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Speaker 1: got knocked out over the weekend. The Lions and Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford are parting ways. The biggest surprise is not that
Speaker 1: they're parting ways, that they publicly announced their parting ways.
Speaker 1: And why would you lose leverage if you're the Lions? Well,
Speaker 1: you lose everything else, so why don't you lose some
Speaker 1: leverage here? Buccaneers over the Packers, Chiefs beat the Bills.
Speaker 1: Come up with the poll question, play of the day,
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Speaker 1: affiliates around the country. You know, the conversation coming into
Speaker 1: Championship weekend was what if Tom Brady is able to
Speaker 1: take the Buccaneers to the super Bowl, there would be
Speaker 1: no more conversation, no more goat debate. We'd officially put
Speaker 1: it to rest. I don't know if that was ever
Speaker 1: a conversation people were having that Brady's not the goat,
Speaker 1: but that's what I was told. Well, that'll certainly put
Speaker 1: it to rest if you look at what he's going
Speaker 1: to go through this year. If he beats Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: he beats Aaron Rodgers, he beats Patrick Mahomes. Okay, he
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to beat Patrick Mahomes in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There's no conversation about the goat. But the Bucks beat
Speaker 1: the Packers, and now Brady's headed to his tenth Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and the goat debate it's really never over when you
Speaker 1: think about it. You know, Joe Montana was the goat
Speaker 1: before Brady, and Brady probably not gonna have to wait
Speaker 1: that long before Patrick Mahomes is involved in the goat conversation.
Speaker 1: He's nowhere near Tom Brady. But a few quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: achieved as much success as Mahomes has this early in
Speaker 1: their careers. And I know I'm getting ahead of myself myself,
Speaker 1: but we got two weeks to talk about legacy, and
Speaker 1: normally on Monday we talk about the teams that didn't win,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers and the Buffalo Bills as they
Speaker 1: move forward, but we can let the hype begin for
Speaker 1: one of the great quarterback matchups in Super Bowl history.
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Speaker 1: start with last night with Kansas City Chiefs and the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. If I said to Buffalo Bills fans, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the FC Title Game, but you're gonna lose,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get blown out, you would have signed up away.
Speaker 1: And this is what happens with the fans expectations where
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you go, we got a chance
Speaker 1: to go to the super Bowl, and then you don't go,
Speaker 1: and then you feel like there is a letdown and disappointment.
Speaker 1: You have a lot to be proud of with what
Speaker 1: that team accomplished this year. And I didn't think that
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was ready for that moment. I thought that
Speaker 1: he played okay. I thought the Bills played okay. But
Speaker 1: with Kansas City, you can't just play okay. You must
Speaker 1: score touchdowns, you must be aggressive, you must take chances.
Speaker 1: That's the only way you're going to beat them. You
Speaker 1: can't be conservative. You gotta take chances. You got to
Speaker 1: put them on their heels. And Buffalo, even though they
Speaker 1: were up nine nothing, I don't think any of us thought, boy,
Speaker 1: they've got them figured out. You got to score. You
Speaker 1: got to put pressure on them. So when Mahomes gets
Speaker 1: on the field, there's even more pressure for him to
Speaker 1: make something happen. It's a dangerous offense. Travis Kelsey was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill and of course Mahomes and Buffalo had some
Speaker 1: chances there early but didn't take advantage of them. And
Speaker 1: then you give Kansas City It's almost like Kansas City
Speaker 1: sort of needs a little bit of a build up there,
Speaker 1: like what are we down? Oh, you're down nine? Nothing?
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's go. You know, for some reason
Speaker 1: they've done this in the playoffs. Second quarter, that was
Speaker 1: some great football there, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you're the Buffalo Bills and you're like, wait, what just happened?
Speaker 1: But that's what Kansas City does to you. And then
Speaker 1: you have the Green Bay game, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: to really kind of sort through here. But I do
Speaker 1: want to say this though, as the umbrella the tree
Speaker 1: top with that game, make no mistake about this. That
Speaker 1: was a Tampa Bay win, not a Tom Brady win. Okay.
