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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. Adie

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Speaker 1: with me is Matt Parole, host of the Daily Juice podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt.

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Speaker 2: Matt. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, we are rapidly approaching the start of the NFL season,

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Speaker 3: so I am extremely excited that we actually can talk football,

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Speaker 3: and not just hypothetical football, but real football, real soon

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Speaker 3: around the corner.

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt like this was never gonna come,

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Speaker 1: like agree so far away, and then you know, you

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Speaker 1: obviously had all the health concerns and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, we've got NHL playoffs, we've

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Speaker 1: got NBA playoffs, we've got MLB, and now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have NFL and it's gonna be a little bit like

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Speaker 1: sports Mecca.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's really neat. It's really fun when you throw in

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Speaker 3: the PGA to what we saw for the playoffs for

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Speaker 3: the now come up with the tour champion and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of how bad things were in

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Speaker 3: to remind myself and everybody around me, like, let's stick

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Speaker 3: right now, because yes, twenty twenty is a horrible year,

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Speaker 3: but we will never ever see anything like this in

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Speaker 3: terms of the month of August and September. In October again,

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Speaker 3: I mean college football, NFL football, all the other playoffs

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Speaker 3: going on at the same time. It's quite a remarkable time.

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Speaker 1: Just makes things seem a little easier when we have

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Speaker 1: something else to focus on. So let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Last week we did the AFC preview. Today we are

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Speaker 1: going to do the NFC preview, and the next week

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Speaker 1: we are into the season.

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Speaker 2: We've got an exciting.

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Speaker 1: Program that we're going to be giving you, but we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that more next week. As usual, we are

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Speaker 1: going to be using the consensus over under win totals

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Speaker 1: over at bettingpros dot com. Those are the aggregate of

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Speaker 1: the odds that are available in the market. As always,

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Speaker 1: one o one. All right, Matt, Not every bet that

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about today. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: quite that easy.

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Speaker 2: But be a better world for us.

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Speaker 3: If it were, it would be fun it was.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the NFC East here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you've got the Cowboys leaning the way it over

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Speaker 1: under nine and a half. That's just heavily towards the over,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles which are now over under nine, the Giants

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Speaker 1: over under six, juiced a little bit towards the under,

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Speaker 1: and Washington over under five.

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Speaker 2: Just a little bit toward the over.

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Speaker 1: So what are you thinking here as we head rapidly

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Speaker 3: All right, look, I know that you're a big fantasy guy,

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Speaker 3: so Saquon Barkley's gonna have a gigantic year, But I'm

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Speaker 3: not a very big believer in that offense. Otherwise, not

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Speaker 3: very big believer in rookie head coaches in the middle

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Speaker 3: of COVID. So I've kind of taken the stance that

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Speaker 3: you're gonna fade first year head coaches in this COVID

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty strong on the under here for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I think they're a five win football team at MAX

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Speaker 3: and I just Joe Judge is barely I mean, I

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Speaker 3: mean I'm older than Joe Judge. Okay, so he's just

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Speaker 3: everybody's come out of the Patriot tree. The former coaches

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Speaker 3: Different story. I'm on the under for the Giants.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. It's not just the new head coach.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's the new offensive coordinator, right, Jason Garrett, new

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Speaker 1: I mean they are basically rebuilding the entire thing. That's

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Speaker 1: Now here's the one thing I'm gonna say. They get

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Speaker 2: Got the Bengals in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: We don't expect the Bengals to be very good. They've

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Speaker 1: Brutal opener too, right, a brutal opening schedule where they're

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Speaker 1: Right alson, Jeffrey is not going to play at the start.

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Speaker 1: They've already got two massive injuries to their offensive line

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about them at over under nine?

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Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, I would bet the

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Speaker 3: under because I think this entire division it's probably a

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Speaker 3: the under. I don't like any of these teams, to

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Speaker 3: be quite honest, I don't like the Cowboys. I don't

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Speaker 2: Heuse almost cut, Yeah, you cut yourself.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like any of them. I just I

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Speaker 3: And I've never been a big Dak Prescott fan. I

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Speaker 3: So I don't like any of these win totals. To

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Speaker 1: Let me ask something, If you really do view not

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Speaker 1: not be you know you're getting plus money right now,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of excitement build thing. They

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Speaker 1: they've got an exciting offense, and you know, McCarthy, for

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Speaker 1: all his flaws, he is leaving the offensive system in

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Speaker 1: So if you do think of it that way, why

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Speaker 1: aren't you kind of feeling the Cowboys under nine and

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Speaker 1: least are plus one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Six games against the NFC East.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's why that's civil as that.

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Speaker 3: Huh, because they are playing other teams in the division

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Speaker 3: were bad and so if they go six to zero

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Speaker 3: in their division, that's six wins and now all the

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Speaker 3: my concern with both betting the under for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Is it Like I mentioned, I think the entire division's bad,

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Speaker 3: So I'm concerned. I'm concerned about you know, bad teams

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Speaker 2: Though no, I completely agree.

