1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: On paper, and as we talk here in June, Yeah, 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are among the most improved teams. Just 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: how improved and better? 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Yet? 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Where has the team improved? Got Paul Calvicy joining me 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Berg Gang to discuss just that, plus which first year 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: player is predicted to make the All Rookie team. It's 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode eight ninety five, and it starts now. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Budda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: Some more hurry magic. 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: Whow Here's Craigcriolo. 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: So I hesitate to add, but I will anyway because Paul, 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I know how your day began. So how are you 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: doing on this Monday here June twenty third. 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 4: You know, Craig, I don't need the attitude. I can 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: sense an attitude. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: My attitude. 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm legitimately concerned about your well being. 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, it is late June. 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: I figured I just create something out of nowhere, you know, 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: just concoct something salacious or sensational. You know, we got 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: to do something around here. It's late June, you know, 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: yeah it was. You know, there are tougher situations in 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: the world than your battery dying to start the week. 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: But I saw it coming over the weekend. In fact, 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: I anticipated to the degree that I actually got it. 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Went out there early Monday morning, thinking is this isn't 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: going to start on me or not? And of course 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 4: it didn't, and then that's set off an odyssey. But 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: I still made the ten am meeting. So by that, 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: by all accounts, that was a dub for years. Truly 37 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: started started a little bit of adversity, but we overcame. 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: At least it was at home and you weren't stuck 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of somewhere else or a parking lot 40 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: where it's one hundred and ten degrees out in the midday. 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Thank on, So at least you got lucky there. 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: By the way, a little shout out Paul pro tip 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 4: PSA here for any newcomer, especially coming from the Midwest. 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: Do you think you know losing batteries in Midwest winters? 45 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Nothing takes out your car battery like in Arizona summer. 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: I've gone through infinitely more batteries living my thirty years 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: in Arizona than I have anywhere else on this in 48 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: this fine country. So just a little pro tip for 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: you going forward. 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: I'll even add to that the five year warranty that 51 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: many batteries have when it comes to Arizona. If you 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: are approaching two years, you better be ready and on 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: your toes and figure out, all right, what's plan B, 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: because that's basically the lifespan of a battery car battery 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: in Arizona. 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: My wife's original vehicle would go through a battery per year. 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean you could set your watch it was right 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: around July fourth. You talk about fireworks, it was her bad. 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: Anyway. 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: Who's going to be the Who's going to be the 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: jump starter? 62 00:02:59,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: The jumper? 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: K if you will Craig for this Cardinals team? How 64 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: about that for a segue. That's that's that's why you 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: are poly professional. Because we do know this, and I 66 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: do think we'll get some more information later on this week, 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: but we do know that players report for training camp 68 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: July twenty second, both veterans and rookies. First practice will 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: be the next day. I think we'll get the complete 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: training camp schedule this week at least that's. 71 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: My hope, my belief. But that is a very interesting question, Paul, 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: as far as I mean, the obvious one is, I mean, 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: do you have to do you have to say Kyler Murray? 74 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, or do we take him out of the equation, 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: because that's just too easy. If you don't have a quarterback, 76 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: your engine's not starting. Period, You're not getting out of 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the garage if you don't have a quarterback. 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: As we keep up with this metaphor. 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: But I mean K one is number one, and you 80 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: know now that you say that, I would have a 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 4: hard time arguing against that. But honestly, I would start 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: with the other two team captains that are known right now. 83 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: I would start with Buddha Baker on the defensive side 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: and James Conner on the offensive side as the jumper cables, 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: if you will, bringing life, bringing energy, jolting everyone into 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: you know, great performances on either side of the ball. Now, 87 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 4: those guys are known, including Kyler, So what about newcomers. 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: Could Josh Sweat be that guy? Could a young guy 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: like Rabbit seek and destroy and you know, flying around 90 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: not unlike Buddha Baker. Could he be that guy? Could 91 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: have Marvin Harrison Junior what he did against the Rams 92 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 4: in Week two? I mean that set that whole building 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: a blaze, did it not? Marvin Harrison Junior evoking the 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: echoes Hilarry Fitzgerald at State Farm Stadium. If he's able 95 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: to put some of those games together like he did 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: against the Rams, and you have a handful of those 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 4: this year, let me tell you that will definitely ignite 98 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: the home building. 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up Marvin because of the weekend. 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: I saw this article, and I know Paul you love lists, 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. No one enjoys a good list more than 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Paul Calvis. 103 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: Let me tell you there's one that just dropped an 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: NFL dot Com craig and it's the five teams that 105 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: won the off season. Apparently they need to borrow a 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: Rex Ryan Award in the hardware. The Cardinals are not 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: on this list. No, how can you have five teams 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: that won the off season and the Cardinals are not 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: on the list. And I know Washington thinks they won 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: the off season. But Laramie Tunsel, your new left tackle 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: set like a career high ind pressures allowed last year 112 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: over fifty pressures allowed. So there's a reason why a 113 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: team was willing to get rid of their supposed franchise 114 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: left tackle, and that's because, guess what, he's not nearly 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: what he used to be. So I'm not buying Washington, 116 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 4: especially ahead of a team like the Cardinals in winning 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: the off season. 