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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in to One Bill's Live Happy Thursday afternoon Nightty

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Speaker 2: Glab alongside Steve Tasker. As we inch closer to training camp,

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Speaker 2: practices start next week on Wednesday at Saint John Fisher University,

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Speaker 2: rookies have reported they're here. The players are starting to

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Speaker 2: file into this building to get.

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Speaker 3: Back to our baby.

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Speaker 4: We've been on the husp of training camp for like

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Speaker 4: a month and now we've been just waiting and waiting,

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Speaker 4: and now we're in the last week. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: it's like waiting for class. It's waiting for you know,

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Speaker 4: your chemistry class to end. You know, it's like, look

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Speaker 4: at the just you gotta I need.

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Speaker 3: I need the weekend pack.

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Speaker 4: I need a lunch, Paale. I go back and forth

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Speaker 4: every day. I'm staying over there, Are you kidding?

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Speaker 5: Me?

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Speaker 3: Loves Saint John Fisher.

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Speaker 4: Though I do. I like Saint John Fisher, love the lunches.

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Speaker 4: Nice to visit and the lunches are great and get

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Speaker 4: treated very well over there. But you know, I like sleeping.

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Speaker 2: But you like sleeping in your own bed, you know what?

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Speaker 2: I like sleeping in a dorm for a month. I

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Speaker 2: like to pretend like I'm back in college.

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Speaker 4: Dorm is no place for a man my age. It is.

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Speaker 2: I can understand that is not a place that is

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Speaker 2: a OK.

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Speaker 4: It is and I'll say this though, I'm we were

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Speaker 4: You saw I got worked up before we came on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to you want to share.

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Speaker 4: The Jets and the dog. Everybody's picking the Jets or

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Speaker 4: Dolphins to win the division.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, everybody, everybody except.

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Speaker 4: You except except you.

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Speaker 3: Make the people on this building.

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Speaker 4: They scored more points than anybody except one team in

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Speaker 4: the league. Last year. They had more drives that had

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Speaker 4: fewer drives than in a punt or turnover than anybody

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Speaker 4: except Kansas City. Last year, they scored more points that

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Speaker 4: they led the They were second the league in turnovers

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Speaker 4: and second the league in dropped passes. So they did

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Speaker 4: it to themselves. They lost three total games in the

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Speaker 4: regular season by a total of eight points, with a

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Speaker 4: first year offensive coordinator, with like three guys offensively that

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Speaker 4: had sub subpar years for them. They had injuries everywhere,

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Speaker 4: two major snowstorms, a home game moved to the road.

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Speaker 4: They had the death of a sibling of one of

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Speaker 4: the players, and one of their players that expired on

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Speaker 3: In the year injuries Galore, the.

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Speaker 4: President of the club, had a heart attack. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was like one thing after another last year, and

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Speaker 4: they still plowed everybody right down to the last until

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Speaker 4: they ran out of finally got ran out of gas.

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Speaker 4: And but and now, throughout the last five months, six months,

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Speaker 4: you and I and Brownie and everybody, we've been sitting

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Speaker 4: here watching this team build it again. And I mean

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Speaker 4: build it better. I mean they are better. They're bigger,

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Speaker 4: more physical, inside, more athletic. They're now now, they're got

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Speaker 4: their health back. They're gonna get Von Miller back. They

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Speaker 4: got Leonard Floyd in the fold. Their corners are gonna

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Speaker 4: be healthy for goodness sakes, their safeties are gonna be healthy.

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Speaker 4: They got a running back who can fly, who's not

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Speaker 4: who's gonna be the guy now. They got two guys

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Speaker 4: behind him that are that have killed this team in

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Speaker 4: the past. They got a first round draft pick that

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Speaker 4: everybody wanted. They're better and nobody's picking them.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's picking them.

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Speaker 4: Nobody. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people realize how good this team got

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Speaker 2: in the offseason. Our general manager Brandon Bean, he learns

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Speaker 2: year to year what this team needs, and then he

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Speaker 2: goes out and grabs what the team needs. A tight

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Speaker 2: end in the first round of the NFL Draft, give

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen another weapon to throw off defenses. When this

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Speaker 2: know if don't Kinkaid is going to block or is

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. You get a couple of offensive linemen, one

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. This roster, I've said it this offseason is

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Speaker 2: deeper than I've known since I started working here in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. And it's not deep with guys who are

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Speaker 4: Yeh, it is. They were offensively last year. They were

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Speaker 4: run it. They were number seven in passing yards per

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Speaker 3: Number one in point.

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Speaker 4: Differentially, they were number two in yard first downs a game.

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Speaker 4: They were number one in third down conversion, number nine

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Speaker 4: in the red zone. They turned it over a ton

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Speaker 2: Yep ninth in red zone efficiency first and third down

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Speaker 4: Pick somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Second in score percentage. When you're looking at just drives,

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Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey's gonna get better, got more weapons, got more.

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Speaker 2: The two stats that were bugaboos for this team last

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Speaker 2: year thirtieth in turnovers and thirty first in turnover per

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Speaker 3: That is something that you can fix.

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Speaker 4: That's you, that's us, and.

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Speaker 2: You better believe our quarterback and our offense and our

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Speaker 2: have we gone into a season when Josh Allen has

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Speaker 2: needed to fix something and we haven't seen that fixed.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say that too. Josh's on everybody's

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Speaker 4: top two or three quarterback list, right He's He's one

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Speaker 4: it's it's widely accepted. You can you can have conversations

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Speaker 4: whatever whatever. But the thing that Bills fans. I think

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Speaker 4: the way through that first year and in his second year,

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Speaker 4: you look at the at the improved, the tangible stuff

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Speaker 4: you watched. I mean, he just got better. He knocked

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Speaker 4: out big mistakes. He didn't do this anymore, you know,

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Speaker 4: he didn't. He started to throw it away when the

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Speaker 4: play was dead. He'd run and he'd run out of bounds.

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Speaker 4: He wouldn't take hits. He started eating, he jumping, jumping over.

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Speaker 4: He still does that once in a while, you know.

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Speaker 4: But the guy has gotten better and better and better.

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Speaker 4: And in in twenty twenty, when they took that enormous

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Speaker 4: improved and cut out the big miss He continues to

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Speaker 4: do that. And now because he's come so.

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Speaker 3: Far, it's more it's more heightened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more pinpoint of what he's working on. And

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Speaker 4: certainly a lot of what he works on now and

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Speaker 4: what you've heard, you know, heard conversations and stuff is

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Speaker 4: stuff inside the offense that he needs to do. And

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Speaker 4: Brownie says it, you know, just be satisfied with he's

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Speaker 4: he's so he was. He didn't want to take the

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Speaker 4: easy throat. Yeah, it was too easy. He wanted to

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Speaker 4: get the big the big chunk. Maybe a little too often,

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Speaker 4: probably a little too often. But he has improved. You

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Speaker 4: said it, Maddie. He improves tangibly every year, and it's

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Speaker 4: fun to think about what that's going to look like.

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Speaker 2: And I think this team, and yes, they have it

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Speaker 2: every year, but I think it gets bigger and bigger

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Speaker 2: every season that they don't meet the goal of winning

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, making it to a Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 2: think that chip on their shoulder, that f you attitude

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Speaker 2: grows bigger and bigger and bigger. For this team, they

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Speaker 2: have an attitude of us against the world.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a little bit of where the the

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Speaker 4: Steph Diggs thing came into when in this in the

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Speaker 4: OTAs he came in and said, listen what I want

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Speaker 4: to You know, he had a hard conversation with Sean

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Speaker 4: and I don't know what happened in there. I'm only surmising.

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Speaker 4: Steff goes, what are we going to do different this year?

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Speaker 4: We've been getting snapped off at the last game every year.

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Speaker 4: What are we going to do different this year. Sean

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Speaker 4: had some answers for him and say, here's what we're

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Speaker 4: gonna do different. Here's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: That guy's a competitor. He wears his heart on his sleeve.

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Speaker 2: He wants to win.

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Speaker 4: And that's how they want it. That's how they want him.

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Speaker 4: You don't want him to change. You want him that guy.

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Speaker 4: And that's and you know, because I just I came

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Speaker 3: He was fired.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else nobody like, nobody's picking us. I mean nobody.

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Speaker 4: All the ESPN guys, the NFL network guys, they're all

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Speaker 4: dude to that. Fine, Yeah, I'm ok. I'm doing it

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Speaker 4: And I tell all you can imagine coming around going

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Speaker 4: around Buffalo, you probably get asked too. You go out

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Speaker 4: places and pop, hi, hey, Maddie, what do you really

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Speaker 4: think about the team? You get it all the time, right, Well,

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Speaker 4: I get it, and I tell everybody's the same thing.

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Speaker 4: They're a wrecking crew. They are gonna crush people. You're

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Speaker 4: no matter how good you play, you ain't good enough.

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Speaker 4: If they don't play well and you play your best,

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Speaker 4: teams that beats them by three. Yeah, if you don't,

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Speaker 2: I think the beast has been awoken within this team

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Speaker 2: after the way that last season ended, what they went through, right,

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Speaker 2: the being counted out this preseason, That's how this team

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Speaker 2: wants it. They want to be those underdogs. They weren't

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Speaker 2: the underdogs last year. They love being the underdog and

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Speaker 2: proving people wrong. And who knows, maybe once training camp

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Speaker 2: going to look this season, and the connection and the

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Speaker 2: chemistry that has just improved between Josh Allen and Ken Dorsey,

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Speaker 2: maybe once some national people start to come to camp

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Speaker 2: soon enough, maybe the narrative will change a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Cause you know how it is though, I mean for

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Speaker 4: most people, particularly in the social media age we live in.

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Speaker 4: It's it's about a headline and having a hot take

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Speaker 4: attention for your for your story. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 4: It's not really about going digging deep and saying the

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Speaker 4: Bills haven't done anything to improve their you know, the

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Speaker 4: offensive line, not realizing the biggest free agent contract they

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Speaker 4: gave out all years to the offensive guard Connor McGovern.