Speaker 1: Tom's gonna get all the notoriety of the headlines more
Speaker 1: credit than he deserves with what he played yesterday. Shack
Speaker 1: Barrett was wonderful yesterday, Jason Pierre Paul. That's why they
Speaker 1: won that football game because Tom threw three interceptions in
Speaker 1: the second half. Green Bay scored six points off those
Speaker 1: three picks. It's because when Aaron Rodgers got the ball
Speaker 1: and a couple of those times they were three and ounce,
Speaker 1: they put pressure on him. They went after him they
Speaker 1: played aggressive, they took chances and it paid off. Now,
Speaker 1: Brady looked great, first half, looked great, had a couple
Speaker 1: of big plays. Absolutely, but make no mistake about it,
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette like they're going to be Scottie Miller. There
Speaker 1: are guys who are going to get lost in the shuffle,
Speaker 1: and at least today should be recognized because that's a
Speaker 1: Tampa win, not a Tom win. And make no mistake,
Speaker 1: it really was yesterday and even the previous game that
Speaker 1: wasn't about Tom Brady. The defense won that game, and
Speaker 1: the defense will win the Super Bowl for Tampa. If
Speaker 1: they win, the defense will win it for them. Now,
Speaker 1: you've got to score points, but the key will be
Speaker 1: how the defense is able to handle the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense. And if they put up a stout front there,
Speaker 1: then Tampa can win the Super Bowl that way. I
Speaker 1: don't think Tampa wins in a shootout over Kansas City,
Speaker 1: but I do think that if Tampa has that pressure
Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes, you don't have to have another rusher
Speaker 1: extra rusher in there. We'll get into the strategy here.
Speaker 1: We got plenty of time to get into that. But
Speaker 1: that defense, even though they didn't have a healthy secondary
Speaker 1: was putting pressure on Aaron Rodgers, and Rogers knew he
Speaker 1: had to score every time he had the ball. And
Speaker 1: that brings us to the play. You know, with two
Speaker 1: minutes to go on fourth down, it's fourth and eight. Well,
Speaker 1: my point as I'm watching this is, yes, I thought
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers could have run in now would have been close.
Speaker 1: He may have got, you know, a pretty good collision,
Speaker 1: but I thought that he could have scored on that
Speaker 1: if you know, going the angle to the corner of
Speaker 1: the end zone. But you know that's third down. So
Speaker 1: my point is, if you think it's going to be
Speaker 1: four down territory, then don't be throwing in into the
Speaker 1: end zone. Why not sprinkle in something maybe you know,
Speaker 1: something in the flat a screen, a running play. But
Speaker 1: Rogers had no impact on what they were going to
Speaker 1: do on fourth downs. So it's fourth and eight and
Speaker 1: he's like okay, and then the field goal unit came in.
Speaker 1: It's not like he can burn a timeout because they
Speaker 1: want to keep their timeouts. But it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: And my point was, I understand, you go for the
Speaker 1: field goal, you play good defense, you basically have four timeouts.
Speaker 1: If you include the two minute two minute warning, then
Speaker 1: you're down five, you score touchdown, you win the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand that I would rather have treated it as
Speaker 1: four downs, and if I didn't get it, you're still
Speaker 1: around the five yard line, four yard line, three yard line,
Speaker 1: and Tampa has to make something happen. Then I can
Speaker 1: go for the touchdown two point conversion and send it
Speaker 1: into overtime. So I know there's controversy with them. Here
Speaker 1: is Matt Lafleur explaining the kicking a field going fourth down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anytime it doesn't work out, you always regret it. Right.
Speaker 1: It was just the circumstances of having three shots coming
Speaker 1: away with no yards and knowing that you not only
Speaker 1: need the touchdown, but you'd need the two points. So
Speaker 1: the way I was looking at it was essentially had
Speaker 1: four timeouts with the two minute warning. You know, we
Speaker 1: knew we needed to get a stop, and I thought
Speaker 1: we were going to have a stop there at the end,
Speaker 1: but you know, we got called for the p PI
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. So I think anytime something doesn't
Speaker 1: work out, do you regret it? Sure? Here was Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers when he was asked about kicking the field going
Speaker 1: fourth down. Did you agree with the decision to kick
Speaker 1: it there on fourth down? Yeah, there wasn't my decisions.
Speaker 1: I understand the thinking above two minutes with all of
Speaker 1: our timeouts, but yeah, there wasn't mind the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sound like you can call timeout and say, coach,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. I would have just treated as
Speaker 1: four down territory. But I definitely I thought Rogers would
Speaker 1: have scored a touchdown there if he wanted to on
Speaker 1: that third down, or he would have gotten close, and
Speaker 1: then it would have made a far more interesting decision
Speaker 1: because if I get a touchdown there, even if I
Speaker 1: don't get the two point conversion, I still have my timeouts,
Speaker 1: and I still have the two minute warning and I'm
Speaker 1: down two, so I don't need to score now I
Speaker 1: get a field goal. And it felt like the officials
Speaker 1: were letting them play. In fact, I think Tony Romo
Speaker 1: and Jim Nance talked about there's no flags being thrown.
Speaker 1: It felt like both games the officials allowed the teams
Speaker 1: to play unless it was something egregious like grabbing somebody's
Speaker 1: uniform right in front of the official. But you know,
Speaker 1: Buck and Aikman when they had you know, their thoughts
Speaker 1: on the game. You had Nansen Romo with the other game,
Speaker 1: with what they were seeing and saying they're letting him play.
