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Episode two 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: eighty seven. Uh, today you are not going to be 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: able to see us. Today is an audio only show 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: due to some technical difficulties. So because of that, we'll 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: also do the show a little bit differently. Sometimes we 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: produce it up kind of like it's a TV show 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: with some elements and stuff. Since today we don't have 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: the visual elements for it, We're gonna do it the 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: way we used to do our gambling shows on Thursdays 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: or Fridays, where Demanse and I will go through every 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: game on the slate and then eventually get to the 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: actual but five picks we're making demands will do his teaser, 21 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: so we'll do it that way. Also, I guess this 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: is kind of weird because if you're already listening to this, 23 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: you're probably already subscribed on audio. But that means you're 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: our most dedicated audio listener, so like rate, subscribe, review iTunes, Spotify, 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And if you're like, oh man, I 26 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: always listen this way, I'm not that, you can also 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: subscribe to the YouTube page, which typically is where we 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: go live for these things. Demonse, how are you? 29 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good, Pops. How are we doing today? 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. It is one of the most important 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Thursday night football games of the year tonight. That's the 32 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: first one. We'll start with Denver at the Chargers. The 33 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: Chargers laying two and a half. So here's the weird 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: spot for this game before I give any analysis of it. 35 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: The Bengals have been left for dead. However, they're not 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: for the bank. There's like, oh, there's all these different 37 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: scenarios they need and I'm not saying Cincinnati is going 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: to be able to execute the following scenarios, but it 39 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: is quite simple. What Cincinnati needs to make the playoffs. 40 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: They need to win their remaining games. And why am 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: I talking about Cincinnati here, because they need to win 42 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: their remaining games, and they need the loser of tonight's 43 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: game to lose its remaining games, and so they need 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: to win out, and whoever loses tonight, they need them 45 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: to lose out, which is why from a playoff pictures standpoint, 46 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: the team with eight wins in this game is actually 47 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: in far better shape than the team with nine wins. 48 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: So let me explain that the Chargers come in eight 49 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: and six, the Broncos come in nine to five, but 50 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: the Chargers after tonight, and if the Chargers win tonight, 51 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: they're locked in. The Chargers after tonight have the Patriots 52 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: and the Raiders, So even if the Chargers lose tonight, 53 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: if they can just win one of those games, they're 54 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: going to be fine. Denver, on the other hand, after 55 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: tonight is at Cincinnati and then has the Chiefs in 56 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Week eighteen, in a game the Chiefs may or may 57 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: not neat, and so the loser of tonight is up 58 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: against it. Oddly, the loser of tonight is more up 59 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: against it. If the nine win Denver team loses, than 60 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: if the eight win Charger team loses. I this is 61 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: not one of my picks, but I do like the 62 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: Chargers in this spot because I think these are two 63 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: of the best defenses, and while Denver's offense has been 64 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: humming statistically speaking, I watched them this past weekend against 65 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: the Colts in what was a massively important game for 66 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: them in their playoff chances, and they try desperately to 67 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: give that game to the Colts, and the Colts simply 68 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't take it. So I if I again, not one 69 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: of the picks, but my lean tonight would be that 70 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers get the win. And I'm here to tell 71 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: you if that happens, it is on the board that 72 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: Denver misses the playoffs entirely. Let me ask you this demanse. 73 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: Of these two teams, let's say Baltimore and we'll get 74 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: to them later ends up winning the AFC North and 75 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Baltimore gets the three seed. They beat Pittsburgh this week 76 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: and they end up winning the AFC North, they get 77 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: the three seed. Which of these two teams would you 78 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: rather your Ravens playing Round one? Because one of them's 79 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: almost assuredly gonna be the sixth seed, So Denver or 80 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: the Chargers. 