118 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: Did not win or was not on that list. But 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: there was another list on NFL dot com. Right, of course, 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: there was the seven teams who have improved the most 121 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: this offseason, and the Cardinals did make that list, and 122 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: they sided all the defensive improvements, which we can talk about. 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: But I'm looking going back to your comments about Marvin 124 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior. Yes, this defense is going to make the 125 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals better, at least as we speak here in 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: mid June. Everything looks great on paper. The Cardinals defense 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: should be vastly improved based on the new additions, whether 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: free agency or in the draft. But if this team 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: really wants to take that step forward, which is the 130 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: postseason ten wins, eleven wins, it's the offense that has 131 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: got to carry this team, at least. 132 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: In my opinion. You can agree to disagree. 133 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: Paul but if I'm looking at players on offense, forget 134 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: the big names. I'm looking at three second year players. Okay, 135 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, which is and obvious. I don't know 136 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: if there's been a player more talked about this offseason 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: than MHJ, whether or how he looks or what we 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: all hope he looks like on the football field as 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: far as stats and production. 140 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: By the way, if I can disagree with you, I 141 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 4: most definitely will for the record, go ahead, appreciate that. 142 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the other two players, Trey Benson, how much more 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: involved is he in the offense? What does that mean 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: for James Connor? Keeping him healthy and fresher for a 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: game for a season. And then I know you'll agree 146 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: with this last second year player because you've been talking 147 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: about him a lot this offseason. 148 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: That's Isaiah Adams. 149 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: Is he your starting right guard? And if he is 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: for an entire season, and that's the young piece on 151 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: that offensive line. 152 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: Year two. 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: You drafted these players for a reason, whether in the 154 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: first round or on Day two. Can those three, specifically Marvin, 155 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Trey and Isaiah help the offense take that next step 156 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: forward and ultimately improve the Arizona Cardinals from eight wins 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: to a playoff team. 158 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: It's hard to argue with that. Let me just start 159 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: right there. However, I'll say this, I'll break those into 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: two different categories. Of those three, the player I'm most 161 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: confident in breaking out in year two is actually Trey Benson. 162 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: But the two players you need to break through in 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: year two are Isaiah Adams and Marvin Harrison Junior. In 164 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: that order, you need to slidify the interior of the 165 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: offensive line. There's nothing more vital. In fact, the Cardinals 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: as we speak have an open roster spot. 167 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Correct. 168 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: Correct If if some time between now and the start 169 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 4: of camp there was a veteran offensive guard who was signed, 170 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: and I have no idea who's still out there and 171 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 4: who's worthwhile and what the price tag might be, I 172 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: would not be shocked If there is one addition to 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: this roster. 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: I would think that would be the spot. 175 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 4: We'll see, maybe a veteran receiver. But in terms of 176 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: the need, the importance, in terms of Jonathan Gannon and MANIASA. 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 4: Fords sitting in a right camp going home, please please develop, 178 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: please be the answer to this question, I would start 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: with Isaiah Adams, Marvin Rison two and then Trey Benson three, 180 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: just because you already have James Connor. However, if you're 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: to believe that Trey Benson put on seven pounds and 182 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: he's way more explosive, that he's car rushing a lot 183 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 4: of these analytics that track your performance, in your conditioning 184 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 4: and everything else that goes into winning an offseason as 185 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 4: a player, and based on his change in attitude, speaking 186 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 4: of attitude, when he actually stuck his face in the 187 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: fan and stoked it north south in those last two 188 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 4: or three games before he lost the rest of his 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: year to that ankle injury. And he admits when we 190 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: asked him about, hey, did James Connor his running style 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: rub off on you a little bit? And he gives 192 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: an absolute and definitive yes. To take his speed and 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: his size and his strength and now his conditioning add 194 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: some of the confidence that he said he admits he 195 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: lacked at this time a year ago. He said he 196 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: was quote anger, little panicky trade Benson because he'd only 197 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: played really two years of college football and now he's 198 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: up with the big boys and wondering if he belonged. 199 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: He knows he belongs now. And so with that improved confidence, 200 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: I Honestly, if you made me choose one, then I 201 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: think is really in store to bust out and put 202 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: up just great numbers and a performance. I probably start 203 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: with Trey Benson. 204 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: And again I like what you said, the want versus 205 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: the need. You want Trey Benson, you believe maybe you 206 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: have all those three the most confident in yet in 207 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: order for this offense to be what we all think 208 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the capability is. 209 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: Well, you need that. 210 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: Number one wide receiver, but more importantly, maybe you need 211 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: that offensive line the interior, keep Leonard Williams out of 212 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: the backfield. And we know this is a run first, 213 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: run second offense. They're not gonna go away from that 214 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: no matter who they have at wide receiver. So who's 215 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: opening up those rushing lanes? Who's protecting Kyler Murray back there? 216 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: And that's the big question mark atleast that I have 217 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: when you talk about this offense going into twenty twenty five? 218 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: Is all right? 219 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Isaiah Adams played significant reps towards the end of 220 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: last season. Did the coaching staff see enough? And at 221 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: least right now I think they did because you didn't 222 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: really bring anyone in outside of a Royce Newman. That again, 223 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: not a big household name. Are you okay right now? 224 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: And then you see when the pads come on and 225 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: there's more friction, as Jonathan Gannon talked about before everyone 226 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: broke for the summer, and then all right, yeah, Isaiah 227 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: can't handle a Kalais Campbell. He can handle a Josh 228 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: schweedt or Dalvin Tomlinson coming at him. We're good at 229 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: right guard. 