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We need to use science and data 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: in order to address public safety on violent crimes. By 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: his data and science is completely flawed. Nobody's say from 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Los Angeles because of a different attorney gap law. You 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: will see that not only have I hands public safety, 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I am absolutely outraged at the life that the suggest 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: zone is feeling. He has no business implementing laws of 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: his own personal choice, which we voted against. We've done 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: so in a way that it's much more well physically 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: and socially responsible. Not only is he breaking the law, 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: but he is not feeling what he is supposed to 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: do as a district attorney, and that is protect his victim. 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: He is in the wrong office. He should have been 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: a public defender. Each voted in, he can be voted out. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Us going home on direct crimes of historic glow in 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the stations of historic glows and will say, and now 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: for an update on the recall of La County District 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: Attorney George Gascon years John in Kent. You can think 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: about that. You play that opening that desk. There's criminals 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: in there in prison saluting George Gascon. I mean murderers. 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. Sometimes he gets lost because those 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: clips go by quickly and it's a montage of deputy 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: DA's and victims families, but in there's a couple of criminals. 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: This is really where we are with this guy. A 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: reminder that recalled da George Gascon dot com is saying 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: that if you're going to mail in the petitions or 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: an Eli County Register voting, you got to do it 51 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: today twenty four. You can drop it off at one 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: of their petition locations, which you can find by going 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: to the website and clicking a link. By June thirtieth, 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: which is Thursday, they have to have this all wrapped 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: up and into the Ellie County Register Office by July sixth, 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: so they need to go through all these petitions. Please, 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: whatever's left, we do need a cushion. It may be 58 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: as high as a thirty percent cushion. They may throw 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: out thirty percent of the signature, at least according to 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: one expert, we'll see other studies I saw was fifteen 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: to twenty percent get thrown out. But please please, we're 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: running out of time. So what we're going to talk 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: about right now is new research. Joining us will be 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: from the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation Research associate Elizabeth Burger. 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: One of the things you heard in that opening was 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: he has the data and the science on his side, 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: and his data and science has flawed. We have a 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: new federal study out that longer sentences actually reduce recidivism, 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: which is repeating crime, versus what Gascon has been trying 70 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to sell that longer sentences actually lead to more crime. 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Never really made instinctual sense, because if you have somebody 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: put away for a time, they're certainly not in the 73 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: streets committing crime, you're gonna say, well, when they come out, 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: they're worse. Anyway, let's talk about this study. Elizabeth, Welcome 75 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: to the John and Ken Show. Hi there, Ken, Thanks 76 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: so much for having me on. Yeah. So this study 77 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: comes to us from something called the United States Sentencing Commission. 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: Who are they? So? The United States Sentencing Commission is 79 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: a government entity that publishes research on sentencing outcomes, and 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: they track all the information on sentencing and for federal 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: prisoners in the United States and they work for Congress. 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: They're supposed to be bipartisan. This is not a think 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: tank that's you know, pro prison, are they or correct? 84 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: They are supposed to be bipartisan and they're appointed or 85 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: they get their position through Congress, is what I've read. Yes, exactly, 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: all right. So the study is called length of Incarceration 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and Recidivism and it just came out. Why don't you 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: go through some of the important points. Yeah, So this 89 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: study was released earlier this week and it examined the 90 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: relationship between lengths of incarceration and recidivism. And this is 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: a part of a larger multi year recidivism study that 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: also serves as an update to one of their prior 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: reports that examined the same thing. So this study looked 94 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: at a cohort of federal offenders who are released in 95 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: twenty ten and different lengths of incarceration and essentially whether 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: they would be more likely to be re arrested within 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: eight years of their release. So, when we're thinking about 98 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: research studies, there are a couple different things that we 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: want to think about, and one of the really common 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: research studies that we see is an impact evaluation, which 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: is also referred to as an effectiveness trial. So this 102 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: is any study that tries to assess whether a certain treatment, policy, 103 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: or program is effective in achieving a certain goal. So 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: this study was looking at different ourceration lengths and looking 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: at whether they were effective in achieving a certain goal. 106 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: In this case, the goal would be to decrease rearrests 107 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: upon the release. So in these types of studies, there's 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: always something related to a treatment and a comparison, So 109 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: the treatment of some sort is always