WEBVTT - Halloween Special!

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, Happy Halloween. Welcome the Mother Knows Death. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a very special Halloween themed episode for you guys today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the best part of Halloween, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the candy. Yes, the candy is the best part of Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually bought all my Halloween candy yesterday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>purposely didn't buy regular M and ms because I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I would eat a million of them. Yeah, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>regretting the bag, the giant bag I bought of Totti

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<v Speaker 1>rolls because I probably ate twenty of them between last

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<v Speaker 1>night and this morning. I did eat a shit ton

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<v Speaker 1>of tottsi Rolls too. Do you know that New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>was voted to their favorite candy as tottsi Rolls? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>And some people think that that's so gross, but I

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<v Speaker 1>could they're like up there with that for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people generally think I'm a grandmother, but really because

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<v Speaker 1>I eat so many Toati rolls and just do like

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<v Speaker 1>old people things like that. So I don't know. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>been making fun of me for eating You have bridge

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<v Speaker 1>mix in your house, that's no, that's that's the real

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<v Speaker 1>test of an old person. So with Halloween candy, there's

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<v Speaker 1>all of these different things that we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, unfortunately, because there's been some real life incidents

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<v Speaker 1>of things happening with them. And one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>things that's been happening for the past couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>is the DEA putting out alerts to be aware of

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<v Speaker 1>what drugs are going around that potentially could look like

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<v Speaker 1>candy to children. Yeah, so a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we had written this huge post about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>dangers of Halloween candy in the grocery room, and you

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<v Speaker 1>included a picture of these ventanyl pills that were these

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<v Speaker 1>like small multi colored rainbow pills, right, and they look

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like those many sweet arts to me that you

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<v Speaker 1>could buy at the movie theater. You know, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>really do. So that's why they have to issue the

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<v Speaker 1>warning because they look just like candy and anything that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like that is going to be attractive to children,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So. And another thing is is that they

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<v Speaker 1>found that people were smuggling drugs in through candy wrappers too,

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<v Speaker 1>so in bags of Skittles, in boxes of nerds, and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that any I mean, you can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that because some other stories we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>later this week. But in general, I can't see why

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<v Speaker 1>a person would intentionally give your child drugs because number one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gross and stadistic to poison a child or

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<v Speaker 1>to give a child drugs. But number two, why would

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<v Speaker 1>they give your child something that's worth so much more

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<v Speaker 1>than a box of nerds. I think the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>is that you go to there's fifty houses around your neighborhood, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go to all these houses, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who lives in every single house, and there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a person there that also sell drugs or has

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<v Speaker 1>them in their house, and it could accidentally get mixed

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<v Speaker 1>in with the kids stuff. So that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the concern of that, more so than people intentionally trying

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<v Speaker 1>to give it to kids. Yeah, and then generally there's

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<v Speaker 1>just the concern of choking because for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these Halloween candies, they're making them what they call like

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<v Speaker 1>fun size, so that you can give out these little

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<v Speaker 1>pieces and not everybody's having full sized bars. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that also poses serious threats to little kids.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the biggest ones I was always scared of

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<v Speaker 1>is those little dumb dumb pops because they come on

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<v Speaker 1>a stick, but they're the perfect size circle for a

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<v Speaker 1>child to have an asphyxial death to choke on. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's been times when I was a kid, and even

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<v Speaker 1>as an adult, I don't really like them because they're

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<v Speaker 1>too the paper gets too wet and gross for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not not a huge fan of them now. But

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, you know, just because the stick of

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<v Speaker 1>it is made out of paper, it disintegrates with your

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<v Speaker 1>saliva and the head of the lollipop could pop off

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<v Speaker 1>in a child's mouth, or if they chew on the

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<v Speaker 1>stick and it then it's a super huge choking hazard

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a perfect size for a child. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the foreign bodies, which, of course, when you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, we are typically talking about ones that people

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<v Speaker 1>are sticking in parts of their body where they really

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be down there. But of course there's children every

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<v Speaker 1>year that are sticking candy up their noses in their

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<v Speaker 1>ears apparently nerds clusters or like the number one candy

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<v Speaker 1>that fits best in the ear and causes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of problems. And then there's this one story of this

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<v Speaker 1>child that went to the er because he stuck a

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<v Speaker 1>black jelly bean up his nose, and his parents weren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to get it out for hours. And when they

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<v Speaker 1>brought him to the hospital and they were finally able

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<v Speaker 1>to get it out, the parents were expecting him to find,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one solid jelly bean when they were removing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was this giant glob because the exterior candy

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<v Speaker 1>shell had melted off of it and it just started like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just integrating slowly. So well, think about this

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<v Speaker 1>your bodies ninety eight degree, right, and then you put

