1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Over the time time to the touchdowns downs, touchdown again 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: on the pocket flushed out Chase fires the touchdown to 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: change some of the votes to Sunday to get techs 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: at home, pull the touchdown. It was that kind of 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: night for the Cincinnati Bengals. Andy Dalton working as a 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: lead blocker for Mohammed Sanu on a twenty five yard 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: reverse that was part of the seventeen point second half 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: thirty one to ten victory for the Cincinnati Bengals. They 9 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: made it look pretty easy in the second half. Chris Wesseling, 10 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm here with you. We're gonna get to Dan Hansas 11 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler in preview all the Week nine games 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in a little bit, what what were your takeaways after 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: watching Johnny Manzel in prime time. This is a game 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: at halftime, As Mike Petton said going into the half, 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: it should have been ten to ten if not for 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Randy Stark's off side penalty which turned a field goal 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: into a touchdown for the Bengals, but then turned actually 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: uh loss on downs into a touchdown because Dalton one 19 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: hop that pass the age again, You're right, that was 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: a huge turning point in the game. But then the 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Bengals simply outclassed the Browns in the second half. They 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: just have much better personnel and the better quarterback by 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: quite a bit. Browns managed just one first down in 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: the entire second half. The Bengals are so good, and 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't think people I think people understand that, but 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: you just hear, well, you know, they haven't done in 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're always good in the regular season. Well 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: that's true on some level, but they're never this good 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: in the regular season. I think this is by far 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the best team of the Andy Dalton era, and I 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: believe it's the best team of the Marvin Lewis there. 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I would take even over the a f C. North. Yeah, 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I would take it over that team because it's so complete. 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: It can run the ball. They had over a hundred 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: and fifty yards running on a night where Jeremy Hill 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: didn't do much. I don't think they needed Andy Dalton 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: to play outstanding even tonight for him to have big numbers. 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: And they have a very good defense. They're taking care 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: of business, beating bad teams like the Bills, for instance, 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: or the Ravens Chiefs. I mean, they're it's not they're 41 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: not close games for the most part. Yeah, they're they're 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: just stacked. And you know, CBS or NFL network, whoever 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: is running these games, had that staff for most homegrown players, 44 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: and the Packers and Rams are the only two teams. 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to credit Marvin Lewis and their 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: personnel director Duke Tobin for that and for as well 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: as they've done on offense this year. If you're a 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Bengals fan, sorry, but Hugh Jackson is gonna be a 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: head coach somewhere next year. Oh that's a good point 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be so many openings in the way 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: they're playing. He was really one step ahead of Mike 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Petton all night. And that's what I mean about Andy 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Dalton didn't need to play that well. I would say 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: this was, you know, a mid level Andy Dalton game 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: this year, if not, you know, lower than that, just 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: because they didn't need him to do much. He only 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: threw the ball down the field I think twice the 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: whole game. One was a play they could have gotten 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: a p I, another was the touchdown to effort, and 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: other than that, he's just throwing easy short passes and 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: they're getting their receivers open and they're making it pretty 62 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: simple for him. Well, the difference, you know, people credit 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: him for the confidence, fourth quarter success and going down 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: the field this year. Those are all true, but the 65 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: biggest difference is just he didn't have Tyler Eiffort, Marvin 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Jones and A J Green in the playoffs last year, 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: none of those three. And he didn't have Jones and 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Effort at all really during the season and Effort. We 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: said it going into this game, I said, he's I 70 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: think he's the second best tight end in the league 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: right now, and he's certainly a big red zone factor. Yeah, 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't nobody's playing better in the red zone outside 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: of Gronk, I would think, I mean his catch radius 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: and you know he has that my ball mentality too. 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: It's just amazing. He's strong, and they really exposed Cleveland secondary, 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: which is short on personnel. I mean, Truman Williams got 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: shaped out of his shoes on that Effort touchdown. And 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: in the second half, it was twelve first downs to 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: none for the Browns until Johnny Manzel got a couple 80 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: in garbage time. Let's talk a little Manzel. This game 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: at halftime was fun, it was interesting. Johnny Manziel had 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: just come off what I would say was the best 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: drive of his NFL career. I think it was ninety 84 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: two yards, made a bunch of players outside the pockets, 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten. People are getting excited. You were getting 86 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: excited about one of the heaters seat through. You were 87 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: starting to get a little Johnny fever. That touchdown throw 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: on the run. You know, that was a fastball. That 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: was a p as I said downstairs. But he didn't 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: do anything after that that gets you excited. He he 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: does play that sand lot style. That's fun. But inside 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: the pocket. Phil Sims kept pointing out with how many 93 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: reads he was missing and that that was basically what 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: doom them in the second half. They had to be 95 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: fair at least four or five drops. His numbers fifteen 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: thirty three, one sixty eight would look better if not 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: for those drops. But you make a good point that 98 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: all the success is coming outside the pocket. And Mike 99 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Patton said at halftime it was interesting, Well he got 100 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: to start making some plays in the pocket, like that's 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: the type of quarterback they want, which is a weird 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: it's a weird thing to say when that's maybe not 103 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Manzel's best strength, and yet that's what they want out 104 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: of him, and I think you can read between the 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: lines about where they're gonna go at the quarterback position 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: moving forward. Yeah, Josh McCown's expected to be back next week, 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: and I would have to imagine he's running that offense 108 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: so much better than Manzell. Wasn't embarrassing, but he was fine. 109 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: But but Account's actually they've been frisky on offense. I 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: think they should play Manzel. But you're right, I think 111 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: the defense has been the problem. I think the pressure 112 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: on Mike Patton's gonna pick up. People are gonna start 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: talking about that. He's two and twelve now after starting 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: last year seven and four. In his defense has not 115 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: really done anything all year, and they didn't look good tonight. 116 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Even if you turn back to m account for two 117 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: or three games, you still have a six game sample 118 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: size or a five game sample size in December to 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: play man what you have, And I think that's what 120 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: they'll do. They are two and seven now. The Bengals 121 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: are rolling along at eight and O. That race for 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the buy is going to be intense in the a 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: f C could be the best we've ever seen. Yeah, 124 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: and the Broncos play both of those teams. The Patriots 125 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: and Bengals do not play, but the Broncos play both 126 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: of those teams in the second half, so that'll be good. 127 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: Let's look forward to some of the good games of 128 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Week nine. I will throw it over to Dan Hansis 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys Around the NFL Podcast, 130 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: so Cal's number one Delaware tribute band. Welcome back to 131 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name 132 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis and I am joined Biram Felton Heroes, 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Mark Sesler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosa. What's up boys? 134 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Thursday preview show. You just heard great job. 135 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: By the way, I haven't heard it yet, but Wes 136 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: and Greg they have a eight team. Let's face it 137 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: broke down Cincinnati, Cleveland. Um, Mark uh. In the future, 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna be happy or upset. 139 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I have a prediction. But they all, Um, 140 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: that's what you heard at the top of the show, 141 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the Thursday night show. I have to my media it left. 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: You know. It's always good when you get a real 143 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: broadcaster in here. Here he is NFL Networks Andre Aciliano. 144 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: At the top of the show, what's up Andrew? Three 145 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: things number one while you're yelling at me too if 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: they're the A team is Rosenthal ba Barrakus and number three? 147 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Number three? Wow? Do we have to bleep you like 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: this is the jessel Nick podcast there with what you 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: just said. Maybe with jessel Nick on the scene, now 150 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: I find it necessary to make things a little more 151 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: raw to attract that demographic. Maybe it's me being threatened. 152 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing that up, though Andrew Dan would 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: never have allowed it. But now all our listeners a 154 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: couple of cents that they thought we were joking that 155 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: I had another telogy. What this jessel Nick Rosenthal podcast 156 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: is real? Now? I didn't hear the first two. I 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: listened to the majority of the third last night. Rosenhal 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: has clearly been cheating on you, Andrew the completest, however, 159 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: cross promotion um has jessell Nick done his Dank Cook 160 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: impression yet? No? God, that's a good one. Maybe maybe 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: it's more visual with the whole fish thing, but we 162 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: should you should, guys should get into that well away 163 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: since you did bring it up Andrew before we Andrews 164 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, because obviously have big 165 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: lines news. So instead of typically digging into a few games, 166 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about what happened in Detroit on Thursday morning. 