1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, Straight Fire, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: fam Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Well Wednesday, May twelve, and uh, 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: let's just say I heard from a bunch of people 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow. You guys are fired up about that topic. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: We may or may not touch on it later in 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the pod. Got a lot of other fun stuff in 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: the hopper, and folks, I'll just start here. There is 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: a rumor in the college basketball world. We have to 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: start the podcast with it. It's it started late Tuesday night, 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: and obviously I'm jumping on it because it's an opportunity 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: for me to put myself on the back and say hey, hey, hey, 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: look at me. I I was all over this two 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: months ago. But we did a podcast I think at 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the end of the n c A tournament about the 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: blue Bloods being at a crossroads, how Kentucky didn't go 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: dancing and Duke didn't go to the tournament. UNC got 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: smoked in the first round, and it's it just feels 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: like the nineteen ninety domination nine two early two thousand 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: domination of U n C and Duke with two coaches 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: who are now in their seventies, feels about over and 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: then a month later or maybe like three weeks later, 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Willy Williams retires and kind of kind of was unhappy 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: on his way out. You know, his seven footer was 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: transferring a high recruit. He's like, come on, these guys 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: are just bailing quickly, like he's frustrated. Well, the rumor 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: out there and again, this is just a rumor. Although 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: by the time this podcast drops, who knows what's going on? 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Uh in Durham that coach K maybe retiring this week. 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: I first heard it from I'll just say an a 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: AU coach who I know and out here in l A. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: He heard the rumor. I talked to somebody in Florida. Um, 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I'll just say on the basketball scene and know the 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: person does not have a sibling or a relative working 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: at Duke. That the chatter is out there. Um again, 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Coach K is getting up there in age. He's been 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: around forever. He's accomplished a ton. One of the greatest 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: college basketball coaches out there. But again we're in it 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: era like the one and done stuff, you know, the name, 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the uh likeness and image. Um, the players profiting off that. 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff is changing. The ground is shifting. 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: Quickly in college basketball. And to say, if it's the 42 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: end of an era, you know, if Roy Williams and 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Coach k both hang them up in you know, the 44 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: off season of one, that this is a landmark moment 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: in college basketball. Now, I like the sport personally, you 46 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: guys know, I love March badness. Um an opportunity to 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: shoot my horn again. I finished third in a March 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Badness pool. As Rob g rolls his eyes, uh wants 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: some money on that listen. I like gambling, I love 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: March badness, and I like college basketball. Super nerdy of me. 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I was in college the Internet had kind of just 52 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: started to pop and chat rooms and you end up 53 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: meeting a bunch of weirdos and chat rooms, and these 54 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: guys were like, Hey, we're starting a fantasy college basketball 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: league where you you do keepers and you keep your 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: stats by hand, and um, it's gonna be awesome. If 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a guy leaves early for the f b A, you 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: lose him. And I was like, I'm so in on this, 59 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and I did it, and like I've just been a 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: hardcore college basketball nerd. And the other reason that I 61 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of like recruiting, like college basketball recruiting interests me 62 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: on some level. You know the great stories of um, 63 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Danny Manning in the eighties going with uh, you know, 64 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: his dad to Kansas and winning a title, Uh Danny 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and the miracles with Larry Brown, Larry next Town Brown. 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: And this happens a lot. Um, we just saw that 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: with the kid Mobley, Uh, the USC stud His brother 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: goes there, his dad gets a job, he goes there, 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: and USC makes a deep run in the tournament. Like 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm interested in recruiting, there's a lot of chatter that 71 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a top five recruit is about to make his decision 72 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: this week and apparently, and again I'm not gonna say 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: the kid's name, but the rumor has it he is 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: potentially flipping from Duke because of this coach k rumor 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: to another blue blood. We'll see what happens. Maybe nothing happens, 76 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh, you're way wrong. I'm not. I'm 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: just saying this is what we've heard, folks. Um, I 78 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: know that the awful announcings of the world love to say. 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: You can't just put stuff out there that you hear. Listen, 80 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: it's a rumor, it's out there. Um, I'm not the 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: only one talking about this. Yeah, let's just say that 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: you look around the internet, you will find some credible 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: people who are saying, keep an eye on this situation 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: in Durham. We'll see maybe Coach K does not retire 85 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and he makes one more run. You don't want to 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: go out with the season he just had, you know, 87 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: his top recruit quitting in the middle of the season. 