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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 4: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 4: it is a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: That means Matt that well. We have our first practice

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Speaker 3: report of the week here for both.

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Speaker 4: The Steelers and the Browns who they could play Sunday

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Speaker 4: at Akroshuer Stadium. And the Steelers injury list is pretty extensive,

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Speaker 4: but most of these are resting veteran players.

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Speaker 5: Makes sense. It's time of year. We're into December.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: They also practiced indoors today, which a lot of times

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Speaker 4: they will rest guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, old knees get rested when they practice indoors because

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Speaker 4: it's a little tougher on. Yeah, So that would that

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Speaker 4: would include Mike Williams, Najee Harris, Making, Fitzpatrick, Isaac Samalu,

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Speaker 4: Michel Pruett, T J. Watt, Cam Heyward and Larry Oguan Joebi.

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Speaker 4: What was limited today? Guys who practiced in a limited fashion?

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Speaker 4: Where Calvin Austin third, good goodness first, Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 4: first step in returning from a concussion protocol. Alex high Smith,

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Speaker 4: with the ankle, was limited in Montrevious Adams also limited

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Speaker 4: with the knee.

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Speaker 5: Those seemed like the three to watch. Yeah, those those

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Speaker 5: are the guys we don't know for sure will be

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Speaker 5: there for Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Corey Trice was a full participant today. Oh, they haven't

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Speaker 4: yet activated him off of I would imagine he's active

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Speaker 4: for a game day, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because dude hasn't played in two months.

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Speaker 5: Quite a while, right, and I don't know what he

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Speaker 5: is on special teams. I mean, I'm pretty happy with

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Speaker 5: their gunners. I'm sure I don't think he'd crack that.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if Porter or Jackson were to get hurt

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Speaker 5: the Sutton kickout or would that be Trice's job, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Pierre Still and Pierre.

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Speaker 4: So the question is again in Beanie Bishops, are you

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Speaker 4: going to keep six cornerbacks active on game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's tough. I mean, especially if he's so so

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Speaker 5: on teams or you know, not established interesting.

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Speaker 3: So that's where they're at with that.

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Speaker 4: Looking at the Cleveland side of things, Joel Botonio with

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Speaker 4: an ankle as a full participant. Hardened, the cornerback with

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Speaker 4: the tibia, was limited. Maurice Hurst or Michael Hurst, I

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Speaker 4: said Michael Hurst. They just Hirst, they put Yeah, they

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Speaker 4: put in initials here like of course you just know

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Speaker 4: everybody h he has an ankle, He was limited. Kamara,

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Speaker 4: the defensive tackle, had concussion, did not participate. Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 4: with the knee, was a full participant. Elijah Moore with

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Speaker 4: a shoulder a limited participant, Greg Newsom with an abdomen

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Speaker 4: limited participant. Cedric Tillman with concussion did not practice today.

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Speaker 4: Look he's been a while, yeah, since the Steeler game there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: Uh Onan Thornhill with calf did not practice, Okay, uh,

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Speaker 4: James Thrash with the shoulder did not practice, and Jedrick

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Speaker 5: If he's ever gonna play for them, I don't think

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Speaker 5: he just seems like they're put him on ice side. Note,

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Speaker 5: while you're saying that my phone has popped up, they

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Speaker 5: put Trevor Lawrence on injured reserve too. I would I know.

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Speaker 5: I bet his season's over as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they've got four games left. So yeah, this

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Speaker 4: season would be over.

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Speaker 5: Who are we most concerned with with the Brownies there?

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Speaker 3: I think Thornhill would be a loss for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, safety, We'll see about Newsome if he is able

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Speaker 4: to go or not.

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Speaker 3: That's that would be a big loss.

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Speaker 5: And maybe I missed it, but was Ward not on there?

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Speaker 3: We're not on there.

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Speaker 5: I thought he might have broke his forearm watching that

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Speaker 5: but apparently not, so they didn't say much about it.

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Speaker 5: That my observation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's where they're at. And Tilman not.

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Speaker 4: If Timan doesn't play, that's a big deal since Thrash

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Kilman's a much better player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see about that. But overall, not awful.

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Speaker 5: No, not awful for either team. Yeah, Steelers could be

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Speaker 5: getting guys back, which is fun. Yeah, always fun. Ye,

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Speaker 5: always fun to get guys back. Looking at this game,

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Speaker 5: even even a little bit more. Dustin Hopkins is not good. No,

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Speaker 4: Did you see by the way the Bengals put McPherson

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Speaker 5: Oh really, I was about to say AFC North Kickers

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Speaker 5: aren't doing so great. A lot of kicks, not the

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Speaker 5: one here, but I wonder if that's gonna be popping

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Speaker 3: I tweeted this out yesterday. Matt actually.

