WEBVTT - Let's Be Clear...Continues 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:04.600 This is let's be clear with Shannon Dhorney. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.760 Hello, let's be clear friends. I want to thank you 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.720 all for all the support, outpoint of love and support 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.520 that you've given Shannon over the years and now for 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:21.599 her family. We appreciate it so very much and appreciate 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.200 all of you for all the years that you've followed 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:30.080 her and loved her. I'm sure that many of you 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:34.440 recognize me from a couple of previous podcasts that Shannon 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.840 had talked me into doing, and. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.720 All the Instagram posts over the years, and all the 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:41.479 funny thing. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:47.560 And this this podcast meant so much to Shannon because 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:51.559 it allowed her to tell her story and tell her 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:56.280 truth and over the years there's been so many stories 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.000 and untruths and things mixed up that it was just fun. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.840 She says, I want to do this and I have 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.040 so many people that have followed me over the years 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.880 and have supported me, and I just want to give 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.240 them the opportunity to hear what my life really is. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.000 And that's was part of the reason for this podcast. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:22.000 And it meant so much to me because I got 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:28.399 to watch her do this when it was so special 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.040 for her and needed it helped her so much and 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:35.000 everything that she was going through, and to hear back 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.120 from all of you and the questions that you presented 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.680 to her in the podcast when she was answering questions 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:48.000 that was important. I just want to say thank you 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.320 to everybody, and I am now going to be doing 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.680 my best to try to continue this for her because 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.240 that's what we discussed that she wanted me to do. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.440 And of course I'm not her. I could never be her. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.600 I'm not I'm not as well spoken as she was, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.160 but I'm here for all of you, and I hope 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.720 you're all here for me. And today I asked somebody 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.239 very special to do this with me my first time out, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.640 because she means so much to me, and she means 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.359 so much to Shannon. They're like sisters, and she this, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:28.480 this beautiful person is part of our family. And I'm 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.079 sure you will all recognize her at some point because 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.960 she was also on one of the podcasts with Shannon, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.600 and so I'd like to introduce you now to someone 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.320 very special. Also. Her family is very special as well. 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:42.880 This is Anne Marie. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.360 Thank you mama. She was said the Ricker Strata who 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.520 named you mama Rossa. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.959 That's awesome. I forgot that I was going to tell 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:53.160 everybody this was who named me Mama Rosa. She started 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:53.680 the whole thing. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.000 It becomes such a big thing over the years that 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.680 everybody called you Mama Rosa. And you know, I kind 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.240 of got over at one point, but I was like, 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.520 excuse me. I started that, should we tell this story 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.120 how we started that? Yeah, it was kind of funny. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.760 Yeah, tell so. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.960 Many many many years ago. Actually almost twenty years ago. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.360 I realized not a week after Shannon had passed that 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.320 we would have had our twentieth anniversary of our friendship. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.080 And it was really one of a kind. She was 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:28.359 one of a kind. And long story short, I came 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.000 to visit Shannon in Malibu. I was shooting, and I 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.760 remember Mama Rousa and Channon came to pick me up 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.760 from the set and I came to stay with her. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.200 I remember vividly, and I loved to organize very much, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.240 and I'm sure you guys have seen me throughout the 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.120 years try to like not just organize, but make Shannon 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.120 do funny things like drink green juices and work out 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.040 when she didn't want to on all that kind of 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.400 fun stuff. So I decided I was going to reorganize 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.520 Shannon's whole closet. In the process, we started trying things 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.440 on that we're in her closs a from like shows 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.480 and past like events and red carpets, and next thing 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.280 you know, I'm like fully wearing. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:11.000 The world. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.800 And I was so embarrassed because there comes Rosa. 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.480 She's turning right and I'm like, oh, hi, Mama Rosa, 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:21.359 fully butt naked. And that is how Memorosa's. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.000 Work, literally, because I was like, what else do I do? 