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: Um you know of of a COVID infected season in 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: and just completely bailing. Uh, you don't want that to 90 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: be the last memory of coach K. I would love 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: for him to get three five star guys and then 92 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: he makes a run and then goes out on top 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: John Elways style. That would be cool. But that's one 94 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: of the big, big potential sports stories this week, as 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: if there weren't enough. Um, you know the other one. 96 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: Also late Tuesday night, Kyrie Irving had just gone down 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: with what looked like a facial injury of chich and 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I know I butchered his name of the Bulls goes 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: up for a rebound. Kyrie challenging for a rebound because 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: he tries hard. Uh, takes like an elbow right in 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: like the ice socket nose area, and he was woozy 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: stayed down for a few minutes and left. They're saying 103 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: it was not a concussion. He was clearly shaken up 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: within an hour. The Nets reveal on Tuesday night James 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: Harden game time decision for for today's game against the 106 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs. So Harden has been out forever, and 107 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, I know people were looking at the Nets um, 108 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe falling to the three seed and having 109 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: a tough first round matchup against Miami. UM, but it's 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: looking increasingly like it's going to be a challenge for 111 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: them if Hardened and Kyrie are out. I'm hoping Harden 112 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: places haven't seen him playing forever. I'll just say this. 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: We do pick up basketball games out here in l A. 114 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: We played last week and a similar play. An elbow 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: comes down on a guy's face and you know, he's 116 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: covering his face, covered his face and then he picks 117 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: it up and it's you know, got blood all over 118 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: his hands, and we're like, oh, that stinks. So we 119 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: called the game. We just having. It's like our fourth 120 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: or fifth game, So yeah, let you know what, one injury, 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: let's just bail on that, UM, and you know, hope 122 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is healthy. The NBA doesn't need any more injuries. Seriously, 123 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is how bad it is, folks. We've 124 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: got Oscar Robertson, the Triple Double King, going on Rob 125 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: G's radio show The Odd Couple, Fox Sports Radio Tuesday 126 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: and saying that Russell Westbrook, Yes, that Russell Westbrook should 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: be the m v P. This is exactly what Oscar 128 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Robertson said on The Odd Couple. You know, he's not 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: even talked about as an MVP candidate anymore. That's a shame, 130 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: that's a disgrace. He broke a record and they don't 131 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: even think about him. Russell Westbrook should win the m 132 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: v P again. Now, I will say this about Oscar Robertson. 133 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: Rob G, you know, Producer to the Stars, got Oscar 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Robertson on my radio show a few years ago, and 135 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: it was just he's willing to say very very hot 136 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: take action. He's willing to go there and just put 137 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: his name out there. He doesn't care. Some of these 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: older gentlemen Bill Russell, Uh Famously, these guys will just 139 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: say whatever. They don't care. They've accomplished so much in basketball, 140 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: who gives a rip? They they will just say whatever 141 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: is on their mind. Um, I mean, you know, I 142 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: know Oscar Robertson is old. I'm not gonna attack him here. 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: I just want to kind of kind of want to 144 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: remind Nascar Robertson that the Wizards are thirty two and 145 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: thirty seven and in the East, and you know, Russell Westbrook, 146 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: no doubt, has been tremendous helping them get back in 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: the mix. He's shooting on three pointers, a career worst 148 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: on free throws, but he's trying really, really hard as 149 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: thirty six triple doubles. Listen, that deserves props. He has 150 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: been incredible. I'm not bashing him. And that's one of 151 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: these problems like people here, even a little challenging of 152 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: something of someone and it's an instant, Well, why are 153 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: you bashing him? There's no bashing at all. Russell Westbrook 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: currently in the league in player efficiency rating, right behind 155 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: former Laker Brandon Ingram, right behind former Laker Julius randall Right, 156 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: I had to needle you, Rob g behind the the 157 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: immortal Tobias Harris, the max player in Philly, Fatty Us Young. Yeah, 158 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: he's having a really good season. He has a higher 159 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: player efficiency rating then Russell Westbrook And if you just 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: want me, well, Jay, you'r cherry picking guys. Okay, you 161 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: know what, I'll isolate point guards for you. How about that. 162 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: That's the cool thing about the stats. You can isolate them. 163 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: So among NBA point guards, Russell Westbrook is the ninth 164 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: most efficient in the league this year. Drew Holidays eight, 165 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: Deer and Fox seven, Chris Paul six, Tray Young, Tray 166 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Young trigger, Tray Young five, Kyrie for Luca three, Damian 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Lillard too. And um, Rob, do you want to guess 168 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: who is leading NBA point guards in player efficiency rating? 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: Any wild guesses? Just the guess he's he's shooting threes. 