1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Doug Otleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: by searching apps car Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: Fuck Sports Radio? 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Mm hmmmmmmmmmmm. All right. We got a lot of stuff 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: to get to here in the DG Show. What a 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: great experience. It was a new experience. It was to 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: see somebody else other than our Chargers Chase two and 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: I Chargers find a way to lose the game they 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: should win. We're gonna get to Monday Night Football in 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: a second. First, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: gonna do what I should have done a long, long, long, 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: long time ago. I Am going to fight back against losers. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: That's something to do. Every Olympic dream starts with the 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: first glide Through Learn to Skate USA, kids build confidence, 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: a program near you at Learn to SKATEUSA dot com. 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Dan Byer's coming up here on uh on the YouTube channel, 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: and I know this bothered him, So this is what 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to do. Okay, a week ago, right, we 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: lost a really tough home loss to Robert Morse and 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: we'll walk out the floor. I pushed the stool out 27 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: of the way, and yeah, I apologize for it's dumb. 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: It's just mad and nobody was around, and because the 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: camera caught it, it became some people's news and we 30 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: talked about it in the show. But apparently there's a 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: troll out there who filmed me having a conversation with 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: my athletic director before going in and talking to the team. 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: For going in and talking to the team, and I 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: got to tell you there's a couple of things. One, 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: you don't film people without asking. I don't even know 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: if Wisconsin is a is a state where you're allowed 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: to film people without asking. But two and Dan, you 38 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: brought this up like it's a guy with like fifty 39 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: followers on TikTok saying fire Doug because I'm having a conversation. 40 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really weird. It it didn't seem like 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 3: it was confrontational at all. And I think that someone 42 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: was just trying to piece events together and make a story, 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: and so I didn't understand. I didn't know if I 44 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: was missing some context. I felt that, I mean, since 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: I knew you, that I would know everything that was 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: going on. And then I saw it in multiple places 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: where I'm sure it was just aggregated by bots or whatever, 48 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: but it was just it didn't seem like it was 49 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: a confrontational conversation. And so that's what really caught me 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: off guard with the whole thing. 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 2: No, it's my boss who's like a partner in this, 52 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: consoling me after the loss and talking me through it 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: and asking me a couple of questions and what happened 54 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: in a couple of different instances, And I was telling 55 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: him what happened. There's literally nothing to it. My big issue, like, 56 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: you can't control people with the phone trying to make 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: something out of nothing. And the reality is, if we're 58 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: being honest, even the stool thing is a total nothing, right, 59 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: because how it reads is like I threw a chair, 60 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: like I picked it up and there's a bunch of 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: people around and I just threw it and everybody goes 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: ducking right, This is not what happened. My issue is 63 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: there's a Facebook page called bro Bible, and this is 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: like the third time that it's happened, right, the third 65 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: time that it's happened. Where they again they do what 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: you're talking about, Dan, They aggregate pieces of something and 67 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: they tell a story without any information. By the way, 68 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: can this will get it go into the to the 69 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: justin Herbert thing right where if you have a question 70 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: or if you want a comment from me or anybody 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: here about a story, all you have to do is 72 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: pick up the phone. That's what you do when you 73 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: write a story. But these aren't. There is no journalism 74 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: to it. There's no context to it. There's just we 75 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: lost a game that we played well enough and we 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: should have won. We just didn't play well enough for 77 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: forty minutes. It was for thirty eight and a half. 78 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: There's no context to the fact that we've played a 79 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: really difficult schedule, that we've beaten Iona, we've beaten UMass, 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: none of that, or that Robert Morris won the league 81 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: or academic probation last year or anything. Nothing, no context. 82 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: So this is me saying, if there is actual a 83 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: human being who works for bro Bible, you can find 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: me on Facebook. You can find me on Instagram, or 85 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: you can call Fox Fox Sports Radio, or you can 86 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: DM me on social media if you would like to 87 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: actually conduct an interview or be a journalist. But piecing 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: together a story again non contextual. There was no even Hey, 89 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: by the way, we were picked dead last in the 90 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: league this year by a wide margin. Now we're owing 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: too in the league. So right now we're living down 92 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: to that. I own that, okay, Or where Robert Morris 93 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: is picked, or anything about the game, or anything about 94 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: our trip to the US Virgin Islands, or how we 95 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: took Minnesota to overtime, or Minnesota or Yale we were 96 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: down two to twenty nine seconds to go a top 97 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: seventy five team, none of that. They don't actually care. 98 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: And again, it it it. It doesn't bother me from 99 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: the context of my job. I understand. My job is 100 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: I understand where we are who are trying to build. 