81 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: I'd have to lean Denver. I'd rather play Denver Er honestly, 82 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm sorry, wrong, wrong, I'd rather play 83 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: the Chargers. I've seen some meltdowns the Broncos. It's it's 84 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: it's a tough one for me, just because you know, 85 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: obviously a rookie quarter But the Sean Payton situation, I 86 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: think they've got something going on over there. But I've 87 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: seen some bad. 88 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: So so here totally fair. You were sitting with me 89 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: when they had the meltdown against the Jags. Here's what 90 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: I do want to say about the Chargers and the 91 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: overarching story of the Chargers and Justin Herbert. So, Herbert 92 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: is going to finish his fifth year of his career 93 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: with basically all of the records for quarterbacks through five seasons, yards, touchdowns, 94 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have the most of any quarterback 95 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: in either of those categories. He also, this year it's 96 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: gonna be another year he doesn't make the Pro Bowl. 97 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: It's potentially another year they don't win double digit games, 98 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: and it is going to be an odd spot if 99 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: five years into his career, Justin Herbert has one double 100 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: digit win season ten and seven, one playoff appearance, one 101 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl appearance, zero playoff victories, and zero A level 102 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: seasons that aren't grated on the rookie curve. I know 103 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: the talent is there, and I'm not the you know 104 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: a lot of those seasons previously that went at Rye. 105 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: I'm not laying totally at his feet, but five years in, 106 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: you would have liked to see more improvement from Justin Herbert. 107 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: His passer rating and that's not everything, but his passer 108 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: rating by year ninety eight, ninety seven, ninety three, ninety three, 109 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: ninety seven. His yards per game have plummeted this season. 110 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: That's more a stylistic thing. His completion percentage has hovered 111 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: right around sixty five sixty six percent his whole career. 112 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: His yards per attempt have been right in the low 113 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: sevens every year throughout his career. He just seems so 114 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: much like the same player he was as a rookie. 115 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: And the reason we loved him as a rookie was 116 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: because it's like, man, he's already this good think of 117 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: how good he's going to get, and we didn't quite 118 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: to me, we haven't seen that leap all right, next 119 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: game is Texans Chiefs. And that's not one of my 120 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: official five picks, Demanse, but it is because I made 121 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: what I think is one of the sharpest bets anyone 122 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: has made in the NFL all year. So, and I 123 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: have the text history to show it to prove it. 124 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to We're not on camera right now, 125 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: so I can't post it anyway. Monday afternoon at work, 126 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 2: was it Monday or Tuesday? No, it was Tuesday, Tuesday 127 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: at work, I said to Wilds and Greg. I was like, 128 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are gonna practice today. The practice report's gonna 129 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: come out. Mahomes is going to have practiced in some capacity, 130 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: and this line is gonna flip. And I texted my 131 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: gambling kind of group chat, and I texted my bookie, 132 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: who's You're like, why do you need a bookie? Gambling's legal. Well, 133 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: sometimes you're trying to get stuff in last minute, or 134 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: sometimes you're out of state. I texted all of them 135 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: and I was like, Hey, I'm not gonna try to 136 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: you know, I don't have inside information here, but I'm 137 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: telling you guys, right now, I believe Patrick Mahomes is 138 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: playing in this football game. And the Chiefs at that 139 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: moment were plus two points and plus one ten on 140 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: the money line, and around two pm Tuesday, I fired 141 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: a nice three unit bet on the Chiefs money line 142 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: at plus one ten. It now sits at minus one 143 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: seventy and the Chiefs are three and a half point 144 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: favorites based purely off the belief in the indication that 145 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Mahomes is going to play. Which has have you? Have 146 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: you seen come across your timeline these lunatic fans of 147 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: other teams that are now claiming Mahomes fakes these injuries. 148 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have seen it. Just to make the dove 149 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: that much more spicy or the pathway, whatever you want 150 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: to call it. But I'm also super surprised that you're 151 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: so like, you know, get Mahomes out there. He's gonna play, 152 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: and as opposed to like, oh, you know, him taking 153 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: a step back for a game. 154 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: Let me be clear, if we're up to me, he 155 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: would not play. I think Carson Wentz can be. The 156 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: Texans to me are not a great team, and I 157 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: think that their offensive line problems with Chris Jones and 158 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: now Charles Aminahu back healthy and George carloftis I think 159 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: the Chiefs can get after CJ. Stroud in a very 160 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: real way and cause real problems. So it's not about 161 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: what I want to have happen. It's about what I 162 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: think is going to happen. Now. The Mahomes injury stuff, 163 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: I do have to say it is it adds to 164 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: my list of man I worry about the literacy literally 165 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: and figuratively of society. When there are conspiracy theories about 166 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: injuries that we saw take place, people were