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<v Speaker 1>a jelly bean on there, of course it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of melt. It would be the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>if you left it outside on a hot summer day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what happened. It melted up in the kid's nose.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me personally, I love the smell of that

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<v Speaker 1>fake annis licorice smell, but most kids hate the black

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<v Speaker 1>jelly bean. Right, maybe you could put it up as

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<v Speaker 1>nose and that its need, But imagine just that smell

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<v Speaker 1>just being like stuck up your nose. I imagine even

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<v Speaker 1>when you take it out, it's just like a very

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<v Speaker 1>lingering smell. You know. It's interesting. Momm's favorite candy was

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<v Speaker 1>always good in plenty, and I always just just like

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<v Speaker 1>this lady is so freaking weird, Like she likes licorice flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>And another weird thing she does is she likes the

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<v Speaker 1>yellow part of the egg. She doesn't like the white part.

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<v Speaker 1>It just like blows my mind how weird that is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we went to Target yesterday to get candy.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a day before Halloween. It's pretty slim pickings.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was like one variety bag that I consider

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<v Speaker 1>old people candy. That there was a ton of bags

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<v Speaker 1>of that because who wants that? Wait, which it was

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<v Speaker 1>like butterfingers, No, butter fingers are good, No, But it

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<v Speaker 1>was those weird those weird candies like almond es. I

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<v Speaker 1>really like Almondjoys, but it's considered an old person candy

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. The Mister Goodbar or whatever, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, kids, I don't think kids really like

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff anymore. But the candies getting outrageously expensive, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that bag was cheaper. I was. I also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were at Target yes or, I also saw

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<v Speaker 1>all of the pretzel I hated getting pretzels or Anything's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say that too. There was there was like popcorn

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<v Speaker 1>like and it wasn't even buttery popcorn. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no anything, no salt or anything popcorn, Like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so much fun. They had a bag of ghost

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<v Speaker 1>shaped veggie straws, and I'm like, what kid wants veggie

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<v Speaker 1>straws on Halloween? Everybody wants candy. Somebody in our neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>growing up, though, used to give out popcorn balls and

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<v Speaker 1>those were pretty good. Yeah, but a popcorn ball is

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<v Speaker 1>a Rice Christ retreat made out of popcorn, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty so like of course, But getting back to it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think I've ever had the urge

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<v Speaker 1>as a child to stick anything into my ear or

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<v Speaker 1>my nose. But you hear about this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We see it all the time. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's like a certain type of kid personality to

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that, or they just accidentally go up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I also feel like I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>the urge to stick. This happened to a kid once

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<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up that this kid apparently had

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<v Speaker 1>really bad breath all the time, and they couldn't figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why the kid had bad breath, And then they

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<v Speaker 1>found out that the kid had stuck a pee up

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<v Speaker 1>their nose months prior, and that's what was emitting the smell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just really funny, right that you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about that all the time. But the biggest thing with

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<v Speaker 1>the foreign bodies though, is when people are sticking them

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<v Speaker 1>in candy bars. There's been documentation of that. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna ask you, I I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>checked my candy a little bit in the nineties, but

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<v Speaker 1>not crazy. But when you were a kid, were you

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<v Speaker 1>guys checking them a lot? Because there was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>incidents in like the you know, ten to fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>before you were born, that some really horrible things happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So Momum and Papa click on top of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we checker treated in our neighborhood, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that we knew every single house that we

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<v Speaker 1>went to because we just lived in a little development

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew almost every single person. But I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like looking back as an adult, I'm like, oh, Pop

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<v Speaker 1>Pop was totally checking my candy because he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's in here that I want? I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>out everything. It's a pretty good tactic, Honestly, it is

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<v Speaker 1>the tactic I do it with my kids all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's completely bullshit. I'm not really looking for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking for what for what I want. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's like whatever. They go to bed and I

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<v Speaker 1>still read their shit. But yeah, so they did check.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do remember mo Mom saying, because I always

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what are you looking for? And they were

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<v Speaker 1>like razor blades, razor blades, sewing needles, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So so apparently this like fear started in the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>because in nineteen sixty four, this woman in New York

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested for giving children ant bait, dog biscuits and

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<v Speaker 1>steel woolpads, not all with warning labels that they were poisonous. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how nice of her, how nice. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think in her case, she was just like hated Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very annoyed by the whole thing, obviously mentally disturbed,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the route she thought she needed a take,

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<v Speaker 1>which is horrible. And then a couple of years later

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto police were finding razor blades in Halloween apples.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess when you were younger, giving away candied

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<v Speaker 1>apples or maybe in like, you know, the fifties, sixties

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<v Speaker 1>was like a bigger thing. So I'm assuming that started

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<v Speaker 1>fading out because people started not trusting homemade goods anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to get We had a house that gave

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<v Speaker 1>out candied apples too, But now, like thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people that are going to be coming to