167 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: But I will ask you, Andrew, since you brought it up. 168 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, you know, I am fiercely protective of this 169 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: brand around the NFL podcast and Uh, I view I 170 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: view all other podcasts, whether they're on this digital platform 171 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: or others, uh to be competitors. Is this man on 172 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: my right? Uh? An ally or an enemy? You're you're feelings? 173 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Why why is he competing with you? Exactly? Just don't 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: get it. Does the Michael Robinson, Nate Burlison that that 175 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: is they do one right? Is that I don't do 176 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: that at a competitor? Not yet according to the numbers. 177 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: What about the Daniel? What about the Move the Sticks podcast? 178 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Dan views those all his enemies. Really are you gonna 179 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: like Cap Jeremiah? But well, here's just asking to play 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: a pickup basketball. I view it as like there's a 181 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: million podcasts out there and that they're all competitors. Fresh 182 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Air as a competitor, and people are gonna listen to 183 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and find out what they what they want to listen to. 184 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Greg can lose. Basically, that's what 185 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: he's telling you mean, if you really want to take 186 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: these guys on, I will go get Michael Robinson and 187 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: you two can meet in the parking lot. Well, that's 188 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: not the battle that I want to fight, all right. 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: So you're saying Greg not a trader. I don't. I 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: don't think he's a trader. Okay, I'm not saying he 191 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: is crowdsourcing a little bit. You're just raising the question. 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I think it would have been both podcasts. It would 193 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: have been funny if Dan, Mark and I all went 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: as turtle for Halloween or fromage, if you actually had 195 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: Jerry Ferrara here on the show, which I'm sure he'd 196 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: be happy to do it. I'm sure he would be. Um. 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: All right, enough of all that. Let's let's get into 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about today. We have all the 199 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: week not hold Man week nine already. Mark, you're us 200 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: realizing now it's week nine, But to think of it 201 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: that we're now halfway through is pretty wild. Mark. You 202 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: like to say, this is not the halfway point, not 203 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: even close. That's how I feel thinking. But so we'll 204 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: get into all of those games. But first, yes, as 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: I said with Andrew. Here, let's talk about at the 206 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions hit the reset button on the franchise on 207 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: some level. On Thursday morning, the team fired general manager 208 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Martin Mayhew and team president UH Tom Luand this was 209 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: a decision made from what we understand, by Martha Ford, 210 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: who is now the um acting owner of the team. UH. 211 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Ford also had a very brief press conference where she 212 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: read a statement and announced that Sheldon White UH, the 213 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: team's vice president of pro Personnel, takes over as the 214 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: interim GM. Alison Mackie Does that he pronounce it? Yes? 215 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: M A K. I thank you, was the team's new CEO. 216 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: And guess what uh Jim Caldwell still employed for the 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: time being. UH, but we would imagine not for long. Angela, 218 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this. You just did three 219 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: hours and around the NFL the TV show on NFL Network. 220 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: Your immediate takeaways when you heard the news. I don't 221 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: know what they or what purpose is served by firing 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: a coach into GM now because there I'm not a coach. 223 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, GM at a team president now because there's 224 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: only so much they can do. I think the second 225 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: half of the season. I also don't know how much 226 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: use there is firing a head coach now, but I 227 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: do think it speaks to what the Lions need. And 228 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that both either of these guys deserve 229 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: to be fired or two bad jobs. But you know, 230 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: if you go and you listen to Lions fans, if 231 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: you spend a day in Detroit. Not that fans run franchises, 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: nor should they, their opinions do matter. However, the disenchantment 233 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: with what has happened with that team this year is 234 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: overwhelming and it's toxic really in that town right now 235 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: to think you want to play damage chick And if 236 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: l where would we be today? If not for the 237 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: past interference not pass interference call in Dallas in the playoffs, 238 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: they could have would have should have beaten the Cowboys. 239 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Think about it, Jason Garrett might have been fired. The 240 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys might look different right now. The Lions would have 241 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: won a playoff game, and who knows what they could 242 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: have done, and then who knows what would have happened afterwards. 243 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: They were eleven and five a year ago. Now if 244 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: they had won that playoff game, if they had gotten 245 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: that call, would they not be one in seven? Would 246 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Sue have not left. I don't know. I can't answer 247 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: those questions, but to think how close they were to 248 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: writing a vastly different story. But I think a couple 249 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: of things standout. Number One, only Stafford and Sue have 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: gone to the Pro Bowl. Of the players drafted by 251 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Martin Mayhew two thousand, ten and eleven, none of those 252 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: players are still on the roster from those two drafts. 253 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Um they just have gaping holes and they haven't received 254 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: returns on the people they did draft. And I also think, 255 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, Ian Rappaport talked about this a lot today 256 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: on our show. You have to wonder aloud about the 257 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: future Matthew Stafford. He has seventeen million of the books 258 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: next year not guaranteed, sixteen and a half the year 259 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: after that not guaranteed. Ian suggested they may just cut him. 260 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I find that hard to believe. I think a guy 261 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: that through for five thousand yards and forty one touchdown 262 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: it's a couple of years ago, has to have some 263 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: value before he turns thirty. But they may not only 264 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: wipe the entire front office clean, they may wipe everything clean, 265 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: and that at this point wouldn't be surprising. I think 266 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: we would be surprised if Jim called Well was the 267 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: coach there. Next year, when you bring in a new 268 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: general manager, he's gonna want to hire his new coach. 269 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: And if they don't, to me, that's maybe even a 270 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: bigger red flag. You've seen it in Cleveland when you 271 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: do it one at a time. Okay, now he inherits 272 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a coach. You often waste a year with Jim called Well. 273 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: The forward ownership in Detroit. You want to get Lions 274 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: fans talking, asked them about how they view the ownership 275 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: situation for the Lions over the last oh seventy years 276 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: or so. In Eerie, Martin Mayhew, by results, did a 277 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: fairly good job. He came in for an o N 278 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: sixteen team and they went to the playoffs twice in 279 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: the last six or seven years in Detroit. That's considered success. 280 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's really much of a case 281 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: to be made looking at the roster that he needs 282 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: to stay around. Well, look, Martin Mia who created this mess, 283 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: and Tom Lawan when they started giving these huge salary 284 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: cap numbers too, and Dominan Sue, Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson. 285 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: And once you lose sue. The rest of the roster 286 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: just doesn't look good, especially when DeAndre Levi played what 287 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: three snaps all year. They they got caught a little 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: bit in that old collective bargaining agreement that all those 289 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: three picks were in that old one where the rookies 290 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: got paid a ton and they all turned out to 291 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: be stars, and then their salary has to go up 292 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: from there. So they got stuck it really through their fault, 293 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: no fault to their own because all three of those picks, 294 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: even Stafford, I don't think was a bad pick at 295 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: number one if you get it, okay, franchise corps, but 296 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: how much how all the time we talked about on 297 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: this podcast, how the salary cap, Yeah, teams faced, but 298 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: there should be ways always be able to sign the 299 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: guys that are key guys. They should be held to 300 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the same standard we hold everyone else. I mean, to me, 301 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: the big question now is calledwell to me, is the 302 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: lame is stuck ever? Right? And the Stafford like we're 303 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: talking about, that's the biggest question, because what happens if 304 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: you let Stafford go and he gets taken in by 305 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: a different coaching staff and becomes that forty one touchdown 306 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: guy again, and then you're stuck with a rookie you're 307 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: trying to develop, and you let a guy go out 308 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: the door. I think two things. And Daniel Jeremiah tweeted 309 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: this this week and he made a great point. He said, 310 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the list of potential coaching vacancies and I count between 311 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: ten and twelve, just hypothetically spitballing here is a lot 312 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: longer than the list of what we see now to 313 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: be viable candidates. So if you've got to get rid 314 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: of Jim Caldwell, you have to answer, well, replace him 315 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: with who? But I also think you have to say 316 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: the same thing with Matthew Stafford. If you're willing to 317 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: run off Stafford and not try to fix him with 318 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: a different coach, then with whom are you going to 319 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: replace him? Because those guys don't grow on trees either. 