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Speaker 1: What's up everybody.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday to all of you out there listening. Oh

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Speaker 2: it was a nasty, nasty day as the Texans went

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Speaker 2: into the bubble again for Ota, what was number three,

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Speaker 2: but number two for the media, number three for us

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Speaker 2: because we've seen all of them this week, which was

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Speaker 2: kind of nice. Appreciate you being here with us, John Harris,

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermure, the Voice of the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Mark, Good evening. Good evening, Johnny. Start with.

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Speaker 2: Your observations of OTAs Ota number three.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you see some things from the offense

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Speaker 3: that are good. You see some places on the defense

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Speaker 3: that are good. It's the old what we say in

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Speaker 3: training camp, the Texans versus the Texans. Yeah, and David

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Speaker 3: Kelly said it, well, I'm rooting for the Texans something

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Speaker 3: like that. And I love him because he did simplify things.

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Speaker 3: He boiled it down with the simplest forms sometimes, and

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Speaker 3: you need to do that in these situations because you're

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Speaker 3: rooting for both sides of the ball. But I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you some things I saw today, all right. I saw

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Speaker 3: beautiful deep ball by Davis Mills. Oh yeah, that was nice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was a nice little connection that was gorgeous,

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Speaker 2: gorgeous deep ball?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a touchdown, but it looked like

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Speaker 3: they kind of marked it at the one no official

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Speaker 3: signal touchdown, but it was close enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was Uh.

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Speaker 2: I think it was supposed to be like a situational period. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was supposed to be get into field goal range.

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Speaker 2: Well they got into the range.

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Speaker 3: They got a chip shot range or touchdown, so that

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Speaker 3: would do the job.

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Speaker 2: So I wrote last night, and I believe it's up.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's up at Houston Texas dot com. I

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Speaker 2: didn't double check, but I was writing it last night late,

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Speaker 2: and so I I came up with. I went through

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Speaker 2: each position and quarterback, running back, wider, sheet tight in

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Speaker 2: O line, D line, linebacker, cornerback, safety.

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Speaker 1: I didn't split up the D line. I probably should have,

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Speaker 1: but basically, I was like, here's a.

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Speaker 2: Guy that I'm watching and I have eyes on during

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Speaker 2: OTA's that I am intrigued about, at each position, at

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Speaker 2: each position group, this position group. Wooh, can I ask

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Speaker 2: you questions about this wide receiver? Was Jellen Knowle You

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Speaker 2: just mentioned it was Wayne? It was Jared Wayne because

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Speaker 2: Wayne it was Jared wayn still here he's been here.

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 2: He's big, and he's athletic and Mark I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: when you you bring up Jared Wayne's name around people

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Speaker 2: in ops, in football ops, they look at you like, hey,

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Speaker 2: don't what's your comment?

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about this guy.

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Speaker 2: Do not forget about Jared Wayne six three two ten big.

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Speaker 1: I mean think about that.

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Speaker 2: Think of the basketball team that the receivers can put

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean you could put out.

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Speaker 2: Either Noel Kirk at point guard and then four six

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Speaker 2: four guys six three six four guys you could put

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Speaker 3: I'll borrow leshe from the tight ends also and post

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Speaker 1: He's not a he's not a small guy.

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Speaker 2: Nope, Luke lash and look who is my tight end

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Speaker 2: that I mentioned in my article, Lucas.

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Speaker 1: I just I.

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Speaker 2: You know a lot of people ask me, you know,

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Speaker 2: like what are you watching? What are you looking at?

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm looking at how and what the reaction is

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Speaker 2: to when guys make plays and who makes the plays,

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Speaker 2: and how coaching staff reacts and how you know, other

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Speaker 2: people you know in football ops react when a guy

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Speaker 3: Luc Lach has made a lot of plays. Yep, he's

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Speaker 3: made a lot of plays. And he's helped because Bred

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Speaker 3: and Jordan's not out there. Yes, and neither is Dalton

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Speaker 1: Right, both of them coming back from and rehabing injuries.

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Speaker 1: That lifts everybody up to get more reps, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And Luke Lach has gotten plenty of reps. And I

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Speaker 2: felt like he's done a really nice job. So you

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Speaker 2: guys that I went ahead and said that I have

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Speaker 2: my eyes on. Now you're gonna if you're listening out

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Speaker 2: there and you're waiting for you know, Joe Mixon or

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Speaker 2: Nico Collins or Jalen Petrie. No, okay, And by the way,

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Speaker 2: play today and seven on seven. I mean, here's a

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Speaker 2: guy that just gave a ton of money to coming

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Speaker 2: off an injury that cost him the last what four

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Speaker 2: laying out on a deep ball in the third day,

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Speaker 2: Ota s knocked the ball away. Hashtag culture, So quarterback

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Speaker 2: was Keaton Slovas, and part of it was don't really

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Speaker 2: know about Graham Mertz and when he'll be ready truly

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Speaker 2: to go off the ACL. We've seen Davis plenty and

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Speaker 2: obviously we know CJ CJ so, but we don't really

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Speaker 2: so we didn't get a chance to see him in preseason.

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Speaker 1: Games, didn't see him in camp, We didn't.