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: And don't think for a minute that one of the 231 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: reasons there's going to be more friction at this year's 232 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: Cardinals camp is because they need to find out if 233 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 4: Isaiah Adams can handle it. They need to find out 234 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: who exactly is the seven defensive lineman out of eight 235 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: that are sticking. If you're indeed cutting one, you need 236 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: to find out who can handle that physicality. You need 237 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: to find out and figure out who's the best football 238 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: player on your fifty three. This time a year ago, 239 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: this time two years ago, you pretty much knew at 240 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 4: least fifty of the fifty three and there were maybe 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: three spots up for grabs. 242 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: Now not so easy. 243 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 4: So if you're gonna make some really significant roster moves 244 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 4: come late August, you better know and guess what preseason 245 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: games a are risky enough. You don't want to put 246 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: veterans in there, be they'll always give you a true 247 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 4: story because you're getting vanilla schemes and you're going against 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 4: backups to start with. So if you really want to 249 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: get a sense of what you have on your own roster, 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 4: you better let it rip in camp and you better 251 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: go good on good and see you couldn't compete. You know, 252 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: the one player we're probably leaving off your list right 253 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: there would be Max Melton. And I thought Max Melton 254 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: in the last three games or so did take a jump. 255 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's gonna be a little hard to tell if 256 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: you're not getting targeted a lot as a corner and 257 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: I'll leave a lot of that up to the coaches, 258 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: But I do hear good things about Max Melton, and 259 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: guess what, he's gonna be really motivated. Considering they went 260 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: after Will Johnson and Denzel Burke. There's gonna be a 261 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: lot of competition in that room coming into camp, and 262 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: Max Melton did not nail down a starting spot going forward. 263 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: It's wide open right now. I mean who's cornerback one, 264 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 4: who's cornerback two. That's to be decided. And I would 265 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: say you know, if if two months from out, Craig 266 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: we had this discussion again and Max Melton should have 267 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: been included. 268 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised by that either. 269 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Now based off how he's listed on the roster. CB 270 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: one is Garrett Williams although you're a slot corner and 271 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't I don't put in I've said this repeatedly 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover too when we have this cornerback discussion. 273 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't include Garrett Williams. 274 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: He's going to be on the field, we know that, 275 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: but we're talking about the outside corner and until we 276 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: until we see Garrett play outside, which he can. Then 277 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: the discussion, to your point, is all right, who's CB 278 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: one and going into camp? Is it Max going into 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: year two? Is it Will Johnson going into year one? 280 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: Because the coaches believe they've got a first round talents 281 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: in the second round and whatever concerns people on the 282 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: outside had about well, there are no concerns within this 283 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: building talking about the Cardinals facility about Will Johnson. Is 284 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: he CB one with Max Mountain on the other side, 285 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Starling Thomas can. 286 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Fight for reps? 287 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, okay, what do you do 288 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: as far as a number game, a numbers game at 289 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: that position. 290 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: And you're right, we should clarify when I talk about 291 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: CB one, CB two, I already have Garrett Williams in 292 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: the class of a Buddha Baker. Yes, meaning he's an 293 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 4: absolute that's that's rock solid. You put that name down 294 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: in ink. So okay, what are the outside corners? And yes, 295 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: Starling Thomas said right in this student within the last month, 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 4: and you could just see how much more confident he 297 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: is as a player, how he knows he belongs, how 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: he knows the scheme cold. And let's not forget how 299 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: critical that is. Teams that are doing anything and everything 300 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: they can on offense to try and confuse a defense, 301 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: and all you need is one mental breakdown and a 302 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: receiver gets free, and that can be the difference in 303 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: the game. So the coaches have to really trust every 304 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: single corner because there are a lot more adjustments. What 305 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon say at one point this offseason, he didn't 306 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: used to consider corner a thinking man's position because you say, okay, 307 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: just go out on an island and check that guy. 308 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: That's not how teams play anymore. That's not how the 309 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 4: Cardinals play Will Johnson is considered a quote perfect scheme 310 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: fit something else, Jonathan Gann has said multiple times because 311 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: of the manner in which the Cardinals run their defense. 312 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: And guess what Drew Stanton said in here not too 313 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: long ago, and said Wink Martindale, former NFL longtime defensive 314 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: coordinator in the league, who is Michigan's defensive coordinator, runs 315 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 4: a really complex, advanced system. And if Will Johnson can 316 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: master that in a year, he can certainly come in 317 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: and do the same without having to be a student anymore. 318 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: He's a full time football player. 319 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: And it's why again going back to lists NFL dot 320 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: Com and it's all Rookie team prediction, they have Will 321 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Johnson making the All Rookie team based off of what 322 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 1: they wrote projects as a day one starter in Arizona 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: and his instinctive ball howking feels like a perfect fits 324 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: in the Cardinals' zone heavy defense. Again, that's right off 325 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the page of NFL dot Com. But why was Will 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Johnson targeted in the second round? And yes, Jonathan Gannon 327 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: has said repeatedly we want him. He fits everything we 328 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: want to do. And you hear ball hocking and Paul, 329 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: you and I have been around long enough, and the 330 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: first name that pops into my head when I hear 331 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: that say it Tyron Matthew. Yes, that's exactly what I 332 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: thought as well. And we don't say that lightly, and 333 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: you shouldn't say that lightning, because there have been few 334 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: better in Cardinal's history, using