1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: It was definitely a big moment being able to see 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: myself bro these past four years and I reached my 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: golden making that second contract. Yeah, called my mom My 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: mom was just screaming and she was crying all that stuff. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: So it just felt great. So I'm just happy to 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: be back in the Purple White, just being around his 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: organization again. So I'm looking forward to it. Well, I 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: have a hard time believing there's any linebacker out there 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: with better hands than you. Where where did you get 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: those skills? From tires? You can say basketball, you can 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: say baseball gotta catch you. You know, many people don't 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: know that I can catch the ball. You know, it's 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: nice to be able to show it out there. You know, 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: have people surprise you mentioned you're a quiet guy. Do 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: you ever talk trash on the field. You can trash 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: talk about hitting them in them out. That's all that 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: needs to be said. Welcome into the lounge. It is 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: vacation edition slash naptime edition of the lounge in an Airbnb. 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Right now, kids are sleeping in the other room. No 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: basement in the airbnb. This is a small little cottage 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: on the beach. No room. I'm sitting in the kitchen 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: right now with my guy Cliff Tom Brown on the line, 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: because Garrett is also on vacation, but he is not 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: recording the pod. I am. I'm sitting here on a 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: cooler in the kitchen, trying to get as far away 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: from my kid's bedroom as possible. This is this dedication, Cliff, 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: it is. I'm really impressed this. This is definitely the 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: most mellow I've ever heard you in my life. So 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: I started to do my normal laugh and then had 30 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to ring it in, reining in, keep it quiet. So 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: we we are really excited. And the reason I didn't 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: want to miss this is because we have Tious Bowser 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: coming on with us today and that that is a 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: top notch guest. I don't think Tis has ever been 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: on the lounge, so it's this historic this is his 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: story exactly, So really excited about that. But before we 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: do that, you know one thing you like to do 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: with the beach sometimes, Cliff, is is have a few drinks. 39 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: You know what you have to do when you have 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: a few drinks, you gotta take a water break. That's 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a water break. So let's remind everybody out there, stay royal, no, 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: stay stay hydrated, stay Royal Crown, Royal Canadian whiskey. There 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: it is, I hit it uh that We'll jump right 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: into our interview with Tias Thrilled to be joined by 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Thias Bowser and and Tias, I want to start with this. 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I remember when you first came in as a rookie 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: and we did this like jersey reveal thing, and I 48 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: remember when you first saw your jersey, how emotional you 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: got and calling your mom to tell her about this, 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: and just I remember how touched I felt with this, 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: and I have to imagine that the emotions of eiging 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: this contract and what it means for you and your 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: family and your mom also was a really touching moment 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: for you. Can can you take us inside what that 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: was like? Yeah, just you know, my agent called me 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: that morning. I was just getting out of bed and 57 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: he told me, just you know, just a little details 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: with the with the contract and everything. You're saying, it's 59 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: probably the best for you, you know, it's for us, 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, signing with them, and then along with you know, 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: the organization, the defense, you know, being you know, working 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: to be that guy and just you know, coming into 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: a big gara. I think it would definitely be good 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: for you. And then uh, you know, I just went 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: with and he was like, well, I'm gonna make the 66 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: gonna make the calls and you know it's gonna make 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: it happen. So congratulations. So I was like, man, you know, uh, 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I reached my goal and making that second contract, and 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: then um, he had called my mom and my mom 70 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: was just screaming and she was crying all that stuff. 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: So you know, it was it was definitely a big moment, 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, just being able to see myself grow these 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: past four years and you know, making it to that 74 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: second contract and you know, reaching that goal. I just 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 1: it just felt great. So you know, I'm just happy 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to be back in the purple and white and just 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: being around this organization again. So I'm looking forward to it. Now. 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: You already bought her a car, right, So what's what's 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: the first thing you buy mama after signing this deal? Man? 80 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: You already you already said the bar high tie us. Yeah. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: At this point, man, my mom, you know, she's just 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: okay with money, you know. So I bought some change 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: every you know, here and there, you know, whenever she needed. 