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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with her dafe O way and do.

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Speaker 1: Let's start here Thanksgiving week. What are your what are

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Speaker 1: your plans for the big day?

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Speaker 2: Well, my families, they all flew out to California. Okay,

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Speaker 2: obviously I have family out there already.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they're getting ready exactly.

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Speaker 2: My brother's playing out there. They're getting ready, you know

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. So I'm gonna be out here in

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Speaker 2: Owen's Mills with Michael Pearce in the family and the

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Speaker 2: rest of.

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Speaker 1: The d line nice, just celebrating. Okay, Okay, So he's hosting?

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Speaker 1: Is he the cook?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: How's this work? Do you know?

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Speaker 2: I hope he's not the cook. Nah. He probably has

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Speaker 2: good food taste, but he's probably a collective effort from

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Speaker 2: all the wives and then everyone's probably gonna bring a

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Speaker 2: dish and everything.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, so it's pollock. So what

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Speaker 1: do you what are you bringing? Do you bring a

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Speaker 1: little Nigerian flavor to a Thanksgiving meal? What do you do?

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Speaker 2: See? I would, but it's like my sister's not here,

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Speaker 2: my mom's not here. I haven't I haven't yet, you know,

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Speaker 2: mass said the making the dishes? Yes, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to put that on them?

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Speaker 3: It sounds like he's going to do the classic like

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Speaker 3: run through the grocery store on the way, you know,

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Speaker 3: bring the chocolate chip cookies just in the plastic container

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Speaker 3: and be like, here you go, guys, don't.

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Speaker 1: Do the store ball apple pie trash. Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: I have some taste, you know, forget all right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So Doff, one of the reasons you want to

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Speaker 3: have you on is that you're balling right now. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're playing you're playing great football. Probably this stretch is

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Speaker 3: probably the best that seems like you've played in your career.

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Speaker 4: How dialed in do you feel right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just feel, you know, real blessed, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Donald in and confident and all the work I did

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Speaker 2: in the off season and then you know, leading up

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Speaker 2: to them, my whole career starting to you know, marry

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Speaker 2: up together and the timing is starting to click. So

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Speaker 2: you know, I just gotta thank God. Obviously you can

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Speaker 2: go any other way, but you know, starting to make

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Speaker 2: a lot of plays, So I got to thank him.

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Speaker 3: Four sacks in five games, does that mean something?

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Speaker 1: To you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're, you're you're stacking these things over

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Speaker 3: the course of the last month.

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Speaker 4: Does that mean something to you when those number start

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Speaker 4: piling up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. You know. My old events always used

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Speaker 2: to tell me that, you know, don't get the scaries

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Speaker 2: that once one comes in, you know, they come and

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Speaker 2: piles and come in bunches, you know. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you know, it's come consistently each one

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Speaker 2: each game. But you know, I'm trying to stack like

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Speaker 2: a few each game. You know, that's the next step

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to take. But I'm blessed, humbly grateful for

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Speaker 2: everything that's happened already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really happy to see it. Honestly, I'm really

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Speaker 1: happy for you, especially because I mean not only just

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Speaker 1: your journey and I know how hard you've worked, but

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Speaker 1: like it's also felt like you've been like that close

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Speaker 1: to so many more sacks, and it's just like gosh,

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Speaker 1: to like see those numbers come, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: like really cool. It has that kind of added to

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Speaker 1: this feeling for you that like it's been a whisker

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Speaker 1: away for so long.

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Speaker 2: Seemingly, honestly would like challenge, you like, would you rather

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Speaker 2: want to be not even close to the fight or

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Speaker 2: be right there every single time and something just having

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Speaker 2: the ball gets out or some flag hold it. But nah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, it does make it kind of

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Speaker 2: frustrating that you know, you're always so close and a

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Speaker 2: with this year, you know, it kind of being in

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Speaker 2: But I like to look at it in the positive,

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Speaker 2: you know, mindset that you know, look how many you've missed,

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Speaker 2: and look at how many you've gotten already, so where

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Speaker 2: and everything, so you know, obviously there's work to be done.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just looking at the positively.

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Speaker 1: Well, plus pressure, I mean, even if you don't get

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Speaker 1: the sack, pressure is a very good thing and a

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Speaker 1: number of other metrics, and that's something that I think

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Speaker 1: maybe fans don't really take as much stock in, is that,

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Speaker 1: Like pressure causes turnovers, causes incompletions, all that stuff. So

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Speaker 1: even if you don't get the sack to your earlier question,

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Speaker 1: I think you still want to be in the fight.

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Speaker 1: Awesome I was just you know, truly I can get it. Usually.

