: the fucking polls. Pay attention to the polls that matter, 140 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: which is the one that people go inside and actually 141 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: vote in, because otherwise people are just throwing shit up 142 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: against the wall and guessing right they're guessing about what 143 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: is going to happen. But when I look at twenty 144 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: twenty three, which will be roughly the start, right of 145 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: the longest election cycle ever for the presidency, righted, everything 146 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: will be about who's going to run, who's announcing, when 147 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: they're going to announce, what's happening with Donald Trump, Will 148 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: we see indictments? You know, it's all very exhausting just 149 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: to even think about it. But there's another thing that 150 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about on the heels of this awards ceremony 151 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: of these Capital Police, is that January six, twenty twenty three, 152 00:10:52,040 --> 00:11:01,239 Speaker 1: will mark the second anniversary of January sixth, of the insurrection, 153 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: of the attempt to overthrow our government. And aside from 154 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: last week's seditious conspiracy verdict against Stuart Rhodes, one of 155 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: the founders of the Oath Keepers, the subsequent trials that 156 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: are happening with the rest of the oath Keepers and 157 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys, the Architects right, the Donald Trump, the 158 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani, the Johnny Smith's right, the Virginia Thomas, the 159 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, the people, the Steve Bannons, the people who 160 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: were in the war room in the Willard Hotel, are 161 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: still walking around free two years later, and our democracy, friends, 162 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: is still hanging on by a thread. So I just wonder, first, 163 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: we're not going to have a big marking and recognition 164 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: of that day because the Republicans will control the House. 165 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: So unless the Senate actually decides to do something, you know, again, 166 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: they have the ability to erase history by not acknowledging it, 167 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: by gaslighting the rest of us that like, oh, January 168 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: sixth is just another day. It's not. It's the day 169 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: that the world watch as Trumpers and Maga storm the 170 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Capitol Building, broke in, killed police officers while the President 171 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: of the United States was in the White House throwing 172 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: catchup at the walls because he was so angry that 173 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: he couldn't be there, and he still no indictments, was 174 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: able to announce his second attempt at the presidency. Third, 175 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know what this new year has 176 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: in store politically, but I can tell you that personally, 177 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: we all need to recommit to fighting for this country, 178 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: to fighting for our democracy, because unless the Republican Party 179 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: is put down in a very clear and distinctive way, 180 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: they're going to keep pushing, pushing for fascism. Pushing for 181 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: a dictatorship, pushing for authoritarianism until they have their way. 182 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: We are the ones that we are waiting for. We 183 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: are the patriots that we are looking for to defend 184 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: this country. It is up to us and only us. 185 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation with our in 186 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzo. Folks, you know that whenever 187 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to speak with our in house 188 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: doctor or our good good friend, doctor Jonathan Metzel, I 189 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: am always super pleased. Jonathan. You know, the last time 190 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: we spoke last week, we talked about the seriousness of 191 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: the fact that we are becoming numb to the issues 192 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 1: of gun violence, to the issue issues of mass shootings. 193 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: And during that time mayors across the country have actually 194 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: come together and written a letter to the Senate to 195 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: I believe also the President in saying that we need 196 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to take action, we need support. There's only so much 197 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: that we can do in our own cities, in our 198 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: own states in order to keep people safe. And don't 199 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: don't people don't our citizens have the right to be 200 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: able to leave their homes, go to the grocery store, 201 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: go to church, go to a synagogue, go to a mosque, 202 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: go to school and be safe. So I wanted to 203 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: get your thoughts, Jonathan on this. This is not the 204 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: first time, this is not the first time that a 205 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: collection of mayors have come together to call on the Senate, 206 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: to call on the president to do something. So I 207 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts on their letter, on 208 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: this collection of leaders, and whether or not there will 209 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: be anything other than thank you so much for writing 210 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: to us. Well, I think it's important right moral authority 211 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: of groups who are standing up against the kind of 212 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: insanity that we see. It's super important. I mean, it 213 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: reminds me also of doctors who have mobilized in a 214 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: campaign called this is My Lane, and victims families, the 215 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: people I study from mass shootings, they have mobilized also, 216 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: And so you know, the more the more people are 217 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: out there forming elitions that can not just write letters 218 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: but also form effective voting blocks and mobilized during elections 219 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: and things like that. Of course, that's all very important 220 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: and brave, and people are fighting upstream. I will say that, 221 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think the lesson of my research is 222 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: that the power for gun policy ultimately rests in judges, 223 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: and so liberal America has just been far too slow 224 