170 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I would guess it's the guy who does shimmy and 171 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: mimics defecating on a basketball court. Afterwards. The Steph Curry 172 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: slander must stop it must Um, You've got to You've 173 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: got to just chill with it. Um. But you know 174 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I got I had to lead Rob into that just 175 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: because you know, again, I'd like to bring you guys 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: inside the process. You know, we're texting about topics, about 177 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: guest ideas. Um, we do appreciate the insight. And by 178 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: the way, listen, I know that the Twitter is a 179 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: cauldron of hate. There are some impressive comments on There's 180 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: some guys who challenged me in a way I where 181 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not like you're an idiot bleep bleep bleep bleep bleep, 182 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: Like that's not how you. You don't just go up 183 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: to people and do that, Like that's not society. Don't 184 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: be that guy. For instance, I had no idea what 185 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: a straight lame was and a guy sent it to 186 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: my Instagram d M S. I was like, here it is. 187 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: I looked it up for you, and I was like, 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: thank you, that's useful information. And I have a feeling 189 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: that Rob his hot take. I don't know. I posted 190 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: this on my Instagram stories. Who has had the better 191 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: point guard career Steve Nash two time n B A 192 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: n B A m v P Steve Nash or Russell 193 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: Westbrook And I actually thought people would pick Russ. And 194 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: it's funny. I remember I said point guard. I didn't 195 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: say player point guard Steve Nash. And you know, you 196 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: guys can diminish Steve Nash as much as you want 197 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: and say, oh, well he didn't deserve it over shock 198 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I just want to remind people 199 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: first Team All NBA, meaning you were the best one 200 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: of the two best guards in the league, and he 201 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: made that three times. Russell Westbrook has only made it twice. Yes, 202 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: Auster is gonna have him in the counting stats rebounds 203 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: by a mile points for sure, because he jacks a 204 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: million shots and shockingly they're tied and it's just per 205 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: game for their career, which is pretty impressive for us. 206 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: He is a point guard. The problem is the question 207 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: is point guard and Steve Nash led Phoenix and to 208 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: a lesser extent, Dallas to some pretty impressive highs when 209 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: he was in his prime. Russell Westbrook since Kevin Durant departed, 210 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: has won how many playoff series? Rob? That would be zero? 211 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Bob alright? Um, With all that being said, Rob G 212 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: had texted me his rust take and I think you 213 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: guys are gonna like it because Rob Rob's feeling empowered 214 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: after the awesome Dame Lillard Paul George idea. Um, Rob's 215 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: feeling himself, He's in his feelings. He's got something hot 216 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: for you. Take it away, Rob G. Fox Sports Radio 217 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 218 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com 219 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 220 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: R to listen live. First off. As relates to the 221 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard Paul George thing, I also got some hate 222 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: on that one as well. There was that that means 223 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: you're winning. There was some incendiary a tweets sent my 224 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: way telling me how dumb I was and I didn't 225 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: deserve to talk about basketball. So welcome to the party, America, 226 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: John McLean, Well, it's not as badly when Chris Brusstarted 227 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: banned me from talking basketball on the Odd Couple one 228 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: time for like a week. Is that a real thing? Yes, 229 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: it was because I said that I had Kobe ahead 230 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: of Magic Johnson and the all time list. So he 231 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: batted me for for five days from talking basketball. Look, man, 232 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: when you're when you're of a certain age like Chris 233 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: Brusstart is, you can take offense of that kind of stuff. 234 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: But the hot take that we've been marinating, well I've 235 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: been marinating on for about two days now, and and 236 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it on yesterday's Bob, but I understood, 237 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: you know what, the Tim Tebow news. Unfortunately, we just 238 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: had to push it off for another day. But I 239 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: think that the build up now, I think America is 240 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: ready for it. I am saying with a straight face, 241 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: with a clear conscience, that Russell Westbrooks triple double record 242 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that he has now four seasons of 243 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: averaging a triple double is more impressive on the court 244 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: than anything Steph Curry has done in his career. I 245 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: don't think that's that hot of a take. I think that, um, 246 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: and again, we didn't this all the time. If I 247 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: if I say one thing is better than the other, 248 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: then suddenly I'm just shipping all over the other thing, 249 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and that's not what I mean to do it all. 250 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is an all time great player. Steph Curry 251 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: is the greatest shooter we've ever seen. However, I firmly 252 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: believe that nobody is ever going to touch Russell Westbrook 253 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to these triple doubles. And am ever, 254 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: NB I think that when all said and done, he's 255 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: probably gonna have upwards of two. Oh come, he's got 256 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: hes to seventy more and he's averaging thirty to forty 257 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: a season now. He he's also thirty two and like 258 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: breaking down. Okay, you think he's breaking down? This is 259 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: the fun stat courtesy of Nick Wright from First Things First, 260 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: by way of Chris Vernon from The Ringer. Since the 261 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: All Star Break, and again Russell Westbrook was breaking down. Allegedly, 262 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: he has four hundred and fifty six assists, which is 263 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: first in the NBA. Second places Chris Paul He's a 264 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty behind Russell Westbrook since the All Star Break, 265 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: has four hundred and fifty five rebounds, which again leads 266 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the NBA, forty five more then the second place guy, 267 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: which is the Yonis Valentiunis. So if that's breaking down, 268 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: then sign me up for that any day of the week. 269 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: By breaking down, I mean the injuries are mounting. There's 270 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: a reason he's missed, like what fifteen games he got 271 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: like he was I think in the he he didn't 272 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: a early and the Wizards were terrible. Um, he needed 273 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: that time off because I mean Russell Westbrook, I know 274 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: when he's out there, he plays his butt off, but 275 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: rob the pounding he's taken because he his style of 276 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: play is Iverson, Like remember Iverson fell off a cliff. 