1 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Happy Halloween. Welcome the Mother Knows Death. We 2 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: have a very special Halloween themed episode for you guys today. 3 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with the best part of Halloween, which is 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the candy. Yes, the candy is the best part of Halloween. 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: I actually bought all my Halloween candy yesterday, and I 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: purposely didn't buy regular M and ms because I knew 7 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I would eat a million of them. Yeah, I'm really 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: regretting the bag, the giant bag I bought of Totti 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: rolls because I probably ate twenty of them between last 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: night and this morning. I did eat a shit ton 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: of tottsi Rolls too. Do you know that New Jersey 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: was voted to their favorite candy as tottsi Rolls? Really? 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: And some people think that that's so gross, but I 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: could they're like up there with that for sure. I 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: think people generally think I'm a grandmother, but really because 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: I eat so many Toati rolls and just do like 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: old people things like that. So I don't know. Everybody's 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: been making fun of me for eating You have bridge 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: mix in your house, that's no, that's that's the real 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: test of an old person. So with Halloween candy, there's 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: all of these different things that we need to be 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: aware of, unfortunately, because there's been some real life incidents 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: of things happening with them. And one of the biggest 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: things that's been happening for the past couple of years 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: is the DEA putting out alerts to be aware of 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: what drugs are going around that potentially could look like 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: candy to children. Yeah, so a couple of years ago, 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: we had written this huge post about, you know, the 29 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: dangers of Halloween candy in the grocery room, and you 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: included a picture of these ventanyl pills that were these 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: like small multi colored rainbow pills, right, and they look 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: exactly like those many sweet arts to me that you 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: could buy at the movie theater. You know, yeah, they 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: really do. So that's why they have to issue the 35 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: warning because they look just like candy and anything that 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: looks like that is going to be attractive to children, 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: you know. So. And another thing is is that they 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: found that people were smuggling drugs in through candy wrappers too, 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: so in bags of Skittles, in boxes of nerds, and listen, 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: I don't think that any I mean, you can't say 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: that because some other stories we're going to talk about 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: later this week. But in general, I can't see why 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: a person would intentionally give your child drugs because number one, 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: it's just gross and stadistic to poison a child or 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: to give a child drugs. But number two, why would 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: they give your child something that's worth so much more 47 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: than a box of nerds. I think the problem is 48 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: is that you go to there's fifty houses around your neighborhood, right, 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: and you go to all these houses, and you don't 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: know who lives in every single house, and there could 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: be a person there that also sell drugs or has 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: them in their house, and it could accidentally get mixed 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: in with the kids stuff. So that's I think that's 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the concern of that, more so than people intentionally trying 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to give it to kids. Yeah, and then generally there's 56 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: just the concern of choking because for a lot of 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: these Halloween candies, they're making them what they call like 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: fun size, so that you can give out these little 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: pieces and not everybody's having full sized bars. But I 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: feel like that also poses serious threats to little kids. 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: One of the biggest ones I was always scared of 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: is those little dumb dumb pops because they come on 63 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: a stick, but they're the perfect size circle for a 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: child to have an asphyxial death to choke on. And 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: there's been times when I was a kid, and even 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: as an adult, I don't really like them because they're 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: too the paper gets too wet and gross for me. 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm not not a huge fan of them now. But 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: as a kid, you know, just because the stick of 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: it is made out of paper, it disintegrates with your 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: saliva and the head of the lollipop could pop off 72 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: in a child's mouth, or if they chew on the 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: stick and it then it's a super huge choking hazard 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: because it's a perfect size for a child. And then 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: there's the foreign bodies, which, of course, when you're thinking 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: about it, we are typically talking about ones that people 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: are sticking in parts of their body where they really 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be down there. But of course there's children every 79 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: year that are sticking candy up their noses in their 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: ears apparently nerds clusters or like the number one candy 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: that fits best in the ear and causes a lot 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: of problems. And then there's this one story of this 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: child that went to the er because he stuck a 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: black jelly bean up his nose, and his parents weren't 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: able to get it out for hours. And when they 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: brought him to the hospital and they were finally able 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: to get it out, the parents were expecting him to find, 88 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, one solid jelly bean when they were removing it, 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: but it was this giant glob because the exterior candy 90 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: shell had melted off of it and it just started like, 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, just integrating slowly. So well, think about this 92 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: your bodies ninety eight degree, right, and then you put 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: a jelly bean on there, of course it's going to 94 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: kind of melt. It would be the same thing as 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: if you left it outside on a hot summer day. 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. It melted up in the kid's nose. 97 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: And for me personally, I love the smell of that 98 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: fake annis licorice smell, but most kids hate the black 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: jelly bean. Right, maybe you could put it up as 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: nose and that its need, But imagine just that smell 101 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: just being like stuck up your nose. I imagine even 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: when you take it out, it's just like a very 103 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: lingering smell. You know. It's interesting. Momm's favorite candy was 104 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: always good in plenty, and I always just just like 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: this lady is so freaking weird, Like she likes licorice flavor. 