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Speaker 2: Really get to see him in competitive situations for the

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Speaker 2: most part.

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Speaker 1: Once they got to.

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Speaker 2: The season and was game plan and here we go

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Speaker 2: and didn't really get a chance to see him. So

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Speaker 2: I was curious about that. So running back Juar Jordan, Wait, wait,

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Speaker 2: hanging back to slow back to Slovs.

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Speaker 1: He makes some throws now, Oh no, he could throw it.

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Speaker 1: Oh he could throw it.

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Speaker 2: The football. He can throw that. Dude was more I

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Speaker 2: wanted to throw football. You can see it. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how it's all gonna transpire, but I've

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Speaker 3: been around here long enough to tell you that sometimes

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Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I want to see it happen ever. Again, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you need all the depth you can get in

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Speaker 3: every position, especially that one, yep, and they have four

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Speaker 3: because Mertz is here, but he's not doing anything yet

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Speaker 3: with the whole team. We saw him throwing rookie camp.

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Speaker 3: That was good, that was encouraging on air whatever. But

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Speaker 3: I like Slovas. I like the flight of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I like some of the throws I've seen. He had

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Speaker 3: a nice deep ball today to who was it, No, No,

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Speaker 3: it was somebody else. He had another one late that

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Speaker 3: was a pretty good one. I feel one to Nol Nol.

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Speaker 3: The other day he had a good one to him.

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Speaker 3: I thought he had one to Jackson today. It'll come

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Speaker 3: to me. But anyway, I've seen some things.

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Speaker 2: Throwing the ball and I and again, we're gonna see

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Speaker 2: ones in camp, seven on seven in camp. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: see the joy practices. We're gonna get to see Keaton throw.

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Speaker 2: The third and fourth quarter preseason game, my running back

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Speaker 2: Peers not able to participate right now, and so everybody's

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Speaker 2: kind of, as you said, stepped up in the order,

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Speaker 2: and so Juar's got an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And I just you watch him.

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Speaker 2: He makes he made a guy missing just an open

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Speaker 1: I think it may have been Kamari, I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA, Like it was like really impressive,

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Speaker 2: and I just I feel like just getting more reps

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Speaker 1: You know, Juar.

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Speaker 2: I think every you know, Nick talks about this with

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Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, this guy can do these things. This

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Speaker 2: is how he's gonna help us this year. We really

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Speaker 2: good on third down. He's gonna be great on special teams,

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Speaker 2: has and contribute? Well, he's got shake, he could slip

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Speaker 2: I I comped him to when he's a Louisville And

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Speaker 2: that's what he said. He said he grew up watching

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Speaker 2: Shady McCoy and he wanted to be like Shady McCoy.

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Speaker 2: He's got some of that. He's not shady McCoy don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, but he's got stylistically kind of that

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Speaker 1: And looks more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: So Jeuar Jordan was on my running back rober Sters,

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Speaker 2: Jared Wayne tight End was Luke Lasche offensive lineman, offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So you had to pick one guy you were watching.

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Speaker 2: One and you know it's funny because of its line.

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Speaker 2: Was the easiest of the whole group to pick a

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Speaker 2: guy outree. Jalen Thomas, Jalen Thomas. I love this because

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Speaker 2: I was standing with Robert Hensley for a while today

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was just watching with Robert and you

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Speaker 1: It's it's not Zach Thomas, who you know.

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Speaker 3: Some listeners are listening right now thinking, well, I'm not

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Speaker 3: even and used to Zach Thomas yet I'm still thinking

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Speaker 1: No, this guy's an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: He's been in the building here and he's getting some

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Speaker 3: looks here with twos and threes and who knows what happens, right,

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Speaker 3: But Jalen Thomas, go ahead, this is really this is

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Speaker 3: below the radar. It is subterranean in some cases. But

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Speaker 3: he's seeing some time at guard.

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Speaker 1: What are you seeing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thick strong, stout And Drew and I are actually

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Speaker 2: and he's an SMU. He's an SMU Mustang And Drew

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Speaker 2: was like, tell me about this Jalen Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, he's from your own money.

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Speaker 2: No, I get that, And I said, basically, the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing for Jayleen he's you gotta stay healthy. He'll show

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Speaker 2: up for a day and you look at him and go, man,

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Speaker 2: it look good and then he's hurt and not there.

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Speaker 2: And I mean that's a story for a lot of guys,

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Speaker 2: a lot of big separator. Unfortunately, on the D line

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Speaker 2: it was Dylan Horton. I think we forget about Dylan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's talking with uh. I was talking with Matt Burke

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Speaker 2: before practice and we were just kind of talking about,

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Speaker 2: probably all going to address on Sunday that are not

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Speaker 2: here with the Texans.

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Speaker 1: They're not practicing right now. Wow, that's amazing. But then Barnett,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to go through them all.

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Speaker 2: But Darryl Taylor, Yale interior guys, he's working out a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys are working at and we've seen

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Speaker 2: all We've seen every single one of them at some

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Speaker 2: point during the during the off season, even the program.

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Speaker 2: But Dylan Horn's a guy that two years ago is

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Speaker 2: a rookie, his head spinning last year, he's still fighting cancer.

