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Speaker 1: You know, for a long I mean basically most of

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Speaker 1: now that age poorly immediately, and it got even worse

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Speaker 1: this year because he was unplayable. He looked like a

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Speaker 1: USFL quarterback, which is insane because watching him in college,

432
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Speaker 1: his instincts, his ability to manipulate the pocket. I just

433
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Speaker 1: thought a lot of things would translate, and it turns

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Speaker 1: out one thing I underestimated is God, he looks small.

435
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: He just feels like one of the smallest players in

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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, definitely at that position. So

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Speaker 1: I think he has two options now, and I think

438
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Speaker 1: one of them can get really dire. But let's start

439
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Speaker 1: with the positive. One. He can change the course of

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Speaker 1: his career if he comes back and just looks solid

441
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: and wins a couple of games. One, he can help

442
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Speaker 1: them avoid get the number one overall pick in drafting

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. And two, he can just at least validate. Okay,

444
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: we took a step back. It's like going on time out.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're a kid or getting grounded, it's

446
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Speaker 1: supposed to like give you a reset. You're supposed to

447
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Speaker 1: go away for a minute, go on, go on time out.

448
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Speaker 1: Get suspended. If you're get in a little trouble at school,

449
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: come back new guy. Sorry, I'll wear it. It was

450
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Speaker 1: on me, change man, here, change kid, which rarely happens.

451
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Speaker 1: It's like I'm a big mob movie guy, so I

452
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: follow so much mob stuff, like on Instagrams. It's a

453
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: tried and true formula. Dude gets in trouble, goes to jail,

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00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: comes out a couple of years later, he's like a

455
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: change man, and like three minutes later he's back wheeling

456
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: and dealing with his boys. And then he gets arrested again.

457
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: But he really has two options. It's either play well

458
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Speaker 1: and change the discourse about him, which has been one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent fair. Again they benched him for a reason

460
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: he was unplayable, or you kind of become Trey Lance.

461
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Like Trey Lance is a third quarterback. He can't win

462
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Speaker 1: backup jobs. And I think if Bryce Young continues to

463
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Speaker 1: look like he did before he was bench for Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you're looking at. You're looking at

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Speaker 1: a third stringer. So this guy, within a couple of

466
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Speaker 1: years can go from the number one pick starting quarterback

467
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Speaker 1: to he couldn't be any worse. He's a he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that we bring to camp if he's traded or

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Speaker 1: cut to compete for our backup job. And right now,

470
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Speaker 1: if he were to look like he looked earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season, you could not make him your backup quarterback

472
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Speaker 1: because as we see all over the NFL, all it

473
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Speaker 1: takes one ankle, spring, one spring shoulder, one broken finger,

474
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Speaker 1: and you can't grip a ball and your backup's playing

475
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Speaker 1: not just in that game, but he might have to

476
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Speaker 1: start several games. And if he's the type player and

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Speaker 1: he keeps proving what he's been in the NFL, I

478
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Speaker 1: can't even compete with Like he couldn't complete wheel routes

479
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Speaker 1: in out routes, Like do you even have a chance

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Speaker 1: in the NFL as just to make a roster at quarterback.

481
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Speaker 1: Obviously you got to know the playbook. You gotta be

482
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Speaker 1: a smart guy, and you gotta be tough. But like

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Speaker 1: from a playing standpoint, I don't need my backup to

484
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Speaker 1: be super dynamic to hit go routes and post routes

485
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Speaker 1: and run around, but I do need you if I

486
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Speaker 1: have to start you for a short period of time

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Speaker 1: to be able to hit basic passes. An out route

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Speaker 1: on third and seven, a wheel route on second, and

489
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: eight a slant route that's open against the specific coverage

490
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Speaker 1: that we consistently call. Right, I understand that the big

491
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: play potential, if I have a good starter, is going

492
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Speaker 1: to drop dramatically. No shit, he's the backup quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: I do have to be able to function as an

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Speaker 1: offense to hopefully my defense carries us. We run the

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Speaker 1: ball and ideally you attempt less than twenty five passes

496
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Speaker 1: on the games you have to start, but I need

497
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Speaker 1: you to complete fifteen to eighteen of them. And you

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00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: watch Bryce Young, He's like, God, this isn't even close.

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Speaker 1: So I'm fascinated to watch this play out. I change

500
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: my opinion on him really really fast because of a

501
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: size and listen, Kyler's tiny. But you watch Kyler, you go, well,

502
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Speaker 1: he's the fastest guy in the field. His arm strength

503
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Speaker 1: looks like fucking mahomes, you know, like his really only

504
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Speaker 1: not because he's short, but he makes up for it

505
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Speaker 1: with all these elite athletic traits. And you watch Price,

506
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: you go, well, he's not very fast. His arm looks terrible,

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Speaker 1: he's not very accurate. It's like he doesn't really bring

508
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Speaker 1: anything to the table. Tangibly. Maybe he's a good guy,

509
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Speaker 1: maybe he knows the offense and you like him in

510
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: the meeting room. But like all that stuff's great, but

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna play like you got to bring some

512
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Speaker 1: tangible stuff to the field. So this is a big

513
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: moment for him because to me, if he plays well

514
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: and just shows something. And this is a tough spot too,

515
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Speaker 1: Like he's going on the road to Denver, who is

516
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Speaker 1: not a great team, but their defense is really good

517
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Speaker 1: and they're coming off somewhat of a mini bye because

518
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Speaker 1: they played on Thursday. So can he go on the

519
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: road in an environment? I mean, this is probably one

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Speaker 1: of the more optimistic Denver seasons. It feels like in

521
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: years right, their fans think like, why can't we win

522
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Speaker 1: nine ten games and get a wildcard spot even if

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Speaker 1: we're out in the first round. What an improvement that

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Speaker 1: is from the last several year years. So this is

525
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. It could either unravel fast or you

526
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Speaker 1: could earn like, oh shitty, this guy's that served him well.