like, oh, 167 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: the like the the only other time Mahomes suffered a 168 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: significant ankle injury. We saw it happen in the playoff game. 169 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: We saw him barely be able to walk. We saw 170 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: afterwards him fighting not to get an X ray, the 171 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: whole thing. We saw how he looked. We saw it 172 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: when the Jackson player did right, did the knee drop tackle, 173 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: and on Sunday we saw it. You saw his legs 174 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: get bent back, him get crushed, get high loaded. We 175 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: saw it happen. So it's not like a situation where 176 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, report out of Kansas City Mahomes got 177 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: dinged in practice and they're worried he's not going to 178 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: be able to play like that. That isn't what's happening here. 179 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: So I'm legitimately surprised that this narrative exists, but maybe 180 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be. I So, with all that said, they're 181 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: not one of my picks demands because I don't the 182 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: Chiefs don't cover field goal spreads and listen, I do 183 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: think they're gonna win. But on general gambling principle, if 184 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: you could have gotten the Chiefs getting two and a half, 185 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: betting them now laying three and a half is insane. 186 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna spit skip Pittsburgh Baltimore because that's gonna be 187 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: one of the picks. Brown's Bengals's next one. And Bengals 188 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: now find themselves in this very weird spot. They're seven 189 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: and a half point favorites. Let's just assume, okay, for 190 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: the sake of argument, that they win this week. They 191 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: could demand be facing in back to back weeks teams 192 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: with nothing to play for, which here's the spot they 193 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: could be in. If the Broncos win tonight, the Broncos 194 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: lock up a wild card spot tonight, and they play 195 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: the Broncos next week this they play the Steelers in 196 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Week eighteen, which very well could be at that point 197 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: locked into the three seed, can't go higher, can't go lower, 198 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: and how that will play out now, as I talked 199 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: about earlier, if the Broncos lose tonight, then Bengals Broncos, 200 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: damn near becomes a playoff game. It is a playoff 201 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: game for Cincinnati, and it becomes maybe one for Denver. 202 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: Not quite because Denver would have another chance the following week. 203 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: But a you know, a tricky spot. I don't love 204 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: the way Cincinnati's played, but Cleveland going to DTR, who 205 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: they have this odd fascination with Dorian Thompson Robinson over 206 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Jamis tells me Cleveland's not trying to win, And it's 207 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: not that Jamis has played great, but he's clearly better 208 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: than DTR. So I wouldn't lay the seven and a half. 209 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: But I would be shocked if Cincinnati loses this game, 210 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: like truly shocked. Cardinals Panthers and Eagles commanders are both 211 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: picks of mine. So we're gonna wait on those Giants. 212 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: Falcons is the next one. Have you seen the line 213 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: for Giants Falcons? 214 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: It's I've got it's minus nine and a half of 215 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: the Falcons. I assume you're saying that's crazy with them 216 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: putting Pinnis in. 217 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: It's just such an indictment on the Giants. Yeah, I mean, 218 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: the Falcons have not looked good. The Holkins are starting 219 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: a rook it's a rookie's first start ever, and they 220 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: are damn near double digit favorites. Like that is a 221 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: truly baffling one to me. Not baffling, but baffling's wrong word. 222 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: It's just such a stinging indictment on the Giants team 223 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: as a whole. That you're playing a team that was 224 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: so underwhelming in last week's game that they benched their 225 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: quarterback in a win, they're gonna eat the contract, and 226 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: you're getting nearly ten points. You're getting more than two scores. 227 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: Same team that didn't cover a fourteen point spread last 228 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: week too. 229 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Giants absolutely Titans Colts. The Titans seems 230 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: like they're done with the Will Lovice experience, and the 231 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: Colts might be approaching being done with the Anthony Richardson experience. 232 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that the Colts can fully recover from 233 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: the type of loss they had this past week. Just 234 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: as bad as it gets where you're about to go 235 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: up thirteen points, Jonathan Taylor drops the ball before the 236 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: end zone. Then you run that stupid double pass. Nick 237 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Benito returns it, and you know you went from being 238 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: a coin flip to make the playoffs to being on 239 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: life supports make the playoffs. Then a really interesting one 240 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: Demons Lions Bears, with the Bears getting six and a half. 241 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: Here's why it's an interesting one. The Bears offense, particularly 242 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: in the first half of games, has been just horrific, 243 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: just as you know, and Caleb's been bad early, and 244 