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Speaker 4: The leading kicker now all time in terms of field

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Speaker 4: goal percentage? Do you know who it is now? Is

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Speaker 4: it fair Baron?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: This has changed now.

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Speaker 4: This is the third time, actually our third change atop

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Speaker 5: Time, So it's not the panther guy anymore.

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Speaker 4: No, he missed a couple of kicks and he's now

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Speaker 4: at eighty eight point five to two five, okay, just

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Speaker 4: ahead of Boswell.

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Speaker 3: Boswell has actually moved.

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Speaker 1: Up to state.

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Speaker 5: He's moving up a list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he started the season at six. He's now fourth Harrison.

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Speaker 4: Butker is benefiting from not.

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Speaker 5: Case not swinging his leg and moving up the chart.

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Speaker 5: He's had a good career. That makes it eighty nine

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Speaker 5: point two one two percent. Tucker's at eighty nine point

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Speaker 5: oh three two percent this one season has dropped. He

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Speaker 5: was over ninety one percent. That's how bad he's been

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Speaker 5: one year. Yeah, that's insane.

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Speaker 4: Pinero's at eighty eight point five two five and Boswell's

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Speaker 4: at eighty seven point seven four eight no.

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Speaker 5: Good for Butker. I do respect the outdoor kickers that

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Speaker 5: deal with element and wins and stuff like that a

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Speaker 5: little bit more for sure too, you know Pinero and

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Speaker 5: Coup and those guys have it easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Pinero. That's the weird thing about this, Like

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Speaker 4: Pinero was a top to the list. He's only been

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Speaker 4: in the league like six years. Yeah, but he's kicked

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Speaker 5: All time best or whatever, right you said that last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one of these names.

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Speaker 4: Is not like the others because the top five all

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Speaker 5: High quality kickers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody would include Pinero in that group.

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Speaker 5: No, And I don't know a ton about the other kickers,

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Speaker 5: He just kicked a lot of short ones. That's what's happened.

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Speaker 5: Like the guy in Tennessee this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not kicking like oh he's he's made all

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Speaker 4: you know, missed one kick or two kicks whatever it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he doesn't try any hard ones, right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean Boswell's misses one was blocked and two were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, I just thought that, you know, again,

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Speaker 4: they lost that game the other night by what nine points?

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Speaker 4: He missed a kick? Yeah, otherwise they're they different. Two

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Speaker 4: pick six is then.

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Speaker 5: They gave a gave some stuff away obviously.

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Speaker 3: Which is what bad football teams do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they really don't run the ball well at

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Speaker 5: all at all, even they don't try anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The number since Jamus Winston has taken over, I mean that.

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Speaker 5: Is past past, past pass Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're passing. Stuff is just shot through. Like

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Speaker 4: he started one fewer game than Russell Wilson has, but

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Speaker 4: he's thrown like sixty more passes.

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Speaker 5: Huh. I'm like he's already passed like Watson on. I

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Speaker 5: mean like oh yeah, I mean it's not even clothes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you look at their I mean

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Speaker 3: Uh what is he here? Where's it that he is?

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Speaker 4: He's played in ten games, but he's only started five,

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Speaker 4: but he's already thrown two hundred and thirty passes. Watson

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, and the yardage is way crazy

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Speaker 5: different in the touchdowns. And I'm admittedly somewhat of a

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Speaker 5: Winston apologist. I mean, I enjoy his style of play,

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Speaker 5: but he's don ball too much. I mean, like, yes

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Speaker 5: he throws picks, and yes he's aggressive, and we all

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Speaker 5: out a little bit and not have him throw a

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Speaker 5: bazillion times. But the run game's bad.

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Speaker 4: His interception percentage use three point zero if you start

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Speaker 4: like top five worst worst. Yeah, as bad as Deshaun

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Speaker 4: Watson was this year. His interception percentage is one point four.

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Speaker 5: The real knock on Watson is just turning down throws. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean he would just dump it down, not try anything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the anti Winston. Yeah, they need a happy

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Speaker 5: medium there. Yeah, the next gen stats, you know, the

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Speaker 5: NFL pro stuff had some stuff about Winston to today.