106 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: And another weird thing she does is she likes the 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: yellow part of the egg. She doesn't like the white part. 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: It just like blows my mind how weird that is. Well, 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, we went to Target yesterday to get candy. 110 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: So it's a day before Halloween. It's pretty slim pickings. 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: But there was like one variety bag that I consider 112 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: old people candy. That there was a ton of bags 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: of that because who wants that? Wait, which it was 114 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: like butterfingers, No, butter fingers are good, No, But it 115 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: was those weird those weird candies like almond es. I 116 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: really like Almondjoys, but it's considered an old person candy 117 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: for sure. The Mister Goodbar or whatever, you know, things 118 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, kids, I don't think kids really like 119 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: that stuff anymore. But the candies getting outrageously expensive, so 120 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: maybe that bag was cheaper. I was. I also, you know, 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: when we were at Target yes or, I also saw 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: all of the pretzel I hated getting pretzels or Anything's 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna say that too. There was there was like popcorn 124 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: like and it wasn't even buttery popcorn. It was just 125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: like no, no anything, no salt or anything popcorn, Like, Wow, 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: that's so much fun. They had a bag of ghost 127 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: shaped veggie straws, and I'm like, what kid wants veggie 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: straws on Halloween? Everybody wants candy. Somebody in our neighborhood 129 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: growing up, though, used to give out popcorn balls and 130 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: those were pretty good. Yeah, but a popcorn ball is 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a Rice Christ retreat made out of popcorn, right, Yeah, 132 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty so like of course, But getting back to it, Yeah, 133 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I've ever had the urge 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: as a child to stick anything into my ear or 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: my nose. But you hear about this all the time. 136 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: We see it all the time. Yeah, I don't know 137 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: if it's like a certain type of kid personality to 138 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: do something like that, or they just accidentally go up there. 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I also feel like I haven't had 140 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: the urge to stick. This happened to a kid once 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: when I was growing up that this kid apparently had 142 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: really bad breath all the time, and they couldn't figure 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: out why the kid had bad breath, And then they 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: found out that the kid had stuck a pee up 145 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: their nose months prior, and that's what was emitting the smell. 146 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: It's just it's just really funny, right that you hear 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: about that all the time. But the biggest thing with 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the foreign bodies though, is when people are sticking them 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: in candy bars. There's been documentation of that. Yeah, so 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, I I feel like we 151 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: checked my candy a little bit in the nineties, but 152 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: not crazy. But when you were a kid, were you 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: guys checking them a lot? Because there was a couple 154 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: incidents in like the you know, ten to fifteen years 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: before you were born, that some really horrible things happened. 156 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: So Momum and Papa click on top of it. Yeah, 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean we checker treated in our neighborhood, and I'm 158 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: pretty sure that we knew every single house that we 159 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: went to because we just lived in a little development 160 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and we knew almost every single person. But I think, 161 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: like looking back as an adult, I'm like, oh, Pop 162 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Pop was totally checking my candy because he was like, 163 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: what's in here that I want? I'm going to take 164 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: out everything. It's a pretty good tactic, Honestly, it is 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: the tactic I do it with my kids all the time. 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: But it's completely bullshit. I'm not really looking for anything. 167 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm just looking for what for what I want. But 168 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: now it's like whatever. They go to bed and I 169 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: still read their shit. But yeah, so they did check. 170 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: And I do remember mo Mom saying, because I always 171 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: was like, what are you looking for? And they were 172 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: like razor blades, razor blades, sewing needles, things like that. 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: So so apparently this like fear started in the sixties 174 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: because in nineteen sixty four, this woman in New York 175 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: was arrested for giving children ant bait, dog biscuits and 176 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: steel woolpads, not all with warning labels that they were poisonous. So, 177 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, how nice of her, how nice. But I 178 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: think in her case, she was just like hated Halloween. 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: She was very annoyed by the whole thing, obviously mentally disturbed, 180 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: so that's the route she thought she needed a take, 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: which is horrible. And then a couple of years later 182 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: in Toronto police were finding razor blades in Halloween apples. 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: So I guess when you were younger, giving away candied 184 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: apples or maybe in like, you know, the fifties, sixties 185 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: was like a bigger thing. So I'm assuming that started 186 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: fading out because people started not trusting homemade goods anymore. Yeah, 187 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: we used to get We had a house that gave 188 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: out candied apples too, But now, like thinking about the 189 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of people that are going to be coming to 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: my house tonight, Like, who the hell is time for 191 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: that shit anymore? That's like if you live in a 192 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: small neighborhood where you ten kids are coming by, you 193 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: know whatever. Well, I was also thinking, like, you know, 194 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: when you were a little kid in the eighties, it 195 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: was different and you know all your neighbors and everything, 196 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Like I know maybe one or two of my neighbors 197 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: out of twenty houses, right, Like, how do you people 198 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: don't talk to each other like that anymore? I just 199 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: think it depends where you live, you know what I mean, 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: That's just what it boils down