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: that further leads to credence to my theory that Caleb 245 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: is just being way too cautious. You know, how many 246 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: interceptions do you think he has on this eight game 247 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: when losing streak? It's none, right, I think it's zero 248 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: zero zero. Now he has a couple of strip sacks, 249 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: but zero intercept They've lost eight in a row. He's 250 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: thrown no picks, seventeen touchdowns, five interceptions on the year, 251 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: which sounds really good, but he is just refusing to 252 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: take chances with the ball down the field, which is 253 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: hurting him. And it's also why in the first half 254 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: they've been able to do nothing. But then in the 255 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: second half they're trailing, there's a deficit and he's willing 256 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: to let it rip a little bit more. Here's why 257 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: I say this is an interesting one. The Packers offense 258 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: is really good. The Bills offense is great. So the 259 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: Lion's allowing seventy nine points the last two weeks to 260 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: those two teams. Yet it's concerning, but it's like, well, 261 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: those are some of the better offenses in football. If 262 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: the Lions defense, who I don't care what Dan Campbell 263 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: tries to say publicly the Lions, He's clearly has no 264 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: faith in them, as evidence by the on site kick, 265 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: the fourth down call at the end of the previous game. 266 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: If the Lions defense lets the Bears offense look hell, 267 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: just functional, the Lions are cooked. And I don't This 268 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: is almost unfair. It's a cruelty of the NFL. But 269 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: the at some times there's a year where a championship 270 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: level team has so many injuries concentrated on one side 271 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: of the ball, they're just done ey. To this day, 272 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: if you ask me what's the best Chiefs team ever, 273 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: my answer is the twenty twenty Chiefs. They didn't win 274 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. In fact, they got blown out in 275 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Why because they had cluster injuries on 276 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: their offensive line, and they just they all of a 277 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 2: sudden had replacement offensive linemen in the Super Bowl and 278 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: it couldn't overcome it. And I worry that something similar 279 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: has happened with Detroit. So I'm not so concerned. I'm 280 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: not concerned at all, even with the day Montgomery injury, 281 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: which sucks for them about the Lions offense, but that 282 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: Lions defense, that's something to watch this weekend, pending you 283 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: know how they are able to look against Caleb and 284 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: the Bears. All Right, Rams Jets is gonna be one 285 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: of my picks this week, so we'll get to that 286 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: in a minute. Vikings Seahawks is a really fun one 287 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: where the Seahawks are getting three points at home Seattle 288 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: after a really rough Geno game and getting blown out 289 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: by the Packers after having a nice four game winning streak, 290 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: finds themselves really on the ropes now. It is a 291 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: weird spot because their big game obviously is the Rams 292 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: in Week eighteen, but they have to at the very 293 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: least win one of their next two in order for 294 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: that game to be a big game. The Vikings quietly 295 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: just hanging out with a twelve and two record, one 296 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: seed and division still available to them, controlling their own destiny, 297 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: but a brutal final stretch of in Seattle home for 298 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: the Packers. Then at the Lions they went out. They're 299 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: the one seed, but those are also all incredibly losable games. 300 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm really curious what Brian Flores is and that defense 301 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: does against Gino. Coming off one of Gino's worst games 302 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: of the year. I probably lean Minnesota in this spot. 303 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: Patriots Bill's gonna be one of the picks. And then 304 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: we get to some ugly games Niners Dolphins, which should 305 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: have been sounded like it was going to be a 306 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: marquee game at the beginning of the year, and everybody 307 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: knows I'm interested in how Purty looks. I'm you know, 308 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: the Tua. I think the jury is out on Tua. 309 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: The jury is in. Pardon me on Tua. When things 310 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: aren't perfect, he's going to look in over his skis Dolphins. 311 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: Some Dolphins fans are still in denial, some have come around. 312 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: The pretty thing that I find interesting is he actually 313 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: has been able to do okay with different receivers, like 314 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Ayuk goes out, Juwan Jennings plays well, Deebo's not the 315 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: same guy whatever. But when Trent Williams hasn't been there, 316 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: He just has been a totally different player. Shanahan opened 317 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: the possibility this week that Trent Williams doesn't play again 318 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 2: this season, and then we remind you Trent Williams this 319 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: summer before next year turns thirty seven years old. And 320 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: the Niners obviously have a very interesting offseason ahead. Kirk 321 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Cousin's availability, Sam Darnold's availability, the report that party won 322 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: on top of market money, all of that is going 323 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: to make John let what what's crazy demand? 