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Speaker 3: Man, it feels like forever since we've been on the air.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it kind of has forever since we've been on
Speaker 5: there two weeks to be exactly. We were out last week,
Speaker 5: but this week we are back, not whether or notwithstanding
Speaker 5: a lot of things going on last week.
Speaker 2: No, No, we were here last week.
Speaker 6: We were here.
Speaker 3: We're here last week.
Speaker 6: It was the two weeks before that, well at least
Speaker 6: for me.
Speaker 2: First, Nick we have to look at camera. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: now focus on.
Speaker 3: But it still feels like it feels like a long time.
Speaker 3: We're not doing it daily.
Speaker 5: It always feels like it's it takes forever to get
Speaker 5: back around to another episode. We got a lot we're
Speaker 5: going to talk about today. We got to mix a
Speaker 5: mix in a few different topics here. Assistant coaches for
Speaker 5: the Cowboys talked yesterday. We'll talk about that a little bit,
Speaker 5: some of the things that stood out there. Let's talk
Speaker 5: a little bit too about franchise tags. That's gonna the
Speaker 5: window open yesterday. Cowboys and every other team in the
Speaker 5: NFL have until March fourth to decide on that if
Speaker 5: they're going to be a play, if there will be
Speaker 5: a player that they will use a fan franchise tag.
Speaker 5: And we'll talk about that, and then we'll get some
Speaker 5: draft previews Brian and Nick. We're going to try to
Speaker 5: do this every episode now in the draft, let you
Speaker 5: guys kind of give us a little taste of the
Speaker 5: kinds of things you're talking about over on the Draft Show. Today,
Speaker 5: we'll focus in on a couple of players that we
Speaker 5: think are should be or could be targets for the
Speaker 5: Cowboys in the first round and let you guys give
Speaker 5: us some breakdowns there.
Speaker 3: We may even get to a little Yetny time with ag.
Speaker 5: We'll sew that goes if we get some time. We
Speaker 5: got fan questions also lined up. We got so much
Speaker 5: stuff we can hit today, so we'll see how far
Speaker 5: we get into this. As Amber always says, we'll only
Speaker 5: get to about half of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was about to say false promises around here.
Speaker 3: So that will only mean that my show Rundown is
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Speaker 5: All right, let's start first with the assistant coaches they
Speaker 5: spoke yesterday. I know everybody had a chance to look
Speaker 5: at some of the different information or look at some
Speaker 5: of the quotes that came out of that. Was there
Speaker 5: anything particular that stood out to you as you looked
Speaker 5: at that, or as you listen to those coaches talk
Speaker 5: that you think that impressed you in some way?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would like to start with Clayton Adams, just
Speaker 7: because I think there's more intrigue in him than any
Speaker 7: of the other coordinators or assistants. I give the caveat
Speaker 7: of Evraflus just because he is the former head coach
Speaker 7: in the building, but Clayton Adams, I was really intrigued
Speaker 7: to see what he had to say, and he definitely
Speaker 7: backed that up. I wrote down a few notes that
Speaker 7: I thought were interesting from him. We could start with
Speaker 7: the quote that stood out to me more than any
Speaker 7: of them, and the fifteen minute availability he had is
Speaker 7: how can we be multiple?
Speaker 6: How can we be different?
Speaker 7: And I think that is a key philosophy that this
Speaker 7: team needed last year, it needed probably.
Speaker 6: The last two years.
Speaker 7: And if they can figure out how to marry that
Speaker 7: concept with what Schottenheimer already has in place, that'd be huge.
Speaker 7: And what does that mean? That means being creative in
Speaker 7: the run game? In Clayton Adams's case, it includes pre
Speaker 7: snap motion, which Brian Schottenheimer has talked about many times
Speaker 7: how that helps in the past game. That was the
Speaker 7: quote that really stood out to me. And then there
Speaker 7: was a question asked as well about Clayton Adams. He
Speaker 7: comes from the Cardinals, he was the offensive line coach
Speaker 7: there for a few years. He obviously had Kyler Murray
Speaker 7: running the ball behind him. Dak Prescott is not Kyler
Speaker 7: Murray from a running perspective, but he was basically asked,
Speaker 7: is there anything you would like to use with Dak
Speaker 7: from a mobility standpoint, so that you can keep him
Speaker 7: involved and you know, have that same type of offensive
Speaker 7: concept move to Dallas. He said, if you're reading off
Speaker 7: of a play, it takes a digit off the board. Defensively,
Speaker 7: what does that mean? You have one player on the
Speaker 7: defense that always has to be accounted for, Dak Prescott
Speaker 7: on every snap. If the threat to run is there, Now,
Speaker 7: what does that look like with Dak Prescott's health. That's
Speaker 7: what we're gonna to figure out down the line. And
Speaker 7: Clayton Adams said yesterday that you know, they're they're at
Speaker 7: a period in time right now where they can't even
Speaker 7: talk football with the players. They can really only introduce
Speaker 7: themselves over text or call and say hey, you know
Speaker 7: what's up. But once those football conversations start to come around,
Speaker 7: maybe OTA's or mini camp, that's that's gonna be a
Speaker 7: big one, just because you know, how healthy is Dak
Speaker 7: Prescott's legs and they have four years that they need
Speaker 7: to use Dak Prescott in so are they are they
Speaker 7: willing to run him as much as they did in
Speaker 7: twenty three or as much as they did, you know
Speaker 7: prior to his injury in twenty and then the last thing.
Speaker 7: And I don't want to take everything from my mansama
Speaker 7: right here, but create violence, run hit. Everything we do
Speaker 7: schematically needs to play into that.
Speaker 6: That's the big one.
Speaker 7: And I think if that can marry well with what
Speaker 7: Schottenheimer does in the past game, if they can have
Speaker 7: a little bit more violence, a little bit more toughness offensively,
Speaker 7: then obviously it would transition over defensively as well.
Speaker 2: Never say that you don't have a few words. You're
Speaker 2: a man of not few words.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I took a page out of my book at
Speaker 8: that time, so thank you for what you did. Where
Speaker 8: I think a mandate came down from I know, from
Speaker 8: the offensive side of the ball. I heard the word toughness,
Speaker 8: and we talk about toughness quite a bit, and I.