Speaker 1: You know that it felt like that that that would
Speaker 1: that's what was going on in these two games. They
Speaker 1: were letting letting them play, and then you had this
Speaker 1: moment where it was right in front of the official
Speaker 1: and you're grabbing somebody's jersey and the jersey is hanging
Speaker 1: out and they had to call it. Yeah. See right,
Speaker 1: all that being said, Matt Lafleur is exactly one jersey
Speaker 1: tug away from this his plan exit, you know, working
Speaker 1: out perfectly exactly the way he thought it was going
Speaker 1: to or the way he wanted it too. They would
Speaker 1: have got the ball back with no timeouts, one time out,
Speaker 1: and they would have had to go eighty yards because
Speaker 1: they would have kicked the ball. They would have punted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might have worked out. All I know is Rogers
Speaker 1: could have scored that touchdown in my opinion, and I
Speaker 1: could have probably taking a better approach than let's throw
Speaker 1: three times into the end zone. That's what I didn't
Speaker 1: like because it felt like Tampa was, you know, playing
Speaker 1: for that, like they were there in the end zone
Speaker 1: there you want to go, you want to get six
Speaker 1: yards go ahead, But then that would have made it
Speaker 1: far more interesting, I think, on a fourth down than
Speaker 1: kicking the field goal. Yeah, see right, because in the
Speaker 1: moment you're like, day, what are you doing? Don't kick
Speaker 1: the field goal? Go for the touchdown? But may he went. Really,
Speaker 1: when you sit back and look at it, it was
Speaker 1: a lot closer to working out than you think. I
Speaker 1: just didn't think green Bay was their offense was consistent
Speaker 1: enough where they're gonna have to score a touchdown, whereas
Speaker 1: if they only had to kick a field goal. I
Speaker 1: just didn't know if they could get back into you know,
Speaker 1: the red zone again or down to the ten yard
Speaker 1: line try to score a touchdown. Yeah, the club realistically
Speaker 1: did they have any chance of converting that fourth and eighth.
Speaker 1: They were terrible inside the tea and they never would
Speaker 1: have gotten the two points. You're probably they were terrible
Speaker 1: on that play too, So I agree they should have gone.
Speaker 1: I'm strong they should have gone for it, but not
Speaker 1: like they would have won. You're right. If Rogers did
Speaker 1: run down the one, that's how you would win. You know,
Speaker 1: that would have won it because you would have gotten
Speaker 1: close enough. All I know is if you score a touchdown,
Speaker 1: you at least have the opportunity for a two point conversion.
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, you have a chance to tie this game.
Speaker 1: That's what I said in the moment, and my opinion
Speaker 1: hasn't changed. Yeah, point, and I think you said it right.
Speaker 1: You don't get the gift of three Tom Brady interceptions
Speaker 1: in one half. Ever, I don't don't know if he's
Speaker 1: ever done that in his career three and one half,
Speaker 1: and he did it at your home field. You had
Speaker 1: the weather, you had everything. That's what. If you're a
Speaker 1: packer panting, you're like, we had it. If you're a
Speaker 1: Cleveland fan last week, you're like, we had our shot,
Speaker 1: we had our opening. Because Mahomes is on the sidelines,
Speaker 1: you don't get those a lot got to take advantage of,
Speaker 1: especially against quarterbacks like this. You know. That's why if
Speaker 1: I'm the Browns, I mean that stays with me. Because
Speaker 1: you had Mahomes out in the fourth quarter, You had
Speaker 1: your chance, and you may not get another chance. It
Speaker 1: may be five, seven year, ten years down the road. Yes,
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like the better team lost last night.
Speaker 1: After that game, did you feel that way? At all
Speaker 1: the way you're talking about Buffalo. No. I mean the Packers.
Speaker 1: I feel like they were the better team at home
Speaker 1: and they just didn't win, you know, like I felt
Speaker 1: like they should have kind of like what you're saying,
Speaker 1: I felt like they should have came away with him.
Speaker 1: But I might be fooled by the fact that I
Speaker 1: sort of underrate the Bucks. I thought the Buccaneers pass
Speaker 1: rush won that game because all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: and you have a depleted secondary and they were still
Speaker 1: able to make plays. They put pressure on Rogers, and
Speaker 1: really that I thought Brady gave them a lead, almost
Speaker 1: gave away that lead, and that defense is they said,
Speaker 1: we're not going to lose this game. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of people talk about the second half, but that you know,
Speaker 1: the Rogers would bring them down at the end of
Speaker 1: the second quarter, maybe four minutes left, they didn't get
Speaker 1: the touchdown, Brady's about to run out the half or
Speaker 1: maybe get a field goal, and they find Scottie Miller
Speaker 1: on a fifty yard bomb when that's the only play
Speaker 1: in the playbook is to throw an ends onto somebody.
Speaker 1: That would bothered me for a decade if I was
Speaker 1: a Packer fan. That play. Now, if it's the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, I understand that you do something stupid like that.