527
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Speaker 1: And if I was a betting man, I would bet

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna go well. But and I probably I

529
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Speaker 1: plan on betting against them, even though it's a massive

530
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Speaker 1: line just because from what I've seen, it's been horrendous. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's bang out a couple other quick things. Shanahan says

532
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: that McCaffrey not gonna play this week, should or potentially

533
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: could practice next week. I do believe this is one

534
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Speaker 1: of the more mysterious injuries we've ever seen, because clearly

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00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: it's more than just like achilles soreness. Obviously it was

536
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Speaker 1: in both achilles, but to go to almost Halloween, I

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Speaker 1: guess by the time they play next week, we'll be

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Speaker 1: after Halloween and we haven't seen Christian McCaffrey. Not what

539
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I expected. Honestly, I was pretty bullish in training camp.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, just holding him out. Kyle keeps saying he

541
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Speaker 1: could play if they had do, and then by the

542
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Speaker 1: time the regular season came, it got worse. So this

543
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Speaker 1: is one of the big I would say X factors

544
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Speaker 1: in the NFL that if he can come back and

545
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Speaker 1: just be normal. I mean, you talk about the trade

546
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Speaker 1: deadlines like adding Christop McCaffrey, but it's hard to be

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Speaker 1: optimistic when I've seen so many players, I mean, we

548
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: all have that have achille soreness, that have achille sorness

549
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Speaker 1: and then the thing rips. So it's just something to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on whenever he does come back, like

551
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Speaker 1: is he completely fine? And then to me, the big

552
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: test would be if he does play in a game

553
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Speaker 1: and does look good, what's the next day, like, can

554
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Speaker 1: he walk? Is a soreness gone? Is he just back

555
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: to normal? So the other thing that McCarthy was asked

556
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Speaker 1: about Jerry talking shit about his play calling and bad designs,

557
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: and Mike was like, yeah, I guess we'll just have

558
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: to go back and look. I mean, it's just it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: It's we talked about it yesterday, and I heard Albert

560
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Breer with Colin today that he thinks Jerry takes a

561
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: lot of shit for just kind of willy neely saying

562
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Speaker 1: this stuff. And he thinks some of this is like

563
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: sly like a fox old guy, you know, holding out

564
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: on CD and Dak trying to light a fire under them,

565
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: saying all this stuff about Mike trying to light a

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Speaker 1: fire under them. And I do agree that that's possibility

567
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Speaker 1: that he's trying to kind of play some motivational tactics

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Speaker 1: I don't quite know what, like saying your play calling

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Speaker 1: sucks does to really motivate anybody, because I do think

570
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: it's fair to assume that Mike McCarthy so far this

571
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: season has been doing the best of his ability to

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00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: get guys open and scheme plays. Like I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's tried any less hard on a Wednesday or a Tuesday,

574
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Speaker 1: designing the game plan Monday, breaking down film with his

575
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: offensive staff. Then he would have two years ago, with

576
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Speaker 1: years remaining on his contract, when he had winning records,

577
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what good that serves the totality of the operation

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Speaker 1: beside like, yeah, listen, there's heat on my feet here,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm walking on you know, on hot coals because

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00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't have a contract. Like if that's not motivation enough,

582
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: like clearly you got the wrong guy. And that's kind

583
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: of what it's feeling like that if this continues and

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00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: they lose, that it's just a foregone conclusion that Mike

585
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Speaker 1: McCarthy will not be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys anymore.

586
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Speaker 1: Robert Sala was in Green Bay today and Lafleur was

587
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Speaker 1: asked about it and said that he will work with

588
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Speaker 1: the offense, you know, be like the Sometimes coaches do this.

589
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: I remember when when I first got into radio, Harbad

590
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: did this with Eric man Gini. He had Eric man

591
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: Genie as like on the offensive side of the ball,

592
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: working like a defensive guy, helping the offense what to see.

593
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Coaches kind of love doing that shit. But ultimately I

594
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: think it's just a really good friend taking care of

595
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: his guy. And I would expect Robert Sala, I think

596
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: it's still owed money. Next year, if he does want

597
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: to coach, he will be on the Packer staff. And

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00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: if this Packer team continues to do well and Jeff

599
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: Hafley gets a job as a young defensive coordinator who's

600
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: been a head coach at Boston College, that Robert Sala

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00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: would be his next defensive coordinator. Last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara. Every once in a while, it's like satan

603
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: and shambles, you know, then they were my team to

604
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: win the division, which clearly isn't gonna happen. And then

605
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: you're just like, this is a season from hell. And

606
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you look and it's like, oh,

607
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Speaker 1: we've signed Alvin Kamara, who looks awesome, by the way,

608
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Speaker 1: to a two year twenty five million dollar contract extension.