Speaker 2: Think the mandate is to will McLay into.
Speaker 8: These scouts and to the personnel guys and gallas that
Speaker 8: work in this building, is that.
Speaker 2: They need to get to be a tougher football team.
Speaker 8: And that's you know, we talk about the violence and
Speaker 8: things like that, but now you look at you you
Speaker 8: have an idea. As a former person guy myself, if
Speaker 8: I'm listening to these coaches talk and trying to get
Speaker 8: an idea, get a pattern of what I'm hearing. It's
Speaker 8: like we need to earmark tough football players, and it's
Speaker 8: you know, to play this game, you have to be tough,
Speaker 8: but there takes a little bit more of an inner toughness.
Speaker 8: And we've seen this. This team has been good enough
Speaker 8: to win division titles, has it been good enough to
Speaker 8: win conference titles, get go through the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Tough teams do that. Tough mentally, tough physically.
Speaker 8: I think the mandate from the coaches is we want
Speaker 8: to be a tougher team. And so with that being said,
Speaker 8: will McClay, the personnel folks over there, got their got
Speaker 8: their marching orders, and I think you're going to see
Speaker 8: a direction of that way going that way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right on board with you guys. With that
Speaker 4: being the main thing that stood out to me during
Speaker 4: his time with the media.
Speaker 6: We talked about it last year.
Speaker 4: You look at other teams around the NFL and we
Speaker 4: talked about that whole point of how are these other
Speaker 4: teams being more aggressive on the field, and it's something
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys have and you don't see that same
Speaker 4: type of aggressiveness when they're on the field playing and
Speaker 4: offensively that's an area where it's highly needed, and right
Speaker 4: now it's difficult for them to answer, like what is
Speaker 4: exactly gonna look like because you still don't have all
Speaker 4: your players yet, all your personnel in that area. We
Speaker 4: got to wait until the draft and you start building
Speaker 4: that roster. But the fact that that's the question that's
Speaker 4: being asked in like with him coming in here and saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's a great area. How how are we gonna be
Speaker 4: more violent? How are we gonna be more aggressively aggressive?
Speaker 4: How are we going to allow these players to run
Speaker 4: more free and be able to just hit and be
Speaker 4: more violent in that way. So right now, again there's
Speaker 4: not much that they can answer at this moment, but
Speaker 4: the fact that those are the questions that are being presented,
Speaker 4: the things that are being talked about, that's something that's
Speaker 4: a positive when you that you want to hear because
Speaker 4: we talked so much about just being very aggressive in
Speaker 4: the passing game, in the run, being able. And something
Speaker 4: that also stood out to me was the fact that
Speaker 4: he talked so much about the offensive lineman, the lineman
Speaker 4: and some of the things that they're looking to improve
Speaker 4: in that area that we know that's a huge part
Speaker 4: right there. We still don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 4: at the running back position, but it all starts with
Speaker 4: the line, and he mentioned that that's a high area
Speaker 4: of focus for him coming in and just trying to
Speaker 4: figure out what they do there with the offensive line.
Speaker 5: So I hear violence a lot when we're talking here.
Speaker 5: My question as I was listening to some of those
Speaker 5: comments is is violence is the ability to be more
Speaker 5: violent more you know, I don't know, to be able
Speaker 5: to push your opponent around. Is that really something that
Speaker 5: a coach can create or is that really about the
Speaker 5: player and the player having to have that mental makeup
Speaker 5: to just be that type of player.
Speaker 8: I think it's some mentality. But I also think that
Speaker 8: when you evaluate your team, you can weed out who
Speaker 8: you feel like, okay, when it comes to mental toughness
Speaker 8: or physical toughness, these are the players that we can
Speaker 8: surely hang our hats on. I think that they're going
Speaker 8: to be. I think this defensive unit is going to
Speaker 8: look remarkably different from what we've seen the last couple
Speaker 8: of years. I think it's different scheme wise, and I
Speaker 8: think it's going to look different personnel wise, just because
Speaker 8: of how players come and go the situation that the
Speaker 8: Cowboys are up against with their cap in some areas.
Speaker 8: So I think that to me, now this is the opportunity.
Speaker 8: As I mentioned earlier, this personnel department now has the
Speaker 8: task of going out and getting that those type of players.
Speaker 8: The players we saw a tough mentality in the early
Speaker 8: nineties with Jimmy Johnson. That was a tough If you
Speaker 8: ever went to a practice in Austin at Saint Ed's,
Speaker 8: you saw toughness. You ever went to you know, some
Speaker 8: of these practice, even adjacent Garrett practice, had elements of
Speaker 8: toughness to it because of the way that they work
Speaker 8: the players. So to work the players that way, you
Speaker 8: have to be able to find players that can adapt
Speaker 8: and and and welcome that kind of coaching, but play
Speaker 8: with that kind of mentality.
Speaker 3: It's kind of both as well. It's absolutely voaching and
Speaker 3: it is and it's.
Speaker 8: Not a ride defence thing because you know me, I
Speaker 8: hate the ride defense. I want to give you an
Speaker 8: answer one way or another. But they are now tasked
Speaker 8: the personal guys. They're tasked to trying to find tougher players.
Speaker 8: And like I said earlier, this game playing it is tough.
Speaker 8: It's tough to play, but you have to have a
Speaker 8: certain level of that little bit more toughness in order
Speaker 8: to be that type of team that you want to be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it certainly doesn't happen overnight either. No, it's
Speaker 7: it's it's gonna take some time. And that's where you
Speaker 7: hope that this staff has the time to to really
Speaker 7: enact that and put that in place, not only from
Speaker 7: a personnel acquisition standpoint, but from a philosophy standpoint. Again,
Speaker 7: it's not gonna happen overnight. It can't happen in one season.
Speaker 7: So you know, if this staff remains in place for
Speaker 7: three years, what does that look like compared to today?
Speaker 4: I think sometimes you either have it or you don't.
