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Speaker 1: Yes, a lot of people, I think in this business

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Speaker 1: Good, I'm glad you're here. This this person's pissing on

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Speaker 2: but there are better, more constructive ways to say it

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Speaker 1: Hollywood hand Book.

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Speaker 2: Hiper Parabo, and like, I think you should use your

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Speaker 4: I feel that people are disinclined to praise it as

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Speaker 2: It is an amazing movie people.

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Speaker 4: That you made it clear that you separately call it amazing.

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Speaker 2: And so many movies are scared to say how good

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Speaker 1: And I enjoyed this movie that you were in, but

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Speaker 1: I thought it should have been called Saving the Amazing

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Speaker 4: Sure, or the Amazing Saving mister Banks. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 4: No, what did you get from it?

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Speaker 4: I feel that the point of that movie was, you know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, And it's okay to disagree. BJ. We know you

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Speaker 2: were just just pulling pranks in Hollywood Underground prank scene. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: And I would run around screaming and like shooting blood.

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Speaker 4: Well, we did the prank when Hillary Duff wanted her

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Speaker 4: The store, it was an African American owned and themed store.

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Speaker 4: Well, but the store was owned by a white man.

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Speaker 2: It was okay, African American theme store owned by a

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what he's over compensating for what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll be honest. Money, I mean, money is

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? This is what a

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Speaker 4: Right, it says, you know, Sandra Bullock made eighteen million

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Speaker 2: There's nothing fun about nineteen millions.

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Speaker 1: What's the point that really pisses me off? The idea

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Speaker 2: But you just know, but they're true. You just have

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Speaker 4: taxes do I owe on what property? How much of

440
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: my mortgage have I paid off? It's very hard to

441
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: know exactly how much money I have celebrity net worth.

442
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 4: They are a diligent institution. It's a very big team,

443
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 4: and people respect them. That's the important thing. People respect them,

444
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: so people cooperate with them. And that's what I did.

445
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that team over there. And were you

446
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: surprised at all at some of the value some of

447
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: your things? Because I know, for me, I'm just maybe

448
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: bringing home a prop or something, and then they go like, oh,

449
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: this is the freaking boat from Titanic.

450
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, first I tried to do so much.

451
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

452
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the first time they came to my door

453
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: and asked me about my net worth, I wanted to

454
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,959
Speaker 4: answer sort of in the spirit of the way I

455
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: was raised. I said, well, I'm comfortable. I'm doing fine

456
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: right now, thank god.

457
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

458
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: That that obviously did not cut it with them. They

459
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: wanted to know my exact per episode salary on the office.

460
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 4: They wanted to know what my car, how many payments

461
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: I had made on it, what type of insurance. It

462
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 4: was very, very exhaustive and and.

463
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: But it's fun too.

464
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: But it is fun to talk about money, and especially

465
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Speaker 1: your own mind.

466
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 4: Just drives me crazy when people think the celebrity net

467
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: worth is just sort of like a gas Yeah, just

468
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 4: a random speculation designed to encourage people to click, that

469
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: they that they've gained the Google rankings, that the numbers

470
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: are out of thin air, that they're designed to uh,

471
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: to titillate. It makes me very angry because this is

472
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: a major, major operation. They take their dubs very seriously

473
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: and they have an important mission, which is to let

474
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 4: people know how much money they believe famous people have.

475
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: Were you surprised to double back for a second when

476
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: you went to do punked that so many of the

477
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: celebrities fell for the same pranks again that we had

478
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: done on them.

479
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: Well, they fell for variations. We escalated it so we

480
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: no longer did Hillary Duff's learners permit. Now it's time

481
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 4: for her to get her her license. So okay, you know,

482
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 4: I'm laughing just at the memory. It's yeah, Look, celebrities

483
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: are stupid. That's why we love them so much, myself included.

484
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 4: There is some brain matter just missing that enables people

485
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: to pursue public lives without shame, you know.