going to be 110 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: the variable of interest, and in this case, the treatment 111 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: was the amount of time spent incarcerating and this is 112 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: usually compared to another group that either didn't receive treatment 113 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: or they received an alternative treatment. So in this case, 114 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: we're comparing people who received different times for incarcerations to 115 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: different sentence lengths and decreased or increased time served. So 116 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: in this study, the treatment was based on different categories 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: of incarceration length, so we wanted to make sure that 118 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: these groups are similar to each other. So the only 119 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: thing that was different between them was that they served 120 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: different amounts of time incarcerated, and everything else between them 121 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: was similar. So these were offenders that were comparable to 122 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: each other and were similar on offense type, and were 123 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: similar to each other in terms of criminal history and demographics, 124 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: but they differed in terms of the time spent incarcerated. 125 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: So these ranged the categories ranged from twenty four to 126 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: thirty six months, thirty six to forty eight months, forty 127 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: eight to sixty months, sixty to one twenty months, and 128 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: more than one twenty months. Okay, so we're trying to see, 129 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: if you know, the time that they spent incarcerated would 130 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: make them less likely to be re arrested. And essentially 131 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: what they found was that the odds of rearrest were 132 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: lower for offenders who were sentenced to more than five 133 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: years in comparison with people who received shorter sentences, and specifically, 134 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: for people who received sentences ranging from five to ten years, 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: the odds of them being rearrested was eighteen percent lower 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: than comparable offenders who received shorter sentences, and for people 137 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: who were sentenced to ten years or more, the odds 138 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: of re arrest was twenty nine percent lower than comparable 139 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: offenders with shorter sentences. So now essentially showed yeah, just 140 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: as these were federal, these were so do you know 141 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: what kind of crimes these were. It's just an assortment 142 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: of federal crimes. Yeah, exactly. So these were federal offenders 143 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: and it was basically all offenses. So it was a 144 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: really really large sample of almost twenty three thousand offenders 145 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: who are released from federal prison. And they were of 146 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: all different offense types and different criminal histories. Right, So, 147 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, for people they are sentenced to ten 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: years or more in federal prison, the odds of rearrest 149 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: were twenty nine percent lower than the offenders who got 150 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: the shorter sentences. That's what came out in this research 151 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: on the long end of this exactly. And do they 152 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: have I mean, did they mention any This is really 153 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: just scientific. It's just the way that the numbers came out. 154 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: They didn't have any really explanation for this other than 155 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, if you're the longer you're 156 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: kept in prison, the less likely you walk to offend 157 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: because you're not out of the streets. But this resentivism 158 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: period was what eight years post release, that's what they 159 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: looked at, exactly. So they wanted to see if people 160 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: were re arrested within eight years of leaving prison. Okay, 161 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: all right, so and this just came out. Yeah, this 162 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: was just released on Tuesday. As you mentioned, it was 163 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a pretty large base of inmates that they looked at. Yes, okay, well, 164 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I appreciate you spending the time 165 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: to talk to us about this. Yeah, this essentially shows, 166 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, that these policies that are saying that shorter 167 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: sentences are just as effective or potentially more effective than 168 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: longer sentences is flawed. And when we keep relying on 169 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: these types of policies that aren't really grounded in science, 170 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: we are going to see things that we don't want, 171 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: like it's such as increased crime. And we really need 172 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: to be looking at the research before kind of forming 173 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: these policy decisions. And we also conducted a research review 174 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: last summer looking at this as well, and we found 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: no published study supporting the narrative that shorter sentences were 176 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: just as good as longer sentences. Now our DA says 177 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: that there are studies. George Gascone has been telling that 178 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: to everybody that'll listen in the media that I have 179 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: studies and science behind my position that longer sentences lead 180 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: to more crime. But he's making that up, isn't he. Essentially, Yeah, 181 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: so there have been a couple of studies that have 182 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: tried to claim that, but when you really look at 183 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: the methodology, they methodologies aren't that strong. And that's kind 184 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: of where this study, the Sensing Commission study was really 185 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: helpful because it was very methodologically strong and therefore we 186 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: can trust the results more. All right, Elizabeth Burger, thanks 187 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: for talking to me. Yep, thank you so much. It 188 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: was great being here. Okay. Research associate Elizabeth Burger from 189 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a good organization that one 190 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: of the very few in California that is on the 191 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: side of victims. Yeah, people to be victims of crime. 