320 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: And again, he's not yet thirty years old, So what 321 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: are you gonna do at quarterback? And all also ask 322 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: this to the room. Let's say you put him on 323 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the market, and assuming he'll redo his contract and make 324 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: this trade somehow acceptable, what's he worth on the market, 325 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: assuming the contract that he continues to make sixteen fifteen, 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars, which I think he would. I don't 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: think his value has really taken that much of a hit. 328 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they get more in 329 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: compensation than the second or third round pick. Something like that. 330 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: I thought, Man if he if he reaches free agency, 331 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: no no, no, if the lot because I don't cut him, 332 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I have an I have an under thirty 333 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: quarterback or through for five thousand yards a few years ago. 334 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm not cutting that guy. I think he I think 335 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: he brings more than Sam Bradford and Bradford what basically 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: displaying the other side of the fence. He's been there 337 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: since two thousand nine. This has not been a brief marriage. 338 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: They've had him now seven years. Uh. I se he 339 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: wear so much less than Jake Cutler, by the way, 340 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: I just don't get that he's been fair. I mean 341 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: the bad Traders a couple of years ago. I think 342 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: the dynamics have changed. They haven't. I could see a 343 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: different coach and GM coming in and being like, we 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: know who Matthew Stafford is, and we don't think he's 345 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: the guy. He doesn't. He doesn't do hot reads properly, 346 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to read defenses, and he's this 347 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: far into his career. I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked 348 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: if they said, let's just start this whole thing over. 349 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: And who knows is Calvin John's gonna be back? Is 350 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: this gonna be an entire wholesale makeover of the franchise? 351 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: I think number one, it depends if they wind up 352 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: with the number one draft pick and whoever is sitting 353 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: there at GM at that point, however, they handle the 354 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: front office and the scouting and they become enamored with 355 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: whenever quarterback you want to fill in the blank, and 356 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: we don't know who that is necessarily today. But the 357 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: hot the read is from a lot of college But 358 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: there isn't that Andrew Lux sitting out there. Necessarily. There's 359 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: a couple options, But a lot of times new coaches 360 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: come in and there's fear with them too. They actually 361 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: seem to cling to that quarterback that the last guy 362 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: couldn't fix. And I could see it the team saying, 363 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: just what you're saying, Afford is here, and yeah he's 364 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: not perfect, but if we get rid of him, what 365 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: are you gonna roll with? Dan Orlovsky and a rookie 366 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: picked in the third round. He's not gonna start. I 367 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 1: looked it up here. Stafford is he's not twenty eight 368 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: until firb word. So he he is the guy where 369 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: some coaches might say, I I want the Lions job 370 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: because of Matthews. I think so too. I don't know 371 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: if there are many court coaches that would say that, 372 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: but I guarantee you there are some. But then the 373 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: the other option is you get rid of him, and 374 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: then you're Bill O'Brien making a big deal out of 375 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: signing Brian Hoyer, or you're the Brown signing Josh McCown. 376 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: There's nothing out there. We sat in the studio and 377 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: we talked about the end of the Jay Cutler era 378 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: and what it was gonna mean next year without Jake Cutler. 379 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: In Chicago last year in December when they benched him 380 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: for Jimmy Clawson, because we just assumed they're gonna move 381 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: on from Jay Cutler at that point. Guaranted there's guaranteed 382 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: money in his contract. That's a little different. But I've 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: been comparing Stafford as he's almost the same type of 384 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: guy in career as Cutler. He's just three or four 385 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: years less of criticism and people haven't gotten sick of him. 386 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: My point is, though, they're gonna keep Stafford most likely 387 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: unless they get a number one I'll pick or something like. 388 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: But they'll keep him until they have his replacement. Right, 389 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: if they're gonna keep Jake Cutler in Chicago because they 390 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get a trade, maybe maybe you couldn't get a 391 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: great trade for Stafford's fascinating trade Cutler for Stafford. How 392 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: about that in division? That'll happen, by the way, they 393 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: get the Packers next week when they come back. Right, So, 394 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: the Lions haven't won in Green Basins and eighteen the century, 395 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: the previous previous century. So when they did, actually Sheldon Price, 396 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: Sheldon White, I'm sorry the new GM actually played in 397 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: that game. Andrew tell us the best thing that happened 398 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL television show this week? This week? 399 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Oh wow, this week was I don't want to call 400 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: it a boring week, but no, but in terms of 401 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: fun interviews, it wasn't a fun interview kind of week. 402 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: Does that make an How about the fall season? What's 403 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the fall season? I don't watch network TV. And not 404 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: not to be rude or anything, I just know, I mean, 405 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: like autumn. Oh, autumn fall season. Oh yeah, I love 406 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: the fact that I'm now wearing a hoodie here. I 407 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: love feeling. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, ninety 408 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: degrees is awesome. I did go to the beach Saturday. 409 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: If that's what you're asking, that is what on the beach? 410 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: Which bay? I'm wearing a Halibu. That's a nice speech 411 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: to go. And finally, last week on with Andrew, last 412 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: week you revealed and I think it was around in 413 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the NFL exclusive, Siciliano in a relationship. Uh. Today, I 414 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: have one question to ask. Do I hear wedding bells? 415 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna be like Andrew luck Monday Night America. 416 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: There's a team statement. I'm not going to comment on 417 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: that there First, and Siciliano is the host of the 418 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: Around the NFL television show on NFL Network on five 419 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: times a week. God knows what you're gonna ask next. Next, 420 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: it's getting to a dark place. Uh yes, so make 421 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: sure you check that out. Also Direct TV the red 422 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: zone domination there you know what? Also, thanks for west 423 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: links tweet. West Link set out a red zone tweet. 424 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: Was he yesterday? I've never been able to watch You're 425 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: you're you're a good you're a nice man. Thank you. 426 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: Who's the other guy that does Red Zone? Some hands? 427 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Do you do you give you him as a competitor, 428 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: As a competitor, listen, do you dislike him? So? I 429 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: just first of all, Scott and I went to Syracuse together. 430 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: He's a couple of years older than me, but we 431 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: certainly knew each other at school. So there are two. 432 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, there are two Red Zones. 433 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: There is the original Red Zone channel now in it's 434 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: eleventh season on NFL Sunday Ticket, exclusively on Direct TV. 435 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: It is in every it is. I had no idea 436 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: there were two. I thought you guys were like on 437 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: the same I was gonna get to if you were 438 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: in a bar in America, you're gonna see one, I do, 439 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: because every bar has direct TV so they can get 440 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: all the games there you go. Okay, And the NFL 441 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket, which is advertised by Peyton Manning and Eli 442 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Manning and Andrew Luck and Tony Romo and and football 443 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: on your phone and all that. And then there is 444 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: the one done here in our building called NFL Red Zone, 445 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: which is hosted by Scott Hanson, it sounds less important. No, no, no, no, 446 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm explaining it's on NFL mobile right, yes, and it's 447 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: on yes, and it's on the other satellite server. Yes. Yeah. Okay, 448 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: so there's two. And I'm just gonna say, like, you know, 449 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: you know Scott Hansen isn't you know, always bragging about Oh, 450 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: I gotta you know. I didn't pee once today during 451 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: my REGI I haven't. Andrews a pro doesn't need to 452 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: key No, I do tweet about it. Shack. Yeah, thanks, buddy. 453 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: Well I took a shot. I figured didn't. All right, 454 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: Jets fanboy, keep on why it got to get personal? 455 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: Why he gotta get personal? You just took a shot. 456 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it. The guy who just asked if 457 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: there's a wedding bells, why it gets personal? Let's check 458 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: it out, alright, Andrew Siciliano, you know what I'm gonna 459 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: go do. Now what I'm gonna listen to Rose and 460 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: that is the most artful thing. And you know what, 461 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: I may go listen to Sessler's Brown's podcast. Do you 462 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: have one? I can cook a cook one, start one. 463 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: Let's go Mark, and I'm gonna start to Charles Manson 464 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: podcast what that's That was an odd uh segue for Andrew, 465 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: who's no concept of the back story. There no more 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: about the mystery of why it all happened. So there's 467 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: a lot of okay, so a lot of different options obviously, 468 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: but Andrew, thank you, and uh, you know, I'm sorry 469 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: for for what the thing with the Twitter? Now? I 470 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: feel bad? No the Twitter people, see, here's the deal. 471 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: I respond, didn't we go to that big meeting a 472 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: couple of months afore? They said? Respond to people on Twitter? Yes? Yes, Okay. 473 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: So when people say did you go to the bathroom today, 474 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: you're a man? Respond my question. Next week we'll have 475 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: something to do with bathroom happens. The answer is it's 476 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: been since week three of two. Wow, wow bang go 477 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: all right, there it is Andrew Siciliano. Good night. Now 478 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: we get to the rest of week nine, and this 479 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: is a situation. We got six teams on by excuse me, 480 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: six times, and by that means thirteen games. We already 481 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: did one game, so we're gonna talk about both games. 