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Speaker 2: Let's start with the NFC East here.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've got the Cowboys leaning the way it over
Speaker 1: under nine and a half. That's just heavily towards the over,
Speaker 1: the Eagles which are now over under nine, the Giants
Speaker 1: over under six, juiced a little bit towards the under,
Speaker 1: and Washington over under five.
Speaker 2: Just a little bit toward the over.
Speaker 1: So what are you thinking here as we head rapidly
Speaker 1: into the season.
Speaker 3: All right, look, I know that you're a big fantasy guy,
Speaker 3: so Saquon Barkley's gonna have a gigantic year, But I'm
Speaker 3: not a very big believer in that offense. Otherwise, not
Speaker 3: very big believer in rookie head coaches in the middle
Speaker 3: of COVID. So I've kind of taken the stance that
Speaker 3: you're gonna fade first year head coaches in this COVID
Speaker 3: year because of the lack of preparation, the lack of
Speaker 3: time to get their system in place. He has a
Speaker 3: young quarterback in Daniel Jones. I know Sakuon Barkley, but
Speaker 3: I'm pretty strong on the under here for the Giants.
Speaker 3: I think they're a five win football team at MAX
Speaker 3: and I just Joe Judge is barely I mean, I
Speaker 3: mean I'm older than Joe Judge. Okay, so he's just
Speaker 3: everybody's come out of the Patriot tree. The former coaches
Speaker 3: have not been good. Mike Frabel is a former player.
Speaker 3: Different story. I'm on the under for the Giants.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. It's not just the new head coach.
Speaker 1: Right, it's the new offensive coordinator, right, Jason Garrett, new
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I mean they are basically rebuilding the entire thing. That's
Speaker 1: not what you want to be doing right now with COVID.
Speaker 1: Now here's the one thing I'm gonna say. They get
Speaker 1: Washington twice. I know how you feel about Washington. If
Speaker 1: they're going to even be able to be competitive, They've.
Speaker 2: Got the Bengals in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We don't expect the Bengals to be very good. They've
Speaker 1: got you know, maybe the Cardinals at home. Maybe you
Speaker 1: want to give them that if you're not that excited,
Speaker 1: but you look at the rest of their of their
Speaker 1: you know, schedule, They've got to find three more wins
Speaker 1: to hit the over and they've got the Ravens, you know,
Speaker 1: the Bears in Chicago, the Rams in Los Angeles, Seattle
Speaker 1: and Seattle, the Bucks, the Steelers, the Browns, the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers, the Bear, you know, the Bears we talked about.
Speaker 1: I don't really know where those wins are going to
Speaker 1: come from, you know that that's really the thing.
Speaker 2: They've got a.
Speaker 1: Brutal opener too, right, a brutal opening schedule where they're
Speaker 1: going to hit a bunch of tough defenses. So this
Speaker 1: is a team where I agree that, you know, if
Speaker 1: I have to go one side or the other, I'll
Speaker 1: go the other. I don't hate the offense generally speaking,
Speaker 1: coming in. I mean they've they've done some stuff with
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I kind of like Jones for the future.
Speaker 1: You know, they have weapons with Saquon, they've got the
Speaker 1: three receivers, they've got Evan Ingram, So it's possible that
Speaker 1: they're going to surprise. But I agree, you look at
Speaker 1: that schedule. I really don't see how they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to get to seven wins overall. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you about the Eagles, because the Eagles obviously are
Speaker 1: now you know, they're well coached. Of course, we know
Speaker 1: they were I believe at nine and a half at
Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason. They're down to nine. They we
Speaker 1: talked about the Chargers. I teased you a little bit
Speaker 1: because you know, you countered my what about the Chargers
Speaker 1: with they're like a legitimately cursed team because.
Speaker 2: They get what about the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we've got Miles Sanders. Let's assume
Speaker 1: you know the word is he's you know it was
Speaker 1: a vague lower body injury, but it's apparently a hamstring.
Speaker 1: He's reportedly supposed to be okay and good to go.
Speaker 1: Let's assume he's fine. Let's assume Carson Wentz is fine
Speaker 1: because he's also dealing with some sort of soft tissue injury.
Speaker 1: Right alson, Jeffrey is not going to play at the start.
Speaker 1: He may avoid the publics, but he's not going to
Speaker 1: play to start the season. Jalen Rager is going to.
Speaker 2: Miss a few gate games. At least.
Speaker 1: They've already got two massive injuries to their offensive line
Speaker 1: with Brandon Brooks and Andre Dillard.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about them at over under nine?
Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, I would bet the
Speaker 3: under because I think this entire division it's probably a
Speaker 3: nine win team at max. I think this is just
Speaker 3: a typical NFC East type of year where everyone's gonna
Speaker 3: hover around seven and nine, eight and eight and nine
Speaker 3: and seven. I don't love I mean, Doug Peterson had
Speaker 3: one great year. Outside of that, I mean, let's just
Speaker 3: be honest here, they haven't been that great. Carson Wentz
Speaker 3: has not lived up to the hype, and I don't
Speaker 3: know really what this team looks like from an injury standpoint,
Speaker 3: So if I had to bet it, I would bet
Speaker 3: the under. I don't like any of these teams, to
Speaker 3: be quite honest, I don't like the Cowboys. I don't
Speaker 3: like the Eagles. I don't like the the the Washington
Speaker 3: football teams.
Speaker 2: Heuse almost cut, Yeah, you cut yourself.
Speaker 3: I just don't like any of them. I just I
Speaker 3: think this is a bad football division right now, and
Speaker 3: I think that people are just assuming that here comes
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys and they're going to be great.
Speaker 3: And I've never been a big Dak Prescott fan. I
Speaker 3: just I mean, the fact that they were even toying
Speaker 3: with the idea of paying him thirty five forty million
Speaker 3: dollars a year is insane to me. So I know
Speaker 3: people are there's a Dak segment that love him or
Speaker 3: hate him. I'm on the other side. I don't like him,
Speaker 3: So I don't like any of these win totals. To
Speaker 3: be quite honest, I would go under with the Eagles
Speaker 3: if I had to bet it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask something, If you really do view not
Speaker 1: only the Cowboys that way, but the entire division, why
Speaker 1: not be you know you're getting plus money right now,
Speaker 1: generally speaking on the Cowboys under nine and a half
Speaker 1: because they've just been you know, their America's team. As
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of excitement build thing. They
Speaker 1: did some you know they drafted see that are really
Speaker 1: good draft ceedee Lamb kind of fell to them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got an exciting offense, and you know, McCarthy, for
Speaker 1: all his flaws, he is leaving the offensive system in
Speaker 1: place that worked so well last year under Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1: So if you do think of it that way, why
Speaker 1: aren't you kind of feeling the Cowboys under nine and
Speaker 1: a half considering that the consensus ods at the very
Speaker 1: least are plus one twenty five.