192 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: This is a federal study that longer sentences actually do 193 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: reduce recidivism. It makes common sense for two reasons, as 194 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: I've been saying, the longer you're in prison. Of first, 195 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: you can't reoffend because you're in prison. And then when 196 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: you get out, you got to think about the consequences. Again, 197 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: if I do something like I did before, I might 198 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: get another ten years. You give somebody a short sentence 199 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: two years or whatever, they're going to realize that it's 200 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: not a bigger price to pay. Why not. That's what's 201 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: been going on in California. That's what's been going on 202 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: under DA's like George Gascon and that idiot in San 203 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: Francisco that got recalled. Okay, recall da George gascon dot com. 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: The big push is on to get a cushion of 205 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: signatures so we can vote on recalling this creep. John 206 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: and Ken show here on KFI coming up your chance 207 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: at some money with the keyword that you enter at 208 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: the website recall da George gascone dot com. I had 209 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that you have to get the petitions in the 210 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: mail today if you're going to use the mail, otherwise 211 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: you have to use a drop off site. This is it. 212 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: We are pretty much at the end. They have to 213 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: have everything turned in by July sixth for it to 214 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: count to get us to vote on recalling DA George Gascon. 215 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to a representative next hour. They 216 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: just put out a press release. They want to make 217 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: sure that the county Registrar counts every signature that's submitted. 218 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: And you may say, well, why wouldn't they Well, apparently 219 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: under the rules they can take a sample and we'll 220 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: find out what those rules are, but they can just 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: take a five percent sample batch of the hundreds and 222 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousand signatures turned in and go off of that, 223 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: so you'd be at the mercy of the sample batch 224 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: as to whether or not you have enough valid signatures. 225 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: That's just applied to the total in a statistical way 226 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: to determine. So recall da George Gascoon dot com. Let's 227 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: get as many signatures as we can get in there 228 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: and we'll find out what they're up to here with 229 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: the possibility of using a sample batch. When we talked 230 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: to a representative coming up next hour. The big story today, 231 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: which you can avoid, is the US Supreme Court ruling 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: that overturns Row versus Wade, the nineteen seventy three decision 233 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: that basically gave the right to abortion. People knew in 234 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: all the years since that analyze this legally that by 235 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: using the Fourteenth Amendment and sort of the right to 236 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: privacy and other protections, that it was just the protection 237 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: of liberty. That it might be a stretch, depending on 238 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: the composition of the court to actually make a decision 239 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: like that, but it was reaffirmed about twenty years later 240 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: in another decision. So book, I believe this. I thought 241 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: it's settled. I really just figured you know that states 242 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: can do some restricting, but you can have an abortion. 243 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: But the movement never died and the people, and this 244 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: is unlike almost any other issue you can talk about 245 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: all the ones they're throwing out there today that next 246 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: are going to come after gay marriage. This is completely 247 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: different because you do have a life. Whether you believe 248 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: a life begins a conception or some period down the 249 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: road from there, we're talking about a life inside a body. 250 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: It's many people believe that life has to be protected 251 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: as well. So there are twenty six states that would 252 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: ban all or nearly all abortions. Now that row has 253 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: been overturned a year ago, it's about half the states. 254 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: The only objection I have when I read this stuff, 255 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and we talked about this when this draft opinion came out. 256 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't care or mind that people come to California 257 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: for abortions, but I don't think we should be paying 258 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: for them. They're talking about California being a sanctuary state. 259 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't really believe that's up to the taxpayers to 260 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: do that. I don't think we have to do that. 261 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: You can figure it out on your own if you're 262 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: going to do that, or go to a state that 263 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: is going to pay for that. And I know that 264 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: because Gavin Newsom is, whether you like it or not, 265 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: likes to say whether you'll like it or not. He's 266 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: running for president. So what he is going to do 267 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: is probably push for an abortion sanctuary situation here in California, 268 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: inviting people from all over the country to come here 269 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and have those abortions and don't worry, we'll pay for it, 270 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: We'll take care of it. Won't be surprised if they're 271 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: going to put them up in accommodations because he wants 272 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: to get a foothold and he wants to use an 273 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: issue like this, just like he's trying to use other 274 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: issues to make people pay attention to him. I mean, 275 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: even one Democratic operative said yesterday, this is a way 276 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: of trying to get attention when you're largely irrelevant, and 277 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: he is largely irrelevant. I don't think he's talked about much. 278 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: In Washington, DC. They did a story yesterday on Democratic 279 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: governors who may run if Joe Biden doesn't run in 280 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and of course Newsom, because he's much 281 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: younger than Biden and he's running the biggest state in 282 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: the nation, is always a possibility, but don't take it 283 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: too seriously because he's a wonk. He's annoying, he does 284 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: not connect with people, and he will flop, just as 285 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: many other California politicians, including Oh, let me see Oh, 286 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: the Vice President Kamala Harris, have bombed on the national stage. 