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Speaker 3: So my Guy Chris Chris Christian Jones aka the Truth
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four on Instagram. SO fifteen are you fifteen
Speaker 3: years old, thirteen thirteen, So he's he's thirteen. He's he's
Speaker 3: thirteen years old. He's a day trader, he's an investor,
Speaker 3: he's a speaker, he's an author, he does options. Just
Speaker 3: a dynamic, a dynamic dude. So Ian reached out to
Speaker 3: us a few days ago and was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I think he'd be a great guest for market.
Speaker 4: Mondays and be like, sure, why not? So we want to.
Speaker 4: We want to.
Speaker 3: We want to highlight First of all, we want to
Speaker 3: highlight you for a couple of different reasons. It's important
Speaker 3: to support and encourage our entrepreneurs and our investors, like
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to to Mikey, who's the number
Speaker 3: one fifteen year old basketball player in the country. But
Speaker 3: to me, you're just as important as somebody like that,
Speaker 3: or Lebron James when he was out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can impact thousands of kids.
Speaker 5: Mikey can help his family, but you can help the
Speaker 5: world and generations.
Speaker 3: YEA, yeah, sure, So we want to we want to
Speaker 3: highlight you and someelebrate you. There's no difference between you
Speaker 3: and Lebron James when he was thirteen, number one playing
Speaker 3: in the country. I look at you like the number
Speaker 3: one prospect.
Speaker 2: This is here Sports Illustrate, right.
Speaker 3: So first and first and foremost, we want to just
Speaker 3: you know, celebrate you. But then also we want to
Speaker 3: we want to get some game from you. I want
Speaker 3: to get some game from you too, because I know
Speaker 3: that you you know, you're a very astute trader and investors.
Speaker 3: So first and foremost, thank you. Thank you for joining
Speaker 3: our platform. We appreciate it.
Speaker 6: I appreciate being here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So I'll ask the first question. Then everybody can just
Speaker 3: feel for you and Troy, So you you all right?
Speaker 3: You you day trade options only? Or is stocks or yeah?
Speaker 6: I do mostly options.
Speaker 7: I do invest in stocks more so like for long term,
Speaker 7: like most people, I do mostly options.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I'm glad because people have been asking for options, and
Speaker 3: we're going to do an options show next week. We're
Speaker 3: we're working on something special, but this would be a
Speaker 3: good intro for that. So can you I was gonna
Speaker 3: explain it, but I'd rather you can you just explain
Speaker 3: for that? You know, most people aren't too familiar with options.
Speaker 3: Can you just explain, like what options are as they
Speaker 3: attained to like just investing in regular stocks.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 7: So as far as the main key differences between stocks
Speaker 7: and options are this. So as far as stocks, we
Speaker 7: know you actually own a share in the company, you
Speaker 7: actually will own stock in the company, and y'a like
Speaker 7: I said, you own sharing it. And the thing is
Speaker 7: with stock, you can hold them well forever and you
Speaker 7: can pretty much pass them down. And the main difference
Speaker 7: between those and options is what options. You can't well
Speaker 7: hold it and you don't actually own the stock. You
Speaker 7: merely own the option in order to buy the stock.
Speaker 7: And when we're owning options, we have these things called contracts. Now,
Speaker 7: one contract is equal to one hundred shares of stock.
Speaker 7: And also with this options as well, it's temporary online
Speaker 7: stocks options are temporary. Now know the max amount you
Speaker 7: can hold an option that I think about two years
Speaker 7: because there are different types of trading, so you can
Speaker 7: hold options for a long time. You can't do long
Speaker 7: term trading with options. I've actually done that personally myself
Speaker 7: just recently today every where I did a long term
Speaker 7: contract with Tesla.
Speaker 8: And I go about that.
Speaker 2: I saw you post that, man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, me and my mom we saw Tesla and we
Speaker 7: got in about three hundred and then we made seventy
Speaker 7: eight thousand dollars off that trade because Tesla it went
Speaker 7: crazy today, but like, I don't know why it fell off,
Speaker 7: but luckily we was able to get out before it
Speaker 7: dipped down.
Speaker 4: So don't let that go.
Speaker 2: Yeah please, that was really modest.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: That's a yearly salary, all right.
Speaker 8: So yeah, real quick, one more time?
Speaker 6: Hold are you thirteen?
Speaker 8: So I first met my guy when we was speaking
Speaker 8: with ET.
Speaker 9: Shout out to Marquell, because Marquell was solid enough to
Speaker 9: put me on the platform before anyone knew me, just
Speaker 9: like y'all before you know, se y'all help me pop.