Speaker 4: You know, physically, yeah, you're gonna have some limitations there,
Speaker 4: and some players might not be able to do the
Speaker 4: same as others. But it helps a lot depending on
Speaker 4: the voice that you have, the voice that you're listening to,
Speaker 4: and somebody that brings that in and starts changing that culture.
Speaker 4: Like you talk to me, and if I listen to
Speaker 4: David Goggins, all of a sudden, I feel like I
Speaker 4: can be a Navy seals and being that cold water
Speaker 4: in the ocean, is that it's not actually gonna have
Speaker 4: No I probably quit after two seconds. But I think
Speaker 4: the voice that you have it's highly important. It creates
Speaker 4: and it has this thing where it's contagious and everybody
Speaker 4: else around you. I think it starts making you tougher.
Speaker 4: And when you see somebody else trying to be tougher,
Speaker 4: you yourself. You want to be able to keep up
Speaker 4: and try to keep up. So I think it's maybe
Speaker 4: not with every single player it's gonna be that instance,
Speaker 4: because again everyone's physically different, but it's a start and
Speaker 4: towards the right direction and trying to change the mentality
Speaker 4: and the whole culture inside the locker room.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you getting a real quick Derek give
Speaker 8: I think you get a situation. For examples of last
Speaker 8: year's team. I don't think Zach Martin was perfect at
Speaker 8: all health wise, we all understand that. But Zach Martin,
Speaker 8: future Hall of Fame player, playing through injury. That's an
Speaker 8: element of toughness. And if you're you know, brock Hoffman,
Speaker 8: and you're Tyler Smith and your other guys and you're
Speaker 8: watching what he's going through and playing, it's not perfect,
Speaker 8: but you get that element of like what.
Speaker 2: It takes to go out there and play every day.
Speaker 8: And I think those are the types of examples that
Speaker 8: you need to get on this football team. We talk
Speaker 8: about this. Every time that you play the forty nine ers.
Speaker 8: You feel like you feel like that you're not tougher
Speaker 8: than them. There's a certain element to this, and it's
Speaker 8: one thing to talk about it. It's one thing to
Speaker 8: execute it. They're talking about it right now. They need
Speaker 8: to make sure that they execute it. But that's through
Speaker 8: the players.
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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about the franchise attag. We're going to
Speaker 5: talk about any players that we think could be possibilities
Speaker 5: and maybe what the advantages could be for the Cowboys
Speaker 5: if they decided to go that way.
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Speaker 5: let's talk about the franchise tag. That window open yesterday.
Speaker 5: It'll run through March fourth, Just so you have an
Speaker 5: idea of what the schedule looks like. Free agency, the
Speaker 5: legal tampering period will start on March tenth. It'll run
Speaker 5: through four pm Eastern on March twelfth, and that's when
Speaker 5: free agency will begin four pm Eastern on March twelve, twelve.
Speaker 5: That all being said, let's talk specifically about the franchise tag.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, O SOO DIGGI Zua is probably the
Speaker 5: most likely candidate, if win anyone, to be franchised by
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. And I say if anyone, because there's a
Speaker 5: good chance the Cowboys don't use franchise tag. But I'd
Speaker 5: like each of you to give me the best reason
Speaker 5: you can come up with as to why Dallas should
Speaker 5: use the franchise tag. On osa should should, we'll get
Speaker 5: to the should not, but let's talk about the should.
Speaker 7: I think should you get consistency at that three tech spot,
Speaker 7: and you want as much consistency as possible, I think
Speaker 7: from a personnel standpoint, so that you're not having to
Speaker 7: marry so much change personnel wise, with so much change
Speaker 7: already coming schematically, are you willing to pay a little
Speaker 7: bit more than what he would probably get on the
Speaker 7: open market per year if you were franchise tag? That's
Speaker 7: gonna be the question, how much is consistency on that
Speaker 7: defensive line important to you as a personnel guy.
Speaker 6: So I think that would probably be the strong case
Speaker 6: for why.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the why would be because we finally
Speaker 8: have got to the point where you drafted a player,
Speaker 8: you've developed him, and now you're starting to see the
Speaker 8: benefits from the development. There were times where I kind
Speaker 8: of felt like, oh, soo DIGGI Zua was a really
Speaker 8: good college player, and I mean a good college player
Speaker 8: because he was playing like thirteen games, but it was
Speaker 8: week fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen that you were kind
Speaker 8: of looking like, Okay, where did this player go? He
Speaker 8: plays so hard, he got wre down. You know, there
Speaker 8: were some struggles there the last month season, but he
Speaker 8: was able to play through all the season as a
Speaker 8: as a high level player, and you saw his ability
Speaker 8: to tackle, You saw his ability to take on blockers,
Speaker 8: you saw his ability as a pass rusher. You know,
Speaker 8: there were so many things that he got better at.
Speaker 8: So if you're interested in keeping that going forward and
Speaker 8: seeing continued development, you know, you take that tag, you
Speaker 8: put it on him for one year and you have
Speaker 8: it and then you work from there so you don't
Speaker 8: lose the opportunity to have a player that looks like
Speaker 8: he's on the rise right now.
Speaker 2: As far as a guy you developed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think personally, I don't think there's anyone
Speaker 4: on the ruster that I would want to use the
Speaker 4: franchise tag on. But if you're asking, and you're presenting
Speaker 4: this case with OSA as to why they should and
Speaker 4: why that would make sense money wise, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But he's a guy just like they all said, you've
Speaker 4: seen the way that he's developed. Right now, he's at
Speaker 4: the best moment of his career. Last year he had
Speaker 4: such a good year healthy knock on wood it says
Speaker 4: that way, but he's been so he was so productive
Speaker 4: on the field, And yes, anytime you see that, you
Speaker 4: want to be able to keep that. You want to
Speaker 4: be able to keep that consistency in the line. And
Speaker 4: that would be one position to worry less about that
Speaker 4: you have solidified. You have already so many other positions
Speaker 4: that you have to address, and of course you want
Speaker 4: to be able to keep a veteran guy like him
Speaker 4: that continues to develop and improve. And right now, I
Speaker 4: don't think we've seen the ceiling for him. I think
Speaker 4: he's continuing to show you what he brings to the
Speaker 4: table and looking at Micah Parsons and figure out what
Speaker 4: he has, what they're going to do with his contract
Speaker 4: and all of that. But the combination of guy having
Speaker 4: a guy like Micah and also also on that side,
Speaker 4: we don't know what's going to happen with DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 4: is another guy that's becoming a free agent. But those
Speaker 4: are two guys that if you can keep them together
Speaker 4: on the line, I mean, it's just going to make
Speaker 4: your job easier when addressing these other positions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this.