482 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Yes or no? Is that an impression 483 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: of something or someone or an area. It's just it's 484 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: an impression of an area, like a location dialect. It is, 485 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: it's just something that comes out. It's it's a real 486 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: it's a real thing. Uh so yeah, that is the 487 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: brain Was it correct? Were the numbers right? That's really 488 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: why I do it. Yeah, that's correct. It's Dan's mathematician. Yeah, 489 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: it's it's me kind of showing off a little bit. 490 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: So that is it. Let's start getting into it, and 491 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: let's start with the big a f C East showdown. 492 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah I said it. In fact, it's the big loser 493 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: goes Home match between the Miami Dolphins and the Buffalo Bills. 494 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: Is two teams sitting at three and four in a 495 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: competitive a f C playoff picture. You know, the division's gone, 496 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: so to fall to three and five eliminate your margin 497 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: of vera almost entirely. So I think, um, you know, listen, 498 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: those that asked the fork, we didn't have time for 499 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the fork this week at the discussion the committee got together. 500 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: We enjoyed the Danish, but we didn't get to have 501 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: a fork discussion. But Tuesday we will talk fork. And 502 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: one of these teams is gonna come up if they lose. 503 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: Dolphins Bills. Mark will start with you. Uh, it feels 504 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: like they've both been forked, just saying, what do you 505 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: mean they already the Dolphins early and then the Bills. 506 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: We did fork the Bills. Oh no, look at me 507 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: losing track of the fight. I don't really I remember 508 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins side. I don't remember Buffalo Sid I you 509 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: and West pushed me on it. That's right, we did 510 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: the Bills too, That's right, all right, we're anyway. The 511 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: loser of this game isn't bad at a bad spot, Mark, 512 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: get us going. Well, there was a lot of hope 513 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, I thought, initially because of the way 514 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: Cameron Wake was playing. They had twelve sacks and a 515 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: couple of games, and then suddenly you lose him, and 516 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: that's a huge, huge knock to this deepness. Not to 517 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: get it to your point, but right, I'm more roughly 518 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: fourteen seconds into my right, how long is it gonna be? Well, 519 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Tyrod Taylor, is that is the 520 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: reason that Buffalo is gonna win this game? Okay, he's healthy. 521 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: The reason because before we moved on to the next subject, 522 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: that's why I was interjecting in them anyway, Sorry, Mark, 523 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: The point I was gonna make before we go crazy 524 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: about Cameron Wake and West. I know you were big 525 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: on Wake. They were losing like thirty eight to six 526 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: because when Cameron Roy got hurt to the Patriots. I 527 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: get it to the best offense in the NFL, one 528 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: of the best offense. But he's one player, and you 529 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: believe that they were a playoff team, and one player 530 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: only means so much. What if you took Tom Brady 531 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: off the Patriots, that's different, But what do you think 532 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: off the Patriots? And wouldn't put Cameron Wake remotely in 533 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: the same ballpark. And I also would say, what you 534 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: call Cameron Wake the best player in the NFL for 535 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: weeks six for two weeks, that's great, j J. You 536 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: know who's the best player in the NFL overall on defense? 537 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: Is is j J? Watt? And kind of lousy teams 538 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: and one player can only mean so much. My point 539 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: is if they are a team with that sort of 540 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: playoff potential and that their offense was turning it around, 541 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: which you believed in. In their defense has a lot 542 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: of good pieces. I think they can survive a Cameron 543 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Weight loss, you know, overcome that. My crazy how many 544 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: times when we're going to talk about this Cameron Wake loss. 545 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Look I thought they were a borderline playoff team. I 546 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: didn't think they were the Patriots sizzle. That's why I 547 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: think that if you were a borderline playoff team and 548 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: you lose your best player, you're not that impressive. Part 549 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: of what else happened was the offense heated up when 550 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Campbell took her. I mean, right, all right, it's not 551 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: just Cameron Wake, but it's that the Dolphins in general 552 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: are playing better. But for me, the difference with Buffalo 553 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: over their two game losing streak is EJ. Manuel, who 554 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: stinks was playing quarterback. He buried them against the Jaguars, 555 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor is a completely different quarterback who does 556 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: much more than EJ. Manual gives the Bills a better 557 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: chance to win these types of games. I don't know 558 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: a problem that we've forked him, though. I think the 559 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: Bills will win this game, and I think the Bills 560 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: have more going for them in general. They haven't put 561 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: it all together this season, but during their best games 562 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: they have looked like a playoffs sort of team. They 563 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: had a crazy amount of injuries, and they're healthier now 564 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: and their home and I think there's an even bigger 565 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: game for them than it is. For the Dolphins, they're 566 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: they're just about done. You're right, Dan, I believe if 567 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: they lose this game. We took the Bills across the board, 568 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: which is a little bit surprising to me, but I 569 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: guess we're all thinking of the Bills are due for 570 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: that great performance that again makes you kind of invested 571 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: in them, and the Dolphins maybe peaked in now they 572 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: don't have Weakes, so they're in a tougher spot. Uh. 573 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: Moving on, the Green Bay Packers are coming off the 574 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: first loss of the season, the game in which Aaron 575 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers just was looking like, uh, you know, average Joe, 576 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: not me, I'm regular Joe. But he threw for what 577 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: seventies six yards? Is that seventy seven yards? Looking very human? 578 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: And now he has to go to Charlotte to face 579 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: obviously a Panther's team that has undefeated at seven or 580 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: oh they have. They find ways to win, and their 581 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: defense is very good. They have an all pro corner 582 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: and Josh Norman that's gonna probably let's say, cover Randall 583 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Cobbert and really hold Aaron Rodgers. Uh, give Aaron Rodgers 584 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: problems potentially, Greg, do you think Rogers has another tough 585 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: challenge in front of him where he's not gonna be 586 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: putting up big numbers. Yes, because this is such a 587 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: good defense and secondary and nothing is coming easy for them. 588 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: And I've been waiting and I'm sure it's happening in 589 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay a little bit for some criticism to go 590 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's way. I mean, why why can't these receivers 591 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: get open earlier in the down? They are expecting Aaron 592 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers to essentially create magic. I rewatched that game. I 593 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: thought Aaron Rodgers played fine. I mean, you didn't play well, 594 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think it was a game where you 595 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: looked at and you thought, wow, that was a really 596 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: off day for Aaron Rodgers. I think they have not 597 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: been able to get Randall Cobb opened. They haven't been 598 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: able to get Davante Adams up. It's really that entire group, 599 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: and they obviously couldn't protect him last week. I think 600 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: this week they can protect him. The Panthers passers really 601 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: isn't that great. It hasn't been great the last few weeks. 