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, she says she don't 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: really need us, but I don't. I don't know what 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: that means. We'll see, guys when you, uh, a couple 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: of years ago, you were kind of have a turning 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: point your career. You know, team started two and two 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: and then you know there were some changes on defense. Um, 90 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I think people were kind of looking for, you know, 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: guys to step up and seem almost seen from that 92 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: point on, Uh, something click with you. Do you remember 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: back then and if so, what do you think about 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: that time and how important it was for you to 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: kind of take off from that point? Yeah, I think 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: that was a Cleveland game that we had lost, and uh, 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: like you said, it was two and two, you know, 98 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: we had a rough star and uh, they was definitely 99 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: making changes. And that was a real uh tense moment, 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, going back into that defensive meeting room and 101 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: how quiet it is and all the talks of what 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: was going on. It's like, man like, you know, it's 103 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: it's that time to really lock in now. And I 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: thought I had a decent game. You know, I played 105 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: here and there that could have been better. I mean, 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: wall players, so we all make mistakes, but you know, 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I think I had to sect the game I was 108 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: playing fast. So I mean I was I was confident, 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, going into that NEX week and uh, you know, 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: I just felt like I need to, um, going to 111 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: a different a different mode, just just working a little harder, 112 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: locking in a little bit more into the playbook, take 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: care of the body a little bit longer. And you know, 114 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: it definitely worked out for me. And you know, luckily, 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: you know I was going I was going into a 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: bigger role, playing a little bit more and uh, I 117 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: just try to make the most out of it. Just 118 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: every single player was out there, man, just playing a 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: hundred percent, playing fast because I know that, you know, 120 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: I had guys right behind me that was gonna pick 121 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: it right back up. You know where we was at 122 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: because we all relied on each other. We all trusted 123 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: each other, and you know that helps you go out 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: there and play fast regardless of what happens on the field, 125 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: as long as you play the hardest. When you make 126 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: a mistake or not, you know, we'll deal with So, 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, just going into that whole year, you know, 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: I was just playing fast. Plays was coming to me 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: and I was taking advantage of it, and you know 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of just propelled from there. So, um, you know, 131 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: just me just taking advantage of the moment, you know, 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: taking it one player at the time and that will 133 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: help me, you know, make plays. And it definitely worked out. Yeah. 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: I know you've been around some guys like you mentioned, 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: says Judean, who you know, definitely have leadership ability, and 136 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: now it looks like you might be thrown into that role. 137 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I was just wondering what you've learned from those guys 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: about leadership and how much you might be able to 139 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: help a guy in particular like jail and first and 140 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: a young player who is kind of the same spot 141 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you were a couple of years ago, a guy who 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: has a lot of attention, who's looking to grow. You know, 143 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: just the main thing was just being me. That's what 144 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: a lot of That's what a lot of the guys 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: home is. You know. Don't ever change, you know, don't 146 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: try to be somebody that you're not. You know, you know, 147 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: you can change little things here and there to you know, 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: better yourself. Whether that's a whether that's me opening up 149 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Uh, you know, sometimes it might 150 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: just be cases for us like man, forget it, you 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: just gotta you gotta say something. Because we had we 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: had a point where we need a voice or we 153 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: need to play to be made. So you know, you 154 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: just got to go outside of the box and you know, 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: find yourself. And that's what it's all about, you know, 156 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: not only with football, but just what life is. You know, 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: finding new things about you that you didn't even know 158 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: that you could do, all that you was capable of. 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: So um, the main thing was just being me. And 160 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: if it just comes to a point where you need to, 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, you just gotta make it happen. That's part 162 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: of being a leader, that's part of growing as a person. 163 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: And you know that definitely helps when you know you 164 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: go out them make plays and you have your young 165 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: guys who do look up to you that you know 166 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: that you're a big influence or other and you know, 167 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: you just try to lead them in the right direction 168 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: in any any case possible. So you kind of talk 169 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: about stepping into that bigger role. You know, what what 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: is that feeling like for you? Now? You know, with 171 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: with the departures of Matthew Gudon and you can you 172 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: know now you're a kind of the guy. You signed 173 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: this contract, you're the guy. You know, what what is 174 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: that feeling like for you? It feels good, you know, 175 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: just being I wouldn't say being in the shadows, but 176 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: just learning from you know, my older guys and just 177 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: learning from them and how to play the game and 178 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, how to study, you know, just being able 179 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: to talk to certain guys and knowing you know, everybody 180 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: is different and everybody don't react to the same things 181 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: or the same way that you'll say it to other people. 