Speaker 5: The thing that stands out to me that I think
Speaker 5: would be a benefit of a franchise tag for him
Speaker 5: is I think we've seen, as Brian said, this.
Speaker 3: Development over the years.
Speaker 5: I think he's gotten appreciably better each year, and quite frankly,
Speaker 5: I think he was the best last year.
Speaker 3: I want to see what the ceiling is.
Speaker 5: I want to see if last year was more about
Speaker 5: a contract year, I kind of want to see one
Speaker 5: more year of it to see what's his real ceiling here?
Speaker 16: Right?
Speaker 5: And could you be on the cusp of a really
Speaker 5: great defensive tackle that you've developed to this point and
Speaker 5: now he goes somewhere else and he's one of the best.
Speaker 3: In the league, that would really.
Speaker 5: Upset me, right, So I'm like, franchise tack allows me
Speaker 5: to get at least one more year to think, to
Speaker 5: know what I think of him long term and feel
Speaker 5: more secure in whatever that evaluation is, and then be
Speaker 5: willing to if you want to go all in and
Speaker 5: be able to give him that deal, then you give
Speaker 5: him that deal.
Speaker 3: But that one more year.
Speaker 5: I think could be helpful for somebody like him who
Speaker 5: has gotten better every year, but last year I think
Speaker 5: made a big jump. I want to see if he
Speaker 5: can sustain that through another year before I would pay
Speaker 5: him the big money.
Speaker 4: But do you have the money to be able to
Speaker 4: make a decision like that for the team? It just
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like it's a good position to place a
Speaker 4: franchise tag or on a guy like him or anybody
Speaker 4: else on the team in my opinion. Well, but it's
Speaker 4: like when you look at the again, I'm not the
Speaker 4: salary cap and expert over here, but all one thing
Speaker 4: I know is the Cowboys are struggling with money right now,
Speaker 4: and it just doesn't seem like the smartest thing to
Speaker 4: do this year. And with a guy like him, you
Speaker 4: talk about wanting to see one more year. I think
Speaker 4: he's had a solid career. Last year was the best
Speaker 4: one he's had yet. Personally, I don't feel like I
Speaker 4: need to see more. I just want to keep him here,
Speaker 4: and if that means a long term deal, then so
Speaker 4: be it.
Speaker 5: Well, and get me wrong, if you can get a
Speaker 5: long term deal that makes sense, then great. A long
Speaker 5: term deal is always better because you get to take
Speaker 5: that money to extrapolate the signing bonus over the years
Speaker 5: of the contract, or you could backload the contract. You
Speaker 5: can give yourself some cap relief. I think those things
Speaker 5: are all positive. I guess the way I look at it, though,
Speaker 5: is there are ways that the Cowboys can create salary
Speaker 5: cap for this upcoming year. If they feel like that's
Speaker 5: an important piece, and he's an important piece, I think
Speaker 5: they could probably do it.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 5: It's probably not profitable to do a franchise tag because
Speaker 5: again it is one year and all that's going to
Speaker 5: hit your cap in that one year. But I just
Speaker 5: I like the idea of being able to again, if
Speaker 5: I'm giving an argument asked to why if I can't
Speaker 5: do a long term deal with him, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Keeping him around for another year so that I can
Speaker 5: get a better feel for what his long term value
Speaker 5: is to me would be an advantage.
Speaker 7: The thing that I struggle with on using the franchise
Speaker 7: tag on him is that franchise tag number would be
Speaker 7: a twenty three and a half million, give or takes
Speaker 7: twenty three point four to six a, so twenty three
Speaker 7: and a half.
Speaker 6: This team has suffered from not having.
Speaker 7: Depth, and you need depth going into this next seas
Speaker 7: So do you spend that twenty three and a half
Speaker 7: million dollars on a sure thing at three Tech? Granted you,
Speaker 7: as you mentioned, you know it was a it felt
Speaker 7: like a college player at times because you disappear in
Speaker 7: November December.
Speaker 2: But played well, played really well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, played really well this past season, so you have
Speaker 7: one good year under your belt. How confident do you
Speaker 7: feel that he can play up to a twenty three
Speaker 7: and a half million dollar value?
Speaker 6: Do you do that?
Speaker 7: Or do you go re sign Carl Last and Chauncey
Speaker 7: Golston Jordan Lewis I mean, et cetera, et cetera at
Speaker 7: Chumay Dooga. If you want an extra offensive lineman for
Speaker 7: that same amount of price, and probably still have some
Speaker 7: money left over, and you're dealing with the defensive tackle
Speaker 7: class in this draft that is really strong. You can
Speaker 7: go find a three tech.
Speaker 3: So and there's our answer to why you shouldn't.
Speaker 8: There's the answer, not anything you have to do with
Speaker 8: the player, but it all has to do with the
Speaker 8: players that are potentially available at the three technique.
Speaker 2: I think this is you know.
Speaker 8: When you start to talk about the edge class, the
Speaker 8: defensive tackle class, whether it's the one techniques, the three techniques,
Speaker 8: these are the ones that are that are on the
Speaker 8: board for your right there.
Speaker 2: So that would be if it was a really weak class.
Speaker 8: Say say this was say that we had this question
Speaker 8: about Eric Kendricks, Say you know, okay, Eric Kendricks played
Speaker 8: the level like, would you franchise tag Eric Kendricks? You know,
Speaker 8: just I'm using him as an example, you would say, yeah,
Speaker 8: I would absolutely consider it. Because the depth of the
Speaker 8: linebacker class in this draft is not as deep as
Speaker 8: it is with the defensive tackles or the edges. So
Speaker 8: that's the biggest reason why I think I would move
Speaker 8: on for most And I think Nick made an excellent
Speaker 8: point about could I earmark that money for other positions
Speaker 8: and don't let all this depth that you've developed the
Speaker 8: last three years just completely walk out this building.