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Speaker 4: They invested a second round pick in an offensive guard.

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Speaker 4: They brought in the starting guard for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: champion La Rams two years ago. They got you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing after another. They brought in

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Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are so they just don't I'm

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Speaker 4: I heard a National guy say that those exact thing

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Speaker 4: their offensive line. I don't know, they haven't really improved.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so these guys show up here, and some of

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Speaker 2: This team won seven straight games to end the regular season.

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Speaker 4: scored ten points. They didn't score ten points. The lowest

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was that was the win.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, the Jets are good and the Dolphins are good,

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Speaker 2: Well, we are already on one at one twenty three

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Speaker 2: on a Thursday afternoon for the season, which kicks off

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Speaker 2: on week one, September eleventh, the game against the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets. They had their first practice today.

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Speaker 3: I thought Aaron Rodgers was supposed to speak.

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Speaker 2: I saw some tweets saying that people were expecting that.

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Speaker 2: Haven't seen any quotes come out yet about that, but

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Speaker 2: we'll let you know. We'll keep you posted about any

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Speaker 2: practice updates. I know some people are tired of hearing

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Speaker 2: about the Jets, but.

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Speaker 3: We're just starting up with that talk.

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Speaker 2: We've got Sam Monson from PFF on the show today.

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Speaker 2: He just released the fifty best players in the NFL

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Speaker 2: right now that came out today, and Josh Allen and

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs were on that list, So we'll definitely talk

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Speaker 2: to him about that and where they rank on the

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Speaker 2: list as well.

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Speaker 3: We also have a topic today, what should.

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Speaker 2: The bill top three goals for this year's training camp

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Speaker 2: B So you can tweet at us call us eighth three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty. There's a lot of things that you

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Speaker 2: could put as the top three goals for this team

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Speaker 2: in training camp. One of them could just be as

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Speaker 2: simple as staying healthy. Getting healthy, staying healthy. That could

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Speaker 2: be one and two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody's ever wishing anybody get hurt, but I think

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Speaker 4: if you want to, you gotta. I think most important

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Speaker 4: thing is get everybody on the same page the whole team, offense, defense,

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Speaker 4: Get them into the culture, get them to where they

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Speaker 4: feel like a team together when they walk in. There's

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Speaker 4: nobody on the team that you can't talk to as

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Speaker 4: a player. You gotta walk in with whoever it is

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Speaker 4: you see, whether he's an offensive guy or defensive guy,

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Speaker 4: you say, hey man, you know and your friends. That's

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Speaker 4: job one at training camp and that's why I think

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Speaker 4: one of the big things that Sean McDermott feels is

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Speaker 4: important taking them away. They're only over there for sixteen practices.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's it. Sixteen practices over there, and then

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Speaker 4: a couple of them intersperse practices here. Yeah, but during

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Speaker 4: that time, but over there there's only going to be

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Speaker 4: sixteen practices. And so you get those guys to where

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Speaker 4: they can walk into the locker room and who no

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Speaker 4: matter what teammate they see, they meet, you know, with

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Speaker 4: their buddies with them. Right, that's job one in a

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Speaker 4: training camp. And then the next thing, of course, is

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Speaker 4: to get everybody to where they are a PhD level

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Speaker 4: in their offensive or defensive schemes. You've got to have

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Speaker 4: a doctorate degree in the offense you're running or the

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Speaker 4: defensive scheme you're running. And once everybody's on that page,

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Speaker 4: you know, you can shift gears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple items we want to get to before

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Speaker 2: the break. Some news around the NFL. So let's go

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Speaker 2: around the NFL presented by Kaleida Health, and we were

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Speaker 2: talking about the Jets wanting to trade wide receiver Denzel Mims. Well,

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Speaker 2: that happened yesterday after the show broke went last night,

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Speaker 2: I saw that come across. The Jets are trading wide

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Speaker 2: receiver Denzel Mims to the Lions. The Lions are also

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Speaker 2: getting a twenty twenty five to seventh round pick. The

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Speaker 2: Jets get a twenty twenty five conditional sixth round pick.

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Speaker 2: Other Jets news, Breice Hall, Randall Cobb, and cj Uzama

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Speaker 2: are all going to start training camp on the.

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Speaker 3: Active pup list.

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Speaker 2: I saw an article come out shortly within the last

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Speaker 2: few minutes about Brice Hall and kind of saying that

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Speaker 2: they're hoping and thinking that he'll be ready for that

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Speaker 2: Week one game against the Bills, but they want to

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Speaker 2: slow play his injury, slow play him coming back onto

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Speaker 2: the field. According to Robert Sala, who spoke with the media,

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Speaker 2: I believe after practice today they had their first training

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Speaker 2: camp practice. We're awaiting to hear from Aaron Rodgers. We'll

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Speaker 2: let you know if any fun quotes come out of

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Speaker 2: that press conference. So a little bit of news and

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Speaker 2: notes there on the Jets, and we talked about the

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Speaker 2: running backs. Some of the big names that we're hoping

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Speaker 2: for long term extensions didn't get that when the deadline hit.

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Speaker 2: They'll be now playing on the franchise tags. Some of

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Speaker 2: them will see when they report to training camp if

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Speaker 2: they do. Saquon Barkley is one of those players. The

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Speaker 2: giants in Saquon, we're in talks. It seems like almost

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Speaker 2: all off season trying to come to terms on a deal.

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Speaker 3: It didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: And so Saquon Barkley is my is now saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: I might have to sit out this season because he's

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Speaker 2: not happy with that franchise tag being placed on him.

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Speaker 2: The last time a running back set out for a season,

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Speaker 2: Bell Le'Veon Bell, it did not work out for him.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to put them in the same box together.

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Speaker 4: But you can't.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: You can't do it. You can't sit out. Don't don't

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Speaker 4: be a dope. They're giving you. They're giving you ten

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Speaker 4: point nine million dollars. Take the money, play well, come

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Speaker 4: back and get another deal next year from a from

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Speaker 4: them or somebody else. You cannot taken a year off,

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Speaker 4: does nothing but sap a year and and it will

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Speaker 4: lessen your appeal to other teams. Say no question, and

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Speaker 4: I I don't know. I don't get the outrage about

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Speaker 4: how running backs are being underpaid or undervalued. Well, here's

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Speaker 4: the reason. You know, there's a ton of really good

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Speaker 4: athletes out there who know how to run the football.

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Speaker 4: And the drop off between an elite running back and

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Speaker 4: a just an okay running back isn't tangible enough to

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Speaker 4: justify millions and millions of dollars. You can you can

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Speaker 4: get more production on your football team by spending those

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Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars on a receiver or a

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Speaker 4: pass rusher or a corner. Uh, the drop off between

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Speaker 4: an elite running back and a and a good running

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Speaker 4: back is not significant enough to warrant the kind of

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Speaker 4: money you're putting into them. So that's you know, you

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Speaker 4: take saquon, take the money, take the one year, take

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Speaker 4: the deal. It's guaranteed once you sign the deal, and

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Speaker 4: move on and play your best and bless your heart,

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Speaker 4: stay healthy. You know that's it's it's a sport like that,

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Speaker 4: that's the way. That's the way the world turns. It's

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Speaker 4: you don't have to like it, but that's the reality

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Speaker 4: of it, and you're not gonna You're not gonna fight it.

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Speaker 4: It's just the way it is. You're not gonna get

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Speaker 4: that money. You're not gonna get a fifteen million dollar

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Speaker 4: a year deal, a five year deal like that. Guaranteed,

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Speaker 4: it's not gonna happen. There's just too much history of

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Speaker 4: teams doing that and not having it work out. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm I wouldn't be I mean, I get it. Saquon

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Speaker 4: might hold out because now he's backed himself into a corner.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a mistake. You got to take the money,

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Speaker 4: play this year, play well, and then make hay next

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Speaker 4: year in your next contract if you can.

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Speaker 2: One more quick note before we go to break. The

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Speaker 2: NFL owners are a meeting today in Minneapolis where they're

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Speaker 2: expected to approve the sale of the Washington Commanders from

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Speaker 2: Dan Snyder to Josh Harris. Harris is most known for

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Speaker 2: his ownership of the NBA's Philadelphia seventy six ers and

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Speaker 2: the NHL's New Jersey Devils, So we're also awaiting news

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Speaker 2: on that, expected for that to come today. All right,

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Speaker 2: break time for us When we come back, we'll dip

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Speaker 2: into that tweet sheet. Answer any calls. Give us call

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Speaker 2: at eighth three to five point fifty. What should be

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Speaker 2: the Bill's top three goals for this year's training camp?

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Speaker 2: Where One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. We're back here on One Bill's Live or

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Speaker 2: discussing our topic for today. What should the Bill's top

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Speaker 2: three goals for this year's training can't be? Let's get

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Speaker 2: to our tweet sheet brought to you by the Corgan

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Speaker 2: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: and we'll first go to Bills Fan number one. They say,

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Speaker 2: the trenches, quick passing game, and also the kicking game.

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Speaker 2: With the new rules in effect this year, we need

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Speaker 2: to find new ways to keep the kicking game part

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Speaker 2: of the game. Sometimes that's what gets a team jacked

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Speaker 2: up when a good special teams play happens. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about those three tasker? Let's go first with

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Speaker 2: the trenches.

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Speaker 4: Agree, Yes, yeah, I mean that's where it starts. It's yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's right. I mean it's an old It all starts

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Speaker 4: up front, and that's true, and it's everybody's tired of

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Speaker 4: hearing it because it's not flashy, it's not creative.

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Speaker 3: It's not a never changes.

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Speaker 4: It's a physical game. And the bigger, stronger, faster, moreletic,

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Speaker 4: most athletic you have up front that can dominate the

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Speaker 4: other side of line scrimmage, you win games. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's it. That's why you and I are and Brownie

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Speaker 4: and we've all been talking about the offensive line, the

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Speaker 4: revamped offensive line, and the defensive guys coming back. How

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Speaker 4: excited we are about it because it all starts up there.