Speaker 9: So I met him there and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 9: this kid knows his stuff and he's and I didn't
Speaker 9: know any of this when I was a kid, right,
Speaker 9: So run that number again past what you hit. I
Speaker 9: just want the people to hear.
Speaker 6: Seventy eight dollars.
Speaker 9: So the reason why I wanted him on is to show,
Speaker 9: regardless of age, this is possible. We're the only culture
Speaker 9: that this has been hidden from. He's young, right, so
Speaker 9: if he can do it, you can do it too.
Speaker 9: But no, I I'm gonna let you rock. I just
Speaker 9: wanted to jump in and let that because like it
Speaker 9: brings me so much joy because you've been doing this
Speaker 9: is what you was a what eight and now you
Speaker 9: was speaking at with eight or nine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So a brief well timeline is basically I actually
Speaker 7: ended up writing my first book called The Win.
Speaker 6: Within at eight years old.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 7: It's based off my story where I was getting bullied
Speaker 7: by my teammates on the football field. It's about faith
Speaker 7: family in football. And then this is at the time
Speaker 7: we was living in Florida. So from there we actually
Speaker 7: ended up leaving the country and going to Germany. And
Speaker 7: while we were in Germany, that's where I ended up
Speaker 7: wanting to say developing, but finding about or what investing is,
Speaker 7: and finding about the stop or finding out about the
Speaker 7: stock market, because I don't know if you guys remember,
Speaker 7: there was a story about I think twenty thirteen, about
Speaker 7: a fourteen year old who had made fifty.
Speaker 6: Thousand dollars of buying Nike stock.
Speaker 7: So, like anybody, I wanted to see how we did it,
Speaker 7: and I began asking my mom she could teach me
Speaker 7: how to invest in the stock market because I'm trying
Speaker 7: to make that kind of money.
Speaker 6: At the time, I was around nine years.
Speaker 7: Old, so she didn't really take me seriously because she
Speaker 7: thought I was just playing around just saying that, because well,
Speaker 7: people changed their minds all the time. So I ended
Speaker 7: up doing my own research and came back to her
Speaker 7: and told her I wanted to open up my brokerage
Speaker 7: account and again your broketus's accounts that coount used in
Speaker 7: order to invest in. And when she heard that, then
Speaker 7: she saw that was actually passionate and really wanted to
Speaker 7: learn this skill. And at the time she did know
Speaker 7: a little bit about investing, but she really didn't get
Speaker 7: too deep into it herself. So she actually went out
Speaker 7: and got her course, and that course was twenty five
Speaker 7: thousand dollars because she knows not only the value of
Speaker 7: investing in the stock market, but investing into yourself and
Speaker 7: investing in your growth. So she went out and got
Speaker 7: the course, and then initially we were taking it together,
Speaker 7: but eight nine years old, no idea.
Speaker 6: What that meant.
Speaker 7: So she ended up learning from the course, and then
Speaker 7: she came back and topped me. So I guess the
Speaker 7: whole timeline would be I've been investing for four years
Speaker 7: and I've been trading for three.
Speaker 8: I love this.
Speaker 9: Man, So that includings to your mom too, because your
Speaker 9: mom is like with you running the business.
Speaker 8: So this i'mber sawing to let you rock.
Speaker 9: But parents are also like you see the joy in
Speaker 9: his face from learning this, and like the joys in
Speaker 9: our face, Like all of our kids should know this,
Speaker 9: So do it together. And if your kids have an
Speaker 9: interest even in gaming, let them do that because they
Speaker 9: are more avenues now than ever to make money from
Speaker 9: a whole bunch of industries that were not available to us.
Speaker 3: Shot, go ahead, Yeah, so all right, so let's talk
Speaker 3: about this this Tesla call that you had. So I'll
Speaker 3: just try to give my my I was gonna say,
Speaker 3: like thirteen year old explanation, but nah, I gotta give
Speaker 3: my four year old explanation for what options are correct
Speaker 3: me if I'm I just want everybody, I just want
Speaker 3: everybody just to have an understanding. So like when you
Speaker 3: buy stock, Let's say you want to buy Apple stock
Speaker 3: right now, it's like at three eighty two, so we
Speaker 3: know you just if you have three hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: two dollars, you can buy one share right and then
Speaker 3: you know if you buy two shares and it's two
Speaker 3: times three eighty two. Everybody, I think that pretty much
Speaker 3: understands that you have to be your own Apple. You
Speaker 3: can have it for as long as you want, whenever
Speaker 3: you sell it. If you sell it at you know,
Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars, then you know you've almost you like
Speaker 3: double your money pretty much, right, So that's easy to understand.