Speaker 3: Six games against the NFC East.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's why that's civil as that.
Speaker 3: Huh, because they are playing other teams in the division
Speaker 3: were bad and so if they go six to zero
Speaker 3: in their division, that's six wins and now all the
Speaker 3: needst four more wins to get over. So that that's
Speaker 3: my concern with both betting the under for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Is it Like I mentioned, I think the entire division's bad,
Speaker 3: So I'm concerned. I'm concerned about you know, bad teams
Speaker 3: playing bad teams, but I do think the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: probably the best of the worst. So I would shade
Speaker 3: away from going with the under there on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: But you know, I wouldn't want to bet. If I
Speaker 3: had to bet the Cowboys, it would probably be on
Speaker 3: the over, but I wouldn't like doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a little bit of a taste on
Speaker 1: the under just because of the plus money. Because I
Speaker 1: do think that you know, we've seen enough Division games
Speaker 1: are just unpredictable. They're not going to go six and
Speaker 1: zero in the division, right, Like, I mean, maybe they are,
Speaker 1: but no, no, I think the Eagles obviously can put
Speaker 1: up a fight.
Speaker 2: The Giants played on top. You don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: who knows what Washington is going to be. Like, I
Speaker 2: don't like Dwayne Haskins. Their defense is bad, but you know.
Speaker 3: But they're young though. Man, that defensive line. They've invested
Speaker 3: so much money in that defensive line and now they're
Speaker 3: bringing in I mean last year, I mean they had
Speaker 3: to have Number one to pick overall coming in. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've got some you know, Chase Young that, they've got
Speaker 3: some really talented defensive linemen. That defense with Ron Rivera there,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't sleep on that defense later in the year
Speaker 3: for the Washington football team because I think that And look,
Speaker 3: I don't like Haskins either, but if he falls in
Speaker 3: his face, they've got Alex Smith behind him. I mean,
Speaker 3: they could lean on a veteran. If things really go
Speaker 3: sideways and Haskins is throwing four picks a game, they
Speaker 3: can lean on Alex Smith to come in and spots
Speaker 3: start for a little bit, and it wouldn't be like
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be over his head coming in to start
Speaker 3: a game in the NFL. So talk about a crazy,
Speaker 3: unbelievable cap to that story if that guy starts one
Speaker 3: game in the NFL. So I don't hate that team.
Speaker 3: I just I think they're probably two years away.
Speaker 2: Though no, I completely agree.
Speaker 1: But again, you know, I'm more talking about them, not
Speaker 1: even with their over under, but just whether or not
Speaker 1: can they somehow show up on that game against the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, at home, especially you know Ron Rivera. Let's
Speaker 1: not let's not completely discount the motivational factor Ron Vera
Speaker 1: obviously dealing with cancer. You know, the team, yeah, could
Speaker 1: rally and again it's a divisional game, you don't know necessarily,
Speaker 1: but especially we talked about new you know, they've all
Speaker 1: got new coaches basically coming in. It's not except that
Speaker 1: he goes you don't that's not what you want basically
Speaker 1: on this season. So yeah, to me, I've put a
Speaker 1: little bit, given the plus money on the Cowboys under,
Speaker 1: but you're more on the Giants under that. I don't
Speaker 1: mind that bet either. That would be the second pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm gonna bet that the Giant un I'll
Speaker 3: play that. I'll bet that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move here to the NFC North. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got the Packers who won thirteen games last year,
Speaker 1: made it to the NFC Championship game with an over
Speaker 1: under of nine. It's just towards the over. Vikings also
Speaker 1: an over under of nine. That's just a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the under. The Bears at over under.
Speaker 2: Eight, and the Lions over under at seven.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of six and a half's out there,
Speaker 1: but it's you know, Lions over under seven.
Speaker 2: Anything you like here in the NFC North.
Speaker 3: All right, So, a couple of years ago, the then
Speaker 3: Oakland Raiders got incredibly lucky with one score victories, and
Speaker 3: everybody bet under the next year because regression happens things
Speaker 3: come back down to the mean. This is the same
Speaker 3: thing's gonna happen with the Packers. Yeah, the Packers had
Speaker 3: so many one score victories last year.
Speaker 2: Eight and eight to one in single possession games.
Speaker 3: They lucked their way into a couple of crazy wins
Speaker 3: against I mean, they beat the Bears what was like
Speaker 3: thirteen whatever, thirty to ten whatever. It was that ridiculous
Speaker 3: opening night game where they didn't score. And yet the
Speaker 3: Bears are quarterbacks by a pathetic quarterback, so they couldn't
Speaker 3: actually score anything. So like, I mean, I think the
Speaker 3: Packers are going to be in for a long year.
Speaker 3: They didn't invest in the wide receiving core the way
Speaker 3: that they should have. They used a first round pick
Speaker 3: on Jordan Love. They added a whole lot of drama
Speaker 3: into their locker room for no reason. I think the
Speaker 3: quarterback and the coach hate each other. Packers under nine
Speaker 3: wins is I think a very good play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you where my trouble is. And again
Speaker 1: you look at like their Bethagoray and whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: their window it was like eight and a half, right,
Speaker 1: like exactly why we talked about it last week with
Speaker 1: the Chargers right, the Chargers were terrible in one score game.
Speaker 2: Do you kind of reverse that and it goes really well?
Speaker 2: And you brought up the Raiders as well. This is
Speaker 2: really tough.
Speaker 1: I mean I completely get it. Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: I can bet under. Like I part of me thinks
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers and I've used the term several times
Speaker 1: in our fantasy podcast, will give the metaphorical middle finger
Speaker 1: to everybody this year. And he doesn't really have the
Speaker 1: weapons to do so. Right, He's got Devanta Adams and
Speaker 1: then I guess his second receiver is Alan Lazard, who
Speaker 1: I like, you know you've got mbag in college, right.