324 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: Say many he wanted like fifty to fifty five million 325 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: or something like that out of it? 326 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think he wants he wants. I think it's 327 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: closer to sixty. Buddy, he's next up. And so here's 328 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: the thing on quarterback money that I want to talk 329 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: about for a second that I think gets lost in 330 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: the conversation a bit. It does not really matter if 331 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: you pay the guy fifty or if you pay him sixty. 332 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: I mean it does in that that's ten million a 333 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: year he's spent another player. But that's not what makes 334 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: it good or bad. There isn't a quarterback in football 335 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: that if he was making fifty million a year you 336 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: feel good about. But it's sixty million a year, You're like, 337 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: what did we do? It's is he the guy? Is 338 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 2: he not the guy? If he's the guy, then the 339 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: price is the price, and sixty million or fifty five 340 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: million or fifty two million, it's not distinction. If he's 341 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: not the guy, then you're not gonna feel good at 342 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 2: forty five million. Forget fifty forty five million. If he's 343 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: not the guy, you're not gonna feel good about many. Well, yeah, 344 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: of course you get. 345 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: Making like thousand a year, right now, I take twenty two. 346 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: You need those guys around you. 347 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: He's not gonna take twenty That's not happen. So the 348 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: the Niners could play real hardball with him with the 349 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: leverage of you haven't made any money. Man, you've made 350 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: three million bucks in this league, Like what? And you 351 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: could play another year at a million bucks and then 352 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: we decide. But you've already suffered a bunch of injuries. 353 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: So maybe they will try to say, hey, man, you're 354 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: gonna have Baker Mayfield's deal three years, one hundred million bucks. 355 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: But the reporting is he wants Trevor's deal, and then 356 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: some five to seventy five and by the way, he 357 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: has a better resume than try. I understand that, but 358 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: he looks at what Tua got, what Trevor got, what 359 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Dak got, and said, I'm more accomplished than certainly Tua 360 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: and Trevor. It's an argument with Dak and so it 361 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: is a very interesting spot that becomes more interesting if 362 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: after one of the worst games of his career this 363 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: past Thursday, he has another bad one against a kind 364 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: of floundering Dolphins team. Jaggs Raiders is interesting only in 365 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: this regard the Raiders desperately need to lose it. Now. 366 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: You can say the Jags need to lose it too, 367 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: but the Jags draft position is not the same level 368 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: of importance for teams that aren't drafting a quarterback. Yeah, 369 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: Jacksonville would love to be able to take Travis Hunter 370 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 2: or whoever you know. The top non QB on their 371 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: board is the Raiders, though right now are fighting with 372 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: the Giants for the number one overall pick. But there 373 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: are amazingly seven teams right now seven two or three wins, 374 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: so the Raiders are one win away from all of it, 375 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: going from potentially the number one pick to potentially the 376 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: sixth or seventh pick. So this is a must lose 377 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: for both teams, There's no way around it. But it's 378 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: more of a must lose obviously for the for the Raiders, 379 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: pardon me, Bucks Cowboys. Cowboys getting three and a half, 380 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: the Bucks have to keep winning. Baker's top six in 381 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: every passing category. I like the They're not one of 382 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: my picks, but I like the Bucks in this spot. 383 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: And then another massive line, green Bay laying fourteen and 384 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: a half at home against the Saints. With the Saints 385 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: quarterback situation in total disarray, obviously green Bay should take 386 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: care of business. Okay, that leaves us with five games. 387 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: Steelers Ravens is a game, Rams Jets is a game, 388 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: pat Bills is a game. Panthers, who are the Panthers? 389 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: The Cardinals Cardinals is a game. Pardon me? And Washington 390 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: Philly is a game. We'll do those five picks plus 391 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: Demonse's teaser, next quick break, right back, what's right? All right? 392 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's right with Nick right last week, 393 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: fourth straight winning week. Demonse three and two last week. 394 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: So that means we are fourteen and six in the 395 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: last four weeks of picks, which puts us six games 396 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: above five hundred on the year forty thirty four and one. 397 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: Last week, we had the Rams plus three at the Niners, 398 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: they went out right, the Jets minus three at Jacksonville. 