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Speaker 1: But again, you know, I'm more talking about them, not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm gonna bet that the Giant un I'll

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Speaker 1: I see a lot of six and a half's out there,

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Speaker 3: All right, So, a couple of years ago, the then

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Speaker 3: They lucked their way into a couple of crazy wins

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Speaker 3: They didn't invest in the wide receiving core the way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you where my trouble is. And again

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Speaker 2: Do you kind of reverse that and it goes really well?

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Speaker 2: And you brought up the Raiders as well. This is

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Speaker 1: I mean I completely get it. Like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I like, you know you've got mbag in college, right.

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Speaker 2: It's it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's not something that I completely love necessarily. What about

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Speaker 3: See? The reason why I would stay away from the

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Speaker 3: almost unplayable because you don't know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: If this was a typical year, I would say they're

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Speaker 3: gonna run the rock. They're gonna ask Kirk Cousins to

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Speaker 3: But I would stay away from this simply because I

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Speaker 3: and I'm not so sure the Vikings are gonna play

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely want to dive into that a little

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Speaker 1: more in terms of how it affects your feelings on

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: Any feeling either way, any lean either way, or just

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Speaker 3: I would stay away. Yeah. I wouldn't go anywhere near

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Speaker 3: going nine and seven, or you know, maybe you bet

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Speaker 3: If you bet the over and you hope to you know,

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Speaker 3: hope they win nine. But I just again, without knowing

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Speaker 3: you can accurately gauge what a Viking year will look

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about the other two teams? Any lean whatsoever?

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Speaker 2: You get the Bears at over under eight.

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Speaker 1: Now from what I saw, if I remember correctly, I'm

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Speaker 1: The Lions have kind of bounced back and forth between

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Speaker 1: Let's call it over under seven. That's the consensusize, but

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Speaker 3: If you want to trail the professional money, the professional

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Speaker 3: money is on the Detroit Lions. There is a ton

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Speaker 1: I just it's their defense man like their offense. I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I do like Stafford. If the ore bubble,

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Speaker 1: you do. They've got Galladay, They've got Jones, I don't mind.

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Speaker 1: Danny Amandola might be my seven year old's favorite player.

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Speaker 1: Hockinson obviously dealing with the ankle injury, but he's really talented.

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Speaker 1: They just gave Decker that the big money on the

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, They got no pressure, no turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Last year they traded Darius Slay, They've added Jeff Akuda.

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Speaker 1: That's what kind of you know, I understand trailing sort

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Speaker 1: the reasons I just you know, I don't know their

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Speaker 2: Patricia's you know, coaching first job at this.

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with that. They've got it and he

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Speaker 3: Akuda in the first round or as they did. They

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's to the NFC South here,

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Speaker 1: Saints are over under ten and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's a big number.

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Speaker 1: Bucks are over under nine and a half, Falcons over

436
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,280
Speaker 1: under seven and a half. That's just toward the under,

437
00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,600
Speaker 1: and the Panthers over under five and a half also

438
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,159
Speaker 1: just a little bit towards the under. So you know,

439
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,840
Speaker 1: we can start with the Saints or you can just

440
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,280
Speaker 1: tell me your favorite bet, because I'm having trouble with

441
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,200
Speaker 1: the Saints, I'll be honest.

442
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,359
Speaker 2: And there's these rumors today.

443
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,120
Speaker 1: Obviously, first, you know, maybe we just will go into

444
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200
Speaker 1: the Saints because you've got Alvin Kamara who's been dealing with,

445
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, contract issues. Maybe he also apparently had an

446
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,359
Speaker 1: epidural shot recently. And now there's all these rumors today

447
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,240
Speaker 1: about I don't know where they're going to get the

448
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: cap space for it, but maybe them signing Jadavian Clowney.

449
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520
Speaker 1: So I guess, how do you view the Saints the

450
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,119
Speaker 1: big number, you've got no fans probably going to be there,

451
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,440
Speaker 1: although I don't technically know if they've made that decision

452
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,600
Speaker 1: for the full season or anything like that. But how

453
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,960
Speaker 1: do you view a team like the Saints is going

454
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Speaker 1: to be a really good football team going for it?

455
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 1: There one last year, big number. Losing kind of the

456
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Speaker 1: home field advantage a bit.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are losing the home field, but the turf

458
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 3: is so fast and they're so This is one of

459
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Speaker 3: the teams that I think in this year you go

460
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,639
Speaker 3: with the over, and the reason is because you have

461
00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 3: the star quarterback, a veteran quarterback, and a veteran coach.

462
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 3: They've got all the continuity that you would want. They've

463
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 3: got everything you would need. They don't need preseason games,

464
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,640
Speaker 3: they don't need to practice. They know what to do.