Speaker 1: I mean the bottom line is he part of part
Speaker 1: of me thinks he's just gonna be so mad this
Speaker 1: entire year that he's going to kind of recapture the
Speaker 1: Fountain of youth. Now that is not the type of
Speaker 1: thing that you bet on, obviously, but it's something where
Speaker 1: man to go eight and eight.
Speaker 2: It's it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's not something that I completely love necessarily. What about
Speaker 1: the Vikings here, you know, they they've got the same
Speaker 1: over under, They've got kind of this this. You know
Speaker 1: they obviously you know Kevin Stefansi's gone, but Gary Kubiak
Speaker 1: is there. It's probably gonna be roughly the same offense.
Speaker 1: They trade away Stefan Diggs. Their defense has been a
Speaker 1: little crazy, but their defense always plays better than I
Speaker 1: feel like it should necessarily coming in Obviously, they've got
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter and they just you know, got in Gatway,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of rebuilding. What do you think about
Speaker 1: about the Vikings over under nine?
Speaker 3: See? The reason why I would stay away from the
Speaker 3: Vikings is because if you talk to book makers and
Speaker 3: you say, okay, who gets the biggest home field advantage,
Speaker 3: who gets the biggest spike, the Vikings are one of
Speaker 3: the teams that gets nearly you know, three and a
Speaker 3: half or more in terms of what the book makers
Speaker 3: think going to Minnesota, how tough it is to play
Speaker 3: at Bank of America. So without fans being there now
Speaker 3: we're still working out what level of crowd noise you
Speaker 3: can pipe in and what right. But I think it's
Speaker 3: a huge deal that the Vikings aren't playing in front
Speaker 3: of fans, and I think that that makes their season
Speaker 3: almost unplayable because you don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: If this was a typical year, I would say they're
Speaker 3: gonna run the rock. They're gonna ask Kirk Cousins to
Speaker 3: do a little bit more each year and not have
Speaker 3: him do a ton, and he's shown that he has
Speaker 3: the ability of making big throws and making big plays.
Speaker 3: But I would stay away from this simply because I
Speaker 3: don't know what this team's gonna look like at home,
Speaker 3: and if there's no home field advantage, that number basically
Speaker 3: is set for a team that's gonna play well at home,
Speaker 3: and I'm not so sure the Vikings are gonna play
Speaker 3: well at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to dive into that a little
Speaker 1: more in terms of how it affects your feelings on
Speaker 1: the over under for both the Saints and the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: two teams that you know have huge home field managers.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a minute.
Speaker 1: Any feeling either way, any lean either way, or just
Speaker 1: a total stay away.
Speaker 3: I would stay away. Yeah. I wouldn't go anywhere near
Speaker 3: the Vikings this year simply because I don't know what
Speaker 3: they're going to look like at home. And nine is
Speaker 3: a difficult number, because you talked about that last week
Speaker 3: talking about the AFC. The ten is really difficult. Ten
Speaker 3: and six is a hard number to get to and
Speaker 3: going nine and seven, or you know, maybe you bet
Speaker 3: it and you hope to get a push on it.
Speaker 3: If you bet the over and you hope to you know,
Speaker 3: hope they win nine. But I just again, without knowing
Speaker 3: what their home field is, they're going to look like
Speaker 3: their home field performances will look like. I don't think
Speaker 3: you can accurately gauge what a Viking year will look
Speaker 3: like this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about the other two teams? Any lean whatsoever?
Speaker 2: You get the Bears at over under eight.
Speaker 1: Now from what I saw, if I remember correctly, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to look back at my older notes, I think
Speaker 1: they might have been at eight and a half at
Speaker 1: one point. I think money came in on the under.
Speaker 1: The Lions have kind of bounced back and forth between
Speaker 1: six and a half and seven. They're kind of a
Speaker 1: frisky team, given that their offense at least really opened
Speaker 1: it up last year before Matthew Stafford got hurt. They
Speaker 1: were in all those games in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: season before I went down. Do you have any lean
Speaker 1: either ran the Bears over under eight or the Lions.
Speaker 1: Let's call it over under seven. That's the consensusize, but
Speaker 1: there are plenty of six and a half's out there
Speaker 1: any meaning on either of those totals.
Speaker 3: If you want to trail the professional money, the professional
Speaker 3: money is on the Detroit Lions. There is a ton
Speaker 3: of hype in the professional betting circles on this new offense,
Speaker 3: the arm of Matthew Stafford, and like you mentioned, a
Speaker 3: bunch of one score games they lost last year. So
Speaker 3: the over on the Lions is an extremely popular play
Speaker 3: here in Vegas with the professional sports gamblers to put
Speaker 3: up at least an eight and eight season, And frankly,
Speaker 3: I don't hate it. I mean it's, yeah, I understand
Speaker 3: the logic, and it's a big year for Stafford. It's
Speaker 3: a big opportunity for him to put up to some
Speaker 3: big numbers. So over on the Lions, yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: it's juiced pretty heavily towards the over, because yeah, I
Speaker 3: imagine it's coming in.
Speaker 1: I just it's their defense man like their offense. I like,
Speaker 1: you know, I do like Stafford. If the ore bubble,
Speaker 1: if they if they are going to employ you know,
Speaker 1: letting him, you know, toss it downfield much more than
Speaker 1: you do. They've got Galladay, They've got Jones, I don't mind.
Speaker 1: Danny Amandola might be my seven year old's favorite player.
Speaker 3: T J.
Speaker 1: Hockinson obviously dealing with the ankle injury, but he's really talented.
Speaker 1: They just gave Decker that the big money on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, so you know, that's okay. The defense for me,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, They got no pressure, no turnovers.
Speaker 2: Last year they traded Darius Slay, They've added Jeff Akuda.
Speaker 1: That's what kind of you know, I understand trailing sort
Speaker 1: of the sharp money for me though, that one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I just you know, I don't know their
Speaker 1: defense really, it's what wears me.
Speaker 2: Patricia's you know, coaching first job at this.
Speaker 3: I totally agree with that. They've got it and he
Speaker 3: knows it too, and that's why they drafted you know,
Speaker 3: Akuda in the first round or as they did. They
Speaker 3: know they have no secondary whatsoever, so you know, people
Speaker 3: have thought maybe they might go defensive linemen or maybe
Speaker 3: they go offense, but they hadn't. They had to go
Speaker 3: and address something with that secondary, and that's why they
Speaker 3: went and got him and hopefully he stays healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's to the NFC South here,
Speaker 1: Saints are over under ten and a half.