their instincts and playing with 335 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: feel and being a guy who ran a four or 336 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: five but played like he ran a four to three 337 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: like Tyron Matthew, especially a young honey Badger who when 338 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: he came onto the scene right away, all the veterans knew, oh, 339 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: this kid can play, this kid will play, this kid 340 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: will have an impact, and he most definitely did so. Now, 341 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: if you have someone with those sort of instincts, except 342 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: in this case, he's nearly six' to two and he 343 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: has all that, athleticism he has all the ball, skills 344 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: and by the, Way Tyron matthew had fantastic ball. Skills 345 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: and now you improved the pass rush because you can't 346 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: be a ball hawking corner unless you have what a 347 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: quarterback who's under, pressure a quarterback who's, affected a quarterback 348 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: who's getting hit and harassed and sped up and all 349 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden that ball comes out when the quarterback 350 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily want it to come. Out and that's where 351 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: the interceptions. Happened like we were doing predictions on one 352 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: of The cardinals undergrounds AND i, SAID i don't know, 353 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: much BUT i know this much IF i have to 354 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: make a. Prediction whatever The cardinals interception total was last, 355 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: year AND i honestly don't, know double. It based on 356 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: the improved pass, rush based on the improved cornerback, PLAY 357 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: i think you're gonna get this. 358 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: Year but just the pass rush, ALONE i think we'll 359 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: put balls in. Jeopardy guys Like Buddha, Baker Will, Johnson 360 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 4: Max melton and. COMPANY i think they'll get into those passing. 361 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: Lanes they'll Be and if you're only rushing for and 362 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: you have more guys who can take away some of 363 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: the deep, responsibilities then you have more guys underneath who 364 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: can take chances Like Tyron matthew was able to do, 365 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 4: right he Had Rashad johnson And Patrick. Peaz he's one on, 366 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: one So Tyron matthew was onlocked to be able to 367 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 4: take a lot of those. CHANCES i would not be 368 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: shocked If Nick ross Used Will johnson in a similar. 369 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: Manner the number is, nine by the, way nine nine 370 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: interceptions last. SEASON i feel good about my, prediction which 371 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: is which was bottom third in the. League there you, 372 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: go so again not have enough hands on. Footballs and 373 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: the secondary, nine by the way is also the number 374 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: of interceptions That Well johnson had in his career At. 375 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: Michigan and the stat that blows me away is he 376 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: had more pick sixes than touchdowns. Allowed so that Was 377 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: that's someone who always seemed to be around the football 378 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: within That michigan. Defense again not, comparing just making everyone 379 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: aware That Tyron, matthew even year, one always seemed to 380 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: be around the, football even though he wasn't the, strongest the, 381 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: biggest the, fastest or the. 382 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: Quickest but. 383 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Instincts do you know where you're supposed to, be and 384 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: all of a sudden that gives you a split, second 385 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: a half, step you're there quicker as opposed to someone 386 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: who maybe is, taller, bigger, stronger, faster but they're thinking 387 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more and all of a sudden before 388 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: they make a. 389 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: Move AM i supposed to be? 390 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: There tyron didn't have to do. That we have to 391 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: wait and see If will's at that. Point but again 392 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: everything we're. Hearing it's hard not to make that. 393 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: Comparison and, look there have. 394 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: Been rookies in the last couple of, years to the 395 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: moment they were, drafted they were, Starters Paris johnson, Junior 396 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: Marvin harrison. JUNIOR i saw there's one of these, lists you, 397 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: know some of these breakout. Players you Decided Will, Johnson, 398 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: Well Derek harmon is on that, list number twenty one 399 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: pick overall On oregon went to The Pittsburgh, Steelers AND 400 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: i saw within that article the d line coach when 401 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: he met the media, Said Derek harmon is a starting 402 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: defensive tackle on This steelers defensive. Front you can write that. 403 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: Down that was his. 404 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: Quote SO i Think Will johnson will be given every 405 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: single opportunity to win a starting. Job Despite Max, melton 406 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: despite Starling Thomas Denzel, BURKE i think will make some 407 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: noise in. Camp it's gonna be a really tough decision 408 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: For Mantias sport And Jonathan. Gannon but, again you combine 409 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 4: the elevated corner play with a much improved defensive front 410 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: and pass, rush and, YEAH i think you're gonna See 411 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 4: you're gonna see a lot more football is going the other. 412 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: Way you'll see a lot more pass. Deflections and that's 413 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: what you. Want that's What Nick ross And Jonathan gannon. 414 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: Want they want to be a disruptive. Defense and don't 415 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 4: you give number zero TO cb? ONE i, MEAN i 416 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 4: don't know the. Backstory it was asked To will and 417 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: he didn't want to get into. Details he did appreciate 418 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: having single digit, number but having whether you want to 419 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 4: say agent zero or it means zero, catches zero receiving 420 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: yards or not on my, why whatever it is that 421 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: comes with a spotlight and one that you have to 422 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: be ready for and. Accepting and he was At michigan 423 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: because he wore number two out of respect For Charles. 424 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: Woodson so here's someone who's got that quiet confidence already 425 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: when he's on the football. 426 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: Field that's. JUICY i like. 427 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: It it's, sensational, Lacious it checks every single. Box, Craig 428 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: so are you, saying AND i put it to, you 429 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 4: are you SAYING cb one Is Will johnson's job to? 430 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: LOSE i don't know job to. 431 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Lose, okay here we, go because and this is not 432 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: what we have not seen this but position, drills how 433 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: they line up wide receiver. Drills we were all paying 434 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: attention last offseason who was number one in? Line because 435 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: it was Always Larry fitzgerald number one in. Line last, Offseason, hey, 436 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Look marvin's first in. Line so those cornerback, drills who's 437 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: first in, line because that will tell you who IS 438 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: cb one before either one of us tells. Anyone BUT 439 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: i do think did we actually track that this? 440 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: Year you know? What now THAT i think about, IT 441 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: i don't. Know dang We why DIDN'T i look at 442 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: that more? 443 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Close corners were, okay, well we had the defensive lineman 444 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: right in front of, us which was, wonderful but corners 445 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: were on the other side of the, field and the 446 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: way they were broken, up it Didn't it. 447 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: Can be hard to, see just you, know in our 448 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: own defense, listeners it can be hard to see you 449 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: when you're Like kalais And Dalvin tomlinson And Big Darius. 