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Speaker 5: He throws past the sticks at a alarming rate, I mean,

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Speaker 5: at a really high level and he's done well. But

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Speaker 5: this Dealers happened to be one of the best teams

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Speaker 5: defending passes sticks and they have eleven interceptions when teams

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Speaker 5: throw past the sticks. You know, so his aggression if

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Speaker 5: I was in charge of the Browns or yeah, real,

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: So he's averaging per reception twelve twelve point five yards

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Speaker 4: per reception and Watson was at eight point four and

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Speaker 4: that still comes in less than what we've seen him

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Speaker 4: with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's averaging a thirteen point two

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Speaker 4: yards per completion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Wow, So so we have a guest we do yeah yeah,

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Speaker 5: uh so we're joined at this time by.

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Speaker 3: He's always here.

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Speaker 5: He's here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just completely these.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, so we will finish up the segment here.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so Wilson is also aggressive as a thrower.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean he's pushed the ball down

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Speaker 3: But he's more deliberate with it than smarter about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's smarter, but he is, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like the last Winston interception, I don't kill

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Speaker 3: Win again, right, I mean a bad pick though.

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Speaker 5: It was a bad pick. I mean, but the other

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Speaker 5: ones like what are you doing? And over his career

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Speaker 5: it just showed that's just he's just going to let

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at the days in Tampa when

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Speaker 4: he was throwing thirty interceptions in a season, there was

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Speaker 4: the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson and we're pleased to be

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Speaker 4: A Different Way to Win Dan Rooney story from Super

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Speaker 3: And for people that don't know, of course, Dan was.

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Speaker 6: Right right, So Dale, thanks for having me. Matt good

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: So we wrote the book.

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Speaker 7: And we really thought we put a good product together

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Speaker 5: Okay, you mentioned a bunch of Steeler folks. There obviously

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Speaker 7: And I think people quit after that. I mean, Dale,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, your your dad was always even

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Speaker 5: And everything, but was able to get to like your

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Speaker 5: So I'm curious about your father. I mean, like, at

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Speaker 7: So well, you know, it actually started with Dad being

444
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Speaker 7: alive and we wanted to do something for like the

445
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Speaker 7: Harvard Business Review, you know, one of those harder core

446
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Speaker 7: business journals, and talk about this leadership style, it's impact

447
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Speaker 7: on football, it's impact on UH diversity and and and

448
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Speaker 7: some of the things that were really important to him

449
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Speaker 7: and Ireland and and sort of the community side. Then

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Speaker 7: when we did then when he passed, it was actually

451
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Speaker 7: Paul Tagliabu, the former commissioner, said we got to turn

452
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Speaker 7: this into a book because we had so many, so

453
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Speaker 7: many notes, and so when we turn in a book,

454
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Speaker 7: I always thought, well, we'll do audio. And then COVID

455
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Speaker 7: happened and that became a Blessing in disguise because I

456
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Speaker 7: couldn't get into a studio and and so everything kind

457
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Speaker 7: of stopped for a while. And then the publisher said,

458
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Speaker 7: you know, podcasts had become such a big thing.

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Speaker 6: What do you think about this idea?

460
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Speaker 7: And I'm like, this is perfect for this book because

461
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Speaker 7: you know, you know, you hear me for five hours,

462
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Speaker 7: but trust me, getting to Franco and getting to Rocky,

463
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Speaker 7: getting these other guys is much more entertaining read.

464
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Speaker 6: For five hours.

465
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Speaker 7: I hope people enjoy it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: There's there's real color that they give. That's that's different.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure that. I'm sure that they will. And

468
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Speaker 4: where can they get the where can they listen to

469
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Speaker 4: this and and hear it?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 7: So anywhere you download audio books, so so Amazon, which

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Speaker 7: is audible, iBooks, which is through Apple, Google Play, and

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Speaker 7: then Barnes Andannoble dot com or the largest places where

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Speaker 7: people download audiobooks.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 4: Great, And this is perfect for like, say, let's say

477
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Speaker 4: you're driving Philadelphia for the game in a couple of weeks.

478
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Speaker 5: Here, Well, there's a holiday coming around too.

479
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Speaker 7: Well it's funny because people keep saying it, is this

480
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Speaker 7: a good holiday gift. And I keep saying and I

481
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Speaker 7: and and Wolf. The other day when I did a

482
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Speaker 7: little thing with him, he said, well that's not your

483
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Speaker 7: father said, oh no. When he drove us to Florida,

484
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Speaker 7: he thought the same. You know, when you're in the

485
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Speaker 7: when you're in the car for five hours with your family,

486
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Speaker 7: you might want an audio bay.

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Speaker 5: This is a good I have one more question too.

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Speaker 5: I mean we referenced it, and maybe not even all

489
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Speaker 5: of our younger listeners, remember, but your father was the

490
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Speaker 5: ambassador at Ireland. That's an amazing opportunity. Of course. I

491
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Speaker 5: mean did he love it? But did he also miss

492
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Speaker 5: being away from the team.