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: So just learn about your teammates. Um, just find a 183 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: little details that they do or what they work on, 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: and try to apply that to your game. And um, 185 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: all right, just like I said, just trying to influence, 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, the younger guys because we're young teams. So 187 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, whatever whatever I can do to you know, 188 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: be an influenced um what they're myself. You know, I'm 189 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna definitely do it because I know I'm a young 190 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm still a young guy. I'm acquired guy. 191 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: And the ways that I show my leadership is just 192 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: playing hard on the field and um, just doing the 193 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: little things outside. And one of the big things is 194 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: just you know, being able to talk a little bit 195 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: more and just being vocals. So I definitely think that's 196 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a thing that I'm work on more and uh, 197 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it works out we can move forward. 198 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Where do you want to take your game next? Oh? Man, 199 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I definitely want to take it. I mean, of course 200 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: to a whole new level. But you know, I definitely 201 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: want to be at a Pro Bowl level, you know, 202 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: first team OFF, Pro second team OFF or whatever. I 203 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: just want to be one of them guys. You know, 204 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: I see everybody else getting like, why why can't I not? 205 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, I put in the same word that these 206 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: guys put in. You know, I go out there and 207 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: play as hard and I mean, of course there's always 208 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: room to grow, and I'm definitely looking forward to it. 209 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: And uh, that's that's where I want to be. I 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: just want to be one of them guys. Well, I 211 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: have a hard time believe there's anybody, any linebacker out 212 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: there with better hands than you. I mean, some of 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: those interceptions this year. Where where did you get those skills? From? Tires? 214 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: And man, I mean you could you could say basketball, 215 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: you can say baseball. You know, hand out coordination, all 216 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: of that. You know, passing the ball, gotta catch you 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, baseball those one hand but all of that 218 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: works out and you know, many people don't know that 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I can catch the ball, so you know, it's nice 220 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: to be able to show it out there and you know, 221 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: keep it a secret and have people surprised that. I know, 222 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you guys didn't achieve your utimate goal winning super Bowl 223 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: last year, but you guys did with a playoff game 224 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: overcame a lot of adversity during the middle of the 225 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: season just to get to the playoffs. How big of 226 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: a deal do you think it was that you guys, 227 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, only made the playoffs, but want the playoff 228 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: game last year? And how much do you think that 229 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: experience is going to help the raid is next year 230 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: get to where they're trying to get to. Um, I 231 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: think it was. I thought it was a really big deal, especially, 232 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, coming off of a huge season, you know, 233 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: having the best record in the NFL and home field advantage, 234 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: everything going your way and then you know, you lose 235 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to Tennessee Titans, and that was that was a tough feeling. 236 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: And to come off the next year, find our tails 237 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: off the tough COVID season and just trying to you know, 238 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: just get a slot into the playoffs, and we did, 239 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: and you know, it just all happened to be the 240 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: same team that just knocked us out the year before 241 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: and we're playing at their stadium, so you know, it 242 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: was definitely a game that we were looking forward to 243 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: in the game that we really wanted to win, and 244 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: we pulled it off. We put off a big one 245 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: against a great team, and the feeling after the game 246 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: wasn't maze and it was. It was amazing to know that, 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, you're able to play for another week and 248 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: we didn't want to. We didn't went at the end, 249 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and unfortunately unfortunately it did. But just you know, looking 250 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: back on it, we we enjoyed that feeling to win it. 251 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: And that's how we've always been in that's where we 252 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: want to be and world organization and the NFL know 253 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: how how tough we are, how hard we work. We're 254 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: winning program and that's what you know, we're going to 255 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: continue to do whether we lose, you know, all the 256 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: best that we have, you know, big key players that 257 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: we have, like we still have a standard and that's 258 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: to be you know, top team in the AFC North, 259 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: to be you know, contender in the a f C 