101 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: Nobody cares where the program was, academic probation, where you 102 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: are financially all the things you do or nobody cares 103 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: about that. It's fine. What I care about is what 104 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: Jayce has long said about Stephen A. Smith. Don't say 105 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: you're a journalist. Don't say you're any sort of publication 106 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: and not be able to do the actual journalist stuff. 107 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: And when I've made mistakes in journalism, that's where I've 108 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: gone wrong, right, That's where I've gone wrong. And my 109 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: argument was always it was opinion based. Now you're allowed 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: to have an opinion, right, but that's when it's in 111 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: the context of an editorial. That's when you're in print 112 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: work editorial. So I feel a tremendous amount of simple 113 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: and empathy for people who have this done to them. 114 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: And this is year two and whatever it is I did, 115 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: I never slept with your girlfriend and your wife, so 116 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: that's not it. I'm sorry if I made it as 117 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: a basketball player, a basketball analyst, and a sports radio host. 118 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that. I'm not sorry that I got a job, 119 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: and I'm actually done with you. I do will you 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: do what? 121 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: Like? 122 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: There's plenty of guys Mike Bibby got a job. He 123 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: ain't been coaching in college either. He was a great player, 124 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: then he was a high school coach and successful one, 125 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: and then he got a job attack State. Nobody said 126 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: boo about whether or not he should have a job 127 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: or shouldn't have a job. It's just because I have 128 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: opinions about sports, and maybe you don't like my opinions 129 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: about sports, and that's tough, that's too bad. But if 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna tell a story, tell the story, not just 131 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: the parts or just make up that a conversation with 132 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: me and Josh Moon when there's a pretty good video 133 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: and there's kind of nothing to it, it's like what 134 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: I just I'm blown away by it, and I'm sorry 135 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: that I live in your head rent free, but you're 136 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: actually helping me when you're trying to hurt me. That's it, 137 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: It's really the end of it. Let's get to the 138 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: last night's football game. Truly enjoyable to watch Eagles lose, 139 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: right because Eagles fans know you don't like us and 140 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: we don't care. But man, what a tough one for 141 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Jalen hurts Man for a tough one to Jailing hurts 142 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: I think in game they told us no player had 143 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: turned the ball over twice in one possession in the 144 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: modern era. That's the post nineteen seventy two of football. 145 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: I had never seen that before, but Jay Stu that 146 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: felt the fumble on the interception felt like a charger play. 147 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: The fumble of the fumble after the interception was just 148 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: a this is not going to be Jalen Hurts night. 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: Right when you saw that happen when they pick up that, 150 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: I had flashbacks of the Patriots playoff game right when 151 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 2: they when the Chargers were fourteen and two. You know 152 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: who's gonna know who the player was and the year was? 153 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: That's Dan Byer. 154 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: Dan. 155 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Do you know what year and what player was made 156 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: the interception? 157 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: Oh? 158 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: I completely forgot. Yeah, I'm sorry. 159 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: And my only hope Dan, I know you're literally my 160 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: only hope. But I'm watching last night and I'm like, 161 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: that usually happens to us, doesn't it? That usually happens 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: to us. That that's usually the time in which we 163 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: screw the thing up. As when I'm saying us, I'm 164 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: saying Chargers and you're like, wait, the Eagles suddenly become 165 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: the Keystone Cops where they throw an interception, get a 166 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: fumble back and fumbled again, Jaseter, you had to be 167 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: watching that game thinking this is the most Charger play ever, 168 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: only it happened to the Eagles. 169 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 6: Usually that when the ball does never almost never bounces 171 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 6: the Charger's way. Uh until bag joined So this is 172 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: this is like a ear plus running. Uh. But you 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: were at the game, I want to say that night 174 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 6: that there was a fumble and Tyreek Hill just picked 175 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: up the ball and ran in front eighty yards. 176 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: Typical Charger play. Like like that game. 177 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 6: That was the perfect Chargers play. 178 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: There was that three years ago. I want to say 179 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: was three years ago, two or three years ago, and 180 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: it was after the Emmanuel Acho. Uh, he's a social 181 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: media quarterback about Jessin Herbert. And I'm watching the game 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: and the Chargers are like completely dominating the game except 183 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: for two plays. Tyreek Hill I think, either beat him 184 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: deep for a play and that was a touchdown and 185 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: then he literally picked up the fumble and it wasn't 186 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: supposed to be to him and runs in for touchdown. 