465
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 3: They've got Michael Thomas that they know how to I mean,

466
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 3: I Thinkamar is going to come in and play really well.

467
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 3: They've got all the weapons. I have no problem betting

468
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Speaker 3: on the Saints to win this division, to go twelve

469
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,719
Speaker 3: and four and win this division, and I think that

470
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 3: they're probably the team that comes out of the NFC

471
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 3: in plays in the Super Bowl. I just think they've

472
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 3: got such a huge advantage because they don't have to

473
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 3: worry about implementing anything. It's just trying to pick up

474
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 3: where they left off last year and keep going. So

475
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 3: adding Cloinney would be great. They get more defensive pressure,

476
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: get more edge rushing. I think, get after the quarterback,

477
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 3: and they're gonna need it with some of the quarterbacks

478
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 3: in their division. But I like the Saints on the over. Yeah.

479
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: So Matt and I are you know, we chat offline,

480
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, even when we're not doing these podcasts. And

481
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Speaker 1: I was in this Fantasy Sports and Gaming Association cool

482
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 1: draft several months ago where we got to draft our wagers,

483
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: so you can do it on player props or you

484
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: could do it on odds, and I went with a

485
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: little more risky strategy. I had the first of our

486
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: all pick and my first pick of any bet I

487
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: could take was the Saints at ten to want to

488
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, because this is a team, in

489
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Speaker 1: my opinion, that is just absolutely built.

490
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Speaker 2: This is the year. I mean, this is it.

491
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Speaker 1: They are just forfeiting their cap, you know, space for

492
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Speaker 1: future years.

493
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Speaker 2: This is their year. I like them a lot. I agree.

494
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Speaker 1: I'm personally not concerned necessarily about the crowd noise. Again,

495
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: it is a fast turf, but again, they don't need anything.

496
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: I love the addition of Manual Sanders. I mean, everybody,

497
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: all of our fantasy guys tease me about them.

498
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Speaker 2: I love it.

499
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Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect edition that you need, right

500
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: now a safety valve for him. Get a little help

501
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 1: off of off of Michael Thomas.

502
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then tre Quon Smith.

503
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 1: Is apparently having a really really good camp, So they

504
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: could be really exciting.

505
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 2: And defensively they're solid.

506
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Speaker 1: And remember they got injured down you know, Sheldon Rangets

507
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: I got injured down the stretch last year with their defense.

508
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Speaker 1: Talk to me about your bucks, Your bucks, I say,

509
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: Brady and yours are.

510
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Speaker 3: So here's here's my philosophy. They're gonna be a playoff team. Okay,

511
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna win ten games. I bet them over nine

512
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: and a half. I think they win ten games. I

513
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: know ten and six is difficult, but I think they

514
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: do win ten games. I think their their schedule sets

515
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 3: up well for them to go ahead and win ten games.

516
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Speaker 3: I don't think they win a playoff game. I think

517
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: they lose in the playoffs. And I think they're gonna

518
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 3: have you know, Brady is gonna be Brady. They're gonna

519
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: put up good numbers. Gronk. I think he's gonna have

520
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: a big red zone year. I think he's gonna catch

521
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of touchdowns. I think you're gonna see Brady

522
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 3: throw for a big number I think you're gonna have.

523
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Speaker 3: I don't think Leonard Fournette does anything for this team,

524
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: except for if they actually signed him because he's good

525
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: at pass blocking. There's something really wrong with that for

526
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 3: a guy who was a top five pick in the

527
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: NFL draft four years ago. So that's not great. But

528
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: I think they like Ronald Jones a lot. I'm a

529
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: little concerned about the offensive line keeping Brady upright and

530
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: keeping him healthy, and I think they've gotta They can't

531
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Speaker 3: run the traditional Bruce arians hold on to the football

532
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: for four seconds offense, he'll get I mean we saw

533
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: with Winston he got killed. Brady won't make it to

534
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 3: reach to weak eight. The only thing about their schedule

535
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: that scares me is how late their buy is. They

536
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: gotta play a lot of games. I think is twelve

537
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: consecutive games before their bye week. Yeah, keeping Brady healthy

538
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: for that long, I'm concerned about that, but I think

539
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 3: they go ten and six. I don't think they want

540
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 3: to win much in the playoffs, but I do think

541
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Speaker 3: they win a wild card.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not that you know, Look, I don't think

543
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: you bringing a guy like Brady at you know, given

544
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: his age, given his stature, given his skill level, and say,

545
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: you are coming into this offensive system and you will

546
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: do things the way Jamis Winston right at it, right, Like,

547
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: that's just not how it's gonna be. I don't view

548
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: him as basically being like, Hey, you're gonna hang in

549
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: there for four seconds and you're gonna wait for this

550
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: play to develop. That's not who Brady is necessarily if

551
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the line, he's too smart a quarterback.