609
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: You're like, that's kind of random. Now, I think ultimately

610
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want on your team, that

611
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: is a winning player, who's you know, one of the

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00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: best in the NFL. And when you do this stuff

613
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Speaker 1: for a team that's, you know, historically in cap hell,

614
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: in a weird way, it actually lightens your cap because

615
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: you're able to keep pushing money back. So I would

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Speaker 1: imagine this is the type move where you go, listen,

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Speaker 1: I want Alvin Kamar on my team next year. We

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Speaker 1: give them this contract extension. It actually frees up space

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Speaker 1: for us in the offseason. But I didn't see h

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Speaker 1: October twenty third with the Saints several games under five

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Speaker 1: hundred starting Spencer Rattler, No hope in sight. Yeah, contract

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Speaker 1: extension here you go, Alvin. But hey, it's New Orleans

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Speaker 1: for you. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff two f's

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00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: it's my name? Whoever thought of the at in front

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00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: of all the handles And like Instagram and Twitter, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a genius, kind of differentiates everything from Shane

627
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: question for the bag. Last Sunday, Mahomes had a long

628
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: run where he was giving himself up on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: so the defensive player stopped. Then he turned up the

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00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: sideline for a big game, the defensive player would have

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Speaker 1: been called for a late hit if he would have

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00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: hit him, because Patrick gets every one of those calls,

633
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: even if he's sniffing the line. Think it's unfair for

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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to get protected when it serves them, but they

635
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: can take advantage of it. He should be called down

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00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: the second he slows down and pretends to give himself up.

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Speaker 1: Curious your take on the solution. I think Bosa, when

638
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: asked about it after the game, essentially said the same

639
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: thing that it's completely unfair because these guys are taught

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00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: now that you can't hit them on the sideline. It

641
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: was the longest run of Mahomes' career, so I'm in

642
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: total agreement. Once you get close to the sideline as

643
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback and you do that cutback, the ball should

644
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: be down because you get every other advantage. These guys

645
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: slim blow up and don't touch you. So I'm with you.

646
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: It is completely unfair to the defensive players. What are

647
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: they supposed to do? Because you're right, if someone in

648
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine or safeties were hitting what if the

649
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: young safety Mustafa would have lit his world up. We

650
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: know exactly what would have happened. He would have got

651
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty. Hell, he might have been thrown

652
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: out of the game. So I don't blame Mahomes for

653
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: doing it. You're just taking advantage. It's like telling my accountant, like,

654
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: that's loophole's fucking use it. I want to keep that

655
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: money and I want to give it away. So until

656
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: they fix that loophole, it's going to continue to be used.

657
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I've heard rumors about the Vikings potentially trading for Stafford.

658
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: If this to help a clear path for JJ McCarthy

659
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: when he gets back, or is there more to it

660
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: with them, Well, obviously Cooper Cup is on the trading block.

661
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: The problem for Cooper Cup is they want a really

662
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: high pick because they value him a lot. And if

663
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: you look at his game logs from the last three years,

664
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: he's missed a ton of games and he's no longer

665
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: the dominant player that he once was because he's always injured.

666
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: So like DeVante gets traded and he goes for what

667
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: a third Well, the last two years he's got over

668
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: one hundred catches and I just think even DeAndre Hopkins

669
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: last year had seventy five catches. Cooper Cups injured two

670
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: years ago. He's currently injured. I think he's coming back now,

671
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: like he just injured a lot. So like you would

672
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: have to be high on crack cocaine to give a

673
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: second round pick for Cooper Cup. And that is the

674
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: reports of what people want. But I think people go, well,

675
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: if Cooper Cup's on the block and they're kind of

676
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: resetting this thing, what about Matt Stafford. Well, the connection's

677
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: easy because Kevin O'Connell was with the Rams with Matt Stafford,

678
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 1: so they know each other. My question would be it'd

679
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: be pretty cutthroat that they've had all off season, all

680
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: training camp, and now all season with Donald and they've

681
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: had success. They literally just lost their first game, which

682
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: they easily could have won. So if Donald would have

683
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: been a flop, totally understand it. Says trade for him,

684
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: figure it out later. I think sometimes in the NFL,

685
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: more than these other sports, you just live in the

686
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: moment because you're not really especially if you're Kevin O'Connell

687
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: and your Flores and you have this team, it's like,

688
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: could we make the NFC championship game. You're not worried

689
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: about JJ McCarthy's feelings or what are we gonna We'll

690
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: figure that out when we come to it. What's the

691
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, Matt Stafford starts for US next year

692
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and JJ backs him up, and if Stafford gets hurt,

693
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: JJ just comes in. So I think it would be

694
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: one of the Stafford's better player than Sam Donald obviously,

695
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: but it's kind of working. And to me, this is

696
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: where Tomlin gets a lot of credit. He knew his

697
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: locker room, he knew Fields wasn't good enough as a passer,

698
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: and while Russell is not as good as he once was,

699
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: is way better in fields at throwing the go route

700
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: and the ability to get pickings involved. And that clearly

701
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: changed their offense, which then opens up their run game,

702
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: which the running backs are healthy and they slice and

703
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: dice the Jets. But like, if you did make this move,

704
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: you would have to acknowledge, Yeah, I don't think the

705
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: guys love Sam Darnald, which definitely doesn't feel the case,

706
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: like that's not Sam Donald's demo. People like the guy,

707
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: so that that would be totally would get it if

708
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: you weren't if you were three and three, it's like

709
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: we need a spark. I think it would be pretty

710
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: and I get it's pro sports, but I'd be I'd

711
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: be a little surprised if that happened. I haven't looked

712
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: at the obviously, Stafford makes a ton of money. Do

713
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: you know what I think the Rams want to do.