Speaker 2: That's a big number.
Speaker 1: Bucks are over under nine and a half, Falcons over
Speaker 1: under seven and a half. That's just toward the under,
Speaker 1: and the Panthers over under five and a half also
Speaker 1: just a little bit towards the under. So you know,
Speaker 1: we can start with the Saints or you can just
Speaker 1: tell me your favorite bet, because I'm having trouble with
Speaker 1: the Saints, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: And there's these rumors today.
Speaker 1: Obviously, first, you know, maybe we just will go into
Speaker 1: the Saints because you've got Alvin Kamara who's been dealing with,
Speaker 1: you know, contract issues. Maybe he also apparently had an
Speaker 1: epidural shot recently. And now there's all these rumors today
Speaker 1: about I don't know where they're going to get the
Speaker 1: cap space for it, but maybe them signing Jadavian Clowney.
Speaker 1: So I guess, how do you view the Saints the
Speaker 1: big number, you've got no fans probably going to be there,
Speaker 1: although I don't technically know if they've made that decision
Speaker 1: for the full season or anything like that. But how
Speaker 1: do you view a team like the Saints is going
Speaker 1: to be a really good football team going for it?
Speaker 1: There one last year, big number. Losing kind of the
Speaker 1: home field advantage a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are losing the home field, but the turf
Speaker 3: is so fast and they're so This is one of
Speaker 3: the teams that I think in this year you go
Speaker 3: with the over, and the reason is because you have
Speaker 3: the star quarterback, a veteran quarterback, and a veteran coach.
Speaker 3: They've got all the continuity that you would want. They've
Speaker 3: got everything you would need. They don't need preseason games,
Speaker 3: they don't need to practice. They know what to do.
Speaker 3: They've got Michael Thomas that they know how to I mean,
Speaker 3: I Thinkamar is going to come in and play really well.
Speaker 3: They've got all the weapons. I have no problem betting
Speaker 3: on the Saints to win this division, to go twelve
Speaker 3: and four and win this division, and I think that
Speaker 3: they're probably the team that comes out of the NFC
Speaker 3: in plays in the Super Bowl. I just think they've
Speaker 3: got such a huge advantage because they don't have to
Speaker 3: worry about implementing anything. It's just trying to pick up
Speaker 3: where they left off last year and keep going. So
Speaker 3: adding Cloinney would be great. They get more defensive pressure,
Speaker 3: get more edge rushing. I think, get after the quarterback,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna need it with some of the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: in their division. But I like the Saints on the over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Matt and I are you know, we chat offline,
Speaker 1: you know, even when we're not doing these podcasts. And
Speaker 1: I was in this Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association cool
Speaker 1: draft several months ago where we got to draft our wagers,
Speaker 1: so you can do it on player props or you
Speaker 1: could do it on odds, and I went with a
Speaker 1: little more risky strategy. I had the first of our
Speaker 1: all pick and my first pick of any bet I
Speaker 1: could take was the Saints at ten to want to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, because this is a team, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, that is just absolutely built.
Speaker 2: This is the year. I mean, this is it.
Speaker 1: They are just forfeiting their cap, you know, space for
Speaker 1: future years.
Speaker 2: This is their year. I like them a lot. I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm personally not concerned necessarily about the crowd noise. Again,
Speaker 1: it is a fast turf, but again, they don't need anything.
Speaker 1: I love the addition of Manual Sanders. I mean, everybody,
Speaker 1: all of our fantasy guys tease me about them.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect edition that you need, right
Speaker 1: now a safety valve for him. Get a little help
Speaker 1: off of off of Michael Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then tre Quon Smith.
Speaker 1: Is apparently having a really really good camp, So they
Speaker 1: could be really exciting.
Speaker 2: And defensively they're solid.
Speaker 1: And remember they got injured down you know, Sheldon Rangets
Speaker 1: I got injured down the stretch last year with their defense.
Speaker 1: Talk to me about your bucks, Your bucks, I say,
Speaker 1: Brady and yours are.
Speaker 3: So here's here's my philosophy. They're gonna be a playoff team. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're gonna win ten games. I bet them over nine
Speaker 3: and a half. I think they win ten games. I
Speaker 3: know ten and six is difficult, but I think they
Speaker 3: do win ten games. I think their their schedule sets
Speaker 3: up well for them to go ahead and win ten games.
Speaker 3: I don't think they win a playoff game. I think
Speaker 3: they lose in the playoffs. And I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: have you know, Brady is gonna be Brady. They're gonna
Speaker 3: put up good numbers. Gronk. I think he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a big red zone year. I think he's gonna catch
Speaker 3: a bunch of touchdowns. I think you're gonna see Brady
Speaker 3: throw for a big number I think you're gonna have.
Speaker 3: I don't think Leonard Fournette does anything for this team,
Speaker 3: except for if they actually signed him because he's good
Speaker 3: at pass blocking. There's something really wrong with that for
Speaker 3: a guy who was a top five pick in the
Speaker 3: NFL draft four years ago. So that's not great. But
Speaker 3: I think they like Ronald Jones a lot. I'm a
Speaker 3: little concerned about the offensive line keeping Brady upright and
Speaker 3: keeping him healthy, and I think they've gotta They can't
Speaker 3: run the traditional Bruce arians hold on to the football
Speaker 3: for four seconds offense, he'll get I mean we saw
Speaker 3: with Winston he got killed. Brady won't make it to
Speaker 3: reach to weak eight. The only thing about their schedule
Speaker 3: that scares me is how late their buy is. They
Speaker 3: gotta play a lot of games. I think is twelve
Speaker 3: consecutive games before their bye week. Yeah, keeping Brady healthy
Speaker 3: for that long, I'm concerned about that, but I think
Speaker 3: they go ten and six. I don't think they want
Speaker 3: to win much in the playoffs, but I do think
Speaker 3: they win a wild card.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not that you know, Look, I don't think
Speaker 1: you bringing a guy like Brady at you know, given
Speaker 1: his age, given his stature, given his skill level, and say,
Speaker 1: you are coming into this offensive system and you will
Speaker 1: do things the way Jamis Winston right at it, right, Like,
Speaker 1: that's just not how it's gonna be. I don't view
Speaker 1: him as basically being like, Hey, you're gonna hang in
Speaker 1: there for four seconds and you're gonna wait for this
Speaker 1: play to develop. That's not who Brady is necessarily if
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the line, he's too smart a quarterback.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not betting it.