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Speaker 7: No, Because he called me at five point thirty, He

494
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Speaker 7: called Kevin at six, he called Art at at six thirty,

495
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Speaker 7: he called Mike at seven.

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Speaker 6: I mean everything he was tuned in and he flew once.

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Speaker 7: I think, Dale, I think you know this, Matt, you

498
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Speaker 7: may he we played the Johants, he flew from Ireland,

499
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Speaker 7: went to the game and was at his desk in

500
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Speaker 7: Ireland the next morning. Oh wow, so you know, and

501
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Speaker 7: he was seventy nine years old. I mean, I can't

502
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Speaker 7: you know. I hate getting off the plane in Charlotte

503
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Speaker 7: after an hour.

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Speaker 5: H but then he miss being in the office every day.

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Speaker 5: I mean it sounds like he kept tabs on things

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Speaker 5: he did.

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Speaker 6: But he loved he really loved Ireland and it was great.

508
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Speaker 6: It was great. It was important.

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Speaker 7: I think it helped the organization start to move beyond him.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I love my father, I wrote a book

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Speaker 7: about him. But you have to change, you have to evolve,

512
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Speaker 7: and I think it was it was a good interim

513
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Speaker 7: step for the organization. And he had just such love

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Speaker 7: for Ireland and all the things that were going on there.

515
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Speaker 7: And you know, everyone that talks about his work in Ireland,

516
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Speaker 7: it's like Dale's story about my dad in Pittsburgh. You know,

517
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Speaker 7: he was over there within six weeks. Everyone in Embassy

518
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Speaker 7: Dublin thought, this is the greatest ambassador we've ever had.

519
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Speaker 7: He's got fifty new projects going. It was it was

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Speaker 7: a great experience.

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Speaker 4: I can still remember going over when the Steelers played

522
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Speaker 4: the Bears over there and and uh, you know, your

523
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Speaker 4: your dad having things set up. We got to go here,

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Speaker 4: and then we got to go there, and it was

525
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Speaker 4: just so interesting to see he was like he was

526
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Speaker 4: in his element. Yeah, just you know, had such a

527
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Speaker 4: great respect and love of of of the country there,

528
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Speaker 4: and that's what it's going to be maybe cool next

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Speaker 4: year if they actually end up playing a game there,

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Speaker 4: we'll see.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're keeping our fingers crossed. I'm hearing good news though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So that another Dan Rudy.

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Speaker 6: You know, my nephew Is has been been putting that project.

535
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Speaker 4: In spiritheading that. Yeah there, Yeah, it's it's really cool.

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Speaker 4: And I can remember, like people just when I was

537
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Speaker 4: out and about and people are like, why are why

538
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Speaker 4: are these two teams playing here? I'm like, well, you

539
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Speaker 4: got to understand the background here, what's going on. But

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Speaker 4: it was such a cool event, and uh, you know

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Speaker 4: the possibility of being able to do that again, I'm

542
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Speaker 4: sure your dad will be smiling on that.

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Speaker 6: Can I tell one more right ahead?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So, so the coolest thing he didn't, I mean, he

546
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Speaker 7: did really self things that were really special from an

547
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Speaker 7: Irish American standpoint. But you know every year at at

548
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Speaker 7: every embassy in the globe, you have a baseball game

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Speaker 7: on the fourth of July.

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Speaker 6: Well, he said, we're having a football game. So and

551
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Speaker 6: this wasn't at taxpair and expenses.

552
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Speaker 7: We got sponsors and everything, but he had this mini

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl at at the residence in Dublin, and he

554
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Speaker 7: you know, we had jumbo trons and I was an

555
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Speaker 7: announced or Art was a coach of one team. My

556
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Speaker 7: brother Dan was a coach of the other. I think

557
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Speaker 7: they almost got in a fistfight at the end. Again,

558
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Speaker 7: but but it was mainly the Marines who would play

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Speaker 7: and and and the first year we went over this

560
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Speaker 7: was I mean, like I still kind of brings tears

561
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Speaker 7: to my eyes. So where the Steeler symbol is at

562
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Speaker 7: the middle of the stadium, he put the seal of

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Speaker 7: the United States of America and we brought the Marines

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Speaker 7: out the first time to see it, and like they

565
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Speaker 7: just had such a gleam in their eye that he

566
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Speaker 7: thought of them like this, and that that he really

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Speaker 7: made something special for the Marines who were serving in

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Speaker 7: Ireland during that time. And that was a really cool,

569
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Speaker 7: like Dan Rooney touch of getting like, let's do something

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Speaker 7: a little special for these guys.