Speaker 3: So with the options, it's pretty much like you're buying
Speaker 3: something in the future. So it's like, Okay, I'm buying Apple.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, I'm buying Apple for five hundred dollars in
Speaker 3: January of twenty twenty two, right, And then you have
Speaker 3: an ask and the bid price.
Speaker 4: So the strike price, the strike price is five hundred dollars.
Speaker 9: That's like that's the price you want to the future,
Speaker 9: like the exit yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So and then the acts. So the ask is like
Speaker 3: what you're actually buying those contracts for. So the ass
Speaker 3: could be let's say, you know, fifty dollars hypothetically, right,
Speaker 3: So the ask is a lot lower than the actual
Speaker 3: price of the actual Well.
Speaker 2: So it gets tricky, right, so this calls and puts
Speaker 2: we got to.
Speaker 3: Well, we say called so the ask, the ask is
Speaker 3: like fifty dollars, right, so you're buying one hundred because
Speaker 3: you got to buy one hundred contracts one hundred.
Speaker 8: Let's you share it one contract.
Speaker 2: Let's just five dollars.
Speaker 3: That'll make it easier, all right, So now you buy,
Speaker 3: you buy it at fifty. So now, if let's say
Speaker 3: the price of apple stock goes from three eighty two
Speaker 3: to four hundred, right, that's an eighteen dollars increase. Now,
Speaker 3: if you have the regular stock, then that would have
Speaker 3: been whatever percentage of eighteen dollars going up. But now
Speaker 3: if you own the options contract and it's fifty dollars,
Speaker 3: theoretically that fifty dollars could go to one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: So now you actually doubled your money. This is why
Speaker 3: options are so appealing to people. And once you fully
Speaker 3: understand it, it's like it's like stocks on steroids because
Speaker 3: it's stuff to go back to.
Speaker 2: Stop now it's.
Speaker 3: Really difficult because it's like you could, but it's a
Speaker 3: lot more volatile, so it can go up a lot fast.
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Speaker 3: Dealer, but it can also go down a lot faster
Speaker 3: as well because you're not. You don't really care about
Speaker 3: the price of the stock. You're more concerned about the
Speaker 3: bid and the ass as did I did I do
Speaker 3: a good job explaining that Christian?
Speaker 6: You did a decent job.
Speaker 8: I might cut that. That's funny, all right?
Speaker 4: So can you can you?
Speaker 2: Can you feel in?
Speaker 4: Can you fill in what I left out?
Speaker 2: Are you smarter than the seventh grader?
Speaker 7: So as far as the strike price, you were well
Speaker 7: kind of right at that. So the strike price you do,
Speaker 7: that's the price you're actually buying it at. So let's
Speaker 7: say I'm buying I'm gonna use it yours. So let's
Speaker 7: say I'm buying Apple if they were at three eighty two.
Speaker 7: So the thing is about options. You have an option chain,
Speaker 7: and when you're looking at the option chain, you have
Speaker 7: in the money and out the money. So let's say
Speaker 7: I'm going to go out the money. Normally, when I
Speaker 7: go out the money, that's means more. And so I'm
Speaker 7: gonna do a swing trade. A swing trade is a
Speaker 7: more long term trade and investment. Like I said, you
Speaker 7: can go out to a maximum about two years. So
Speaker 7: let's say I'm doing a swing trade and Apple's current
Speaker 7: stock price or yeah, stock price is at three eighty two,
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna put my strip price at let's say
Speaker 7: four hundred, so and I'm doing a call, so I
Speaker 7: know my not Microsoft Apple, was gonna hit at least
Speaker 7: four hundred dollars. Because I will say this about stripe
Speaker 7: prices as well, they don't necessarily have to hit your
Speaker 7: price in order for you to make money. They just
Speaker 7: have to go in general direction for you to be
Speaker 7: able to make money. That's how you make money off
Speaker 7: swite swing trades, and that is one of the ways
Speaker 7: I actually made money, not only off that Tesla but
Speaker 7: also whether it did hit my strike price. But I
Speaker 7: did one off Microsoft hit that's a better example. So
Speaker 7: I remember Microsoft was about at one thirty five at
Speaker 7: the time, that was their stock price, and I put
Speaker 7: my stripe price this was a swing trade, and I
Speaker 7: put it at one ninety five, and I put it
Speaker 7: about three cents a month saddle, so I put it
Speaker 7: three system month out and I put my strip price
Speaker 7: at one ninety five. And even though Microsoft never actually
Speaker 7: hit that stripe as one until later after I sold
Speaker 7: the contract, it was still doing in that direction, so
Speaker 7: therefore I was making money.