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Speaker 4: And I think Brandon and Sean, even early in their

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Speaker 4: tenure here, had it proven to them time and time

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Speaker 4: again how important it was. And I don't think they've forgotten.

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Speaker 2: What about the kicking game With the new rules in

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Speaker 2: effect this year, finding new ways to keep the kicking

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Speaker 2: game a part of those games, part of the game.

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Speaker 2: I kind of look of that as like the team

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Speaker 2: is going to adjust to the new rules, just like

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Speaker 2: every other team in the NFL is going to adjust

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Speaker 2: to the new rules. And this coaching staff isn't going

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Speaker 2: to go away at all from their belief in what

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Speaker 2: special teams can do in that third phase.

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Speaker 6: Of the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna. It brings in one more aspect where

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Speaker 4: you can make choices about the kicking game, and I

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Speaker 4: have When they had the kickoff summit the last time,

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Speaker 4: its four or five years ago. I can't remember exactly

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Speaker 4: what it was. I was actually invited, and there's fifty

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Speaker 4: people in the room and Troy Vinson, who's the vice

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Speaker 4: president of football Operations for the NFL, kind of led

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Speaker 4: the meeting, also with Rich McKay. Once it really got going,

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Speaker 4: Rich McKay took over, and they were committed at that

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Speaker 4: time to keep what they called keeping the foot in

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Speaker 4: the game of football. They wanted the kicking game to

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Speaker 4: remain a part of the game, and they seemed committed

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Speaker 4: to it. But they're only going to go so far

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Speaker 4: because if it continues to be buying but far and

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Speaker 4: away the most dangerous play in football, they're going to

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Speaker 4: do something with it. If it was more in line

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Speaker 4: with the rest of the football plays in a game,

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Speaker 4: they probably wouldn't touch it. But they're going to continue

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Speaker 4: to tinker with it, and it becomes harder and harder.

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Speaker 4: Even in this day and age. For the last ten

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Speaker 4: or fifteen years, it's more difficult to make an impact

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Speaker 4: on specialty because of alignment rules, you know, clean even

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Speaker 4: the clean hands rule that came into effect when I

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Speaker 4: was playing. You know, all this new the rule changes

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Speaker 4: in the evolution of the game has really made it

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Speaker 4: more and more difficult for a great Special Teams player

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Speaker 4: to be impactful. Not it was much easier in my day,

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Speaker 4: back in the early nineties, late eighties. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's going to continue and how far they're going

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Speaker 4: to go with it. It's true. Think about think about that

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Speaker 4: Naheem Heinz kickoff return in the Patriot game. I've never

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Speaker 4: seen a play like I've never had a play affect me.

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Speaker 4: You and I were sitting next to each other. Remember,

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Speaker 4: I've never had a play affect me like that as

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Speaker 4: a as a a spectator or maybe he was a player.

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Speaker 4: I have never seen any play offense, defense, or special

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Speaker 4: teams have that effect on the crowd or me, or

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Speaker 4: the players or the league. The way that play did

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Speaker 4: it was it was moving. Yeah, and Josh, you know,

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Speaker 4: Josh after the game said, Hey, that it just proved

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Speaker 4: it God is real. You know, That's that's how big

652
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: it was. All that. You know, plays like that will

653
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: never happen if if the league doesn't make an effort

654
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Speaker 4: to make sure the possibility remains that they can. It's

655
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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it was no question. It would

656
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Speaker 4: be very, very sad if you take that possibility away

657
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 4: from the game, that something unbelievable could happen. Yeah, because

658
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: if the guy's back there fair catching it, nothing special is.

659
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Speaker 3: Ever going to happen. That's true. We'll see what happens

660
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: with it this year.

661
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Speaker 2: I mean from year to year, the league is making

662
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: changes and they have put rules in place, and then

663
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: the next year they change them.

664
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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. Maybe that's going to be

665
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Speaker 3: the case.

666
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: Maybe everybody decides, hey, this is this is better for

667
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: the game because of safety or x y Z. We

668
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: know that's at the forefront of some of those decisions

669
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: as well. Number two from Low Buffalo, they say, set

670
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: the middle linebacker depth chart, test the plan for attacking

671
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: the middle of the field, whether it's kinkaid twelve personnel,

672
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Deonta Hardy, et cetera. And third, settle the right guard battle.

673
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: Those are three good goals pretty specific too.

674
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

675
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: The one you gotta do it whether you like it

676
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 3: or not.

677
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, you're gonna do it, somebody's gonna line up there.

678
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: It's and there's so much we don't know. Sean McDermott

679
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: doing the defense may bring up different personnel combinations than

680
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: we've seen under Leslie Fraser. They were always the same

681
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: eleven guys on the field. There were two defensive tackles,

682
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: two defensive ends, and then the DBS linebackers and DBS uh.

683
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: It never varied. It was always Milano and Edmonds, Poyer

684
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: and Hyde, the three corners and the four defensive linemen

685
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: always except you know, unless a short yardage goal line?

686
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: Is Sean McDermott going to have that same philosophy? And

687
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: was how much of a part of that was he?

688
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: You know, was that his insistence that it stayed that way?

689
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: Don't know. The players may change this year. We said

690
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: it yesterday. Tarren Johnson gives them the ability and confidence

691
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: to go ahead and play nickel ninety five percent of

692
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: the time because he's competitive and he jumps in on

693
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: the run game hard. He's a buck ninety two. He's little,

694
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: but he still brings it. You know, he's still physical

695
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: and can still tackle guys and he and he likes

696
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: to do it. He's competitive. Guys like that allow you

697
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: to do things defensively. Do they continue to do that?

698
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: He's gonna be in his sixth year now, that's that's

699
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: Those are a lot of questions we got to answer

700
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: and that and maybe that's as important as any of

701
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 4: the things that you know, low Buffalo here is saying

702
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: on the tweet sheet.

703
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: And then testing that plan for a time backing the

704
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: middle of the field, regardless of who it's going to be.

705
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: I think this offense is going to test a lot

706
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: of things out during training camp, a lot of combinations,

707
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: a lot of personnel groupings out to see what's going

708
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: to be their bread and butter this year. I know,

709
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: we know that we've got Josh Allen on our team

710
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: and this team is going to be a pass heavy offense.

711
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: But within that, how are they going to do it?

712
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: How are they going to attack the field? How are

713
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: you going to get digs the ball when maybe you

714
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: have some other exciting pieces on the field that defenses

715
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: will decide to pay attention to so you can get

716
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: digs on a one on one matchup.

717
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to be more fun for us,

718
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 4: meaning you me, fans, people watching to see who's playing

719
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: on offense. How much is how much is Kincaid getting in?

720
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: How much is Dawson, Knox and Kincaid getting in? Are

721
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: they rotating? Are they in together? Are they separate? James Cook,

722
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 4: Damien Harris, Latavious Murray, what's gonna happen there? Digs, Gabe Davis,

723
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 4: Trent Sherfield and Khalis Shakir, Deontay Hardy. Who's in with?

724
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: Who who's playing? Who's lining up? How do they look?

725
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: And I don't care what routes they're all running. Where

726
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: are they lining up? And who they on the field with.

727
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: That'll tell you a lot about what they think of

728
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: the guy. If King Kid never puts his hand on

729
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: the ground, that'll tell you a lot about where they're

730
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: gonna use him. Right. If he's never in a three

731
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: point stance outside of tackle, he's always standing up, Okay,

732
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: that may tell you something. Same thing with James Cook.

733
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: How often is he in the backfield and then moves

734
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: out of the backfield or lines up at the slot

735
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: and then moves back into the tailback spot. How much

736
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: is he moving around at all period? You know, the

737
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: more he moves around when he's on the field in practice,

738
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 4: to me, that tells you that that's how much they're

739
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: gonna use him, because if he just goes lining up

740
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: and stands back there, yeah, they're not. They're not using

741
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: the skill set that we think he has. You know

742
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They're not using him as a route

743
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: runner and as a shift guys. They're just gonna put

744
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 4: him at tail back and leave him there. That doesn't

745
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: mean they can't use him effectively there, but you know

746
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: what I mean, it means they believe in him as

747
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 4: a split wide receiver. If they're putting him out there,

748
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: and if he's moving around and staying out there, it's

749
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: even more faith in him because they want to see

750
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Speaker 4: what defenses think of him.

751
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Speaker 2: He showed some of that at Georgia, and that's why

752
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: they drafted him because they believe that he had the

753
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: potential to do something like that.

754
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Speaker 3: I think he had some supposed to place last year.

755
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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

756
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see all this stuff.

757
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: And then lastly, the right guard battle settling that that'll

758
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: be really interesting to watch to see who they're putting

759
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: in there. We we got a little bit of a

760
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: glimpse of that during OTAs and mandatory Mini camp, but

761
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: the pads weren't on yet, we weren't playing football yet.

762
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 4: We haven't seen anything.

763
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Speaker 3: That starts next week.

764
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be fun. It's going to be a lot

765
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: of fun to see and I'm I'm excited to see

766
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: this roster take shape, no question.

767
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: All right, don't forget.

768
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Speaker 2: We've got Sam Monson from PFF coming on the show

769
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 2: at two o'clock, so shortly when we come back from break, we'll.

770
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Speaker 3: Take a couple of calls.

771
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: We've got a few callers hanging on the line, so

772
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Speaker 2: stick with us here on One Bill's Live. We're presented

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774
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Speaker 2: for today, what should the Bill's top three goals for.

784
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Speaker 3: This year's training camp be.

785
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: We've got some callers that have been hanging on the line,

786
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: so let's get over to Kevin from Hamburg.

787
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Speaker 3: Kevin, you're on with us now. How are you doing today? Kevin?

788
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Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call?

789
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: You bet?

790
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? What do you think the top three goals should

791
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 3: be for this team?