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: to recognize that while we were out there doing marches 225 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: in the streets after mass shootings and all these important 226 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: great things, the other side was not making a ton 227 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: of noise. They were just putting in judges who were 228 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: bought and paid for by the NRA, And ultimately judges 229 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: are the ones who are going to be setting a 230 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of gun policy. I mean, we see this with 231 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, but it's true throughout entire our entire system, 232 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: and it just took liberals way too long to figure 233 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: this out. That's why this Georgia election is so important, 234 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: right because what does the Senate do, Among other things, 235 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: they appoint judges, And I think that gun reform, if 236 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: that there's power from mayors, from communities, from survivors, from doctors, 237 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: from everybody else, it gives the Senate the authority to 238 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: then seat judges who will uphold even the most basic, reasonable, 239 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: common sense gun policies. But without that, we've just let 240 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell have a kind of federalist society checklist of 241 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: judges who, I mean, some of these judges had never 242 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: heard a case. They're only criteria for being a judge 243 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: is that they get an a rating from the NRA, 244 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: and so we need to reverse that trend at the judiciary. 245 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: And so it's all cumulative, it's all summative. But I 246 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: would say that without that, without that judiciary piece, it 247 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: becomes a protest move as opposed to a power move. Yeah, 248 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: And that was my feeling in question was whether or 249 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: not this was just a collective action that was going 250 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: to be taken. But was anything going to come out 251 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: of it? Was there going to be any real response? Right? 252 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: Because I mean, I, Jonathan, you've been doing this work 253 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: longer than most and I don't know the question that 254 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: the mayors pose, what was what is it going to take? 255 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: How many more lives need to be lost, how many 256 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: more you know, funerals need to be attended to, how 257 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: many more people you know have to look across their 258 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: table and you know, and and lose family members. And 259 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't empathy. We always seek, Jonathan. I think that 260 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: in most of these battles to appeal to people's humanness, 261 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: to appeal to their heart to we talk about changing 262 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: hearts and minds, And what you've just you know, iterated, 263 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: is that this isn't a hearts and minds issue anymore, Right, like, 264 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: this is this is a legal issue. This is about 265 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: who is going to be sitting on that bench that 266 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: is going to make decisions that are about the betterment 267 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of this country, the safety of this country, and not 268 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: and not about who has a one hundred percent rating 269 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: with the n r A. Do you think then again, 270 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: that the messaging needs to shift in terms of what 271 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: we're asking for, because we keep saying, how will history 272 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: remember these people? How will the well what who cares? 273 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: They've rewrite history all the time. So I'm like, what 274 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: is what is the appeal and the push here? I 275 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: mean I do kind of laugh sometimes about how will 276 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: history remember these people? Because that implies people in the 277 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: future are going to be any more reasonable than people today, Right, 278 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, look at now compared to the past, 279 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Like you know, it's I think we have a pretty 280 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: good proof right now that history doesn't matter all that much. 281 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like who has the power to write 282 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: the history? And so I mean there's another case not 283 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: linked to guns right now, the imaginative gay people use 284 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: your business case that was in front of the Supreme 285 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: Court yesterday, which just shows the power of having a 286 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: radicalized judiciary. No, I'm not suggesting liberals radicalized the judiciary, 287 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: but I am, But I mean, I mean what radicalized 288 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: means just reeling it back from the madness that's happened 289 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: right now, which is just incredible. And so I would 290 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: just say, I would just say that, you know, we 291 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: have a lot of repair to do again. Again, that's 292 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: why having fifty one senators is going to be so 293 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: incredibly important because Mitch McConnell, well, you know, while everybody 294 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: else's blah blah blah, you know, he's, as we know, 295 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: been running the table on all these judiciary appointments for 296 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: so long, and Trump appointed many, you know, three important 297 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court judges. And so what we're seeing right now 298 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: is this really radical intertion of the Supreme Court and 299 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: moved to up end long had long held civil liberties 300 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: and rights. And so I just think that I just 301 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: think that getting this back to some kind of normal 302 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: middle ground, it's not it's about elections, but elections leading 303 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: to judges, I think it is going to be where 304 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: this is. And I'll tell you one thing about the 305 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: Supreme Court case yesterday that I've been thinking about. This 306 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: is the case of the Colorado woman who didn't even 307 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: have a web wedding business. But if she did, maybe 308 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: some gay people