Speaker 1: I'm not betting it because it just it seems like
Speaker 1: such a public play, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: To love what it is. Yeah, it was ten for
Speaker 3: a little while, and then it came down because the
Speaker 3: public was betting it up, and then the pros came
Speaker 3: in on the under.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you know the Falcons? Do you have
Speaker 1: any lean either way on the Falcons?
Speaker 3: You know it's funny. I hear a lot of you guys,
Speaker 3: and you know more about this space than I would.
Speaker 3: With the fantasy about Matt Ryan having a monster season,
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of hype around this offense to
Speaker 3: put up some huge numbers in Julio Jones is going
Speaker 3: to do incredible things. So I tailed it all my
Speaker 3: own fantasies. I mean I drafted Julio Jones in the
Speaker 3: second round, so I mean I tailed that hype around
Speaker 3: around where we are here for this offense. But I
Speaker 3: just don't know about this defense, and I think the
Speaker 3: division's pretty difficult for them. So I don't have a
Speaker 3: play on it per se, But I think there's going
Speaker 3: to be a lot of points scored for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't love the over on seven and a half.
Speaker 1: I do think that their offense is going to be really,
Speaker 1: really good. I think another year undercutter. I love the
Speaker 1: addition of Hayden Hurst. I think Calvin Ridley develops really well.
Speaker 1: They've got twelve of their sixteen games in domes. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like that's like Matt Ryan's bread and butter.
Speaker 1: So I do think the offense is going to be
Speaker 1: get The offensive line is going to be a lot better,
Speaker 1: and again the defense really is just it's always injured.
Speaker 2: You know, every year.
Speaker 1: Their defense should be okay if they're you know there,
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily know how good of a team
Speaker 1: they're going to be. Fantasy wise, Yeah, absolutely, get get
Speaker 1: every piece of that offense that you can get, but
Speaker 1: I don't love.
Speaker 2: Again, they have a tough schedule. It's just not you know,
Speaker 2: that's a tough division. It's not there.
Speaker 1: What about the Panthers out of curiosity over under five
Speaker 1: and a half? I lean a little bit, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest towards the under here again, this is something where
Speaker 1: again as with Brady buying week thirteen here, that's a
Speaker 1: really long time. This is a new team, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about, right, this is not the year to have
Speaker 1: the new coach and the new coordinator and the new quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Everything is new here, even
Speaker 1: Broaden and Robbie Anderson. They drafted all defensive players like
Speaker 1: throughout the entire thing, so the defense is very young.
Speaker 1: It's just something where I think it's going to take them,
Speaker 1: you know, after Luke Kei Lee retired, it's going to
Speaker 1: take them a while to find their footing offensively and defensively.
Speaker 1: And I think, especially with such a late buy a
Speaker 1: tough division, not a great team, you know kind of
Speaker 1: what Matt rules sort of the whole thing is he
Speaker 1: comes in their first year is terrible and then he
Speaker 1: heaes around Roys.
Speaker 3: That's what that guy, dude, He is literally going to
Speaker 3: come in and burn this thing to the round. Okay,
Speaker 3: that is what he's been told to do. That's why
Speaker 3: he took the job, because he wanted to come in.
Speaker 3: They're gonna stink, They're gonna be I mean, I got
Speaker 3: an argument with somebody about the Raiders in Week one
Speaker 3: and the Raiders are favored by two and a half points,
Speaker 3: and they're like, how in the world the Raiders favored.
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you realize what Matt Rule is gonna do?
Speaker 3: They have Teddy Bridgewater. They're gonna run McCaffrey into the
Speaker 3: ground like he is going to be so tired by
Speaker 3: the end. He'll be a great fantasy guy because his
Speaker 3: usage rate's going to be through the roof. But that's it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all they've got. I mean they've lost leadership,
Speaker 3: like you mentioned with Keith Lee retiring. They don't want
Speaker 3: to win football games. They want to be right back
Speaker 3: where they were last year. They want to be right
Speaker 3: back at the top of the draft. They want to
Speaker 3: be right there restalking because it's all about year three
Speaker 3: and four for Matt Rule. This is a wash of
Speaker 3: a season for the Panther. They have no desire to
Speaker 3: be competitive if they win four games. I will be
Speaker 3: floored if they win four games. I mean maybe I'm
Speaker 3: lower on Bridgewater than other people, but new quarterback, new
Speaker 3: system in COVID, with the with the mantra to come
Speaker 3: in and do a complete rebuild. Yeah, they're gonna be bad.
Speaker 3: Really Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do like Bridgewater personally as a quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: he's a competent NFL quarterback. I think they have a
Speaker 1: lot of interesting pieces. As you said, offensively, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously McCaffrey, I love DJ Moore, I like.
Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson generally speaking.
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel apparently has had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: rough camp, but he's, you know, kind of talent.
Speaker 2: They could do things offensively, but there's just no way.
Speaker 2: There's just no way when you're bringing in back.
Speaker 1: They, like you said, nobody is expecting this team to
Speaker 1: put up all that much of a fight. You've got,
Speaker 1: you know, no fans, there's gonna be no juice. They
Speaker 1: they've got so long before they're gonna get in. So
Speaker 1: to the extent there's a play, there are two plays.
Speaker 1: I guess I like a little bit. I lean towards
Speaker 1: the Saints over as you do, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're with me here.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: I like the I like the Panthers under to be honest,
Speaker 1: five and a half. That's a play that I've I've
Speaker 1: made already, and I'm feeling pretty common. It's just really
Speaker 1: difficult this look.
Speaker 3: At that role at at Temple year one in Baylor
Speaker 3: in year one and.
Speaker 2: Look three and twenty one, I believe is his record.
Speaker 3: He just kicked every kid out. He just went through
Speaker 3: the He's like, you're gone, You're gone, You're gone, You're gone.