to. I agree, I 201 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: know less people in my neighborhood now, although I do 202 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of my neighbors. But yeah, i'd be 203 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: like I said, we lived in a development that was 204 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: built and everybody that moved in in the seventies all 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: had children. I mean my bus stop had my bus 206 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: alone was just from our neighborhood was filled with kids, 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: so you just know everyone and we all most of 208 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: us went to the public school and everything, so it 209 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: just that's how you know everybody, you know what I mean. 210 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: But now it's just different because kids go to other 211 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: schools and things like that, you know what I mean. 212 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: It's insane to me that that many children were in 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: your neighborhood growing up, because every year I leave out 214 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: a bowl of candy and it's always more than half 215 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: full by the time I get home. I'm like, not 216 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: even one of you just wants to take the whole 217 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: thing and dump it in your bag so I don't 218 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: have to sit here and eat this for the next 219 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: couple of bloods. I don't know. Yeah, it is, it's 220 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: but it just depends where you live, you know, because 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: when we first moved in here, there was a lot 222 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: more old people on the street, and then it's you know, 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: it's transitioning into newer families moving in younger kids, and 224 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the whole towns like that. So that's just that's just 225 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: how it goes. But I do have a picture in 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: the gross room of a sewing needle and a kit cat. 227 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: That is that a real Because I know that a 228 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of rumors also spread and maybe this isn't one 229 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent true that people were actually doing that. You know, 230 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: you always have to assume there's some mentally disturbed individuals 231 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: that are gonna go to these lengths right by putting 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: stuff in the Halloween candy. Like you said, I don't 233 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: understand the point of it, especially with drugs, Like you're 234 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: just wasting money giving them to children, And like, what's 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the point of taking out the children in your neighborhood. 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get caught. Like the most notable 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: case of Halloween candy which did result in death was 238 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: his father who poisoned his own child with pixie sticks, 239 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: but he was also trying to poison his friend's two 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: kids and another neighborhood boy. Yeah, and this is the 241 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: only out of all these stories that we hear on 242 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: the news about like watch your kids candy, this, that, 243 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: and the other, this is the only one that we 244 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: know of that has actually resulted in a death of 245 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: a child during Halloween. Yeah, And what happened in this case, 246 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: if you guys aren't familiar with it, is these two 247 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: dads in nineteen seventy four took their kids trick or treating, 248 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: which I thought was unusual for the time, Like when 249 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: did you see two dads alone taking kids trick or 250 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: treating in the seventies. But anyway, they get they approached 251 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: and did you see a parent trick or treating in 252 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: the seventies. I know this is like, this is like, oh, 253 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: you're old enough the walk go trick or treating by yourself. 254 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: That's how it was in the seventies. You were five 255 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: years old. And they're just like, see you later, one 256 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yes. So in this case, these two dads 257 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: are walking around, they each have two kids, and they 258 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: approach this dark house and nobody answers the door. So 259 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: one of the dads says he's going to stick around 260 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: and see if somebody answers the door, which like red 261 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: flag number one. They go to the next house, and 262 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: then suddenly that dad appears and goes, oh, somebody did 263 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: crack the door open, and they handed me these five 264 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: pixie sticks. So they give two pixie sticks. They give 265 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: one pixie stick each to that guy's two kids, the 266 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: friends two kids, and then another neighborhood boy. So later 267 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: that night they're all at their respective houses and the 268 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: friend said to his kids, you know, I really don't 269 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: want you eating any candy before bed, which, like I 270 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: know they're are probably annoyed at the time, but extremely 271 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: great character. And then the guy that got the pixie 272 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: sticks from this alleged dark house pretty much force fed 273 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: his son this pixie stick, which when he was emptying 274 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: it out noticed it was clumpy. And if anybody's had 275 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: a pixie stick, you know, it's this really fine powdered 276 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: sugar type of candy, so there definitely shouldn't be clumps 277 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, maybe you should describe what a pixie 278 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: stick is in case people don't know what they are. 279 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: It's like this plastic tube filled with this powdered sugar 280 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: candy essentially, so if you're opening the tube and there's 281 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: clumps in it, that shouldn't seem right to you because 282 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: it's this ultra fine powder. I wonder if in the 283 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: seventies if they were plastic tubes or if they were 284 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: the paper ones. Well, regardless, they're a straw that's made 285 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: out of either paper or plastic that's just filled with 286 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: flavored sugar basically, and these ones also happen to be 287 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: like stapled shut, which another red flag. It's clearly the 288 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: baggage was tampered with. But this guy force fed his 289 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: child this Pixi stick. The child died within an hour 290 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: and ended up being from cyanide poisoning that was in 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: the Pixy sticks. So the other parents of the kids 292 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: that got the sticks, you know, are freaking out. The 293 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: friends like, thank god that I never fed my kid 294 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: or I didn't let them have candy before bed. And 295 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: then the other neighbor was running around their house trying 296 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: to find this Pixi stick and when they got in 297 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: their kids room, he literally literally was asleep on the 298 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: bed holding it in his hand but had not yet 299 