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Speaker 3: And he just had a way of doing stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's great. Again.

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Speaker 4: The book is a different way to win. Dan Rooney's

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Speaker 4: story from the Super Bowl to the Rooney Rule. That's

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Speaker 4: by Jim Rooney. You can check that out. You can

577
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Speaker 4: also go to a different way to win dot com

578
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: and actually still buy the regular book too.

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Speaker 6: Right, you can buy the regular book and at one

580
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Speaker 6: of these sites. I should know these things.

581
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Speaker 7: The publisher is doing a contest. So you get there's

582
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Speaker 7: Steeler goodies, you get merchandise.

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Speaker 6: I think there's autograph footballs.

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Speaker 7: I think they're going to raff all that stuff off

585
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Speaker 7: around the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: I'm horrible.

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Speaker 7: I'm I think I can tell the story and I

588
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Speaker 7: could write the book, but like every time they asked

589
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Speaker 7: me to do.

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Speaker 6: This, I don't have the details of it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get your grandfather's promoter.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jimmy, we appreciate you stopping by. And again, it's

593
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Speaker 4: a great book. I read it when it first came out,

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Speaker 4: and I might let's go back and read it again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen to listen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll do that. Well, I'm driving to Philadelphia.

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 7: It's fine, Like, I know Steeler folks will like it

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00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 7: because the interviews are so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, but we're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for dropping by. He's Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 4: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 4: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

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Speaker 4: with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 4: Matt Williamson. I'd like to thank Jimmy Rooney for stopping

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Speaker 4: by and talking about his book. There you can put

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Speaker 4: in the audio book still get those. But now I'm

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Speaker 4: joined by another guest on the Justin Miller Hotline. Here

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Speaker 4: we have the Dean of Doom, the lord of living.

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Speaker 3: In his fears. Bob Labriola joins us.

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Speaker 4: Bob, the editor of Steelers Digestic Steelers. How you doing, Labs.

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Speaker 8: Nothing nothing to be living in your fears about now?

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Speaker 3: Really nothing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got a game against the Browns this

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Speaker 4: week and they just they just beat the Steelers a

621
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. You're feeling a little more confident

622
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Speaker 4: after watching the Steelers go out and put up forty

623
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Speaker 4: four points in Cincinnati on Sunday? Is that Does that

624
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Speaker 4: have a little something to do with the maybe a

625
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Speaker 4: little of the optimism.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And and and the way the defense played too.

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Speaker 8: I mean it was it was. It was what I

628
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Speaker 8: would call the kind of defense you're gonna need to

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Speaker 8: play be able to play against good teams.

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Speaker 1: In December and January.

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Speaker 8: And the Steelers happen to have a lot of good

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Speaker 8: teams on their schedule in December too. You know, you're

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Speaker 8: not going to be able to shut teams down that

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Speaker 8: you know that a lot of fans think, you know,

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Speaker 8: I just go back to nineteen seventy six and you know,

636
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Speaker 8: shut out five teams and give up twenty eight points

637
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 8: in nine games. That that that doesn't exist anymore. That

638
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 8: that brand of football has been out lot outlawed by

639
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 8: the league, you know, legislatively and the way it's officiated.

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Speaker 8: And so that's over to me. Good defense now is

641
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 8: being dynamic in situations. Five six plays usually can be

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Speaker 8: the difference in a game and the outcome of a

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Speaker 8: game between two good teams. And if you have a

644
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Speaker 8: couple of three takeaways, a couple key sacks, you know,

645
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 8: those kind of plays, that's that's that's that's good defense.

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Speaker 8: That's good enough to win those games, and really that's

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Speaker 8: all you need to do survive in advance.

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Speaker 1: This is.

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Speaker 8: In my mind, it's it's not officially the playoffs, but

650
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 8: that that mindset I think will serve them well if

651
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Speaker 8: they adopted starting well last Sunday and maintaining it now

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Speaker 8: through the next couple of months.

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Speaker 5: You're so bright and cheery. I hate to bring the

654
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Speaker 5: mood down. But one thing that concerns one of my

655
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Speaker 5: concerns with this team, and it's it's minimal, But I mean,

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Speaker 5: if we're talking playoff football and these these teams ahead

657
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: go into Philly hosting Kansas City. You know AFC North

658
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: football is they run the ball a lot, but I'd

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Speaker 5: like to see more rushing efficiency. They seem to do

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Speaker 5: it better.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean I didn't, you know, certainly, Uh, But

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Speaker 8: what I'm what I'm saying is if your offense is

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Speaker 8: doing what the offense did last week in Cincinnati, that's

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Speaker 8: good enough. If you want to nitpick, you know, if

665
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Speaker 8: you have nausea Harris on your fantasy team or something,

666
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 8: and you know you want to nitpick that, you know, Hey,

667
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 8: I'm not going to argue with you, but I don't

668
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 8: know that it's necessary that to beat the Eagles you've

669
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 8: got to outrush them.