552
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not betting it.

553
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm not betting it because it just it seems like

554
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: such a public play, you know what I mean.

555
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: To love what it is. Yeah, it was ten for

556
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: a little while, and then it came down because the

557
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: public was betting it up, and then the pros came

558
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 3: in on the under.

559
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you know the Falcons? Do you have

560
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: any lean either way on the Falcons?

561
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: You know it's funny. I hear a lot of you guys,

562
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: and you know more about this space than I would.

563
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: With the fantasy about Matt Ryan having a monster season,

564
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: that there's a lot of hype around this offense to

565
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: put up some huge numbers in Julio Jones is going

566
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: to do incredible things. So I tailed it all my

567
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 3: own fantasies. I mean I drafted Julio Jones in the

568
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: second round, so I mean I tailed that hype around

569
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 3: around where we are here for this offense. But I

570
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: just don't know about this defense, and I think the

571
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 3: division's pretty difficult for them. So I don't have a

572
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 3: play on it per se, But I think there's going

573
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: to be a lot of points scored for Atlanta.

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't love the over on seven and a half.

575
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: I do think that their offense is going to be really,

576
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: really good. I think another year undercutter. I love the

577
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: addition of Hayden Hurst. I think Calvin Ridley develops really well.

578
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: They've got twelve of their sixteen games in domes. I

579
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: mean that's like that's like Matt Ryan's bread and butter.

580
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: So I do think the offense is going to be

581
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: get The offensive line is going to be a lot better,

582
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: and again the defense really is just it's always injured.

583
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: You know, every year.

584
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: Their defense should be okay if they're you know there,

585
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily know how good of a team

586
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be. Fantasy wise, Yeah, absolutely, get get

587
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: every piece of that offense that you can get, but

588
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't love.

589
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: Again, they have a tough schedule. It's just not you know,

590
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: that's a tough division. It's not there.

591
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: What about the Panthers out of curiosity over under five

592
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: and a half? I lean a little bit, I'll be

593
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: honest towards the under here again, this is something where

594
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: again as with Brady buying week thirteen here, that's a

595
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: really long time. This is a new team, as we've

596
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: talked about, right, this is not the year to have

597
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: the new coach and the new coordinator and the new quarterback.

598
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Everything is new here, even

599
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: Broaden and Robbie Anderson. They drafted all defensive players like

600
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: throughout the entire thing, so the defense is very young.

601
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Speaker 1: It's just something where I think it's going to take them,

602
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, after Luke Kei Lee retired, it's going to

603
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: take them a while to find their footing offensively and defensively.

604
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: And I think, especially with such a late buy a

605
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: tough division, not a great team, you know kind of

606
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: what Matt rules sort of the whole thing is he

607
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: comes in their first year is terrible and then he

608
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: heaes around Roys.

609
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 3: That's what that guy, dude, He is literally going to

610
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: come in and burn this thing to the round. Okay,

611
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: that is what he's been told to do. That's why

612
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: he took the job, because he wanted to come in.

613
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna stink, They're gonna be I mean, I got

614
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: an argument with somebody about the Raiders in Week one

615
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 3: and the Raiders are favored by two and a half points,

616
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: and they're like, how in the world the Raiders favored.

617
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you realize what Matt Rule is gonna do?

618
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: They have Teddy Bridgewater. They're gonna run McCaffrey into the

619
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: ground like he is going to be so tired by

620
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: the end. He'll be a great fantasy guy because his

621
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: usage rate's going to be through the roof. But that's it.

622
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all they've got. I mean they've lost leadership,

623
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Speaker 3: like you mentioned with Keith Lee retiring. They don't want

624
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: to win football games. They want to be right back

625
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: where they were last year. They want to be right

626
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: back at the top of the draft. They want to

627
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: be right there restalking because it's all about year three

628
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: and four for Matt Rule. This is a wash of

629
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Speaker 3: a season for the Panther. They have no desire to

630
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: be competitive if they win four games. I will be

631
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 3: floored if they win four games. I mean maybe I'm

632
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: lower on Bridgewater than other people, but new quarterback, new

633
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: system in COVID, with the with the mantra to come

634
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: in and do a complete rebuild. Yeah, they're gonna be bad.

635
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Really Yeah.

636
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Speaker 1: I do like Bridgewater personally as a quarterback. I think

637
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: he's a competent NFL quarterback. I think they have a

638
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: lot of interesting pieces. As you said, offensively, you know,

639
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: obviously McCaffrey, I love DJ Moore, I like.

640
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson generally speaking.

641
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel apparently has had a little bit of a

642
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: rough camp, but he's, you know, kind of talent.

643
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: They could do things offensively, but there's just no way.

644
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: There's just no way when you're bringing in back.