187 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: And you're and and you're just thinking to yourself, like 188 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: that's the Chargers. They're way better and they end up 189 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: go what an experience to watch somebody else do something. 190 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: You're like, wait, did they switch uniforms before the game, 191 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: because that was Chargers And then of course, yeah, here's 192 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: here's the play last night. Jalen Hurdts throwing interception, getting 193 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: it back on the fumble and then fumbling himself. 194 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: It's empty for Hurtz wats quarterback draw and here comes 195 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 7: a blitz from dayon. 196 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 8: Can't get their intercepted, big man. Oh, and the ball 197 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 8: is out and the ball is out again and the 198 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 8: Chargers fall on it. My goodness, that's an interception, a 199 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 8: fumble recovery by the offense, and a fumble recovery by 200 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 8: the defense. Let's get it all sorted out. When it's 201 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 8: all uncovered, it's Troy Don. It's got the ball. 202 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: The year was two thousand and six. The Chargers were 203 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: fourteen and two. Marty Schottenheimer was the coach. It was 204 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: fourth and five in the fourth quarter with six twenty 205 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: five to go. The Chargers were up twenty one to thirteen, 206 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: and Tom Brady was picked off at the Chargers thirty 207 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: by Marlin McCree Marlona McCree. All he had to do 208 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: was go down. Instead, he was stripped of the football 209 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: by Troy Brown. Troy Brown, of course, did he play 210 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: both sides of the football that year? 211 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: They put him as a dB at times. Yes, I 212 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: do remember that. Yeah. 213 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: And Marla McCree makes a pick, gets stripped and the 214 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: Patriots rebound score a touchdown. Get a two point conversion 215 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: and then won the game when the Chargers when Nate 216 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: Catie missed a fifty four yardfield goal, the most Charger 217 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: thing ever. And I'm watching last night and I saw 218 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: the fumble him like, oh no, no, Barley McRae, and 219 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: then Jim Hurts gets and he fumbles again. So the 220 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: times are a change. 221 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: In By the way, when Doug did his piece on 222 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: the chair throwing last week, there was a comment on 223 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: the Instagram post that was so true and someone who 224 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: was making fun of me that I was comparing your 225 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: job to fantasy football and how we would want to 226 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: throw a chairrit during fantasy football. I was going up 227 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: against Chargers defense last night. Guys. That's four points. That 228 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: was two turnovers on one play for the Chargers defense. 229 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the minute I had taken I had 230 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: taken the Chargers defense off of my team a couple 231 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: of games ago. I forget who they played against, Like, ah, 232 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: they're all banged. 233 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: Up, Na, what a load of crap. It was nuts. 234 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: It was so so nuts, what a what a crazy, 235 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: crazy play. And by the way, I I I am 236 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: in the I am in the playoffs or no, yeah, yeah, 237 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm in the championship quarterfinal. Here of my fantasy team, 238 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: but I stupidly took the Chargers off my roster. And 239 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: then last night two turnovers in one play. All Right, 240 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: the story of the night was Jalen Hurts five turnovers 241 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: granted two in one play. Here's Jalen Hurts talking about 242 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: the loss. 243 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 9: I knew it was going to be a tight window throw. 244 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 9: I'd have to watch the film to see see it 245 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 9: from the eyes film's point of view. Ultimately, it's a 246 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 9: play that I didn't make. 247 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: You got to handle the ball. 248 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 9: That's a play that we've we've made a million times 249 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 9: in that scenario versus a cloud corner, and I didn't 250 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 9: make that play this time around. 251 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 10: Definitely stams, Definitely steams. But how do you respond? And 252 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 10: that's the only way I know how to look at it? Again, 253 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 10: You're gonna see what type of resolve does does does 254 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 10: his team have with that? What type of resolve do 255 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 10: we have within with What's what's in us to respond 256 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 10: the way we want to? So what you got to dig? 257 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Yep uh. Here's Nick Sirianni, their head coach, on Jail 258 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: and Hurtsnight. 259 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 11: This game is the ultimate team game. So it's all. 260 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 11: It's never you know, it's never just on one person. Now, ultimately, 261 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 11: he always has the ball in his hands, and I 262 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 11: know he'll he'll wear a lot of that and and 263 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 11: on that, and and I got to do a better 264 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 11: job of helping them in those scenarios. Again, it's always 265 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 11: it's never just on execution rights. It's always that we 266 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 11: look at ourselves as coaches first and we help them 267 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 11: be in position to succeed and then execute right. So 268 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 11: obviously never want to turn the ball over. We've been 269 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 11: pretty good at that, and tonight was a little uncharacteristic 270 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 11: of ourselves. 