714
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: I think they want to blow it up so they

715
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: can kind of They've already kind of reset it with

716
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: a lot of younger players. Their defense is really young,

717
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback and kind of pivot. The problem is

718
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: McVeigh so good it would be hard for them ever

719
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: to win like three or four games, Like they'll always

720
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: end up winning six or seven even in worst case scenario.

721
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: It's clear Kyle is having a down year. But something

722
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: that hasn't talked about much is how many offensive coaches

723
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: he has lost since he's been a head coach of

724
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Do you think that is affecting

725
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: his game planning and calls? Well, I think part of

726
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: being a young star head coach McVeigh Kyle Lafleur is

727
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: you're going to lose a lot of coaches, especially when

728
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: your staff is young. You know, the one thing Kyle

729
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: had is a lot of young dudes. There were his dudes, Slowick, Kubiak,

730
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, right Lafleur's brother who went with Sala, Like

731
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: these these aren't like sixty year old retreads, like these

732
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: are young, hungry guys itching to become OC's. So like,

733
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: you get to mold those guys and do everything you want,

734
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: and they become reflections of you. And when you lose

735
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: those guys, like you're gonna miss every once in a while, Right,

736
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna hire a guy to take over for McDaniel

737
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: or to take over for Slowik, who might not be

738
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: as good. It's human nature. If you hire ten straight people,

739
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: some are gonna be better than others, even if you're

740
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: great at hiring, just based on the candidate pool. And

741
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the other thing with a candidate pool is like a

742
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: lot of guys maybe he would want are under contract

743
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have access to because he's not hiring

744
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: you to call plays. He can give you titles passing

745
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: game coordinator, run game coordinator, quarterback coach, assistant head coach.

746
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: But like, I can't steal anyone if I'm not making

747
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: you a coordinator, so which he's not, because he's the

748
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: play caller. I do think though, Yeah, I don't know

749
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: how to quantify that, Like it's hard to put a

750
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: tangible value on what that means one way or the other.

751
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: But I think Kyle's has been bad in the red zone,

752
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: Like is he just having kind of an off year?

753
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: Is his offense a little out of sink? Is it

754
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: all tied together? I think it's very, very possible. But

755
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're the boss. Is

756
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: on you, Like Andy Reid lost a lot of coaches,

757
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: Belichick lost a lot of dudes, Like you get paid

758
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: all that money for a reason. Jim Harboss lost a

759
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: shitload of coaches over the last fifteen years. Same with

760
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: John I mean, they get paid a lot of money

761
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: for a reason. It's on you to figure it out.

762
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: It's a hard part about being the boss. Question for

763
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: the bag, big, big Vikings fan, what do you think

764
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: that Viking should do with Sam Darnold, who has played

765
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: an Elite level four out of the first five games.

766
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I elite would be a little strong for the Lions game.

767
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: I would go elite level the first three. I would

768
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: say the Jets game not, and I would say the

769
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: Lions game, like really good quarterback play. I wouldn't go elite,

770
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: but I hear what you're saying. I know we are

771
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: only going into week seven of the season, but you

772
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: mentioned with Coward that teams do these conversations very early. Well,

773
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: think about it, like whatever business you're in, you kind

774
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: of always talk about everything. You talk about short term,

775
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: you talk about long term. You're just constantly having these conversations.

776
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I've said it and I'll say it again. The conversations

777
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: that like the GM and his scouts would have, or

778
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: the scouts and the offensive coordinator have in their offices today,

779
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: aren't that much different than the ones you and I

780
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: would have if we cracked a couple of beers watched

781
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: the game to night. I don't even know what games

782
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: on tonight, not I guess the NBA starting to night,

783
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: but just bullshitting' about football, Like it's the same things,

784
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: like what do you think about Sam right? Should we

785
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: keep him next year? Like what do you think is

786
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: JJ gonna be ready? Like you're constantly having those conversations.

787
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: It's just they have the power to extend them, not

788
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: extend them. That's back to the question about Stafford, that

789
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: the only way they would trade for Stafford is because

790
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: their belief in Sam is nowhere near as high as

791
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: the way he's played, and they think it's smoking mirrors.

792
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Of course, we drafted McCarthy. But my argument is that

793
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: letting Sam Donald walk and saving thirty or forty million

794
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: off the cap doesn't guarantee JJ will play at an

795
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: elite level in twenty five, especially coming off a season

796
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: ending injury and taking the fields for the first time

797
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: in non preseason action at the highest level of football.

798
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: It seems risky to me to go that route. I

799
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: personally would sign Donald if he keeps up even eighty

800
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: percent of this level. I'm kind of with you. I

801
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: think a lot is going to be determined about obviously

802
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: how he plays in November and December, and then in

803
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: what he looks like in the playoffs. Because let's be real,

804
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: if you guys win the division and win a playoff

805
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: game and are in the NFC Championship game, even if

806
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: he just plays okay in that game and you lose,

807
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: you're just gonna get rid of him for a rookie. Now, Also,

808
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: like what's his price point? Like, do we get a

809
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones contract. He's making ten million dollars this year,

810
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: So if he plays, He's got twelve touchdowns and five picks.