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Speaker 2: Right now he's beaten cancer. Now he's comfortable in the

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Speaker 1: He looks bigger, looks, you know, stronger.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's had a full workout campaign throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: My safety was Jalen Reed, the rookie out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: So one guy you want to talk about standard setter,

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Speaker 2: You've got to take about a practice. He's too physical,

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Speaker 3: Will He's you know a lot of these guys we

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Speaker 3: We're trying to get stuff done. I mean I have

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Speaker 1: So that's fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: in Texans All Access. Happy Friday, everybody, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: another initiative, Texans All Access. On a wonderful evening wherever

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Speaker 2: why it's a wonderful evening. Appreciate you being here. I'm

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Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst side a lot of reporter. You

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Speaker 2: from my man Drew Doherty. First ota in the books

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Speaker 2: when we recorded, I think we had two at that point.

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Speaker 4: Let's go OTAs dude. They're in full effect now. The

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Speaker 2: and he looked really good. Now he was on our sideline,

439
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 2: so I could see him probably a little bit more.

440
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: They try and throw it sting once that didn't go well.

441
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 4: So I mean, right right there, how many fewer times

442
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 4: do you think Stingley is going to get targeted this

443
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 4: year versus last year or the year before.

444
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 5: Well, it's based on reputation alone.

445
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 1: I think that's starting to increase.

446
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: I think I'm saying against other teams. Yeah, I think

447
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: it's starting to increase. I think it will increase. You

448
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: could see it a little bit at the end of

449
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 2: the season, like, man, we really don't want to throw

450
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 2: twenty four. We might throw underneath, we might throw short stuff,

451
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 2: we might do that, but we're really not going to

452
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: challenge him with any intermediate or deep stuff.

453
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: It's just you know, kind of wasting time and.

454
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 2: Your threatening it, you know, turnovers at that point to

455
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: your offense, and so you kind of I don't know.

456
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: So I saw a little bit of it as a

457
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: season war on last year. I think it will happen

458
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: more and more often. The problem is for defel for

459
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, posing offenses is all right, well, you're gonna

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 2: see Kamaria Laster, so good luck.

461
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that, but he's gonna get tested.

462
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 2: But then again, he got tested last year and I

463
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: think he really kind of rose up and showed, man,

464
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: you might want to go somewhere else with the football.

465
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Speaker 1: Have a different plan.

466
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: So unfortunately the Chiefs did have a different plan, and

467
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 2: that different plan was to throw the Travis Kelce and

468
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: to throw to him often in the middle of our defense.

469
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 2: So linebackers and safeties have got to improve in pass coverage.

470
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: But it was pretty clear yesterday, yesterday and Wednesday whenever

471
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: that was Kamara Lasters is definitely definitely on it. I

472
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: love watching Jalen Noel. In fact, most of the time

473
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: I watched practice by myself.

474
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: I just like it that way.

475
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: If I'm watching with media members that are like, hey,

476
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Speaker 2: what do you think about this? Or they want to

477
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: put you you know, they want to ask me questions

478
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: about certain things, I want to watch job. I want

479
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 2: to be able to talk about it like we're doing

480
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: here and so on Wednesday when I watched practice, I actually,

481
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: you know, Mark was there and so but he knows, uh,

482
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: he'll come over and say a few things to me,

483
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: and we were watching Jalen Knowle and he may catched

484
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: the end of practice where he's running kind of a

485
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: kind of a short corner would call sail route, not

486
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: quite an out route, not a seven route like a

487
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: corner route, but.

488
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: Kind of in between that.

489
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: And the ball's got to be kind of layered and

490
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: it's gotta it can't be you know, lasered, it can't

491
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: be floated. It's got to be kind of in between

492
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: this and buddy, Buddy, I call it a two ball,

493
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: not a one, not a three, but a two run

494
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: between and so throw is great, and Jalen's got to

495
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: just run under that thing. And the ball is right

496
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: at the sideline, so he's got to run under it

497
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: and then bang Bango's feet and it's right in front

498
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: of him and you can see it and it's like wow.

499
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: But just watching Jalen Nole move, it's so sudden, it's

500
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: so it is just so quick and so explosive. And

501
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: one of the things I notice Tea in Christian Kirk

502
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: in particular, working a drill with wide receivers. They do

503
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: a lot with their upper body, but they don't waste

504
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: time with their feet, so they'll give you shimmy shakes

505
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: and all that the line of scrimmage and they'll swap

506
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: and they'll swipe to get loose, but they may take

507
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: two steps and it just goes boom boom. So you

508
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: get all this activity up above, but it's two steps

509
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: and it's their by and they're gone. That to me

510
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: is the secret to really good receiving play. You see

511
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: a lot of these young guys doing all these kind

512
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: of and one moves and they'll take like eight steps,

513
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: like Travis Hunter. You know, he was doing his pro day.

514
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: He's working on a slant. He took like eight steps

515
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: to the right, eight steps eleven and they're quick, but

516
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: when you take that many steps, it's slow. And you

517
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: could tell Jalen Nole is economy of movement, which I

518
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 2: really like. So it was really fun to watch, uh

519
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: Jalen Nole Kawai Laster cool seeing Jalen Reid make a

520
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: play back in his secondary he was safety, stay safety,

521
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: the rookie. I think it's gonna be a tough nut

522
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: to crack back there once CJ is back there with

523
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: Kaylon and those two are back there.