Speaker 3: He just weeded out the entire team and replaced them
Speaker 3: with his own recruits. So he's gonna do the same
Speaker 3: thing where he wants young kids, as you mentioned, drafted
Speaker 3: young with it with the defense. He wants to bring
Speaker 3: in guys who I've never played in the NFL, who
Speaker 3: are going to look up to him and go like, Okay, guy,
Speaker 3: I'm here to play for you. He's a big about
Speaker 3: like this is my guy type of coach. And so anybody,
Speaker 3: any veteran left over, any guy on the tail end
Speaker 3: of his career, you should probably just like start planning
Speaker 3: on playing for somebody else next year, because you're not
Speaker 3: gonna be there after this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it all right.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our last division here, NFC West forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers. Again another high over under. Obviously, they made
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl over under ten and a half. Just
Speaker 1: a little bit towards the under. Seahawks over under nine
Speaker 1: and a half also, du justed a little bit towards
Speaker 1: the under. Ram over under eight and a half also
Speaker 1: just a little bit towards the under, and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: over under seven just a little bit towards the over.
Speaker 1: So what do you like here?
Speaker 3: This isn't really interesting division, right because you got continuity
Speaker 3: all over this division. You got Pete Carroll and you've
Speaker 3: got Russell Wilson. You got the team that went to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year in the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: I mean, heck, even the Cardinals of continuity. Really, I
Speaker 3: mean it's year two of Kyler Murray Cliff Kingsbury. But they,
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna keep building on what they're building.
Speaker 3: I love the Cardinals. I mean, maybe I'm just a
Speaker 3: really I like Cliff Kingsbury a lot. I love the swagger.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Kyler Murray fan. And the fact that
Speaker 3: they got DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, you kidding me. I
Speaker 3: think Christian Kirk might have a good year coming up here.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna run the ball well. I mean,
Speaker 3: the fact that they were able to trade David Johnson
Speaker 3: and flip him into what they got, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: just for I mean, they had, they had a killer
Speaker 3: off season. So I'm on the over for the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody wants to play these guys. Their
Speaker 3: defense needs to get much better. I understand that, but
Speaker 3: I think Murray's going to be a real problem to
Speaker 3: stop in the NFL, and having Hopkins to throw to,
Speaker 3: He's gonna stretch the defense. I'm really excited to watch
Speaker 3: the Cardinals and then the forty nine ers are gonna
Speaker 3: be really interesting. That numbers is too large. Everyone's saying
Speaker 3: that Garoppolo is killing in a camp everyone. Everything that
Speaker 3: I'm reading from the media in San Francisco is that,
Speaker 3: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo is just spinning the ball really
Speaker 3: well and looks totally different this year and really competent.
Speaker 3: After losing the Super Bowl, he wants to prove that
Speaker 3: throw he didn't hit won't happen again, right, But I
Speaker 3: think the numbers is a little bit too steep for
Speaker 3: me to go down. And then I mean, everyone loves
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. I guess if I had to play in
Speaker 3: this division, it probably would be on the over for
Speaker 3: the Seahawks, simply because of the continuity with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3: But the defense is a question for me when it
Speaker 3: comes to the Seahawks. So Wilson, I think is gonna
Speaker 3: have a big year. I just don't know if that
Speaker 3: means ten wins. That seems like a really big number
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks.
Speaker 1: The thing about the Seahawks is, and it's probably just
Speaker 1: because of Wilson. Now, I can't imagine how good they
Speaker 1: might be if they just let him do his thing
Speaker 1: right off the bat instead of doing like run on
Speaker 1: first down, run on second down, third and seven. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, now it's the fourth quarter and we're
Speaker 1: down by thirteen points. You know, Russ, go do your thing.
Speaker 2: Ten wins.
Speaker 1: They're not a tenmen team when you look at their
Speaker 1: entire team, and today there are reports that they signed
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. They're not a ten win team.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The defense just isn't there. But I'm not gonna bet
Speaker 1: the under because it's it's Russell Wilson. So this is
Speaker 1: a team we just talked about it. This is one
Speaker 1: of the biggest home field advantages, you know, and so
Speaker 1: what happens to that without that crowd noise?
Speaker 3: Well, the rain of the westfield, by the way, is
Speaker 3: that still I think?
Speaker 2: So I can't remember at this point all the time,
Speaker 2: but go ahead.
Speaker 3: No, I just I think the rain in the atmosphere
Speaker 3: still is factoring in there. It's a cold and damp
Speaker 3: and nasty place to play football. So that's there. Again,
Speaker 3: we don't know what the piped in crowd noise is
Speaker 3: going to sound like. And everyone talks about the fact
Speaker 3: the way that stadium is built that the overhang keeps
Speaker 3: the sound down, so maybe pumping in crowd noise makes
Speaker 3: it more difficult to play there. I still think it's
Speaker 3: a hard place to play. You gotta fly all the
Speaker 3: way across the country to the top corner of the
Speaker 3: of the West coast, and so I still think that
Speaker 3: it's not easy to play there, even if the crowd
Speaker 3: is not going to be allowed in at any point
Speaker 3: in time. But I just, man, it's hard, it's tough.
Speaker 3: It's a tough number to go ahead, and lay to
Speaker 3: have that team win ten games given the fact that
Speaker 3: their six division games are tough. They're not easy to play.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's CenturyLink Field. I just like that
Speaker 1: just to make sure my bad on that one. I
Speaker 1: can never keep up with the.
Speaker 3: Well CENTERLNK bought Quest because when I was in Omaha, Nebraska,
Speaker 3: it was the Quest Center, and then century Link bought
Speaker 3: out Quest and it became the century Link Center, and
Speaker 3: then Central Links sold to Chai Center and now it's
Speaker 3: called the Chai Center. So yeah, it's very hard to
Speaker 3: keep up with.
Speaker 1: The I will just call it the place where the
Speaker 1: Seahawks play football. So this entire division for me, and
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on the Rams before in
Speaker 1: a second, but this entire division, to me, it's just
Speaker 1: to stay away. Like I do not have a good
Speaker 1: feel for any of these teams. Forty nine ers are
Speaker 1: are great. Like you said, you want continuity, that's what
Speaker 1: you've got. They've also got absolutely nobody to throw the
Speaker 1: ball to at the moment, and except for George Kittle,
Speaker 1: And maybe that's not a huge deal, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the forty nine ers run the ball a ton.
Speaker 1: They still have most Earth. They still have Tevin Coleman,
Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon apparently looks fantastic you know in camp. But
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel maybe he's gonna play, Maybe he's gonna wind
Speaker 1: up on the pup Lisy.