Speaker 4: Oh right, let me ask you guys this. Since we've
Speaker 4: been talking about just the Cowboys potentially changing their approach
Speaker 4: during free agency, and we talked about how other teams
Speaker 4: have been successful during free agency being more aggressive, what
Speaker 4: is the position that you would want to be aggressive
Speaker 4: at during free agency?
Speaker 8: Linebacker? And there's and I know we can't get into
Speaker 8: specific names, but if you listen to me on other podcasts,
Speaker 8: I'll talk about those names. You listen to me on one, O, five, three,
Speaker 8: I'll talk about those names too. But there's a there's
Speaker 8: a position that I would absolutely look at, and I
Speaker 8: think it's linebacker. And I think there's some names that
Speaker 8: you would absolutely like.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't hate. Receiver, Yeah, I wouldn't hate. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: hate that approach. I mean, you can't go get the
Speaker 7: big thirty million dollar guys, but you can go get
Speaker 7: a five to ten million dollar guy that can finally
Speaker 7: be a wide receiver two to CD.
Speaker 3: The other one I would look at.
Speaker 5: I'd look at an offensive lineman if I thought there
Speaker 5: was a tackle or a guard out there that I
Speaker 5: thought could make me better a veteran type, especially if
Speaker 5: I end up losing Zach Martin to retirement, then I
Speaker 5: would definitely look at that. I think this they could
Speaker 5: use that sort of veteran presence if they find a
Speaker 5: good veteran I'm not talking about. This reminds me of
Speaker 5: kind of when the Cowboys went out to get Kyle Kolesar.
Speaker 5: Cal Kozar wasn't the best party league, but he was
Speaker 5: a very very good, solid, serviceable guard on that line.
Speaker 3: I would look like a guy I would.
Speaker 5: Look at somebody like that at guard or tackle that
Speaker 5: I could bring in here to compete.
Speaker 8: Let me ask you guys this question, then, because there's
Speaker 8: certain organizations that are putting Zach Martin with other teams.
Speaker 2: You know, now, if.
Speaker 8: Zach Martin in fact was willing to play or is
Speaker 8: going to play, is he a consideration for you? Because
Speaker 8: you mentioned Derek about talking about going in and signing
Speaker 8: maybe an offensive lineman, maybe a guard. Should you circle
Speaker 8: back with Zach Martin see where that number is.
Speaker 5: I would have to feel certain that he is healthy
Speaker 5: and that he is going to be able to play
Speaker 5: at a level that's commensurate with what he has been
Speaker 5: throughout his career, the level that he played last year.
Speaker 5: I don't know that I'm necessarily interested in that night
Speaker 5: we've saw We saw this with with Tyron when they walk,
Speaker 5: when they when they let Tyron walk, I think it
Speaker 5: was a similar thing where they kind of thought at
Speaker 5: that point it just from an injury standpoint, we couldn't
Speaker 5: trust it. And now so you're that point with I
Speaker 5: kind of think I am, But I would want to
Speaker 5: have that conversation with him, a real honest conversation, like
Speaker 5: do you think after this offseason you'll be back if
Speaker 5: he wants to come back and play, do you think
Speaker 5: you'll be at a point where your health will be
Speaker 5: back to what it was before, or do you think
Speaker 5: you're at a point in your career where it's just
Speaker 5: always going to be stuff.
Speaker 3: It's always going to be problems. There are always going
Speaker 3: to be issues.
Speaker 5: And if and if he can honestly tell me that
Speaker 5: he feels like he's he can be back to where
Speaker 5: he was, I'll trust him because he's earned that trust
Speaker 5: with all he's done for you, He's earned that trust.
Speaker 5: But I would have that kind of really honest conversation.
Speaker 8: So, but if he shows up like in Kansas City
Speaker 8: and is their starting guard.
Speaker 2: We're all gonna feel terrible.
Speaker 3: Right, depends. It depends. Like same thing with Tyron.
Speaker 5: If Tyron would have gone to New York and he
Speaker 5: would have played great and been healthy, I would have
Speaker 5: I would have said, Wow, maybe they let him go.
Speaker 3: It's a good example. Would be DeMarcus.
Speaker 5: When DeMarcus went to Denver, they let him walk because
Speaker 5: it was like we just always there's a lot of injury,
Speaker 5: and then it was a situation where we got there
Speaker 5: and they just chuse him.
Speaker 3: In a different way.
Speaker 5: He wasn't an every down, you know, pass rusher, but
Speaker 5: when they had him out there, he was a difference
Speaker 5: maker and led that defense all the way to a championship.
Speaker 5: So it just depends on what you see if the
Speaker 5: player goes to another place, like what do they end
Speaker 5: up being Did you make the right evaluation on where
Speaker 5: they were? Are they are they really done? Or do
Speaker 5: they still have more left in the tank. And that's
Speaker 5: why I would have the conversation with Zach to see
Speaker 5: how he feels about it, and I would trust his evaluation.
Speaker 5: If he told me I'll be good, I promise you
Speaker 5: I'll be good, I would trust that.
Speaker 4: Another thing I don't I personally right now don't know how.
Speaker 4: I have no idea where he stands right now as
Speaker 4: far as like his career, when he see himself, if
Speaker 4: he wants to continue to play, because again, when you
Speaker 4: look at also told that this game takes on your body.
Speaker 4: And he's had a good career, a really good career,
Speaker 4: just not with the accomplishment that they all want to
Speaker 4: get to. So that's the tricky part when you talk
Speaker 4: about a competitor like him, I think healthy, and let's
Speaker 4: be honest, I feel like his whole career, a lot
Speaker 4: of the years he's been here, even though he shows
Speaker 4: up at every game, he's dealing with something like all
Speaker 4: this offensive linemen. They're yeah, they're dealing with something. He's
Speaker 4: just being able to tough it out and be out
Speaker 4: there and do his job. Last year is just it
Speaker 4: took more than he expected. But I think if he
Speaker 4: was to come back another year, I think he can
Speaker 4: still be productive. But there's that point that you just
Speaker 4: talked about, Derek. It does get to that point of
Speaker 4: their career where they hit an age and it's just
Speaker 4: like inevitably, you're gonna be dealing with something else. Something
Speaker 4: new is gonna pop up, and it's hard to manage
Speaker 4: that during the season and hoping that they are as productive.