271 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I would, I would say, so, you know, 272 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: it is it is curious that the Eagles really tried 273 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: to get the ball to aj Brown, really try to 274 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: get the ball to Aj Brown. You know, he had 275 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: four drops. One drop led to an interception. He is 276 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: immensely talented. He doesn't block, and you know, so oftentimes 277 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: we had been critical or people had been critical of 278 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: the Eagles for the staleness of their offense and how 279 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: much they run the football. But this is one of 280 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: those things that can happen when you throw the football, 281 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: and that's not always the strength of your quarterback. They 282 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: were dominating the game with Saquon Barkley. He had one 283 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two yards rushing six point one yards 284 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: of carry. Granted the fifty two yard run ends up 285 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: skewing it, but they're suddenly not running Jalen Hurts hardly 286 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: at all, Like they went from using him as a 287 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: weapon to now not utilizing him. And it's really interesting 288 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: what's happening to the Eagles this year and what's happening 289 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: to the Ravens this year where you have two of 290 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: the most dynamic weapons as quarterbacks, and whether they're trying 291 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: to protect them for the playoffs or whether they feel 292 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: like it limits their offense. Lamar Jackson doesn't run as often, 293 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: obviously doesn't isn't moving the same, But it's like you're 294 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: trying to make Lamara Jackson into Philip Rivers. And I 295 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: think the same of Jalen Hurts. Like last year's style 296 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: was good, good enough to win them a Super Bowl. 297 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: Why are you trying to force him to be somebody 298 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: and throw the ball forty times when you're running the 299 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: hell out of the ball against the Chargers, especially in overtime, 300 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: when you're already in fueld goal range, and by forcing it, 301 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: you end up turning the ball over, especially when Jalen 302 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: Hurts had a tough night. 303 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 12: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 304 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 12: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 305 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 12: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 306 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: I want you guys to all look at your phone. 307 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 2: That's Jason Stewart, Dan Bayer and Iowa Sam. Look at 308 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: the look on buyer's face. It is it. He's looking 309 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: at it. He's got that smile like. It's a good one. 310 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: It's a good one. This is the Doug out Lip Show. 311 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh got it. I'm 312 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: going to one second. 313 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: I is this a calshy thing? 314 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: Like? 315 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: Is that? Because I do? You have to explain. 316 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going to real quick. We'll get 317 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: to that story in one second. 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The fourth interception, 327 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 8: Tony Jefferson, unbelievable. 328 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 6: Unce does it? 329 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: Uh? That's our our guy, Matt money Smith with the call. 330 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 7: Uh. 331 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: The big story of the day is former Chargers quarterback 332 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers has signed with the Indianapolis Colts as their 333 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: practice squad quarterback. This was yesterday three point thirty five 334 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: PM on the Doug Gottlieb Show with me and former 335 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Chargers GM Tom Telesco. Okay, the signing was reported at 336 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: five point fifteen, so an hour and a half later. 337 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: Here's our exchange on this very show. Here we are, 338 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: we're at December eighth. You've been in a similar situation 339 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 2: where I got to find a quarterback here you know 340 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: who's on the street, and I got a potential playoff team. 341 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 2: What's what's the process, like? How does it work well? 342 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 5: At this point, since you're past the trade deadline, you're 343 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: really your only chance is going to have to be 344 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: somebody from your own roster at this point. Unless you 345 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: just get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on the 346 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 5: street who's been in a shansteakupsike an offense before, I'd 347 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: have to look it up for the chance of their slim. 348 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: So well, I mean gonna call Philip Rivers, get him 349 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: out of retirement. 350 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Philip recently. I 351 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: mean he's coaching high school football. 352 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: Think they're right now, so I think that may. 353 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: Not work well. They signed him. The guys were chuckling 354 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 2: because I sent them a meme I saw on social 355 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: media that has Philip Rivers at Seattle like a fantasy 356 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: football sort of logo. The over under is one hundred 357 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: and twenty seven and a half pass yards and there's 358 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: a picture of Joe Biden in a Colts jersey. It 359 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: is fantastic. Whoever did that? It is fantastic, fantastic And 360 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: the best part is it made all three of you 361 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: guys smile. Right, that's the idea of sports and social media. 