Speaker 2: We really don't know. At this point.
Speaker 1: Brandon Nayuk is dealing with injuries, you know. Even they
Speaker 1: just signed Tevon Austin now he's on ir Not that
Speaker 1: that makes that big a difference.
Speaker 2: So I get a little word and again, ten wins.
Speaker 2: We talked about that number. Eleven wins is a real thing.
Speaker 2: I like it for the Saints four nine ers.
Speaker 1: It's something where if I were forced, I would go over,
Speaker 1: But it's not something where I want to go to
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Same deal.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a ten win team, but I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna bet against Russell Wilson because he always makes
Speaker 1: that team better. I don't think he's had a losing
Speaker 1: year since he's been in the league. Maybe five hundred year,
Speaker 1: but certainly not a losing year. And the Cardinals, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I could at one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: See this being a holy f year for that offense,
Speaker 2: like you really could. I love Kenyon Drake.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you, and again, I'm a fantasy guy.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how I was when Drake started
Speaker 1: bawling out in Arizona and that they kept him because
Speaker 1: I have loved Drake's talent every year. I've called him
Speaker 1: a sleeper in fantasy with the Dolphins. Unfortunately, Gates just
Speaker 1: like wouldn't let him go. I love Drake there. I
Speaker 1: love the addition of DeAndre Hopkins. Look, Larry Fitzgerald is
Speaker 1: still there, you know what I mean. They have been
Speaker 1: better on the offensive line, obviously, Christian Kirk you mentioned
Speaker 1: and Andy Isabella is having a nice camp my school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that their offense is going to be really really like exciting.
Speaker 2: And I like Murray a lot. I like his talent.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's gonna definitely be able to improve,
Speaker 1: just generally speaking as a quarterback. I don't love the defense,
Speaker 1: and it's a tough schedule and it's just something where
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I can see him at seven.
Speaker 2: I don't, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I could see betting the over because it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to see them going six and ten or worse. Right,
Speaker 1: you feel like seven to nine is probably the worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, so I could definitely see going over. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you about the Rams, okay, because I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a completely for no reason whatsoever, and
Speaker 1: a rational like favoritism of the Rams because I've talked
Speaker 1: about it with our guys and we've all made the
Speaker 1: over unders and they're all on the under at eight
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: How do you feel right now about the Rams?
Speaker 3: All right? So here's the thing about Jared Goff. He
Speaker 3: plays incredibly well at home. Now why would that be.
Speaker 3: He plays well at home because he has his coach
Speaker 3: in his ear and his coach can tell him where
Speaker 3: to go with the football. And this is his road
Speaker 3: splits are the most insane road in home splits of
Speaker 3: any quarterback in the NFL. He plays horrendously on the road.
Speaker 3: Crowd noise, he can't hear. He can't hear his coach
Speaker 3: telling him what to do. He's going to be able
Speaker 3: to hear his coach telling him what to do in
Speaker 3: all sixteen games. I am very interested to see what
Speaker 3: Jared Goff does this year without fans and stands, and
Speaker 3: what he might look like this season. He might have
Speaker 3: a good year, and if his receivers stay healthy, he
Speaker 3: May that might be one of those teams that we're
Speaker 3: talking about going how are they? Kind of like last
Speaker 3: year when we were just talking about earlier with the
Speaker 3: team that winds up winning a bunch of games because
Speaker 3: of one score games like the Packers. The Rams might
Speaker 3: be this year's Packers, bad football team, but a really
Speaker 3: good record because they get breaks and they get the bounces.
Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, I would bet the over.
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna buy the Curse of Hard Knocks
Speaker 3: simply because it's two teams on Hard Knocks, not one
Speaker 3: team this year for Hard Knocks.
Speaker 2: If it was one, though, you'd buy it.
Speaker 3: You'd be like that, well, there is something to say
Speaker 3: for because everyone talks about Hard Knock. But if you've heard, like,
Speaker 3: honest question, have you had a casual conversation about Hard
Speaker 3: Knocks with anybody yet this year? No, no one's paying
Speaker 3: attention to Hard Knocks. It's boring. The show stinks this year,
Speaker 3: by the way. It's boring and confusing. I love watching
Speaker 3: I still watch it, but I more watch it for
Speaker 3: the protocols for COVID nineteen and how big of a
Speaker 3: distraction it's going to be for the players. So I'm
Speaker 3: not watching it for the typical like who is that
Speaker 3: eighth you know, that that seventh round pick who might
Speaker 3: make the roster, or who's that un undrafted rookie he
Speaker 3: was trying to make it like all those storylines. I
Speaker 3: just feel like America is like we're dealing with some
Speaker 3: real crap right now. We don't care about training cap
Speaker 3: like we don't have time to talk about hard knocks
Speaker 3: or watch hard knocks, Like we're dealing with some reality
Speaker 3: stuff right now, not reality TV. So but I would
Speaker 3: not sleep on the Rams given what Jared Goff I
Speaker 3: think is going to be able to do thanks to
Speaker 3: his head coach, who I think is a vial. I
Speaker 3: think Sean McVay is still a very good coach.
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is for me.
Speaker 1: I think I just I'm like, you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: they went nine and seven last year, right and even
Speaker 1: though they had a really tough schedule, they have a
Speaker 1: bad offensive line, and their offensive line was legitimately like, okay,
Speaker 1: this guy's down. Let me sign a guy off the
Speaker 1: street right now to somehow protect our golf. And Jared
Speaker 1: Goff doesn't do well with pressure, Like we know that
Speaker 1: towards the second half of the season, especially at the
Speaker 1: last like five or six games, they switched to a
Speaker 1: lot of twelve personnal. That's when you saw Tyler Higby
Speaker 1: coming on. If you know, from what I've heard of
Speaker 1: hard knocks and again it no casual conversation, but I've
Speaker 1: heard there's been, you know, some rumblings that they're gonna
Speaker 1: stick with this.
Speaker 2: And again they lost Brandon.
Speaker 1: Cook, so they can go with assuming that Cooper Cupp
Speaker 1: is healthy. I know he's been dealing with a little
Speaker 1: bit of something, but you know you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have Tyler Higbye. I love Robert Woods as a player.
Speaker 1: I think offensively, I think, you know, you give McVeagh
Speaker 1: an entire offseason. I think he's gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we obviously this, we need to fix this.