450 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: Robinson can you guys kind of move to the. LEFT 451 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 4: i can't see anything beyond, you. Guys but, okay If 452 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: Will johnson's first in, line you need. Too SO i 453 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: do think amongst the Three, Will max And, starr you've 454 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: got three and, out who who gets that starting? Nod and, 455 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 4: then more, importantly how many snaps are you getting and 456 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: we'll all go through That monday. Morning you get that. 457 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: Snapcount are you on the field as a corner ninety 458 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: percent of the time seventy five percent of the time 459 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: the coaches trust you that much to where you're not 460 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: leaving the field Like buddha Or Jalen. Thompson that's gonna 461 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 4: be interesting to figure. Out and by the, Way i'm 462 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: looking at last year's breakdown of The week one, roster 463 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: there were six corners on the roster going Into week 464 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: one twenty twenty, four and there were four. SAFETIES i 465 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 4: have a hard time believing your breaking camp was six 466 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: corners considering how you fortify the defensive. Front, MAYBE i, 467 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: mean you certainly Have denzel burg beyond the three you just, 468 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 4: well the four you, NAMED i, mean Because Garrett williams 469 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 4: is a, default then you Have Will, Johnson, Starling Thomas Max. 470 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 4: Melton beyond That Denzel, BURKE i, Mean cardinals consider him 471 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: a steal in round. Five and then after, THAT i 472 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: tell you it was hard not you talk about watching mini. 473 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: CAMP mi kept going To Elijah, jones number twenty, eight 474 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: just because we haven't seen much of. Him, YEAH i 475 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: hadn't seen. Him there's a reason why they took him 476 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: in round three year. Ago he's highly experienced out Of Boston, 477 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: college played a lot of college, football got a lot of, 478 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 4: starts got his hands on a lot of. Footballs he's 479 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: nearly six to. Two he moves really. Well he ran 480 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: a four to. Four he has really good ball. Skills he's. 481 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: Mature so if you're looking for someone to come out 482 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: of nowhere and actually make a little bit of noise 483 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: In cardinals, CAMP i would say it could Be Elijah 484 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: jones and Or Denzel. 485 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: Burke and then Does Kee Trell clark make a Move 486 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: Jaden davis another late round. Draft, Hi you've got a 487 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: veteran In Darren hall who does great things on special, 488 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: teams and that becomes, where, Hey jeff talking About Jeff, 489 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: rogers who is excelling on all those. 490 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: Phases because they. 491 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: Might not have top four cornerback, status but if you've 492 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: got top two status on special, teams now all of a, 493 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: sudden you've got a jersey on game day and become 494 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: more valuable than say that fourth or fifth. 495 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: Corner And i'm guessing based on what they've seen so. 496 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 4: Far Keaton, crawford this seventh rounder on A nevada formerly 497 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: Of texas' first four. YEARS i, mean he's ALREADY i, 498 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: think made a big positive impression on his special teams. 499 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: COACH i, mean there's a reason why they targeted him 500 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 4: in round. Seven and so there's a guy when you 501 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: talk about keeping four, safeties you know he look it's. 502 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: This this roster is more loaded than it's been the 503 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 4: last two years. Combined when it comes to roster competition 504 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: in the fight for fifty, three it's going to be really. 505 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: Intriguing And, craig the few People i've talked to about 506 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: the last couple of days of mini camp where The 507 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: cardinals went won eleven on. Eleven the defense balled, out, 508 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 4: defense showed. Up, defense let the offense know they weren't 509 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: the same defense from the last two. Years they were, 510 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 4: balling they were, chirping and so not only is it 511 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: going to be competitive to get yourself a spot in 512 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: the final fifty, three it's going to be competitive eleven 513 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 4: on eleven offense against defense Throughout cardinals. 514 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: Camp and it's that defense why people are pointing to 515 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: The cardinals as one of those most improved teams in 516 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: the offseason because of the amount of bodies and financial 517 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: resources and even draft capital that went on that side 518 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: of the. Ball when you're talking About Josh, Sweat Dalvin, 519 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Tomlinson Kalais, Campbell Walter, nolan, Third Will, Johnson Cody, simon 520 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: not to Mention Jordan. Birch so there's a reason why 521 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: people are noticing The cardinals specifically about that. Defense by the, 522 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: way the the just so you since we finished off 523 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: the tea's, Here, paul these six other teams AT nfl 524 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: dot com listed is most? Improved great for the teams 525 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: you can go? Nowhere butt up The raiders And patriots 526 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: for win teams a year. Ago The bears And jets 527 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: they won five games last, year SO i, mean are you? 528 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: Really are you? 529 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: Really there's a lot of work to be done, there 530 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: so anything is an, improvement. 