811
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: So let's say he ends the season and he is

812
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: sixty six percent, which is I would say, you know,

813
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: pre softness of the NFL is closer to sixty. Like

814
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: he's not. I wouldn't call him mister accurate though he's

815
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: made some big time throws. Let's say he throws thirty

816
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year and has eleven picks. What is the

817
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: likelihood next year of JJ McCarthy doing that? Right, Who's

818
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: essentially just going to be a rookie? Played in a

819
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: couple was it two preseason games or just one? He

820
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: did make some sweet plays in the first preseason game played.

821
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: But the chance is that a guy who's never played

822
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL in regular season games is gonna throw

823
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: thirty or have the ability to throw thirty plus touchdowns

824
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: feels pretty extreme, especially factoring in like well Caleb, Well,

825
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: why I'm watching Caleb throw a bunch of touchdowns or

826
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: Jaden games throw a bunch of touchdowns? Well, it's like, yeah,

827
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: in college, they were asked carry my ass, chuck that

828
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: bad boy around like they were used to playing like that,

829
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: where Sam's kind of the opposite. He comes in playing

830
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty nineteen. Man is a game, brother,

831
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the thing was talking about this stuff,

832
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, and people get so up at arms like

833
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: you said this. Now you're taking it back, like, yeah,

834
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: all the shit's fluid. Things change by the week, by

835
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: the month. It's like stocks. This is stock market on grass.

836
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Things go up and things go down. And right now

837
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: his stock is clearly up. But the reason like Apple

838
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: or Google or some of the costco like they're up forever, right,

839
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: they have some downturns, but for the majority you invest

840
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: in them over the last ten years, they go up.

841
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: Same thing with like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and

842
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like for the large with guys like this,

843
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of unknown. Did he just turn

844
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: around his career. He's gonna be a good player. I

845
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: like him now. Would I sign him to the Daniel

846
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Jones contract today? Probably not? But you would also risk

847
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Like what if the season ends and he throws thirty

848
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: four touchdowns and you are the number one seed? How

849
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: much does it cost then? Are we talking like two

850
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: in numbers? Is that what he would get on the

851
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: open market? Is that what the Raiders or a team

852
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: like that Seattle like who would pay him? So it

853
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: gets very risky. They're in a good spot in the

854
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: short term because it got Sam Darnold right and they

855
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: drafted a quarterback, but they're in a weird spot in

856
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: the long because the dude they drafted needed some work.

857
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: Even if he wasn't playing, A practice would have been

858
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: huge for him. Hurt his knee out for the season,

859
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: and this player is not under contract now I'd have

860
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: to text around, like I guess, worst case, if you

861
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: got into a pint, you could franchise him. Do you

862
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma could hire Joe Brady as their offensive coordinator?

863
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: He will always play second fiddle to Josh Allen in Buffalo,

864
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: But if you could turn around oklahoma shit show of

865
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: an offense and have them competing next year, he would

866
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: get one hundred percent of the credit. Well, here's the

867
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: thing in the NFL. If you're an offensive coordinator with

868
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: a star quarterback, that job is better than any offensive

869
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: coordinator job in college. I've always thought every NFL job,

870
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: even the worst ones, are better than college jobs like Ohio, State, Texas,

871
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: you name it, are better than the Jacks. I think

872
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: with money, I think it's changed a little bit. Like

873
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: you could argue the Ohio State job, the Texas job, now,

874
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: the Georgia job. What Alabama had was sab in forever

875
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: is a better job than the Jacks, is a better

876
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: job than the Raiders. So there are we could argue

877
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: on what that number is. But there are definitely some

878
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 1: college jobs that I would understand, Like I would rather

879
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: have the Ohio State job than that job. But if

880
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a coordinator at both spots, being

881
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: the coordinator for Josh Allen is better than any coordinator

882
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: job in college, every freaking one. And honestly, it's not close.

883
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Because if I stay with Josh Allen and we win

884
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: like we're doing, and we get hot in the playoffs

885
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: and we're in the AFC Championship Game or we make

886
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, or hell, we win one, my careers

887
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: changed for and I'm gonna be head coach in the

888
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: NFL and have my pick of the litter in college.

889
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: So I think the question mark is would you hire

890
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: Joe Brady? I saw Venables is Listen, this is the

891
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: season from hell. Like they ain't gonna change. They have

892
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: too many injuries. Talking to my guy on the sideline, Well,

893
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: he was on the sideline. I was up against the

894
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: wall because you boy didn't have sideline pass for the game.

895
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: Didn't want to ask, what wasn't trying to A lot

896
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: going on, Like the injuries they've had are insane. So

897
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: I think Venables gets next year to kind of prove,

898
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: Like you know, he's had two of three losing seasons.

899
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: Last year was good, but his first year and obviously

900
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: this year disaster. Why couldn't Joe Brady be the head

901
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: coach there? I mean, assuming he even wants to mess

902
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: around with college, but I don't think you leave for

903
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: a college offensive coordinator job. If you're an NFL offensive

904
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: coordinator job with Josh Allen as your quarterback, especially with

905
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: the defensive head coach, like you get a lot of

906
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: you get a lot of leeway in that situation. Big

907
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: Packer fan, I am loving the gun slinging style of love.