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: opened it, like thank god. So, yeah, they found out 300 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: this guy put cyanide in all of them. That the 301 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: one of the dads, because he had significant debt, about 302 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: half a million dollars in today's money of debt, and 303 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: he took out life insurance policies on his own children 304 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: and the poison the pictures. What a scumbag. Also, you 305 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get caught with the life insurance polosie, 306 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Well? And this is this is 307 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: how they figured this out. So the kid, the kid 308 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: got very sick, and had he he started vomiting and 309 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: having abdominal pain moments within and this pixie stick fainted 310 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: in his dad's arms, was brought to the hospital and 311 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: was dead within one hour. And when his body so 312 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: in that case all the time like they're going to 313 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: do an autopsy, and of course suspicion's going to be 314 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: high when the medical examiners asking, like what was the 315 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: kid doing? What happened and they say, oh, he was 316 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: eating his Halloween candi. So for anyone that does autopsies, 317 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: your your red flags go up of like it was 318 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: this kid poisoned somehow, some acute poisoning that occurred very quickly. 319 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: And when they were doing the autopsy, the coroner had 320 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: smelled the kid's breath and smelled almonds on his breath. 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: And one of the really interesting things with cyanide is 322 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: that there's a small percentage of the population, well not 323 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: a small percent, but a lot of people are able 324 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: to smell almonds when a person has been poisoned with cyanide, 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: but some people can't smell it. It's kind of similar 326 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: to asparagus. Asparagus p like, if you eat asparagus, some 327 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: times you could smell it. Very strong, and other people 328 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: don't smell it at all. I remember Lucia when she 329 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: was a baby, I gave her asparagus and changed her diaper, 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: and it like the smell of it just whacked me 331 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: in the face. I just I'm able to smell it, 332 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: but some people just aren't able to smell it. So 333 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: it's really interesting. So even though smelling cyanide is definitely 334 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: puts off alarms for a corner, every corner can't smell it, 335 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: and it's not one hundred percent something that would diagnose it, 336 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: but it definitely clues you in. Another thing is is 337 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: the live or mortis. So when you die, all of 338 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: the blood that's in your blood vessels kind of falls 339 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: down to the dependent areas of your body where you're laying, 340 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: and usually it's like a purplish reddish color, but in 341 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: cases of cyanide, along with carbon monoxide poisoning, it turns 342 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: bright red and that's also a clue, and then they're 343 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: able to do toxicology to see And it ended up 344 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: that this kid had enough to kill two adults in 345 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: his system. That's how much. And I was in a system, 346 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: which is why he dropped dead within an hour It's 347 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: just disgusting that you would resort to doing something like 348 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: that to pay off debt. And like, you know you're 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: getting caught when you take out a life insurance policy. 350 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: You're obviously the most guilty person if you're taking one 351 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: out on an eight year old little kid, Like what 352 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: are you even doing? Also, just like okay, so what 353 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: you don't get caught, Like how do you really live 354 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: with yourself? I don't know. And you're like a serious sociopath. 355 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: It seems like he was trying to not only kill 356 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: that child, but his other kid too, So it's like 357 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna kill both kids. And his wife was saying 358 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: that he basically force fed this pixie stick to their son. 359 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: He didn't even want it, so he was actively still 360 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: married to the mom. Yeah, I believe. I just can't 361 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: even could you just like imagine that really? I mean 362 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: clearly they there was probably like a lot of other 363 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: signs with this guy before he did this. But so 364 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: he was put to death by lethal injection March thirty first, 365 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, about ten years after the end, So 366 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: good piece of shit. So this episode is brought to 367 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: you by the Grosser Room. Guys. This is the season 368 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: of skulls and blood and guts. But in the Grosser Room, 369 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: it is Halloween twenty four to seven, three hundred and 370 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: sixty five days a year, So you want to join us. 371 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. It's only five ninety nine 372 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: a month, so visit the Grossroom dot com for more 373 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: info and to sign up. Let's talk about makeup. Oh, Halloween. 374 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Makeup is my favorite part of Halloween, like doing your 375 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: makeup when you were a kid. Let's talk about some 376 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: of your your Halloween costumes. Did you see on Instagram? 377 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: I posted one of my favorite ones as a child, 378 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: when I was just as the Yellow Eminem. Oh yeah, 379 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the Yellow Eminem's good. But that that wasn't so you. 380 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: I had made you a costume for Nightmare before Christmas Sally, 381 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: before that was even a thing that they sold the costumes. 382 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: I made the whole entire thing out of momm's clothes. 383 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I took a bunch of her shirts and cut them 384 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: up and made you a patchwork dress, and I had 385 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: stockings that I drew stitches on, and it just looked 386 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: so awesome. Of course, there's no photographs of it because wait, 387 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: so it was the nineties. Did you just go at 388 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: her drawers and take a bunch of shirts out with her. 389 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: She didn't even know, dude, that lady is insane. She's 390 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: the most insane person I ever met. She goes to 391 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the store and buys so much clothes and they're all 392 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: hanging in her closet with tag still on it. Like 393 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: I could go to her closet right now and take 394 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: ten items out of her closet and she wouldn't even 395 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: notice they were missing. I sent Didy this video on 396 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Instagram the other day that this guy took all of 397 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: his mom's shoes out of her closet and they lined 398 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: them in the entire upstairs at their house. And I 399 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: think she had over two hundred pairs of shoes or something. 