602 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean Green Bay hasn't lost back to back games 603 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: since two thousand and ten, and that has everything to 604 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: do with McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and McCarthy. They asked him, 605 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: what's the difference between when you wax Carolina last year 606 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: and right now? And he said, Josh Norman. Josh Norman 607 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: who held t Y Hilton to one catch last week 608 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: and has been playing out of his mind, and if 609 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: he can erase Randall Cobb for most of the game, 610 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: some of these receivers that we've you know, touted all 611 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: off season in Green Bay are not the equivalent of 612 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson will make up play after the catch. Rand 613 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: the Cob like there were two plays last week where 614 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: he he had the ball in position, some open space 615 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: and a Broncos linebacker tackled him. He didn't make Dannymathan 616 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: miss and we kept we kept blaming it on on 617 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: his shoulder injury. But I don't know. He's out there, 618 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: he's playing, he looks okay. It's a big story in 619 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay this week, to the point where Mike McCarthy said, 620 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: it's not a one position issue because everybody's getting on 621 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, and to me, that is that that's 622 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: where it all starts. You guys. You guys are getting 623 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: on Cob, James Jones. It's been a month since he's 624 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: had more than two catches in the game. Davante Adams 625 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: has done nothing this year time Montgomery's injured. I mean, 626 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: they just have nothing. It was I've never seen a 627 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: secondary lockdown wide receivers like the Broncos did to the 628 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: to the I hold in my hand the week nine 629 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: research notes this. Yeah, and anybody named the artist Corona, Wow, yes, damn, 630 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: that's good. We have played, they played three times a year. 631 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: Play what from the research notes? Not a great song? 632 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: I like it? Well, not a great song, and you know, 633 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: late Lady Leigh, as West would point out, but it is, 634 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, it has its first certainly one of the 635 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: most popular songs that Dan Hanss desk. That's true. I'll 636 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: give it from the research guard. In Aaron Rodgers last 637 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: fourteen games, following a loss in West, I could feel 638 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: there's a little excitement coming from your area now with 639 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: the research notes like it. Used to think of bad 640 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: stat was coming, but now it's all good stuff. Well 641 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: it's because you've learned how to use statistic. Okay, that's fair. 642 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: Rogers is fourteen and oh in those fourteen games, with 643 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: forty five touchdowns and five picks, has not lost consecutive 644 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: games in the same season since, as Mark said, Week 645 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: five and six of two thousand and ten, I generally 646 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: think that's that's garbage. Okay, I don't care about that 647 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: as much, but I will. This is Aaron Rodgers and 648 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: the numbers back at up. Anytime they lose, they go, 649 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: they prepare that week like the world is coming to 650 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: an end, and then they bury their opponent. Why wouldn't 651 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: that happen here? If the world is coming to an end, 652 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: football wouldn't matter that much to be ill prepared. This 653 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: is the game of the week at one o'clock on Sunday. 654 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: Please take my research. God, not serious. This is a 655 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: game that could decide whose home field advantage in the NFC, right, 656 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean the winner, I would say, hypothetically, I think 657 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: the winner has a little bit of a head start, 658 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: especially if it's the Carolina Panthers. At this point, I 659 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: think they've convinced us they can win these type of 660 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: big games, and we have to see how the Packers 661 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: defense responds after they got You know that that got 662 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: ignored a little bit, that they got pushed around five 663 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: yards against the worst offense in the league, and no 664 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: one was talking about the lousy Packers defense after that game, Mark, 665 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: you were the only one among us to pick the Panthers. 666 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: Of course you're You're known to change your picks often 667 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: after they're in, and we talked about them on the show. 668 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: That's like gained more information and insight onto the match up. 669 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: But now if Josh Norman hadn't deflected that past to 670 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: t Y Hill and everybody would think totally different about 671 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers this week. Why did you take the Panthers? 672 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: They're at home. I feel like they they're gonna hold serve. 673 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't that I don't think the Packers could win 674 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: this game. But I'm going Caroline and rolling the dice. Alright, 675 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: very good. So I think they're favored. No, they're not. 676 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: We're not allowed to discuss secord that favorite. What do 677 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: you mean favor? Let's move on the St. Louis Rams. Uh. 678 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: There they are sitting in second place in the NFC West, 679 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: two games behind the Cardinals. Greg feeling and feeling real 680 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: excited about that. And now they get the Minnesota Vikings, 681 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: who are five and two in second place in their division, 682 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: the NFC North. Uh. So, on paper, we got a 683 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: nice little matchup and the fact that it's in Minnesota. 684 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: Uh makes you think that that the Vikings will have 685 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: an advantage here. But this is what the Rams have 686 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley against Adrian Peterson and West. You are of 687 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: the mind that the Rams, not the Vikings, have the 688 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: advantage of running back. I don't even think that's disputable. 689 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: How is that even like a bold statement? But I 690 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: think it's absolutely disputable. Peterson's third in the league. In Russian, 691 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: We've been talking about him that we don't think he's 692 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: much different than he was a couple of years. Coming 693 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: off his best game of the season, not statistically, but 694 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: the way he ran, getting like consistent six seven yards, 695 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: I think girl is coming off one of his It 696 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: shows how amazing he is. That might have been his 697 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: best might have been. Now I was gonna say that 698 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: might have been his worst game of the season. I 699 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: thought he looks somewhat human that if you take out 700 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: the seven yard touch, Yeah he didn't. He didn't have 701 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: a lot of players where he pushed the pile and everything. 702 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: But he's just so decisive and he gets better. It's 703 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: such a cliche, but he really does get better as 704 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: the game wears on. But it really is. It has 705 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: been almost week after week, the one or two big 706 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: bursts that that's where the majority of his stats are 707 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: coming from. He's not a run for eight, twelve, eleven, fifteen, nine, six. 708 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: It's like against Cleveland and last week there's a lot 709 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: of times where he stopped up and then he blows 710 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: you up with the big run. But that's that's what 711 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Chris Johnson did in his prime too. And this season, yeah, 712 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean everything that girl has done. And he's on 713 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: pace to break Dickerson's rookie rushing record, which would be 714 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: five hundred more yards than Peterson had as a rookie. 715 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: He's he's he's already on a better pace post a 716 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: c L than Peterson was in his post a c 717 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: L season. That's the gold standard for a c LS recovery. 718 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: This is a game where you know, the Vikings our favored, 719 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: they're at home, they're five and two, and yet I 720 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: I don't think these teams are that even and when when, 721 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: for instance, you look at the Football Outsiders numbers d 722 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: v o A they have the Rams is the thirteenth 723 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: best team in the league. You mentioned last week how 724 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: bad the Vikings are in their ratings. Seven I think 725 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: they've been very lucky for what it's worth. I don't 726 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: agree with Football Outsiders best team No. I mean there's 727 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: just numbers based on how you know they've moved the 728 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: ball and what they could expect on a week to 729 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: week basis. The Rams have consistently had a really good defense. 730 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: The Vikings have have done enough to win close games 731 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: against bad teams. This Rams team I used to talk 732 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: about Chip Kelly had the quarterback proof offense. Jeff Fisher 733 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: is now mastering the quarterback free offense. He would prefer 734 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: if quarterbacks did not exist, and he's he's doing about 735 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: as well as that can be had. That's why he'll 736 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: never be back to the Super Bowl, right. He coaches 737 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: like it's they're only plays our runs and then bick 738 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: falls throwing the ball forty yards down the field. It's 739 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: like the old those old Raiders teams in the late eighties. 740 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: They're only throws. Our trick plays with Tavon Austin and 741 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: fifty yard bombs and they and Kenny Britt usually drops those. 742 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: Funny little anecdote from Jason Hartilius, one of our producers. 743 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher was on yesterday Total Access and before they 744 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: were taping. You know, they asked him about tug Gerland. 745 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, it's funny. Oh I do is 746 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: turn it around and hand it off to this kid, 747 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: and now everyone who wants to talk to me, and 748 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: Hartelius was saying they should he should have left that 749 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: in like that was good TV. If you're the Vikings 750 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: and you don't win this number one, you lose your 751 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: final wild card spot to the Rams as of Sunday night, 752 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: and then you have to go play the Raiders, the Packers, 753 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons, the Seahawks, and the Cardinals before the Packers 754 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 1: again to close the season. To Mark's point, we lucked 755 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: out two games in a row. Are you just gonna 756 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: repeat what I just said? Vikings have played the weakest 757 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: strength of schedule up to this point in the season 758 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: eighteen and thirty six, but Minnesota will now face the 759 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: toughest remaining schedule from here on out forty two and 760 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's a six seven. Your stat was basically 761 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: just a repeat of Greg's Football Outsider's data and Mark's 762 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: scheduled data. What do you mean? Because Greg made the 763 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: point that they've only the ranks STARO and Football outs 764 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: because they haven't played anybody yet. And then Mark made 765 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: the point about the upcoming scar and then I and 766 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: then I provided the numbers to puck it all up 767 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: because you guy added us sighting like these hocus pocus websites. 768 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: I got actual data, the researchual, but you did put 769 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: a beautiful little so you just added gravitas to the situation. 