277 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Because his style is I'm gonna attack the him every 278 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: time and I'm gonna get hammered and I'm gonna hit 279 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: the deck. I'm gonna come up with shoot free throws, 280 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: and I can't shoot because, you know what, I've relied 281 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: on my athleticism my entire life, and I never really 282 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: developed a jump shot. And as much as I like 283 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Allen Iverson, like that's true, and all of a sudden, 284 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Alan Iverson, you know, couldn't really shoot. And next thing 285 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's on like three teams in a season 286 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and then it's bing bang boom, it's over. The end 287 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: will come squiftly. I will be shocked if Westbrook has 288 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: another seventy triple doubles. Um. You've even said multiple times 289 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: on the spot that this is a historic outlier of 290 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: an offensive season. I think, what four of the top 291 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: ten all time offensive seasons have happened this year? Seven? 292 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: Seven of the top eight. Okay, all that being said, 293 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm not even certain that he ends up his career 294 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: as the triple double leader because of two guys who 295 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: are very young and posting insane triple double numbers themselves. Uh. 296 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: And before I even get to Nicola Yokich and Luka 297 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: don Chech, I just want to ask you, when you 298 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: look at triple doubles all time? What do they mean, 299 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: rob G. They mean that you have dominated the game 300 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: statistically more than anybody else on the floor, that you 301 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: were in more places, being more active than anybody else 302 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: on the floor. Okay, so um, I look at the 303 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: all time triple double list, Um, Oscar Robertson is the 304 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: only guy, well, him and Wilt from that era. Bob 305 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: Cuzy had a bunch to have the check basically like 306 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: fifty to seven eighty nine, you know, but Elgin Baylor 307 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: had a bunch. Okay. Then you look at the list 308 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: as like Magic point guard, Kid, point guard, Lebron, point forward, 309 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: Larry Bird. Oh, James James Harden. What's he doing on 310 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: that list? Oh he transitioned from shooting guard to point guard. Okay, 311 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: got it? Um? And then comes Nicola yok who's twenty 312 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: six years old and has fifty six. I'll finish that 313 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: in a minute. But then I keep looking down the list. 314 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: I'm like, hold up, Genrondo has thirty two triple doubles. 315 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan only had eight. Does that mean Gen Rondo 316 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: dominated the game on some level that maybe Jordan didn't. 317 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: Draymond Green twenty nine triple doubles. Michael Jordan. I mean, 318 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Chris Webber had twenty one triple doubles, Kobe had twenty one. 319 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: This one stunned me. I almost fell out of my chair. 320 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: Alfred Peyton former first topic by Nix seventeen, Chris Paul's sixteen, 321 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett sixteen, Gary Peyton fifteen, David rob Ben sent 322 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: alajo on fourteen. Nicola Yokich has more triple doubles this 323 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: season then Robinson and Elijah had in their career. He 324 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: may have more this season then Kevin Garnett had in 325 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: his career. Charles Barkley had twenty in his career. I mean, 326 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: the triple double numbers are now are so inflated. Ben Simmons, 327 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: by the way, has thirty two. Ben Simmons is about 328 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: to crack the top ten for triple doubles sometime early 329 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: next season. Now, let me just bring up your Kich. 330 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I crunched the numbers. He's already 331 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: ninth in the history of the NBA with triple doubles 332 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: fifteen this season in just sixty eight games. He's gone 333 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: up a couple every year. If you say that he's 334 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: going to get fifteen a year, and that's conservative. He's 335 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: got the fifteen this year in sixty eight games. If 336 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: he gets fifteen a year for the next eight years 337 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: and he for whatever reason does it miss games, he's 338 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: never hurt, that's gonna take him right up to where 339 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: close to where Russell Westbrook is right now. And that's 340 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: just being conservative. Yokich eight more years, Okay, that'll put 341 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: him within striking distance of Westbrook. I mean, Westbrook is 342 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: still gonna get some so Yoki will catch him. But 343 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Yoki just probably headed toward number two all time triple 344 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: doubles unless you factor in Luca don Chech who Robb 345 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: g is twenty two led the league last year in 346 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: triple doubles with seventeen in just sixty one games. He's 347 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: got thirty five in his career. I think it's safe 348 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: to assume Lucas probably gonna get twenty, probably gonna get 349 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty a year, maybe twenty five. The way he plays, 350 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: would you agree, the balls in his hands all the time, 351 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: he rebounds like a madman, because so he probably he's 352 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna catch us in a decade. Now, we'll see how 353 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: his body holds up. Uh, I don't know. About that. 354 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: But bottom line is like this idea that this record 355 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: is never gonna fall, I don't know. It feels like 356 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: balder dash to me. It feels like a bit of 357 