486
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Speaker 2: Goddamn yeah, yeah, kind of stuff you don't honestly, if

487
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: you read, if you read, if you read, you only

488
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: use you only use half if that, and so part

489
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: of it is just junk and garbage that you don't need.

490
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: What of your brain, your whole brain, really h the front.

491
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: Now, I listened to music while I read, so I

492
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: must be at about sixty seventy.

493
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, you maybe, but and and

494
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: also I think some drugs let you tap into some

495
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,479
Speaker 1: other sides. I don't want to get too crazy, but

496
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: people figure out some stuff.

497
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: Steve Jobs, et cetera.

498
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've I've heard about that.

499
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: BJ. We we saw Spider Man two for you because

500
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: we love you. We wanted to support you. You're great. Thanks,

501
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: And the movie was great, amazing, amazing. Laughed, cried because

502
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: it was so unbelievably scary that you.

503
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 4: Cried from fear. M because there is you know, there

504
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: is some some serious emotion in the movie. But you

505
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 4: cried from fear.

506
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: That stuff doesn't what bother me?

507
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 4: Okay, during the part did you scream?

508
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got underneath.

509
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: I got underneath my seat during the sad parts and

510
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: covered up my eyes and then.

511
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Would peek through and sort of shriek.

512
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: But I do remember crying during the scariness, and I

513
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: just we loved it. But we'd love to get from

514
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: the horse's mouth some of the inside scoop. I guess

515
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: on the story.

516
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: So, because we didn't see the first one, okay, we

517
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: only saw the second one for yees, okay, so we

518
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: sort of need to be caught up.

519
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: And what was your favorite part of this second one?

520
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: First a question, So Spider Man's like a crazy guy.

521
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 4: No, No, he's just jumping.

522
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: Everywhere. He's jumping around. He's He's like, yeah, he's jumping

523
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: bean man.

524
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean he didn't just missed the first movie. You

525
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: missed the entire cultural impact of the concept. Are you

526
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: You're like, what's going on?

527
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: Why? Who is?

528
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: What's? What's a spider?

529
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: All we know is he's a spider and he's not

530
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: even a spider. Well he's you.

531
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: Don't know, that's debatable because we did so you missed

532
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: a lot, like culturally, you didn't absorb.

533
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: You know, here's what we know. We know he knows

534
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: the guy from before or they think they're friends.

535
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah right, m m okay, but it's but is that

536
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: even you know, is that even what's going on with them?

537
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: Well?

538
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: Sure it's not the predominant I I kind of to

539
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: take a number of steps back for you guys, Spider

540
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: Man is a comic book superhero, which we love.

541
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: So you love that. You're an expert from.

542
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say'm an expert. I say I know the

543
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: amount that most people know. I don't think you had

544
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: to have seen this first movie to know that.

545
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: A lot of people did see it. Yeah, you're right

546
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: in saying that most people know it because they saw

547
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: the first one.

548
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: That's not just the first one though, I mean this

549
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: is this idea of Spider Man has been a very

550
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: very famous character in society for fifty years.

551
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: He's like like that figure.

552
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: Thinking back, you guys, we all spend a lot of

553
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: time on Hollywood Boulevard because we work in Hollywood or

554
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: Hollywood people. You know that guy in the red and

555
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: blue suit with the mask on and the spider on

556
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: his chest.

557
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: Garfield, No, you're.

558
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: Confused about the billing of this. Andrew Garfield is the actor.

559
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: Garfield is the orange. You don't know who Garfield is.

560
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: He dresses up.

561
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Andrew Garfield dresses up the same way the guy on

562
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: Hollywood Boulevard in a much cheaper version war this suit

563
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: that aren't you piece together? Now that you've seen well,

564
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 4: there's a difference with Spider Man.

565
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: But it's not the same because that guy, I've seen

566
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: that guy and he is the guy outside is a

567
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: black guy. How do you know? Because I can see

568
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: his hands sometimes sometimes he.

569
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: Takes It's a very good answer. Okay, yeah, yeah.