Speaker 2: The trend is your friend.
Speaker 5: So the thing as long as it was going toward
Speaker 5: that one, you're gonna make some money.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for the further explanation. So all right,
Speaker 3: can you talk about this the Tesla trade that you
Speaker 3: made today? Can you kind of just walk us through that.
Speaker 3: What's your what's your Instagram? Because a lot of people
Speaker 3: on on YouTube? Can you just type into instagrament I
Speaker 3: think it's the truth at twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Four, right, yeah, the truth twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: And Mark Mark said he likes you. We'll let you
Speaker 4: know who Mark is.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark is a Mark is a fan of you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, can you walk us through your your Tesla
Speaker 3: trade that you made today?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 7: So that Tesla trade was actually also another swing trade
Speaker 7: that I did back in March when Tesla was at
Speaker 7: that three hundred dollars Mark Mark and I remember, and
Speaker 7: I remember I was telling my clients about it, and
Speaker 7: I I didn't necessarily tell them.
Speaker 6: I was telling them what I was gonna do and
Speaker 6: that might as well copy.
Speaker 7: So I got in at about three hundred dollars, and
Speaker 7: I remember after that I decided to just I was
Speaker 7: gonna just sell it. After Tesla started move up in
Speaker 7: that upper direction, but we decided not to so kind
Speaker 7: of just left it alone, and little did we know,
Speaker 7: a couple of months later it hit almost one hundred
Speaker 7: thousand dollars. Because Tesla, as you know, has one of
Speaker 7: those well, Tesla is like a wildcard to me, like
Speaker 7: it's one of those companies. Market be up one day,
Speaker 7: Tesla's going down one hundred dollars, market be down another day,
Speaker 7: Tesla's moving up two hundred dollars, fall back, move up
Speaker 7: another one hundred dollars, Like Tesla is a wildcard. And
Speaker 7: knowing this, but that Tesla is a wildcard, but it
Speaker 7: is a very consistent company. So knowing this, we decided
Speaker 7: to do a swing trade on this and like I said,
Speaker 7: a little month, well a couple of months later, here
Speaker 7: we are with the seventy eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of the whole process on how that worked.
Speaker 4: How much money did you put in?
Speaker 9: Originally two thousand, two thousand, we got a question, how
Speaker 9: do you choose your strike price? And you're ask that
Speaker 9: you're looking to get in. I saw that comment in
Speaker 9: YouTube fast how.
Speaker 6: Do I choose my strike price? And my ass correct?
Speaker 8: Ye?
Speaker 7: All right, So as far as how I choose my
Speaker 7: stripe price. That really depends I'm trading for that day.
Speaker 6: Because you have.
Speaker 7: Four different trading styles you have, and I use well
Speaker 7: pretty much all four. So you have the first training style,
Speaker 7: which is called scalping. So scalping is more so well
Speaker 7: like a scalp surgeon pinpoint movements and short little movements.
Speaker 6: And those are like in and out. You you gotta
Speaker 6: be really quick.
Speaker 7: You do have to have patience as well with scalping,
Speaker 7: So scalping is born, like I said, pinpoint movements, So
Speaker 7: it depends if I'm doing scalping, I might go in
Speaker 7: the money. However, you also have day trading, which is
Speaker 7: similar but not the same as scalping. Day trading you can,
Speaker 7: instead of those pinpoint movements where you're making like four
Speaker 7: hundred dollars in two minutes, trading might make five thousand
Speaker 7: dollars in about not even ten to twenty, but like
Speaker 7: maybe an hour or two. So day trading, while you
Speaker 7: might take a little longer, you don't necessarily hold any
Speaker 7: positions at the end of the day, and then you
Speaker 7: have position in swing trading. So swing trading is what
Speaker 7: I did with the Tesla and the Microsoft and one
Speaker 7: of my favorite strategies to use because it's basically passive income.
Speaker 7: It is something I do teach you in my course
Speaker 7: because I gus I said it's passive income. I remember
Speaker 7: my mom she said swing trading here is actually her
Speaker 7: favorite strategy as well, because it allows you to not
Speaker 7: only free up your time, but also to make passive
Speaker 7: income and make money on a consistent basis without having
Speaker 7: to really put in much work, which is the beauty
Speaker 7: of the stock market. And then you have position trade,
Speaker 7: which goes back to the well maximum matter two years,
Speaker 7: where you can pretty much do it like a stock
Speaker 7: can just hold it for a long amount of time
Speaker 7: and just allow it.