770 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: Just because I've cornered the research market now and you 771 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: guys are trying to get in on my corner, get 772 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: off the corner because it's mine. Just for that. The 773 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: next game is gonna get some more research and I 774 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: want to give West some props here for or well, 775 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: that's what this show is all about, two of you 776 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: just backslapping each other. It is since when does that 777 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: ever happen? Last episode the whole thing was scientist heat 778 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. Well it's a backdoor heating. Alright, proceed alright, 779 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: let's get to my complimenting. Can you cut marketize Mike's 780 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin is having a great season. The numbers are 781 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: not outstanding. I don't know if he's on pace to 782 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: get you your sandwich or whatever you said with it, 783 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: but per play when they give him a chance to 784 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: make a play. He is a difference maker. He is 785 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: the guy. He's maybe not worth a top ten pick 786 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: with this role, but he is a very valuable piece 787 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: and is fun to watch every week. I'll tell you 788 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: what he's worth. He's worth Rotor World, mentioning that they 789 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: actually exist. There you go, connor Or is the only 790 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: one to take the vikings. By the way, I will 791 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: say that Mark, who has had back to back great 792 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: weeks with the picks, has moved out of the seller 793 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: in our picks league. Connor dropped into last place. So 794 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: I talked to Connor about that on our chat clients 795 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: slack um quit slacking, sign up for slack today, uh, 796 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: And he said he was gonna stop being so risky 797 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: with his picks. He's gonna rein it in, which is 798 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: kind of bummer to here, right, And it's not the 799 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: way you climb out of last place anyways, it's you know, 800 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: what do you know about picks? Greg? You quit? I 801 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: kind of disagree with you. Greg. I kind of got 802 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: smart and a little bit more conservative and climbed out 803 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: of last place. So Greg, you quit on us. That's 804 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: playing for fourth Wow, whoa, whoa, I'm not even listening. 805 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: To it. There's a lot of heat between the two 806 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: of you, guys not even involved, and he's taking shots. 807 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: This is listen. I'm uncomfortable, but I also love it. 808 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: We got moving on the Washington Redskins. Oh, you're in 809 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: a tough spot, Washington. You're three and four and that's cute. 810 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: But now you gotta go to Gillette Stadium. You gotta 811 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: go to Foxboro, which is basically just like a mall 812 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: where football is played to face the undefeated, untested, with 813 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: the exception that Jets seven and oh New England Patriots 814 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 1: on paper, listen to. The games are not played on paper. Greg, 815 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: this is going to be a blowout, But you don't 816 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: think so. You think will be very close. No, I 817 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: think they'll handle their business. Wouldn't be a shock if 818 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: it's close at halftime. That that's what happens in games. 819 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: It happens in Patriots games. But there's no reason to 820 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: think that Kirk Cousins gonna avoid mistakes for four quarters. 821 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: And the Redskins defense, we just got lit up before 822 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: the bye by the Bucks, are going to be able 823 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: to stop. The last time the Patriots didn't score in 824 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: a quarter was the first quarter of the season opener. 825 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 1: That's an amazing that's an amazing stat. The last time 826 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: they didn't score in a quarter was the first quarter 827 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: of the season opener, which, by the way, at two 828 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: long drives that took up the whole quarters they've they've 829 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: straight It just shows how like steady a metronome that 830 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: they've been is it it's probably in there. It's not, 831 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean it's uh, you know, I bet 832 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: it's in there. Probably in there somewhere. It's like, get 833 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: off my quarter. Patriots have five players on our mid 834 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: season All Pro Team, which is the most of any team. 835 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: Not surprisingly nfl dot com slash Mid Season Report you 836 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: can find all that plug stuff. You can also go 837 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: to Chris Wesleyan's archive and check out that archive or 838 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: nfl dot com slash All Pro. Mark your thoughts on 839 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: this gratuitous plugging. Keep going. I'm sure there's more ways 840 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 1: that you could get in and you know, promote this piece. 841 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: Mark take us through your thought process right now? What 842 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: are you so angry? I think I'm actually not angry 843 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: on any level. Let me just say what, I'm having 844 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: a fantastic time here. Let me take a guess. Yes, 845 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: if you're listening to the podcast. You heard the Cleveland 846 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: Cincinnati recap, but we have yet to watch the game. 847 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: Mark and I are going to go somewhere to watch it. 848 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: And I think there's a little doom and gloom as 849 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: you look ahead. I think it's no different than Alliance. 850 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: So you don't your team on national television tonight where 851 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: every all the hot takers get going on Twitter and 852 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a bunch of nonsense. I'm just turning 853 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: my phone off and you're let's let's open up, open 854 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: up the book a little bit, pull back the curtain. 855 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: You're worried that West and Greg are gonna trash your 856 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: team at the top of the show. Well, I don't 857 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: think they're gonna trash them unless they deserve it. And 858 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: my concern is that Cleveland's gonna deserve it. It's more 859 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: than more than what's going to be said, is the 860 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: fact that you know, you talk about flex games. You 861 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: can't flex these Thursday night games. This thing needs to 862 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: get off. What I wouldn't want him. I'm interested to 863 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: see John Well, we've already talked by Kevin Patrack had 864 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: that home gym now for probably a couple of months, 865 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: maybe we could start getting pictures of him, you know, shirtless, 866 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: just to get the progress checks. And you guys are 867 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,399 Speaker 1: gonna I've seen like a five seventy pound man before. 868 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 1: I know what Patrick looks like. It's not the before 869 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: and after, it's the after, in the after after due, 870 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: Patrick's body is sick. He's a normal white man. Well, 871 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: I got recent. I don't know that's what Patrick looks like. 872 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: What does that have to do with any of this? 873 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: Patrick's buncomfortable? All right, let's move on to the Yeah, 874 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: we got the we got the Patriots across the board, 875 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: as you might imagine. Moving on the Tennessee Titans. Excuse me, 876 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Tittoons. I'm sorry, guys, It's just it is 877 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: what it is. Have a new interim head coach. By 878 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: the way, I thought it, I thought it was funny 879 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: and slightly tragic that Ken wizzen Hunt went three and 880 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: twenty with the Titans and they replaced them with an 881 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: interim coach that is three and twenty with the Bills 882 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: before he got fired, and Mike Malarkey and one of 883 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: the most humans that we've ever encountered. Yeah, so that's 884 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: that's the situation. The Titans are Titans. Tytoons are in 885 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: and now they get the Saints, who all of a sudden, 886 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: the Saints, who they looked as bad as a team 887 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: could look at the start of the season. Now you 888 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: look up there four and four, they're you know, they're 889 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: probably not gonna catch Carolina at seven or no, obviously, 890 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: but they're right in the playoff mix. They're playing well. 891 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: All those concerns greg about Drew Brees and his shoulder, 892 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: they were assaulted away after really one of his great 893 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: or perhaps his best performance ever last Sunday. He gets 894 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: the Giants, at least statistically. So you gotta think, now, 895 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: if if Drew Brees is Drew Brees again and he's 896 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: starting to figure out how to pass to these guys, 897 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna put a points and they're gonna win games, 898 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: and they should take care of business against Tennessee. They 899 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: should Tennessee's defense, as West has said, Oh no, I'm 900 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 1: complimenting West again. I'm sorry. Well, yeah, you're right, the 901 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: Titans defense has played well. I still think it's a 902 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: miracle in the in two thousand and fifteen that the 903 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Saints scored fifty two points led by a hundred and 904 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: twenty five yard plus games from Ben Watson and Marcus 905 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: How does that happen there too, leading receivers. It's insane. 906 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: Watson looked great. Yeah. I've been staring at Ben Watson 907 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: on waiver wires for my two fantasy teams week after week, 908 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, should I just pick him up for 909 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: the hell of it? And then he bangs out like 910 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: back to a hundred, back to back a hundred twenty 911 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: yard games four yards this year, which is more than 912 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham had. Well. Even in our Josh Hill and 913 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: we were writing the Josh Hill, and when I say we, 914 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean me writing the Josh Hill, making the lead 915 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: piece with a lot of self doubt about why he 916 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: was involved in that process. Even back then, they were 917 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: whispering about the fact that Watson was the only tight 918 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: end they trusted in the passing game. You could tell 919 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: that him and Breeze have a close personal relationship to 920 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: which can never He's a very leadership I don't know 921 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: where you're going there. This game is interesting. I think 922 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 1: they can take the tunes away from the Titoons this 923 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: week because Marcus Mariota makes this team more interesting and 924 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: he's playing maybe the worst defense in the entire league, 925 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: certainly one, and he gives him a chance. He gives 926 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: him a chance. They didn't have it much of a 927 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: chance with Zach Mettenburg. How about this, I'm gonna go 928 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: out of a limb here verse versus Titans at Redskins 929 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: at Texans. The Saints are gonna be seven and four. 930 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: One thing I noticed last week too, I watched that 931 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: game this morning. For the first time all year, I 932 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: saw the real C. J. Spiller On one play he 933 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of exploded through a hole for ten or twelve 934 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: yards And that's the first time this year I've seen. Well, 935 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: no Kyrie Robinson for the rest of the season, So 936 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: they need Spiller and he maybe he's gonna get more 937 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: snaps because of that. Maybe you'll hit the starting lineup 938 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: for Melana vitrap She he's been wasting away on the bench. 