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Speaker 1: I know what Mike McDonald would choose, You choose the pressure,

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Speaker 1: I'll take you exactly.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually curious, like there's been a little bit of conversation,

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Speaker 3: like Robert Salah, the Jets coach, kind of talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw the clip of him talking about

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Speaker 3: how sacks are overrated, and you know there's been like

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Speaker 3: kind of a conversation about that. What's your take on that, Like,

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Speaker 3: I always feel like it's one of those things where

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Speaker 3: some guys say, like sacks are overrated and then you

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Speaker 3: start getting on me, like I got all these check

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, you know, like everyone wants to

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Speaker 2: get the sacks. Obviously that's how you get hit and everything.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, in terms of like a defense, you know,

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Speaker 2: a structural combined defense and everything, I feel like pressures

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Speaker 2: they're not you don't weigh as heavy as sacks, but

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Speaker 2: you know they actually make a big difference, you know,

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Speaker 2: and time and messing up the rhythm the QB. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't know if that can make a play, make

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Speaker 2: a play for Kyle Hamilton or Geno or you know,

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Speaker 2: you get a pressure and that pushes them close to

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Speaker 2: Jadaveon or closer to the beaks. So it's like it's

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Speaker 2: kind of playing point guard with those pressures. You know,

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Speaker 2: you just assist and stuff like that. But you know

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Speaker 2: everyone likes to say that, you know, once you don't

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Speaker 2: get the sacks, but once you get the sacks like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I got it's you know, it's you gotta

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Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta wait.

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Speaker 1: Kind of differently, Yeah, you mentioned point guard and that's

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Speaker 1: something I want to talk about. And Jennah Shaffer from

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore batter I wrote a cool story about this

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Speaker 1: about how our defense really does kind of view the

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Speaker 1: pass rush as basketball plays. Almost there's pick and rolls,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stunts, you know, setting picks on guys.

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about that? Is that some terminology that

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Speaker 1: you use in the room. Is it similar to basketball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's similar in terms of actually a bunch of

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Speaker 2: like manipulating leverage and stuff like that, and in that sense,

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Speaker 2: you know, setting up your rush, but also, like you said,

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Speaker 2: picks and stunts, Like obviously in basketball, they have just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pick and roll, roll.

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Speaker 2: Back, back, back, back screen, you know, and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, actually it is kind of like basketball. It

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Speaker 2: is in that sense. But you know, we're all like

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Speaker 2: a bunch of athletic guys too and everything, so we

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Speaker 1: You have a little basketball history and he's taking you

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Speaker 1: back to your hoop and days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I thank god that he put

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Speaker 2: that in my life, you know early. So everything happens

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, So you know an area where it

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Speaker 3: seems like you have kind of developed, is this this

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Speaker 3: conversation of speed and power. Okay, so like you come

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Speaker 4: You is like you're you're a speed rusher.

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Speaker 3: That's what the that's what the scouting report said. But

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Speaker 3: then this year, I know, Chuck Smith when he got here,

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Speaker 3: told him you're going to be a power rusher. You

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Speaker 3: told all of us, told all of us, and you

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Speaker 3: told right.

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Speaker 1: They you were kind of wrong, Like, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got power, but I'm seeing a lot of other stuff here.

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Speaker 1: Just to let you know, breaking news. You're you're not

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Speaker 2: I mean, who says I didn't say that for a reason.

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Speaker 3: Here's if I'm on the right track, like that the

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Speaker 3: scouting report is like he's a speed guy, and that

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Speaker 3: you were kind of manifesting it like I'm more than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know, I can add that to it

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Speaker 2: based on what the old tackle is. But obviously a

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Speaker 2: big thing that Chuck you know, harped on me, you

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Speaker 2: know this year, was not trying to contort your game

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Speaker 2: based on what the tackle did. So to say you

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Speaker 2: want to have more of like attacking mentality and have

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Speaker 2: him adjust to what you're doing. But at the same sense,

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Speaker 2: you gotta look at your point on what he's best at.

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Speaker 2: He's like a four and a pounds six nine guy.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna want to run past him, you know, break

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Speaker 2: speed rusher right now, but I would say that, you know,

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Speaker 2: when I needed I can put that power and slip

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, I mean when I when I look

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Speaker 1: at the tape, I mean the spin moves really working,

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Speaker 1: kind of ripping. I mean I really like this one

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Speaker 1: this past week. And mostly that was an effort sack, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean you just kept rushing, kept rushing. But the

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Speaker 1: double hand swipe, you know, and now Atlanta kind of

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Speaker 1: he held those hands back. And so I've just been

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Speaker 1: really impressed by the different variety of moves that you've

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Speaker 1: used that have all kind of worked. Can you talk

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like goes back to the basketball,

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to manipulate leverage and trying to you know,

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Speaker 2: stack rushes and build on like you know what I've

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Speaker 2: shown him and stuff like that. So, like I was

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Speaker 2: just been trying to show that speed speed, speed speed

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Speaker 2: they can't just like sit on my heasies or sit

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Speaker 2: on my spin because they have to they're afraid of

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Speaker 2: me taking that edge, right, So you know, once I

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Speaker 2: start burning the edge, it opens up my inside games.

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Speaker 2: And I love I love the spin obviously, like you said,

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Speaker 2: And then you know, I feel like as the year

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Speaker 2: goes by. I want to add more that power so

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Speaker 2: that when they do try to anchor I and just

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Speaker 2: slip by, kind of like what I did a Detroit game,

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Speaker 2: right right, you know, so you know, I thank God

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Speaker 2: for a lot of repertoires, but you got no one

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Speaker 2: to use them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Ryan mentioned going up against Ortlanta Brown last game, is

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Speaker 3: you guys are forever going to be linked because you

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Speaker 3: know they traded him and got the pick and ended

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Speaker 3: up taking you. And then now you guys are in

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Speaker 3: the same division going up against each other twice a year.