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<v Speaker 1>my house tonight, Like, who the hell is time for

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<v Speaker 1>that shit anymore? That's like if you live in a

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<v Speaker 1>small neighborhood where you ten kids are coming by, you

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. Well, I was also thinking, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a little kid in the eighties, it

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<v Speaker 1>was different and you know all your neighbors and everything,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know maybe one or two of my neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>out of twenty houses, right, Like, how do you people

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk to each other like that anymore? I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it depends where you live, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>That's just what it boils down to. I agree, I

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<v Speaker 1>know less people in my neighborhood now, although I do

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of my neighbors. But yeah, i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, we lived in a development that was

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<v Speaker 1>built and everybody that moved in in the seventies all

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<v Speaker 1>had children. I mean my bus stop had my bus

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<v Speaker 1>alone was just from our neighborhood was filled with kids,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just know everyone and we all most of

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<v Speaker 1>us went to the public school and everything, so it

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<v Speaker 1>just that's how you know everybody, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's just different because kids go to other

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<v Speaker 1>schools and things like that, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane to me that that many children were in

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<v Speaker 1>your neighborhood growing up, because every year I leave out

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<v Speaker 1>a bowl of candy and it's always more than half

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<v Speaker 1>full by the time I get home. I'm like, not

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<v Speaker 1>even one of you just wants to take the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing and dump it in your bag so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to sit here and eat this for the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of bloods. I don't know. Yeah, it is, it's

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<v Speaker 1>but it just depends where you live, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>when we first moved in here, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more old people on the street, and then it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's transitioning into newer families moving in younger kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole towns like that. So that's just that's just

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes. But I do have a picture in

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<v Speaker 1>the gross room of a sewing needle and a kit cat.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that a real Because I know that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of rumors also spread and maybe this isn't one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent true that people were actually doing that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you always have to assume there's some mentally disturbed individuals

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<v Speaker 1>that are gonna go to these lengths right by putting

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in the Halloween candy. Like you said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand the point of it, especially with drugs, Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>just wasting money giving them to children, And like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the point of taking out the children in your neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna get caught. Like the most notable

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<v Speaker 1>case of Halloween candy which did result in death was

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<v Speaker 1>his father who poisoned his own child with pixie sticks,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was also trying to poison his friend's two

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<v Speaker 1>kids and another neighborhood boy. Yeah, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only out of all these stories that we hear on

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<v Speaker 1>the news about like watch your kids candy, this, that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other, this is the only one that we

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<v Speaker 1>know of that has actually resulted in a death of

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<v Speaker 1>a child during Halloween. Yeah, And what happened in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys aren't familiar with it, is these two

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<v Speaker 1>dads in nineteen seventy four took their kids trick or treating,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was unusual for the time, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>did you see two dads alone taking kids trick or

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<v Speaker 1>treating in the seventies. But anyway, they get they approached

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<v Speaker 1>and did you see a parent trick or treating in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies. I know this is like, this is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're old enough the walk go trick or treating by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how it was in the seventies. You were five

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<v Speaker 1>years old. And they're just like, see you later, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent. Yes. So in this case, these two dads

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<v Speaker 1>are walking around, they each have two kids, and they

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<v Speaker 1>approach this dark house and nobody answers the door. So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the dads says he's going to stick around

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<v Speaker 1>and see if somebody answers the door, which like red

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<v Speaker 1>flag number one. They go to the next house, and

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly that dad appears and goes, oh, somebody did

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<v Speaker 1>crack the door open, and they handed me these five

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<v Speaker 1>pixie sticks. So they give two pixie sticks. They give

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<v Speaker 1>one pixie stick each to that guy's two kids, the

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<v Speaker 1>friends two kids, and then another neighborhood boy. So later

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<v Speaker 1>that night they're all at their respective houses and the

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<v Speaker 1>friend said to his kids, you know, I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you eating any candy before bed, which, like I

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<v Speaker 1>know they're are probably annoyed at the time, but extremely

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<v Speaker 1>great character. And then the guy that got the pixie

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<v Speaker 1>sticks from this alleged dark house pretty much force fed

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<v Speaker 1>his son this pixie stick, which when he was emptying

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<v Speaker 1>it out noticed it was clumpy. And if anybody's had

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<v Speaker 1>a pixie stick, you know, it's this really fine powdered

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<v Speaker 1>sugar type of candy, so there definitely shouldn't be clumps

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Yeah, maybe you should describe what a pixie

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<v Speaker 1>stick is in case people don't know what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this plastic tube filled with this powdered sugar

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<v Speaker 1>candy essentially, so if you're opening the tube and there's

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<v Speaker 1>clumps in it, that shouldn't seem right to you because