645
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: They, like you said, nobody is expecting this team to

646
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: put up all that much of a fight. You've got,

647
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, no fans, there's gonna be no juice. They

648
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: they've got so long before they're gonna get in. So

649
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: to the extent there's a play, there are two plays.

650
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: I guess I like a little bit. I lean towards

651
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: the Saints over as you do, and it sounds like

652
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: you're with me here.

653
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: Yep.

654
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: I like the I like the Panthers under to be honest,

655
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: five and a half. That's a play that I've I've

656
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: made already, and I'm feeling pretty common. It's just really

657
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: difficult this look.

658
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: At that role at at Temple year one in Baylor

659
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: in year one and.

660
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: Look three and twenty one, I believe is his record.

661
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: He just kicked every kid out. He just went through

662
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: the He's like, you're gone, You're gone, You're gone, You're gone.

663
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: He just weeded out the entire team and replaced them

664
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: with his own recruits. So he's gonna do the same

665
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: thing where he wants young kids, as you mentioned, drafted

666
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: young with it with the defense. He wants to bring

667
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: in guys who I've never played in the NFL, who

668
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: are going to look up to him and go like, Okay, guy,

669
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm here to play for you. He's a big about

670
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: like this is my guy type of coach. And so anybody,

671
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 3: any veteran left over, any guy on the tail end

672
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 3: of his career, you should probably just like start planning

673
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: on playing for somebody else next year, because you're not

674
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: gonna be there after this season.

675
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it all right.

676
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to our last division here, NFC West forty

677
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: nine Ers. Again another high over under. Obviously, they made

678
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl over under ten and a half. Just

679
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: a little bit towards the under. Seahawks over under nine

680
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: and a half also, du justed a little bit towards

681
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: the under. Ram over under eight and a half also

682
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: just a little bit towards the under, and the Cardinals

683
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: over under seven just a little bit towards the over.

684
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: So what do you like here?

685
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: This isn't really interesting division, right because you got continuity

686
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: all over this division. You got Pete Carroll and you've

687
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: got Russell Wilson. You got the team that went to

688
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year in the forty nine ers.

689
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: I mean, heck, even the Cardinals of continuity. Really, I

690
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: mean it's year two of Kyler Murray Cliff Kingsbury. But they,

691
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna keep building on what they're building.

692
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: I love the Cardinals. I mean, maybe I'm just a

693
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: really I like Cliff Kingsbury a lot. I love the swagger.

694
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm a big Kyler Murray fan. And the fact that

695
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: they got DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, you kidding me. I

696
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: think Christian Kirk might have a good year coming up here.

697
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna run the ball well. I mean,

698
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: the fact that they were able to trade David Johnson

699
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: and flip him into what they got, I mean, it's

700
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: just for I mean, they had, they had a killer

701
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: off season. So I'm on the over for the Cardinals.

702
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody wants to play these guys. Their

703
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: defense needs to get much better. I understand that, but

704
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I think Murray's going to be a real problem to

705
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: stop in the NFL, and having Hopkins to throw to,

706
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna stretch the defense. I'm really excited to watch

707
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: the Cardinals and then the forty nine ers are gonna

708
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: be really interesting. That numbers is too large. Everyone's saying

709
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: that Garoppolo is killing in a camp everyone. Everything that

710
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: I'm reading from the media in San Francisco is that,

711
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo is just spinning the ball really

712
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: well and looks totally different this year and really competent.

713
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: After losing the Super Bowl, he wants to prove that

714
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: throw he didn't hit won't happen again, right, But I

715
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: think the numbers is a little bit too steep for

716
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: me to go down. And then I mean, everyone loves

717
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. I guess if I had to play in

718
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: this division, it probably would be on the over for

719
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: the Seahawks, simply because of the continuity with Pete Carroll.

720
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: But the defense is a question for me when it

721
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: comes to the Seahawks. So Wilson, I think is gonna

722
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: have a big year. I just don't know if that

723
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: means ten wins. That seems like a really big number

724
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: for the Seahawks.

725
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: The Seahawks.

726
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: The thing about the Seahawks is, and it's probably just

727
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: because of Wilson. Now, I can't imagine how good they

728
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: might be if they just let him do his thing

729
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: right off the bat instead of doing like run on

730
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: first down, run on second down, third and seven. Okay, okay,

731
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: by the way, now it's the fourth quarter and we're

732
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: down by thirteen points. You know, Russ, go do your thing.

733
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Ten wins.

734
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: They're not a tenmen team when you look at their

735
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: entire team, and today there are reports that they signed

736
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. They're not a ten win team.

737
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Okay.

738
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: The defense just isn't there. But I'm not gonna bet

739
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: the under because it's it's Russell Wilson. So this is

740
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: a team we just talked about it. This is one

741
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest home field advantages, you know, and so

742
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: what happens to that without that crowd noise?

743
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: Well, the rain of the westfield, by the way, is

744
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: that still I think?