570
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 2: Speaking on writing, BJ, you wrote a famous book and

571
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: it's on all the big lists these days, and it's

572
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: called One More Thing and it's a book of stories

573
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: and other stories the subtitle of the book, and you

574
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: can buy it anywhere. And this book you had, you

575
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: had an important point to prove with this book, didn't you,

576
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Because you were known mostly for being an acting man

577
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: and for for doing your jokes. But you wanted to

578
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: prove something with this joke contest.

579
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: And tell me what you feel that.

580
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: I proved that the books are easy, so easy.

581
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: And all the newspapers and all the you know, naysayers

582
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: said books are hard and he'll never do it and

583
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: no one will, and then you really showed them a

584
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: thing or two about a good lesson they had.

585
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: You did it well, thank you, I did it.

586
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Thank you.

587
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Uh. I don't know that people were surprised that a

588
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: book was written, which I think you're implying that people

589
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: thought I couldn't be done, No one could do it.

590
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: Oh well, I know one guy who was pretty surprised.

591
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Who is that you?

592
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: It's Hayes. I mean it is scream.

593
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: You screamed in a way that you didn't that spider man.

594
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: No.

595
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Very similarly, you didn't cry from fear. Though I said

596
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: I cried, I didn't say I didn't also scream.

597
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true.

598
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't so surprised that a book had been written

599
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: as much as it was printed and could be bought

600
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: to be read.

601
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: No, I see, I find just too. I find that

602
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: on surprising as well. Hm, you might because I.

603
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Would think if you write a book, you might want

604
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: to keep it a secret.

605
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: I like to think that maybe you were surprised by

606
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: how good it was, how funny it was, the fact

607
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: that a book was published at all, a book. I

608
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: I have to disagree with you. I think that there's

609
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: a whole book business. There's they think of bookstores, right,

610
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: you know what a bookstore is. How there's a whole

611
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: business model based on the fact that books are published.

612
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: So if you think of it that way, it would

613
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: be weirder if no books were published, because then you

614
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: go into Barnes and Noble. What's there?

615
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: But oh, they sell their Yeah, they sell old books

616
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: and then new books are like, aren't really books count

617
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: as books? They opende, but they're not really the same

618
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: as books.

619
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: And and maybe they also would have one of your

620
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: Spider Man stuff like that you were talking about.

621
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: You have an interesting relationship with plurals. This is the

622
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: second time. Yeah, No, they might sell U. Yeah, my

623
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: Spider Man stuff with one of them, Yes, with the

624
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: two guys, Yeah, who think they're friends.

625
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: How long does it take you to write one of

626
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: those stories of yours?

627
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: Well, some of them can take me weeks. Some of

628
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: them could just come fully formed in a moment.

629
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: Someone gives it to you. You could just one.

630
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 4: No, No, I need to be very clear. No one

631
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: gives me these stories. I feel inspired, and I give

632
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: myself the story. In the case that I'm describing.

633
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: You could just do one whenever you could do it. No,

634
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: not whenever, Sam, just get out your keyboard, Sam, could

635
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: you get your keyboard out please? Yeah?

636
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: And then so I think that, because, as you said,

637
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: stories are so easy that you almost could just do them. Okay,

638
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: we may want to hear just sort of do what

639
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: story and show America or whoever else you know what

640
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: it really means. And it doesn't have to be a

641
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: story about Spider Man just because we you know, been

642
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: talking about that, but it might help because.

643
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: It's in the zetygeist right now. It would sell, Yeah,

644
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: it would pretty famous.

645
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: Okay, so you want us and you're using very vague words.

646
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: So I want to try to nail down what we're

647
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 4: doing here. We are going to write a story, not

648
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: do a story.

649
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: Right, Well, we don't need to touch the keyboard. Sam's goal.

650
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: Sam is going to write the story.

651
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 4: We're going to We're going to compose a story. Sam

652
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: is going to type it for us. It might be

653
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 4: about Spider Man.

654
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

655
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be, and that could be helpful.

656
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: And the purpose of this is to demonstrate how easy

657
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: it is to write a.

658
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Story because people don't know. They don't usually hear it

659
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: when it happens.