531 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: Right The bears And jets were so. Disfunctional just getting 532 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 4: some competent leadership and management elevates them so they're. Automatically 533 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 4: and then when The patriots came to town last, YEAR 534 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: i mean they Had Christian gonzales And Drake may's promising 535 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: and a lot of. NOTHING i mean that that roster 536 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: was so bereft of any talent it was borderline. Shocking 537 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: and then The, raiders you never quite sure what to, 538 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: think but they do Have Geno, smith a lot of 539 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: respect for What Geno smith did against The cardinals in 540 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 4: his three. Years and then you Know Pete carroll more 541 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 4: motivated than. Ever there's coach double rainbow bringing it in the. 542 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: Desert we'll see them in the. Preseason so, okay all, 543 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: right you Know i'll buy those those entrants right. There of, 544 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: course then if you believe everyone In San, francisco right 545 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: in The Bay, area they like to think The niners 546 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 4: are on the, rebound so based on last year's last 547 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 4: place finish and this year's last play, schedule and you, 548 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: know apparently they're just shrugging off the loss Of Drake 549 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: greenlawn To HELENOAH. Hafannga and you know That jankee offensive 550 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: line other Than Trent. Williams you KNOW cmc is. BACK 551 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 4: i guess all stay. Healthy, yeah all is, GOOD i, 552 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: Guess BUT i, mean what E zach here is your 553 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: receiver crew look? Like So i'm really, curious speaking of 554 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: the forty nine, Ers George kittle behind, you the tight 555 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 4: end you is happening early this. Week So George, kittle 556 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: and by the, way do you see the quote From 557 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: George kittle last week In niners mini camp where he 558 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: said About Robert, salah who's their defensive, coordinator said the 559 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: violence is. Back so now they're using the word violence 560 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: with the forty nine ers and then The Robert salad. 561 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: Defense so because they were a disaster last year and 562 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 4: a lot of categories including stop in the run the 563 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 4: forty nine. Ers so we'll, see we'll see what it's all. 564 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: About we know THE Nfc west it's gonna be as 565 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 4: competitive as. 566 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Ever Tight End university they posted a class picture or 567 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: like a yearbook photo group of all the Tight ends 568 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: that have been. Invited, Yes trey is, there but as 569 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Is Tip ryman And Elijah higgins. 570 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: Invited as we see now Tip, ryman let's talk About 571 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: Tip ryman for a. MINUTE i don't know how many 572 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: targets he got last year and how many official catches 573 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: he got last. YEAR i don't mean to put you 574 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: on the, spot but you know there's room for improvement 575 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: in that. 576 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: CATEGORY i get. 577 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: It he's basically at his size six five two, eighty you, 578 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: know ridiculous in terms of his you, know strength and 579 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: ability to. Block he's a block first tight. End but 580 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: he can catch the, ball he can. Move he had 581 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: a really good At letticism score coming out Of. Illinois 582 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: here's a guy if you can at least get him 583 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: a couple dozen catches this year to keep a defense. 584 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: Honest and you know What i've been saying now for 585 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: almost a year IS i don't Want if there's ever 586 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: such a thing as a suggestion box outside the office 587 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 4: Of Drew, Petsing i'm gonna put that little slip of 588 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 4: paper in, there and it's gonna be at least one 589 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: tight end screen every game To Tip, ryman and the 590 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: name of the play is gonna be who wants? Them 591 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 4: because here it comes six catches for thirty seven yards 592 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: to your, Point, yet can those numbers? INCREASE i don't 593 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 4: even know if you need them to. INCREASE i didn't 594 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: include him on the list of second year players, because, 595 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 4: yeah he might not have shown up in the stat, 596 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 4: sheet but he was on the field a good amount 597 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: of time because you're playing with two and three tight, 598 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: ends and oftentimes it Was tip as your second tight 599 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: end because he's a better blocker Than elijah is or 600 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: anyone else in that, room Including. Trey WOULD i would 601 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: Put Tip ryman's blocking ahead Of trey, McBride and that's 602 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: something That trey is working. On but there was a 603 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: reason why you invested a third round, pick and Tip 604 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: riman might not have made sense when you look at 605 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: why you draft in a tight. End but within this 606 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: offensive scheme What Drew petsen wants to, do it's a no. 607 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 4: Brainer and it doesn't matter where you're, selected are you 608 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: going to be? Used and he tip was used extensively 609 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: last season and as often as The cardinals used multiple 610 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: tight end formations in personnel groups twelve and thirteen. Personnel 611 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: When Tip ryman And trey McBride execute their, block look 612 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: out and the most prime example of that last season 613 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 4: Was kyler's fifty yard touchdown run at the forty nine 614 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: ers second play from scrimmage for The. Cardinals the key 615 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: to that Play Tip ryman And trey McBride executed flawless, 616 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: blocks sealed their guy And kyler had an open lane 617 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: fifty yards worth finger up as he got to the second. 618 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Level and then There's. 619 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 4: Elijah higgins who look he has slowly but surely improved his, 620 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: game and and Us Ben, steel the tight ends, coach 621 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: he has the will to stick his face in that 622 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: fan former receiver At. 623 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Stanford i'm surprised you praising a kid From. 624 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: Stanford at least now you know he's he's got his 625 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: hand in the, dirt he's getting, dirty you, know none of, 626 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: this you, know pretty boy glamour stuff like you would 627 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: typically get out Of stanford. 628 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: Football no. 629 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 4: Easy he's in, there he's in the trenches and he 630 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 4: just keeps getting bigger and stronger and transforming from what 631 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: was once a wide receiver body just two and a 632 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: half years. 633 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: Ago and so and. 634 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: Look we've seen him make some really nice catches and 635 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: some really impressive runs after. Catch so that's one area 636 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: Where i'm, like, hmm if they have to save a, 637 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: spot do they end up with only three tight ends 638 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: on the final fifty three as opposed to a year 639 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: ago when they had. 640 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Four, well the fourth Was Travis vocalec and he was 641 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: inactive most every single week UNTIL i think the last 642 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: part of the regular. Season but that's where you keep 643 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: because you don't want to be caught if there's an. 644 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Injury and at tight end there were no injuries ever 645 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: maintained their health and then you just it's like break 646 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: glass in case of an. Emergency there was no emergency 647 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: at tight, end but you want to make sure you 648 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: have A PLAN b if you need A PLAN, b 649 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: AND i Think travis was That PLAN b in the 650 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: tight end. Room it's just can he can he do 651 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: anything this offseason to not be A PLAN b but 652 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: actually have a uniform on game. 653 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 4: Day you, know the, guy the Former cardinal actually had 654 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: a nice finish to last. Season he now plays for The. 655 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: Browns Blake. Whitehart, yes and he actually had some. Money 656 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: catches for The browns and actually. 