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<v Speaker 1>it's this ultra fine powder. I wonder if in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies if they were plastic tubes or if they were

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<v Speaker 1>the paper ones. Well, regardless, they're a straw that's made

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<v Speaker 1>out of either paper or plastic that's just filled with

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<v Speaker 1>flavored sugar basically, and these ones also happen to be

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<v Speaker 1>like stapled shut, which another red flag. It's clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>baggage was tampered with. But this guy force fed his

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<v Speaker 1>child this Pixi stick. The child died within an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up being from cyanide poisoning that was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pixy sticks. So the other parents of the kids

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<v Speaker 1>that got the sticks, you know, are freaking out. The

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<v Speaker 1>friends like, thank god that I never fed my kid

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<v Speaker 1>or I didn't let them have candy before bed. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other neighbor was running around their house trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find this Pixi stick and when they got in

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<v Speaker 1>their kids room, he literally literally was asleep on the

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<v Speaker 1>bed holding it in his hand but had not yet

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<v Speaker 1>opened it, like thank god. So, yeah, they found out

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<v Speaker 1>this guy put cyanide in all of them. That the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the dads, because he had significant debt, about

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<v Speaker 1>half a million dollars in today's money of debt, and

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<v Speaker 1>he took out life insurance policies on his own children

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<v Speaker 1>and the poison the pictures. What a scumbag. Also, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna get caught with the life insurance polosie,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Well? And this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>how they figured this out. So the kid, the kid

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<v Speaker 1>got very sick, and had he he started vomiting and

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<v Speaker 1>having abdominal pain moments within and this pixie stick fainted

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<v Speaker 1>in his dad's arms, was brought to the hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>was dead within one hour. And when his body so

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<v Speaker 1>in that case all the time like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do an autopsy, and of course suspicion's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>high when the medical examiners asking, like what was the

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<v Speaker 1>kid doing? What happened and they say, oh, he was

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<v Speaker 1>eating his Halloween candi. So for anyone that does autopsies,

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<v Speaker 1>your your red flags go up of like it was

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<v Speaker 1>this kid poisoned somehow, some acute poisoning that occurred very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they were doing the autopsy, the coroner had

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<v Speaker 1>smelled the kid's breath and smelled almonds on his breath.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the really interesting things with cyanide is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a small percentage of the population, well not

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<v Speaker 1>a small percent, but a lot of people are able

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<v Speaker 1>to smell almonds when a person has been poisoned with cyanide,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people can't smell it. It's kind of similar

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<v Speaker 1>to asparagus. Asparagus p like, if you eat asparagus, some

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<v Speaker 1>times you could smell it. Very strong, and other people

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<v Speaker 1>don't smell it at all. I remember Lucia when she

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<v Speaker 1>was a baby, I gave her asparagus and changed her diaper,

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<v Speaker 1>and it like the smell of it just whacked me

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<v Speaker 1>in the face. I just I'm able to smell it,

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<v Speaker 1>but some people just aren't able to smell it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting. So even though smelling cyanide is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>puts off alarms for a corner, every corner can't smell it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not one hundred percent something that would diagnose it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it definitely clues you in. Another thing is is

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<v Speaker 1>the live or mortis. So when you die, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the blood that's in your blood vessels kind of falls

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<v Speaker 1>down to the dependent areas of your body where you're laying,

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<v Speaker 1>and usually it's like a purplish reddish color, but in

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<v Speaker 1>cases of cyanide, along with carbon monoxide poisoning, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>bright red and that's also a clue, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to do toxicology to see And it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>that this kid had enough to kill two adults in

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<v Speaker 1>his system. That's how much. And I was in a system,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why he dropped dead within an hour It's

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<v Speaker 1>just disgusting that you would resort to doing something like

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<v Speaker 1>that to pay off debt. And like, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting caught when you take out a life insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're obviously the most guilty person if you're taking one

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<v Speaker 1>out on an eight year old little kid, Like what

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<v Speaker 1>are you even doing? Also, just like okay, so what

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get caught, Like how do you really live

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<v Speaker 1>with yourself? I don't know. And you're like a serious sociopath.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like he was trying to not only kill

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<v Speaker 1>that child, but his other kid too, So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna kill both kids. And his wife was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he basically force fed this pixie stick to their son.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even want it, so he was actively still

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<v Speaker 1>married to the mom. Yeah, I believe. I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>even could you just like imagine that really? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>clearly they there was probably like a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>signs with this guy before he did this. But so

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<v Speaker 1>he was put to death by lethal injection March thirty first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four, about ten years after the end, So

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<v Speaker 1>good piece of shit. So this episode is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>info and to sign up. Let's talk about makeup. Oh, Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Makeup is my favorite part of Halloween, like doing your

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<v Speaker 1>makeup when you were a kid. Let's talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of your your Halloween costumes. Did you see on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 1>I posted one of my favorite ones as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was just as the Yellow Eminem. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Yellow Eminem's good. But that that wasn't so you.