would have maybe wanted her to use 309 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: their services. Like it was totally a speculative case. There 310 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: was no there's no litigant, there's no grieved party here. 311 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: The case that she imagined never happened. She actually didn't 312 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: even have the business yet, and so she's just saying, 313 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I could be doing this with my business and gay 314 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: people could come to me, and I imagine, and so 315 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: she was, it's all speculation. And it's funny because I 316 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: see this with guns a lot too, that a lot 317 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: of gun policies. They'll they'll ask all these like Angela 318 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Stroud as a sociologist. She wrote this great book, Good 319 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Guys with Guns, and basically she went around Texas and 320 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: asked the guys, why do you why do you have 321 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: an air fifteen round your back and three pistols on 322 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: your waist, these white good guys with guns. And they 323 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: would say, well, a gang banger could come, or a 324 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: carjack or could come, or I could pull up to 325 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: the bodegas, somebody said, and mister baggy pants saggy pants 326 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: rapper could come and whatever, like all these really racist 327 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: racial stereotypes. And then she said, Man, I guess see 328 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: how you want a gun? Has that ever actually happened? 329 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: And in every case they were like, well no, but 330 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: it might. So it was all about this projection, this 331 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of speculation that minoritized or aggrieved or you know, 332 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: disadvantaged group might do something to me and take my 333 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: privilege or wealth. And that's what kind of spread this 334 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: fear of guns, you know. And we saw it even 335 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: in New York, like a black guy could push you 336 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: on the subway tracks and stuff like that. Well maybe 337 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: that happened one or two times, um, but it was 338 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: it's all this speculation that plays into implicit bias and stereotype. 339 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: And it's just funny because, like I saw the same 340 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: method being used in the Supreme Court case that this 341 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: woman really was not aggrieved in any way. There was 342 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: no case, no gay people that ever come to her business, 343 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: which she didn't even have yet, So she was just 344 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: speculating like, oh, maybe some gay people could come to 345 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: me and therefore whatever. It reminded me so much of 346 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: these gun cases, and it's just another example. I mean, 347 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: in a in a balanced judiciary, this stuff would not 348 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: be seeing the light of day. It's completely undemocrat right, 349 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: because there's no there's no place, there's no plate, like, 350 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: there's no case, like, there's no case like giraffes are 351 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: protected by the Endangered Specie to Act. But if a 352 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: giraffe wants to come take my college class, why don't 353 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: I start a lawsuit now, just in case a giraffe 354 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: comes to take my class. Like this is never going 355 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: to happen, and so it and like it's not like 356 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: this woman was going to have a lot of gay clients. 357 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't think if she ever did open her business. 358 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: And so we're just in we're in the we're in 359 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: the kind of right, we're in speculative law where people 360 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: are just sitting around in their free time. I mean, 361 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: I had a tweet yesterday that I said, in psychiatry, 362 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: when you imagine gay people are going to do things 363 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: to you, we call that projection. Right, it has actually 364 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: something to do with you, not with actually the world. 365 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: And so we're in the world of kind of speculative 366 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: judiciary activism right now, which is a pretty dangerous place 367 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: to be. And so again I just think it's all 368 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: the more important for guns for everything else. Guns are 369 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: part of this same agenda that we that we turn 370 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: this turn the ship around as quickly as we possibly can, 371 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: and that means rebalancing the judiciary and particularly serve in court. Jonathan. 372 00:24:54,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: If somebody is sitting around imagining nonsense right whe there, 373 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: it is the guys with six guns around their belt, 374 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: or this woman who's imagining all these gay people whose 375 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: money apparently she does not want because that makes sense, 376 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: and she doesn't even have that, she didn't even have. 377 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: She doesn't she doesn't even have the business. And gay 378 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: people are going to make better websites than her anyway. Intersect, 379 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: how do you not intersect? How do you inject reality? 380 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: Or do you not? No, that's the thing is like 381 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: there there are crackpot of pains all the time. It's 382 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: just more like are they validated? And the minute you 383 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: have judges who are validating these crackpot things, I mean, 384 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: that's the issue is we've had, you know, we got 385 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: three hundred years or crackpots in this country. But if 386 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: the question is are these minority positions or are these 387 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: mainstream positions? And having them validated by the Supreme Court 388 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: makes this kind of projected, implicit, biased nonsense into into 389 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: an acceptable mode of lawmaking and so again that's the 390 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: issue is I don't know, I just you know, you 391 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: it's funny because you and I've been talking about this 392 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: for like years now that the Democrats