362 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: Stug gott Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's 363 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: welcome in John Middlecoff and a finalist host of the 364 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: Three and Out podcast, What's Gone So wrong with the 365 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: That's a great question. I mean last night was a 367 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: combination of everything. You know, Jalen's turnovers. The first two 368 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: were really bad, obviously, you know, AJ had the drop 369 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: that turned into one and the last play I'd say 370 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: is a great defensive play as much as a bad, 371 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 4: bad pass. I'd give the defense all the credit on 372 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: that one. So you got the quarterback offs. AJ talked 373 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: the big game. I mean, that wasn't exactly his you know, 374 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 4: most glorious moment last night. He dropped a touchdown, had 375 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 4: a pick. It was because of him. You know, the 376 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 4: play callings when you get into a game like that 377 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: with the quarterback who's injured, with an offensive line who's terrible, 378 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: and a team that just wants to be grimy. You know, 379 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: the Eagles tried to play like they had Josh Allen 380 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 4: or Joe Burrow playing and passed the ball around the yard, 381 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: like why didn't they have forty carries last night with 382 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: Saquon And every time on first down right they stuff 383 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: is like, oh, they're just going to go pass pass, 384 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 4: And I just think that that's the type game if 385 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 4: you reversed it. And Jim Harbaugh was the coach, Saquon 386 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: would have had forty carries and I get the offensive wise, 387 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: I was good as last year. They have clearly injuries, 388 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: got backups in there. 389 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: But he's averaging six point one yards to carry. Give 390 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: him the ball. 391 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: It's the sane And in the moment too last night 392 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: where the Chargers they they run that take push push, 393 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: He takes the house. He goes like fifty miles an hour, 394 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: so like, okay, you know this guy still got some 395 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: stuff to him. They then they force a punt, they 396 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: get the ball back. They're up sixteen to thirteen. The 397 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: Chargers are in major trouble and they start passing the 398 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: ball and two plays later, the ball goes off aged 399 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: hands and it's the interception. It's like, what are you 400 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: doing here? And that Jim's won a lot of games 401 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: that are ugly over the course of his career. That 402 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: was pretty impressive given his offensive line. You know, his quarterback. 403 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but how many times you 404 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: hold your breat thinking to like, did he break his 405 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 4: hand more when he's lying on the ground. 406 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: It was, it was, It was crazy. It's insane, But 407 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: somehow the Chargers found a way, which is the opposite 408 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: of traditional charger football. 409 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: Isn't it? It's Harbaugh Herbert toughness. The defense is obviously 410 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 4: pretty pretty gritty. I mean, Khalil, you know, it's still 411 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: a really good player. Will however, many years into his career. 412 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: I mean, he's you know, that's a good personnel move, right, 413 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: They they kept him around. They got rid of Joey 414 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 4: Bosa and they reinvested into him, and and Khalil Mack 415 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 4: is a big time difference maker. And their physicality on defense. 416 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: I mean the Eagles defense was excellent too. I mean, 417 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 4: if I'm if I'm one of the Eagles defenders, I'm like, 418 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: what are we doing? 419 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: Well? 420 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 4: We're dominating this game? How are we losing it? And 421 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: it's like, well yet ten turnovers? 422 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: Ten turnovers? 423 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: Show the double turnover. I mean it's an Alzheimer, isn't it? 424 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: Alzheimer? Alzheimer never say anything like it. I thought it 425 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: was a Marlon McCree play. And then all of a sudden, uh, 426 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: hes Hrge fumbles it. Hrge fumbles it as well. You 427 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: do a lot of gambling, Okay, everybody is up in arms, 428 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: and you talk a lot of gambling on the Three 429 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: and Out podcast, as well, the only thing I can 430 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: think of with Pete Carroll kicking that field goal was 431 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: you're just trying to keep it close and it looks 432 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: better on the scoreboard. Right here's Pete Carroll explaining why 433 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: he would kick a field goal to make it a 434 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: seven point game with five seconds to go. 435 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 13: I can't bend and twist and go with whatever the 436 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 13: public sentiment is, or one person sentiment for that matter, 437 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 13: regardless of who it is. I just can't do that 438 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 13: and do my job the right way to the best 439 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 13: of my abilities. So if you notice that I was, 440 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 13: I was battling with the official making a plea for 441 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 13: because we saw eight second seven, which would have given 442 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 13: us a chance to kick the field goal, kicking on 443 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 13: site kick and maybe have a second left. And then 444 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 13: when it went down to five or went down to 445 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 13: three or whatever they did, and then they put it 446 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 13: back to five whatever, then I knew it was going 447 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 13: to look like you couldn't hear U why we were 448 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 13: doing it. So there was a real clear thought what 449 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 13: we were trying to get Downe there, just to take 450 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 13: it down to the very last click. It might not 451 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 13: be good enough for you, I understand that, but that's 452 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 13: what I think. You can see what we were trying 453 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 13: to do. It just didn't work out. 454 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: Do you think there's is Do you believe in the 455 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: conspiracy theory that he was trying to stick it to 456 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: the Broncos and so they didn't cover. 