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Speaker 4: Is it Does it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, So what has Chuck Smith really

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Speaker 2: that's really helped me. And then you know, just that

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Speaker 1: That's how that's how you finish them, right, the last piece.

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Speaker 3: You know. So what I've seen with Chuck and you guys,

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Speaker 4: But he seems to like take that to another level.

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Speaker 3: Like he'll say before games, you guys, you guys got

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be breaking up today. I remember the beginning

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Speaker 2: I love it, and he manifests it, and that's what

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Speaker 2: even times we're like, you know, we're like, all Chuck, shut.

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Speaker 2: He's just always harping your heart with out of respect

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: So John Harball said this week, you know, he was

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Speaker 4: But is that how you see it? Like, do you

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Speaker 3: You scratching the surface of what you can become as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, humbly, like God's giving me a lot

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Speaker 2: So that's another guy that you know, we're just scratching

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Speaker 2: know it doesn't happen how you want to, but you're learning,

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Speaker 2: so you're learning what it takes with so when that

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just really appreciative of that, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm excited to where you know, I could

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: You talk about expectations and learning on the fly, and

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Speaker 1: you know you had instant success, right, I mean Week two,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, You're the AFC defensive defensive player of the week, right,

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Speaker 1: and had a really strong rookie season, and then last

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Speaker 1: and the numbers just weren't there, like you talked about.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was tough, but I would say, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, everyone goes through seasons where like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was developmental guy, stilling, but I was developmental guy.

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Speaker 2: So the expectations were there, but it's not like they

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Speaker 2: I started playing like a few years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, you kind of shot yourself in the foot a little.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I did that, but but exactly just

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Speaker 2: you know that that that second year is just learning

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Speaker 2: like my approach to the games, how I handled every

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Speaker 1: And then it had to be frustrating then too. You

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Speaker 1: I can't have another you know, I'm done sharp. I

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Speaker 2: It felt like another I was like, what's going on,

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Speaker 2: Like there's no way there's another obstacle. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you you know people that are not if you

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Speaker 2: you got to look at that. It's not even an

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Speaker 2: situation that can go awry. And that really helped me.

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Speaker 2: So I gotta think Weave too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those two guys, Chuck and Weave, but they're close

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Speaker 3: and and I know a lot of you guys have

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Speaker 2: Uh? I mean there's pressure obviously, but it's like it's

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Speaker 2: reason that everyone's depending on you, and you want that obviously,

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Speaker 2: You're not training to be second fiddle. It's just that

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Speaker 2: but it's like it's a good privilege, you know what

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Speaker 3: So like this year, when you're coming back from the

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Speaker 4: Like what does that process look like? Who are you

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Speaker 3: Like how are you keeping your mental focus like kind

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Speaker 3: And like I'm sure that I've heard plenty of guys

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, and kind of you know, you said, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I said, there's a few things I did,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're in your third year, So what as

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Speaker 3: For this season and beyond for you?

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Speaker 2: You know, I keep like I said, I always like

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Speaker 2: But you know, just to be dominant and just to

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Speaker 2: can that helps our defense, that helps the guys around me.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to affect the game like tremendously

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Speaker 3: Like we've talked about two guys who I think kind

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Speaker 3: and he had like some ups and downs in his career.

434
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Speaker 4: Now he's playing great.

435
00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's got to get a big pay day

436
00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,679
Speaker 3: matter Mek same thing, you know, like he's got it.

437
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,640
Speaker 4: Both of these guys.

438
00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,399
Speaker 3: The Brinks truck is coming for both these guys, and

439
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 3: both of them have kind of had some a lot

440
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 3: of potential highs and lows. Do you look at the

441
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 3: way that like those players have blossomed, you know, as

442
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,960
Speaker 3: their career has gone on, like they just get better,

443
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,280
Speaker 3: And I see the same thing with you, Like you're

444
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,719
Speaker 3: just getting better every year. Do you look at that

445
00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,040
Speaker 3: as like this is an example of where my career

446
00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 3: is going.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I feel blessed because I was

448
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,200
Speaker 2: around them, you know when obviously they were going through

449
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,639
Speaker 2: the troubles and they were still like flashing, but you

450
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 2: know it wasn't as consist as it is now. So

451
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 2: I saw like their mentality switch, their routines that get better.

452
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 2: And then one thing, like they always always bleed in them,

453
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 2: so like they always knew that they were going to

454
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 2: be that guy that they could make plays. And that

455
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 2: was one thing that I always try to stick to mind.

456
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 2: So especially PQ, like he was going I remember as

457
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 2: my rookie year, he was going through it that year,

458
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 2: but he always knew he was that boy, and like

459
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,280
Speaker 2: he always knew that, you know, if he got his

460
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,239
Speaker 2: chance and you know, if he really like focused up

461
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,919
Speaker 2: on what he had to do, like he was gonna shine.

462
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 2: So you know, just that confidence that both guys have

463
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 2: and the tension to details, especially that Beaks has as well.