792
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 5: Timately? I talked about yesterday about the Packer game on

793
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: is work on lackup turnovers this year? Definitely concentrate on

794
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: that the trenches, like the one guy tweeted. And also

795
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: I want to bring up something about the Minnesota Viking game,

796
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: about when we were out twenty and seven to ten

797
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: or something in the second half and we had him

798
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 5: on the ropes and that Delvin Cook ran. They ran

799
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 5: like how many yards?

800
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Speaker 4: Even though the.

801
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: Build was so up you could tell the air had

802
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 5: been like they you know, I got kick in the

803
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 5: cut out of that stadium. Even though there's a lot

804
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: of game left and the Bills still could have won,

805
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 5: it was like that, like uh oh. You can tell

806
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 5: Bill's fans faces in the end zone when that guy

807
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 5: ran in the end zone. Cook, They're like, uh oh,

808
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: this is gonna look scarier than it really should be

809
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 5: or should have been. So not letting an opponent because

810
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: Delvin Cook didn't do that wonderful in that game except

811
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Speaker 5: for that main big play, and not letting an opponent's

812
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 5: running big play, because the running play be something that

813
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 5: bursts your bubble, even if it's not in the end

814
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 5: of the game.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank yeah, thanks Kevin. You're right. Turnovers and drops

816
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: we've taught, we've been harping on for weeks. If the

817
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: Bills don't if they could cut those in half, which

818
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 4: is very plausible, it's not, it's not that would even

819
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: be a big deal. It wouldn't even be an all

820
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: time low and turnovers or drops if they cut him

821
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: in half, that's how bad they were last year. They

822
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 4: would go a long way toward giving them a bigger

823
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: margin of error and also keeping a lid on the defense,

824
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: not letting explosive plays go. You're right. The Bills were

825
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: up seventeen points at the start of the fourth quarter

826
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Speaker 4: against the Minnesota Vikings and they lost that game in overtime.

827
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: They had no business doing it. And yeah, the Dalvin

828
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: Cook play was a big part of that. It would

829
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: have meant nothing. Had the Bills been able to execute

830
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: one quarterback sneak for no gain, that's it. Or if

831
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: cam Lewis swatched the ball out of the air instead

832
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: of trying for the interception and literally helping Justin Jefferson

833
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: catch a fourth and eighteen pass, they win that game.

834
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: There's two plays that are game stoppers right there, and

835
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: the Bills couldn't execute either one of them. One was

836
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: as simple as a quarterback sneak for no gain and

837
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: it turned catastrophically into a touchdown for the Minnesota Vikings.

838
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: So you tell me a couple of plays that could

839
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: go catastrophically wrong in a game and both of which

840
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: had to happen for the Vikings to beat the Bills. Here, Yes,

841
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: you're right, the Dalvin Cook play is one you'd like

842
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 4: to have back. It was a long run for a touchdown.

843
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: It gave them. It gave the Bills a ten point

844
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: lead rather than a seventeen point lead. But you go

845
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: back and look at the Minnesota Viking game and that

846
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: that game was absolutely at a point where the Bills

847
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: were the better football team and lost that game.

848
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: And Sean McDermott, I mean, throughout the years anytime there's

849
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: been big rushing plays or big plays. I know, big

850
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: plays happen, you know, more frequently than big rushing plays

851
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: for this team in terms of allowing them.

852
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 3: He said, we gotta stop this.

853
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: We cannot do this. We cannot let up the big play.

854
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: And in terms of stats from last year, this team

855
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: ranked seventeenth allowing fifty four opponent rushes of ten or

856
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: more yards, so kind of middle of the pack, but

857
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: middle low of the pack there. And then for plays

858
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: of twenty or more yards this is rushing or in

859
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: the air, they tied for eleventh allowing fifty six plays

860
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: of twenty or more yards. So that's a category that

861
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: this team on defense has honestly ranked pretty high, and

862
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: I think around top ten, top fifteen always, I want

863
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: to say, in the last couple of years they've maybe

864
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: been top five. But yeah, allowing rushes of ten or

865
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: more yards, that's kind of been something that I know

866
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott has harped on before because it has happened

867
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Speaker 2: to this team before.

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00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, explosive plays are what defenses call them, whether it's

869
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 4: by the run of the pass, and they just didn't

870
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: they you know, and Dalvin Cook's a great player, and

871
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: the Vikings were having a great year up to that point,

872
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Speaker 4: and it continued. But I think that game typified their

873
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: entire year. They lived like they did in the Bills

874
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: game for the entire reg season. It was uncanny how

875
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: that game got away from the Buffalo Bills in their

876
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Speaker 4: own building, when they're up seventeen points going into the

877
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Speaker 4: fourth quarter and it wasn't even close, and then all

878
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Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know, get a great player like

879
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook snaps off, finds increase and outruns people to

880
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: the end zone. Then your franchise quarterback and your and

881
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 4: your highest paid offensive lineman, your center, one of your

882
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: highest paid offensive liners center, they can't execute an exchange.

883
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 4: I know, it's unbelievable. And then not only did it

884
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: not they couldn't execute it, it was a touchdown for

885
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 4: the other other team. I mean, it's amazing, it's unbelievable.

886
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: Tough, uh tough.

887
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: So, you know, so all of that stuff happening, it's

888
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 4: it's crazy. It is absolutely crazy. So yeah, you can

889
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 4: point to a lot of things that happened during the

890
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: regular season and how crazy it was, and I get it,

891
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: But the Bills are a really good football team. They

892
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: played really good. The only time teams beat him was

893
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 4: when the Bills made a mistake or did it to themselves,

894
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 4: and that's what happened to them in Minnesota Icon Game twice.

895
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: So we'll, you know, you just kind of move on

896
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: from it, try and learn from it. We'll see if

897
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: it happens.

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Speaker 2: When we return from break. Sam Monson from PFF will

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Speaker 2: be joining us. He just released the top fifty best

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Speaker 2: players in the NFL right now. Josh Allen and Stefan

901
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: Diggs made that list, so we'll definitely ask him about that.

902
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Speaker 3: So don't go anywhere. Stick with this here on.

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live were presented by Colida Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Our number two for us.

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Speaker 2: Maddi Glab here alongside of Steve Tasker, and we're rolling

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Speaker 2: right on. We've got our guest coming on with us now.

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Speaker 2: Sam Monson from PFF joins us on the show. He's

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Speaker 2: the lead analyst lead NFL analyst for PFF and he's

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Speaker 2: also the co host of the PFF NFL Show. So

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Speaker 2: Sam thanks for taking the time to join with us.

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Speaker 2: I know you've got your top fifty list that is

915
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Speaker 2: coming out the top ten at least tomorrow. We know

916
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Speaker 2: eleven through fifty, and we're excited to get into that

917
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Speaker 2: with you today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, for most people realize it's going to be

920
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen at the top of the Bills list. On

921
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Speaker 4: this he comes in at number twelve, and people are like, going, ah,

922
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: he's better. Well, he's his second best quarterback on your list,

923
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Speaker 4: and you've got guys like Aaron Donald and all these guys.

924
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of really elite players on

925
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 4: this list. What's the most difficult part about comparing a

926
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Speaker 4: defensive lineman pass rusher to a quarterback, or a great

927
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: running back to a wide receiver or corner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all really difficult.

929
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Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things we felt when

930
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Speaker 1: we were doing this list, and it's important to point

931
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Speaker 1: out it's not just my list. A bunch of other

932
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Speaker 1: names in PFAF involved, so we can spread the blame around,

933
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Speaker 1: you know, But when we were doing the list, we

934
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Speaker 1: felt a lot like we had the top twelve guys

935
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Speaker 1: and there were twelve names, and you're going to fit

936
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Speaker 1: ten of them into a top ten list.

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Speaker 6: So we're kind of looking at this list.

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Speaker 1: Going two of these top ten players are going to

939
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Speaker 1: have to be ranked outside the top ten. We've got

940
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Speaker 1: twelve guys for ten spots, and Josh Allen was one

941
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Speaker 1: of those players that just missed out.

942
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Speaker 6: But it's difficult, you know.

943
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Speaker 1: I think one way of doing it is to try

944
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Speaker 1: and look at these guys relative to their peers, and

945
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Speaker 1: that's always been the way that we've sort of articulated

946
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: how good Aaron Donald has been in the past. Is

947
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Speaker 1: to say, that's really difficult to directly compare Josh Allen,

948
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Donald. But one thing you can

949
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Speaker 1: do is say the gap between Donald and the next

950
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: guy has always been so huge, and it isn't necessarily

951
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: the case when it comes to quarterbacks. You know, in

952
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: any given year, Josh Allen could be the best quarterback

953
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Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes. It's a lot closer

954
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Speaker 1: together than it is at some of these positions where

955
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Speaker 1: there's clearly one guy who's head and shoulders above the

956
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Speaker 1: rest at that position.

957
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Speaker 2: So comparing the other players, like you just did. For

958
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Speaker 2: those who want to know, Justin Jefferson was number eleven

959
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: from the Minnesota Vikings. We don't know one through ten

960
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: yet again, that's going to drop tomorrow on Friday, July

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Speaker 2: twenty first. But number twelve for Josh Allen, why is

962
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: he deserving? If we're painting it in a positive light,

963
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: you know, you explain it's really tough. We thought there

964
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Speaker 2: were twelve people who could fit into the top ten.

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00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: Why is Josh Allen deserving of being one of the

966
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: best in the NFL?

967
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Speaker 3: In your eyes?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've already seen what he's capable of at

969
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: his peak, which is as good as any quarterback in

970
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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's gone toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes,

971
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Speaker 1: you know, on the biggest stage in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: And he didn't come up short.

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Speaker 1: You know that the defense was what ended up letting

974
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Speaker 1: them down in that game, But Josh Allen was lugging

975
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Speaker 1: it out with Patrick Mahomes and playing at that kind

976
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: of level and looking every bit as good. And I

977
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Speaker 1: think when Josh Allen is playing at his best, he's

978
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: in that same category of there's no answer, there's no

979
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: solution to this, there's no defense you can call that

980
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: he won't make wrong by just being better than you

981
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: are and out executing whatever it is, whether it's with

982
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: his arm, whether it's with his legs, He's capable of

983
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: that kind of play.