260 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: and you know, a Super Bowl contender, and that's how 261 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: it's always gonna be. You know, I was excited to 262 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: see this pass rush get after Patrick Mahomes and I 263 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: wanted to see that rematch really bad, you know, and 264 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: see you coming off the edge against those guys. How 265 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: much do you look at it, because I look at 266 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: last season. You had five sacks in twenty nineteen, two 267 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: sacks the following season, but you had more quarterback hits. 268 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: You know, Like, did you feel like like even though 269 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: your sacks went down by three, that your past rush 270 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: was even better last year than it was in twenty nineteen. Yeah, definitely, 271 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: just like you said, just having an opportunity to get 272 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: out on the field and you know, the rush of 273 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: pastor again a group going and like I said, I 274 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: was confident, you know, coming into that year, working hard 275 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: and do whatever I could to get on the field. 276 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, with sacks, you just have to 277 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: be there at the right place at the right time. 278 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Then you know, unfortunately didn't work out for me. I 279 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: got there, but either they throwing the ball at the 280 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: last second or you know, just get in the way, 281 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: or somebody getting there right before me, or you know, 282 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: there's all types of things that happened. You know, when 283 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: it comes to the quarterback. But um, I definitely felt 284 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: like I showed that I can get there, and you know, 285 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: the film shows and you know, I definitely want to, 286 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, show more of the sacks you know, this year, 287 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: and um, you know that's the goal, just to show 288 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: more film of me getting sacked instead of you know, 289 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: not instead of but along with the quarterback. Is right? 290 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned you're a quiet guy. Do you do you 291 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: ever talk trash on the field? And is that or 292 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: that just beneath you? Man like you you don't get 293 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: into that. See I'm not I'm not really a trash talker. 294 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I take pride of my energy and 295 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: there's no reason to just giving away energy and time 296 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: to you know guys just to be in they face, 297 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: like you can show them what you do. You can 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: trash talk about hitting them in the mouth and that's 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: all that you that needs to be said. You know, 300 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: they can talk whatever they wanted until they get punching 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: them out. And that's just how I kind of roll. 302 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: But unless that's something going on with my other teammates 303 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: and you know, then of course, you know, I gotta 304 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta butt in, I gotta get myself 305 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: involved in whatever's going on. So that's the only way 306 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: that I ever be talking trash. But I got some 307 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of respect for these guys in the league, and you know, 308 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I'd much rather show my play as my trash talking, 309 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, running my mouth. Well, I mean, you don't 310 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: get any more intimidating name than Bowser. Let's just I mean, hey, 311 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: ti Us is already you know, it's like t reck tie. 312 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Bowser. Were you a Mario Kart guy, 313 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: tias I was a Mario Kark guy, So I assume 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: you always picked Bowser, right, yeah, man, whether it's Mario 315 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: kart racing or just Mario in general, whatever type of 316 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: fighting game, whatever, the Bowser's right there, I'm rolling with 317 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: him because that's my guy, I mean, the same we 318 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: we have the same connection. So well, you know, though 319 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of you're known for like your speed, Bowser 320 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: is a little slow, and Mario Kark he's like all 321 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: about the muscle, you know what I mean. But they 322 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: had they have extra gadgets, you know, on there, don't 323 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: go a little bit faster. So I just I'm always going, 324 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: my god, bows Cliff, don't know what the hell we're 325 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: talking about right now, Cliffy, I'm gonna take you're not 326 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: a Mario Kart guy. That would be a lucky guess 327 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: on your part. Yes, that's correct, Cliffs, Like, what are 328 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: we talking about? And you be amazed. But there's a 329 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of people that don't know who Bowser is, Like 330 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: I guess they never played Mario before. And I'm like, like, 331 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: you've never heard of Bowser like the monster on the 332 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: game and stuff. No, I've never heard. Like, all right, 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: this conversation is over, pretty much done. I didn't want 334 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about your your basketball upbringing. 