464
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 2: Like Beaks wrote down all his goals before the season

465
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,199
Speaker 2: and was diligent on it and I still see it

466
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 2: in his garage, you know, like he crosses out what

467
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,919
Speaker 2: he has to docros he has. Like I really respect

468
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,960
Speaker 2: Beaks for what he you know, his focus and his

469
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: discipline this year. So those guys, you know, they do

470
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Speaker 2: everything that their body get.

471
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Speaker 1: That's cool. Is there any element for you of being

472
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Speaker 1: like I want to show the Ravens over the second

473
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Speaker 1: half of this season, you know, coming up fifth year

474
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 1: option decisions all that stuff. You know, like, hey man, Eric,

475
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: you watching the second half of the Season's about to

476
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: be popping kind of situation, you know what I mean?

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I just I just want everyone just

478
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: to watch you know, I'm just I feel like these

479
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: next few games, I'm really about to hit my stride

480
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: and you know, I just I feel like that, like

481
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: I said in a podcast I did like last year

482
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: a few years ago, that you know, I'm gonna be

483
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Speaker 2: better in the future, Like, yeah, that's when my that's

484
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,959
Speaker 2: when my when I'm projected to be. You know, who

485
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm really supposed to be. And I feel like the

486
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 2: real football players are football people that watch that and

487
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: understand what's going on to field, watch the film everything,

488
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: you'll be able to see that. So EDC Man, you know,

489
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: I know you're a film guy. Man.

490
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Speaker 1: Well it's exciting, man. I mean I feel like it's

491
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: all come together, like it's kind of yeah, the future

492
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: is bright, but the future is also now. It's come

493
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: together and you're getting healthier and you're balling out.

494
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Speaker 3: Man.

495
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thanks for soing on.

496
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: Appreciate you man, Thank you for well.

497
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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Seakeek studio. Big thanks to Dafe

498
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Speaker 3: I mentioned I really enjoy the conversation with him. I'm like,

510
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Speaker 3: I agree with his take that the like we're just

511
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: starting to see the glimpses and like he's not he's

512
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Speaker 3: not a finished player.

513
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's kind of like I said to him,

514
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: he was almost his own worst enemy at the beginning

515
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Speaker 1: of his career because he got off to such a

516
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Speaker 1: hot start. You know. Here it was this guy who

517
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: had no sacks his final year at Penn State in college.

518
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: He comes to the NFL and he's this athletic freak,

519
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, coming into it, and people are like, well,

520
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to be patient with him. Because

521
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have any sacks last year at

522
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Speaker 1: Penn State and all the stuff. He's like got it

523
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: late starts football. We're gonna have to be patient, but like,

524
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: we got a real player here. He could be something big.

525
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: And then he had so much success, you know for

526
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Speaker 1: the first few weeks in the league.

527
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, sacks first game, it's.

528
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Speaker 1: Sac as first game. Then the force fumble the second

529
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: game that won the game against the Chiefs, a huge

530
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Speaker 1: moment that like all of a sudden it was like, oh, actually,

531
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: we don't have to be patient. He's good right now,

532
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: He's awesome, and it's like, well, you know, happy to

533
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: have the success, but like also I'm not a finished player,

534
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: and so you know, he's just another example of and

535
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: I think this especially applies to quarterbacks where there's such

536
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: high expectations for first round picks and you have to

537
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: have a media success and if you don't, well it's like,

538
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: well then they're a bust, right, And like, certainly that

539
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really the conversation with Odafe, But like I think

540
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: after the start that he got off to, there was

541
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Speaker 1: kind of questions about is he ever going to materialize

542
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: and become that player that we all envisioned, and now

543
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: we're starting to see that now that he's healthy, now

544
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Speaker 1: that he has these better tools, all this stuff, like

545
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Speaker 1: we're seeing it come to Fru and I couldn't be

546
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: happier for him. Really.

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I asked Hi the question about the

548
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Speaker 3: pressure of first round picks, because I've heard I've heard

549
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: a number of players talk about that, you know, especially

550
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Speaker 3: like on the other side of it, you know, when

551
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: they're in it, it's kind of like a you know.

552
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Speaker 4: Pressure is manufactured.

553
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 3: I don't really, but as a first round pick, like

554
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: you hear the noise, you know that they took you

555
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: first for a reason, and so you.

556
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Speaker 1: Whether it's vocalized or not.

557
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Speaker 3: Like, I think a lot of these players feel that

558
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: expectation that's on their shoulders him being among them, and

559
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: so I think that, like, and you also just have

560
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: high expectations for yourself, like you want to play well.

561
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: They're sure you're a confident player, and so I think that,

562
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: like we're seeing that, and I can tell you, like

563
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: the coaches, and this speaks to John Harbaugh's point, like

564
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: the coaches really believe like there is a lot more

565
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: meat on the bone because we're not seeing the This

566
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: is not like the pinnacle of the Ada fe Oway story.