Speaker 1: This is the Packers in the NFC title game. Why
Speaker 1: you're not in zone keeping everything in front of you,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, worst case scenario if they
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Okay, they kicked a field goal,
Speaker 1: not a touchdown, Nobody gets behind you. I mean absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's high school stuff. Even then you'd be mad at
Speaker 1: your high school team if they did that. Yeah, ton
Speaker 1: a field goal is just seventeen ten totally collapse into
Speaker 1: a twenty one ten halftime situation then ends up becoming
Speaker 1: twenty eight ten. That was key to the momentum to
Speaker 1: start the second half. If you're a Packer fan and
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Speaker 1: Patrick dot com. And then you had the cryptic message
Speaker 1: by Aaron Rodgers on what's next after the loss. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns going into this offseason. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to take some time for sure and clear
Speaker 1: my head and just kind of see what's going on
Speaker 1: with everything. But it's pretty tough right now, especially thinking
Speaker 1: about the guys that may or may not be here
Speaker 1: next year. There's always changed as to only constant this business.
Speaker 1: It's really tough to get to this point, really really tough,
Speaker 1: especially what they'd only being won bye week in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's a grind just to get to this point, and
Speaker 1: that makes the finality of it all kind of hits
Speaker 1: you like a ton of bricks. That's why it's a
Speaker 1: gutting feeling in your stomach. When he groans that exhale,
Speaker 1: it's like whoa nine players who've won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and the League MVP in the same season. Bart Starr
Speaker 1: won it, Terry Bradshaw did it, Washington Kicker, Mark Moseley,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, Joe Montana and Smith, Steve Young, Bret Farr.
Speaker 1: And the last to do it was Kurt Warner. That
Speaker 1: was nineteen ninety nine. And the street continues is Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers bounds out mclovin, what kind of poll question do
Speaker 1: we have today? And we'll take a break. Chris collins
Speaker 1: Worth will join us. We'll get to your phone calls,
Speaker 1: best and worst to the weekend as well. Okay, I
Speaker 1: already put it up. We're gonna focus on the losing
Speaker 1: teams which quarterback has the best chance of returning to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl first, Aaron Rodgers or Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: I would have put Packers or Bills. But since Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers might not be a Packer, it opens up the field. Well,
Speaker 1: unless you think that's a joke and he's almost definitely
Speaker 1: gonna be a Packer. I would assume he's going to be.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the inner workings, like how
Speaker 1: he feels today, you know, very frustrated, disappointed, hurt with
Speaker 1: what happened. But you know, you drafted a quarterback in
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, but you you put up an MVP season.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what why He even gave sort
Speaker 1: of a cryptic answer there about him you never knew,
Speaker 1: you know. It's a what a beautiful mystery, Yeah, Poe,
Speaker 1: I think Rogers has to give a speech when he
Speaker 1: gets the MVP award at the NFL Honors in a week.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be weird. What else do you have mclubbing?
Speaker 1: Who is the goat from yesterday? Not goat greatest of
Speaker 1: all time? The goat Kevin King, Matt Lafleur, or I
Speaker 1: guess you could put maybe Sean McDermott or Josh Allen
Speaker 1: for the Bills. I'm not sure who the Bills like.
Speaker 1: Who walks away and say, oh, he screwed up well,
Speaker 1: Kevin King, Yeah, me too, the defensive back. I don't
Speaker 1: think Buffalo was. You know, they were on the same field,
Speaker 1: but they weren't on the same field with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: It was just a really good season and that's one
Speaker 1: of those where it's just a learning experience of getting there,
Speaker 1: what that feeling is like. Understand, Kansas City was an
Speaker 1: offside penalty away from going to three different you know,
Speaker 1: three consecutive Super Bowls here, So two years ago versus
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you have the off side with d Ford,
Speaker 1: you have the interception. It's called back because they were
Speaker 1: off sides, they would be facing the Rams and probably
Speaker 1: would have been favorites to beat them. You got to
Speaker 1: learn from those things. We've seen it down through history
Speaker 1: where teams need to learn to get to that next step,
Speaker 1: and Kansas City certainly learned after losing to the Patriots. Well,
Speaker 1: take a break. Chris Collinsworth will join us coming up next.
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Speaker 1: Today he's the Pompeyer Chris Collinsworth who joins us on
Speaker 1: the program. Where do you want to start? Chris? What's
Speaker 1: your game? Oh? I thought i'd start with my free
Speaker 1: Mercedes that I did. All right, you're just giving them away.
Speaker 1: Look out in the driveway. Look out in the driveway.