524
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: You got Petrie and Nickel, you still have them.

525
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 5: J Stewart.

526
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 4: He's an interesting one because when I interviewed him right

527
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: after the draft, Jalen Reid, Yeah, he was excited, he

528
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: was happy to be a Texan, but there was an

529
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: edge to him. Did I talk about this with you?

530
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. We talked about there was an.

531
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: Edge with him where he I think he thought I

532
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: should have been taken higher and bo guys do yeah,

533
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: good thing.

534
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: I thought he should have been gone all the way higher.

535
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 5: And I noticed that little edge with him.

536
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: Not a little, but I noticed that edge with him,

537
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: and I think that could be a nice bit of

538
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: fuel for whatever he winds up doing this year and beyond.

539
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: But he's somebody that that was the overriding thing that

540
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: I noticed from him in my short zoom interview with him,

541
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: the one on one I did with him right I

542
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: was drafted. So I'm fascinated to see what he makes

543
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: of that. But sorry, yeah, I think he You know,

544
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 4: he made play.

545
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: Which is nice. Nice to see rookies just stepping up

546
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: and making plays.

547
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: Of course, everybody wants to talk about the offensive line

548
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: and the configuration.

549
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: Well hold on, what do you think? What do you

550
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 4: think of Jadon Higgins? The other wide wide receiver the

551
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: first time that the Texans took I mean, did you

552
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: see much? I mean it was it just kind of like, yeah,

553
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I advertise.

554
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, my my comp for him going into the

555
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: draft was Nico Collins.

556
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: And you know, you could see the differences when you

557
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 2: just watch them and you're like, yo, Nico's yoked up,

558
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 2: and not that Jayden isn't.

559
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: But Nico has been in.

560
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 2: You know, in this weight room for four years, right,

561
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean you could see you can see it, like

562
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: you can see how he moves and his size and

563
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: just his physicality. We know that, uh, and we already

564
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: know how Nico plays as a professional. Jayden is still

565
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's wiry, so he's not totally filled

566
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: out yet and he might might not. This might be,

567
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: but then again, you don't need every wide receiver to

568
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: look like Nico. But Jaden's very smooth for a guy

569
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: his size, very quick in out of his breaks, very

570
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 2: smooth in and out of his breaks, catches everything thrown

571
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: his way. I think that's the one thing about Jalen

572
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: and and Jaden the receivers really Now. I looked away

573
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but at one point I said

574
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: to mark Man. The balls hit the even at seven,

575
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: not seven on seven, and on air like ball hit

576
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: the ground. Was like the ball got into the city

577
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: of the receivers. It was caught, which I think is

578
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: a great thing. Now, obviously there's no dbs, they're just

579
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: running routes on air.

580
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I get it. But we've seen plenty of times drew.

581
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: Out of practice where ball's thrown very well and you know,

582
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, mittens for hands can't hang on to it.

583
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: And then we've seen times where receivers catch everything. And

584
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: I think over the last few years, I think we've

585
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: seen more of receivers that you have better hands and

586
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: better to catch in trap things like that. It does

587
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: help that you have a quarterback that is very accurate

588
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: and precise, so you know where the ball is going

589
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: to be and right can put the ball at different

590
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: spots in your body to help protect you from defenders

591
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: making plays.

592
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: But I know two rookie receivers.

593
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: You know, we say this a lot as it pertains

594
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: the ot as when the team first gets together, do

595
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: they belong?

596
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: Does it look like they belong? And I don't think

597
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: there's any question.

598
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: It's funny because my comp for Jalen knowle was Christian

599
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Kirk and he's here and he's here, and so you

600
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: see the two of them next to one another, and

601
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 2: you like you could see it like Christian's a little

602
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: bit more filled out, it's a little thicker, Jalen's a

603
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: little shorter, but you can just see kind of the

604
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: same movements, the way they move, how quick they are.

605
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting, there's there's same the

606
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: release pattern.

607
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: You know, instead of using you know, all these kind

608
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: of foot movements, they use kind of upper body movements

609
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 2: and it's very economy, like one two steps and then

610
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: they're gone. And I think that's to me, that's more

611
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: efficient than a lot of things you see now, especially

612
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: see these videos on Instagram and all these young receivers

613
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: are like watch this release and it's like it takes

614
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: you ten seconds to get free, Like that doesn't do

615
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: any good.

616
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: Get free right now.

617
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: And I think that's seemingly what jaaln Mole's been taught

618
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: and he's caught on and the way that Christian Kirk

619
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: has evolved into that type of receiver. So it's good

620
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: to see Kirk as well and go, oh yeah, he's

621
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: a Texan.

622
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: Hell yes, Finally, finally, after you and I saw him

623
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: first game, remember at Texas A and M when he

624
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: zigs and zags long punt return yep for a touchdown.

625
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 4: That was pretty cool back in twenty sixteen. All right,

626
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: offensive line, that's the big question work. I think by

627
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: most heading into camp, what's it going to look like?