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: a hot take. Your response, Well, it's not just the 358 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: totality of the total number of triple doubles, which I said, 359 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end uploser to fifty. So well 360 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: that would be difficult to catch. For for he has 361 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: thirty six this season. He does playing on a on 362 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: on a team that plays no defense and all they 363 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: do is just run up and down the court and 364 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: score exactly. It's very strange. Is that style sustainable in 365 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the NBA? Do you think the NBA, like, is gonna 366 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: play more defense next year because there's none being played 367 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: this year. I think you'll see a little bit of 368 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: a regression to the mean you see a little bit 369 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: more defense next season. I think they compressed schedule had 370 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: a lot to do with it, and that's why, you know, 371 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: guys just want to get through these games because they 372 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: have another one tomorrow night, so they're they're less likely 373 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: to grit and grind and play defense. So I think 374 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: you'll see a little bit not not much different, but 375 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: you'll see a little bit different. Um. But it's it's 376 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: not just the total of the triple doubles. It's the 377 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: fact that he is going to have at a time 378 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: when people thought it was unheard of to drive average 379 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: triple double idn't be done in forty years, and he's 380 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: done it now for the last five seasons. And I 381 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: think that there's too many people who are basically just 382 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: taking it for granted, and and this idea that all 383 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: he's doing is stat padding, which in my opinion, is 384 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: one of the laziest things you can have, considering his 385 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: team wins seventy five percent of the games that he 386 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: does this. Okay, I think we're people were questioning the 387 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: stat padding, and I haven't heard that this year. I 388 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: heard it more in the Okay See Days and someone 389 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I remember someone putting basically breaking down a film of 390 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: where the other team would attempt to free throw and 391 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: Russ would not be at the bottom and he would say, 392 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I got this, and the other big guys would just 393 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 1: let him get the rebound. And there is video footage 394 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: of this. Now, this was back in his Okay see days, 395 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: right before Paul George got there. It is almost as 396 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: if they were having him do this post Durant to 397 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: kind of get him a win, you know, I mean, like, 398 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: I know that sounds disrespectful, but he kind of got 399 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: dumped by Durant Durant Bales and he's stuck there holding 400 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: the bag, not thrilled. Right right, what can we do? Well, 401 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: we could just get him to pattistats and average, triple 402 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: double and like that kind of masked the stench of 403 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: the season that he had. And I don't are you 404 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: that impressed with triple doubles? Rob g If it was 405 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: that easy, everybody would do it. There's a reason why. 406 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, granted, I totally disagree with Oscar Robertson saying 407 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: he's the's MVP, but there is a reason why guys 408 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: like him, guys like Magic Johnson, guys like Lebron James, 409 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: have all come out and said how impressive this is. 410 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: Because if it was that easy, you mean to tell 411 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: me that there hasn't been enough multitalented players in the 412 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: NBA that could have challenged this record. There isn't another 413 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: guy who could have one season even average or triple 414 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: double and it hasn't happened, and it's probably not gonna 415 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: happen by anybody else, because it takes a certain level 416 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: of conditioning number one and number two commitment of playing 417 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: hard all the time. And today's exactly you have load management. 418 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: You have guys who are saving themselves for the postseason. 419 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: And that's one thing with Russell Westbrook that I'm always 420 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna respect, whether he flames out in the playoffs like 421 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: he usually does, even though I will say that his 422 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: playoff resume is better than some of the people that 423 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: he gets mentioned alongside shout out to Chris Paul. Oh well, 424 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has had the injuries. I just want to 425 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: point out I didn't notice this earlier triple double list. 426 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Tell me what these top eight seven guys have in 427 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: common except for Russell Westbrook, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson, Jason 428 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: kidd Lebron Wilt, Larry Bird. You had their point guards, 429 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: but no, you had to put a ring on it 430 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: to get your wife. Okay, They've all got titles except 431 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: for the guy who's number one. And I do find 432 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: that a little bit odd. I do. I do find 433 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: that a little lot. I'm sorry, I sound like a hater. 