457 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: I kind of believe what he's staying there. I mean, 458 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 4: I think at this point in time, the Raiders are 459 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: down so bad. You know, every point like a point 460 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: of pride for them. You know, I think Pete Carroll's 461 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 4: at the point. He's so rich he couldn't even be 462 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: bought if they tried. I truly believe, you know, it's 463 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: always compete. You know, it makes sense, right, He's hoping 464 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 4: they're closer to ten seconds and maybe they got a 465 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 4: free chance to gike a field goal and then throw 466 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: a bomb. Now clearly once it's like he explained, I 467 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: hadn't even heard his audio, but it does make more 468 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 4: sense than just I was really watching it live. It 469 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: was on one of the other TVs, But I mean 470 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: that game was a joke, and then I watching the 471 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: replay it was kind of embarrassing. But I do understand 472 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: what he's saying. You could argue the referees call him 473 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: the delay of game or whatever was under tens like, 474 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: what are we doing? Just get out of there. 475 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, it was it was crazy. What's happened 476 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: to Lamar Jackson? 477 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: Well, clearly he's injured, because physically he doesn't look great, 478 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: you know, And I think anytime you see this a 479 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: lot in the NBA, right, like a freak athlete when 480 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: they're not moving right, You're like, something's a little off. 481 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 4: And you know, he's been banged up throughout the year 482 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: and a huge part of his game is predicated on 483 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: the movement, on the running around, and it's just it's 484 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: just not there. And you can tell from a dynamic 485 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: standpoint he looks a shell of himself. And then he's 486 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 4: not playing well on top of that, and they just 487 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: they just look off. And I mean that was I 488 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 4: mean they were down twenty to nine at one point 489 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: in that game. I mean, Rogers clearly kind of was 490 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: a throwback game for him. It looked pretty good. And yeah, 491 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: I mean obviously they needed a little you know, referee, 492 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: whether the letter of the law, I mean forever when 493 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 4: we were kids. Obviously the basketball rule is the best, right, 494 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: It's two guys with the sideline, whether you're playing in 495 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: the NBA or whether you're playing a pickup game, you 496 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: always knew, okay, it's your ball, And now the slow 497 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 4: motion replay it's like, oh, Mike, what, it's off his fingernail. 498 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: It's no different with the Cats, Like historically, of course 499 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: that's a catch touchdown. But I do think with technology 500 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: we have almost overcomplicated the game in parts that used 501 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 4: to be a no brainer, like that's a touchdown. 502 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: You move on, Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 503 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: The Packers beat the Bears, did you learn more about 504 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: the Packers or the Bears? 505 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I have picked Packers and go to 506 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, so, like, I know, their high ends pretty high. 507 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 4: I mean Jordan's well, Watson coming back has really changed. 508 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: He's got five touchdowns in four games. He looks so fast, 509 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, I all the pressure was on Green Bay. 510 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you had to win that game at home, 511 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: and they were at fourteen to three. They came out ready. 512 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: It was impressive. I learned a lot about the Bears. 513 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 4: I mean that's seventeen play, nine minute drive in a 514 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 4: spot where you had to have it with some of 515 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 4: those play calls by Ben and you know, Caleb's making 516 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: a lot of plays on the move. You know, it 517 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: was it was really impressive, and you know, I think 518 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: part of the reasons I like the Broncos this week. 519 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: Can green Bay mass that level for three straight weeks? 520 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: I mean that was that was a war zone game 521 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: really for both teams. Same thing with Chicago. You know, 522 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: now they're a little lucky they get the Browns, but 523 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: if Chicago was playing a you know, a good team, 524 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: I'd be like, it's coming off that game. That takes 525 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 4: a lot out of you for both teams. And I 526 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be a tough spot for green Bay 527 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: going on the road knowing they got Chicago the following 528 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: week that if they if they fiffy sweep them, they're 529 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: in pretty good shape. Right. So if you told them 530 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: at the beginning of this three game stretch, hey, you're 531 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: gonna go you know, two and one, they would pick 532 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: the two Bears games, right. So I'm a little interested 533 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: to watch green Bay and Chicago like that. That's the game, 534 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: you know forever, it was like if you played the 535 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: Lions the next week, you know, a couple of years ago, 536 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: you would get boat raced. It happened with the forty 537 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: nine Ers a couple of years ago too, just because 538 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 4: those games physically take so much out of you, and 539 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: that was I'm glad the Bears are good because that 540 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 4: game was That was theater. I mean, that was that 541 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 4: second half was as good of football game as you're 542 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 4: gonna watch that. 543 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: It was great high level NFL football games. Doug Gottlieb 544 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. For my money, you can't 545 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: have Shador Sanders next year unless he's going to be 546 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: the starter, and you don't draft somebody in the first round, 547 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: right because there's just too much noise that follows him. 548 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: Is that is that a fair statement? 549 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean you're not gonna draft a guy two 550 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: overall and have Shador Sanders and you know at the right. 