660
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: That's very true.

661
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: Well, and if you're writing one fully formed and you're

662
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Speaker 1: doing it alone, think about the three of us back

663
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: collaborating like the old days when we were pulling over

664
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Speaker 1: Little Bow.

665
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: Wow.

666
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, we were graffitiing Wilmur's car, which he was

667
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: so prideful of.

668
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: That's right, we escalated everything on the actual show. Okay, Well,

669
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 4: who'd like to start us off?

670
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: Well, you're the guy with the pen, golden penka.

671
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: Well I'll start with the title. We'll go around Spider

672
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: Man and the Case of the Music Box Hostage Crisis.

673
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: Quick, pitch the amazing, the amazing spider I love that.

674
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Let's go with the case. Okay, yes, and the in

675
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: the case of the music Box Hostage Crisis.

676
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.

677
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

678
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: Now, remember it's a case. So this is this is

679
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: a detective angle for Spider Man, who is normally, normally

680
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 4: just about the action. Normally, there's no there's no sort

681
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: of investigation aspect. He's just more of a batman thing.

682
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: Spider Man knows what's up.

683
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: And then he's just jumping does his job.

684
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 4: Jumps into action. There's no legal review generally as part

685
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: of Spider Man's.

686
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: Pros, he's flipping.

687
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. So in this story, you know he saw the

688
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: music box hostage crisis and so you know it's a case.

689
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: It needs to be soft.

690
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. Spider Man looked at the footprint. He could

691
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: tell the man was in trouble. Trouble with the cops.

692
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: He sniffed a little bit of the ground and he

693
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: held his ear to it because of his Indian past,

694
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: and he heard the whole story, which was the don't write,

695
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: which was Sam, no I think? Which was Sam, did

696
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: you get that new paragrah? Did you get that? Which

697
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: was this argument is part of it.

698
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: See, this is what's called the surprise.

699
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: An argument we are You'll know, Sam, You'll know when

700
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: it's an argument.

701
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: This great, this kind of Now, this is what I'm

702
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: saying now is side commentary. This is great. This is

703
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 4: great storytelling because there's a structural surprise. The reader thinks

704
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: the story is gonna unfold naturally. Instead we are going

705
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: to explain exactly what happened on the surface right now.

706
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So which was which was? Yeah?

707
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: The one guy's foot, you know, hurt so much, so

708
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: he just smashed it on the ground.

709
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 4: Great.

710
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: And he also didn't know why that other This is great.

711
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: The guy we're learning about Spider Man. Yeah, in her monologue,

712
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: it's very choppy.

713
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that other guy was like me, well, you know what,

714
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: why is he chasing him? And so he and so

715
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: oh really hot hot Mama Kate walked in too, and

716
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: Spider Man had to look at that. Sure, oh yes,

717
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: And and then she starts talking to him.

718
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: That's great and I and well, now I want to

719
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: know what she said.

720
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: Mmmm, yeah, what she said or what he said.

721
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: She started talking to him in the story to.

722
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: Spider Man, well, she said cut the well just she said, Colin,

723
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: it's cleaner. There are forty eight hostages inside the world's

724
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: largest music box if you crank the music box, which

725
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: was built for the World's Fair as an entrance to

726
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 4: the Guinness Book of World Records World's largest music box,

727
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: which was meant to attract attention to the beleaguered city

728
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 4: of Sioux Falls. That's spelled s U E f A

729
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: l s. And the reason it's beleaguered, this is a footnote. Now,

730
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: the reason it's be leaguered is because people never go

731
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: to it. They just go to Siue Falls si o

732
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Speaker 4: u X.

733
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Well, and didn't this one get its name because there

734
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: were so many frivolous lawsuits.

735
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: No, this is this is a woman named Sue who

736
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: fell and it was in the town just falls over

737
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: the town's claim to fame. And this might be a

738
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: separate story that we write. At some point she turned

739
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: out to vertigo.

740
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: Huh.

741
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 4: Say more on this in a later story in the collection.