908
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: It's possible he's gonna break my heart in the playoffs

909
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: with the with an untimely pick, but for now I'm

910
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: enjoying his just let it rip style of play, especially

911
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: after the more cautious, risk adverse style of Aaron in

912
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: his later years. At least obviously turning over the ball

913
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: is not ideal. But do you think there's a tide

914
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: turning in the NFL regarding interceptions. I know you're a

915
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: guy who likes to swing big in life. Is it

916
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: throwing more interceptions over the course of the season if

917
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: you're also constantly pushing the ball down the field as

918
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: opposed to more conservative dink and dunk play. I think

919
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: no one has a problem with interceptions as a coaching

920
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: staff if you're also making a lot of explosive plays

921
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: and scoring a lot of touchdowns, So interceptions kill you

922
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: in the red zone, I would say an interception in

923
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: the red zone. As rich gannon one said on a

924
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: broadcast not my words, that he was told by a coach.

925
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: He didn't give the coach his name, it's fair to

926
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: assume it's when he was on the Raiders. Might not

927
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: even have been a head coach, so it might not

928
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: have been Gruden. That throwing a pick in the red

929
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: zone is the equivalent of a baby dying, and so

930
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: On my other podcast that I had for years with

931
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 1: Guy Haberman, we used to call it the baby zone,

932
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: that when you throw a pick, you know in the

933
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: baby zone, it's a problem. And again not my words this.

934
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: He said it on CBS that I think it was

935
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: during a Raiders game, or might have been during a

936
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: Niner game when Jimmy Garoppolo threw a pick in the

937
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: red zone. But to me, red zone picks are bad,

938
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: that they are killers. But like when you're just driving

939
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: and you're you're letting it rip and I can live

940
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: with it. I also think the timing of interceptions, right,

941
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a time in place if it's a

942
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: second quarter and it's ten to fourteen and I'm fucking

943
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: just free lancing and making plays, like I can live

944
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: with it in the fourth quarter of a tie game

945
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: or a game where I'm down three and there's six

946
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: minutes left, and this might be one of my last possessions.

947
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: I do need to be more cautious, but I can

948
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: always handle picks when you're throwing a lot of touchdowns.

949
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: Like if you say, hey threw fourteen interceptions, wasn't there

950
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: a big difference of it's like, well, he only threw

951
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns, or it's like, hey, through thirty eight touchdowns.

952
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: It's like these things aren't equal. And I think that's

953
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: a huge part of like part of with the denk

954
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: and dunk style, like you're just not going to score

955
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: as many points. I feel like for the most part,

956
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: the Packers are a threat to score thirty points in

957
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: every game. And that's with him turning the ball over.

958
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I think one thing that the gun slinging style is

959
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: throwing the ball over the middle. Willy nilly is I

960
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: would imagine something that drives La floor nuts. Every once

961
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: in a while, you get tricked on a pick on

962
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: an out route and a guy playing zone, then he's

963
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: playing man or you think he's in man. The underneath

964
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: guy drops in the zone like okay, it's football. It's hard.

965
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys drive big cars or nice cars

966
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: and live in big houses too. To me, some of

967
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: the picks he throws over the middle of the field.

968
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: We gotta be a little cautious because when you do

969
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: play a great team like you're playing the Lions ENTI game,

970
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: that could be the difference, and that's the difference why

971
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: you don't win the division. Or I haven't looked at

972
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: your schedule, but like how many great defenses you play,

973
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: let's pull them up really quick, the Green Bay Packers.

974
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: So you play the Jaguars this week. Then you play

975
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: the Lions. That's a pretty big game at Lambeau. Then

976
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: you go to Chicago, that's a big game. Then you

977
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: play the forty nine Ers. It's a big game. Dolphins.

978
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: We'll see if Tua can resurrect them, but you're you

979
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: guys are way better than them. Then you go at Detroit,

980
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: at Seattle Saint Stink end with at Minnesota versus the Bears.

981
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: So I think in these divisional games, like, you guys

982
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: still control your own destiny. You guys can still win

983
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: the division, you can still be the number one seed

984
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: in the conference. You're actually in great shape, even though

985
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: it's weird, like you guys technically are in third place

986
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 1: in the division. I guess you lost to Minnesota at home,

987
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: but you get them again. And I actually think you

988
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: guys are pretty built to play in a dome. So

989
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: right now you've only you've only played the one divisional game. Yeah.

990
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: I like gun Slingers, but I do think there's a

991
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: time in a place, and like you said, like what

992
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: Rogers was doing later on his career, one it was

993
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people sneaky criticize him like

994
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Aaron you can take some shots here. But it was

995
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: working and you guys were winning. But then he got

996
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Sometimes, like Aaron you gott, I got

997
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: a little rip lifelong Broncos fan. Here. Should fans be

998
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: worried about Peyton's offense? It looks so simple at times,

999
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: and I believe he is the lowest motion rate in

1000
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: the NFL by a long shot. Are his times of

1001
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: being a premier offensive mine over? Uh? I would say

1002
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: he's been he was hand. I can't judge him last year,

1003
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna throw away last year. And I said

1004
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: this if you listen to the podcast after the Thursday

1005
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: night game, you guys knew after the preseason night some

1006
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm guilty. Sometimes I get excited. I was like, God,

1007
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Bo looks good, and then I've been a little disappointed

1008
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: in the regular season. I actually think for the most

1009
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: part he's been below average. Like you said, they're not

1010
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: asking him to do much. And I even thought in

1011
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: that Saints game, it's like, God, he yes a series

1012
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: where it's like, is this the biggest project you've ever seen?