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<v Speaker 1>I had made you a costume for Nightmare before Christmas Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>before that was even a thing that they sold the costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>I made the whole entire thing out of momm's clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a bunch of her shirts and cut them

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<v Speaker 1>up and made you a patchwork dress, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>stockings that I drew stitches on, and it just looked

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<v Speaker 1>so awesome. Of course, there's no photographs of it because wait,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was the nineties. Did you just go at

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<v Speaker 1>her drawers and take a bunch of shirts out with her.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't even know, dude, that lady is insane. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the most insane person I ever met. She goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the store and buys so much clothes and they're all

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<v Speaker 1>hanging in her closet with tag still on it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I could go to her closet right now and take

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<v Speaker 1>ten items out of her closet and she wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>notice they were missing. I sent Didy this video on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram the other day that this guy took all of

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<v Speaker 1>his mom's shoes out of her closet and they lined

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<v Speaker 1>them in the entire upstairs at their house. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think she had over two hundred pairs of shoes or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sent it Toddy and I just wrote momm

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<v Speaker 1>and she said yeah, and none of them are comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>which not one, not one. While the best thing about

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<v Speaker 1>momm and her shoes, though, is that she had these

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<v Speaker 1>these like booties, and one pair was black and one

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<v Speaker 1>pair was brown, but they were the same as ex shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>And one day she went all the way to work

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<v Speaker 1>wearing one black shoe and one brown shoe. Like would you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would I don't even know what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would like, I don't even know, go

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<v Speaker 1>to the drug store and buy black eyeshadow and rub

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<v Speaker 1>it all over the other shoe or something. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine walking around in public like that. And it's and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like she said, I think she said she

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<v Speaker 1>went through like half the day at work and just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was like, hey, Beth, I want to write, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this had to be when she was forty. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't worked at a place like that in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. She was young, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>sl like she was some like crazy old eighty year old,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, she really should have played it

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<v Speaker 1>off as she was like this fashion trendsetter wearing two

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<v Speaker 1>different colored shoes out in public, instead of just being

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed by it. Yeah, you should have power tripped the

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<v Speaker 1>person that called her out on anyway, side note from

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<v Speaker 1>mo Mom's closet, some other costumes you had. You were

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<v Speaker 1>Sully from Monsters, Inc. That was and Deity was like

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<v Speaker 1>KALs Lawski or whatever. That was fun too during that

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you so so anyway, of course, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>fear with using makeup is a lot of this Halloween makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the ones you get like at the Halloween store.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just the generic branch you've never heard of, and

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<v Speaker 1>and you just have to fear that it's just filled

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<v Speaker 1>with toxic shit, Like you don't really know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting on your kid's face, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I don't know, because do you worry

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<v Speaker 1>about I always see like vintage makeup at antique laws

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and I don't know, Like something about it

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<v Speaker 1>just screams like chemicals to me. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's different fears you could have. So number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a fear of getting bacterial infections. So

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<v Speaker 1>of course I buy like all this white cake makeup

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<v Speaker 1>and all this shit, like I have. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>nice collection of Halloween make that I just put in

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<v Speaker 1>the drawer and I literally, like this morning, just pulled

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 1>it out again, you know, because I'm not buying that

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>stuff every year. It's expensive and it's good, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of dermatologists recommend that you don't do that because

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<v Speaker 1>it could grow bacteria over the year and it could

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<v Speaker 1>cause irritation to the skin. But whatever, I don't know,

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Like when I see this makeup from the fifties and sixties.

0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm always compelled to buy them because I just think

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>they look really cool, that containers are awesome and everything.

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 1>But then I always think about the situation with Wizard

0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of Oz and how toxic the makeup was during that time.

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Well that's I mean, listen, it's still happening though today

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 1>that companies will buy some of these Halloween makeups and

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>do tests on them, and very recently they found that

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>there was lead in some of them. And lead is

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 1>really really bad. It's not good in any levels, and

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's considered a neurotoxin. Right. It's just bad to have kid,

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 1>especially children and that have a growing brain, be exposed

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to So they found not only lead, but just other

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>heavy metals too that could really be harmful. I mean,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the thing is is that the only way to avoid

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it is just to not use that stuff. And I

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>don't really know. I personally do try to get brands

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>like a Mac makeup or something that's like a little

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:30.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more tested and quality and everything else, just to

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>just to have a side because those things do worry

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.640
<v Speaker 1>me about what's in them, you know what I mean.