742
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: So this we don't have to read it back, but

743
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: just pick it up from where we're describing that the

744
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: world's largest music box is being built for the World's

745
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: Fair and Sioux Falls, Ohio. And if you crank it

746
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: from the side, this box would play. Now here's where

747
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: you holp me give me a song.

748
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: This club.

749
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love in this club and I'd say which version,

750
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: but it's just the music, which is I think is

751
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: the same for the radio edit. And but they never

752
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: expected hostages to be inside. So the woman explains this

753
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 4: and Spider Man, Oh, you know who else is in there?

754
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Gwen Stacy ah from the show from No Doubt, Yeah,

755
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: and Gwen Stefani.

756
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's let's make it a little more contemporary.

757
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: There are two people in there, Gwen Stefani, and then

758
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 4: in parentheses, Spider Man raised an eyebrow, almost imperceptibly. He

759
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 4: was impressed but not blown away, and Gwen Stacy Spider

760
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: Man's eyes popped open. Now it was personal.

761
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: Don't write this part, but that is how you should

762
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: react to Gwen Stefan. If you show too much, you.

763
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: Don't wanna you don't want to share weird, you'll walk

764
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: all over you because often, often Gwen Stefani is prelude

765
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: to a bigger celebrity with guests including Gwen Stefani, it's

766
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 4: often about to get bigger. So don't blow your wide

767
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: Gwenn's no, just like okay, who else you might get

768
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: a bigger name. You might get Sandy Bullock so obsessed

769
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: with her, you know so, now so and then Itali

770
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: size Now it was personal. Okay, so she's in the

771
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: music box. Okay, this is getting good.

772
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Sam, Well, spider Man said.

773
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: Some more conversational story narrative voice.

774
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: This is macarthy esque, and there are no quotation marks, Sam,

775
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: God help you if there are any quotation marks in

776
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: this story, Well said spider Man. Time to go that

777
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: He put his hand out and out of his freaking

778
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: head came a web.

779
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: See again. I feel this is commentary. I feel that

780
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 4: your lack of exposure to the Spider Man mythology puts

781
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: you out of step with most of your audience.

782
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: Refreshing Huh, how can you say that I don't know

783
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: and I haven't been exposed to Spider Man. I just

784
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: told you exactly what he does.

785
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: The fact that the narrator would express so much amazing

786
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 4: that a web came forth from his hand is it.

787
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Makes me you don't know you were in the movie.

788
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: It makes me the you don't know what he does

789
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: exactly the thing that happens.

790
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: That narrator shouldn't express amazement called amazing, Spider Man.

791
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: But the narrator you.

792
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: Take for granted he's amazing, is out of his The

793
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: word friggin' that really to me tipped that you were

794
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: not as used to this happening as most people.

795
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: Sam, Can you just read back what we have? I

796
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: got where I'm lost? Sure, Spider Man. In the case

797
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: of the music music books, wait wait, I feel like

798
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: you said you You said you read to music.

799
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: I write to music, read music.

800
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: Okay, one second ready, yeah. Spider Man looked at the

801
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: foot wait wait, wait, wait, oh sorry, why is my

802
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: sound not going.

803
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I gotta keep the hood.

804
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: Spider Man looked at the foot bread. He could tell

805
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: the man was in trouble, trouble with the cops.

806
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: See, he snipped a little of the ground and because

807
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: of his Indian past, knew the whole story, which was

808
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: the one guy's foot you know, hurt so much, so

809
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 3: he smashed it on the ground and he didn't know why.

810
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: The other guy was answer why is he chasing him?

811
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: And a really hot mama cave walked in so we

812
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: had to look at it, and he was like, ooh, yes,

813
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: so she looked at him cut the well, oh, that's

814
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: a note for me. There are forty eight hostages inside

815
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: the world's largest music box, which was built for the

816
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: World's Fair for the Guinness Records.

817
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: No spelled suit balls a suit more on the later collection.

818
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 3: If you crank it from the outside of the box

819
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: would play Love in this club.

820
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter which version for the radio.