Speaker 6: To continuously making money. But you have to be careful
Speaker 6: on what companies you choose because you.
Speaker 7: Will have out those companies that might dip during a
Speaker 7: certain point because of whatever reason. So you do have
Speaker 7: to pay attention to the news and you do have
Speaker 7: to watch your positions as well. Like I said, you
Speaker 7: got to pay attention, like this is not something you
Speaker 7: can just what may one trade and just leave it
Speaker 7: for forever.
Speaker 9: Can you walk us through your risk to reward ratio?
Speaker 9: So are you risking ten percent to make one hundred
Speaker 9: or what race you are are you using when you're
Speaker 9: setting up your swing trades.
Speaker 6: So when I'm setting up on my swing trades, I typically.
Speaker 7: Won't like I don't like to lose more than about
Speaker 7: twenty five percent.
Speaker 6: However I will lose.
Speaker 7: I will be willing to risk twenty five percent if
Speaker 7: I can make at least fifty percent.
Speaker 5: Okay, Christian, I got a quick question. So are you
Speaker 5: making puts as well? What's your strategy on that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, use puts as well. I don't use them as much,
Speaker 7: but I do use them. And I would say an
Speaker 7: example of put to a big what was it? The
Speaker 7: company six Flags? Y'all know that's a yeah, the amusement
Speaker 7: part actually on publicly. So I remember one thing I
Speaker 7: did with six Flags. I remember the first year, I
Speaker 7: want to say, discovered them.
Speaker 6: I saw them.
Speaker 7: This was also during the summer, and six Flags at
Speaker 7: the time, this was about two years ago.
Speaker 6: Six Flags was.
Speaker 7: Going up because I believe they came out with a
Speaker 7: new Batman ride or something, and everybody what was doing
Speaker 7: at six Flags, So they jumped about twenty dollars.
Speaker 6: So I made money off of calls.
Speaker 7: And then, of course, since since Flags is a seasonal company.
Speaker 7: They began slowly dropping as the months went on August, September, October.
Speaker 7: So knowing this and knowing this from the first year
Speaker 7: because I didn't figure out that pattern before, but knowing
Speaker 7: this next year in twenty nineteen, I did see this
Speaker 7: pattern and saw that six Flags who was gonna have
Speaker 7: that well great summer again and.
Speaker 6: Then they were going to slowly drip down.
Speaker 7: So I decided to do a swing tray put on
Speaker 7: it and make some money that way.
Speaker 3: So and put foot well YouTube YouTube if you could
Speaker 3: take a minute and like this video was twenty three
Speaker 3: hundred people. I think that's a record for us. But
Speaker 3: if you don't, if you don't appreciate it, if you
Speaker 3: don't like this video, it says a lot about your
Speaker 3: character already, this one. Yeah, you gotta come on, you
Speaker 3: gotta like it. You got That's the least you can
Speaker 3: do is like it. So let me ask you, all right,
Speaker 3: So put for anybody that's that's when you're you're saying
Speaker 3: that the stock is going to go down, where calls
Speaker 3: are saying that the stock is going to go up.
Speaker 3: So if your put strategy more short term like long term,
Speaker 3: like do you have a long term call strategy and
Speaker 3: a short term put strategy, or how do you play
Speaker 3: your puts versus calls? And and do you ever put
Speaker 3: a call and a put on the same position, because
Speaker 3: some people do that to hedge, like they'll put a
Speaker 3: call on Apple, but then they'll take twenty five percent
Speaker 3: and put a put on it also, so if they'll
Speaker 3: make money either way, the market decides to go.
Speaker 7: So as far as how I do my calls and puts,
Speaker 7: I more so do my well, I do do kind
Speaker 7: of both ways, Like as far as long term, I
Speaker 7: might do calls occasionally, but for the most part, I
Speaker 7: use well puts for the long term, why not even
Speaker 7: long term, but more so midterm on those companies that
Speaker 7: I know sucked.
Speaker 6: On our trash and I'm getting at a good entry point.
Speaker 7: And then I use calls more so consistently and more
Speaker 7: so yeah for short term, especially on with scoupling the
Speaker 7: day journey.
Speaker 2: Christian really quick.
Speaker 5: So are you making options on individual stocks.
Speaker 2: Or do you do ETFs as well?
Speaker 6: I do individual stocks.
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