628
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: Who's going to be what's the alignment left to right?

629
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: We saw a few combinations yesterday. I don't think you'll

630
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: see those combinations be the one that is out there

631
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: in week one yep, or if you do, it'll be

632
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: a variation of that. But how much can you really gain? Mean,

633
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: looking at these guys right now in late May and

634
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 4: judge from what you've seen. I mean, I know you

635
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: saw some nice things, but how much do you have

636
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: to temper that with well shorts it's May, we don't, Yeah,

637
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: what what happens to the bullets fly?

638
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: Well?

639
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: I mean A difference difference between a collision sport and

640
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: a contact sport is right there right now.

641
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: It's a contact sport, you know, It's like basketball. Basketball

642
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: is contact sport. People might not think that, but it is.

643
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: It is. But football being the ultimate collision sport, that's

644
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: that changes obviously in spring training, I think, or training camp.

645
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: I think the one thing I when I try, when

646
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: I talk about the offensive line and offensive linemen in

647
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: in OTAs, I talk about the things that you actually

648
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: can see, but that end up being important. You know,

649
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: this guy transformed his body. And look, I heard, you know,

650
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Brandon and Seth on sports Radio six ten on Wednesday

651
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: or Thursday morning to talk about this in a sense,

652
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: not gonna fall for the banana of the tailpipe if

653
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 2: you will. And I'm like, so, guys, you're talking about

654
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: a guy's body. Doesn't mean that he's going to turn

655
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: out to end he's gonna end up being a stud.

656
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: But I think everybody you know goes back to Kennyan

657
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Green and says, well, you know, as I I would say,

658
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: Kenyan's first step is a transformer his body. He doesn't

659
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: do that, He's got no chance he did that, but

660
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: it just didn't come together as a player. And so

661
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: I think people look at it as well, if he

662
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: got his body right, he was going to be a

663
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: start Like, No, that wasn't that wasn't the way. And

664
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't look at it that way. But guys have

665
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: made transformations body wise that I think can translate into

666
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: better play out on the field because they're a little

667
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: bit stronger, they can handle different movements by pass rushers

668
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: and defensive linemen. I mean, I think that's one of

669
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: the things that you can see, Like just looking at Blake,

670
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Fisher looks different. Cam Robinson's a unit man. I mean,

671
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: that's a big, well put together guy.

672
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: Been good.

673
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, has Cam Cam exactly. That is the difference between

674
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: he and Blake right now, Blake doesn't have a track record.

675
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: He's played three or four games, and you know, according

676
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: to all the analytics football nerdy Nerdies, you know, he

677
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: wasn't that good. But I saw some good things from Blake,

678
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: and I also realized that guy's a rookie trying to

679
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: play one of the most difficult positions. And once he

680
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: moved over to right tackle, he's facing Chop Robinson, He's

681
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: facing George Carl Loftis. He faced some dudes and that's

682
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: not the easiest thing. All the while, with an offensive

683
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: line that was was kind of struggling as a unit.

684
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: So there were some guys you can tell they've been

685
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: in the weight room, they've kind of transformed their body.

686
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: How the front five is gonna look right now, Hey,

687
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: they threw five guys out there and away we go.

688
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: And I know there's been a lot of consternation, Well

689
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: there's no competition. Last year, you know, they put those

690
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: five in and they were just the five guys. And

691
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: I always would say that, well, yeah, because what was

692
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: behind them to push them?

693
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, they got the job because they were the

694
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: five best.

695
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: But I think now they've got I think it's like

696
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: fifteen bodies and there's an opportunity there for a guy

697
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: off the beaten path that Jayalen Thomas, Ladarius Henderson, maybe

698
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: even Eli Cox to show themselves in training camp and

699
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: showing the three preseason games and showing the two joint practices.

700
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Hey, this guy's got a little something.

701
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Make the decision hard, make the decision at center difficult,

702
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: make decision at left guard and right guard difficult. Make

703
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Cam Robinson work for his supper if you will. It's

704
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: it's going to be a work in progress until it.

705
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Isn't that makes sense.

706
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: It is, and you know, and even in week one,

707
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: it's still gonna be a week a work in progress.

708
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: But it can be a work in progress together. It

709
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be five independent contractors it's got to

710
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: be five guys that fit together and fit the best.

711
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: As Herb Brooks said in the movie Miracle, not looking

712
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: for the best player, I'm looking for the right ones.

713
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite parts of the movie Miracle,

714
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: Herb Brooks talking about putting together the right players, not

715
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: just the best ones, and that resulted in a gold

716
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: medal for the United States and Olympic Hockey, which had

717
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: not happened. Only it only happened once prior to that,

718
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixteen Squad Valley, California.

719
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: So away we go.

720
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Now, one thing we didn't get to in this segment

721
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: was talking about joint practices. True, and I kind of

722
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: went on for a little while discussing the joint practices

723
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: we have been a part of because it was announced

724
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: this week the Texas will be taking on the Panthers

725
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: here for a practice and Detroit for a practice up

726
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: before we take on the lines in the preseason game.

727
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: So we discussed that our thoughts and memories, and we

728
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: had a laugh at a good friend of ours expense.