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00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that separates him from Patrick Mahomes

986
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: right now is that, certainly last season Allen was prone

987
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: to a few more mistakes than Patrick Mahomes was And

988
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: that's the one area of his game that would give

989
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: you just a little concern relative to somebody like Mahomes.

990
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: And when I say concern, you know, we're saying he's

991
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: the twelfth best player in the entire NFL. So it's

992
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: not like Josh Allen is anything other than a superstar.

993
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: But these are the kind of hairs we're splitting when

994
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: we're ranking the top fifty guys in the league.

995
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, you know you kind of got to run

996
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: into that, you can say Mahomes and Allen because there

997
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: just skill set is so much on display every play

998
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: because you're looking right at him with the ball in

999
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: their hands. Meanwhile, you got wide receivers like Justin Jefferson,

1000
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: Steph Diggs, Chase, Jamar Chase. You know, the go down

1001
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 4: the list of elite aj Brown, you know, gets down

1002
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: the list of these wide receivers, it's hard to quantify

1003
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: how different they are and how much do you think

1004
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: who's throwing them the ball plays into the hierarchy of

1005
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: who's playing. Well, you know, you've got Ceedee Lamb in Dallas,

1006
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: you got all these great players, and it really does

1007
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 4: a lot of times depend on who's calling the plays

1008
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: and who's pulling the.

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00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 6: It does.

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00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: It's a huge factor. It's really It's why it's really

1011
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: difficult to rank football players. It's not just you know,

1012
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: how do you compare a wide receiver to a defensive tackle,

1013
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: to a cornerback to a quarterback. You have to be

1014
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: aware of the other factors and the supporting cast and

1015
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: how much each other position sort of affects each one

1016
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: of those players. And for wide receivers, it's absolutely relevant

1017
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 1: who's throwing them the football. And for a guy like

1018
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, that's why I think last season was big

1019
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: for him. He stepped outside of the embrace of Aaron

1020
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers and showed that he could still be the same

1021
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: guy with a different quarterback, and I think objectively a

1022
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: worse quarterback. You know, Derek Carr is not a Hall

1023
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback like Aaron Rodgers was so being able

1024
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: to do the same thing and keep on trucking with

1025
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: a different environment and a different guy throwing in the

1026
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: football was huge for somebody like Devonte Adams. But you absolutely,

1027
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: you know, have to bear that in mind when you're

1028
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: looking at, you know, maybe a down season.

1029
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: From a certain player.

1030
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: Did his supporting cast fail him or did he have

1031
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: a down year that in any given season.

1032
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Speaker 2: Stephan Diggs ranks at number twenty four on the top fifty.

1033
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: When you're looking at just wide receivers, he ranks fifth best.

1034
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: Heading into the twenty twenty three season. What do you

1035
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: think is in store for Stefan Diggs this year with

1036
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: the Bills?

1037
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he'll have another fantastic season. Stefon

1038
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Diggs has only been productive with that Bills offense. He's

1039
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: still by far their number one threat, their number one target.

1040
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: There's no reason he shouldn't have another season that you know,

1041
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: leads the league in categories or threatens to lead the league.

1042
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: He's incredibly productive, one of the best route runners in

1043
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. Always been a better contested catch guy than

1044
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: you would expect for somebody that size. I think he

1045
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: caught fifty percent of the contested balls thrown his way

1046
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: last season, which is a very high number, particularly for

1047
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: a guy that isn't you know, six three, two hundred

1048
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds that kind of thing. So, and the

1049
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: connection he has with Josh Allen is special. So absolutely

1050
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: I would expect him to have another phenomenal year this season.

1051
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 4: One of the other articles you've written about is has

1052
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: to do with coaching and the offensive coordinators around the league.

1053
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Speaker 4: And one of the interesting premises that you made, the

1054
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 4: point that you made, which I gotta admit it escaped

1055
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: me for a minute, there's not that many offensive coordinators

1056
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 4: that would fall into a top ten because you've got

1057
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 4: guys that are just like Bill O'Brien in New England,

1058
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: really pretty good offensive coordinator by any standard, but he

1059
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: was at Alabama last year. Same thing all over the league.

1060
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: Plus you've got guys like Eric Binemy, who in Kansas

1061
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: City was called the offensive coordinator, but Andy Reid standing

1062
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 4: there with a play sheet in his hand. All kinds

1063
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 4: of unique situations all around the NFL. For all thirty

1064
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: two teams only there's less than half of the teams

1065
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 4: that have a clear cut offensive coordinator who have like

1066
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 4: maybe a like in Buffalo, a defensive head coach who's

1067
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: not calling plays and never will. That's becoming more and

1068
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: more rare, or at least it's more unique than it

1069
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: has been in the past.

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in this in today's NFL that's driven

1071
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: by offense. These offensive coordinators, as soon as they show anything,

1072
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: they're hired immediately to be head coaches and to bring

1073
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: their system to a team that's struggling and try and

1074
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, resuscitate a franchise. So you're left with basically

1075
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: half the league that are either first or second year

1076
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators.

1077
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Speaker 6: There's another group that.

1078
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: You mentioned that the likes that are doing it under

1079
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach who it's difficult to figure

1080
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: out how much they're doing relative to the head coach

1081
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: pulling the strings. And then there's a few of these

1082
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of retreads and proven commodities of

1083
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: some description but have had to go elsewhere or had

1084
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: to take a step down. So, you know, we did

1085
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators a few weeks ago, and we did head coaches,

1086
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: and nobody at THEFF wanted to do the offensive coordinator

1087
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: list because you're kind of left with this situation of

1088
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: how much do we know about so many of these guys?

1089
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: List feels like it should really be sort of five

1090
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: names strong, and then you get into trying to do

1091
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: a bit of guess work. But it's a very sort

1092
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: of strange landscape right now. When it comes to offensive

1093
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: coordinators in the NFL.

1094
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey earned himself number two, number five on that

1095
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: list for top offensive coordinators in the NFL, and number

1096
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: one were the Detroit Lions, Ben Johnson, than Kellen Moore

1097
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: from the Chargers, Bill O'Brien from the Patriots, and Shane

1098
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: Waldron from the Seattle Seahawks. That means the Kansadity Chiefs

1099
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 2: were outside of the top five. I know our fans

1100
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: are probably happy to hear that, but why did Ken

1101
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: Dorsey earn number five on this list? We saw him

1102
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: in his first year with the team and the team

1103
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: averaged over twenty eight points a game, which was really

1104
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: great to see them in top five in a lot

1105
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: of categories on offense. But where do you think this

1106
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: guy can go in year number two with a little

1107
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: bit more comfortability?

1108
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: I think under his belt too.

1109
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as you say, Buffalo were top five

1110
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: and pretty much any meatingful offensive category, whether it was

1111
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: a kind of base number or a more in depth

1112
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: analytical data point that it was one of the best

1113
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL. Obviously having josh Allen Stefon Diggs

1114
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: that's going to help that. But I think we saw

1115
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: that the guy that everybody thought was sort of pulling

1116
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: the strings, the master behind, the mastermind behind this offense left.

1117
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: He got his own head coaching job, and they were

1118
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: able to promote from within and not see a giant

1119
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: drop off, not see, you know, this collapse because the

1120
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: guy that was running it left the building. So I

1121
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: think we saw the occasional questionable play call from from

1122
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, but overall, we clearly saw that this offense

1123
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: was going to continue to play at an extremely high level.

1124
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: And if he, you know, irons out a couple of

1125
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: those errors that he had in year one in year two,

1126
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: then I think he can show himself as one of

1127
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: the better offensive coordinators in the NFL and you know,

1128
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: maybe get his own head coaching opportunity down the line.

1129
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: And it's interesting too, because you do give some credence

1130
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: to what guys have done in the past, which is

1131
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: really the only base as you can, because nobody can

1132
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: predict the future. Kellen Moore leaving Dallas going to the

1133
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: Chargers this year first year is the Chargers offensive coordinator

1134
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 4: who knows how he will do, but certainly a guy

1135
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 4: who has had some success in Dallas. And then of

1136
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 4: course Bill O'Brien coming back to New England. Both those

1137
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 4: guys are Kellen Moore number two on your list, Bill

1138
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: O'Brien number three. And the guy that I'd forgotten about

1139
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: that was really intriguing to me was Shane Waldron. For

1140
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: Bill's fans, they may not know the name Shane Waldron.

1141
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: He's the guy that got the most out of a

1142
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 4: forgotten Geno Smith last year in Seattle. He really got

1143
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: a lot of kudos, and certainly Gino got a lot

1144
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 4: of credit as well, but Shane Waldron really resurrecting the

1145
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: career of Geno Smith in Seattle, and I think, really

1146
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 4: you'd have to put him in a short list of

1147
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: really quality offensive coordinators.

1148
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the funny thing is when Shane Waldron was hired,

1149
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: the conversation was, you know, how is he going to

1150
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: get the most out of Russ Wilson and that offense

1151
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: to a play to Russell Wilson's strengths and you know,

1152
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: try and get him back on track. And then obviously

1153
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gets traded away and Waldron ends up having

1154
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: to do this for a completely different quarterback with a

1155
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: different skill set and ends up getting a career year

1156
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: out of him, and not just a career year, but

1157
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: a year I don't think many people thought was there,

1158
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, a completely unexpected season from Geno Smith. So

1159
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: I think last year generally was very impressive work from

1160
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: Waldron in a very different job requirement than I guess

1161
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: he would have expected to have when they hired it.

1162
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: PFF's lead NFL analyst Sam Monson is on with us.

1163
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: We've been talking about this offense this upcoming season and

1164
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, you know, who's going to be

1165
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: on the field with who, what is this going to

1166
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: look like? Is this team going to run more twelve

1167
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: personnel because they drafted a guy in dn't kincaid, What

1168
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: are going to be the new wrinkles? And you believe

1169
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: that Deontay Hardy, one of the new wide receivers for

1170
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: this team, can have a big role with the Bills

1171
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: this season. And why do you believe that he can

1172
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: be a piece to this offense.