657 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Did a really nice. 658 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: Job so that's, see that's gonna start happening with more 659 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: frequency as The cardinals keep improving the talent level on 660 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: this team and everyone. Agrees last, year you, know the 661 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: talent level in the tight end room was stellar and 662 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: as a result of, that they had to part ways 663 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: With Blake. 664 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: Whiteheart, well he catches on with The. 665 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: Browns he, developed he was a young guy and really 666 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: he was a blocking tight end And Wake forest never 667 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: really got many targets or. Receptions but you know that's gonna. 668 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: Happen and so with that in, MIND i am curious 669 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 4: if they get a week or two into. Camp obviously 670 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 4: you always monitor the thirty one other. Teams if someone 671 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: suffers an injury at a position group where The cardinals are, 672 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: loaded you, know does money get on that? Phone and 673 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: instead of just LETTING, hnd letting guys hit the open 674 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 4: market come Late, august maybe you're maybe you're more proactive 675 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 4: earlier in the month and you're more willing to trade 676 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 4: a guy just you, know you're dealing from from a 677 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 4: position of. Strength and then you start stockpiling some picks 678 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: if nothing, else. 679 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: Especially if it's a sixth round or a seventh round 680 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: or a conditional to where you depending on how many 681 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: games played or snaps, played that pick can move into 682 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: perhaps maybe the fifth. Round because you're, right if you 683 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: have a vast if you have a, surplus, yeah you might, 684 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: release you. Might you might have a team out there 685 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: that they're gonna release however many, Players but where are 686 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: you on that pecking order as far as waiver Claim 687 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: and if all of a, sudden like team like The 688 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City chiefs Or Philadelphia eagles way down that, list 689 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: you pick up the phone and, say, hey we'll give 690 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: you a conditional six for said. Player, okay you're giving 691 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: me something for someone that we just don't have any 692 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: room for love to keep. Them we just can't because 693 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: we're limited to fifty three and there's no way he's 694 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: going to slide through waivers to get him back on 695 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: our practice. Squads so, yeah YOU i do think you might. 696 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: Have now that's, curious like what's the over under on 697 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: potential Late august Early september trades to. 698 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: Figure out that. 699 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Roster but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a 700 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: couple like there were a couple of years ago When 701 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah simmons was Delt Josh jones was dealt. 702 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 2: That Cam thomas last. 703 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: Year if there's no room then, okay well it's not 704 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: that we made a mistake by bringing that player, in 705 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: but we don't have the. Room so how do we 706 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: benefit and giving that player an opportunity? 707 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 4: Elsewhere so for, example let's say you get a sixth 708 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 4: or a seventh rounder in, return like you did For 709 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 4: Cam thomas a year. Ago well guess what that turned 710 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 4: Into Hayden connor in the sixth. Round that turned Into 711 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: Keaton crawford in the seventh. Round so these are things 712 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 4: THAT nfl draft rooms AND nfl general, managers they cover 713 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: it and they value that because you can take a 714 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 4: flyer on a guy and you, know a free. Pick, 715 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 4: hey we'll take it as opposed to letting someone just 716 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 4: sign the line that has dotted with another. Team SO 717 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: i am, curious AND i do, THINK mani instead of just, 718 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 4: okay waiting for cut day to roll, around which this 719 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: year is going to Be august twenty, six it's A, tuesday, 720 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: INSTEAD i wonder if he starts, identifying for, Example Ben, 721 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: stilly who was let go earlier this. OFFSEASON i, mean 722 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 4: there was no chance he was going to crack that 723 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 4: d line room come the final, cut and so you 724 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 4: know what you want to. Do the guy, right and 725 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: he's been a great cardinal for a couple of years 726 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 4: and he's given you everything he popped could and he 727 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: was well respecting the locker. Room but he has a 728 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 4: legitimate chance to catch on another team and Forge NIC's. 729 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 4: Career so you let him go earlier in the process 730 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: and see if you can find a. 731 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Home and there could be a couple of players in 732 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: that defensive line room depending on how things go between 733 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: now and cut down, day as far as if everyone stays, 734 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 1: healthy because that's another loaded room and you're not keeping, 735 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: everyone and who's to say you'll be able to slide 736 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: someone to your practice, squad and, again can you get 737 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: something for someone that you were you had no plans 738 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: for based off a fifty three man, roster. 739 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: And you know what it might. 740 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: Be yet another reason Why Jonathan gannon is going with 741 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 4: quote more friction this year in camp because you have 742 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: more depth from which to do it, Now as he, 743 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 4: said we're going to do it in a safe. Way 744 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: in no way are we going to risk further. Injury 745 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 4: but injuries can. Happen injuries can especially happen when you're 746 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 4: going full, speed full contact. Football but now it's not 747 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 4: nearly knock on wood as devastatingism might have been last 748 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: year or the year before when your depth chart was 749 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: so much. Thinner now you do have the ability at 750 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: least if you want to go a little heavier in 751 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: practice and you're on a ramp of the, physicality guess, 752 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 4: what you have the numbers in the depth to be 753 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 4: able to do. 754 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: That from our, perspective And i'll speak for, You, PAUL 755 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: i certainly hope that's the case that we do see 756 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more, physicality whether that's more days in 757 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: pads to use them all up before you break camp 758 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: and come back To tempe or is it just the 759 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: nature and the