551 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, he could be a backup, but all 552 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: the noise that follows him, you can't. It doesn't work, right, 553 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: It'll always well. 554 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: Under because it's like, what are you going to have 555 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: a quarterback competition? Are you going to give it to 556 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: the first rounder than everyone? 557 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: You're going to give it to the first round that's right? 558 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: Okay? 559 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: Uh, where are you in the idea of he's going 560 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: to be the starter long term? 561 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: Well? I mean, I definitely think it depends where they land. 562 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: I also think, you know, Shador listened. I mean, he 563 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: was a better prospect in most people's mind. I would 564 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: imagine if you pulled most NFL gms still and Gabriel 565 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: is like a borderline undrafted free agent. So I think 566 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: the indictment on the Browns is like, you guys pulled 567 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: the trigger on a third round pick, which is pretty powerful, 568 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: and you took a guy that most teams would have 569 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: been like, this guy does not your talented enough, and 570 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: then we watched him playing. I'm like, I don't know, man, 571 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: this is kind of crazy. So now we're going to 572 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: give you guys the juice to do it again, you know, 573 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: on a really really high pick. I mean, if I 574 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: was in listen, it doesn't happen very often anymore, but 575 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: I would be if if I'm like Fernando Mendoza, I'm like, 576 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: i am not going to Cleveland. You know, It's one 577 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: of those where you got to pull an l Away 578 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: or an Eli, like I'm not messing with that. And 579 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: you could argue all the teams that are gonna be 580 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: in the mix, like it's like do you want to 581 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: go play? I mean, this sounds crazy because he's a 582 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: legendary guy, but this Pee Carroll situation, I don't want that. 583 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 4: I mean these teams, like, I want no part of 584 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: any of these teams drafting high. So you know, Chador 585 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: is clearly an upgrade over Dylan Gabriel. We'll see and 586 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: you know, there's a big and a lot of people 587 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: are paying attention to this week. He's playing games, getting 588 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 4: a lot of eyeballs. You keep making explosive plays. I 589 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: mean the one throw that he made to Judy for 590 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: the touchdown. No Judy was opened behind the defenders, but 591 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: it was a dry throw, like it was really nice. 592 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: He's always been able to have those touch throws in 593 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: the end zone, like Shaduar has a lot of touch. 594 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: He just got to be careful sometimes. I think he 595 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 4: thinks he's like Caleb Williams and he tries to run 596 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: away and it doesn't really work because he's not He's 597 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: not his father. So that was a pretty promise. And 598 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 4: I get some Titans, but relative to what they were 599 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: used to with Dylan Gabriel, it's like, yeah, I mean 600 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: shaudor the Deshaun Watson story breaking last weekend too, was 601 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 4: kind of weird, Like what Cleveland is just a mess? 602 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stop breaking news that Clive is mess. Last thing? 603 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: What's the chances Philip Rivers takes a snap this year? 604 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: How awesome is it? Can you what time do you 605 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: think if his workout was at nine o'clock this morning? 606 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: Do you think he was like in the hotel gym 607 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: stretching of six am? 608 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 609 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 4: I mean he approached this thing like the super Bowl, 610 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: And that's why we all love him, I think, really. 611 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously DJ's gone is an answer. Richardon on 612 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: into reserve and I saw Sike and said, yesterday, I 613 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 4: mean part of the reason why I was like, why 614 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: are they doing? Is Riley Leonards injured? So it shows 615 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: you and which I respect, Like, don't go sign some 616 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 4: you know Dedmond Ritter, you talk, you can't. 617 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: You have to sign someone who knows the system. 618 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just got it. Turns out Phillipson running it 619 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: with his high school team right and him as Shane 620 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: or boys. I mean they've known each other right forever. Now, 621 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 4: I mean he wasn't moving well whatever four or five 622 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: years ago. I nope, you know this is the league 623 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: where he kind of got to move there aren't many 624 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: statutes anymore, and he's never had the greatest arm. I 625 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: would imagine if he was throwing eighty eight, what's he 626 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: throwing now eighty two? It's I you better be careful, 627 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: you know, It's just you could get injured those bones. 628 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: There's no way he's been training the same. I respect it, 629 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: and I get the Colts, but it could also be 630 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: kind of something scary could happen. I mean he could. 631 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: That's actually what a GM friend of mine was like, 632 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: this might not be safe. My thing is, I think 633 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: they brought him in. He may play a game. I 634 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: don't think he can play multiple games, but he becomes 635 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: the quarterback whisper to whoever is actually the quarterback, because 636 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: he knows this thing cold and like the de facto 637 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: quarterback coach for whoever is actually out there. 