1173
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: He's a really exciting player and obviously his career production

1174
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: isn't there. He hasn't been a high volume guy, but

1175
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he was at his

1176
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: most healthy, is most impactful in that Saints offense. You know,

1177
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, we did a series

1178
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: where we looked at top wide receivers in a lot

1179
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: of different areas, so against man coverage, against press coverage,

1180
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: against zone, in a whole variety of different categories, and

1181
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: the top of the list was all the same guys

1182
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: you expect Stefan Diggs, AJ Brown, you know, Jamar Chase,

1183
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. It was all the elite receivers in the NFL.

1184
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: But if you didn't set the threshold high enough in

1185
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: terms of playing time, Deonte Hardy kept popping into that

1186
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: list as well as somebody that was incredibly productive in

1187
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: a much smaller sample size than any of these other guys.

1188
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: And he's got a lot of the skills that makes

1189
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: him into a high impact type of player. He's got

1190
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: blazing speed, he's got short area quickness. He can make

1191
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: some tested catches as well, and this is by far

1192
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: the best quarterback situation that he's ever going to have

1193
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: played with with Josh Allen. Yes, he played in New Orleans,

1194
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: but it was the very tail end of Drew Brees'

1195
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: career where he didn't have the arm anymore to push

1196
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: it downfield the way he used to. So the environment

1197
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: is here for Hardy to show his best play, and

1198
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: his best play is a problem for defenders to match

1199
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: up with because you don't have players that can rival

1200
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: his speed and quickness and that awkward size. You know,

1201
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: he's such a smaller guy that a six foot one

1202
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: cornerback is not used to dealing with that, and it

1203
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: is a very difficult different type of receiver to try

1204
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: and match up with. So I'm excited for what the

1205
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: additions generally with this Bill's offense can do. Dalton can

1206
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: kay to the draft obviously, and a guy like Deantay Hardy.

1207
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: I think this could be a really fun offense this year,

1208
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: even relative to the last couple of seasons.

1209
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Bills have spent a lot of their

1210
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 4: assets trying to bolstering and refurbishing the offensive lineup front.

1211
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: Their highest up free agent contract was to Connor McGovern

1212
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: from Dallas of the Dallas left guard. They drafted Osirius

1213
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 4: Torrens from Florida and signed David Edwards, who was the

1214
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: starting guard for the Rams in their Super Bowl run

1215
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: two years ago. They put a lot of effort into

1216
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 4: getting that offensive line better, plus bringing in Latavius Murray

1217
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 4: and Damien Harris along with James Cook. There's a lot

1218
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: of thought here in Buffalo that maybe the size and

1219
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: strength and athleticism of the offensive line may dictate maybe

1220
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 4: perhaps a shift or at least a bigger emphasis on

1221
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: situational running plays. Damien Harris, Latavius Murray pounding the rock

1222
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 4: a little bit and taking the burden off Josh Allen,

1223
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: particularly in a short yardage gold line. What do you

1224
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 4: off the top of your head, I know you don't

1225
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: have this at your fingertips. You know Josh Allen's running ability.

1226
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 4: You know it's kind of a gift and a curse.

1227
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: You hate to see called runs by your quarterback, but

1228
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 4: they work when he's the biggest and fastest. Josh, what

1229
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,479
Speaker 4: do LaTavia Murray and Damian Harris and this big offensive line,

1230
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 4: how does that change your view of maybe what Ken

1231
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: Dorsey has at his disposal.

1232
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I think it's about options, you know, and about the

1233
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: number of ways you have to win. And that's a

1234
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: great thing about a guy like Josh Allen is he

1235
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: presents you as many different ways to win as there

1236
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: is at the quarterback position. You know, he's big, he's strong,

1237
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: he's fast, he can over he can run right over

1238
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: defensive backs, he can run around defensive lineman. You know,

1239
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: he brings as many ways to win to the table

1240
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 1: as any quarterback in the NFL. But I think there's

1241
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: an acknowledgment with that with Josh himself. With the Bills coaches,

1242
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: there's only so many times you want to go back

1243
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: to that well, you know, because every time you do,

1244
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: you potentially expose him to that hit that could cause

1245
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: an injury, that could put him out for a period

1246
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: of time. So if you can do the same thing

1247
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: with a different player, with a power running back, you know,

1248
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: and not have to rely on Josh Allen on those

1249
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: third downs, on those worth downs where you've got to

1250
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: have two yards, I think they want to lean on

1251
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: that a little bit more next season and reduce the

1252
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: burden on Josh just a little bit, you know, not

1253
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: a huge amount, because you still want that special sauce

1254
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: being brought to the table when you've got to have it.

1255
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: But every now and again, just try and reduce the

1256
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: workload that he's being given or how many times you're

1257
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: relying on him physically. Then I think it's good for everybody.

1258
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a very difficult balance to try and find,

1259
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, because for a quarterback whose physicality, whose athleticism

1260
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: is a big part of his game, can't you don't

1261
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: want to take that off the table. You don't want

1262
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: to try and turn Josh Allen into Peyton Manning or

1263
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and.

1264
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 6: Say, never run the ball. We're not doing that.

1265
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: We're going to play from the pocket all the time.

1266
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: You want him to bring back to the table sometimes,

1267
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: but you also have to be aware that every time

1268
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: you do that, you're increasing that risk. So I think

1269
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: just playing with that balance and trying to move it

1270
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: a little bit away from that reliance on Josh Allen

1271
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: is all they're really doing with that.

1272
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: To the defensive side of the football, Sean mcdermot's going

1273
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: to be calling plays for the defense this year, so

1274
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: we might see some new wrinkles or maybe some new

1275
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: sets defensive sets to this team this year.

1276
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: But last year, they were a top ten, top five.

1277
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: Team and a lot of statistical categories even without some

1278
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: of their best players like Von Miller or a guy

1279
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: in Tredevius White who is trying to work his way

1280
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: back to the field. At the end of the season,

1281
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: you have him listed as the fifteenth best cornerback. Heading

1282
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 2: in to the twenty twenty three season, I think we're

1283
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: all expecting a Trey White like we knew in his

1284
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl days when he was one of.

1285
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: The best in the NFL.

1286
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: I think he's got a chip on his shoulder heading

1287
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: into the season and we've heard from coaches and players

1288
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: that this guy has been working hard to get back

1289
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 2: at it and is looking very confident heading into this year.

1290
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: So what do you think he can do? And why

1291
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: was he at number fifteen on that list?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a very tough guy to rank because obviously we

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Speaker 1: know he's kill truly elite play. He's as good as

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Speaker 1: any corner in the NFL when he's playing at his

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: very best, But those injuries have taken a toll and

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen that version of Tredevius White for a

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Speaker 1: little while. So when you have injuries or when you

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Speaker 1: have a track record like that, it's very difficult to

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Speaker 1: project forward what you're going to get. Where on the

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Speaker 1: spectrum of play that we've seen from Tradevius White, are

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Speaker 1: we going to get it in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 6: And at this.

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Speaker 1: Point, I think it's been a little bit of time

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Speaker 1: since we've seen that very best version of him, and

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Speaker 1: we're sort of erring on the side of caution and

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: waiting until we see it again.

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Speaker 6: But it's there. You know, we know that he's.

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Speaker 1: Capable of that level of play, and if he can

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: get himself one hundred percent healthy and you know, far

1310
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: enough removed from those injuries that he's back at one

1311
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent and he feels himself again, then this could

1312
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: be a huge almost in addition to that Bill's defense, right,

1313
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: sort of getting a guy back that we haven't seen

1314
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Speaker 1: for a period of time. And that's one element I

1315
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: think that people overlook about this Buffalo defense is that

1316
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: secondary was banged up pretty much all last season, really

1317
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: from the start of the year all the way through

1318
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: different players, but they never really had one hundred percent

1319
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: healthy version of that defense or in the defensive bank

1320
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: field the secondary. And if they get that this year,

1321
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: if they're just not dealing with this constant revolving door

1322
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: of injuries on the back end, Like this defense could

1323
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: be a lot better than it was a year ago

1324
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to coverage and play against the past.

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 4: One last thing I got for you, Sam is you

1326
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 4: also did an article And it's always difficult to say,

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01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 4: but some coaches really feel like there are some fan

1328
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 4: bases feel like their coaches are kind of wearing out

1329
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 4: their welcome. You start with Kevin Stefanski and Cleveland, Mike

1330
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:47,520
Speaker 4: McCarthy even in Dallas, Brandon Staley, the LA Chargers, Josh McDaniels,

1331
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles in Tampa Bay. Those are your top five

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 4: guys that people might want to take it. If they

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01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 4: don't get off to a good start or perhaps have

1334
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 4: a poor season throughout, they the team may move on.

1335
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 4: What I mean, what information do you use? Do you

1336
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 4: go to those do you ask people who know those teams?

1337
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 4: Or do you strictly go by cut and dried production,

1338
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 4: win loss history? Outlook? Has the team got? But you

1339
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: know what I mean, their history as the head coach? Well,

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 4: and what do you use for that? And give us

1341
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 4: some insights? Maybe which of these seats is the hottest?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I very specifically wanted to stay away from using the

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Speaker 1: term the hot seat when I was writing that article,

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: because I don't think some of those guys are necessarily

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: on the hot seat. It's not like, you know, a

1347
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: bad year and they're immediately going to get fired.

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 6: At the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be, you know, one of those coaches

1350
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't even make it to the following Monday. But

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01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to look at coaches that I thought were

1352
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: under pressure this season, whether it's to bounce back after

1353
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: a rough season and they are actually on the hot seat,

1354
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: or simply they need to prove something or need to

1355
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: kind of get over the hump or take the next step.