745
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: So I can't remember at this point all the time,

746
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: but go ahead.

747
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: No, I just I think the rain in the atmosphere

748
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: still is factoring in there. It's a cold and damp

749
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: and nasty place to play football. So that's there. Again,

750
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: we don't know what the piped in crowd noise is

751
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: going to sound like. And everyone talks about the fact

752
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: the way that stadium is built that the overhang keeps

753
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: the sound down, so maybe pumping in crowd noise makes

754
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 3: it more difficult to play there. I still think it's

755
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: a hard place to play. You gotta fly all the

756
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: way across the country to the top corner of the

757
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: of the West coast, and so I still think that

758
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: it's not easy to play there, even if the crowd

759
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: is not going to be allowed in at any point

760
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: in time. But I just, man, it's hard, it's tough.

761
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: It's a tough number to go ahead, and lay to

762
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: have that team win ten games given the fact that

763
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: their six division games are tough. They're not easy to play.

764
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

765
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: By the way, it's CenturyLink Field. I just like that

766
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: just to make sure my bad on that one. I

767
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: can never keep up with the.

768
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: Well CENTERLNK bought Quest because when I was in Omaha, Nebraska,

769
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: it was the Quest Center, and then century Link bought

770
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: out Quest and it became the century Link Center, and

771
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: then Central Links sold to Chai Center and now it's

772
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 3: called the Chai Center. So yeah, it's very hard to

773
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: keep up with.

774
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: The I will just call it the place where the

775
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks play football. So this entire division for me, and

776
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on the Rams before in

777
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: a second, but this entire division, to me, it's just

778
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: to stay away. Like I do not have a good

779
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: feel for any of these teams. Forty nine ers are

780
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: are great. Like you said, you want continuity, that's what

781
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: you've got. They've also got absolutely nobody to throw the

782
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: ball to at the moment, and except for George Kittle,

783
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: And maybe that's not a huge deal, you know. I mean,

784
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: obviously the forty nine ers run the ball a ton.

785
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: They still have most Earth. They still have Tevin Coleman,

786
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon apparently looks fantastic you know in camp. But

787
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel maybe he's gonna play, Maybe he's gonna wind

788
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: up on the pup Lisy.

789
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: We really don't know. At this point.

790
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Nayuk is dealing with injuries, you know. Even they

791
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: just signed Tevon Austin now he's on ir Not that

792
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: that makes that big a difference.

793
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: So I get a little word and again, ten wins.

794
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: We talked about that number. Eleven wins is a real thing.

795
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: I like it for the Saints four nine ers.

796
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: It's something where if I were forced, I would go over,

797
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: But it's not something where I want to go to

798
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: the Seahawks.

799
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Same deal.

800
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a ten win team, but I'm

801
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: not gonna bet against Russell Wilson because he always makes

802
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: that team better. I don't think he's had a losing

803
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: year since he's been in the league. Maybe five hundred year,

804
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: but certainly not a losing year. And the Cardinals, yeah,

805
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I could at one hundred percent.

806
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: See this being a holy f year for that offense,

807
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: like you really could. I love Kenyon Drake.

808
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell you, and again, I'm a fantasy guy.

809
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how I was when Drake started

810
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: bawling out in Arizona and that they kept him because

811
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: I have loved Drake's talent every year. I've called him

812
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: a sleeper in fantasy with the Dolphins. Unfortunately, Gates just

813
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: like wouldn't let him go. I love Drake there. I

814
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: love the addition of DeAndre Hopkins. Look, Larry Fitzgerald is

815
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: still there, you know what I mean. They have been

816
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: better on the offensive line, obviously, Christian Kirk you mentioned

817
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: and Andy Isabella is having a nice camp my school. Yeah,

818
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: that their offense is going to be really really like exciting.

819
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: And I like Murray a lot. I like his talent.

820
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's gonna definitely be able to improve,

821
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: just generally speaking as a quarterback. I don't love the defense,

822
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: and it's a tough schedule and it's just something where

823
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I can see him at seven.

824
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: I don't, you.

825
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Know, I could see betting the over because it's hard

826
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: for me to see them going six and ten or worse. Right,

827
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: you feel like seven to nine is probably the worst

828
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: case scenario, so I could definitely see going over. Let

829
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: me ask you about the Rams, okay, because I feel

830
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: like I have a completely for no reason whatsoever, and

831
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: a rational like favoritism of the Rams because I've talked

832
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: about it with our guys and we've all made the

833
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: over unders and they're all on the under at eight

834
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: and a half.

835
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: How do you feel right now about the Rams?

836
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: All right? So here's the thing about Jared Goff. He

837
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: plays incredibly well at home. Now why would that be.

838
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 3: He plays well at home because he has his coach

839
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 3: in his ear and his coach can tell him where

840
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: to go with the football. And this is his road

841
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: splits are the most insane road in home splits of

842
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: any quarterback in the NFL. He plays horrendously on the road.