434 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I know I should just stop. As much as I 435 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: mean You can critique Crest Brussell Westbrook in that regard 436 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: all you want. It's a fair critique. However, there are 437 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot of very, very very good players in basketball 438 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: history who don't have championships. Krown Malone, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, 439 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: who is arguably in the amount rushmore of NBA point guards. Okah, 440 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: by the way he leads all NBA point guards, I believe, 441 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: and assists and steals. Yes, to me, that's more impressive 442 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: than triple doubles. But see both ends. John Stockton, his 443 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: job on offense was to get the ball to Crown alone, 444 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: which is why Karmelone is the all is one of 445 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: the all time scoring leaders. Had he played longer the 446 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: way Kareema bul Jabbar did, maybe he catches him, you know. 447 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: And and I just feel like there's two. It's too 448 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: easily dismissed. What Russell Westbrook is doing. And the fact 449 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: that he's willing to play that hard and cares that 450 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: much on a night tonight basis is something that not 451 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: enough people appreciate. I think we appreciate it. I'm speaking 452 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: with the Royal we Um. I think people appreciate it. 453 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: But it's how do I how do I say this 454 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: without coming off as a hater, Like, don't you think 455 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: they would appreciate wins over triple doubles. I would appreciate 456 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: about this. I would appreciate it more if Russell Westbrook said, 457 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I know I have athletic ability, but you know what, 458 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I want to be a complete player. I want to 459 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: develop a three point shot, and I want to get 460 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: in the lab and work on my shot so I 461 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: have a reliable three pointer. That's the one weakness in 462 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: my game. And you'll see it in the postseason when 463 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: they play in the Playing game, teams will sag off Russ. 464 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: They will go under screens and they will dare him 465 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: to shoot because he can't. He's never worked on that. 466 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: He's really good at rebounding, he's really good at passing. 467 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: He's a great scorer, but he can't shoot the ball. 468 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 1: And it's gonna I mean, and I feel bad, but 469 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: like we'll get you wanted us to give all this 470 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: props to him. I get it, great, wonderful, And guess what. 471 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: The last memory we're gonna have of him is in 472 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: the Playing game shooting five for twenty one and they 473 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: lose by eight. I mean, unfortunately, isn't. I mean, I 474 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: don't want to give Rob your guy Rob Parker any 475 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: credit here, but you know, wins and losses kind of 476 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: sort of matter. But wins and losses is so much 477 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: of a context thing. And I'm gonna bring a full 478 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: circle because I mentioned Steph Curry as him, I would 479 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: say I would take Russell Westbrook's triple double feats as 480 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: more impressed in anything that Steph is done. If you 481 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: look at the context of what happened with Steph Curry 482 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: his first championship, they didn't face a single starting point 483 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: guard on their way to the championship because everybody got hurt. 484 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: He blows a three one lead to Lebron and then 485 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: has to call Kevin Durant to help even the score 486 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: and tips the balance so much in his team's favor 487 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: where it would have been a shocker if they lost, 488 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: or if they even got pushed to seven games like 489 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: did by Houston. People were more impressed that Houston pushed 490 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: Golden State to seven games than anything else that James 491 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Harden did in the Houston era. That's fair, and so 492 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: that's how loaded those teams were. I would counter that 493 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: you can play that game with almost anyone. You could 494 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: do it with Kobe Bryant. What happened when Shack left? 495 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean he got couldn't win anything. Well, then he 496 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: turned Palla Gasol. Would never want a playoff series into 497 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: a perennial Pasol. I mean, I'd have to look it up. 498 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't he a top five pick? I mean, was a 499 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: top five pick? Doesn't really? Twiggens was a number one 500 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: overall pick. Yeah, but I mean Palla Gasol was like 501 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: an international legend. The guy was a scoring machine. He 502 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: was a great player. He some bad teams in Memphis. 503 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean you could do this with Michael Jordan's and 504 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: you could say, oh, yeah, Michael had to wait for 505 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: Larry Bird to break his back, Isaiah and the Pistons 506 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: to break down because they had gone to the finals 507 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: three or four straight times. And then Magic it's HIV 508 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: and he wins the title over Magic, and then you know, look, 509 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 1: the sea opens up, Magic's gone, Birds a wreck and 510 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah shatters as Achilles, ruptures as Achilles, and it's done 511 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: at thirty two, and Michael Jordan rolls, absolutely rolls through 512 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: a depleted NBA like you could play that card. You 513 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: could say a Chima lajah one only has the rings 514 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: because Michael Jordan retired. You know, like you can I 515 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: feel like you can do this game, the curry the 516 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: Jordan's Alaja one. You could to an extent play that 517 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: with almost I mean, hell, you could do it with 518 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Lebron you can do I mean yeah, but you can 519 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: also you can also view it the other way. Russell 520 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Westbrook and Kevin Durant James Harden made the finals I 521 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: would say two or three years too early because they 522 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: were such a young team and they ran into Lebron 523 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and the heat and just were overmatched. Um they had 524 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: a series of injuries. I think Russell Westbrook had his 525 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: knee taken out by Pat Beverley, Kevin Durant breaks his foot, 526 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: and then when they finally have their best team that 527 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: I think they've ever had was when they blew the 528 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: three one leads to Golden State. People forget that they 529 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: were essentially playing three on five on offense because there 530 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: are other two players there on the court were like 531 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins and Andre Roberson, and so they were going 532 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: against a team that could score, that could fill it up, 533 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: and it took a Clay Thompson legendary Game six Clay. 534 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: It became a trending topic because of what Clay Thompson 535 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: did in that series. So all these different things matter. 