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>And at least with makeup brands that are sold like

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the bigger brands. There's a lot more testing and regulations

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.640
<v Speaker 1>with them now. I know they cost more. I mean,

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is is that now the cheap stuff

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is catching up with the expensive stuff, so it's not

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>too much of a price gap. But like I said,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>like if I buy white, it might cost a little

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>bit more, but then I save it aside and it's

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.160
<v Speaker 1>good for a couple of years, you know. I mean yeah,

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>especially like you used to work and to make used

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to be a makeup artist and stuff, so I feel

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>like you just know general care and everything and you're

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.719
<v Speaker 1>taking precautions. But I think people are just dipping all

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the brushes and oily skin, not washing the brushes, for

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>using them year after year of the year without like

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>taking all the precautions necessary. Yeah, the bacteria is just

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, you'll get zits or whatever. I'm I'm mostly

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>concerned with putting these weird chemicals on my kid's skin,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. And there's reason for that because the history,

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like you were saying with Wizard of Oz. Yeah, so

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to think when that movie came out in

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty nine, there's obviously no internet. You have to

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>think like movies are still relatively new. I'm pretty sure

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz was the first color movie ever made,

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>which is nuts to think about. And they don't, you know,

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't have the resources we have today, and they

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>had to do everything possible to make their special effects

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>look great because they didn't have computers. And they were like,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>this is the first color movie. Like this, shit's gonna

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>look vibrant. We don't care what we have to play

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on people's skin in order to make it look good. Yeah.

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So the first issue we have is with the tin Man.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So Buddy Ebsen, who was originally cast as a tin man,

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>only nine days into production he started having these horrific

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>breathing problems and then later found out it was due

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to the illuminum dust that they were putting on his face.

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>They give him the tin man metallic gene. Well, I think,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>so this is a little bit of a different situation

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>because I think the aluminum dust wasn't considered too necessary.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 1>It was considered to be safe at the time, So

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. They weren't intentionally bypassing standards. But what happens

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>is he was having so sometimes your body could have

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a reaction to breathing in either organic or inorganic materials,

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.639
<v Speaker 1>and it could cause you to get scarring or something

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>called pulmonary fibrosis in your lung or you could get

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a granuloma infection, which is your lungs are having this

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>reaction to the body like it sees this aluminum dust

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.959
<v Speaker 1>as being foreign, and then all of those little pieces

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of dust, your body kind of forms this scar tissue

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>around all of them, which having all that scar tissue

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in your lungs obviously causes difficulty breathing. And that might

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>not happen in every single person, but it's definitely a

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>cause for alarm because with this guy, he could have

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>really had permanent lung damage from that. Yeah, And I

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>mean they thought he just was having an allergic reaction

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to it, because, like you said, there was a certain

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>level of approval that the aluminum dust had had. I

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think they used to give it to minors to protect

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>They thought it would protect their lungs from certain diseases,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>so they didn't think anything was wrong giving it to

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>him on a Hollywood movie set. And then they were

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>just like, you know what, you're having a reaction, so

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna replace you with another actor. I think, So

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>now two people are exposed to two people. But on

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>top of that, the first guy is like, oh, I

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>also need a lung transplant, thanks, and I just lost

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>my job, yeah exactly, So you know, it's just messed up.

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And then most notably from that movie is Margaret Hamilton

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>who played the Wicked Witch of the West. So she

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>had that infamous green makeup on her that was extremely toxic. Yeah,

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>it was copper oxide. And so she had some situation

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>where she was in munchkin Land and there was some

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, when she would they would put up the

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>smoke and flames and things like that when she was

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>exiting the scene or entering the scene or something, and

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it caused her face to catch on fire basically, and

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>because the chemical is so toxic, they were using robbing

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>alcohol essentially to take it off of her during that incident,

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and she described that as as being the worst pain

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that she's ever felt in her life. Obviously sticking alcohol

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and open wounds like that on top of whatever the

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 1>hell is in that makeup. You know, it's kind of

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy because I was reading that they knew that this

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 1>makeup was tough to an extent because after she put

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>it on, they wouldn't let her eat because there was

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a fear of her ingesting it. Holy shit, and the

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>days were so long, so obviously she was getting hungry.

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>So she had to basically adhere to this liquid diet

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and drink out of a straw wow every time she

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was a makeup and then the makeup artists would really

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>try to carefully take it off because they knew it

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was toxic and they didn't want it on her skin

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>longer than it had to be. And then they said,

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>because of how potent I guess it was, her her

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>skin would be green for like four days because they

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>would remove all the surface level makeup, but it just

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>would it stained her skin. Well, luckily it was worth

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>all that because this is one of the best movies

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of all time, right, and yeah, but it'll ever be.