399 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: That one was in question for a large portion of 400 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: the game. But we got the win Bucks plus three 401 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: at the Chargers. That one was never in question. And 402 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: then two ones that we were on the wrong side of. 403 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Calnea laying two and a half against Dallas. Dallas played 404 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: one of the best games it's played all year. And 405 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: Detroit laying two and a half against Buffalo. Uh. Detroit 406 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: tried to get back in this game, but obviously could 407 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: never stop Josh Allen. So on the wrong side of 408 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: that one. All right, first one this week, Demons. 409 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, You've got Pittsburgh plus six and a half 410 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 3: at Baltimore. 411 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is I said this earlier in 412 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: the year. Mike Tomlin getting more than a field goal 413 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: in divisional games is an auto fire for me. Auto fire. 414 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: Amazing fact. This is the first game ever Lamar has 415 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: played at home against Pittsburgh with fans in the stands. 416 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: He has missed the home game against the Steelers every 417 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: year but the COVID year, which is seems impossible, but 418 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: it's true. Steelers are eight against the spread in the 419 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: history of their franchise when they're getting four or more 420 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: against the Ravens. Obviously, Lamar uh has played his worst 421 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: football against the Steelers, zero to five against the spread, 422 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: one and four straight up, and in this matchup underdog 423 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: is sixteen to two and one against the spread over 424 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: the last decade, covering by almost a touchdown each time. 425 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: And as we've said, Tomlin is an underdog against divisional 426 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: opponent twenty six, nine and two, So it's just an 427 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: auto fire Pittsburgh. Lamar struggles against this team. Now. I 428 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: don't love the Pittsburgh injuries, particularly George Pickens. We'll see 429 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: about TJ. Watt. That's not great. But the Steelers win 430 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: the division by winning this weekend. The Ravens stay alive 431 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: for the division by winning this weekend. I like Pittsburgh 432 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: plus the points. I know you're a Lamar guy, Demonse, 433 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: but I feel like you like my side of this 434 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: one too. 435 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, flashing red lights when I saw this game. Yeah, 436 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Lamar can get it done. Interested 437 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: to see how it is at home, but yeah, I mean, 438 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: the Steelers just beat them earlier this year. Six and 439 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: a half point undred dogs is kind of crazy, but. 440 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, this this line should be two and 441 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: a half, and it's six and a half. It is 442 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: just And if you want to say because of the 443 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: Pickens injury and potential Watt injury, you want to say 444 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: it's three and a half, fine, But this is disrespectful 445 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. And it's Vegas continuing to tell you they 446 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: think Baltimore is awesome and Pittsburgh's not that good, and 447 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: I disagree with that. All right, next game. 448 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: So next we've got the Rams at the Jets. 449 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rams laying three last week for the first time 450 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: all year. We bet the Jets, and I understand this 451 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: is a West Coast team going east. However, the Rams 452 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: have to have this win. The Rams since their bye, Demons. 453 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: How about this for the Rams, they started one and four. 454 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: Since the bye, they are seven and two, the same 455 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: record as the Vikings and the only teams with a 456 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: better record than the Rams over the last ten weeks 457 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: of football Eagles, Lions, Chiefs, Bills. So they have been 458 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: for the last two and a half months one of 459 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: the very best teams in the NFL. I don't trust 460 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: the Jets defense against Stafford and Company. And the Jets 461 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: just got their win. They're not going to finish the 462 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: year on this horrific losing streak. The Rams have to 463 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: have it. McVeigh by the way oddly seven to zero 464 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: going west to East as a favorite, and they've always 465 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: been a really good covering team. At the end of 466 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: the year, fourteen and two against the spread in December, 467 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: I think the Rams could could They're one of the 468 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: teams that could win the Super Bowl. The Jets are 469 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: one of the seven or eight worst teams in football. 470 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: I'll take the Rams minus three next one. 471 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: You've got New England plus fourteen and a half at Buffalo. 472 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this story went a little under the radar, 473 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: which was after the game, Josh Allen got an X 474 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: ray I think on his back because of a fall 475 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: he took. Now he said he was fine and it 476 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: was precautionary Soviet. Here's why I'm bringing that up. In 477 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: a game they have no business losing there and Josh 478 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: having such high usage the last couple weeks, They're just 479 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: gonna keep the ball as much as they can out 480 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: of his hands. No design. Josh Allen runs get the 481 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: ball out, quick, run the football, just get out of 482 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: there with a win that doesn't lend itself to a blowout. 