Speaker 1: Have Holly, go out in the driveway. It's right there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: right there. Okay, which game you want to start with? Um,
Speaker 1: let's start with the Tampa Okay. I was surprised. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a couple things that surprised me, but the one
Speaker 1: thing I think will get overlooked. Is I thought that
Speaker 1: was a Tampa win, a true Tampa win. Tom will
Speaker 1: get the credit, but that Tampa defense did some special
Speaker 1: things against Aaron Rodgers that I think will be understated. Chris,
Speaker 1: how would you describe what that philosophy was? Well, I
Speaker 1: think that you have to. Hey, I think you're dead
Speaker 1: on and maybe in part we finally saw that David
Speaker 1: Batier injuries show up in this game, you know, because
Speaker 1: we saw a week ago that it didn't show up.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, it just looked like the Green
Speaker 1: Bay offense. It was no worries at all. They finally
Speaker 1: figured it out and Aaron's going to do what he does.
Speaker 1: They're going to run the ball, maybe a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and but you know it's gonna be fun. But for
Speaker 1: the second straight time now, the Tampa Bay defense dominated
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And you know, I studied the first game
Speaker 1: between these two teams because I had one of them
Speaker 1: the following week whatever, So I got to watch all
Speaker 1: the blitzing that Tampa did, and you know, they really
Speaker 1: impacted Aaron Rodgers in a way that I had not
Speaker 1: seen anybody really impact them. And then you come back
Speaker 1: in this game and yeah, they had some five man
Speaker 1: pressures and they did a little bit of that, but
Speaker 1: there was a lot of one on one winning going
Speaker 1: on on the defensive line of the Buccaneers. And one
Speaker 1: of the problems you have when you have a superstar
Speaker 1: out and we'll get to this in the Kansas City
Speaker 1: game now, because they're going to be missing both of
Speaker 1: their tackles, but without David Baktra in there, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, all the help that you could give the
Speaker 1: other guys on that offensive line goes away. Now you're
Speaker 1: one on one at other positions as well as the
Speaker 1: left tackle position. And that could always be assumed if
Speaker 1: you were Aaron Rodgers. If you have Baktri in there,
Speaker 1: you just assumed that that backside has covered. So you're
Speaker 1: really only worried about four offensive linemen and doing whatever
Speaker 1: you need to do to protect them. Yeah, but you see,
Speaker 1: and this was a depleted secondary two like they didn't
Speaker 1: even have a healthy secondary, and they were putting all
Speaker 1: that pressure on Aaron Rodgers. Let me start with the Packers.
Speaker 1: You didn't take advantage of Tom brady three interceptions in
Speaker 1: the second. If I would have said Brady's thrown three
Speaker 1: picks in the second half, you just assume that they're
Speaker 1: going to be able to take advantage. They only cashed
Speaker 1: in with six points. What was the big problem do
Speaker 1: you think with that offense and not being able to
Speaker 1: do anything? You know, I think a you have to
Speaker 1: give credit to what they did defensively. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: it was just the confidence they built in the first
Speaker 1: game where they utterly they were down ten nothing in
Speaker 1: that first game playing in Tampa and came back in
Speaker 1: one thirty eight to ten. And the other part of
Speaker 1: it is, and you hit on this that you know
Speaker 1: you'd start the game without Winfield, you lose Whitehead, the
Speaker 1: other safety in the game. So now what you're really
Speaker 1: saying is, if I'm going to bring pressure, I'm going
Speaker 1: to trust Jamal Dean and Sean Murphy blunting and Carlton
Speaker 1: Davis one on one out there on the outside, you know,
Speaker 1: to make plays. And did they always stopped them? No,
Speaker 1: they didn't. But that was a young group coming into
Speaker 1: this season. When I analyzed the Tampa Bay team, I said,
Speaker 1: they'll go as far as the secondary takes them. You know,
Speaker 1: they're all babies, they're all young. You know Winfields out now,
Speaker 1: but they're all young. Players, and sometimes that's a good thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Dan, You know there was
Speaker 1: a time when you and I were young and dumb
Speaker 1: and I didn't know any better. Of course, I went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl my first year. Of course I
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl my first year in the Lady.
Speaker 1: This happens to everybody, right. This is a long way
Speaker 1: from the Florida Gators going oh ten and won my
Speaker 1: junior year. So I mean, sometimes it just works out
Speaker 1: and you build this confidence and it starts going. But
Speaker 1: I really think that looking now at what the getting
Speaker 1: Beta Vea back and having some push. You know, Beta
Speaker 1: Vea was the best player on this Bucks defense when
Speaker 1: he was playing earlier in the year, he was the best.