Speaker 4: And especially when you talk about these changes where you're
Speaker 4: wanting all the players to be more aggressive and play
Speaker 4: more tough. That's that's something that's very complicated. It can
Speaker 4: be very complicated. So but I'm curious to see where
Speaker 4: he stands. I'm sure we'll hear about as soon enough.
Speaker 5: The other thing I think has to be factored in
Speaker 5: here is listening to or looking at how the teams
Speaker 5: that they've particularly Adams coming from Arizona, they have their
Speaker 5: offensive lineman pulling quite a bit. Is he at a
Speaker 5: point in his career where that's something that he can
Speaker 5: do well consistently. That's another thing you have to kind
Speaker 5: of consider. It's not going to be the kind of
Speaker 5: offensive line that he's typically worked in, and so is
Speaker 5: that gonna be something that even exasperates the problem even
Speaker 5: more of him not being able to be healthy or
Speaker 5: him having to be mobile as much as you know,
Speaker 5: when you're a young guy and you can kind of
Speaker 5: get out there and run, it's gonna be a little different.
Speaker 5: So I think all that stuff has to be factored in,
Speaker 5: but I would trust his evaluation. I would have that
Speaker 5: conversation with him and trust his evaluation as well.
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Speaker 5: Let's do a little draft preview. We'll get in some
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Speaker 3: At the Star Suck a little draft a draft preview.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, if you don't know about
Speaker 5: if you've been living under a rock for the last
Speaker 5: I don't know, twenty years, you might not know that.
Speaker 3: We have a show called The Draft Show. It's an
Speaker 3: excellent show.
Speaker 5: Brian and Nick are both part of that show, and
Speaker 5: they do a lot of really good breakdowns on pretty
Speaker 5: much every player you're gonna expect to see called during
Speaker 5: the draft. So I figured we take a little bit
Speaker 5: of the and we bring it over to our show
Speaker 5: since we have two people that are on The Draft Show,
Speaker 5: and we'll let you guys give us some a taste
Speaker 5: of what happens over on the Draft Show. So I
Speaker 5: eat one each one of you guys to give me
Speaker 5: one player and kind of break down for us what
Speaker 5: you're looking at, what maybe a comp in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Just give us some background on one player that you
Speaker 5: think could be available to the Cowboys in Round one
Speaker 5: that they should be interested in.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna let me go first?
Speaker 5: Always after the last time, I mean, you're basically berating him.
Speaker 8: Of course he is, right, now, Nick does a fine
Speaker 8: job with his draft works. I wouldn't berat him too much.
Speaker 8: A Mecca Abuka from Ohio State, a wide receiveries two
Speaker 8: hundred and six pounds. My pro comp to this player,
Speaker 8: if you can imagine this is aman Ron Saint Brown
Speaker 8: from the Detroit Lions. Bring what we're talking about here.
Speaker 8: And I say this because Saint Brown is six one,
Speaker 8: He's one hundred and ninety five pounds. He's a serious athlete,
Speaker 8: and you know his family is big in his game.
Speaker 8: If you know the Saint Brown situation, Abuka is really
Speaker 8: kind of.
Speaker 2: The same way.
Speaker 8: His dad is really involved, and I mean in a
Speaker 8: positive way. This guy is an incredible athlete. I saw
Speaker 8: a special on him one time where he like, he said,
Speaker 8: I just took up golf and they showed his swing
Speaker 8: and he looks like a pro golfer. Now, I mean
Speaker 8: the way he's playing is just he's got that kind
Speaker 8: of ability and he's got ideal height and waight for
Speaker 8: the position. He's super competitive as a player. He's very
Speaker 8: aggressive with the run after catch, the body control, the strength,
Speaker 8: the power which he plays.
Speaker 2: This guy's a versatile weapon.
Speaker 8: You can use him on jet sweeps, those little pop
Speaker 8: passes that we've seen. He's a smooth route runner. He
Speaker 8: makes sharp, decisive cuts. The best routes he has are
Speaker 8: the ones that are across the middle of the field.
Speaker 8: I love when you see him catch the ball on
Speaker 8: the move and then his ability to turn it up
Speaker 8: the field. He's one of the best receivers in the
Speaker 8: country when it came to playing against man coverage. So
Speaker 8: this guy knows how to escape. But he could play
Speaker 8: on all levels of the defense. Explosive, elusive, shifty, he
Speaker 8: would be. He's used to playing as the second fiddle.
Speaker 8: The question is will he ever be a number one.
Speaker 8: There's teams that are going to have to take him
Speaker 8: potentially and make him a one, and I think he'll
Speaker 8: be just fine. But he's always kind of played in
Speaker 8: the shadows of another player. But you look at his
Speaker 8: you look at how he's how his numbers and the
Speaker 8: metrics and all the number one hundred and six targets
Speaker 8: and only had five drops and one hundred and six targets,
Speaker 8: So you know, that's kind of one of those things
Speaker 8: that they feed him the football even though he's even
Speaker 8: though he's a two, he's had some really, really nice
Speaker 8: years at Ohio State and he and he could play
Speaker 8: in a lot of different roles, and I think he
Speaker 8: would fit that role opposite of what you have with
Speaker 8: with Cede Lamb and his ability to play some of
Speaker 8: that X stuff that they need for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: It would be a nice robin to have to you know,
Speaker 7: CD's batman, as you mentioned, you know, he's he's lived
Speaker 7: in the shadows of guys throughout his time in Ohio State,
Speaker 7: whether it be Jeremiah Smith or going back to Marvin
Speaker 7: Harrison junior or even further back in early in his
Speaker 7: college career. But he is the most receiving yards of
Speaker 7: any Ohio State receiver in Ohio State history. And you
Speaker 7: think about all the names that have gone through Ohio State,
Speaker 7: that's really impressive.