821
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: They never expected hostages to be inside. You know who

822
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: else is in there, Gwen Stacy's from the show and

823
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: Gwen Stefani, which is often followed by bigger celebrities. When

824
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: being announced, Spiderman raised in hybro Now it's personal in

825
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: it in italics. Well, Spider Man said, in a McCarthy

826
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: esque way, it's time to go out of his friggin hand,

827
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: came a web.

828
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just get it.

829
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: I think it's really good.

830
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: I think it's good.

831
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: I think the footprint turned out to be the key

832
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: to the music box or something.

833
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: But anyway, really that was easy, and now everyone knows.

834
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: Let's do a segment that we love. How do we

835
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: how do we how? How how how do we get

836
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: into this? Okay, we'll break this down for you really quickly.

837
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: We have a segment that we do on the show

838
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: and it is uh, heyes, help me out.

839
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: Popcorn. It's hot, it's buttery, it's food. It's food for sure.

840
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: Where do you eat it? The movies? At the movies?

841
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: Thank you? People have questions about the movies and movie

842
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: men and women, Yes, thank you. Finally you were in

843
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: the movie. People have questions for you. People who have

844
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: questions as a group are called the peanut gallery. Sometimes

845
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: they don't have peanuts at the movies.

846
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: They don't have to be asking questions of the peanut gallery.

847
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: They could just be criticizing. But sometimes sometimes they're giving

848
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: the old Bronx cheer.

849
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 4: Is this still backstory of the segment or is this

850
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: the segment?

851
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: This is how This is the only way you're going

852
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: to be able to handle the segment is if you

853
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: get what is And it's not easy to describe. Now,

854
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the situation.

855
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: So we don't want to call this the peanut Gallery,

856
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: even though we have questions from the public because it's

857
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: about movies and you need to use a movie, a

858
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: movie women like Sandra Bullock or whoever.

859
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: So, what was that movie food from before?

860
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: Popcorn?

861
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: Popcorn? The name of the segment is the popcorn Gallery.

862
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: It's not gonna it's not gonna work. Yeah, here's a question.

863
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: Let's reach into the popcorn bag with a question from

864
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: one of.

865
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: Our lists future podcasts. I didn't need that backstory. It

866
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: was perfectly pleasant, but I think I get this without

867
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: without all that.

868
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because we've done it. Yeah, and you

869
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: have a reputation. This is smart. Yeah writing man, thank

870
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: you for sure. Here's a question in the bag.

871
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, popcorn.

872
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: This question is from Octor doctorpus BJ. Would you ever

873
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: consider writing an episode of The Americans? I would not

874
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: consider it.

875
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: I think that is better in the hands of people

876
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 4: who understand that show from watching it, from working on it.

877
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: I'd be coming to a cold hm hmm, little feud

878
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 4: starting here.

879
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: You don't like that show?

880
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen it. I hear that it's great.

881
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: Actually, you don't like hearing things that are great and

882
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: the anticipating in them. You prefer to discover stuff for

883
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: yourself with that, so you can tell people to take

884
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: a recommend.

885
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: I love Americans, and I like that these are specific Americans.

886
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 2: That's well, I don't want to spoil the show for you.

887
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 4: No, I know that that they might not be Americans

888
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: in a way. Look, I hear, I hear that it's great.

889
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. If I wrote it, people would

890
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: be baffled by what was going on because I'd be

891
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: inventing a whole different show.

892
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: Too. Edgy, here's a question. It's in the bag again.

893
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 4: Cool, this is a big piece.

894
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: Gets a freaking bomb. This question is from Valerie Bryant Beach.

895
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: When you created the hashtag hashtag long Hair, Don't Care,

896
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: did you think it would make you an overnight celebrity

897
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: or was it a happy accident.

898
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: That was Chiney's idea, my friend Chingy, and it was

899
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: to become an overnight celebrity. The irony is it took

900
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: me years to come up with that hashtag.

901
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 2: So you know, people that how this town works just sometimes.