Speaker 1: And what Devin White did a week ago in that game,
Speaker 1: and Lavonte David and Barrett and the Dominican Sue and
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul looked like Jason Pierre Paul again, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you go, wow, you know those three interceptions,
Speaker 1: at least two of them, I can't remember that. At
Speaker 1: least two of them were three and outs, you know
Speaker 1: it was it was three and out and Dutch. Typically
Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers buries you when you get one of
Speaker 1: those quick changes and he gets the ball back in
Speaker 1: his hands, they've got something in their hip pocket and
Speaker 1: he buries you. Let's go to the end of the
Speaker 1: first half. How does that happen with that kind of
Speaker 1: defensive formation and Scottie Miller gets behind you. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to take a guess. I'm sitting there watching the
Speaker 1: game with our family, and I said, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna throw a hill Marry here, because I didn't think
Speaker 1: that that Green Bay would allow them to throw a
Speaker 1: quick out right to get in field goal range. So
Speaker 1: if you're not going to be gifted that, then I'm
Speaker 1: just going to take a shot at a hill Mary
Speaker 1: and see what happens here. Right, But in reality, they
Speaker 1: could have had the quick out and they could have
Speaker 1: had the deep ball. I'm gonna say that for King defensively,
Speaker 1: maybe he was thinking about that. Maybe he was thinking,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna run a ten yard out here
Speaker 1: and getting field goal range, and so I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna undercut this sucker and pick six it. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe because otherwise, you know, you're at the very least
Speaker 1: in three deep or quarters or at least two deep
Speaker 1: with two guys sort of sitting back on the goal
Speaker 1: line somewhere. But when he launched it, I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: I was thinking right away, this is a touchdown. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's not throwing this ball unless Scottie Miller, who's
Speaker 1: really a bit of the unsung hero of this team
Speaker 1: now with the Antonio Brown out coming down with that,
Speaker 1: it was it was an amazing play and lost the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers a chance to go
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Yeah, and people don't understand. You know,
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller was a track guy in high school and
Speaker 1: you know, a four three nine guy at the combine.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not like Edelman, He's not one of them,
Speaker 1: not Wes Wilker. He's actually got straight ahead, you know,
Speaker 1: track speed. But you know, let's go to the two
Speaker 1: minutes to go and the you know, we're third and eight.
Speaker 1: You got to score a touchdown there, Rogers. You know
Speaker 1: they had three plays where they were going into the
Speaker 1: end zone there, and then you had the fourth down
Speaker 1: where they kicked the field goal. How about the how
Speaker 1: about all four plays together, though, Chris, if you were
Speaker 1: going to dissect those on what the philosophy was of
Speaker 1: Green Bay and that they ended with kicking a field goal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they came back to a play that little
Speaker 1: double move, you know, where he came in and went
Speaker 1: back up, So you can't blame him for that. That
Speaker 1: would that would look good before I thought the real
Speaker 1: sequence came down to third down, because on third down
Speaker 1: you have to tell your quarterback are we going for this?
Speaker 1: On fourth down? Right, you have to And I'm going
Speaker 1: to take it one step further than that. I'm going
Speaker 1: to say this is not a decision for the head coach.
Speaker 1: I think it's in today's day and age, and almost
Speaker 1: every team has this. And if the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: don't have this, they need to have this. They need
Speaker 1: to have a full time guy and maybe a full
Speaker 1: time staff that understands the analytics of where we are
Speaker 1: in the game. Right, So let's take what the situation was.
Speaker 1: It was just outside the two minute warning, so you're
Speaker 1: going to have three timeouts and you're going to have
Speaker 1: a two minute warning, right, so effectively four four timeouts.
Speaker 1: So now you're also in a position where no matter
Speaker 1: what you do, if you kick a field goal, the
Speaker 1: goal is still the same you still have to score
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Under no circumstances do you not have to
Speaker 1: score a touchdown in that situation. So you're going to
Speaker 1: take two shots at scoring a touchdown. You're going to
Speaker 1: take it on fourth down and if you make it,
Speaker 1: two point conversion. But more importantly, if you miss it,
Speaker 1: if you don't score the touchdown there, you're leaving Tampa
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady the ball on the seven or eight
Speaker 1: yard line wherever they were in that situation. I can
Speaker 1: just tell you being inside your own ten yard line
Speaker 1: with a trip to the super Bowl on the line
Speaker 1: is so significant in what you can do defensively, You're
Speaker 1: play calling, how you attack it, the whole thing. So
Speaker 1: there should have been So they played for one one
Speaker 1: shot and a touchdown that would have won the game
Speaker 1: as opposed to needing a two point conversion. So I mean,
Speaker 1: let's guy's not crazy, right, I mean, there is a thing,
Speaker 1: but there's no way in that set of circumstances if
Speaker 1: they had the right analytics team with them. They don't
Speaker 1: tell you know, Matt, you got to take your shot
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns here talking to Chris Collinsworth NBC Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football, and I agree with you. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: watching it wondering, Okay, at the worst case scenarios, you
Speaker 1: leave Brady inside is ten and then you take your
Speaker 1: chances at getting the ball back then scoring a touchdown
Speaker 1: two point conversion Glinda overtime. The Kansas City Buffalo game,
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, if you're Buffalo, you can't go with
Speaker 1: the same script you had the last time you played him?