335 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: You're saying how basketball is kind of your first sport 336 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: and what you grew up playing and you played it 337 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: at Houston. You played two years there, didn't you at 338 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: University of Houston? So just you know, how how did 339 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: basketball all uh kind of affect your your football game 340 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: and and um, you know how that makes you a 341 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: better all around athlete? Um, just you know, being around 342 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: the guys, not only just on the court, but just 343 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: from my coach, you know, Coach Sampson coming in accepting 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: me because we just had a coach and change for 345 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: my first year and just learning from him just mentally 346 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: how to prepare, how to work hard, how to be 347 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: a teammate, and uh, I felt like part of that 348 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: was definitely my growth as far as with my football game, 349 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: not only just on the court being able to move 350 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: and being athletic, jump in, change the direction, all of that, 351 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: but just overall just you know mentally, uh, just respecting 352 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: the game, respecting your teammates, respecting your opponents, understanding the 353 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: true men and the hard work and that you can't 354 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: disrespect the game. And that's what I don't do, especially 355 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: you know with the league, and you know how hard 356 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: it is to be at this level, Like it's not easy, 357 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: and I use you know that, you know, humble myself 358 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: to keep myself on point and know that I gotta 359 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: come out and work hard each and every day and 360 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: to be the best player, the best man that I 361 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: can be to you know, help others, you know, reach 362 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: their levels along with mine. So you know, basketball definitely 363 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: played a big part um as forwards my growth and 364 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: what I do now. And you know, I'm definitely appreciate, 365 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: definitely appreciate it, especially with my mom who put me 366 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: into it and you know that help me get it, 367 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: help me got started with it. Now I know. Obviously, 368 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: staying with the Ravens gives you a chance to be 369 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: still connected with the coaching staff Wing you know, coach Hardball, 370 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: I mean, Win got most player I talked to say 371 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: how much they love playing defense for him because he 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: gives you a chance to utilize a lot of skills. 373 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: How how how much fun is it playing in a 374 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: defense like this where you know, a guy like yourself 375 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: who can do a lot of things gets to display that. Yeah, 376 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: it's fun, man, especially when you're able to do a 377 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: lot more, when you're a reliable guy and you know 378 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: the coach can depend on you to do pretty much anything, 379 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: whether that's Russian or dropping. And they put me into 380 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: a big role these past few years as far as 381 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, giving offenses different looks, and you can you 382 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: can hear, you can see it on the field that 383 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: those guys confused are like, man, you know whether we 384 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: need to check him, do we need to I d him? 385 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: We don't know? And that makes it so much fun 386 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: to know. Man, he don't know what he's doing. He 387 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm dropping the rush. You don't know, 388 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: Judah dropping the rush. You don't know if this corner 389 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: is coming or this safety is coming, or this old 390 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: lineman is I mean, this d lieman is dropping in. 391 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to be on the field and 392 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: see those guys confused and then when they when they don't, 393 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, when stuff don't work out for him, It 394 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: just it just brings so much confidence to the defense. 395 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: And I just felt like that's what makes it fun 396 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: of just being able to play fast, you know, being 397 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: able to be in different positions to make plays and 398 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: to also set up plays for your teammates and uh, 399 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: you know, it just makes it fun. And it's always 400 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: nice to play bad. So that's the main thing. Who's 401 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: who's the next highest bowser on the Stevens. Who's gonna 402 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: have their breakout year this year? Like a young guy 403 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: that that fans might not know a ton about yet. 404 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a thing. There's a lot of great 405 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: guys on this team, young guys that you know that 406 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: I felt like they're gonna make big jumps. Um. I 407 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: feel like Patrick Queen of course, you know, having his 408 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: first year in and just being exposed to it so quick, 409 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, not having you know, preseason games and everything. 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna make a huge jump. This year. UM, 411 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: I definitely want to see James Approachey this year and 412 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: see what he does. Um, j K, I felt like 413 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna do some big things after you know, great 414 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: first year. UM. I feel like Ferg is gonna make 415 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: a huge jump this year with him being in a 416 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: bigger role and you know, having years on this belt. UM, 417 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: I say, Anthony Favorite, I've always been confident in him 418 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and what he could do and he's been able to 419 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: show us. So just being able to have him healthy 420 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know, confident, I think that would be good. 421 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: And I think my last gonna be DeSean. DeSean Elliott 422 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: just how he did his past year. It was just 423 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: so great to see him healthy, you know, being out 424 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: the past few years. Just seeing him healthy, playing fast, 425 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: and I was able to see him at Texas and 426 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: from what he can do and just the transition to 427 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: the league now, I think it's just gonna be an 428 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: amazing year. Come. So those are a few guys that 429 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this year that I'm making big jump. 430 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Nice and last question for for your Tige shool, let 431 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: you go how far is Houston going in the basketball torrant? Here? Yeah, 432 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: if you want to be real, man, I feel I 433 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: believe that they're gonna go all the way. You know, Yeah, 434 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some top of games here and there, 435 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: and I mean that's part of you know, the March madness. 