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't when it came out. Oh I know it

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>was a box off. No, I know it wasn't. But

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>like it it lived. It's just this historical thing. So

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>at least maybe all of that was worth it at

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>some point. I don't know. Wait so that, I mean,

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>how did she I actually never looked at how she died. Well,

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>if you want to look that up real quick. I'll

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>just tell you that. So after that happened, she wasn't

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>able to film for six weeks because she had to

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>heal from all the burns she had. And then afterwards,

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the producers seriously wanted her to do another scene with fire,

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to which she obviously said, I'm not doing that, So

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>they had this woman stand in for her during another

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>scene where they like throw the smoke and the fire

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>up and then you know, something went wrong of course

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>during that too, which gave that woman a huge gash.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>She also had burns from it and had to go

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to the er. And you know, I can't imagine how

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>much of that shit used to happen back in the day,

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and they were just like, you want this job, it's

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>risk your life kind of thing. Correct, The woman had

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a huge gash in bruising, not also burned from that,

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but there was still an incident on set and then yeah,

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, so she was eighty two when she died

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack. So she's just one of those

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>hardy humans that goes through a lot of shit throughout

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>their life. But apparently she it didn't affect her and

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>she didn't get any weird kind of cancer or anything

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>from that makeup. Maybe she did, but she survived through it.

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Can you just imagine, like, you know, you're working in

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>this new industry, you probably think it's really awesome, and

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>then they obviously know this makeup's poisonous, but they don't

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>have enough research to know anything about it, and I

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Then you get this horrific burn and at

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>least the role was iconic, you know, because what if

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you did this for a movie that never took off. Yeah, exactly,

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. And then a lot of people

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>think this movie is cursed because of those two incidents.

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, Judy Garland was sixteen when they

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>were filming it, and they were force feeding her pills

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to get through filming and telling her she was fat

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>even though she was like a size too, and giving

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 1>her all these pills and antidi presents and everything, and

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that gave her a lifelong pill addiction. So, speaking of curses,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Poultergeist. Do you know multiple people have

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>died before Poltergeist was even finished production and came out. Yeah,

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's really a crazy story. Yeah, So it's

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>just kind of nuts to think, like one movie. And

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, we were just talking about Wizard of Oz

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>being cursed, and I don't you know, you can't even

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>argue that this movie was cursed. Date one hundred percent

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of a problem. I've read that they're reading or using

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>real human skeletons as movie props. Obviously that's gonna create

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>a spooky Vibeok. Well, they were cheaper than getting fake

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 1>ones back in the day. They did outrageous I think

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>one eyed Willie from Gooeny's is a real skeleton. Like

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>they they used them all the time. There's plenty of

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>examples of it on movie sets. The one from Poltergeist

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>is so creepy because they're in water and then there's

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>putting like real skeletons next to the actors and stuff.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>It looks so creepy because they're real, you know. Yeah, So,

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>all right, a couple of people died that were worked

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>on the movie. So Will Sampson at fifty three year old.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Fifty three years old died from malnutrition in kidney failure

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>though he had scleroderma. What is that. That's when you

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>have a collagen deficiency. It's a disease that causes you

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to have hardening the skin. It could happen with the skin,

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>but also it could happen with the internal organs and

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they get like thickened and hardened, and it's it's difficult

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>for them to function properly. So he ended up getting

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>a heart and lung transplant because of the gloridarma, and

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>then he had kidney failure. As a result of that,

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he had a massive weight loss. He went from like

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty pounds to one hundred and forty pounds,

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and that's where the malnutrition came from. All right. Then

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>we have Julian Beck who died of stomach cancer at

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty years old. Yeah, she had stomach cancer, all right.

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>So then I just learned about this death in the

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Menendaz show that just came out on Netflix. So dominiqu Dune,

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>who was also in the movie. She died at twenty

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>two years old because she was strangled to death by

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend. And then most notably Heather O'Rourke who was

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>twelve years old when she died. Yeah did she die exactly? Oh,

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a really sad story. So she had her

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Her cause of death was from a ballol obstruction and sepsis, right,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>which means something was causing when she ate her food

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>couldn't go all the way through her DREI track and

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>she couldn't poop it out properly. She didn't present with

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>problems until like a year before she died, when she

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>started vomiting a lot and having all this stuff. And

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess the imaging at the time or whatever, they

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 1>decided that she had Crohn's disease. And then they gave

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>her steroid prednan zone for a long time use, which

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is not really recommended unless it's completely necessary. But she

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>got a very specific look on her face, which is

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>called a moonface. You see sometimes in people that are

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>on chronic steroid use. That you could see it in

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>her face, you know what I mean. Her face is

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>very large and looks like a moon. That's why it's

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>called a moonface. But what happens was she started she

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>was on that treatment and stuff, and she was having

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>all these issues, and then one day her mom thought

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that she was sick and called the doctor. They thought

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>she had the flu or something, and then her mom

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>noticed that she started turning blue and she fainted. They

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<v Speaker 1>called the ambulance, and the ambulance came, and when the

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>ambulance came. She just was concerned that she was going

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to miss school that day, so she was completely alert

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and awake, and then she went into cardiac arrest into

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the ambulance. She went to the hospital. They ended up

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>doing surgery and opening her up to see what the

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>problem was. And here she was misdiagnosed with Crone's disease.