1013
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: It looks like he's processing slow. It just looks off,

1014
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: which is weird. No one in the history of college

1015
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: football has started more games. And it's not like he

1016
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: played at UC Davis and some small school in Texas.

1017
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy started at Auburn and then Oregon,

1018
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: so like basically the overwhelming majority of his conference games

1019
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: for five years mattered a lot. I mean, this guy's

1020
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: played in massive games, from the Iron Bowl against LSU,

1021
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: against the Born Washington against Utah. Like, this guy's been

1022
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: playing real team for a long time in front of

1023
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: millions of people and massive crowds. And then you watch

1024
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: him in the NFL. He's an older player and you're like, eh, listen,

1025
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: I understand why they did it. But I know a

1026
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: lot of people that were not that high in bo Nicks,

1027
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people that think Sean Payton, Yeah,

1028
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: he's pretty arrogant. And he said over and over, we

1029
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: think we got the best quarterback in the draft, and

1030
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: so far watching like, I actually think the quarterback has

1031
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: limited now it's football, it's hard. He's not as physically gifted,

1032
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: Like there's a reason that other guys went one and two.

1033
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: Caleb and Jaden are freak talents. I mean Caleb is,

1034
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean his arm is and Jaden's arm obviously Jaden's

1035
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: thinner than Caleb, taller but so fast. And Caleb's a great,

1036
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: great athlete, strong, but a really good athlete. You know,

1037
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: Bo's a good athlete, really good athlete. Arms, the little

1038
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: hit or miss accuracy looks a little off, So I

1039
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: just think he's got a project on his hands. If

1040
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: Bo was playing well and his offense you've thought was

1041
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: stagnant in the motion rate, then yeah, but I think

1042
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: they're just trying to get some momentum with Bo Nicks,

1043
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: who just again, I mean, I'm the guy that was like, hey,

1044
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: fourteen to one offensive rookie of the year. Your boy

1045
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: might have put a couple hundred bucks on it. It

1046
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: looks I mean, I lost. I might as well have

1047
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: just burned that money. Sometimes you just can't overthink things.

1048
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: I think it turns out the value in some people

1049
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure listening to this might have jumped on it

1050
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: was Jayden Daniels because Caleb was like basically one and

1051
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: a half to one. So if you put one hundred bucks,

1052
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: you win one fifty. Jayden was like five to one.

1053
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: But I'm a value investor, probably value investor. Sometimes your

1054
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: money disappears huge Seattle fan, I was curious your thoughts

1055
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: were on Geno moving forward. I feel like McDonald will

1056
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: get his defense rolling, and there's no way you pay Gino.

1057
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: What quarterbacks go for in the offseason. What do you

1058
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: do if you're John Schneider, Well, I mean, I think

1059
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's name has come up. Would you just go

1060
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: for the younger player? Right? Sam is twenty seven, what's Gino?

1061
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: Let's just hypothetically in a world that said you could

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Speaker 1: pay him both the same. Gino is thirty four years old,

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Speaker 1: so you have like a seven year age difference. And

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Speaker 1: Gino actually turns thirty five. God, he's older, and you think,

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Speaker 1: I guess he just turned thirty four. I was like

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Speaker 1: October tenth, but that just happened. So Gino next year

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Speaker 1: will be thirty five. He has been. I give John

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Speaker 1: Schneider a lot of credit. It's one of the best

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Speaker 1: bridge quarterback signings I can't remember in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it truly is. Usually when teams sign guys

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Speaker 1: like Gino Smith, it is such a disaster, it is

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Speaker 1: so embarrassing. It just immediately pisses off all the fans.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows the guy sucks, and he typically gets benched

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Speaker 1: and Gino is just been freaking fantastic for them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he really has. But you're right, this is a business

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Speaker 1: and clearly Gino wanted to get paid this offseason. Don't

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Speaker 1: blame him because in his mind it's like, look at

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Speaker 1: what I've done for your franchise. I've helped keep it afloat.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, Gino, I watch you play against Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: where's that guy when we play forty nine ers? Like

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Speaker 1: the guy that I just saw two weeks ago, what

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Speaker 1: the hell was that? And I think the games against

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers he's now, I think he's owing six.

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Speaker 1: He was zero five coming into this season, and you

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Speaker 1: lost that Thursday night game, so he's owned six. He

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Speaker 1: has been atrocious in those games. And listen, you're like,

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Speaker 1: if you're not Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or Rogers

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Speaker 1: in his prime, you get some bad games. Like it's

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Speaker 1: you know, even the middle of the road crew, like

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Speaker 1: they're better middle of the road. But the Cousins, the Goffs,

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Speaker 1: the Dacks, the guys that make a lot of money

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Speaker 1: that we all acknowledge, even though Gof's like kind of

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Speaker 1: having an MVP season, but they've never been like top

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Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. They have stinkers. But I think the problem

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Speaker 1: with Gino is age. It feels like he puts a

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Speaker 1: ceiling on your team, like are you gonna win? And

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Speaker 1: part of the Niners thing reflects like can we win

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Speaker 1: playoff games with you? And it doesn't feel like the

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Speaker 1: answer is yes. And let's say you win the division

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Speaker 1: this year, because it's very possible with the Niners having

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems. Let's say you win the division

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Speaker 1: this year. If you lost that playoff game, I think

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Speaker 1: Geno would be done now. I think the question mark

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Speaker 1: would be would they trade up and try to land someone?