670
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: No, maybe I phrased the question wrong. I mean, I

671
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 5: think it's just there's always room for improvement if you're

672
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 5: the best league, you know, and that would be something

673
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 5: i'd like to see heading into the playoffs.

674
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: You know.

675
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 8: Oh, there's no there's no question that there are things

676
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 8: that need to be better. I'm not, but I mean,

677
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 8: I just find it very difficult to nitpick that game

678
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 8: against the Bengals. I understand their defense isn't very good,

679
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 8: but that's what you know, like tounchtilkn always said, if

680
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 8: you can't beat the stiffs, the stiffs, you are one.

681
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 8: And so you've got a bad Bengals defense, you put

682
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 8: up forty four points on them.

683
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: That's exactly what needs to happen.

684
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: And I don't know that the offenses from the past

685
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: couple of years would.

686
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 8: Have Oh there's no question, no, right, and I don't

687
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 8: I'm going back pre Ben's elbow surgery too.

688
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean you go back.

689
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: You had to go back to twenty eighteen when it

690
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: was the last time they had over five hundred yards.

691
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: Twenty eighteen was the last time they scored you know

692
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: that many points. I mean that was pre Ben's elbow stuff.

693
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: That was a different era.

694
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you know it, you know it.

695
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 8: The offensive performance too beyond the yards and the points.

696
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 8: To me, which I thought was special. Special was pick

697
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 8: six losing seven to nothing, they go seventy yards and whatever.

698
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: How many plays tie the game.

699
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: I think it was like sixth plays. It was just

700
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: like bang bang, yeah whatever.

701
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 8: Then the next time Cincinnati scores, goes up fourteen to seven,

702
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 8: seventy yards and ten plays, another touchdown ties the game.

703
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 8: The Bengals score again the next drive sixty eight yards

704
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 8: in five plays.

705
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Nagy Harris runs it in, ties the game again.

706
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 8: When you're doing that, that kind of not only the

707
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 8: efficiency in the production by the offense, but the way

708
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 8: it was timed, you suck the life out of the opponent,

709
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 8: I believe, because they don't.

710
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's like being in a heavyweight fight.

711
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 8: You think you've got a guy on the ropes and

712
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 8: he comes off the ropes and tags you a couple

713
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 8: of times, and all of a sudden you're back in

714
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 8: the middle of the ring.

715
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: You know that happens to you a few times. You

716
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: just think, you.

717
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 8: Know what, like Paulo Creed said, you know, he turned

718
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 8: to his corner, what's up with this guy? He keeps coming?

719
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 8: So you know, those are kinds of the things that

720
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 8: I'm talking about too, in terms of you know, look,

721
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 8: I'm not predicting a super Bowl or a Super Bowl championship,

722
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 8: a parade in downtown PITTSBURGHINNY of that stuff. I don't

723
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 8: want to mis represent what I'm saying here. I just

724
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 8: think that what happened in Cincinnati, and especially on the

725
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 8: heels of what happened in Cleveland, to me, said a

726
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 8: lot about this team and a lot and in my mind,

727
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 8: everything about it that it said was good.

728
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: The other thing that it did, Bob, is one thing

729
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: that we heard.

730
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: One of the criticisms of the last few offseasons, the

731
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: Steelers quarterback room is the worst quarterback room in the

732
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: AFC North, And I always countered that it wasn't because

733
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: Cleveland existed. But secondly, you can't possibly go into a

734
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: game against Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow and expect your

735
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: quarterback to be better than those two guys and win

736
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: the game for you.

737
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: And in two of the.

738
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: Last three weeks, we've seen Russell Wilson be better than Lamar Jackson,

739
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: and we've seen him be better than Joe Burrow, and

740
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: Burrow played great Sunday.

741
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: He was phenomenal yeah.

742
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 8: But yes, Wilson, and I believe Joe Burrow is the

743
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 8: best quarterback in the division. That's been my feeling for

744
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 8: a while now. All due respect to Lamar Jackson, but

745
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 8: I just think Burrow is If I had to pick

746
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 8: one quarterback out of the AFC North that I thought

747
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 8: could take my team to a championship, Burrow would be

748
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 8: my first pick.