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>She never had Crohn's disease. She had a bowel obstruction

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>from something that was wrong with her bow when she

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>was born. That if that was diagnosed properly, she could

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>have had surgery to remove that and never been on steroids, right,

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And what happens is that the bow was it was obstructed,

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>so the poop couldn't move through and it burst, and

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>then the bacteria from the bow got into her bloodstream

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and then she ended up it spread throughout her body.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>She got sepsis and she died. Absolutely horrible. Yeah, it's

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it is horrible. I mean, and this was in the eighties.

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't exactly know what the imaging was

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and the testing was and everything like that. But to

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>their defense, when a child has a bowel obstruction, it's

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>usually because of two different things. It's either number one,

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>something that they were born with, or it's something that

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was caused later in life like Crohne's disease, or if

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>they let's say, you ever hear of kids like swallowing

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>those Orbie beads, or like an obstruction the kid that

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>swallowed the Barbie dolls had we talked about a couple

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago. There are the things that you that

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you acquire throughout your life. But if a kid is

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>born with a bowel obstruction, they usually don't live to

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>be ten eleven years old and not have any issues

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>with that. So that when a child presents living ten

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>years of their life not having any GI issues and

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden they have an obstruction, the

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>doctor's not going to be thinking that it's congenital, because

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>if it was, it would have presented years prior. Right, Yeah,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>So but still you can't just assume and that's what happened.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But maybe I don't want to talk shit because I

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the imaging was at that time and

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>what it looked like. You know. Yeah, it's just but

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>it was sad, yeah, because she was so twelve years old,

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>so young a child. It's just really sad. And obviously

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we can say that all the incidents with Wizard of

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Oz were pretty much strictly linked to the filming of

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that movie. These were all just weird coincidences that all

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>happen to line up with the cast of Poltergeist, so

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just horrible to think about. Yeah, okay, guys, we

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say thank you so much because it has

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>been one year since Mother Knows Death launched. I can't

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>believe it's been a year already. I can't believe it either.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>It is truly flown by I am so extremely grateful

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>for the opportunities this show has brought us. We have

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.520
<v Speaker 1>gotten to interview some of our absolute dream guests, we

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>got to go to Crime Con earlier this year, and

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 1>now we have an exciting announcement. We are joining the

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>iHeart podcast network, specifically that Elvis duran podcast network, which

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>we are so thrilled. This has been in the works

0:37:56.400 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>for quite a long time, eight months something. Yeah, crazy,

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>but we love we love Elvis Durand's show, and we

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>love everyone that works with them too, and it's just

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just been such a great opportunity for us, and

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>we're just really excited to move forward. With everything. Yeah,

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's only going to make the show so

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>much better having new resources and you know, having their help.

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And we are officially going to be launching the show

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 1>as a show under the Elvis Durand Network this Tuesday,

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>November sixth. We are going to go to New York City,

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>go on the Big Show and have a fun discussion

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>with Elvis and the rest of the team over there. Yeah,

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>so make sure you listen to us on the Elvis

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Durant Show on Tuesday. Do you know what time? I

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>think we're slotted to be in the eight o'clock hour,

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>But we will have for information. Yeah, we'll definitely post

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 1>it on Instagram and everything like that. But yeah, just

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>like Elvis and his whole team, they're just they're just

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>so amazing, and they have Gandhi's got a spin off

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>show and Andrew's in it with her. You know, it's

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.799
<v Speaker 1>just it's just amazing. I love it. Yeah, So pretty much,

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>nothing's gonna change for you guys at all. The episodes

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>are gonna still be uploading the same exact way and everything,

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and we're nothing's gonna change. We're gonna be doing it

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>pretty much exactly the same. So We are just very

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>excited to have this collaboration and we're very thankful for

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>them to consider us for this and it's going to

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>be a really exciting future ahead for the show. And

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 1>if you guys enjoyed this episode, we're planning on doing

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>one for Thanksgiving and for Christmas. So if you have

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>any specific topics that you're interested in us talking about,

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just feel free to leave us a comment and we'll

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.960
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0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.880
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0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.160
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<v Speaker 1>winners tomorrow. Yes, and thank you so much. I'm really

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to this new year of Mother Knows Death. Yes,

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Happy Halloween and I hope you guys have a great weekend.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And happy birthday to my husband he's almost fifty. Thank

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you for listening. To Mother Knows Death as a reminder,

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.440
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0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.919
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0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.800
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0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.840
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0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.600
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0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.440
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