style of the drills that they're, doing 760 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: and there's more one on one work as opposed to 761 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: seven on seven or eleven on. Eleven but those pass rush, 762 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: drills offensive lineman versus defensive, lineman running backs against, linebackers 763 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: stuff like, that to where all, right let's utilize those 764 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: particular practices or those particular practice sessions a little bit 765 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: more in training camp than maybe we did the first two. 766 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 4: Years it doesn't have to mean just more, pads more, 767 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: hitting more overt. Physicality it can just be more compete 768 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 4: more all, right eleven on, eleven here we, go full, 769 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: speed full. Go you're not tackling to the ground you 770 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: never do in. Camp but there'd just be more of, 771 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 4: that more sessions that are more competitive than they. 772 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: Were a year. 773 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 4: Ago at the same, time What Rob frederickson, Say you know, 774 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 4: what if there's a few more inside run, drills you 775 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if not every single full padded practice last, 776 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 4: year to my, recollection had AN o LINE d line. 777 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 4: Drill so when you are in full, pads maybe that's an, 778 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: ABSOLUTE i, mean that's a. Staple and then you, know 779 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 4: maybe there's some goal line sessions you know where, okay 780 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: you know it's kind of a thud, drill but it 781 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: really turns into full go football by the time these, 782 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 4: guys you, know the blood starts. Boiling SO i, think 783 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 4: and once Again i've said, this there were two in 784 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: the first month of the year where The cardinals do 785 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: not win the battle of physicality Against detroit and Against. 786 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: Washington washington's d. Line they set a. 787 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 4: Tone and so now you want to be that, team 788 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 4: especially now that you have the depth and you have the, 789 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: physicality you have the dudes who can. Deliver and so 790 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: what does every coach do in any. Sport you match 791 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 4: your style of play to your. Personnel and The cardinals 792 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 4: are more equipped than ever to play that, physical violent 793 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 4: brand of football THAT jg. 794 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: Seeks there are no night. PRACTICES i don't envision a night. 795 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: Practice Jonathan gannon has not done. That but can we 796 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: get back to that, intensity that feeling when The cardinals 797 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: went up north to Flag staff and that night Practice Lumberjack, 798 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: stadium everyone pointed to that night. Practice you're outdoors and, 799 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: yeah you were in full, pads and a handful of 800 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: times those practices ended early because that were not just, 801 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: exchange but As wolf likes to, say, hey there's nothing 802 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 1: wrong with. Fighting, well there were several skirmishes during those 803 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: practices and flag staff. 804 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: And here's the, Thing, craig you, know here's the other, 805 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: thing and this kind of comes full. Circle hopefully this isn't. 806 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 4: Repetitive but you know what else ams up the intensity 807 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 4: is when jobs are on the. Line it's one thing 808 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: to be competitive and all, right offense trying to beat the, 809 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 4: defense corners are trying to beat the. Receivers but now 810 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: if a number of jobs are legitimately on the, line 811 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 4: and the film from these full, go full contact drills 812 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 4: are going to be evaluated first and foremost before anything 813 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 4: else you do out in that. Field, well that's where 814 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 4: the intensity gets real close to game. 815 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: Day speaking full, circle do you need me to walk 816 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: you to your car to make sure it starts before 817 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: your head. 818 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 2: High later on Ice? 819 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 4: Monday, okay are you saying you could if it, doesn't 820 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: you know what you're? Doing is that what you're, saying 821 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: you're YOU'RE. 822 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: I would just make sure that you, KNOW i, say you, know. 823 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah we got it, Done, craig it was you, know 824 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 4: it's a degree of. Difficulty the battery these, days isn't 825 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 4: just front center in the injuring. Department hell, yeah it 826 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 4: has to be buried deep in. There so we had 827 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: to take out a few other, things like the air 828 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 4: filter box and all that kind of. 829 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: Stuff we got it. Done, yeah no. 830 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Longer can you just pop the hood and you, know 831 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: make a couple of. Connections, All, oh it's not there, 832 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: anymore it's down? 833 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: Below like? What? What? 834 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 4: What speaking of cars behind? You was THIS f one 835 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: movie commercial that was playing. Earlier i'm trying to figure 836 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 4: out two. Things, one why does a movie only show 837 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 4: up in theaters for one? 838 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: Day? Why? What what is? 839 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 4: It why only one day would a movie show up in? 840 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 4: THEATERS i, mean not even a? Weekend is it an advanced? 841 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: Screaming you? Know it's only On? 842 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 4: Friday they say where you can buy tickets for THIS 843 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 4: f one movie On? Imax so maybe it's just because It's. 844 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: Imax as a, gearhead you, KNOW i want to see the, 845 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 4: movie but you, know Obviously i'm gonna be fighting with 846 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 4: everyone in the theater to get, it you, know because 847 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 4: it's one night, only, really because then it's going to 848 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 4: streaming or what have. YOU i don't quite understand that 849 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 4: so we'll. See that's my big decision this, Week, craig 850 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 4: thanks for, Asking AM i actually gonna go out On 851 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 4: friday night and rob elbows and try and get a 852 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 4: spot in the movie theater for that. Movie, well if you, 853 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: do here's hoping your car starts so you can get 854 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 4: to the. 855 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 2: Theater that's, right that's. 856 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 4: Right i'm the furthest thing FROM f one right now 857 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 4: WHEN i can't even get out of my own. 858 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: Driveway on that, note we will put a lit on 859 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: this edition Of Cardinals cover, two presented By, hyundai proudly 860 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: partner of The Arizona. Cardinals as, always special thanks to 861 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: our executive, Producer Jim, amhundro our associate, Producer Couldie, fincher 862 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: even though he's on vacation So i'm not sure why 863 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: we credit, him. 864 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: But his middle name is again For Paul. 865 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: Calvec I'm Craig reallui will talk to you next time 866 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: here On Cardinals cover, two