were not did 393 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: not do what the Republicans did, which is the minute 394 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: somebody won an election, come in with a slate of 395 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: like judges that are going to uphold your position. And 396 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: so I feel like it's it's kind of being figured 397 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: out now, but it's certainly taken a pretty extreme turn 398 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: of events to have that happen. You know, do you think, Jonathan, 399 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: that if the Supreme Court continues to rule in the 400 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: way that it's been ruling right with the Dabb's decision overturned, 401 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: we have mor v. Harper coming, we have you know, 402 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: voting rights case, that's the voting rights case. We have 403 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, affirmative action, we have all of these cases 404 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: are coming down the slate for the Supreme Court, which 405 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: is why the voting rights one is going to be 406 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: the biggest is the biggest one. Do you think that 407 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: Americans have it in them to do what the women 408 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: and the youth in Iran are doing, Like if everything 409 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: is taken away, which is the goal of the Republican Party, 410 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: is to delegitimize every bit of equity that has been 411 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: earned and fought for over the past six decades. If 412 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: those things are all overturned, ripped away, precedent no longer matters. 413 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court's completely weaponized. From your evaluation as a doctor, 414 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: do you think that we have the capacity to do 415 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: what the people in Iran are doing? I will say, 416 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: I mean our country is divided, right, but I mean, 417 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: look what happened, like Dobbs was the worst trauma people 418 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: could have imagined, and there were protests for quite a 419 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: long time, and really energize protests that we're on par 420 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: with any protests anywhere. But what's where the protests right now? Right? 421 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: And so the lesson of how the Conservatives got here 422 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: is that they had a fifty year campaign of starting 423 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: at local school boards and then local judge ships and whatever. 424 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: It was a fifty year campaign and they literally never 425 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: went home. And I would say that the anger, the passion, 426 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: the dedication are all very real. And look what's happening 427 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: with voting now in Georgia, like it's incredible. So I 428 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: hope we do, and I think we do. But I 429 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: would also say that the lesson of the conservative movement 430 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: is that it took them fifty years and in national 431 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: strategy and starting at the grassroots level and building up slowly. 432 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: And so I think the frustration for me with the 433 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: kind of the liberal position is it's kind of like, 434 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this thing right now. I wanted to 435 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: change right now, we need to expand the Supreme Court 436 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: right now, but not seeing the kind of long game, 437 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: and not that we have to rep kate the long game, 438 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: but the other side certainly got in their position with 439 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: with a long game. And so I think that's that's 440 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: really the message is beyond any immediate protests, I just 441 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: don't know if America is the kind of place where 442 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: those kind of protests can be sustained over time in 443 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: a way that they are in Iran, in a way 444 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: that I mean, the issue in Iran is like the 445 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: entire system was going to collapse. They had to make 446 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: some changes. We'll see what happened. But I don't know. 447 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Our country is so divided right now, I don't know 448 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: what what the what what the effect of these kind 449 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: of protests would be. But I would also say that 450 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: again it's it's not an immediate thing, unfortunately, which is 451 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: frustrating for a lot of people. Yeah, I mean, I 452 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: just think that if your rights are being taken away 453 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: one by one by one, at some point you have 454 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: to recognize that voting alone isn't going to be the answer. Right, 455 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: Like we're we just came through this hotly contested midterm election. 456 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: The red wave that was rejected to come never happened. 457 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: It was more of a drip if anything. And we're 458 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: still divided the Congresses. The houses within five seats, right, 459 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: the Senate is going to be within hopefully in two 460 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: within two seats. I just don't know about the sustained 461 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: power of the people. Yeah, And again it's it's just 462 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: that the problems we're facing are not going to get 463 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: changed by just protests, right. You need you need a 464 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: long strategy for judiciary power and other kinds of power. 465 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: So it's not just protests that we're facing. Yeah. Well, 466 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: as always, doctor Jonathan Metzo, we will come back to 467 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: you to pick this conversation up and see, you know 468 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: where the power of the people is going to lie. 469 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: What is going to be the spark, What is going 470 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: to be the sustainer in order to continue the fight 471 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: for justice. I mean a lot a lot, a lot 472 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: on the line in the Senate election. So that's one 473 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: very good start, you know, hopefully that it goes the 474 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: right way. So yeah, here's hoping. Appreciate you, Jonathan as always. 475 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke 476 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: a F as always, Power to the people and to 477 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: all the people power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.