400 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: So I sent it Toddy and I just wrote momm 401 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: and she said yeah, and none of them are comfortable, 402 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: which not one, not one. While the best thing about 403 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: momm and her shoes, though, is that she had these 404 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: these like booties, and one pair was black and one 405 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: pair was brown, but they were the same as ex shoes. 406 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: And one day she went all the way to work 407 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: wearing one black shoe and one brown shoe. Like would you, 408 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: I would I don't even know what I would do. 409 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: I would I would like, I don't even know, go 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: to the drug store and buy black eyeshadow and rub 411 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: it all over the other shoe or something. I can't 412 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: imagine walking around in public like that. And it's and 413 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just like she said, I think she said she 414 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: went through like half the day at work and just 415 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: somebody was like, hey, Beth, I want to write, you know, 416 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: and this had to be when she was forty. I mean, 417 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: she hasn't worked at a place like that in a 418 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: long time. She was young, you know what I mean, 419 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: sl like she was some like crazy old eighty year old, 420 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, she really should have played it 421 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: off as she was like this fashion trendsetter wearing two 422 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: different colored shoes out in public, instead of just being 423 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: embarrassed by it. Yeah, you should have power tripped the 424 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: person that called her out on anyway, side note from 425 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: mo Mom's closet, some other costumes you had. You were 426 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: Sully from Monsters, Inc. That was and Deity was like 427 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: KALs Lawski or whatever. That was fun too during that 428 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, you so so anyway, of course, the biggest 429 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: fear with using makeup is a lot of this Halloween makeup, 430 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: especially the ones you get like at the Halloween store. 431 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: They're just the generic branch you've never heard of, and 432 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: and you just have to fear that it's just filled 433 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: with toxic shit, Like you don't really know what you're 434 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: putting on your kid's face, you know what I mean? Yeah, 435 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: And I mean I don't know, because do you worry 436 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: about I always see like vintage makeup at antique laws 437 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I don't know, Like something about it 438 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: just screams like chemicals to me. Yeah, I mean, I 439 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: mean there's different fears you could have. So number one, 440 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: you could have a fear of getting bacterial infections. So 441 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: of course I buy like all this white cake makeup 442 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: and all this shit, like I have. I have a 443 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: nice collection of Halloween make that I just put in 444 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the drawer and I literally, like this morning, just pulled 445 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: it out again, you know, because I'm not buying that 446 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: stuff every year. It's expensive and it's good, but a 447 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: lot of dermatologists recommend that you don't do that because 448 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: it could grow bacteria over the year and it could 449 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: cause irritation to the skin. But whatever, I don't know, 450 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: Like when I see this makeup from the fifties and sixties. 451 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm always compelled to buy them because I just think 452 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: they look really cool, that containers are awesome and everything. 453 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: But then I always think about the situation with Wizard 454 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: of Oz and how toxic the makeup was during that time. 455 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, listen, it's still happening though today 456 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: that companies will buy some of these Halloween makeups and 457 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: do tests on them, and very recently they found that 458 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: there was lead in some of them. And lead is 459 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: really really bad. It's not good in any levels, and 460 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: it's considered a neurotoxin. Right. It's just bad to have kid, 461 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: especially children and that have a growing brain, be exposed 462 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: to So they found not only lead, but just other 463 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: heavy metals too that could really be harmful. I mean, 464 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the thing is is that the only way to avoid 465 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: it is just to not use that stuff. And I 466 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: don't really know. I personally do try to get brands 467 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: like a Mac makeup or something that's like a little 468 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: bit more tested and quality and everything else, just to 469 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: just to have a side because those things do worry 470 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: me about what's in them, you know what I mean. 471 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: And at least with makeup brands that are sold like 472 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the bigger brands. There's a lot more testing and regulations 473 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: with them now. I know they cost more. I mean, 474 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that now the cheap stuff 475 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: is catching up with the expensive stuff, so it's not 476 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: too much of a price gap. But like I said, 477 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: like if I buy white, it might cost a little 478 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: bit more, but then I save it aside and it's 479 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: good for a couple of years, you know. I mean yeah, 480 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: especially like you used to work and to make used 481 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: to be a makeup artist and stuff, so I feel 482 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: like you just know general care and everything and you're 483 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: taking precautions. But I think people are just dipping all 484 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: the brushes and oily skin, not washing the brushes, for 485 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: using them year after year of the year without like 486 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: taking all the precautions necessary. Yeah, the bacteria is just 487 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: like whatever, you'll get zits or whatever. I'm I'm mostly 488 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: concerned with putting these weird chemicals on my kid's skin, 489 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: you know. And there's reason for that because the history, 490 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: like you were saying with Wizard of Oz. Yeah, so 491 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: you have to think when that movie came out in 492 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, there's obviously no internet. You have to 493 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: think like movies are still relatively new. I'm pretty sure 494 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz was the first color movie ever made, 495 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: which is nuts to think about. And they don't, you know, 496 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: they don't have the resources we have today, and they 497 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: had to do everything possible to make their special effects 498 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: look great because they didn't have computers. And they were like, 499 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: this is the first color movie. Like this, shit's gonna 500 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: look vibrant. We don't care what we have to play 501 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: on people's skin in order to make it look good. Yeah. 502 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: So the first issue we have is with the tin Man. 503 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: So Buddy Ebsen, who was originally cast as a tin man, 504 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: only nine days into production he started having these horrific 505 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: breathing problems and then later found out it was due 506 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: to the illuminum dust that they were putting on his face. 507 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: They give him the tin man metallic gene. Well, I think, 508 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: so this is a little bit of a different situation 509 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: because I think the aluminum dust wasn't considered too necessary. 