Speaker 2: What was happening right now? We need to fix this.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll just stick again, Maybe they'll say the twelve
Speaker 1: personnel work, so we're gonna do it. And Gerald Everett
Speaker 1: apparently is having a nice camp too, So I think
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna better, the defense not great.
Speaker 2: They obviously still have a couple of huge pieces in
Speaker 2: Ramsey and Donald and everything like that.
Speaker 3: But I love Ramsey in that secondary being hungry on
Speaker 3: a contract year. So look, you have Aaron Donald. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've got the best defensive player in the game now,
Speaker 3: so he destroys offensive lines, he destroys literally.
Speaker 1: Though, that's the only guy who I think can get
Speaker 1: consistent pressure.
Speaker 2: I mean it might not matter.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they literally may just be like, nah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna triple team this dude, and we're gonna just
Speaker 1: see whether or not anybody.
Speaker 2: Else can possibly break through and get pressure. That's the
Speaker 2: only thing. It's a weird defense where you've got these
Speaker 2: two elite, really elite players and everybody else. For the
Speaker 2: most part, it is kind of like, eh, okay, pretty good. Though,
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 1: They did lose Wade Phillips, don't forget like now as
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, right, I'm not sure how Brandon Staley
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know.
Speaker 2: Do with the defense.
Speaker 1: There are question marks. There are certainly question marks. But
Speaker 1: I do think and again, maybe this is just sort
Speaker 1: of saying I just have faith in Sean McVay. But
Speaker 1: I've been talking about it with our guys because you know,
Speaker 1: we do some over unders. They've all been on the
Speaker 1: under and they are teasing me because I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with.
Speaker 2: The over and I feel okay.
Speaker 1: But again, last year, really tough schedule, completely decimated offensive line,
Speaker 1: Tara Goff.
Speaker 2: Played pretty terribly overall, and they still went nine and seven.
Speaker 2: I just think, you you know what I mean, they
Speaker 2: can win nine games even with this division if you know,
Speaker 2: McVeigh can sort of spend some time figuring it out.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't like that their crossover is the
Speaker 3: NFC East, but it's not that horrible. I mean, they
Speaker 3: their first road game is at Philadelphia. That's not gonna
Speaker 3: be easy. They're at Buffalo back to back weeks. But
Speaker 3: then it gets easier. They play the Giants and the
Speaker 3: Washington football team.
Speaker 2: Those those are victories well done by the way.
Speaker 3: Yes, that they're at sam Fran which is hard, but
Speaker 3: then they play the Bears, the Dolphins. They have a
Speaker 3: bye before the Seattle Seahawks come to town. That's great.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch the Rams at Tampa. That's
Speaker 3: gonna be a must see TV game on Monday Night football.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be monstrous. And then the thing, you know,
Speaker 3: they got the Patriots coming in. They got the Jets
Speaker 3: coming in. You know, those aren't easy. I mean, Jets
Speaker 3: are easy game, but the Patriots are. We'll see what
Speaker 3: they look like in Week fourteen. But I just I
Speaker 3: can find nine wins for this football team just given
Speaker 3: their continuity and give it again, look at Jared Goff's
Speaker 3: road in home splits. He's gonna be able to hear
Speaker 3: his coach without having any crowd noise to worry about.
Speaker 3: So I think that's a real sneaky factor here for
Speaker 3: the Rams and how well their offense might perform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, this is a This is a bet
Speaker 1: that I don't you know, it's just towards the under.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you can get the over at
Speaker 1: a pretty decent price, and that's where I've been going.
Speaker 1: I you know, I'll be honest, I don't have much
Speaker 1: support among my cronies who also started put in the overrunners,
Speaker 1: but I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with it.
Speaker 1: That's right, And you like your favorite play here is
Speaker 1: the Cardinals over seven, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be if I'm gonna bet one. I
Speaker 3: haven't bet it yet, but if if I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: ahead and bet it that, that's that's what I would
Speaker 3: bet is the over on that.
Speaker 1: Okay, well done. So here is what we have next week.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna drop the details too much,
Speaker 1: but Matt and I an a couple of you're probably
Speaker 1: familiar with them, a couple of i'll say, high stakes
Speaker 1: contest where we're going to be making some picks.
Speaker 2: Each week.
Speaker 1: We're each going to be talking about at five picks
Speaker 1: that we're going to want to make. And again, this
Speaker 1: may be something we're roll over lap. We'll give you
Speaker 1: more than five, but we're going to give you certainly
Speaker 1: gonna put our money where our mouth is, definitely with
Speaker 1: all these picks.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a fun season. We are
Speaker 2: both really really excited.
Speaker 1: About it, and not just because, oh my god, there
Speaker 1: is football in a week from today.
Speaker 2: As we record this.
Speaker 1: It is going to be amazing. Matt, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 1: Are you ready, buddy, You're ready one more?
Speaker 3: I'm ready. The Daily Juice audience is ready. We're all
Speaker 3: fired up and counting down the days. I mean, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: the college football this coming weekend is not going to
Speaker 3: be all that entertaining. It's pretty boring. But once we
Speaker 3: get through the Labor Day weekend. It's all systems go,
Speaker 3: and we got real football for both the college and
Speaker 3: the pro ranks to get rock and it's just going
Speaker 3: to be so much fun. And I am fingers crossed
Speaker 3: that we play Thursday. Please play Thursday. I'm so nervous
Speaker 3: about not playing Thursday night for the Chiefs and the Texans.
Speaker 2: I'm just don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm hoping it's happening, because I'm really I'm hoping.
Speaker 3: I just have some feeling that Shaun Watson and Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes an't gonna play, and I'm gonna be really upset.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine, I hope.
Speaker 3: So just my friends in Houston are warning me, and
Speaker 3: I'm getting so scared.
Speaker 1: So let's hope you take that negativity, you throw it
Speaker 1: out the window. But Daily Juice, yes, go listen to
Speaker 1: it seriously.
Speaker 2: It's great. Matt does a fifteen minute.
Speaker 1: Podcast available for you every morning, breaking down his best
Speaker 1: bets of the next day. It is really entertaining. It
Speaker 1: is really good, and Matt's been doing pretty well of late,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: Last of late.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so anyway, we'll be back next
Speaker 1: week breaking down our Week one picks. Do not forget
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be
Speaker 1: Back again, as I said, next week, so we'll talk
Speaker 1: to you them, sad