483 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: Drake May, on the other hand, has been trying to 484 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: cover back doors spreads all year. It's a divisional game. 485 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting more than two touchdowns. It is not that 486 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: I think New England can win. It's that I just 487 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: think Buffalo is going to have a methodical, boring game 488 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: plan as they go Patriots, Jets, Patriots to end the year. Also, 489 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: bonus take here, I think that they are going to 490 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: see on Saturday the Chiefs beat the Texans, and the 491 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: dreams of the one seed will basically be dead if 492 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: that happens. If the Chiefs beat the Texans, then the 493 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: Bills path to the one seed would be they have 494 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: to go undefeated and the Chiefs have to lose their 495 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: final two games. And so I just don't think they're 496 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: going to be you know, in laser show, blow the 497 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: other team out mode. I'll take New England plus fourteen 498 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: and a half, all right, Last time. 499 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: You got Carolina plus four and a half versus Arizona. 500 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Arizona is in a weird spot where if 501 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: you look at weird spots, the wrong word. But Arizona 502 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 2: week two blew out the Rams when the Rams didn't 503 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: have any of their didn't have their guys. Since then, 504 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: they have wins by They beat the Niners by one, 505 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: they beat the Chargers by two, they beat the Dolphins 506 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 2: by one, They blew out the Bears and the Jets, 507 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: and they obviously blew out the Patriots earlier or this 508 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 2: past week, but earlier in the year, their wins were close. 509 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: In the margins late game, you know, it could either 510 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: team could win. I don't love. I didn't love honestly 511 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 2: how they played, even in that Patriot game. It's just 512 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: the Patriots can't get out of their own damn way, 513 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: and they end up, you know, being up thirty to 514 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: ten late in that game, end up winning thirty to seventeen. 515 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: I could see the Panthers winning this game. I thought 516 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: the Panthers had been playing really well and then obviously 517 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: play Laiden egg against Dallas. But the Panthers, I don't 518 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: think they are going to end their year on a 519 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: seven game losing streak. I think they're gonna get a win. 520 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: And even if they don't get a win. Uh, this 521 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: feels like a yeah, this feels like a field goal game. Yeah, 522 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: feel a divisional game in Carolina. Uh, not a divisional game. 523 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: Pardon me. Arizona's in the West, Carolina's in the South. 524 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 2: But in Carolina, getting four and a half points feels 525 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 2: like a twenty one to seventeen, twenty four to twenty 526 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: one type of game. This was, I will admit, the 527 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: hardest one. I found four games I loved, and then 528 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 2: one game I was like, well we need This was 529 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: the fifth so if you're not tailing all my picks, 530 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: this would be the one to leave out. But I 531 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: like Carolina getting four and a half in this spot. 532 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: And then the last one a game. This was my 533 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 2: fourth one and a game I like a lot. 534 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 3: Go ahead, you've got Washington plus three and a half 535 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: versus Philly. 536 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: Yeah you don't like this one, Demonsey. I can tell 537 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: from the tone of your voice. 538 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's a that's a pretty up in the 539 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 3: air one for me. Philly's humming. I mean they're looking 540 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: very good, but but yeah, I trust you. 541 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: There listen, Philly is humming Washington after their tough three 542 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: game losing streak. You know, it's gotten back on track 543 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 2: to a degree. The Saints game they were in full 544 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 2: control of kind of took their eye off the ball, 545 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: so to speak, and all of a sudden they're trying 546 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: to stop a two point conversion to avoid or horrific loss. 547 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: They also need one more win to lock up their 548 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: playoff spot now, and I think even one more win 549 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: officially won't lock it up, but to facto it would 550 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: lock it up. I don't think Washington's going to win 551 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: this game, but I do think getting three and a 552 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: half points, I think they could win. And getting three 553 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: and a half points is too big of a spread 554 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: when Washington is healthier than it was during its losing streak, Jade, 555 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 2: and I think is the Ribs finally aren't bothering him 556 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 2: and he's playing great. And when you look at Washington 557 