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: And not every team who's won the national championship is 437 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: last year just had a smooth, selling championship run. Like 438 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: they went through some rough patches. They had games that 439 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: they had to find a way to just clo out of. 440 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: And um, I'm definitely confident in our team and what 441 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: we can do, and you know, looking forward to these 442 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, but I definitely feel we'll make 443 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: it and win it off. Man, if they if they 444 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: could just get a little more eligibility out of you, 445 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: get you out there jacking up some threes. I saw 446 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: your stat line, your career stat line, a couple of 447 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: three balls. He man, hey, I already talked about Simpson 448 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, if you need me in 449 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: the corner like p J tuck out ThReD and just 450 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: you know, waiting for the three, you need me to 451 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: rebound the ball, whatever, Man, I do it. You know, 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: if I need you got that football body. Now, they 453 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: don't want they don't want to see you on those boards. 454 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: The opponents. Man, I trust me, I've had I've passed 455 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: some guys on the court. They're like, yo, I know 456 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be out here. I know you're 457 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: not slow. What are you doing out here? Like? I 458 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: just don't don't. I'm gonna let you free. Just go 459 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: ahead and just don't touch me. Something like might workout, man, 460 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: might work out nice. Well, thanks for joining us times. 461 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: We really appreciate it, man. We're really looking forward to 462 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: what you do this season. Really excited. Yes, sir, I 463 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Great hearing from Tias Cliff. You know, I 464 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: want to ask you, what do you think is gonna 465 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: end up happening with this pass rush? You know, I 466 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: doubt that the Ravens are done at the position obviously, 467 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: either be a free agency or the draft. Do you 468 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna they're gonna add another veteran and free 469 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: agency at this point or what? Yeah? I would guess 470 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: that they will at some point before Week one add 471 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: a veteran pass rusher. Also expect him to draft one. 472 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: And I do think though that there is room for 473 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: a guy either who they draft or pick up for 474 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: as a creator who is just a pass rusher. Even 475 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: if he's not good as a run stopper or a 476 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: pass coverage guy, their defense is good enough. I think 477 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: we're signing Wolf was important. We signing Purnell, it was 478 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: important if they just get a pass rushing specialists, that 479 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: guy could help them. Maybe in other years they might 480 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: need an all around player. I think with their secondary 481 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: the front seven, yeah, just get a guy who, hey, 482 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: you see the quarterback, get to him and put them 483 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: in there and those certain packages. I do expect it 484 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: to pick up a guy in the draft or as 485 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: a veteran who who fits that role. You know. That's 486 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: that kind of reminds me of the guy that I 487 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: mentioned on last week's pod, that's Georgia's disease ADULARI. Uh, 488 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's not as big as your usual 489 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: Ravens draft pick at outside linebacker. He I think he's 490 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: like six three, which isn't small. Um. I mean, he's 491 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: just more of that pure pass rusher. I think the 492 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: comps are even to yaniqu and Ghakway. You know, that's 493 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of his pro comp which is interesting, and I 494 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think that they could almost go 495 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: a little bit outside of their typical mold with that 496 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: because they have some of these run stoppers. I mean, 497 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: let's you know Jalen Ferguson too. I mean, that's a 498 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: bigger dude who can play on the edge to Let's 499 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: not forget about him going into his third season. I know, 500 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, he had a little bit of a bummer 501 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: of a sophomore year. But I'm not writing off Jalen 502 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: uh certainly, So I agree with you. I think some 503 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: a rookie that can come in post six eight sacks, 504 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, somebody like that, that would be awesome. That 505 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 1: would be a great impact for rookie. So I look 506 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: at him. You know another player that I think just 507 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: screams Raven with his back story and all that would 508 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: be quitty pay out of Michigan. I mean, if he 509 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: were to get there at seven, which I would probably 510 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: say it's doubtful but possible. This is gonna be interesting. 511 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: What one thing to watch in the draft. And there's 512 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. There's a lot of really good 513 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: pass rushers that and I think the first two rounds 514 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna take one. But the Browns also want a 515 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: pass rusher because they want They're looking for somebody opposite 516 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. I think the Browns are sitting at twenty six, 517 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: I want to say, once by ahead of the Ravens. 