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: And there's a few coaches I think that fall into

1357
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: that category where they're doing fine. It's not like they're

1358
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: even doing anything wrong, they just haven't had the results

1359
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: go their way. And there's a couple of different teams

1360
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: I think that are in that category where because of

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01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: this crazy landscape right now where Kansas City is so

1362
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: dominant and the AFC generally is such an incredibly loaded conference,

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01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams I think that are, you know,

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: in abstract terms, they're doing well, they're winning games, they're

1365
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: having good records at the end of the year, but

1366
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: they're not getting where they want to go, where they

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: need to go because there's so many roadblocks in the

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01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: way and they just sort of need to try and

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01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: get over that next step. But doesn't necessarily mean that

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01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: you're going to fire one of those guys at the

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01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: end of the year if it doesn't unravel. But I

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: think you have that interesting dynamic this year where there's

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01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: a couple of coaches that could be legitimately on the

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: hot seat in those circumstances, even if they do a

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01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: good job. And one of those I think the most

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Speaker 1: interesting one maybe of that entire list is Bill Belichick,

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: who you're starting to hear that now. I think Tom

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01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: Kerr of NBC was saying that Belichick is very much

1379
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: john the hot seat this year, which seems crazy to

1380
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: talk about for arguably the greatest coach of all time

1381
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: who's still winning games, just not enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy.

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 2: Before we let you go here, do you want to

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Speaker 2: give us a quick teaser for the top ten list

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01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: that's going to come out tomorrow. I know you're not

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: going to reveal any names, but anything that we should

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01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,480
Speaker 2: expect or the NFL fans should expect.

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the names that you would expect

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: being on that top ten list.

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Speaker 6: Is there's no massive surprises.

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: I think there Maybe the order will surprise people a

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01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: little bit. One of the kind of defining traits I

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Speaker 1: think of this list is we're not writing guys off

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: too soon. You know, a guy like Aaron Donald. Donald's

1395
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: been the best player in the NFL for a long

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: period of time, and he got his first real injury

1397
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: last season. You know, so we missed whatever six games.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get to see a full season of Aaron Donald.

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01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be too quick to write Aaron Donald off

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01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: just yet. That guy is maybe the greatest defender to

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: ever play the game. Let's not assume that one injury

1402
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: means it's time to write his eulogy.

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: All right, Sam, thanks for the time, Thanks for jumping

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: on with us. We appreciate the insight.

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: Anytime, guys, take it easy, Thanks for having me all right.

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Speaker 2: That was Sam Monson from PFF. He's the lead NFL analyst.

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01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: He also co hosts the PFF NFL Show. You can

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: head over to PFF dot com or the pff app

1409
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: to get more from Sam Monson and other analysts.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: We'll see who's on that top ten list. I mean,

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: I know we would have loved to have seen Josh

1413
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: on that top ten list. But he makes some good

1414
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: points as to hey, there are twelve people who are

1415
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: in the top ten. Some of the turnovers have separated

1416
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: him from some of the other best quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 4: Well, he is, he is number He's the second quarterback

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01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 4: on the list. Yeah, Mahomes is.

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Speaker 2: First get thing to remember, right, So he's Holmes and

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01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 2: Josh and we can say it's we know Mahomes is

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 2: going to be in the top ten, of course.

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Speaker 4: And you know and you know, so he's ahead of

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 4: Joe Burry's ahead of you know, of Aaron Rodgers. He's

1424
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 4: ahead of Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, anybody else you can name.

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 4: So Josh is right at the top of the list

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: of quarterbacks. I think when you start picking guys out

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 4: of the NFL as being great players, certainly there's a

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 4: ton of really good players, but they don't all play quarterback.

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: It's hard to rank.

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to rank people when you're joining positions together.

1431
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 4: That makes say, really good, you can play really good

1432
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 4: at left guard, but there's not too many people who

1433
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 4: can realize how good, how much better you are than

1434
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 4: some other left guard on another team. It takes a

1435
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: lot of analysis to do that, and then those guys

1436
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 4: decide they're going to try it, and that's what they did.

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 3: Well.

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01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: Continue the conversation about the top three goals for this

1439
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: team once we get into training camp.

1440
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 3: What do you think the top three goals are for

1441
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: the Bills?

1442
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: As we headed to Saint John Fisher here soon enough,

1443
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 2: give us a call. Eighth three, five fifty, we'll be

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: right back. Join us here on One Bills Live. We're

1445
01:14:54,200 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1446
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: we're back on One Bill's Live and Aaron Rodgers has.

1447
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 3: Met with the media.

1448
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: The Jets finished up their first training camp practice today

1449
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: and we were going to say if we heard or

1450
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: saw anything noteworthy that he said.

1451
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

1452
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything really come across my Twitter timeline.

1453
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: I know you were just listening to a quote that

1454
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: he said, and I'm happy to be here.

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be around the guy.

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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: I also said something interesting. It's just in passing that

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01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 4: you feel like he feels like the window is not

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01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 4: just a one year window there so, which may tell

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01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 4: you that he's planning.

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: To be here longer than a year.

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01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 5: Sir.

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 4: Maybe he has said that to the New York media

1463
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: or made that public some other way, but to me,

1464
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 4: that says he's planning on being there for a minute

1465
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: at least two years. So good for him, and the

1466
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 4: Jets are off and running and was face it, nobody's

1467
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 4: got any losses yet in the league. And it's fun

1468
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 4: to be playing, that's for sure. And I'm sure he

1469
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 4: does feel invigorated by the atmosphere around they're in Florin Park,

1470
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 4: so yeah, power to them, man, those guys are He's

1471
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 4: got to feel great right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to watch Hard Knocks as that

1473
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,879
Speaker 2: comes out at Airs on August eighth, they'll be covering

1474
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: practices meetings. I know the Jets didn't want to be

1475
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 2: a part of Hard Knocks, but they had no choice

1476
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 2: the NFL told them, so we will definitely be frequent

1477
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: viewers of that show once it begins on August eighth.

1478
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 2: Our Twitter topic today what should be the Bill's top

1479
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: three goals for this year's training camp We've got a

1480
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: caller hanging on the line who's been waiting to answer

1481
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: that question. So let's go over to Big Slim from

1482
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: Saint Pete. You're joining us on the show. Now, what

1483
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 2: do you think of the goals for the Bills?

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 7: Y'all doing? How he's doing, Miss Maddie, How he's doing,

1485
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 7: mister Hall.

1486
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: Of Famer, We're doing good.

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01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 7: So about the three goals? The three goals, you guys

1488
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 7: pretty much covered it other than you know, super Bowl,

1489
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 7: super Bowl, super Bowl. I have kind of a silly

1490
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 7: question and I kind of wanted to answer the question

1491
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 7: from yesterday about the training camp. I feel like all

1492
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 7: eyes basically are gonna also be on tomorrow Hamlin for

1493
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 7: training camp, Like why shouldn't they be? And for my

1494
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 7: little silly question, I just kind of wanted to know

1495
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 7: what year it was when Bill's Mafia beforeward even Bill's

1496
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 7: Mafia ran out on the field and uh with the

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 7: whole field goal post. The reason I'm asking is because

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01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 7: I see you in college a lot, and I'm just

1499
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 7: curious why and if and when we win the Super Bowl,

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01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 7: we're gonna go crazy again. I'm going to hang up,

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 7: listen to y'all.

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01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 4: Thank you uh, I think I remember it was called

1503
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 4: pandemonium at that time. The last time I think they

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01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 4: did I was there. It was like eighty eight was

1505
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 4: the was when they stormed the field and they did

1506
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 4: it a couple of weeks in a row when we

1507
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 4: started winning and Bill Polling was the GM and remember

1508
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 4: they had There's a lot of stories that go on

1509
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 4: with it, but I think that was when it was

1510
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,799
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty eighteen, and that's when the fandom nual.

1511
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: Thing came, the AFC East Division title by the blocked kick,

1512
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 2: literally at the hands of the legend fred Smerlas.

1513
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Freddie blocks it. Fans go crazy, they tear

1514
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 4: the goal post down, they bring some goal posts in

1515
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 4: the next week, and so they don't want to do

1516
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 4: it again, you know. So they brought horses mounted cops

1517
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 4: out on horses and that didn't stop the fans. The

1518
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 4: fans came out anyway, and the horses were like, I'm

1519
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 4: getting out. The horses were running up the tunnel right.

1520
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 4: What really stopped him was when the cops brought out

1521
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 4: the canine dogs. When the German shepherds were standing there,

1522
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 4: nobody came on the field. So because they always everybody thought, man,

1523
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 4: that guy gives that dog the command, I'm you know,

1524
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 4: thing's gonna bite me. So when they brought horses, didn't

1525
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 4: do it. But when they brought the dogs down, people

1526
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 4: stopped coming on the field, and so that was that

1527
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 4: was the way that happened. But yeah, it was nineteen

1528
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: eighty eight was when they did it. And he's right,

1529
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 4: DeMar Hamlin is going to be a focus of attention.

1530
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see the tack he take and

1531
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 4: the reps he takes and all of that. Let's not

1532
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 4: forget he was the third safety to replace Micah Hyde.

1533
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 4: So it was him and then it was Cam Chancellor

1534
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 4: or Cam Lewis, and then Damar got on the field

1535
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 4: and that's when you know he got his injury. Now

1536
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 4: they've got an extra guy in the rotation, you know, Damar,

1537
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: it's he's in a battle for a roster spot. I

1538
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 4: would think. I don't know that for sure, but it's

1539
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 4: not an easy team to make. It's not an easy

1540
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 4: roster to make, particularly when they signed Taylor Rapp to

1541
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 4: a contract and you know he's gonna be there. So

1542
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 4: we'll see. But I'm I think a lot of people

1543
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: are going to be watching DeMar very closely.

1544
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got six safeties on the roster right now,

1545
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: obviously Mike High, Jordan Poyer, Taylor Rapp, Damar Hamlin, and

1546
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 2: the other two are Jared Maiden and Zaane Anderson. Zane

1547
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 2: Anderson was a free agency signing by the Buffalo Bills.

1548
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: He came over from the Kansas City Chiefs, played two

1549
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: seasons for them, didn't have much time on the field.