287 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: So you're gonna be seeing stories all afternoon and tonight 288 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: about people gathering in places around southern California to protest 289 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: the decision. As I said, it reminds me of when 290 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Trump won the election. I don't think it's exactly the 291 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: same crowd. But of course this has been an issue 292 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: for so long that people use It's always been the 293 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: drawback issue. It's always been the issue that Democrats in 294 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the state hang on to when they're looking for something 295 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: to tell people to keep me in office. They're going 296 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: to be doing some vigils in places like Pasadena, downtown LA. 297 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: It's the usual protest groups that are out there all right. 298 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Oh, We're going to head over to Bidenville. 299 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, of course, he spoke today about the Row 300 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: versus weight decision, but he's also in the news for 301 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: a couple of other reasons, one of them expected but 302 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: still funny. It's coming up next on the John and 303 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: Ken Show on KFI. We'd like to formally welcome you 304 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: to the rest home of old Joe. Welcome to Bidenville. Everyone, 305 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, when we're created, go you know the you 306 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: know the thing I'm one of my doing here. There's 307 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: a man on the moon or whatever. You know something 308 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: or you know whether those aliens are here or not. 309 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember it anyway. I commuted every single day 310 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: for thirty six years as president vice president United States. 311 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: A lot of the folks, and Amtrak became my family. 312 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Not a joke that was on the television. On television, 313 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: I was on the telephone. I'm not I'm not supposed 314 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: to take any questions, but go ahead. I was the 315 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: foot between the foothills of the Himlas with Shijing Pan 316 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: for Secretary of Health and Educations are I nominated Javier Baccaria. 317 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: President Harris was a proud Howard alone. That's Joe Brandon. 318 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I got them one point nine trillion dollars 319 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: relief so far. Cleptocracy, Yeah, cryptocracy and the guys who 320 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: are the cleptocracy. And now to give you a tour 321 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: of Bidenville before your extended stay ears John and Ken Yeah, 322 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: KF I am six forty. It's very sad because there's 323 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: really been no point in time where they's got this 324 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: really loud political divide in the country. You got the 325 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: conservative far right people, the Trumpsters, and you got this 326 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: progressive left crowd. And the only person that could beat Trump, 327 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: at least they thought in twenty twenty, and I guess 328 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: they were right was Biden. But he's old and he's 329 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: not really up to the job of being a firebrand 330 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: and a leader. I mean, take today, he came out 331 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: to try to express outrage over this Supreme Court decision 332 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: of Roe v. Wade, but there wasn't not a passion 333 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: behind it, and they're expecting it was just he wanted 334 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: to make the announcement that well, Congress ought to pass 335 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: a law protecting their right to an abortion, and to 336 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: do that, they're gonna have to drive people to the 337 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: polls in November to keep their Democratic majority in the 338 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: House of Representatives and maybe grab the Senate. If that 339 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: doesn't happen, I don't think they can pass a bill 340 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: to codify Rowe versus Wade and a right to an abortion. 341 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: That of course is the big story today, he specifically 342 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: called out Justice Thomas. Let me just say that, and 343 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: I said this earlier in the show. Justice Thomas is 344 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: getting attention because in his opinion he wrote about the 345 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: possibilities of revisiting other rulings, including same sex marriage and contraception. 346 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: None of the other justices went down that road. It 347 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: was just Thomas. As I mentioned, Thomas is a purist. 348 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: He was a protege of Justice Scalia who basically believed 349 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: its constitution is what it is, and we're not they're 350 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: going to go too far and trying to interpret every 351 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: little nuance and fast of it. That's what a purist does. 352 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of where this ruling went in saying that 353 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: whenever they did in nineteen seventy three of the Row 354 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: versus Wade, and they tried to look at the fourteenth 355 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Amendment and the protection of liberty and the right to privacy. 356 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: That's how they conjured up that decision in nineteen seventy 357 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: three because clearly by that point in the country, abortion 358 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: was becoming more popular. It was a very big issue 359 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: and there were many legal cases surrounding it. So that's 360 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: what they did well this time on this particular issue. 