729
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: We'll do that next on Texas All Access. We went

730
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: final segment this this year to Texas All Access. Let's

731
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: get right back to it. Joint practices were announced for

732
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: this year. Going to take on the Carolina Panthers at

733
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: home for a practice, Gonna go to Detroit take on

734
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: a Lions for a practice. Drew Dory and I sat

735
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: down and discussed what we remembered about joint practices. It's

736
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: fun at somebody's expense. We'll get to that in just

737
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: a second, but let's get right back to it.

738
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 5: Let's end with this.

739
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: Demiko Ryans announced yesterday that the Texans are gonna have

740
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: a joint practice here yes against the Charlotte or against

741
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers, and a joint practice up in Detroit.

742
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: Against the Lions.

743
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna be against each of or gonna be before

744
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: each of the preseason games. So with that in mind,

745
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: I want you to give me your three favorite Texans

746
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: joint practices of all time. I'll start my favorite Texans

747
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 4: and Patriots at the Greenbrier twenty seventeen basically because it

748
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 4: was at the Green Briar that was the best training tip.

749
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: Of all time.

750
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: So that's degrees at practice. Man, That's my number one.

751
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: Because Tom Brady was out there there, Bob Gronkowski was

752
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: out there, Danny and Meidola I think was yeah, I

753
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: know he was out there and he came and had

754
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: a stint here. I used to cover him at Texas Tech.

755
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: That was a fun one.

756
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Yep.

757
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 4: Texans were pretty we thought gonna be a pretty good

758
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 4: team that year. They had the rookie quarterback and Deshaun Watson.

759
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 4: Things were looking up. So that's my number one? What's

760
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: your number one?

761
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: He got one. I just hit very very recently.

762
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: So what do you think, Well, there's there's so many

763
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: of them.

764
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: The one that I tend to remember was the famous

765
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: Let's get the Bleep out of Richmond, right, Jonathan was

766
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: a fun one. It was twenty fifteen Bons to Cours

767
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: against the Artists formerly noticed the Redskins.

768
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I were watching it.

769
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: We were freezing, yes, and then fights broke out all

770
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: over the field. And then that's the year we were

771
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: on Hard Knocks and the famous right. It's one of

772
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: the greatest endings of the first episode of Hard Knocks ever.

773
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: It's all this has happened, and all of a sudden

774
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: there's a shot at Kareem Jackson and Jonathan Joso on

775
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: the sideline and j Jo's miked up and he's like man,

776
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: let's get the leap out of Richmond. And it goes

777
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: to dark and I just remember like, oh, pretty good

778
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: that was that day with the fights and the rain

779
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: and the cold. There's a funny story about that training camp.

780
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell it here now we can look back and

781
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: it's kind of odd. But we got there and we

782
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: were still doing radio shows and so they had set

783
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: us up a tent. They kind of took us over

784
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: the tent, and then a little bit later they walked

785
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: over and said, hey, when you guys kind.

786
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Of need to be in here, and we're like, well,

787
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: we weren't like probably after practice, you know kind of thing.

788
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, because RG.

789
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Three's mom's radio show has to be here on Wednesday

790
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: or something. And we're like, wait now, RG three RG

791
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: three's mom's radio.

792
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: And I was like okay. We just kind of like

793
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Then walked away and Mark and I looked

794
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: at each other and thought what he was.

795
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: He wasn't a starter by then at that point he

796
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: had already not.

797
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 5: He had start.

798
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: He was coming off the injury. Yeah, so Jay Gruden,

799
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: the thought was that he was gonna come back and

800
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: be that guy, and he kind of got the first

801
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 2: run and then they realized nope, and then they went

802
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: the Cousins. I think it was they went the Cousins

803
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: that year in fifteen.

804
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: So that was mine. All right, you got another one.

805
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: I do. I have a good I have a good

806
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: I have a good story. I'd like to tell.

807
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: Well, you'll you'll tell it. Just let me tell you

808
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: this one real quick. Let's do two.

809
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: It's actually because of you three uh threes.

810
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: A little long.

811
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: But my first joint practice was back in twenty ten

812
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: because that was the first training camp that I got to.

813
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

814
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 5: Work.

815
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: I started working here at the end of two thousand

816
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 4: and nine's training and I actually had an in person interview.

817
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: With Jamie Roots Rest in Peace.

818
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Where I'd gotten the job, but like had to get

819
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: the final blessing from the president and to make sure,

820
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: you know, he didn't think I was some sort of psycho. Yeah,

821
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: And it was while the Texans and Saints were practicing

822
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: out here in two thousand and nine together. Yeah, but

823
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: it was the next year in New Orleans when the

824
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: Texans were practicing with the Saints. Because you walk off

825
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: the practice field and hey, you think, okay, I gotta

826
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: go cover the press conference.

827
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 5: I gotta do this, I gotta do that. And before

828
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 5: you do, there was a big grill.

829
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: I know where you going.

830
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 4: Tommytanovich of Drago's in New Orleans, he's got a few

831
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 4: locations there he's he's given out charred grilled oysters and

832
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: a piece of French bread to everybody walking off the field,

833
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: whether there's a player, was a coach, where there's a

834
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 4: knucklehead like me covering them all. But that was pretty

835
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 4: good and I had a few of those, and I

836
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: kind of like went back for the free sample at

837
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: h GB, you know, like had another round and then I.