536 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: You can play it in a positive way and in 537 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: a negative way. And I think that there's too much 538 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: schlant negatively towards what Russell Westbrook has accomplished. I mean, 539 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: we've even done it with the Denver Nuggets last year. Again, guys, 540 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: go look at Game seven Jazz Nuggets. Mike Conley's three 541 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: is halfway down and rolls out and the Nuggets survived. 542 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: They were down three one in that series. The Nuggets 543 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: were about to get just dusted, and they survived. And 544 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: then they win the next round and they get to 545 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: and now it's like, oh, the Nuggets are amazing. Okay, 546 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: they got kind of lucky to get out. Let's see 547 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: how they do this year. And then Jamal Murray goes 548 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: down and it's like, you know, the NBA is just 549 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers. It really is. I mean, again, Chris Paul 550 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt the hammy. You know, they probably rob and listen. 551 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean I might might have told 552 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the story. So it was game I think it was 553 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Game five of Warriors Rockets. It was to two. And 554 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: then it was in Houston and I was at a 555 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: dinner on the beach with the wife and then another couple, 556 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: and I kept checking the score on my phone and 557 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: it's like the fourth quarter and I told the wife. 558 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. So yeah, 559 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: I go find a restaurant. Just parked myself in front 560 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: of TV with my buddy and it's like down the 561 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: stretch and I'm rooting, openly rooting for the Warriors in 562 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: this bar, and I guess there were some Rockets fans 563 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: and this guy, you know, I mean casual Beach Town Talks, 564 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: was like kind of talking ship. I was like, Warriors 565 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: got this. The Rockets are choke artists. And Chris Paul 566 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: hits the shot, does the shimmy, and I was just like, 567 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, maybe the greatest team I've ever seen, 568 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: better than any of those Jordan teams, was gonna lose 569 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: k D Clay Curry Drayboard. They were, they were in trouble, 570 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: and within a minute after hitting that shot, I think 571 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: it was literally like two minutes of time, Chris Paul 572 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: pulls the hamstring and I was like, oh, Wow. And 573 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: the Warriors got kind of lucky, right, did they not? 574 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if and like they win the obviously they 575 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: win the next two games. I mean Game six is 576 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: still uh, it was still okay. Game seven was awesome 577 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: even without Chris Paul. They led it to half by 578 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: double digits. The Rockets didn't. Warriors came back, but I 579 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: mean you could even play forward. Somebody hit me with 580 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: this earlier the U the Kauai injury in game one, 581 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: you remember that. I think it was when yeah, now 582 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: you have to give a space the land to the 583 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: land on a jump shot. The Warriors only lost one 584 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: playoff game, and it was too uh. Lebron and Kyrie 585 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: when they made like I'm not even kidding. I think 586 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: it was like twenty nine three pointers. It was like 587 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: an NBA Finals record for three's in a game. And 588 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: that was their only loss. I'll never forget because I 589 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: had gone on Cowherd Show and said the Warriors will 590 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: sweep the Calves and everybody just keep murdering me, okay, 591 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: because the Calves were awesome that year. Offensively with love 592 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie and Lebron, they were incredible. Didn't They come in 593 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: only losing like two games themselves into the finals. They 594 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: were awesome. Now, of course the Warriors had to survive 595 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: being down like twenty two the Spurs. Um, Yeah, I'm 596 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: sure you remember that game. It was like a Sunday afternoon, 597 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: I think Mother's Day maybe, and they're down, like, well, 598 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: not Mother's Day, because it would have been it might 599 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: have been Mother's Day. They're down like twenty going into 600 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: the fourth Kyrie uh sorry, Kawhi Leonard gets knocked out 601 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: by Zaza and the Warriors storm back and win and 602 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: sweep them. But to fast forward to that NBA Finals, Um, 603 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: where's win game one? Where's win Game two? And then 604 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: in game three, that's the game where the Warriors come 605 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: down and Kevin Durant does like the what's it called. 606 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: It's a rhythm dribble where you put it between your 607 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: legs and you just pull up for a deep three, 608 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: and he just splashed it in Lebron's face and it 609 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh wow. And the Warriors win and they 610 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: go up three nothing, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, 611 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Jason called the sweep holy and like 612 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: all I had so many rob so weird, so many 613 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: media requests, even at three oh, and I was like, wow, 614 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: you know it's not over, but I mean, how could 615 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: you up three? Nothing? Come on, it feels like a 616 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: rap and a course, you know, whereas don't play the 617 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: defensive game four and I look like a jackass? And uh, 618 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: whereas end up winning? Um, you know in five. But again, 619 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: like every team, every player to an extent gets a 620 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: little lucky. I'll just say this, Rob, would you put 621 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook First Team All NBA at guard after this 622 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: trouble double season? So it does he finish? Let me 623 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: hear your m v P valot m vv ballot as 624 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: of right now, Well, he's not on it, you know, 625 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: because he's not top five because I do value you know, 626 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: winning who who? Okay, But that's that's two different discussions. 