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 2: this year, they their losses. Take out Week one to Tampa, 558 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 2: they lose the Ravens by a score, the Steelers by one, 559 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: the Eagles. That Eagles game the first time around was 560 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: really weird because that game late in the third quarter 561 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: was ten three Washington, and then there were some turnovers, 562 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: some weird plays. Saquon scored two long touchdowns within thirty 563 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: seconds of each other, and all of a sudden, Phillies 564 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: blowing them out, and so I mean by a win 565 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: probability standpoint, Washington was the favorite in that game with 566 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: ten minutes left and they end up getting you know, 567 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 2: they're down twenty six to ten, five game minutes left 568 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 2: or five game minutes later. I think this is twenty 569 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: seven to twenty four Philly and maybe twenty seven to 570 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: twenty four Washington. So I'll take the divisional dog getting 571 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: at least three and a half. So the picks are 572 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 2: as follows Pittsburgh getting six and a half, the Rams 573 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: laying three, New England getting fourteen and a half, Carolina 574 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: getting four and a half, and Washington getting three and 575 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: a half in this game. Now to Demonse's teaser, which 576 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: I tried to warn him off of last week, I 577 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: gave it a d. It sadly didn't win, but not 578 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 2: for the reason that I thought it wouldn't. I didn't 579 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: love that you crossed the zero with Cincinnati. Yeah, that 580 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 2: one was the best leg. You were nervous about those 581 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 2: twenty four points with the Giants, but luckily it was 582 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: just enough sweat. But it was actually the Chiefs forcing 583 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 2: six turnovers and blowing out the Browns well, beating them 584 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: by fourteen. That ruined you. What do you have this week? 585 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: This week is a two team seven and a half 586 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 3: point teaser at minus one sixty three and the red 587 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: blaring red lights I was talking about earlier Pittsburgh. I 588 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: had to throw in there. We got them at plus 589 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: fourteen against Baltimore, and then I teased through the zero 590 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 3: again with Tampa Bay up to plus four against Dallas. 591 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, a we obviously everything we talked about with 592 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 3: the Steelers and the ravens Lamar needs to I mean 593 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 3: not Lamar, but the Steelers. This is a this is 594 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 3: a big spot. They're not gonna get blown out fourteen points, 595 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 3: come on out and then. 596 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. I'm no, I'm fine with the 597 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 2: Steelers leg not taking to him. But listen, I think 598 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 2: you're gonna win this one. I'm gonna be honest with you, 599 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 2: but I don't like it on general principle of teaser value, 600 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: where you're laying one sixty I you're I just don't. 601 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 3: Have a hunter, like you just know something you can't 602 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 3: You're like, oh, you know, remember the rule? Like if 603 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: you know it, you know it. You know. 604 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: I feel like you're going away from what got you 605 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: on your long winning streak. I'm rooting for you. I'm 606 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: giving you a. 607 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: C minus giving as. 608 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: On this one. It is an upgrade from last week 609 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: and hopefully it wins. All right, what's the offer this week? 610 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have it in front of you. 611 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So we are headed to Atlanta. So the 612 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 3: last two or three games of two or three of 613 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 3: Pennis's college football games, he led the team to a 614 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: fueld goal drive in the first play, I mean in 615 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 3: the first drive. So we're gonna go off that same logic. 616 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 3: So he's plus four hundred to lead them to a 617 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 3: field goal in the first first drive again, or since 618 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: young Wake who is out, you could take that they 619 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: miss it at plus nineteen hundred. Okay, you like either 620 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 3: of those? 621 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: No I I I'm gonna go ahead and say I 622 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: don't like either of those, and I'm going to I've 623 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 2: never done first drive result bet, and I'm gonna keep 624 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: that streak going and decline the offer. I would take 625 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: punt as the best option, but that's plus one point fifteen. 626 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta tell you, this feels like a 627 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: crummy market. You're touchdown. You gotta say if it's passing 628 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: or rushing your I don't think, guys, I'm telling you 629 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: right now, I don't think the sharp betters of America 630 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: are betting first touchdown for first drive results. And I'm 631 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and stay out of that one myself. Well, 632 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 2: I just don't like it. I'm just not I am 633 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 2: just personally not gonna have a part of that, all right. 634 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: Hope you guys enjoyed the audio version of today's show. 635 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: Next week's schedule we'll call it in flux. 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