843
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: Crowd noise, he can't hear. He can't hear his coach

844
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: telling him what to do. He's going to be able

845
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: to hear his coach telling him what to do in

846
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: all sixteen games. I am very interested to see what

847
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Jared Goff does this year without fans and stands, and

848
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: what he might look like this season. He might have

849
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: a good year, and if his receivers stay healthy, he

850
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: May that might be one of those teams that we're

851
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: talking about going how are they? Kind of like last

852
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: year when we were just talking about earlier with the

853
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: team that winds up winning a bunch of games because

854
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: of one score games like the Packers. The Rams might

855
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: be this year's Packers, bad football team, but a really

856
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: good record because they get breaks and they get the bounces.

857
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, I would bet the over.

858
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna buy the Curse of Hard Knocks

859
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: simply because it's two teams on Hard Knocks, not one

860
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: team this year for Hard Knocks.

861
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: If it was one, though, you'd buy it.

862
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: You'd be like that, well, there is something to say

863
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: for because everyone talks about Hard Knock. But if you've heard, like,

864
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: honest question, have you had a casual conversation about Hard

865
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: Knocks with anybody yet this year? No, no one's paying

866
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: attention to Hard Knocks. It's boring. The show stinks this year,

867
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: by the way. It's boring and confusing. I love watching

868
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: I still watch it, but I more watch it for

869
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: the protocols for COVID nineteen and how big of a

870
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: distraction it's going to be for the players. So I'm

871
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: not watching it for the typical like who is that

872
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: eighth you know, that that seventh round pick who might

873
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: make the roster, or who's that un undrafted rookie he

874
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: was trying to make it like all those storylines. I

875
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: just feel like America is like we're dealing with some

876
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: real crap right now. We don't care about training cap

877
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: like we don't have time to talk about hard knocks

878
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: or watch hard knocks, Like we're dealing with some reality

879
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: stuff right now, not reality TV. So but I would

880
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: not sleep on the Rams given what Jared Goff I

881
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: think is going to be able to do thanks to

882
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: his head coach, who I think is a vial. I

883
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: think Sean McVay is still a very good coach.

884
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: I think that's what it is for me.

885
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: I think I just I'm like, you know, first of all,

886
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: they went nine and seven last year, right and even

887
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: though they had a really tough schedule, they have a

888
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: bad offensive line, and their offensive line was legitimately like, okay,

889
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: this guy's down. Let me sign a guy off the

890
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: street right now to somehow protect our golf. And Jared

891
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Goff doesn't do well with pressure, Like we know that

892
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: towards the second half of the season, especially at the

893
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: last like five or six games, they switched to a

894
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: lot of twelve personnal. That's when you saw Tyler Higby

895
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: coming on. If you know, from what I've heard of

896
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: hard knocks and again it no casual conversation, but I've

897
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: heard there's been, you know, some rumblings that they're gonna

898
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: stick with this.

899
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: And again they lost Brandon.

900
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Cook, so they can go with assuming that Cooper Cupp

901
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: is healthy. I know he's been dealing with a little

902
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: bit of something, but you know you're gonna.

903
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: Have Tyler Higbye. I love Robert Woods as a player.

904
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: I think offensively, I think, you know, you give McVeagh

905
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: an entire offseason. I think he's gonna be like, Okay,

906
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: we obviously this, we need to fix this.

907
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: What was happening right now? We need to fix this.

908
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll just stick again, Maybe they'll say the twelve

909
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: personnel work, so we're gonna do it. And Gerald Everett

910
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: apparently is having a nice camp too, So I think

911
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna better, the defense not great.

912
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: They obviously still have a couple of huge pieces in

913
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: Ramsey and Donald and everything like that.

914
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: But I love Ramsey in that secondary being hungry on

915
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: a contract year. So look, you have Aaron Donald. I mean,

916
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: you've got the best defensive player in the game now,

917
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: so he destroys offensive lines, he destroys literally.

918
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: Though, that's the only guy who I think can get

919
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: consistent pressure.

920
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean it might not matter.

921
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, but they literally may just be like, nah,

922
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna triple team this dude, and we're gonna just

923
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: see whether or not anybody.

924
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Else can possibly break through and get pressure. That's the

925
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: only thing. It's a weird defense where you've got these

926
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: two elite, really elite players and everybody else. For the

927
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: most part, it is kind of like, eh, okay, pretty good. Though,

928
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fair.

929
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: They did lose Wade Phillips, don't forget like now as

930
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, right, I'm not sure how Brandon Staley

931
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know.

932
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: Do with the defense.

933
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: There are question marks. There are certainly question marks. But

934
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: I do think and again, maybe this is just sort

935
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: of saying I just have faith in Sean McVay. But

936
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: I've been talking about it with our guys because you know,

937
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: we do some over unders. They've all been on the

938
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: under and they are teasing me because I'm like, no,

939
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with.