361 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: There were enough purists to say, I don't think the 362 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Constitution gives anybody the definitive right to abortion, but we'll 363 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: leave it up to the states and the people who 364 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: elect the legislators in the states to decide. Predictably, this 365 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: goes down the rift that I just talked about. You've 366 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: got the red states, there's about twenty six of them 367 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: are either going to ban abortion or severely restricted, and 368 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: they got the Blue states, and California is going to 369 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: lead the charge becoming a sanctuary state for people who 370 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: want to have abortions. Isn't it nice to be known 371 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: for that abortion tourism? That's really pleasant thought, isn't it. Biden, 372 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: of course made news late yesterday. He was at a 373 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: news event something to do with the wind industry. The 374 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: wind industry, I guess wind power, alternative energy, but I 375 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: see this picture I'm looking at comes from c SPAN. 376 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: Who else would carry this, Oh, it's a big event. 377 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: It's a round table between droll Biden and executives from 378 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the wind industry. Who wants to go nobody. But there 379 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: was a photographer there who snapped a picture of old 380 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Joe and he's holding up what is being referred to 381 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: as a cheat sheet, because whatever he wanted to read 382 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: was on one side, but on the other side, and 383 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: the side that was held up opposite to Joe Biden's 384 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: face was it says the president offshore wind dropped by 385 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: sequence of events, and it has all these bullet points. 386 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: You enter the Roosevelt Room and you say hello to participants. 387 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: Can you handle that? Joe walk in? Say hello? Or 388 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: are you going to do that thing where you turn 389 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: and there's nobody there? You take your seat. What's interesting 390 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: about that is the U and the your is in 391 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: capital letters there. And by the way, the U and 392 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: the first one I mentioned. You enter the Roosevelt Room 393 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: and say hello to participants. The U was also capitalized 394 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: so that he doesn't mistake it for anybody else taking 395 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: their seats, or anybody else saying a lot of participants, 396 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: it's you, Joe, We're talking about you. I imagine he 397 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: can still read. It's in pretty large lettering. Then you 398 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: give brief comments, the press departs. Then you ask somebody 399 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: named Liz Schuler, the president of the afl CIO question 400 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: note in italics Liz is joining us virtually. Then in 401 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: capital letters again, you thank the participants, and finally capitalizes 402 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: the word you depart. If that's not like a parody, 403 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: that almost sounds like a joke from Saturday Night Live. 404 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: He actually has to be told to depart, So we 405 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: probably sits there, looks at the card and I can 406 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: see people getting a prompt when you're dealing with all 407 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: the events the president would deal with him one day, 408 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: you want to know the order of events, which guy's 409 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: going to come up to the next, who's going to speak? 410 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: But this is so specific about actually saying hello, taking 411 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: your seat, thanking people, and departing. Isn't that something you 412 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: can kind of figure out on your own? And there's 413 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: been this debate over just how managed is he. Well, 414 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: he's incredibly managed, as you can see. They don't want 415 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: him going off and taking questions from reporters on his own, 416 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: and they want him to understand what he's supposed to do, 417 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: because he does get easily confused and turned around. Many times, 418 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: he's not even sure where he is in many cases. 419 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty sad, but it's pretty indicative of what we're 420 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: facing today with this seventy nine year old man and 421 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: declining mental condition. All Right, more coming up of The 422 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show after four o'clock we're going to 423 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: talk about the travel Nightmare again. We'll be talking to 424 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: ABC News about the latest with the airlines and what 425 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to do to get back on track. It'll 426 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: also have a chance next hour again to win money 427 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to be exact with the keyword that you 428 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: enter at the website KFI amzixty dot com. Coming up 429 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: after four o'clock an updated your travel Nightmare. If you 430 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: have plans to fly, I'll be taking a couple of 431 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: trips coming up myself. You might want to know what 432 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: the airlines are up to because they're canceling more and 433 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: more flights every day and there's stop flying to certain 434 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: places smaller airports around the country. We'll talk to Alex Stone. 435 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: We will also have a chance for you to win 436 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars with the keyword to enter at the website, 437 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: and we'll give you an update on the recall of 438 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: La County District Attorney George Gascone. There's been another development 439 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: you need to hear about in today. Is the deadline 440 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: for you to mail in your petition today, June twenty fourth. 441 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: They want you to put it in the mail today 442 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: If you're an LA County registered voter in the world 443 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: to politics. Here's a name that's come up only because 444 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: we're going to play a bit of audio. That's funny. 