638 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: This thing is unraveling on that. I mean for a 639 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: team that you know, traded two first round picks for 640 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: soft gardener, obviously he's injured their quarterback situation. I mean 641 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: you start looking at that that that schedule, you go, 642 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 4: is this team gonna finish eight to nine? I mean, 643 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: even if the Rivers started, honestly, they could be worse 644 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 4: with Rivers than they would Riley Leonard, right, So it's 645 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 4: kind of I mean, I don't remember a turn of 646 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: events that you go, oh, this thing because one thing 647 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: to lose and finish, you know, bad like the Eagles 648 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: right now or a couple of years ago, but not 649 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: have your first round picks. That's pretty that's a The 650 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: Jet's gotta be feeling pretty good about that trade right now, 651 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: don't they. 652 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: Yes, they do. That's that's our guy, John Minocoff. You 653 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: can check out the Three and Out podcast the Volume 654 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: Podcast Network. John, thanks so much for joining us. 655 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 12: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 656 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 12: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 657 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: It's The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Top of 658 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: Next Hour, Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon. What is that? 659 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: It's the stories that you should have had. We should 660 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 2: had time to get into what we did because it's Monday. 661 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: Is too much other stuff to get to before we 662 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: get to that. Let's get to a game. Here's Dan Buyer. 663 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 12: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. 664 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: All right, Doug, the game today is rank them? All right, 665 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: Doug ranked the top three teams in the NFL through 666 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 3: fourteen weeks of the regular season. 667 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna go two NFC teams three and two, 668 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: and then AFC team one. I'm gonna go Rams at three, 669 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: go Peckers at two, and I'm gonna go the Pats 670 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: at one. Patriots won. The Seahawks didn't make the Listen. 671 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: The reason is Dan hasn't been touting his own team, 672 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 2: which I can't figure out. Either that means he doesn't 673 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: want us to tout them he thinks it'll jinx it 674 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: or he doesn't think they're that good. I don't know 675 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: which one they are. 676 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: I think they're really really good. 677 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I actually think they are too. But this is 678 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: the first time you've said that that that I can remember. 679 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: You guys, remember Sam. Do you remember him talking about 680 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: how good I actually verbalizing saying I think they're really good. 681 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: No? 682 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 6: No, here, here's what it is. Dan has reacted to 683 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 6: our topics for the Seahawks. He just has not offered 684 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 6: up his own topic. He has not set time to 685 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 6: talk about it. 686 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 2: And again, this is me knowing you know your team, right, 687 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: it's your team. You watch him. Plus you're there every 688 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Sunday doing your radio show. So I'm like man, and 689 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 2: he just doesn't want us to jinx it or he 690 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: doesn't think they're that good. Yeah, I think you just 691 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: don't want to jinx it. 692 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 3: I think there I did proclaim they're the best team 693 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 3: in the NFL when we had to fill in for you, Monci, 694 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: and I see that I didn't. 695 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I apologize for nothing anyway, Go ahead. 696 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: Rank the top three NFL MVP candidates. 697 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: I want to go Jordan Love three, Drake May two, 698 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: and Matt Stafford one. Matt Stafford won. 699 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: For Getting a Lot of Love. 700 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that Josh Allen is right there 701 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: in the mix of two to three, But I think 702 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: right now Stafford's the. 703 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: Favorite right now, one to two, Drake May two to one. 704 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 3: To your point, Jordan Love is eleven to one. All right, Doug, 705 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 3: that's that's the fourth highest sage, right, Yeah, Josh Allen's 706 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 3: just ahead of Jordan Love and uh again, Sam Darnold 707 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: for some reason, as ahead of Jackson Smith and Jigball. 708 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: Who knows? All right, Doug, rank your three most memorable 709 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy winners ceremony, whether it be seasons however you 710 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: want to do it. But the three most memorable Heisman's. 711 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: I would go Charles Woodson because he was a defensive player, 712 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: all right, Charles Woodson, because he's a defensive player, that 713 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: would be three. I think rocket Ishmael is two. I 714 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: mean he was Notre Dame. Notre Dame football was bigger 715 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: than anything back then. Plus his nickname is the Rocket, right. 716 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: And then I think Desmond Howard honestly is number one one, 717 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: mostly because the play, the Heisman pose. It just all worked, 718 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: just all worked. 719 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: All right. Finally, Doug, rank your favorite NFL fan base 720 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: that you like to see lose. 721 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: Ooh, Jets at three. That's because we only talk about 722 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: the Jets because most New York sports most New York 723 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: sports guys become big name sports guys, but they want 724 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: to talk about Syracuse, the Jets, and the Mets in 725 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: the Islander or the Rangers. Two is the Cowboys, and 726 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: number one is the Eagles. Everybody likes to see them 727 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: lose down and that's the game time all right? Coming up? 728 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 2: Don't call it throwback or excuse me. Tuesday morning Quarterback 729 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: in the afternoon next to the Doug Gotlib Show.