627 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: That's two different discussions, you know. Um, it's just the totality, 628 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: totality of what he's doing. It can't be dismissed anymore. 629 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: It can't be just viewed as something that it's an Oh, 630 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: it's cool, but it doesn't matter because in that rings 631 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: like that's part of the reason why I believe so 632 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: many people are turning away from the NBA, why the 633 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: ratings are down, is because sports media, people like you 634 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: and me and people on FS one, people on ESPN 635 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: have conditioned basketball fans that the only thing that matters 636 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: is the ring. If you didn't get the championship, don't 637 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: care about exactly. Jimmy Butler's career somehow took a hit 638 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: because he didn't win the title exactly. So because of that, 639 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: people are less inclined to watch regular season basketball. They're 640 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: less inclined to watch the early rounds of the playoffs, 641 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, they're less inclined to 642 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: watch the NBA Finals because Lebron James is the only 643 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: one who anyone cares about if he's in it or not. Yeah, 644 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: it's um listen. We could do another thirty minutes on 645 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: this easily, but I was just giving the triple double 646 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: list and I thought you would find this interesting. So 647 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: remember lamar Odom with the Lakers. He was thought to 648 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: be a triple double machine right three tool player, assists, rebounds, points. 649 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: First career, he has twelve triple doubles. Kevin Duran has twelve, 650 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: Demontis sa Bonus has twelve triple doubles. I mean he's 651 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: a good pass man. Demontis sabonus on some level, you 652 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: have to agree with me that the triple double has 653 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: kind of sort of been diminished by the way the 654 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: league is. I mean, if you want to say that 655 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's three point numbers are a little fugazi because 656 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: everybody shoots a million threes and who cares? Then how 657 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: are we not diminishing at all triple doubles because everybody 658 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: in their mom's getting him. I mean, Kyle Lowry has 659 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: as many triple doubles as Bill Russell, has more triple 660 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: doubles than Scottie Pippen. Ricky Rubio. Ricky Rubio has seven 661 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: triple doubles. Okay, Pete Merovich had seven in his career. 662 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: Pete Marivitch is incredible, talent, amazing player. Bam out of 663 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: Bio already has five. He's probably gonna end up top 664 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: twenty five triple doubles. Like, It's just it's a weird 665 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: era and I'm not again, I'm not to finishing Russ. 666 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I never thought like Oscar Robertson, 667 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: Like I never thought more of him because he averaged 668 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: a triple double once, did you? I mean, I think 669 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: less of him but I didn't think like, oh, you 670 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: haveage a trouble double that makes him like a top 671 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: ten player all time. I feel like you had to 672 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: think of him in a more positive light because if again, 673 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: if it was that easy, everybody would do it, he 674 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't be done it. I don't have a career trouble 675 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: double um, and I've played a lot of past I 676 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: just don't get rebounds, you know, like Russell Westbrook. And again, 677 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: I know people who were on his high school basketball team, 678 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: we've known him. The guy's just always gone balls to 679 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: the wall. And I respect that totally. I play like 680 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: that as a guard. But I mean, I guess I 681 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: can't really say I do that because I don't go 682 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: for rebounds. I just I just don't. I will hustle 683 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: my ass off, I will run up and down the court. 684 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna like be half assing it. That being said, 685 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: I ain't going for rebounds. I'm not trying to get 686 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: an elbow. I'm not trying to land on an ankle 687 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: and turn. I had one high ankle sprain. Nobody cares 688 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: about this. I had a high ankle sprain and I 689 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: was on crutches and I was out of the mix 690 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: for a month and I was just like crestfallen like it. 691 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't need that. Man, I'm getting old. 692 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: Um Anyways, all right, Rob G, we have a big 693 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: show tomorrow, obviously, the NFL schedule release coming up tonight. 694 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: I'm very fired up. Obviously, you know, the the news 695 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: was kind of out there last night. I'm not, you know, 696 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: doing any spoilers for the NFL schedule, um, but it 697 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like we are going to have many 698 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: games before the schedule is actually released because reporters can't 699 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: help themselves. People have fired up. You know, it's the 700 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: NFL schedule. I've got a show tonight for Fox. We 701 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: are doing, um, the schedule release in NFL over unders 702 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: awesome gambling show. You guys should tune in. It's gonna 703 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: be fun. And um, I'm sure Rob G and I 704 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: are not done this. We agreed too much last week, Rob, 705 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: so now this week would just disagree on everything, right. 706 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of how it goes. Absolutely makes 707 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: for a better show. Alright, guys, we will talk to 708 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.