939 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Dan on the schedule. Later on it's Bucks, Lions, Jaguars. 940 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: The Saints have one of the easiest Speaking of good 941 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: colms this week, actually you went negative in the end. 942 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: You went with the teams that won't make the playoffs. 943 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: Initially you were thinking the teams that will jump because 944 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: of the schedule, but you wrote about teams with tough 945 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: schedules down the stretch. I was directed by Henry, the 946 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: director of programming, to go negative, and uh, I just 947 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: follow orders when I'm told by Henry to do anything. 948 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: You'd be a good soldier if he were the commander. Yes, yes, 949 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: we took the Saints across the board, moving on to 950 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: the meadowlands where the Jacksonville jack who at two and 951 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: five but still in the mix in the a f 952 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: C South, faced the New York Jets, who are coming 953 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: up back to back glasses. One loss perfectly respectable, respectable 954 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: against the Patriots, the next loss not at all respectable, 955 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: look terrible and lethargic and slow against the Raiders at 956 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: the black Hole. So now the Jets are four and three. 957 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: Is a very important game for this team. Ryan Fitzpatrick 958 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: has a torn ligament in his non throwing thumb, but 959 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: he practiced all week, much to Geno smith chagrin, and 960 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: will start. So I I'm happy about that as the 961 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: Jets end, but concerned about ball security. We'll see how 962 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,720 Speaker 1: that goes. Uh. So you add it all up, West, 963 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: tell me I feel like this is things are set 964 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: up for a nice Jets week the game. They they 965 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: they're better team, they're coming off two losses, they have 966 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: their quarterback, they're at home. I think the Jets take 967 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 1: care of business. You're you're frielling, well, yeah, I think 968 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: you just have everything you said is true. They're they're 969 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: the better team. I think that the Jaguars have the 970 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: better quarterback, though, that's that's fair. Fair. Maybe a lot 971 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: of maybe a couple of pieces on offense that you know, 972 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: a lot of teams could feel enviable about. Alan Robinson 973 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: leading the NFL and catches of twenty plus yards ending 974 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: yards perception, and Alan Hearns is in the top five. 975 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson is on pace for like a four hundred 976 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: yards season, which I mean, you know, a lot of 977 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: people but in the preseason were very high on Robinson, 978 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: and he's actually one of the few Jaguars players in 979 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: recent memory living up to the hype. So good for him. 980 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: Their offense in general has taken a big step forward. 981 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: But Blake Bortles is coming off his worst game of 982 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: the year, and really the last two weeks before the bye, 983 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: he did not play well at all. So that's a 984 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: concern when you're about to play this Jet secondary, who 985 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: has to be smarting after the beat down they just 986 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: got from a second year quarterback and wanting to prove that. 987 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: You know, we thought this is one of the best 988 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: defenses in the league and they got it was a 989 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: boat races that. Yeah, that was some humble pie that 990 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: they got served. And I think a team of veterans, 991 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: I think that they'll wake up and and respond to that, 992 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: because I'm sure the coaching staff buried him for seven 993 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: straight days about that performance. By the time kickoff happens, 994 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,439 Speaker 1: one guy I'm legitimately concerned about. And you guys, maybe 995 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what Pro Football Reference says, Uh, excuse me, 996 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: a p F says, But Antonio Crimarti, I don't know 997 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: if he's any good anymore. He's got the name brand obviously, 998 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: But you say that Jets have us lockdown. I think 999 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: Buster Screen, as we've talked about, has been very good 1000 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: in his role. Uh when when the secondary is healthy, 1001 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: it's Chris has been good. Yeah, it's been very good. 1002 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: Over all of the sudden Revus maybe is not the 1003 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,919 Speaker 1: same revous that he was, but if you look week 1004 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: after week, he keeps these guys in check. Has not 1005 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: had a bad week, so he is still an elite 1006 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: level corner. But Carimarti concerns me, and he's been getting 1007 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: a beat a lot this year. Isn't the talking now 1008 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: about moving him to safety, which I think would be 1009 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: a horrible idea. P F tackle he's a verse, he's 1010 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: a verse to contact. P F has Screen and Cromarty 1011 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: as the ninety and hundred best out of one cornerbacks. 1012 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: That surprises me. If Screen it doesn't shock me about Carimarti, who, 1013 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: by the way, every two second or third season of 1014 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: his entire career, he's been terrible. Jets fans know that. 1015 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: It's not like he's a year after year. I'm just 1016 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: a lockdown guy hit he'll get. I don't even think 1017 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: it's contract related, because sometimes it will be in his 1018 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: free agent year. It's just he's an up and down 1019 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: emotional confidence time. And they can get out of this 1020 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: contract after one year if they choose. I could see 1021 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: that happening, sure, I mean I think that with the Jets. 1022 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if last week was just an aberration, 1023 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: but it was weird to see a Todd Bowles defense 1024 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: just whiffing on tackles and almost like shying away from 1025 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: contact in some cases, and they're gonna They're gonna come 1026 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: back as a different team. I think if you're not 1027 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: a Patriots fan and you're not on the throne of ease, 1028 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: I think these games can happen to any team. Every 1029 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: once in a while, you just kind of hit a 1030 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: buzz saw and you're on the road and and the 1031 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: snowball starts building. But I I think they'll be okay. 1032 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing I do want to see 1033 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: with the Jets, I want to see Chris Ivory running 1034 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: like Chris Ivery again, because it's been a few weeks 1035 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: now and I'm not if he has another bad game. 1036 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: I have a lot of concerns that that leg is 1037 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: not healthy at all and they're hiding it. I'm really 1038 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: intrigued by this game. I'm looking forward to so much 1039 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 1: so that maybe I won't assign you the Jets Dan 1040 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: for the first time ever if I'll take it for myself, 1041 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: and you can, mean have Tennessee, New Orleans, you know, 1042 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: it's almost the only thing I have at my wife 1043 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: and and I have the Jets. It's weird that the 1044 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: Jets four and three and three games out of first, 1045 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars two and five and a merely one game 1046 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: out of first that's true. You know, one game out 1047 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: of first game we took the Jets across the board. 1048 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: Always gets me nervous moving on the Oakland Raid as 1049 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: a Silver and Black. As we just said, put a 1050 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: whooping on a very I was gonna say, very good 1051 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: Jets team, but a good Jets team. Uh So they're 1052 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: sitting now at four and three, in the middle of 1053 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: the a f C playoff mix, and now they go 1054 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. Here's another big test for the Raiders. If 1055 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 1: we're thinking the Raiders are good, you know, a good team, 1056 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: you gotta go into Pittsburgh and put up a good 1057 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: performance and maybe even beat the Steelers. That are they 1058 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: have a quarterback that's still banged up, they don't have 1059 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: Levian Bell, the Steelers still vulnerable. Mark, do you think 1060 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: this is a week where we can see the Raiders 1061 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: take another step into being one of the a f 1062 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,040 Speaker 1: C teams that we should be taking very seriously, much 1063 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: more so than you know, with what Pittsburgh was putting 1064 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: on the field a year ago. I think it comes 1065 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: down to, is can their offense get back on track? 1066 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: Big Ben just did not seem completely healthy last week 1067 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: and you know, with another week of practice. The Steelers, 1068 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: I just watched this happen in Pittsburgh a thousand times. 