510 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: It was considered to be safe at the time, So 511 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: they weren't. They weren't intentionally bypassing standards. But what happens 512 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: is he was having so sometimes your body could have 513 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: a reaction to breathing in either organic or inorganic materials, 514 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: and it could cause you to get scarring or something 515 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: called pulmonary fibrosis in your lung or you could get 516 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: a granuloma infection, which is your lungs are having this 517 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: reaction to the body like it sees this aluminum dust 518 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: as being foreign, and then all of those little pieces 519 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: of dust, your body kind of forms this scar tissue 520 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: around all of them, which having all that scar tissue 521 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: in your lungs obviously causes difficulty breathing. And that might 522 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: not happen in every single person, but it's definitely a 523 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: cause for alarm because with this guy, he could have 524 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: really had permanent lung damage from that. Yeah, And I 525 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: mean they thought he just was having an allergic reaction 526 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: to it, because, like you said, there was a certain 527 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: level of approval that the aluminum dust had had. I 528 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: think they used to give it to minors to protect 529 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: They thought it would protect their lungs from certain diseases, 530 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: so they didn't think anything was wrong giving it to 531 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: him on a Hollywood movie set. And then they were 532 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: just like, you know what, you're having a reaction, so 533 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna replace you with another actor. I think, So 534 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: now two people are exposed to two people. But on 535 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: top of that, the first guy is like, oh, I 536 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: also need a lung transplant, thanks, and I just lost 537 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: my job, yeah exactly, So you know, it's just messed up. 538 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: And then most notably from that movie is Margaret Hamilton 539 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: who played the Wicked Witch of the West. So she 540 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: had that infamous green makeup on her that was extremely toxic. Yeah, 541 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: it was copper oxide. And so she had some situation 542 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: where she was in munchkin Land and there was some 543 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: you know, when she would they would put up the 544 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: smoke and flames and things like that when she was 545 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: exiting the scene or entering the scene or something, and 546 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: it caused her face to catch on fire basically, and 547 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: because the chemical is so toxic, they were using robbing 548 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: alcohol essentially to take it off of her during that incident, 549 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and she described that as as being the worst pain 550 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: that she's ever felt in her life. Obviously sticking alcohol 551 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and open wounds like that on top of whatever the 552 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: hell is in that makeup. You know, it's kind of 553 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: crazy because I was reading that they knew that this 554 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: makeup was tough to an extent because after she put 555 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: it on, they wouldn't let her eat because there was 556 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: a fear of her ingesting it. Holy shit, and the 557 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: days were so long, so obviously she was getting hungry. 558 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: So she had to basically adhere to this liquid diet 559 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: and drink out of a straw wow every time she 560 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: was a makeup and then the makeup artists would really 561 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: try to carefully take it off because they knew it 562 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: was toxic and they didn't want it on her skin 563 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: longer than it had to be. And then they said, 564 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: because of how potent I guess it was, her her 565 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: skin would be green for like four days because they 566 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: would remove all the surface level makeup, but it just 567 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: would it stained her skin. Well, luckily it was worth 568 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: all that because this is one of the best movies 569 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: of all time, right, and yeah, but it'll ever be. 570 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't when it came out. Oh I know it 571 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: was a box off. No, I know it wasn't. But 572 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: like it it lived. It's just this historical thing. So 573 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: at least maybe all of that was worth it at 574 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: some point. I don't know. Wait so that, I mean, 575 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: how did she I actually never looked at how she died. Well, 576 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: if you want to look that up real quick. I'll 577 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: just tell you that. So after that happened, she wasn't 578 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: able to film for six weeks because she had to 579 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: heal from all the burns she had. And then afterwards, 580 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: the producers seriously wanted her to do another scene with fire, 581 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: to which she obviously said, I'm not doing that, So 582 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: they had this woman stand in for her during another 583 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: scene where they like throw the smoke and the fire 584 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: up and then you know, something went wrong of course 585 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: during that too, which gave that woman a huge gash. 586 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: She also had burns from it and had to go 587 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: to the er. And you know, I can't imagine how 588 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: much of that shit used to happen back in the day, 589 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: and they were just like, you want this job, it's 590 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: risk your life kind of thing. Correct, The woman had 591 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: a huge gash in bruising, not also burned from that, 592 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: but there was still an incident on set and then yeah, 593 