838
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: Went in what he didn't catch me the first time.

839
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: He got He gave me four.

840
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: He hooked me up.

841
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 5: But it was good and it led to it.

842
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been back and seen Tommy times over the years,

843
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: but I loved that one as well. And I love

844
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 4: joint practices. It's just good to break things up, see

845
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: another team, see how things work, and see what goes down.

846
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: There's been a ton of them over the years. I

847
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: have a lot of other favorites, but those are my

848
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 4: two tip top favorites. What's your story you wanted to tell?

849
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: You. Okay, so I believe this was twenty Yeah, it

850
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: was twenty eighteen.

851
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: And so the year before we had gone to the

852
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: Greenbrier and we all stayed at the There was a

853
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: hotel we all stayed at. We were there for three weeks,

854
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: and I remember our good friend dB City complained every day.

855
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: She hated it, hated it.

856
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: I thought it was just fine.

857
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: I did too, So she hated it and I kind

858
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: of got it. Well.

859
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: The next year, something got lost in translation, and so

860
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: we end up having like, okay, we can't get the hotel, right,

861
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: but we're not staying at the Greenbrier with the team,

862
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: so we have to go do airbnbs.

863
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: And so you already travel, Yeah, Doherty Travel took care

864
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: of everything.

865
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: Five Star Traveling charged us up with places.

866
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: We all got these. So it's probably about.

867
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, a couple of days, maybe a day

868
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: before we're going to the Green Brier in twenty eighteen, and.

869
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: Deep's like, I'm panicked. I'm so worried, and we're like what.

870
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: She goes, well, just.

871
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Drew got me this this place and apparently I'm staying

872
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: there and the owner just messaged me, a guy named

873
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: Marty and I am freaked out because Marty is this

874
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: place is like by the river, Like, oh my god,

875
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: am I gonna wake up this?

876
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: So she got really.

877
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Panicked about this Marty staying at the place where she

878
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: was staying, and so Drew and the ultimate you know,

879
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: I'll take one for the Team's like, look, look, I'll

880
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: let me stay there. Deep He's like, I'm gonna go

881
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: stay at the hotel. She goes and gets the hotel

882
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: like the Holiday Inn or whatever. You go and stay

883
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: with Marty and all's gonna be good. Well coming out,

884
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: Marty is like a mid sixties woman who was like Drew,

885
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: I'll do your laundry.

886
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever you need, like the nicest woman ever.

887
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: It was so scared because it was like Marty at

888
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: this river cabin and she was gonna end up like

889
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: you know, James Connon misery or something like that. I

890
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, when we found out that Marty was

891
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: a woman, I don't think I laughed harder for that

892
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: particular story. Yeah, And it was so funny because she

893
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: hated it so much. And then she moved and it

894
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: was like Marty, Marty's a woman.

895
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: So I've got an iPhone and uh, I think you

896
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 5: do too.

897
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: And on the weather part, the weather app that I have, Yeah, yeah,

898
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: you can like set your favorites. Houston is the one

899
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: that pops up, yep, but you can you can add

900
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: a few other cities. And one of the cities I

901
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: added is Caldwell, West Virginia. Yeah, because that's where that

902
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: place was.

903
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was a slice of heaven, Like it

904
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: was just really nice place, Like there's a river right

905
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: right in front of you.

906
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: It was a river house on this property. It was

907
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: a private there's a private property, dozens and dozens and

908
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 4: dozens of hundreds of maybe one hundred some acres, and

909
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 4: they were about fourteen to fifteen homes each with at

910
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: least an acre or two of property. And this house

911
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: she she stayed downstairs, Marty did. Yeah, it's it was

912
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 4: almost totally detached from the upstairs, which was spacious and

913
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: really nice and a beautiful river house on this clear

914
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: river in the mountains of West Virginia. I mean I

915
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: drove in and drove out, and it took about five

916
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: minutes to get from the entrance to where the house was.

917
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: And it's a rocky road, nice rocky road, and saw

918
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: at least a dozen deer going to and from every

919
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: single day.

920
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 5: Shady.

921
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it was perfect, and so I

922
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 4: always check them. I wonder what's going on in called well,

923
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: West Virginia right now. But yeah, that was that was

924
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: a good one.

925
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was fun.

926
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: You had a sweet house. We found a like the

927
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: top of a hill.

928
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: We were.

929
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: We were the downstairs of probably like a five six

930
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: bedroom house and they had created two bedrooms and it

931
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: was enough space. It was the four of us, My

932
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: wife had two kids, and it was perfect. And so

933
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: for the first week my wife had I can't remember,

934
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: she had something going on. I she had conference or something,

935
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: and so she was gone the first week. But me

936
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: and the kids, we we had a We had a tremendous,

937
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: tremendous time. We were like overlooking we like walked out

938
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: on the ports. Like the first night we look out

939
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: and there's a black bear. Yeah, well, like you saw

940
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

941
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Wow, Oh, I mean you just it was. It was

942
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 1: odd in a sense.