567
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: This is we are on our way up here. And

568
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Speaker 3: so you know, like I even go back to and

569
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Speaker 3: we kind of talked about this previously around the trade deadline,

570
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: like you know, it was kind of like, oh, the

571
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: Ravens gonn add a running back? Are they going to

572
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: add a pass rusher? You know, what are they going

573
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Speaker 3: to do? And you know, I think that part of

574
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: the they've had confidence in this. They have the most

575
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Speaker 3: SAX in the NFL, so they've got a good group.

576
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 3: Ok So it's not like they're the goods there, but

577
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Speaker 3: like Oway is coming on strong like that, that's one.

578
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Speaker 1: Of the guys the equations, part of the equation there.

579
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Speaker 3: So if you were to bring in another guy, then

580
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: that limits opportunities for him to a certain extent. And

581
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Speaker 3: so like this is a guy who you want playing

582
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 3: and like you're seeing the benefit. Similar to the running

583
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 3: back situation, you don't ad a running back. Now Keith

584
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Speaker 3: Mitchell gets this an opportunity and we're all excited by

585
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Speaker 3: Keith Mitchell.

586
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Speaker 1: So you're kind of glad you didn't.

587
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Speaker 4: The moves you don't.

588
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Speaker 3: Make turn out to be the best ones, and I

589
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Speaker 3: actually think that could be the case for both the

590
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Speaker 3: outside linebacker position and the running back position for the Ravens.

591
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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And and let's be honest, over the

592
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Speaker 1: first half of the season, really the pass rush from

593
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Speaker 1: the outside linebackers standpoint at least was kind of carried

594
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Speaker 1: by Jadavion Clowney and Kyle van Noy and and I

595
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to change. Those guys are still

596
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Speaker 1: pla and at a really high level. But there are

597
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: two veterans, and I think that over the second half

598
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: of the season here you're going to see Odafe kind

599
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: of take more of the reins there as these veterans,

600
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, you have to manage their snaps a little

601
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: bit more and whatnot later in the season, especially like

602
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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of on a Dafe a little bit

603
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Speaker 1: to step to the forefront. And I think he's very

604
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Speaker 1: much capable of doing that, and we're starting to see that.

605
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Speaker 3: I think he's ready to. I just think that like

606
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: a lot of this has been building for him where

607
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Speaker 3: he feels like, all right now is my time, yep,

608
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Speaker 3: And now we're seeing the benefits of that.

609
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Speaker 1: The shame of it is, you know, at the beginning

610
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Speaker 1: of the season. It was really a Dafe and David

611
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 1: Ajavo and he mentioned him, and you know, I know

612
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Speaker 1: Odafe feels really bummed that that hasn't been able to

613
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Speaker 1: come to fruition because of the injury to David. Now

614
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Speaker 1: we haven't had a final any kind of final say

615
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Speaker 1: that says he isn't coming back or anything like this.

616
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Speaker 1: John Harball kind of teasing a tease that there was

617
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Speaker 1: an announcement coming on at some point on that we

618
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten that announcement. Yeah, So until we get that announcement,

619
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Speaker 1: I'm going to knock on wood that David Jabo could

620
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Speaker 1: come back at some point here, you know.

621
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Speaker 3: So, but he has not returned to practice yet and

622
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Speaker 3: he has no there's been no indication that a return

623
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Speaker 3: to practice is right on around the corner.

624
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Speaker 1: Yes, so that's been That's kind of the bummer, you know,

625
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: That's what we're waiting to see and we're hoping to see.

626
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Speaker 1: But hey, if that has to come next year, then

627
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Speaker 1: so be it. It's a Dafe's turn and he's kind

628
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: of got a ball with a patch on his shoulder

629
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Speaker 1: for his guy, you know.

630
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the Ravens are gonna need him

631
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Speaker 3: this week. I know you he mentioned family being out

632
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: in LA. He's family out in LA. So this will

633
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: be a big game for him. I'm sure the ticket

634
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: request was was steep for him. And you know, just

635
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: to kind of roll it forward a little bit to

636
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: this game against the Chargers, you know, this is uh,

637
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 3: the Ravens need a way and the rest of these

638
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: pass rushers to be at their best because Justin Herbert's

639
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Speaker 3: on the other side of this thing.

640
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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

641
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

642
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

643
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think that team wide. When you look

644
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: at the Chargers, this is a team that needs to

645
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: win pretty bad, right if you just zoom out, Yeah,

646
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: so to the Ravens. So to the Ravens, Yeah, Sean

647
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Harribe exactly. The Charges are four and six, last place

648
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: in division. They take another l. It's not done done,

649
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: but it might as well be for them. Their playoff

650
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: hopes are really kind of on the ropes, so it's

651
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: a it's a really big game for them. They've lost

652
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: for their last six, but when you look at it,

653
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot of close losses for them. I Mean they

654
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: had Dallas case where the two of those first losses,

655
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: then close games against Detroit and Green Bay. Right, Detroit

656
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: is a good team too, and so this is this

657
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: is a better team, I think than what you see

658
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: on paper. Right, Like they're four and six, You're like, eh,

659
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: but you look down the roster, talk about Herbert. They

660
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of really good players on both sides

661
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: of the ball. So this is by no means you

662
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: talk about, oh, you're going against the last place team,

663
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: by no means is just a cakewalk.