940
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: The over and I feel okay.

941
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: But again, last year, really tough schedule, completely decimated offensive line,

942
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Tara Goff.

943
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: Played pretty terribly overall, and they still went nine and seven.

944
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: I just think, you you know what I mean, they

945
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: can win nine games even with this division if you know,

946
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: McVeigh can sort of spend some time figuring it out.

947
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't like that their crossover is the

948
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 3: NFC East, but it's not that horrible. I mean, they

949
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: their first road game is at Philadelphia. That's not gonna

950
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: be easy. They're at Buffalo back to back weeks. But

951
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: then it gets easier. They play the Giants and the

952
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: Washington football team.

953
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Those those are victories well done by the way.

954
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Yes, that they're at sam Fran which is hard, but

955
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: then they play the Bears, the Dolphins. They have a

956
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: bye before the Seattle Seahawks come to town. That's great.

957
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch the Rams at Tampa. That's

958
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: gonna be a must see TV game on Monday Night football.

959
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: That's gonna be monstrous. And then the thing, you know,

960
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: they got the Patriots coming in. They got the Jets

961
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: coming in. You know, those aren't easy. I mean, Jets

962
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: are easy game, but the Patriots are. We'll see what

963
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: they look like in Week fourteen. But I just I

964
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: can find nine wins for this football team just given

965
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: their continuity and give it again, look at Jared Goff's

966
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: road in home splits. He's gonna be able to hear

967
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: his coach without having any crowd noise to worry about.

968
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: So I think that's a real sneaky factor here for

969
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: the Rams and how well their offense might perform.

970
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, this is a This is a bet

971
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: that I don't you know, it's just towards the under.

972
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think you can get the over at

973
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: a pretty decent price, and that's where I've been going.

974
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: I you know, I'll be honest, I don't have much

975
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: support among my cronies who also started put in the overrunners,

976
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: but I don't care.

977
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with it.

978
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: That's right, And you like your favorite play here is

979
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals over seven, right.

980
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be if I'm gonna bet one. I

981
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 3: haven't bet it yet, but if if I'm gonna go

982
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: ahead and bet it that, that's that's what I would

983
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: bet is the over on that.

984
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Okay, well done. So here is what we have next week.

985
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna drop the details too much,

986
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: but Matt and I an a couple of you're probably

987
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: familiar with them, a couple of i'll say, high stakes

988
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: contest where we're going to be making some picks.

989
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 2: Each week.

990
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: We're each going to be talking about at five picks

991
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: that we're going to want to make. And again, this

992
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: may be something we're roll over lap. We'll give you

993
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: more than five, but we're going to give you certainly

994
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna put our money where our mouth is, definitely with

995
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: all these picks.

996
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a fun season. We are

997
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: both really really excited.

998
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: About it, and not just because, oh my god, there

999
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: is football in a week from today.

1000
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: As we record this.

1001
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: It is going to be amazing. Matt, thanks for coming on.

1002
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: Are you ready, buddy, You're ready one more?

1003
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm ready. The Daily Juice audience is ready. We're all

1004
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: fired up and counting down the days. I mean, Unfortunately,

1005
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: the college football this coming weekend is not going to

1006
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: be all that entertaining. It's pretty boring. But once we

1007
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: get through the Labor Day weekend. It's all systems go,

1008
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: and we got real football for both the college and

1009
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: the pro ranks to get rock and it's just going

1010
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: to be so much fun. And I am fingers crossed

1011
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: that we play Thursday. Please play Thursday. I'm so nervous

1012
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: about not playing Thursday night for the Chiefs and the Texans.

1013
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm just don't worry about it.

1014
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm hoping it's happening, because I'm really I'm hoping.

1015
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: I just have some feeling that Shaun Watson and Patrick

1016
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes an't gonna play, and I'm gonna be really upset.

1017
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fine, I hope.

1018
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: So just my friends in Houston are warning me, and

1019
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 3: I'm getting so scared.

1020
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: So let's hope you take that negativity, you throw it

1021
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: out the window. But Daily Juice, yes, go listen to

1022
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: it seriously.

1023
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: It's great. Matt does a fifteen minute.

1024
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Podcast available for you every morning, breaking down his best

1025
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: bets of the next day. It is really entertaining. It

1026
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: is really good, and Matt's been doing pretty well of late,

1027
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I'll be honest.

1028
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: Last of late.

1029
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so anyway, we'll be back next

1030
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: week breaking down our Week one picks. Do not forget

1031
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: betting pros dot com slash Chiefs one oh one. Take

1032
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Getting one hundred and one points doesn't matter.

1033
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahomes players, you're gonna be safe up to

1034
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: fifty dollars.

1035
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna be

1036
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: Back again, as I said, next week, so we'll talk

1037
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: to you them, sad