749
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 4: By the way, did you see he just bought three

750
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: million dollar batmobile?

751
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: I saw.

752
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Lamar Jackson might be Superman right now, but

753
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is Batman.

754
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah officially too. But uh so anyway, yeah, I I

755
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: uh again.

756
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 8: You know, the Bengals defense stinks, but that offense is

757
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 8: world class. Yeah, what was it ten times they've scored

758
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 8: thirty points this year, some ridiculous seven to eight whatever

759
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 8: it is they lost.

760
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: They've lost four games now which they've scored at least

761
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: thirty three points.

762
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: The rest of the league has lost two of those.

763
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 8: You know, and there's no question in my mind that

764
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 8: the Steelers won that game in Cincinnati by outscoring the Bengals. Yeah,

765
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 8: I mean that's if you had to you know, label

766
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 8: it or you know, five words or us, they outscored them.

767
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 8: In a shootout, you know, a you outscore team. I

768
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 8: get that you have to outscore the opponent every time

769
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 8: to win. I know that's how the rules will actually work.

770
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 8: But I'm talking about an offense that's putting up the

771
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 8: kind of points that that offense is putting up.

772
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: If you outscore them to win, then I.

773
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 8: Think that's that's a very very positive turn of events.

774
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: And it's significant, Bob, because I can remember, you know,

775
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: going from ninety four into ninety five, going taking the

776
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: way back trip here, I can remember a game in

777
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: Chicago where the Steelers had to win a shootout like

778
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: that against the Bears, and they won it in overtime.

779
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 4: And that's when I thought, you know, this team might

780
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: be they might have something here, because the year before

781
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: that they wouldn't even though the defense was fantastic. If

782
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 4: the defense had an off day and the opposing team

783
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: scored a bunch of points, or you were playing the

784
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers, you were playing one of those teams

785
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 4: that could score a bunch of points, you probably weren't

786
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 4: going to win unless the defense just played it, you know,

787
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: out of its mind. Well, this is a similar situation here.

788
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: People were down on the defense in this game. I'm like,

789
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: the defense makes a bunch of plays in this game

790
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 4: to help them win this game. But you needed the

791
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: he had to have both. You couldn't just be a defense.

792
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: You weren't going to win this seventeen sixteen that was

793
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 4: not realistic. It was going to be a higher scoring game.

794
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: And your offense showed that it's capable of doing those

795
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: things I'm throwing.

796
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

797
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think there's going to.

798
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 8: Be any seventeen sixteen games the rest of the twenty

799
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 8: twenty four season.

800
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Well, they did play the Ravens again. That's just there

801
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: just always seemed to be that.

802
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, but they're they're you know it, it

803
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 8: could be in the you know, mid twenties.

804
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't think no touchdowns. It's yeah, he beat the

805
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: Ravens again, right right, It's just.

806
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: Not six yield goals isn't going to get it done.

807
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: Right, You're going to have to score touchdown unless mission through.

808
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Even with that.

809
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 8: So but yeah, we haven't we haven't seen this kind

810
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 8: of offense. As I said, you know, you were thrown

811
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 8: out the stats from twenty eighteen, which was pre elbow surgery.

812
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's it's been that long. I mean,

813
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 8: you know, twenty eighteen, that's what six years ago. Uh,

814
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 8: in NFL years, that's.

815
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: Careers for all, that's a generation.

816
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 8: Yes, so again, I you know, and Russell Wilson showed

817
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 8: why you know, he was signed by the Steelers when

818
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 8: he became available. He showed why he was given the

819
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 8: pole position. He showed why you make the move despite

820
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 8: being and foreign two with justin fields, because you have

821
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 8: to be able to do a lot of the things

822
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 8: that he was doing. Uh last Sunday in these games,

823
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 8: as Mike Comans says, as the road gets narrow, and

824
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 8: you know the Steelers have that. And he is also

825
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 8: a guy, you know, Russell Wilson is. He is inclusive,

826
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 8: he is positive. Uh, he's a leader.

827
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: Uh. He does all of those things.

828
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 8: And I just think that even when Pickett had a

829
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 8: good gain, he never had that presence with his teammates.

830
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: He was young.

831
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: Uh and you know you need you need some experience,

832
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 8: you need he brings.

833
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: He brings a little gravitas to the position. Guys. Guys,

834
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: every guy, every especially the offensive guys who are mostly

835
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 4: young guys. They I grew up watching Russell Wilson play,

836
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: right you know, he's been in the league for thirteen years.

837
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: You go back thirteen years on, say Pat Fryermouth.