445 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: There is a primary in Arizona for governor. It's coming 446 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: up in August. There's a number of candidates running on 447 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: the Republican side. One of them is a woman by 448 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: the name of Carrie Anne Lake. She announced only I 449 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: think June one, she's running for a governor. She's a 450 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: former television news journalist. She worked at a Phoenix television 451 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: station for twenty two years, stepped down last year from 452 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: the role, and she's now running for Arizona governor. And 453 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: it's funny if you google her name, a top story 454 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: that pops up. It's like everywhere. Drag queen claims Arizona 455 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: GOP candidate carry Lake is trying to pander to Republicans. 456 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: This is summoned by the name of Barbara Seville, a 457 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: drag queen who said that they were friends with Carry 458 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: Lake and thought she was very positive about LGBTQ plus issues, 459 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: and now she looks to have drifted to the right 460 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: in order to position herself in the Republican Party in 461 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: trying to win this nomination. Oh, here's a question. Did 462 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Carry Lake support Obama? Lake returned to being a Republican 463 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: on January thirty, twenty twelve. She explained her leaving the 464 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: Republican Party in OH six as a reaction to the 465 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: ongoing Iraq and Afghanistan wars. She had supported John Kerry 466 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: and OH four and Yes Obama in OH eight, but 467 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: returned to the party in twenty twelve. All right, Well, 468 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: the reason we're talking about Kerry Lake is, uh, she 469 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: was badgered by a CNN reporter for a quick interview. 470 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: And here's what happened. Hi, Harry, Hi, you don't have 471 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: a mask on anymore. Well, we're six feet apart. Do 472 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: you have a minute to chat? Um, I'll do an interview, Okay, 473 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: as long as it airs on CNN plus still exists. 474 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think so, because the people don't like what 475 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: you guys are paddling, which is propaganda. Thank you for you. 476 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: If she walked away, ah dig a, CNN Plus made 477 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: forever rest in peace. So that's obviously when you're running 478 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination in Arizona, CNN is not a 479 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: friendly place. So you figured that would make good news. 480 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: And apparently that's a video that's been put about on 481 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Twitter from a candidate for a governor in Arizona. One 482 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: of the other stories making news this week, it has 483 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: been sixty years since an amazing escape from Alcatraz. Dever 484 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: marked ever visitor Alcatraz to prison up there? Yes? Mostly, 485 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most popular tourist attractions 486 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. I did it once, but it was 487 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: a long time ago. On June eleventh, nineteen sixty two, 488 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: three men escaped convicted bank Robert Frank Morris, John Anglin 489 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: and his brother Clarence England. They escaped the prison after 490 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: posing fake heads in their beds and then they made 491 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: inflated vests and a raft out of prison raincoats, and 492 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: that's what they used to allegedly swim away. Now many 493 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: believe they're dead. That because the water. I mean, if 494 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: you've ever been in this part of the Bay area 495 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: on the water there, the water is constantly rough. It 496 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: is really freaking freezing. It's very choppy. They don't think 497 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: they could have survived this, but just in case, the 498 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: FBI and the US Marshall Service has been releasing sort 499 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: of a time phased picture of what the three would 500 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: look like if they were still alive and around today. 501 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: They'd be in their nineties. This is sixty years ago 502 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: and at the time I guess they were around thirty. 503 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: So just in case they're still out there. Some people 504 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: say that they escaped and they ended up in South America, 505 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: but most think that they just drowned. They said that 506 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: they got many tips over the years, including the discovery 507 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: of a raft and a paddle possibly be recovered from 508 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Angel Island. There also was allegedly a car stolen by 509 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the three men in Marin County the night of the escape. 510 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: And there's this photo taken of the brothers in nineteen 511 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: seventy five by a childhood friend who claim yeah, they're 512 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: alive and they were last seen at a bar in Brazil. 513 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: An analyst hired by the family of these brothers the 514 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Englands confirmed that the photographed was legitimate, but the FBI 515 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: did not necessarily believe the photograph as legitimate. When you 516 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: have something as notorious and legendary as escaping from Alcatraz, 517 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: you can only imagine over the years the stories that 518 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: people make up to keep the legend going, to keep 519 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: people believing that this happened, and not only that, they're 520 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: still alive. Yeah, I can't even imagine escaping and being alive. 521 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Now there's a movie. There's been several movies, wasn't there woman. 522 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: I think Burt Lancaster was in one. I think Escape 523 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: from Alcatrazer some famous actor years ago. But these are 524 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: the three that allegedly, well, they did get away from 525 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: the prison. Question is did they survive the swim. No 526 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: bodies were ever found, So the FBI did a seventeen 527 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: year investigation before kind of putting it in a cold file. 528 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: But it's come back, obviously because of the significance of 529 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: the sixty year anniversary of their escape. All right, coming 530 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: up next your travel Nightmare Update, we'll talk to Alex Stone. 531 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: ABC News. You're chanted money That thousand dollars keyword up 532 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: for grabs. Find out what the keyword is. 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