902
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I became an overnight celebrity after years of

903
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: hashtags that just didn't connect, and then that one did.

904
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 4: It wasn't even my favorite hashtag.

905
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: What were some of those hashtags that you thought would

906
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: do it for you that didn't.

907
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: I thought I thought booty Riffic was gonna hit. This

908
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: is before Booty Delicious was a thing. I thought booty riffic.

909
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 4: So I tagged a lot of things booty riffic.

910
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: It just didn't take. It didn't take because I still

911
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: now we're ready for it. I feel late. Yeah, we

912
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: missed the window home.

913
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, orange is the new Yellow. Yeah, it was a hashtag.

914
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: It was too subtle.

915
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: I guess they're very close. It made more sense, arguably

916
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: than the New Black.

917
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 4: I thought it was a more subtle way to go

918
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: because you could argue that orange and yellow, what is

919
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: the line? What has been this whole time? Maybe it's

920
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: always been the same thing, But orange is the new black? Okay,

921
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: well agree to disagree. Yeah yeah, now this is after that,

922
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: after the book Orange is the New Black. So I

923
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: was riffing on something. M this was not just me.

924
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

925
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know these hashtags did not take off?

926
00:51:51,840 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 2: They did learned. Yeah, well there's there's one more question. Wow,

927
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: something bit me, spider, I feel strange.

928
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's crazy guy jumping around everywhere. I guess

929
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: I know this guy or something.

930
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 4: See uh, I gotta say. The sound effects to these

931
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: are are.

932
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 2: This is Sean cobstracting Sean's friend from uh from high school. Yeah,

933
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: we're trying to help him out, you know, like he

934
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: was the funny guy in school. Wasn't the funny guy? Really?

935
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 4: What were you?

936
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Uh? Here's the guy watching the funny guy, the guy

937
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: in the back of the class, just observing and picking stuff.

938
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: That funny guy's audience.

939
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: Well, and I knew how funny he was too, you know,

940
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: because I was friends with him.

941
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: And so he now.

942
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Has had some bad breaks. He's pushing dumpsters into each

943
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: other for a living.

944
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 4: So wow, And how how does that generate revenue for someone?

945
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: Well that's part of why we gave him this gig

946
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: to do our sound drops, right.

947
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: I think they're so good that they sometimes distract from

948
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: the question that follows, because you want to know about

949
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 4: this bomb?

950
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 2: What happened to that? I'll pass that along to Mark.

951
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: His question is from bird Rules BJ. Do you think

952
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: John Candy is funny?

953
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: Was funny but.

954
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: He's not so funny anymore. Huh.

955
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: Right, But this is just correcting the semantics.

956
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: This is not.

957
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 4: Ultimatum on whether or not John Candy was funny.

958
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: His stuff hasn't aged well.

959
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's it's really about whether or not

960
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: we use the present or past tense for someone deceased.

961
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: Because the movies you can watch them, you can still

962
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: watch them. Yeah, no, I know, yeah, they're they're streaming.

963
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: It's okay if you didn't.

964
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: Know, I think John Candy, it.

965
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Makes me think you didn't know because you said was

966
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: and and like you couldn't. We've run into stuff like

967
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: this on the show before, right to fine, and it's

968
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: for other people to shake with you.

969
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 4: Was if you said Shakespeare is funny, I wouldn't say

970
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 4: it was funny. I just think of him his body

971
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: of work, which is immortal.

972
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: Well, he is also dead.

973
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah right, And I wouldn't have I wouldn't have correct.

974
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 4: But you can think Shakespeare is funny. I wouldn't say

975
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: Shakespeare has been dead for hundreds of years.

976
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: Huh.

977
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: I'd say yeah, no, he's his comedies are funny.

978
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: Something. You do think he's funny?

979
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think he's funny.

980
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: Because you know you can still read his stuff. But

981
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't know you could still watch.

982
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: No I did.

983
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. And this happens last week. He didn't

984
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: know the difference between a holding deal and offer.

985
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Only on the show, and and and well he did.