Speaker 1: Can you be aggressive enough with Kansas City? I get
Speaker 1: the approach. If you were coaching Buffalo the approach. Would
Speaker 1: it have been much different than you saw last night
Speaker 1: with Sean McDermott and Josh Allen. Probably, But that's easy
Speaker 1: to say today, you know. I mean I saw the
Speaker 1: results of the game, right, A couple of things I
Speaker 1: would have wanted to I mean, Patrick Mahomes, that was
Speaker 1: the story of the whole week, right. It was turf toe,
Speaker 1: and it was coming off concussion. I don't think the
Speaker 1: concussion had anything to do with anything that he did
Speaker 1: in the game, So I'm just going to erase that one.
Speaker 1: The turf toe. I don't know that we really found
Speaker 1: out if it mattered or not. You know, I kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to see, I mean, you know what he
Speaker 1: does with that little back pedal and throw of his right,
Speaker 1: but at some point he has to make a quick
Speaker 1: stop and pivot and get back into his throwing motion.
Speaker 1: I would want to see him, at least in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of that game, run around a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, you had a nine to nothing lead. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs do what did what they always do, which is
Speaker 1: they're going to spotches. It's like when I used to
Speaker 1: race my dad. You know, he would spot me ten
Speaker 1: yards before the race would start, and so they spot
Speaker 1: him the nine points, which is usual for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: And then here as right. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: they could have impacted Mahomes, but I would have at
Speaker 1: least early in that game wanted him thinking about that
Speaker 1: turf toe, you know, and you've got something and we
Speaker 1: saw it impact him a little bit the week before,
Speaker 1: and how he was throwing the ball. When you have
Speaker 1: something and he's the best player on the field, I
Speaker 1: want to challenge that a little bit more than I
Speaker 1: think they did. How would you feel if you're a
Speaker 1: Buffalo fan today? Good? Really good? I thought Josh was
Speaker 1: not anywhere close to his best in this game, and
Speaker 1: he reverted back to his weakness when he was struggling,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't struggling much this year. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: He's an ungodly player. I mean, it really is, and
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be great, great, great, I
Speaker 1: really do. But young quarterbacks, when they're in big moments,
Speaker 1: are in really tough situations or under pressure, do the
Speaker 1: same thing. They scramble right. Scramble right is a sign
Speaker 1: of we have to improve this right. Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: just as good going to his left scrambling as he
Speaker 1: is the right. When you scramble to one side of
Speaker 1: the field, especially to the right side of the field,
Speaker 1: people have defenses have seen that so much. Now Josh
Speaker 1: has the ability to throw it all the way back
Speaker 1: across the field Illah, John Elway or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, you're taking a third of
Speaker 1: the field away from what the defense has to cover.
Speaker 1: And in addition, you're also telling them if we bring
Speaker 1: any kind of pressure off the left side at all,
Speaker 1: he's going to move to his right. So you can
Speaker 1: begin to play that a little bit more. Young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: always do watch the next preseason watch drafted quarterbacks, though,
Speaker 1: I mean nine times out of ten when they're flushed
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, they're moving to their right. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll give them three years and they'll figure this out.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford fits best where? Oh boy, Um, I think
Speaker 1: New England. You know that that feels like the obvious
Speaker 1: choice to me. Um, But you know, Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: going to determine a lot of things in my mind
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming Dak gets signed with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But man, after this twenty twenty and twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: and COVID, I'm not assuming anything anymore. You know, I
Speaker 1: just don't know what's going to happen. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: is Derek Carr going to be in play? Is? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean, there's going to be some guys out there,
Speaker 1: and these the draft choices this year are going to
Speaker 1: be good as well. And I think I think the
Speaker 1: question that has to be answered for me in New
Speaker 1: England is is this a long term or a short term?
Speaker 1: And play? I mean Bill Belichick, I'm going to assume
Speaker 1: he wants to go get Don Shuler's record, which means
Speaker 1: that he's probably has another four or five years at
Speaker 1: least to try and go get that. Um, if he
Speaker 1: doesn't and this is a two year game plan and
Speaker 1: he wants to retire. You know, only Bill knows this.
Speaker 1: Then Matthew Stafford feels like a great fit to me,
Speaker 1: you know, pop in there, Let's see what we can do.
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can we can do quickly. Uh.
Speaker 1: If he starts moving up in the draft and they
Speaker 1: go going to play, I'm like, all right, this man,
Speaker 1: he's never going to retire. Um. So there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different things in play. But but for Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he still has it. I do.
Speaker 1: I've always thought that he was a better player than
Speaker 1: what the results indicated. You know, but who knows. Great
Speaker 1: to talk to you, Chris. We appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 1: Hope you're well. Thank you, Dan. Good talking to you, buddy.
Speaker 1: It's Chris Collins where Sunday Night football color analysts. We'll
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Speaker 1: Clark the former defensive back of the Steelers. He works
Speaker 1: for the Mothership. He's going to join us coming up
Speaker 1: in a little more than an hour, and he had
Speaker 1: this to say, which I do love. He was talking
Speaker 1: about Scotty Miller, who scored the touchdown at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half, and Ryan Clark tweets out yesterday,
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller is not like any of those new England receivers.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of telling folks at nothing about this guy.