Speaker 5: Real quick, how much do you think that whatever receiving
Speaker 5: options the Cowboys look at have to be able to
Speaker 5: run great routes and get separation. Because I heard this
Speaker 5: argument the other day and I think it's a valid one.
Speaker 5: One of the things we talk about seemingly a lot
Speaker 5: around here is man receivers just weren't open. There there's
Speaker 5: no separation. And I know there are bigger receivers in
Speaker 5: this draft guys that can go vertical. How much do
Speaker 5: you think it is a situation though, just based on
Speaker 5: this team and what they need that the Cowboys, if
Speaker 5: they're going to look at receiver, they need to go
Speaker 5: for some that really are great route runners and know
Speaker 5: how to create separation.
Speaker 7: If I'm understanding your question correctly, I think finding versatility
Speaker 7: to match with CDs versatility.
Speaker 6: Is that kind of what you're going for there?
Speaker 2: Well, not necessarily, I think what I want stud to
Speaker 2: get open.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it run great guys.
Speaker 2: Ris.
Speaker 5: By the way, we have some receiver. We have some receivers.
Speaker 5: There's some receivers in the NFL. I would consider CD
Speaker 5: one of them. CD is a great receiver. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: consider his greatest greatest asset being he gets separation, like
Speaker 5: he just knows how to catch the ball in track.
Speaker 8: Is one of the best quarterbacks in the league when
Speaker 8: it comes to throwing contested balls. And to your point,
Speaker 8: you know, I think a lot of it has to
Speaker 8: do Derek was scheme, you know, and and you watch
Speaker 8: I mean I watched Chip Kelly with this Ohio State offense.
Speaker 8: Now Chip Kelly is moving on to the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 8: I watched Chip Kelly with this Ohio State group and
Speaker 8: the way the crossing routes, the vertical routes, the hitches things,
Speaker 8: He's putting guys on the move. And you know that quarterback,
Speaker 8: Well Howard did a heck of a job. I mean,
Speaker 8: you where where he came from to where he was
Speaker 8: at Ohio State. He looked like a completely different quarterback
Speaker 8: playing And a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 8: the ability to scheme guys open. And you're you're one
Speaker 8: of the most talented teams in the country. You won
Speaker 8: the National championship for that reason because you have the players,
Speaker 8: You had the skill on the outside, whether it was
Speaker 8: vertical skill, whether it was crossing skill, hit skill, screen skill.
Speaker 8: You know, there's ways that you can create to get
Speaker 8: these guys open. I think this guy when I watch
Speaker 8: him play, just the smoothness that he plays and that
Speaker 8: ability to separate. But a lot of these quarterbacks in
Speaker 8: the National Football League are now having to throw contested routes.
Speaker 8: You know, it's you could scheme certain routes open, but
Speaker 8: there's some that are going to be contested plays. But
Speaker 8: that I mean, he's comfortable throwing that type of you know,
Speaker 8: is it always successful. No, is it successful in enjoy.
Speaker 2: Of the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's up of a quarterback you have you can
Speaker 5: get away with not having you get Yeah.
Speaker 8: But I'm not saying I don't want a core. I
Speaker 8: don't want receivers that don't separate. But some of these
Speaker 8: receivers that Nick and I have been talking about on
Speaker 8: the Draft show don't separate. But you absolutely would take
Speaker 8: him in the first, second, third round.
Speaker 2: You would absolutely take him.
Speaker 8: And like I said, you know, you look at you
Speaker 8: look at this these contested catches. This guy was thirty
Speaker 8: first in the country when it came to that. You
Speaker 8: think of all the wide receivers in college football, and
Speaker 8: this guy has a separate But okay, now the ball. Now,
Speaker 8: now the corners made a play on the ball, or
Speaker 8: the safety's making a play in the ball. You gotta
Speaker 8: have guys when that happens to be able to make plays.
Speaker 8: And that's why I would draft a kid like this.
Speaker 8: I think that there is so much to like about
Speaker 8: this player. The mental makeup I talked, We talked about
Speaker 8: toughness earlier, his ability to get open touchdowns, finish, you know,
Speaker 8: mentality of like, Okay, I'm not the number one guy here.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna fit in. I'm gonna do what I have
Speaker 8: to do. This kid makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 7: Nick, You're I'm gonna go with a trade back scenario
Speaker 7: in the first round here just because I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think I gotta get fancy.
Speaker 2: Huh. But the text in saynything about trade back, Snario is.
Speaker 3: Making his own.
Speaker 7: It did not because I wouldn't necessarily take this guy
Speaker 7: at twelve, but I think, okay, trade back and pick
Speaker 7: up some picks. This would be a really specific where
Speaker 7: him back to let's go to like twenty three.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, twenty that's a nice drop.
Speaker 6: Yeah it is. You're picking up some good value.
Speaker 3: You probably get loved my numbers.
Speaker 7: You probably get two maybe three picks out of that.
Speaker 7: You could you could really make something fancy with that.
Speaker 7: I'm going with Gray's abel offensive line out of North
Speaker 7: Dakota State, all right, interior guy bringing a plane and
Speaker 7: this team. It would be right guard. But I think
Speaker 7: he has the potential to play anywhere in the interior,
Speaker 7: and it would give Connor Riley, the new offensive line
Speaker 7: coach here Dallas, some flexibility on what he would want
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 6: Maybe with a.
Speaker 7: Cooper Bebie and that flexibility could extend out to the
Speaker 7: tackle position too. With Okay, let's say Tyler Guidon is
Speaker 7: having another struggling year in twenty twenty five, Okay, you
Speaker 7: have enough confidence in a guy like grays Abel to
Speaker 7: put him at left guard even and kick Tyler Smith out.
Speaker 7: That's I'm just saying. This guy gives you flexibility. This
Speaker 7: guy gives you some versatility inside. He's a bruiser, like
Speaker 7: I mentioned, versatile. He has a quick anchor. He creates
Speaker 7: a pocket depth super fast. He was one of the
Speaker 7: guys that I came way with most impressed from immobile.