943
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: But I think I'm trying to think the very first

944
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: joint practice that I ever went to might have been

945
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: one of the Broncos ones up in Denver. You know,

946
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: it actually was the week before it was the Falcons.

947
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: The Falcon here, remember Hard Knocks was here.

948
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 5: That's where JJ Watt going over the bridge.

949
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: That's one of the great scenes in Hard Knocks and

950
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: it's such a good scene. But that was Falcons, and

951
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 2: then the next week it was Broncos out in out

952
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: in Denver, which we talked to Chris Clark about. We

953
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: had Chris Clarkin studio last week and we were talking

954
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: to him about that and was he with them or

955
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: was he was with the Broncos at that time? And

956
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: what I thought was and I asked him about this

957
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: because in the one on ones they JJ and the

958
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: Broncos o line, particular Chris, they were getting after each

959
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: other like they were really it was really tense. There

960
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: were a lot of like chest to chests blow ups

961
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: and things. And I asked Chris about, like, you became

962
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: JJ's teammate the next year, and you know, you could

963
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: tell that. Chris was kind of like, yeah, you know,

964
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: we didn't talk a whole lot. But I always find

965
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: that interesting about joint practices because there were always guys

966
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: catching up that know each other, play together in high school,

967
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: play together, you know, on the same team, and weeks

968
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 2: ago sat right, and so there's always people that know

969
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: each But then there's always my moment last year when

970
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: I knew the Rams are gonna be pretty good, and

971
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I knew their defensive line was gonna be pretty good

972
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: early on in that practice, I was gonna spend the

973
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: day kind of with the defense. But the defense hadn't.

974
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, there was something were still waiting on

975
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 2: the Rams offense to get down there. So I watched

976
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: the first few plays of the Texans offense and the

977
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: first play of team Jared Verse. Whatever happens a run,

978
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: I think, and Jared Verse start talking trash to Larimie

979
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Tunsel and I was like, oh, rookies gonna get it now,

980
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: Like that's you just that's probably not the thing you

981
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: do to Larimie Tunsseel. I've seen people Laramie would get

982
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: cranked up when guys talk trash. And I'm telling you,

983
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: the very next play was a pass and Verse beat

984
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: Tunsel so badly, and I just remember going, well, he

985
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: talked it and then walked it against him, Holy smokes.

986
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: And then that defensive line.

987
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Now, once CJ got the ball off, he's fine because

988
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: the secondary wasn't very good. But those defensive linemen for

989
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: the Rams, holy cow.

990
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: And I was like that.

991
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: I remember walking in and was walking in with a

992
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: guy Michael Hoyte. You's not with the Bills, I believe

993
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: played with the Rams. He played at Brown University and

994
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: so I had never met him, and so I met

995
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: him after practice. We were talking a bunch and talking

996
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: about Brown and that was talking to him about his

997
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: defensive line. He kind of hit me, he goes, we're

998
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 2: pretty good now, and I was like, yeah, you guys

999
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: are pretty damn good. And it turned out to be

1000
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: that way for the rest of the year. But I

1001
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: remember that.

1002
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Last year from practice watching Stafford throw.

1003
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: That's one other thing Drew is seeing like the different

1004
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks we've gotten to see and joint practice over the years.

1005
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: Like we saw Matt Ryan and Peyton Manning that first year,

1006
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: one year, was Garoppolo his first or second year in

1007
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Stafford last year. Just seeing these quarterbacks. You

1008
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: mentioned Tom Brady when we were up actually practicing at

1009
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: the Greenbrier, just seeing him the Broncos, Peyton mann with

1010
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: the Broncos in fourteen, you know that was that was

1011
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: uh yeah, yeah, those those were the two quarterbacks. We

1012
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: saw that that offseason and you know those things. In sixteen,

1013
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: we were out in San Francisco and Allan Kaepernick was

1014
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: trying to come back from you know.

1015
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: An injury, and so Rogers, yeah, that's right, we were

1016
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: up in Green Bay. He was not happy about that.

1017
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: That that kind of was.

1018
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we maybe knew he was a

1019
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: demon before that, but I remember after practice he's kind

1020
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: of like, hey, Aaron, what's you think drog practice goes

1021
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: hate him?

1022
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Well, don't like him.

1023
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 5: Somebody delivered the lumbered up one of his guys, your.

1024
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: Guy Lonnie Johnson money yeah, lj Yeahlanie was good.

1025
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, piece of work.

1026
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,479
Speaker 5: So that was fun.

1027
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: What you need to do now with Mark is bring

1028
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: this up with him because he'll have his own ball

1029
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 4: of waxe, yes he will, but preface it and needle

1030
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: him just a little bit by asking him the question,

1031
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: which I do this every once in a while. Be

1032
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: like Mark Tom again, was Styx sticks became led Zeppelin

1033
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: or led Zeppelin became sticks?

1034
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, no, it's to who that became

1035
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: led Zeppelin. We just blew Mark's world, and that's what

1036
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: we were aiming to do. All I appreciate you guys

1037
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: for being with me this evening. Big thanks to Mark,

1038
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: to Drew, Jove you for listening. We'll see you on Monday,

1039
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: and as always, go Texans.