1550
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that battle

1551
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: comes together. And Sean McDermott told us one of the

1552
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: practices that we weren't at or once our time ended

1553
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 2: when we could watch the practice. He said a week later,

1554
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: a couple days later, when DeMar Hamlin was fully back,

1555
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: that hey, Damar had an interception in practice the other day.

1556
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: So this kid is not just suiting up to practice,

1557
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: he's making plays on the field as well, which I

1558
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: think is wonderful to hear and wonderful to see for

1559
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 2: his teammates and the coaching staff. I'm excited to see

1560
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: him out on the field once training camp practices begin,

1561
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: getting back into it for him as well. You know,

1562
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the time off after mandatory mini camp was

1563
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: really good for him, more time to rehab more, more

1564
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: time to get back into things, more time to get

1565
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: back into football shape, which is something that is going

1566
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: to take time for Jamar Hamlin. So yeah, get back

1567
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 2: at it, get.

1568
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 4: On the field. It'll be great to see him out there.

1569
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 4: He's he's fully cleared. It's awesome to see that. It's

1570
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 4: at this time of year every team looks great because

1571
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 4: you're not missing anybody due to injury usually or you know,

1572
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 4: like the Bills, they're missing Vaughn, but he's on his

1573
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 4: way back right, so you're kind of on the eptick there.

1574
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 4: It's it's a fun time to be around the club

1575
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 4: when it's fully formed and you don't know who the

1576
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 4: fifty three are going to be, but they're in the

1577
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 4: room somewhere, plus a lot of extra guys who are

1578
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 4: really cool dudes too, so and it's it's like I said,

1579
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: we're so excited to start training camp because of the

1580
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 4: fact that the atmosphere is just as alive as it

1581
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 4: ever gets in the NFL. You're at your access to

1582
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 4: the players is never greater than it is in training camp.

1583
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 4: You know, the interaction, the casual nature that everybody's guards down.

1584
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 4: It's not like in a big stadium where you're thirty

1585
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 4: yards away from these guys and they're they're running around

1586
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 4: on the field away from you're you know, you're ten,

1587
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 4: You're thirty feet away from them, and you can hear

1588
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 4: their conversations and hear the tone of their voice. It's

1589
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 4: it's a lot of fun. And yeah, so I'm those

1590
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 4: stories that the Big Slim just mentioned. Certainly the Bills

1591
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 4: and every other and thirty one other teams are looking

1592
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 4: to win a Super Bowl this year demorrow. Hamlin is

1593
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 4: a huge story that's going to continue into this year.

1594
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: Everything that happens to him, good or bad, is going

1595
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 4: to be taking note of around the league. And of course, yeah,

1596
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 4: the Bill's Mafia is always going to be a bit

1597
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: a thing here. Oh yeah, it's I they're gonna do that.

1598
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 4: I don't know why I've got this on my I'm

1599
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 4: going off on a tangent. I think about the Bill's

1600
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 4: Mafia and they're building the stadium across the street now,

1601
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: And for those of you who don't know, about once

1602
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 4: a week, maybe twice a week, we're getting a boom

1603
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 4: over here because the're blast.

1604
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I didn't know a boom was gonna happen,

1605
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 2: and it happened before the show yesterday, and I like

1606
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: literally grabbed the table and looked around and was like,

1607
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: is the world ending?

1608
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 4: They're blasting over there, and as per usual, you know

1609
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 4: OSHA's over there that you know, safety of They got

1610
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 4: that thing fenced off, like it's like fifty acres fenced off.

1611
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're people gonna park for these games. This

1612
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 4: stadium they're building is gigantic, so there's gonna be a

1613
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 4: lot of people. They're gonna be displaced from their parking

1614
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 4: spots who have I'm kind of wondering how it's gonna

1615
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: be on game Day this year and how it's going

1616
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 4: to disrupt the normal flow of where Bill's Mafia has

1617
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 4: been and stuff. People are gonna have bet a little

1618
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 4: bit of just trust. It's a it's gonna be a

1619
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 4: transition period for a couple of years here, so you

1620
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 4: got to kind of get your mind around it before

1621
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 4: you come in.

1622
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, those Mafiels still show up.

1623
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 4: We know that for show they'll show up, But where

1624
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 4: to go?

1625
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a good question for sure. One more

1626
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 2: answer to the tweet sheet. Before we had to break

1627
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: Larry says, figure out how to run the ball with

1628
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: running backs and not the quarterback.

1629
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 3: Find your middle linebacker, not.

1630
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: Just someone to hold the position until next year, and

1631
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: our hide and Miller, Mike Hyde and Von Miller going

1632
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: to come back close to where they were before the injuries.

1633
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: I think that last one is it's a question I

1634
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: believe with with how they've played, and Von Miller has

1635
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 2: faced injuries before, Micah has as well, and they've been

1636
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: able to come back. I know this neck injury for

1637
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: Micah is a little bit different. Von Miller's had that

1638
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 2: ACL injury before. It wasn't as bad of a tear

1639
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 2: this time around. So I think they're more than capable

1640
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 2: of coming back and we're ready to go.

1641
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 4: Remember, Micah was going to play in the championship game

1642
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 4: last year. He was itching to come back and play

1643
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 4: last season, so he's been chomping at the bit to

1644
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 4: get back. He's had an incredibly normal off season. Vaughn,

1645
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 4: on the other hand, you see you see him working

1646
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 4: out and stuff. You know he's out there working to

1647
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: get back to that point. And you think with Vaughn's

1648
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 4: personality and what we have come to know him as

1649
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 4: here in Buffalo and I'm sure the people in Denver

1650
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 4: feel the same way, and the guys in la where

1651
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 4: he was there, feel the same way as well. He's

1652
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: the kind of guy who's going to come back faster,

1653
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 4: not slower, you know. And when he does come back,

1654
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 4: you got to think he's going to add some juice

1655
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 4: to whatever he does, you know, the pass, rush, the defense,

1656
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 4: the atmosphere in the room, everything, that's just kind of

1657
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 4: the way I would envision it because of who he

1658
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 4: has been to this point. So Hyde and Miller hides

1659
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 4: already back to me he's been back. Vaughn is going

1660
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 4: to start contributing little by little off the field, in

1661
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 4: between the lines before he's actually on the field as well.

1662
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 4: So it's going to be fun to see.

1663
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 2: And I think one thing that you can spin as

1664
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: a positive, Yes, these are older players, and yes, the

1665
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: question you know for Micah Hyde is how many years

1666
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: does he have left in the tank. But I think

1667
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: also a positive thing about these two players coming back

1668
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: from injury is at this point in your career, you

1669
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: know your body better than anybody else. The trainers that

1670
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: you've been working with for years know your body really

1671
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 2: well as well, and you know exactly what you need

1672
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 2: to do to be in football playing shape. The older

1673
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: guys on the roster, those are the guys who know

1674
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 2: how to get it done. They're not learning about football

1675
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 2: shape anymore. That is what they are experts at because

1676
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 2: they have to do it time and time again, and

1677
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: they've had to rehab from injuries before. So I think

1678
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: these guys are going to be back and ready to go.

1679
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 2: Micah Hyde, for sure, we'll see about von Miller next week.

1680
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: We're going to get news about that for sure when

1681
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: we hear from Sean McDermott and Brandon be And I

1682
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: would assume the first week, first couple of days of camp,

1683
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: we'll can update on von Miller. All right, break time

1684
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: for us. When we come back, we will close out

1685
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: the show here on One Bill's Live or presented by

1686
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Clyda Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All Right, we're back

1687
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live. Some great answers from our

1688
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: Twitter question today. What should be the Bills top three

1689
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: goals for this year's training camp. Other ones that we

1690
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: haven't covered, Kayer Elan winning the cornerback to job, turn

1691
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: off the salary cap only for the Bills. I wish

1692
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: that could happen. Somebody said, finess Zach Martin from Dallas.

1693
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: He's an offensive lineman who is not happy with what

1694
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: he's getting paid by the Dallas Cowboys. We'll see what

1695
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: happens with that. Somebody said, sign Dalvin James Cook. I

1696
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: don't know if that's gonna happen.

1697
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably well. I mean, he's out there, no question,

1698
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 4: Zach Martin is unhappy in Dallas. I don't think he's

1699
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 4: going anywhere. And nobody's turning the salary cap off for

1700
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 4: the Bills, so I yeah, fun stuff to think about

1701
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 4: a training camp, but the bills, I don't know, a

1702
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: lot of people might have missed this. We talked about it.

1703
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 4: The Bills are actually second in the NFL and money

1704
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: actually spent this year cash out of pocket. So that'll

1705
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: come you know, they'll come back, you know, reel it

1706
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 4: in next year. But by the same token, they got

1707
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 4: a lot of guys that are coming off the roster

1708
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 4: this next year, so they're going to have some cap

1709
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 4: space because of all the one year deals that they've

1710
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: got coming off the books. Now they're going to you know,

1711
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 4: have to sign some guys, but you know, they're they're

1712
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 4: making it go and they're doing it the way they

1713
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 4: do it Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, and it's worked

1714
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 4: really well and it looks like they're going to be

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01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 4: able to continue to do that with the way they

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01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 4: structure contracts. So they're doing really well. And I the

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01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 4: salary cap has not been an issue yet. Now may

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01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: in the future, but not now. I don't think it'll

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01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 4: be a big issue next year.

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Speaker 3: It's only gonna continue to go up.

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Speaker 2: Another one was figuring out how to integrate more yak

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01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 2: into this offense. I think we could all agree that

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: with this one, we want to see more yards, yards

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01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: after catch, yards after contact, all of that for this offense.

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Speaker 2: I think, Hey, this team can do it. They can

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 2: learn from mistakes last year, they can grow from last year.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the show, we're gonna have Caleb Ford on

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01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 2: with us. He had a wish to be a part

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01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills for a day. He was able

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Speaker 2: to do so, so we're excited to talk to him

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at two o'clock. Join us from one to three