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Speaker 1: Is this quarterback class something that would intrigue John? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Fascinating quarterback team really is? Okay? Last question,

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Speaker 1: so long question. Do you think divisional realignment in college

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Speaker 1: football will improve the success rate of first round quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: or reduce the likelihood of drafting bus Where in previous years,

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Speaker 1: top programs like Ohio State, Bama, etc. Had only a

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Speaker 1: couple Top fifteen games on the schedule, the consolidation of

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Speaker 1: power in the SEC and Big Ten now forces more

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Speaker 1: NFL light matchups. This is a fantastic point. Here is

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Speaker 1: a good question. Successful college quarterbacks on loaded college rosters

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Speaker 1: flopped in the NFL. Now take Georgia and Texas game

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Speaker 1: for example, we already are writing off viewers in beck

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Speaker 1: As mid round picks after disappointing performances against other elite defenses.

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Speaker 1: Curious if better talent parody will help teams make more

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Speaker 1: and four draft decisions. You know, in fairness to years

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Speaker 1: before on a lot of these bus like if you

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Speaker 1: had two years as a starter in your potential top

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Speaker 1: five pick, like if you play at Bama or USC

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Speaker 1: or Texas or whatever, I can only go off the

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Speaker 1: three or four games that you played against like other

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Speaker 1: loaded teams. Right, So it is, it was a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge projection always and now like Carson Beck's playing in

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Speaker 1: massive games. I mean he's already played I would say,

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Speaker 1: two NFL level games on the road at Alabama, on

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Speaker 1: the road at Texas, Like there can't be a better

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Speaker 1: way to evaluate you. The pressure, the intensity, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know exactly how many NFL guys

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Speaker 1: Bama has on defense, but first crappies or defenses, I

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Speaker 1: bet still a lot of guys end up getting drafted. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Texas has a bunch of NFL guys defensively, and it's

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Speaker 1: like they're gonna get more of those, and now with

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Speaker 1: the twelve team playoffs as well. So I think you

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Speaker 1: bring up a great point that any player I want

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Speaker 1: to evaluate is that one of these SEC or Big

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Speaker 1: Ten schools, they're just playing in so many big games

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Speaker 1: against other NFL teams, against other teams even random games

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Speaker 1: like oh, you get Iowa this week and I'm a

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Speaker 1: Linebackermst Like, well, they got a starting running back that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a I don't know, top On Hunter pick

1144
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Speaker 1: that before, like, or you know, the UCLA middle linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have one. I'm just

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Speaker 1: using this as example. That game never would have happened.

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Speaker 1: Ucla would have been playing like Arizona State, right or

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Speaker 1: Utah or just what Utah has got NFL players. But

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, I think at one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent helps for sure. So maybe there will be

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Speaker 1: less draft of bus. Maybe here's the thing, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: more likely that these guys don't get drafted is high.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that instead of Quinn yours

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Speaker 1: and Carson Beck in the year's past, where like, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, if Texas was playing in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: they would destroy everybody, and then you would get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and you would put an extraordinate amount of

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Speaker 1: pressure on the playoff games. And then if he didn't

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Speaker 1: have a good Final four game, you would chock it up, Well,

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Speaker 1: he's had one bad game. It was a big moment,

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Speaker 1: but you would go back look at his numbers. Well,

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Speaker 1: it turns out that game against Georgia in the Final four,

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming no realignment here or Texas still in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve. Well, it's like that's a one off situation. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: actually that is indicative of the guy less than playing

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Speaker 1: Baylor in Oklahoma State on a weekly basis. So, and

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Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna really help a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys out. It's like, damn, look at that guy play

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Speaker 1: like you watched I'll tell you who made a lot

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Speaker 1: of money. You watch Walker from Georgia, holy shit, and

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Speaker 1: get more eyeballs on them. Because you play well in

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Speaker 1: the bigger games, more people are paying attention. Hype's great

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: and listen, Hype real or not matters, but it can

1174
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: dissipate and disappear quick because when you play good teams,

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: it can just be like what's going on here? Like

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01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: what's happening? And I think we are all huge winners.

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Speaker 1: Seeing some of the ratings numbers on college football, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy. I mean some of the biggest games this

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Speaker 1: year Georgia, Texas, Bama, Georgia. I mean these games are

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Speaker 1: doing like twelve eleven million people, like good good regular

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01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: season NBA games do like a couple million people. The

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: World Series this year is unique because it's Dodgers Yankees,

1183
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: but never do those type numbers anymore. Held the NBA

1184
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: Finals the last couple of years are doing like nine

1185
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Speaker 1: to ten million, and that's like Warriors Celtics. So props

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01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: to everyone for realignment has made the sport more interesting.

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Speaker 1: Even if I missed the Pac twelve a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Talk soon the volume