518 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be interesting to see what direction they go. 519 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: But so but I kind of want to The interesting 520 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: thing is free agency, whether they're going to pull the 521 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: pull it on the trigger on somebody in free agency. 522 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I think there's still names out there, you know, and 523 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: if they don't end up signing that wide receiver, you know, 524 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: like they reportedly went after Juju, well you know, they're 525 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: not going to just sit on that money and roll 526 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: it in the next year. They're gonna use it. Is 527 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense if the wide receiver market isn't 528 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: there to roll that into into a pass rusher. Yeah, 529 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean sure it does. But again, how much they 530 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: like one of these guys who is available. We all 531 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: know that they're not going to overspend for a god 532 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: if they're not thrilled with So yeah, it is interesting 533 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: for a gun issue year, and that there's a lot 534 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: of guys who in a normal year probably would be 535 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: gone are still available, and then there's gonna be some 536 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: more guys who become available. So yeah, that's a that's 537 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: an area passed Russer definitely is going to be addressed 538 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: by the Ravens. I believe it's interesting that Jail and 539 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Ferguson to me is in the same situation that Ties 540 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Bowler was in a couple of years ago. This is 541 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: a good point he could break year. I think for jailing, 542 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm interested. I think Tis is gonna try and help 543 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: Jail and he's been where jailing is. And if I'm jailing, Ferguson, 544 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: Ties is a guy, especially with you know, guys like 545 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: Judi Gone, a guy like that going. I would really 546 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: lean on Ties this year for some advice because Tias 547 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: figured it out and that's what Jalen has to do. 548 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: He's got talent. But now in his third year and 549 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: with the departure they've had, more is going to be 550 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: expected of him. And you know we'd all up to 551 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: see him, you know, embrace that and blossom of the 552 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: way Ties did. So that's gonna be an interesting thing 553 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: to lies. So what what kind of numbers do you 554 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: accept expect from ti Us now going into his fifth season. Well, 555 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna get in my opinion, he's gonna get more 556 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: snaps um. He's still gonna be used in pass coverage. 557 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: So sometimes when he could get sacks, you know he's 558 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna be dropping back. I still believe, but I'm thinking 559 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: over under for him six acts. I'm thinking six is 560 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: a good number. And if he's giving you what he's 561 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: giving you now as a pass coverage guy, along with 562 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: six acts, you're talking about a very good player and 563 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: a run stopper. So he's really blossomed to me as 564 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: being a guy who is using his athletic ability. I 565 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: think everyone expected him to be a guy who could 566 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: have the quarterback, but I think he's probably surprising people 567 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: with his ability and pass coverage for sure, and he's 568 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: he's becoming a complete player. Yeah, what's interesting is he 569 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: look at nineteen season, he had five sacks, ten quarterback hits. 570 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: Last year he had two sex but he had fourteen 571 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. So you sax went down, but quarterback hits 572 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: went up. So you know, it's not a reflection that 573 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: he's not getting he's not beating his blocker. He's still 574 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. It's just you know, sometimes they happen, 575 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. The quarterback can get rid of the 576 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: ball is split second earlier. I don't think that's as 577 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: much of an implication on the kind of player that 578 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: somebody is, or a kind of pass rusher that somebody is. 579 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: The ultimate sack numbers. Of course you want to get them. 580 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: But pressure is pressure, right, and pressure causes bad things 581 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: that happen for all offenses and good things for the 582 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Ravens defense. So I agree with you. I think I 583 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: think Tias is you know, he's still a young player. 584 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean Tias is an evolving, growing, young player, and 585 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what he's gonna do in 586 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: this Ravens defense. Well, with that said, everybody out there 587 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: listen and make sure you stay hydrated, stay royal, Crown 588 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Royal Canadian whiskey. Have one for me. I'm on vacation, 589 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: but you know, everybody out there, have a little Crown 590 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Royal for me. All Right, we're all on vaca right now. 591 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Spring Bak baby. Cliff Cliffs holding it down at home. 592 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Cliff, You're the man. Keep holding it down. Garrett. 593 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: We all know where he stands. Okay, it's unspoken, just bailing, 594 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: just like the fantasy league. Just like the Fantasy league, 595 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Where's Garrett when you need him? No show. Oh, he's 596 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna get you. He's gonna get you when he comes back. 597 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: You know that. Anyway, thanks for listening. You can always 598 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: be just at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot 599 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: net and moving back with you next week