Speaker 7: His strength rarely has him knocked off balance, but he
Speaker 7: does have short arms, hence the projection inside. He has
Speaker 7: played four of the five offensive line positions at his
Speaker 7: time at North Dakota State. But this is a strictly
Speaker 7: interior guy. He needs to be a little bit better
Speaker 7: in the run block category. I think that's probably where
Speaker 7: he needs the most improvement coming into the NFL, and
Speaker 7: my my NFL player camp for him. Funny enough, another
Speaker 7: North Dakota State guy, just because it reminded me of
Speaker 7: him when he was coming out, was Cody Mauk out
Speaker 7: of Tampa Bay who's now starting for them at right
Speaker 7: guard and has been really really solid for them. And again,
Speaker 7: where where he would fit. I'd see him at right guard,
Speaker 7: but really wherever you would want in the interior.
Speaker 6: I like this player.
Speaker 7: And going back to Connor Riley, before he was at
Speaker 7: Kansas State, he was at North Dakota State. So there's
Speaker 7: a lot of uh, you know, background that he could
Speaker 7: pick up on Zabel as well that I think would
Speaker 7: be able to translate to this building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy.
Speaker 8: I Nick nailed this kid, and I think you could
Speaker 8: play him in a power scheme, you could play him
Speaker 8: in a zone scheme, and I think he'll be just fine.
Speaker 8: He's got agility, he easily makes cut off blocks, he
Speaker 8: makes reach blocks, I mean the knee bend as a
Speaker 8: pass protector. You can watch him against Colorado to open
Speaker 8: today if you're thinking about we, oh wait a minute,
Speaker 8: he plays at North Dakota State.
Speaker 2: By the way, North Dakota State. They're folks.
Speaker 8: They live here in Frisco because they're in that National
Speaker 8: championship game.
Speaker 3: Every single year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think you're you have.
Speaker 8: Green Bay Packer fans in town with that color scheme
Speaker 8: that they got, But this guy. This guy is a
Speaker 8: good one. He could play tackle, he could play guard.
Speaker 8: They've used him at some center. He didn't look uncomfortable
Speaker 8: playing that way. The trade back scenario, there's a lot
Speaker 8: of people talking about him as a late one.
Speaker 2: Type of a player.
Speaker 8: So where Nick dropped you back to, I'm sure he
Speaker 8: picked up some good draft capital along the way. He
Speaker 8: got our fourth round pick back some way, maybe got
Speaker 8: us an extra third along the way. So yeah, but
Speaker 8: a player like that, absolutely, at twenty four, you would
Speaker 8: consider a guy like this. He's he's risen up the
Speaker 8: draft boards that much, but it's not just rising on
Speaker 8: his own. This is the ability when you really really
Speaker 8: watch him and then you watch him against the good
Speaker 8: competition where he's shown up.
Speaker 4: I like everything he said in inch, but then he
Speaker 4: just casually threw him their own and he needs to
Speaker 4: improve on the run block. And then you kept talking
Speaker 4: and then that you lost me right there, I mean,
Speaker 4: does not give you any pause, And he's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: hold up, this is an area that you we gotta
Speaker 4: make sure if we're this guy.
Speaker 2: I think this guy sells as a drive blocker. I do, okay.
Speaker 2: I think there's some things When Nick said it.
Speaker 8: I was kind of like going, I don't know, man,
Speaker 8: there's things when like you say, when I'm talking about
Speaker 8: the scoops, the reaches, things like that, but there are
Speaker 8: things that he does as a drive blocker getting into guys. Now,
Speaker 8: there's one of my one of my favorite players is
Speaker 8: Lampkin from North Carolina. You talking about stay on guys,
Speaker 8: center staying, but he's only five to ten. Here's a
Speaker 8: five and seventy five pound center guard from North Carolina.
Speaker 8: He's he blows away any metrics that you I've never
Speaker 8: seen a player like this, But we talk about a
Speaker 8: guy that sticks on to the guy and finish. You know,
Speaker 8: Gray's Abel And I'm really again, I appreciate Nick bringing
Speaker 8: him up because I think that's the spot that Gray's
Speaker 8: Abel is probably going to go at. And I do
Speaker 8: think he's probably got a little bit better run blocking traits.
Speaker 8: I know I see it that way. And you know
Speaker 8: in the knee been with the pass protection and all that.
Speaker 8: This guy is going to be a valuable player for somebody.
Speaker 8: He should have He should have very well been playing
Speaker 8: in a Big ten school. He you know, they and
Speaker 8: and and scouts, Hey, we missed players.
Speaker 2: We miss him. We were missing when recruiting.
Speaker 8: I think this kid's got that ability where he could
Speaker 8: have played at a Wisconsin or played it a Michigan
Speaker 8: State or me even played in Michigan.
Speaker 2: The way that he plays, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I probably should have furthered My point there. The reason
Speaker 7: I say that is when he when he comes down
Speaker 7: on his run block, he gets really wide and he
Speaker 7: can get grabby, and he's he's had holding penalties called
Speaker 7: in that in that area. So that's why I say
Speaker 7: the red flag. Well that's.
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith was a holder too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take him again, give me another one, I'll
Speaker 3: take him all. I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Jones.
Speaker 3: We'll be back next week.
Speaker 5: Uh is happening next week, so we'll get into some
Speaker 5: of the information around the combine, some of the things
Speaker 5: we're looking at as we enter that. I think when
Speaker 5: we have our show that they won't have started. I
Speaker 5: don't think they'll start at workouts by then, but it'll
Speaker 5: be close. It'll be starting around Thursday, I think is
Speaker 5: when they'll get started. We'll have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4: Y'all hear next week.
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not saying so whatever.
Speaker 3: You know you were going to you're gonna come bye
Speaker 3: toa Oh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm crying right now because the show going to
Speaker 8: the combine and it ain't my show.
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 5: Never mind, I never mind, never mind, I'm not we'll
Speaker 5: talk about that, right.
Speaker 3: I don't wanna. I don't want to take you to
Speaker 3: a bad place.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, guys, Jones. We'll be back next week
Speaker 3: or maybe the week after. We'll see so then, for
Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Brian brought us to Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.
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