838
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: He was twelve.

839
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, played Madden with Wilson. They played Madden with this guy.

840
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, so anyway, that's I think we're

841
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 8: on the same page, except for Matt you know, being

842
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 8: Debbie Downer, so he could take my job away from me.

843
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 5: So it looks like Alex high smiths set the return

844
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: hopefully this game. But herbig has been unbelievable. Preston Smith's

845
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 5: been a nice addition. What is what I mean, how

846
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: do you handle that? Positions? There's not enough playing time

847
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 5: to go round?

848
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and I don't know that it's that's

849
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 8: I'm not worried about that. And I don't think any

850
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 8: of those guys are either. I you know, Alex Highsmith

851
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 8: is more than just his sack total. And I do

852
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 8: believe you know, this will be the first time they've

853
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 8: had those those top three guys together since the Chargers came, yeah,

854
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 8: which September whatever.

855
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: Twenty when they have Alex Eighsmith in three and three

856
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: when they don't.

857
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 5: That's the first time the four of them have been

858
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 5: active together, right, Yeah.

859
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: And you know you so.

860
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 8: To me, the pass rush was inadequate on Thursday night

861
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 8: in Cleveland. Now I understand there were circumstances with climate

862
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 8: and footing and visibility and all that stuff, but.

863
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: My mind on Sunday, you know, you just rotate those.

864
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 8: Guys through there and torture the Browns past protection as

865
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 8: much as possible.

866
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: And you got to do a better job of getting.

867
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 8: After Janus because you know, you need you need bad

868
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 8: Jamis to show up again. As he said something about them,

869
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 8: I'm praying to God to deliver me from the sixes

870
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 8: or something like that.

871
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 5: After that much, Yeah, right, very hard.

872
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's you know, Jameis Winston is a

873
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 8: is a gunslinger kind of guy, and he's gonna he's

874
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 8: gonna keep throwing it. He's gonna keep trying to make plays.

875
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 8: He's going to be pushing the ball down the field.

876
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 8: He's not you know, he's not gonna be dumping it off.

877
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 8: He's not going to be throwing it out of bounds

878
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 8: on this, you know, just instead of trying to force

879
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 8: the ball in there somewhere or make a play, so

880
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 8: you know, get after him and uh, you know, take

881
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 8: advantage of who he is.

882
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Uh, in a in a much.

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Speaker 8: More consistent fashion than you were able to do on

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Speaker 8: Thursday night in Cleveland. And you know, the actual the

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Speaker 8: Browns game. I like what it is because I think

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Speaker 8: that you know, it was embarrassing. It had to be embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: There was There was not a happy face in that

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Speaker 4: locker room after that loss. I can tell you that

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Speaker 4: they were pretty ticked off.

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Speaker 5: I think it's good so soon after.

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Speaker 8: Too, yes, right, because it's still stings.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was humbling.

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Speaker 8: I thought it had to be because I thought in

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Speaker 8: a lot of ways they the Steelers got handled on

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Speaker 8: both lines of scrimmage. And you can't have that against Cleveland.

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Speaker 8: I mean you can't have that period. But against whatever

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Speaker 8: they were two and eight at the time. You know Tomlinson,

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Speaker 8: whoever Thomlinson, that interior defensive lineman. Uh, that was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: he was. He was too much of a problem, uh,

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Speaker 8: in that game. And then and then doing it, you

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Speaker 8: know the other way. I thought that, you know, the

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Speaker 8: Cleveland offensive line, they they protected when they had to,

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Speaker 8: and they carved up, carved open some holes for people

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Speaker 8: running the ball. That wasn't always a running back. People

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Speaker 8: running the ball in some critical situations. So yeah, there's

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Speaker 8: there's plenty of payback farder there for the Steelers, and

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Speaker 8: and it's fodder that they don't like. Two you know,

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Speaker 8: they don't like. They don't like to lose for sure,

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Speaker 8: but getting out physical is I think ten times worse.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I think that's why there were so many of those

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Speaker 4: down faces in that one, because those that does not

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Speaker 4: sit well with those guys at all. And you can

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Speaker 4: guarantee that it does not sit well with the coaching

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Speaker 4: staff that that that happens. But uh, lads, we've got

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Speaker 4: to let you go here at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you dropping by it a little different time today,

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Speaker 4: but we appreciate your understanding with that. He is Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 4: the Dean of Doom, the lord of living in his fears,

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Speaker 4: and I'll see you on Sunday, Bob. In the press box,

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Speaker 4: he's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. This is the

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Speaker 4: drive on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be

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Speaker 4: back with our number two right after this