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, so she was eighty two when she died 594 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: of a heart attack. So she's just one of those 595 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: hardy humans that goes through a lot of shit throughout 596 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: their life. But apparently she it didn't affect her and 597 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: she didn't get any weird kind of cancer or anything 598 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: from that makeup. Maybe she did, but she survived through it. 599 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Can you just imagine, like, you know, you're working in 600 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: this new industry, you probably think it's really awesome, and 601 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: then they obviously know this makeup's poisonous, but they don't 602 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: have enough research to know anything about it, and I 603 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: don't know. Then you get this horrific burn and at 604 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: least the role was iconic, you know, because what if 605 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: you did this for a movie that never took off. Yeah, exactly, 606 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And then a lot of people 607 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: think this movie is cursed because of those two incidents. 608 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, Judy Garland was sixteen when they 609 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: were filming it, and they were force feeding her pills 610 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: to get through filming and telling her she was fat 611 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: even though she was like a size too, and giving 612 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: her all these pills and antidi presents and everything, and 613 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: that gave her a lifelong pill addiction. So, speaking of curses, 614 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: let's talk about Poultergeist. Do you know multiple people have 615 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: died before Poltergeist was even finished production and came out. Yeah, 616 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: it is. It's really a crazy story. Yeah, So it's 617 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: just kind of nuts to think, like one movie. And 618 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, we were just talking about Wizard of Oz 619 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: being cursed, and I don't you know, you can't even 620 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: argue that this movie was cursed. Date one hundred percent 621 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: of a problem. I've read that they're reading or using 622 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: real human skeletons as movie props. Obviously that's gonna create 623 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: a spooky Vibeok. Well, they were cheaper than getting fake 624 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: ones back in the day. They did outrageous I think 625 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: one eyed Willie from Gooeny's is a real skeleton. Like 626 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: they they used them all the time. There's plenty of 627 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: examples of it on movie sets. The one from Poltergeist 628 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: is so creepy because they're in water and then there's 629 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: putting like real skeletons next to the actors and stuff. 630 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: It looks so creepy because they're real, you know. Yeah, So, 631 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: all right, a couple of people died that were worked 632 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: on the movie. So Will Sampson at fifty three year old. 633 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: Fifty three years old died from malnutrition in kidney failure 634 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: though he had scleroderma. What is that. That's when you 635 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: have a collagen deficiency. It's a disease that causes you 636 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: to have hardening the skin. It could happen with the skin, 637 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: but also it could happen with the internal organs and 638 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: they get like thickened and hardened, and it's it's difficult 639 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: for them to function properly. So he ended up getting 640 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: a heart and lung transplant because of the gloridarma, and 641 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: then he had kidney failure. As a result of that, 642 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: he had a massive weight loss. He went from like 643 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds to one hundred and forty pounds, 644 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: and that's where the malnutrition came from. All right. Then 645 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: we have Julian Beck who died of stomach cancer at 646 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: sixty years old. Yeah, she had stomach cancer, all right. 647 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: So then I just learned about this death in the 648 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: Menendaz show that just came out on Netflix. So dominiqu Dune, 649 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: who was also in the movie. She died at twenty 650 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: two years old because she was strangled to death by 651 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: her boyfriend. And then most notably Heather O'Rourke who was 652 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: twelve years old when she died. Yeah did she die exactly? Oh, 653 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: this is a really sad story. So she had her 654 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Her cause of death was from a ballol obstruction and sepsis, right, 655 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: which means something was causing when she ate her food 656 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: couldn't go all the way through her DREI track and 657 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: she couldn't poop it out properly. She didn't present with 658 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: problems until like a year before she died, when she 659 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: started vomiting a lot and having all this stuff. And 660 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: I guess the imaging at the time or whatever, they 661 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: decided that she had Crohn's disease. And then they gave 662 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: her steroid prednan zone for a long time use, which 663 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: is not really recommended unless it's completely necessary. But she 664 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: got a very specific look on her face, which is 665 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: called a moonface. You see sometimes in people that are 666 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: on chronic steroid use. That you could see it in 667 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: her face, you know what I mean. Her face is 668 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: very large and looks like a moon. That's why it's 669 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: called a moonface. But what happens was she started she 670 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: was on that treatment and stuff, and she was having 671 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: all these issues, and then one day her mom thought 672 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: that she was sick and called the doctor. They thought 673 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: she had the flu or something, and then her mom 674 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: noticed that she started turning blue and she fainted. They 675 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: called the ambulance, and the ambulance came, and when the 676 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: ambulance came. She just was concerned that she was going 677 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: to miss school that day, so she was completely alert 678 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: and awake, and then she went into cardiac arrest into 679 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: the ambulance. She went to the hospital. They ended up 680 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: doing surgery and opening her up to see what the 681 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: problem was. And here she was misdiagnosed with Crone's disease. 682 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: She never had Crohn's disease. She had a bowel obstruction 683 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: from something that was wrong with her bow when she 684 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: was born. That if that was diagnosed properly, she could 685 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: have had surgery to remove that and never been on steroids, right, 686 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: And what happens is that the bow was it was obstructed, 687 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: so the poop couldn't move through and it burst, and 688 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: then the bacteria from the bow got into her bloodstream 689 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: and then she ended up it spread throughout her body. 690 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: She got sepsis and she died. Absolutely horrible. Yeah, it's 691 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: it is horrible. I mean, and this was in the eighties. 