Speaker 1: Number ten says, bring his lunch pail first in last out.
Speaker 1: Coach on the field, the dude is a burner, addressed
Speaker 1: him as such. Lol. That is a great tweet because
Speaker 1: if you're like most of America watching that game, you
Speaker 1: went that dude seemed like he was deceptively pick fast.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that he is faster than Kevin King,
Speaker 1: the defensive back, but because he's short and white, you're
Speaker 1: thinking he's Edelman or Wes Welker. He ran a four
Speaker 1: three nine at the combine. He's fast. He not deceptively fast.
Speaker 1: He fast, Yeah, Paul, But it's the name. He's not
Speaker 1: Scott Miller, He's Scotty Miller. He's little Scotty Miller over there.
Speaker 1: You know. He sounds like like Buddy McGee's name would
Speaker 1: be gritty Gutty's Scotty Miller. Yeah, not burner, Scotty Miller.
Speaker 1: He is a burner. If you say boltwar named Scott Miller,
Speaker 1: he never want to want a gold medal. We wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been afraid of him. But maybe if you take
Speaker 1: the first two initials like his first name and his
Speaker 1: middle name, and then you do Miller like s s
Speaker 1: A Miller, se Miller, yes, even Scott Miller, like, ain't scaring?
Speaker 1: You know, got a double team. I ain't scared. I
Speaker 1: ain't scared? All right? Uh sets our play of the day.
Speaker 1: Ariel Helwani, who was covering the count of McGregor fights
Speaker 1: Hiljon is coming up next hour. Seaton tweeted out yesterday
Speaker 1: that why do we even have intentional grounding? Why is
Speaker 1: it a thing? And then we want to protect quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: so who cares if you throw the ball away if
Speaker 1: you're outside the tackle box, that you can't do it.
Speaker 1: You know, Brady had to throw one away. Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: would just ground He just throw the ball right into
Speaker 1: the ground. But was it like he was intentionally grounding
Speaker 1: the ball but he was inside the tackle box. Therefore
Speaker 1: it's okay. Yeah, Oh there's someone in the area, so
Speaker 1: now it's okay, I throw it directly into the grounds.
Speaker 1: But if I throw it out of bounds as you've
Speaker 1: suggested here, seton, Like, isn't that intentional grounding? There was
Speaker 1: clearly no one. It was not intended for anyone to
Speaker 1: catch that pass, which to me would sound like you
Speaker 1: intentionally threw it away. Why why is this even a call? Yes,
Speaker 1: I want more intentional grounding. I want when like the
Speaker 1: running back is stand there with his back to the
Speaker 1: quarterback and they spike it at their feet, like, well
Speaker 1: there's a receiver in area. That's obvious intentional grounding. That
Speaker 1: bothers me more than anything that they don't call that
Speaker 1: it is. It is humorous though, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: that act intentional grounding. Football as a sport has by
Speaker 1: far the dumbest rules of the illegal Uh you know,
Speaker 1: ineligible receiver downfield or something because the lineman ran five
Speaker 1: yards too far blocked somebody too well. Is stupid? Didn't
Speaker 1: it used to be that every everybody was a wide
Speaker 1: receiver back in the early days of football, that the
Speaker 1: linemen were allowed to run out for passes. Yes, time
Speaker 1: and baseball, you can intentionally walk somewhere. You can. You
Speaker 1: can if you're a batter, you can purpose he swing
Speaker 1: wildly at a pitch with no intentions of hitting the
Speaker 1: ball to screw up the catchup when your guys stealing
Speaker 1: a base for getting his way. So I don't understand
Speaker 1: why you can't be in control of whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do. Offensive. Thank you, Todd. Fourth time in Brady's
Speaker 1: career he's thrown at least three interceptions and a half,
Speaker 1: first time since twenty eleven. He lost each of the
Speaker 1: previous three. He also threw interceptions on three straight drives,
Speaker 1: just the second time in his career. Yes see, I
Speaker 1: actually just changed my mind. I think intentional grounding is
Speaker 1: really smart. Why is that just after Todd's analogy? Thanks
Speaker 1: that Todd convinced the wrong. If Todd is agreeing with you,
Speaker 1: then you know you might have a terrible baseball analogy
Speaker 1: or a combination about you're you're guilty of intentionally grounding
Speaker 1: this segment. I'm gonna flag you on that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: flag that's it. I was like, is that a good
Speaker 1: analogy to the TEXTA crowd in the baseball? Now? I
Speaker 1: love what he's confinished, and I think you get rid
Speaker 1: of minute because he's run out of air. Did we
Speaker 1: settle on a poll question mclovin, Yes we did, but
Speaker 1: I won't tell you to what is until after the break?
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