664
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Speaker 3: No, I mean, the Chargers are loaded with talent. You've

665
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: got Herbert, you got Austin Ackley, you have Keenan Allen,

666
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: you have Derwin James Bosa's not going to play. You know,

667
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: he's dealing with an injury, so he's not going to play.

668
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: They got Khalil mack So, yeah, there's talent throughout that

669
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: that roster. So I think that, I mean, everybody's surprised

670
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: that they're sitting here at four and six. Like, there's

671
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: a reason this is a Sunday night football game.

672
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Speaker 4: I think when the.

673
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: Schedule makers made this game, the thought was like this

674
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: might be a battle between two of the best teams

675
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: in the league. Yep, you have two of the best

676
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks in the league and.

677
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: Certainly two of the best teams for the AFC, so

678
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: probably two playoff teams, is what the thinking.

679
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: That was the thought, and it's it's surprising that it's

680
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: not the case. But look, the Ravens know that just

681
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 3: how dangerous the Chargers team can be. So I mean,

682
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't think that overlooking or anything like that is

683
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: even on the equation. But I think that, like I

684
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: think that for fans who are looking at this game

685
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: like you got you got to take the Chargers really

686
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: seriously because they've got a ton of talent on that roster.

687
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, justin Hurbt's eighth in the league in passing

688
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: yards so far. I mean, this is a strong arm

689
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: dude who when you look at pure talent, he's right

690
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: up there as one of the most talented quarterbacks in

691
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, without a doubt, can make every single throw,

692
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: incredibly strong arm accurate, can run like he can do

693
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: it all. Well, he got that.

694
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Speaker 3: I mean Lamar got the contract, then Herbert got the contract,

695
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: and then Burrow got the contract. So yeah, those are

696
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: three of the best in the business right there, and

697
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: absolutely that's the you know, the Ravens by the Bengals

698
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: last week, and now they're playing the Chargers this week. Like,

699
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: those are three of the best quarterbacks in football.

700
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Speaker 1: Well, and when I look back on the Ravens schedule

701
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: so far, I think that Justin Herbert might be the

702
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: toughest challenge that they've faced yet. You know, you got

703
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in Week two when he was still kind

704
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: of hobbled by the calf, right, then you got him

705
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: healthy this past week, but he was injured. He was

706
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: injured right for most of the game. And so Jared

707
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: Goff has had a really good season. But I think

708
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: that Herbert's a more talented quarterback than Jared goff is personally,

709
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: So to me that this is the stiffest sess yet

710
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: for the Ravens secondary. It remains to be seen if

711
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey is going to be back on the field.

712
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: That would certainly help. You know, they have Keenan Allen

713
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: who's fourth in the league and receiving yards, have some

714
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: really talent Austin Eckler, They have talented pass catchers up

715
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: and down, and they got a guy that can deliver

716
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: the ball anywhere. So like this to me is gonna

717
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: be kind of an indication, and now we already know

718
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: where the Ravens secondary kind of stands to this point.

719
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: I think they've proven it over enough games. But you're

720
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: going into a stretch of season now where you're gonna

721
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: get Matthew Stafford, You're gonna get Tua rock Purdy. Who

722
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: else am I missing that's still remaining on the schedule,

723
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence exactly. Those quarterbacks are all coming.

724
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Speaker 1: So this is kind of the first step into what's

725
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: going to be a run of tough challenges from a

726
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: quarterback perspective, and we'll see how ready this Ravens defense is.

727
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think this Ravens defense is really good.

728
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: I think over the past few games they've given up

729
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: you know, more yards and points and they certainly expect

730
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, certainly in that Browns game, even in that

731
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: Bengals game, they were mad about that late touchdown, So

732
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: like they don't expect to give up many points. Now,

733
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: this is going to be a tougher challenge I think

734
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: with this offense. You know, I think another interesting subplot

735
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: you talk about the weapons that they have. Quent Johns,

736
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: rooky wide receiver for them, was taking one pick ahead

737
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: of a Flowers, and I you know, there was a

738
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: lot there was a lot of talk about the Ravens

739
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: potentially taking a receiver in the draft.

740
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Speaker 1: There was tons of there's a lot of talk smoke

741
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: around Quentin Johnston.

742
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was certainly somebody who was mocked with the

743
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Ravens and plenty of plenty of these out of TCU,

744
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: and so they take him right before the Ravens ended

745
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: up taking Zay Flowers. I think that Jay Flowers was

746
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: always a guy for the Ravens who where they were

747
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: hoping would get to them. At this point, hasn't been

748
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: a great rookie season for Quentin, you know, kind of

749
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: a tough twenty catches for.

750
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Speaker 1: One hundred and eighty three yards in one touch.

751
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think the Ravens are certainly glad

752
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: about getting Za Flowers.

753
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: But just an interesting subplot.

754
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: We talked about this earlier this year with Jackson Smith

755
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: and Jig but who went to Seattle, similar kind of story.

756
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And Zay Flowers told us then that he

757
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have a list of all the players that were

758
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: taking ahead of him that he like crossed out like

759
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown has done. You know it's been a

760
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: kind of a story of his. Zaya doesn't really hold

761
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: any animosity or any grudges over where he was picked.