692 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't I don't exactly know what the imaging was 693 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: and the testing was and everything like that. But to 694 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: their defense, when a child has a bowel obstruction, it's 695 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: usually because of two different things. It's either number one, 696 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: something that they were born with, or it's something that 697 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: was caused later in life like Crohne's disease, or if 698 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: they let's say, you ever hear of kids like swallowing 699 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: those Orbie beads, or like an obstruction the kid that 700 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: swallowed the Barbie dolls had we talked about a couple 701 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. There are the things that you that 702 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: you acquire throughout your life. But if a kid is 703 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: born with a bowel obstruction, they usually don't live to 704 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: be ten eleven years old and not have any issues 705 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: with that. So that when a child presents living ten 706 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: years of their life not having any GI issues and 707 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they have an obstruction, the 708 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: doctor's not going to be thinking that it's congenital, because 709 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: if it was, it would have presented years prior. Right, Yeah, 710 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: So but still you can't just assume and that's what happened. 711 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: But maybe I don't want to talk shit because I 712 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: don't know what the imaging was at that time and 713 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: what it looked like. You know. Yeah, it's just but 714 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: it was sad, yeah, because she was so twelve years old, 715 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: so young a child. It's just really sad. And obviously 716 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: we can say that all the incidents with Wizard of 717 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: Oz were pretty much strictly linked to the filming of 718 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: that movie. These were all just weird coincidences that all 719 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: happen to line up with the cast of Poltergeist, so 720 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: it's just horrible to think about. Yeah, okay, guys, we 721 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you so much because it has 722 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: been one year since Mother Knows Death launched. I can't 723 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: believe it's been a year already. I can't believe it either. 724 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: It is truly flown by I am so extremely grateful 725 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: for the opportunities this show has brought us. We have 726 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: gotten to interview some of our absolute dream guests, we 727 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: got to go to Crime Con earlier this year, and 728 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: now we have an exciting announcement. We are joining the 729 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: iHeart podcast network, specifically that Elvis duran podcast network, which 730 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: we are so thrilled. This has been in the works 731 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: for quite a long time, eight months something. Yeah, crazy, 732 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: but we love we love Elvis Durand's show, and we 733 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: love everyone that works with them too, and it's just 734 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: it's just been such a great opportunity for us, and 735 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: we're just really excited to move forward. With everything. Yeah, 736 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's only going to make the show so 737 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: much better having new resources and you know, having their help. 738 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: And we are officially going to be launching the show 739 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: as a show under the Elvis Durand Network this Tuesday, 740 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: November sixth. We are going to go to New York City, 741 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: go on the Big Show and have a fun discussion 742 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: with Elvis and the rest of the team over there. Yeah, 743 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: so make sure you listen to us on the Elvis 744 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: Durant Show on Tuesday. Do you know what time? I 745 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: think we're slotted to be in the eight o'clock hour, 746 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: But we will have for information. Yeah, we'll definitely post 747 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: it on Instagram and everything like that. But yeah, just 748 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: like Elvis and his whole team, they're just they're just 749 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: so amazing, and they have Gandhi's got a spin off 750 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: show and Andrew's in it with her. You know, it's 751 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: just it's just amazing. I love it. Yeah, So pretty much, 752 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna change for you guys at all. The episodes 753 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: are gonna still be uploading the same exact way and everything, 754 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: and we're nothing's gonna change. We're gonna be doing it 755 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: pretty much exactly the same. So We are just very 756 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: excited to have this collaboration and we're very thankful for 757 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: them to consider us for this and it's going to 758 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: be a really exciting future ahead for the show. And 759 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 1: if you guys enjoyed this episode, we're planning on doing 760 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: one for Thanksgiving and for Christmas. So if you have 761 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: any specific topics that you're interested in us talking about, 762 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: just feel free to leave us a comment and we'll 763 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: look into it because we are always looking for really 764 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: interesting stuff to talk about. Yeah, so, if you have 765 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: a story you want to submit, or a guest, or 766 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: you have a shocking story, please submit them to stories 767 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: at mothernowsdeth dot com. Also, today is the last day 768 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: to enter the Giant Microbs giveaway, so either leave us 769 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: a written review on Apple or subscribe to our YouTube channel, 770 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: screenshot that and email it to stories at mothernowsdet dot 771 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: com for your submit we will be emailing all the 772 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: winners tomorrow. Yes, and thank you so much. I'm really 773 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: looking forward to this new year of Mother Knows Death. Yes, 774 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: Happy Halloween and I hope you guys have a great weekend. 775 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: And happy birthday to my husband he's almost fifty. Thank 776 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: you for listening. To Mother Knows Death as a reminder, 777 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a 778 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. 779 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed 780 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of 781 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social 782 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based 783 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 1: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make 784 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember 785 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed 786 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those 787 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having 788 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a 789 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent 790 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: care center, emergency room, or hospital. 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