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.240 But hi, Mama Rosa, and I'm sorry and I'm not 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.320 really sorry, and that's how we kind of fell in 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.080 love and ever since then, you know, she's like a 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.279 second mom to me. When I moved here to La, 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.719 she used to take care of my little baby who's 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:40.040 now sixteen. So we truly have grown together as a family. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.280 Is so much more than friends. So, like she said, 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.120 I'm so so grateful. We're both so grateful for all 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.359 of the beautiful messages, all of the beautiful little videos 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.920 that the fans make on Instagram. Like I have yet 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.200 to really cry. We both have really held it together 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.159 because we being together taking care of each other, and well. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.640 I tell people when somebody sees me out and you know, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.200 they're being very kind and they want to come up 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.159 and hug me, and I'm like, the first thing I 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.120 do is I look at them and I'm like, you 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.039 can hug me, but you cannot cry. Just don't cry 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.200 because if you cry, I'll start crying and I can't stop, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:21.640 I know. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.800 And she I almost cried the other day. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:25.760 She was over at my house and we made it 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.680 almost an hour and a half and when she was 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.960 walking out, I hugged her and she goes, You're not crying. 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.440 I was like nope, and like I'm literally swallowing her 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.640 back up. So I think because the love and the 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.320 relationship that we have been able to cultivate over the 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.240 last twenty years, we just kind of been there for 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.520 each other. And you know, this is what I said. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.599 I remember the day after I said to my husband 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.920 and I'm like, I have one job right now. I 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.160 know what Shannon would have wanted me to do, and 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.440 people would have thought many things, but the one thing 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.719 that I knew was my job till the day I 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.160 die is to make sure that I call my Marosa 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.280 every morning and just find out what she's doing, and 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.000 she does, are you fitting the docks? I'm very annoying. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.160 I'm like, what are you doing? What do you want 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.080 to talk about? And she's like, She's like, didn't you 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.440 just wake up? Did you have coffee already? She's like, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.719 why are you so lively? And I'm like, what's up? 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.640 So I just wanted to make sure that she never 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.720 misses what she had with Channon, where you know, they 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.320 were so very close, one of the most beautiful momy 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.120 daughter relationships I've ever witnessed. So I will never be 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.320 able to replace her, but I will make sure that 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.600 she never feels alone as long as I can help it. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.360 No wonder where I am in the world, I'm going 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.080 to figure it out to make sure I called her 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.240 in the morning and just say good morning. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.200 So she called me every morning from Puerto Rico recently, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.200 I did, I did so. 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.479 Anyways, thank you guys. I think that we have a 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.400 bunch of questions that were sent. What do you think 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.240 she would want you to do to keep her legacy alive? 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.320 I think that's a good one for you. Let's throw 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:54.200 it right in there. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.240 Well, I think we've got a good start on it 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.320 right now with all the people that are listening to 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.200 the podcast, and I hope that we can keep the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.840 podcast going, and that depends on everybody and me as well, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.400 and I promise to do better as I get along 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.200 with this. I'm still you're doing amazing. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.200 What are you talking about? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.200 I'm still alone, You're doing great, hy with it? But 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.400 and it's different. I'm sitting here with am Marie, and 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.720 I chose A Marie because I knew I would have 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.679 a different comfort zone. But when I did it before, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.280 I was sitting across from Shannon, So it's kind of 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.640 right now. It's a little overwhelming for me in that respect. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.800 But as I get along down the road, it'll get better, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:35.800 I know, get better. 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.680 I hope it can be just a little bit. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.400 And her legacy will be the love that she gave 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.880 to everybody that she knew, and the love that she 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.120 gave to people that she didn't know. I went to 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.760 a lot of conventions with her, and I watched her 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.080 hug these people and tears come into her eyes for 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.680 the people and the stories that they were telling her. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:01.520 And she felt it very important that she takes the 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.920 time with people and people who needed a hug. And 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.080 I think that's her legacy that people actually and even 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.720 more so now they're realizing what a wonderful, kind and 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.920 warm human being she was. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.840 Yeah, and those who really knew her and those who 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.560 were like in her inner circle always knew that she 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:27.000 truly was the warmant, the kindest, you know friend there was. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.720 I think a very important thing for me that I 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:36.120 have been able to get out of all of the 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.840 messages is that I knew how important it was. And 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.280 you guys have heard on the podcast, on the episode 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.720 that she and I did together. You know, the moment 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.800 that she shaved her head and she went public with 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:52.360 her cancer was a big, big, big moment for her, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.360 for you, for me, for all of those around her. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.640 But I don't think I ever realized the mass manitude 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.720 of the the way was received by people that were 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.400 going through what she was going through. I people loved her, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.200 admired her, and to see the strength to go out 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.280 there in a world where it's so superficial, right this world, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.120 the social media and all the things, where everyone is 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.199 just basically like putting this persona out there, and she 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.880 just went out there raw. I remember, like we were 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.840 shaving the head. It was you and me, and I 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.480 was like, I had no idea what I was doing 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:30.679 I kept looking at her. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.600 I called you because she she called me. She I 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:36.880 was there with her, and she's like, okay, mom, I 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.040 want you to cut my hair. I'm like what because 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.480 at the time she she was losing some hair, but 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.800 she still had a full head of hair. And she said, no, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.800 come with me, and she took me into the bathroom 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.520 and she put her hair in a ponytail and she said, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.240 cut this ponytail off now. And I did cut the ponytail, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.040 and then we're looking at each other like what are 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:54.440 we going to. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:55.480 Do now with the rest? 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.920 So she and she says, I think we just need 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.240 to go ahead and do it all now. Just I'm like, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.760 are you sure. I'm like really she said yeah. I'm like, well, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.360 we don't have a shaver. She said, let's call that Marie. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.000 So we didn't the red Rocket Marie. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:12.320 Yeah. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.559 I mean, it's usually kind of how our stories end. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.960 It's always like you guys start something and you're like, oh, crap, 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.199 we need somebody to finish it up. So anyways, next 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.320 thing I know, I'm on my way, I pull up 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.640 the routes, I grab a couple of different ones, and 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.560 then you know, we just kind of figure it out, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.520 and it was not easy. I mean, for those of 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.800 you who are going through this, you will know that 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.360 it is not as easy as it looks. You actually 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.320 need some training. So I got some training real quickly. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.000 But you know what, in all seriousness, it was a 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.800 big moment. I didn't realize it till later on, Like 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.880 how brave she was, Like how truly brave she was 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.240 to just bear it all and share it with you guys, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.679 and you know the outpouring of love after that post. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.559 I remember, we talked about it and we kept saying, impressed, 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.720 do we say it? Do we not do it? Do 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.160 we do it in black and white? I mean, we 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.560 went back and forth, and then finally when we saw 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.560 the response, we were like, this is the right thing 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.400 because there's so many people out there going through this alone. Right, 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.240 they don't have the support that you have in a 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.960 mom like Rosa or a friend like me or Chris 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.760 or all the people around her that truly we're here 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.560 to support her no matter what. And she truly gave 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.240 them the courage to just like go for it and 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.920 go out there and talk about it and also create 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.800 all the awareness she truly on her own created so 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.360 much breast cancer awareness. She did so much work on 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.440 her own and I hear that every day every time 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.440 I look through messages, they're like, because of her, I 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.240 went and got tested, and I did this, and I 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.800 found that at this stage or that stage. So we 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.240 will forever be so grateful that she did that, and 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.760 I feel honored that she allowed me to be part 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:58.160 of that in helping some of these people get through it. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.760 You know, together with us, it was like one big 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.360 big we were just like it. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:07.680 Was turned into a head shaving party and so much 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.120 more right because then people who are willing to talk 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.199 about not just the loss of the hair, but like 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.319 having a misectomy, having. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.600 To go through chemo, the radiation, Do I do it? 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.439 Do I not do it? What am I going to 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.400 feel like? And she truly was so raw and share it, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.160 and I think that, you know, it's a very hard 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.920 thing to do. And she truly gave a platform for 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.079 women and for men and for many that didn't exist before. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.000 She has the most amazing fans. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.040 She really does, she really not. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.880 I still remember our first trip to New York. I 0:12:54.960 --> 0:13:01.280 remember I never really experienced the paparazzi that yeah, And 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.760 I remember we were just like I never cared. I 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.360 was just like I would put on whatever. And we 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.400 were walking down Soha and all of a sudden, she goes, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.360 don't look, and of course you're going I look. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.480 I'm like hey, and next. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.800 Thing, you know, we have like fifteen people. This is 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.760 like back in two thousand and one. This is a 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.679 long time ago. And I remember we were just shopping 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.000 and I'm like, I don't understand. I'm like, we're just shopping. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:22.440 She goes. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.079 I know, she goes, but you gotta look pretty while 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.560 we're shopping, you know. And it was so funny because 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.880 it was like I never really care, and it was 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.840 just kind of like part of like our relationship. I 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.920 think that's why we were so close, because like, I 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:37.840 just never really care. I would try to walk on 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:39.160 the other side of the street and she'd be like, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:39.960 where are you going. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.559 I'm like, I'll see you over here. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.600 You let them follow you. And you know, my husband's 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:50.000 a very very private, quiet person. As most of you think, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:51.959 I'm not even married, but I've been married twenty three 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.240 years and i have a sixteen year old and you know, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.720 Shannon and my husband were very, very very close. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.560 She adored Scott, and she in him and trusted his 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.000 knowledge of things. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.320 Yeah, he knows a lot. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.600 He knows a lot of a lot, a lot a lot. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.600 So yeah, I know, it's you know, we really do 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.000 have I have spent People keep asking me, how are 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.680 you doing, and I'm like, you know how I'm doing. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.560 I'm just going down memory lane, truly enjoying all of 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.600 the beautiful, beautiful memories that I created with her. And 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.440 let me tell you, I forgot how many things we did. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.800 We lived, we lived hard, and lived like we truly 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.760 did live like. We had some fun trips. We had 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.520 some that were like, eh, yeah, whatever, you know, Okay, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.240 I mean, I remember we went to Miami on a 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.320 girl's trip. I wanted a girl strip. So she's like, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.160 I'm coming and I think there's a bunch of pictures 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.479 of I was like sitting on the plane with ar Mimosas. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.360 And then it was the beginning of snapchat, do you remember, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.640 And yeah, my god, that whole night we just sat 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.920 in the hotel room doing Snapchat videos. So I was 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.720 like pretending to cry. Next thing, you know, we're taking 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.520 walks on the beach, and you know, I feel one 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.440 of the things I've learned, you know, over the past 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.480 month or so, is that I want to really enjoy 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:08.320 the moment. I really want to like just connect, like 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 when Rosa and I are together now and we speak 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.840 every day and I see her multiple times a week, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.920 and we got her favorite lunch plates and we do 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.560 our stuff, like I just want to be present. And 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.200 that's the one thing I have to say. Be present 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.680 with your family, with your friends, with the ones you care, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.640 with the ones you love. Don't be looking at your phone. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.480 Just like enjoy it, because that was the That's one 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.000 of the gifts that Shannon and I had in our relationship. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:31.960 There was none of this when she and I met. 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.200 There was none of it. It was just her and 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.840 I making the fun. We started the phone. We didn't 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.280 have a phone taping recording what was happening. We lived 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.240 the moment. And I say that to my daughter all 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.000 the time. That's one of the most precious things that 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.240 I like remember in our relationship. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.960 You know, that's well in Shannon and I had like 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:59.160 such a phenomenal mother daughter relationship, and I always said 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.720 to her, like you are my heart, and she is 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.240 she's my heart, and I just we just it's so 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.360 much together, and I would I have my own place, 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.600 and I would go to I would get ready to 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.320 go to my own place, and she'd said, where are 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:17.240 you going. I remember, well, I'll be back on Monday. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.120 Or I said no, no, no, why don't you just 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.640 spend the night and then in the morning we'll do 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:24.880 so and so, no shopping, or we'll do this. And 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.040 I'm like, well, but I really need to get back 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.080 and check on things at my place. And she said 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.600 it's okay, you can do that in the morning. And 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.680 when the morning came, so finally I'm like, I do 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.640 have her place, but my place has been with her 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.480 for a long time now. It was like, you gotta 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.040 go home, mom. You can't go back to your place. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:47.760 This is home. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.840 Your relationship was truly special, you know, like I it's 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.840 it's one of a kind and they'll be they'll never 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.520 be one like it. And you're very blessed in a way, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.960 like you spend more time with your daughter the most 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.400 mother spends in a lifetime. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.719 Well, and everybody, what's so dear to me? People that 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:10.000 I don't even know that maybe she's seen out somewhere 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.479 at the convention or whatever, and I know with all 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.679 our friends. She really goes into it. But it's always 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.720 they say, Shannon loves you so much. She told us 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.800 all about you and she loves you so much. And 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.800 then all my friends, I mean even now, it's like, 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.480 you know, Shannon told us we have to take care 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.840 of you and to watch out for you, and. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.240 She loved you so much, and that was the only 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.560 thing she cared about. She cared that you had company 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.600 that you were taking care of. And guess what, she 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.359 has the closest people to her. That's what we're doing. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.280 We are Her orders are our commands, and we're on 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.720 it and we will be here until you get sick 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:47.400 of us. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.879 Every time I talk about maybe, well maybe I'll like 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.000 move to Italy or maybe I'll go somewhere, and I 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.760 mentioned moving to Italy and our friend Chris is like, well, yes, 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.240 we can do that. 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.560 We're going together. It's a whole, full pack, a. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.040 Whole it's a whole packagees. We have our little group 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:12.240 here and we just stick together. And that's all because 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.720 of Shannon. Shannon included me. She always in always with 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:20.240 her friends from the beginning, even when she was young. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.119 I mean I remember when she was even when she 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.560 was like eighteen. There would be a group of them 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:31.920 that they would go to Jerry's Deli on the sun 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.919 special night it was midnight bowling and Tom and I 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.400 would be in bed very you know, sleep. It would 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.720 be two one or two in the morning. And it 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.760 wouldn't be Shannon calling always. It would be at the 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.480 time Deborah who we lost Deborah to cancer and that 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.959 was a close friend as well, but it would be Deborah, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:55.600 could be well, anybody, any of the friends. They say, hey, Mom, 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.400 we're bowling. Where are you? And Dad, I'm like, we're 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.359 in bed, get up and come on, let's go. We 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.000 would get up and we would get dressed and we 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.840 would go. And because of that, they always knew that 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:09.680 we were their ride or die. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:10.480 Yeah. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.440 If even now, if anybody's like, just call me, I'm there, 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.440 and that's like a Marie does the same thing because 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.879 now her daughters, our beautiful lives sixteen years old, and 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.480 so she's experiencing it with living her friends. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.720 Exactly and then honestly, there's nothing more beautiful, you know, 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:30.840 That's the whole point. I always say, what's the point 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.280 of having kids if you don't want to be with them? 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:33.880 Twenty for seven exactly, and. 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.240 When they include you with their friends, but. 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.080 That means you raise them. Right, Let's just talk about it, 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.360 because if they want to be with you and they 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.520 want to share all of their memories with you, as 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.040 you know, I just had a house full of guests, yes, 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.520 and you know that's special. That means you did something right, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:54.120 you know. So and Shannon, you know, she really did 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.639 have a beautiful group of friends. You know, she really 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.720 truly did. And they were her rider died. It didn't 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.080 matter what time of the day it was. We all 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.160 showed up for her because she did that for us. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.000