762
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: He just says happy to be where I am. That's

763
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: about it. So it's not a storyline for him, but

764
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: for Ravens fans, I think, you know, you look at

765
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers leads a team in in targets, receptions like

766
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: he's been balling out. You're glad the way it worked out,

767
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: you know. And and I always had a feeling that

768
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: Zay wasn't really the Chargers flavor. They like the big

769
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: body dudes. Mike Williams Uh. You know, even Keen Down

770
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: is a strong duty. He's not super tall, but he's

771
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: a big body guy, you know. Joshua Palmer for them

772
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: is another big, tall receiver that's kind of their mo

773
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: and not as much the smaller dudes. So you know,

774
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: it's early. It's early. You can't make final decisions or

775
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: proclamations on draft choices. But yeah, I'm going to put

776
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Speaker 1: it in pencil that this is a W for the

777
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Speaker 1: Ravens on that why I love.

778
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Speaker 4: To say Flowers pick.

779
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Speaker 3: So I'll put I'll put in, I'll put in pan

780
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: that I'm on board with the save flowers for one

781
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: hundred percent.

782
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying an history in the in the scope

783
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: of history, you know, I'm feeling good about that one

784
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: where we stand.

785
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

786
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: A couple other just interesting notes. I think this would

787
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: be a big game for Kyle van Noy. He played

788
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: for the Chargers last year, five sacks for them last year.

789
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: He's already got six this year for the Ravens. Yeah,

790
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: And I think the guys whenever they go up against

791
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: an old team, whether they say it or not, I

792
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: think it means a little something extra for sure. And

793
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: I think that certainly Kyle will be motivated by that

794
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: this week.

795
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, he was definitely motivated by being on the couch

796
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: for so long. Yeah, now he's bawling off the couch,

797
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: as he likes to say. But yeah, maybe the fact

798
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: that I don't know if it was in play that

799
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: the Chargers could have brought him back or not. But

800
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll be looking to go out there and

801
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: show them that, you know, I'm still very much can

802
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: be a dominant player, can be a really good player

803
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: in this league. So that'll be a subplot. And I

804
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: think another interesting one to talk about is Derwin James

805
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: and Kyle Hamilton, and you know, obviously not going against

806
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: each other, but it's just kind of interesting to me

807
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: to think back to twenty eighteen. The twenty eighteen draft,

808
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: there was again a lot of buzz between the Ravens

809
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: and Derwin James. Could could they pick him? The Ravens

810
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: had the chance to do so, they were on the

811
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: clock at number sixteen and they passed on Durwin James

812
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: ended up trading back twice and took Hayden Hurst, the

813
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: tight end out of South Carolina, with that pick.

814
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: And then once they once they ultimately made a pick,

815
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: Dermo was off the board.

816
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, So Durham went at seventeen. The Ravens could

817
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: have had him at sixteen, they said no, they moved back.

818
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 1: Durham went at seventeen to the Chargers. Now Derwin James

819
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: like that, moved back obviously, you know, things with Hayden

820
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: Hurst didn't exactly work out in Baltimore. Derwin James became

821
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: a really good player with the Chargers, three time Per

822
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Bowl or two time first team All Pro, and you

823
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of that one that got

824
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: away a little bit to me, right, and Eric Decasi

825
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: even told us if we had made the pick at sixteen,

826
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Speaker 1: it would have been Drwin James. He told us that

827
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: on this podcast on the podcast Lounge podcast that year.

828
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: And now the trade back ultimately ended up kind of

829
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: working out, right. The Ravens ended up getting Mark Andrews

830
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: with one of the picks that they got in at

831
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: trade back. Ultimately kind of they shuffled picks like ten times,

832
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: but ultimately landed Mark Andrews. Win. Yeah, right, you got

833
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson still in that round. Win. That twenty eighteen

834
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: draft was epic. Yeah, but if you could have had

835
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: Derwin James in the front of it too, that would

836
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: have been kind nice too.

837
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

838
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, so it was kind of like that that

839
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: that player that got away a little bit. And now

840
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: you fast forward and Kyle Hamilton kind of is that guy, right,

841
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: and the Ravens used a first round pick to get him,

842
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: and gosh has panned out and like Derwin James almost

843
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: is the player that Kyle Hamilton, I don't even want

844
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: to say, like Ken Be, like maybe Arty is maybe

845
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: Arty is better. I don't know, but there's no doubt

846
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: to me that Kyle Hamilton's one of the top safeties

847
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, you look at the PFF rankings,

848
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: He's got the fifth highest grade coverage grade of any

849
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: safety in the league. Number one in pass rush, which,

850
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: by the way, like that matters. It's not a nothing

851
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: right like top grade of any safety in the league. Like,

852
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: that's what Derwin jameson he are. There are these hybrids

853
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: who can cover, who can get after the quarterback a

854
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: little bit. They're going to end up with a handful

855
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: of sacks each year, they get a handful of interceptions.

856
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Like that's what it is. Kyle Vanny kinda is that player,

857
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: and it's been a huge boon for this Ravens defense.

858
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean when the Ravens drives to Kyle Hamilton

859
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: and you hear all those scouting reports and all the

860
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: breakdowns on what he could be, he's basically developed into

861
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 3: the best case.