986
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: Some people make a mistake when they're a few of

987
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: those things.

988
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, well you're not. I can't actually help you with that.

989
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: I can't help you. I didn't And it was a

990
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: miss mortify honestly, whatever the it's such a visceral. What's

991
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: the funniest Shakespeare?

992
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 4: The funniest Shakespeare? Hmm, Well, I think Shakespeare is funny.

993
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 4: He has funny lines and moments spread throughout the plays.

994
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't call any of his plays speak now overall

995
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 4: speak on that. Well, I'm not here to, you know,

996
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: be competitive with Shakespeare and kind of.

997
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: You think you're funnier.

998
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: I think I am funnier than Shakespeare in twenty fourteen,

999
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: I do, I do, I agree, Yeah.

1000
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, his stuff doesn't really crack my whole shit up.

1001
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: We're big fans, yeah, EJ. We're big fans and we're

1002
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: pulling for you.

1003
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: Well, thank you. It's great to finally reconnect after all

1004
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 4: this time. Yes, we started together and we'll probably go

1005
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: out together.

1006
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: That's I hope. So well, we're a good deal older

1007
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: than you.

1008
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: Do you guys have any Do you want to end

1009
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: with some advice to people? I mean, this is Hollywood Handbook.

1010
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: We would love for you to give some advice.

1011
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: I think we should all give advice.

1012
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds good.

1013
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: You know one tip you wish you had when you

1014
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: were starting out?

1015
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: Directed sort of to engineer Sam, who is sort of

1016
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: a proxy for our audience from uh fucking Indiana or

1017
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: something Milwaukee, I would.

1018
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: Hope yeah, overdress, m dress, Over dress is my advice.

1019
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: Dress for the weather you want.

1020
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 4: I don't mean that in terms of warmth, but that

1021
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 4: is a very interesting approach. Dress for the weather you want.

1022
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: I'd say, overdress, you'll be that guy in a good way.

1023
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's good.

1024
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: Who is that guy? Why is he wearing all that

1025
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: in so many layers? Yeah, so many layers and it's

1026
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: so hot. Yeah. What it's your advice?

1027
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: Mine? Mine would be get all dressed up? Oh yeah, yes, okay,

1028
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: we see things similarly. Just put on a lot of

1029
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: good clothes. Yeah, that's what I would say. What would

1030
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: your speechen.

1031
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 4: Wear it, baby, that's awesome. Well, you know we came

1032
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: up together and we saw the same people we saw

1033
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: Pelf Tompkins, you know, ride through the ranks. Oh yes,

1034
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: while we saw the guy we all called Charlie.

1035
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: That happen.

1036
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't see it either, I know, just and you'll

1037
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: look up one day and if I had to wager

1038
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: on one guy from our initial crew, Charlie's face, Charlie

1039
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: would have succeeded.

1040
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: Charlie and Paul F. Tompkins not. But you know they

1041
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: dressed one dress for success and one dressed for failure.

1042
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: He really wore it, baby. Yeah.

1043
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1044
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Grate us on iTunes, talk to us on the forums,

1045
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: please like us on Facebook. And by the pro version

1046
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: of our podcast, you can a lot of get a

1047
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: lot of great advice like that.

1048
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: And my email is bj Novak at yahoo dot com.

1049
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, email Bj and you can get more advice. And

1050
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: when you buy the pro version, you get as a

1051
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: prize at Han Lads bought the pro version this week

1052
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: and his prize that is that BJ Novak will name

1053
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: his next book after you. And so what's the title

1054
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: going to be for han Lads.

1055
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Well, it may be abstract. You know, I'm not going

1056
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: to give it away now because everyone will be on

1057
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: Amazon trying to pre order it, crash the site.

1058
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Well you don't get it, han, lads, you don't get

1059
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: it after all, But the money's gone.

1060
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: Okay, bye bye.

1061
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: This has been an Earwolf Media production, Executive producers Jeff

1062
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: Ulrick and Scott Ackerman.

1063
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Speaker 2: For more information, visit earwolf dot com, ear War Radio

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