862
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Scenario of all that stuff.

863
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: Ye and Derwin James is a little bit of the model.

864
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: It was the same stuff. It was the same stuff.

865
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: You can play him in the back, he can cover

866
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: tight ends, he has this great versatility. You can put

867
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: him at the line of scrimmage. He's a big hitter.

868
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: All of this it seems like a carbon copy to

869
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: a certain extent. And now Hamilton is playing at such

870
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: a high level. By the way, Pro Bowl voting opens

871
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: next week, so good. Plus, Kyle Hamilton is definitely a

872
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: guy that you should be voting in for the Pro

873
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: Bowl when that opens on Monday.

874
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: It's just a little plug.

875
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: Let's give our guy it off always some you know,

876
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: if he keeps getting a bunch of sacks as a

877
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: keeps a streak going, let's give him some most.

878
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: Sure, Oh way, Hamilton.

879
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: But so I think that, Yeah, the Derwin James Kyle

880
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: Hamilton comparisons, I think are fascinating and I think that

881
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: they're legitimate.

882
00:36:59,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

883
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: And I think that Kyle is he has proven to

884
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: be one like He's been one of the best players

885
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: on this defense all season long, and I think he'll

886
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: continue to be yep.

887
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 1: Talking about the Chargers defense, that really has been their

888
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: weakness this season. I mean, they have the second lowest

889
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: ranked defense in the league in terms of yards allowed

890
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety three yards per game. You know,

891
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: that has been their their weakness, which is odd because

892
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: they have a lot of talented defensive players. Derwin James,

893
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 1: now Joey Bosa, like you said, he's out. He's likely

894
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: reportedly going to go on ir not going to play

895
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: in this game. But they have Khalil Mack exactly as

896
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: eleven sacks, and so they have a lot of talented players,

897
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: but it just hasn't really added up to success for

898
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: them defensively. So in this game, that's that's where the

899
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Ravens have to make Hey right, I mean the Ravens

900
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: are sitting here averaging over thirty points a game for

901
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the past five five games. Can they do that against

902
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers? Yeah, I think they can. What they have

903
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: to avoid is the turnovers. That's where the Chargers have

904
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: been one of the best teams in the league in

905
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: turnover different they're tied for the league lead and force

906
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: forced and recovered fumbles.

907
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

908
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: And that's where you can get into trouble with Khalil

909
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: Mack and such is you can't that's been kind of

910
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: a bugaboo for the Ravens offenses. Give it fumbling the ball.

911
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: You can't let him kind of take over the game.

912
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh absolutely, I think too.

913
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: Like when you when you look at this this Chargers defense,

914
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: they've got all these different weapons and players who are

915
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: are dynamic I think that, like I do wonder go

916
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: back two years the Ravens played the Chargers and they

917
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: basically blew them out.

918
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that was a great game.

919
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: Now, it was thirty four to six.

920
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: A lot of different players, it was home. That game

921
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: got away from the Chargers. How much do you really

922
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: put into that? But like that, they had a lot

923
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 3: of those same players on that team, and the Ravens

924
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: enitor wasn't that long.

925
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Offensively well and defensively defensively, defensively, I mean they held Herbert.

926
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: Herbert was through for one hundred ninety five yards.

927
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they just that game was similar to

928
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: the Seahawks game. It was similar to the game the

929
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: Lions game. A lot of similarities there. So look, I

930
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 3: don't really put too much stock into a game two

931
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: years ago, but like we have seen it. We have

932
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: seen it, and like all the things that we're saying

933
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: about the Chargers team were relevant two years ago, like

934
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: a lot of talent, dynamic quarterback, good defensive pieces, all

935
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: that stuff. So I think that this is an opportunity

936
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 3: here for the Ravens on a national stage once again

937
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: in primetime, to show just how good they are.

938
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: I think that this is an opportunity.

939
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: Now we'll see if they do it, but I think

940
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 3: that they play four out of five games in primetime. Okay,

941
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: so a lot of people around the country are going

942
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: to be seeing the Ravens. As it stands right now,

943
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: the Ravens are the best team in the AFC, if

944
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: they got the best record in the AFC. So there's

945
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 3: a lot of eyes on this team. And I think

946
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: that they're comfortable with that, and I think that and

947
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: I think that they're gonna have it again. They've got

948
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 3: this opportunity to go out there and show everybody watching

949
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: that they are absolutely one of the best teams in

950
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: the league.

951
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: And this is one of the when you look ahead

952
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: to the Ravens schedule, they have a tough, tough schedule remaining.

953
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: You're going against three division leaders in the Dolphins, the

954
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, and the Jags, exactly three division leaders.

955
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: And so this is a game when you talk about

956
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: desperate teams, and kind of to your point, John Harball said,

957
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: we're desperate for a win because you have to win

958
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: games like this when you look ahead to the schedule

959
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: on what's on the If you're going to stay the

960
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC. You gotta win games

961
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, and so it's a really really big

962
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: game for both of these teams, and it's going to

963
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: be a really really big surprise. You Bryson jumped out

964
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: of his shoes. I got him, big win. Let's go