1069 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: They don't lose two or three games in a row 1070 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: ever with Big Ben, and I think they'll probably bounce back. 1071 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: But the Raiders like they've gone up against one good 1072 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: defense after the next and kind of continue to show 1073 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: that they can produce points. It's the a f c 1074 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: S version of Rams Vikings. This week a huge game 1075 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: for the wild card race. There's a lot of good 1076 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,959 Speaker 1: wild card race. I would say the Bill's Dolphins fits 1077 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: into that. To this week. No one really criticized Ben 1078 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger for playing terrible again to the Bengals, and he 1079 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: had a meltdown, which if Andy Dalton had. Andy dald 1080 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a great fourth quarter either, but he collapsed 1081 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: at the end of that game. A lot of the 1082 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,959 Speaker 1: credit has to go to the Bengals, but a couple 1083 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: of those throws were just crazy throws and it makes 1084 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: you wonder. The first three weeks of the season, I 1085 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: would argue he was the best quarterback in the league, 1086 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: right behind Aaron Rodgers. And if he's not the same 1087 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: bend and you don't have Levian Belats. I mean, it's 1088 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: not the same team. It's not just a throws. He 1089 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,359 Speaker 1: had trouble escaping pressure because he's just not as mobile. Uh. 1090 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 1: You wonder how much that will change this week. He's 1091 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: got another week to get healthier, so we'll see. I mean, 1092 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown came alive on that first drive of the 1093 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: game and then didn't do much the rest of the way. 1094 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: But Heath Miller had a great game. They need to 1095 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: get more. Tavis Bryantens played fantastic too, which is which 1096 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: is a great sign for them, I thought. I mean, 1097 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: their defense played more than well enough to beat Cincinnati. Clearly, 1098 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: we're not all the ways sold on the Raiders yet 1099 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: because we went Steelers across the board as a group. Uh, 1100 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: but perhaps that will change after this week. Moving on, 1101 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons now travel to San Francisco UH to 1102 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: face the forty Niners and yes, quarterback Blaine Gabbert back 1103 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: on the grid of society, replacing Colin Kaepernick, who was 1104 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 1: benched by Jim tom Sewell. This week, Carolinas come back 1105 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: to Earth. They've lost two of three now, including UH 1106 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: last week. Their only win in the last three games 1107 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: was an uninspiring ten seven victory over Marcus Mariotta free 1108 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: Titans team UM one more noted Kaepernick foe I throw 1109 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: to you guys, Jim tom sul This was his explanation, 1110 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: Greg of why he made the decision to Ben's Kaepernick. 1111 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: H he wants Kaepernick to quote take a step back 1112 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,480 Speaker 1: and breathe and look at things through a different lens. 1113 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I know, I think I know 1114 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: exactly what it means. He this was a mercy benching 1115 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: that he what he watched last week was a guy 1116 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: so far in his own head and out of his 1117 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: depth that this is the the nice and correct and 1118 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: responsible thing to do as a coach. That was a 1119 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: tough That was one of the toughest games I can 1120 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: remember watching because he was that bad. It was one 1121 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: of the worst performances and seemed like it was in 1122 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: his head. When he misses throws, he's missing by a ton. 1123 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: And they schemed up perfect place for him on the 1124 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: first drive of the game, and that was really the 1125 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: only time him they could they could move the ball. 1126 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: He for a guy that was that high up, you 1127 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: had to bench him at this point because he just 1128 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: wasn't giving the team any chance to be competitive. I 1129 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: think also because looking at what's going on with their 1130 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: offense in general right now, that if you didn't want 1131 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: it to get that much worse for Kaepernick, you just 1132 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: want to take playing Gabbert and just toss him into 1133 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: the fire. Well that's what happened. I mean, you don't 1134 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: have a you don't have any healthy running backs. You're 1135 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: handing the ball off to nobody. You've just traded Vernon 1136 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,240 Speaker 1: Davis and the passing games a mess. Here comes playing Gabbert. 1137 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,839 Speaker 1: It's an astor and kin Bolden isn't practicing this week. 1138 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: Gabbert's a sacrificial lamp. You gotta you gotta feel bad 1139 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: for Gabbett a little bit that he was on a 1140 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: no win situation in Jacksonville. And listen, there's a very 1141 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: good chance he can't play at this level. There was 1142 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of anecdotal evidence pointings that. But now he's 1143 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: going the second chance to start with another franchise, no 1144 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: no chance in hell to be even decent on this 1145 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: teav This might be a worse situation than the jackson 1146 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: Evidence is not anecdotal, it's out there on the field. 1147 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 1: Every variety of evidence, all right. But I'm just saying, like, 1148 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: except m j D's anecdotal evidence that's true. It's you know, 1149 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 1: thinks that Blaine Gabbert's the best quarterback in the NFL history. No, well, okay, 1150 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 1: I think that he played with. He thinks he's gonna 1151 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: play well this week. He thinks he has a lot 1152 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 1: more potential than he than he showed. That's what MGD 1153 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: when he says almost that says my headline from the 1154 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: future for NFL Down was like, blame game Gabber. You 1155 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: know rises that I can't do. Though, But if he 1156 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,959 Speaker 1: when when m j says that, does he include Derek Carr, 1157 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: who he played with last year, that's a very odd statement. 1158 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: You're tight with m j D. You should ask him. 1159 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't think this is that bad of a spot 1160 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: compared to having to face the Rams or the Seahawks 1161 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: like they did the last two weeks. The Falcons have 1162 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: no pass rush. They're they're okay defense. They're not a 1163 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: great They're not a good defense. I would say they're 1164 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: a little below average. I mean, they're trying to talk 1165 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: yourself into being interested in this game, like the fort 1166 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,479 Speaker 1: like Blaine Gabbert's gonna lead them to victory. This would 1167 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 1: be my you know, last in my power rankings of 1168 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: games this week. So you're gonna give it to Connor, 1169 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: which you know, week after week Connor's gotten the Salute Stinker. 1170 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: He got the The Giant Saints Classic last Well, not 1171 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: because we knew it was going to be good, but 1172 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: yeah it was okay, it was better than some games 1173 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: on the board, Mark Mark. He likes to text me 1174 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: to find out what games he wants, and he'll always volunteer. Hey, 1175 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: give me the worst game that no one else wants. 1176 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: And you know what I usually do, I take you 1177 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: up on it. Well, no, I'll take one I like, 1178 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: and then I'll say get the second one. You just 1179 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: hand me some trash. Yeah, I take whatever you want 1180 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: to give me, Boss, give me the Jets and whatever 1181 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: you want. Well, that's no different than what I'm saying, 1182 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: lock me in for a game I want, and then 1183 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know part two. I guess it's the 1184 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: same thing. Moving on, listener has no idea what we're 1185 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: talking Greg has to deal with on games? What is 1186 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: Why did you give a little more explanation, Greg? Since 1187 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: you we've gotten into it, what do you why would 1188 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: anyone want to we're madmen who covered three football games 1189 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: at the same time. I have to sign out the 1190 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: games and like everything else. Yea, these guys have strong 1191 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 1: opinions on what they get what they don't get. Actually, 1192 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,040 Speaker 1: in this case, everyone generally cool. But I know, I know, 1193 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, one request a year. Everyone wants to get 1194 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 1: the good games. It's natural, of course. Moving on, the 1195 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: New York Giants atop the NFC East at four and four. 1196 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: Now they get the Tampa Bay Buccaneer is on the 1197 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: road in Tampa. You know, Tampa is three and four, 1198 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: and you know Jameis Winson is showing things on a 1199 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 1: week to week basis. This is now. It went from 1200 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago looking like a total nightmare scenario 1201 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: in Tampa to a situation, are they string together a 1202 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: few more wins and end up, you know, six to 1203 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: eight wins at at you know, at best, that's a 1204 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: successful season. Rights. Oh yeah, I think it's all about 1205 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback there. And you've got Doug Martin. Now they 1206 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 1: didn't pick up his fifth year option, but he's shown 1207 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: enough that they'll probably try to sign, try to resign him. 1208 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, they've got it. They've got a nucleus now 1209 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: because Jamis Winston does look like the real deal. They're 1210 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: they're a legitimate team. They're not good, but their defense 1211 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,479 Speaker 1: is no longer one of the five worst in the league. 1212 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it's It's not a good d fence, 1213 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: but it's respectable. They have a few playmakers on it. 1214 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: This is not a game where I look at Giants 1215 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Bucks and think one team is wildly more talented than 1216 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: the other. I think they're closer to even well. I 1217 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,840 Speaker 1: know that we disdain passer rating around here, but Winston's 1218 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: through seven games is the highest of any top overall 1219 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: pick in the Super Bowl era. And what it points 1220 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: to is the fact that after Week one, I thought, 1221 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: what is going on with Winston? This team looks like 1222 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: a massive disaster. He is not going to survive, and 1223 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 1: at this point in the season, it's just gotten better 1224 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 1: and better with every game. I give their cutter a 1225 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of credit that they look so professional. The offensive 1226 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: line was one of the worst in the league. They 1227 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: drafted a couple of guys and after struggling early in 1228 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the season, they're totally respectable. They did a nice job 1229 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 1: protecting the last few weeks. Do you think anybody calls 1230 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: dark cutter dark bag. Probably not. I feel like that 1231 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: would be like a pretty like a badass nick name. 1232 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: It is, and it's actually not a negative one. If 1233 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: you old dark bag and then he turns around like hey, 1234 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: what's up? Probably it's certainly like in middle school high 1235 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: school days, he was like, like when he's sixty, like, 1236 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: just call him that Odell update. You asked a couple 1237 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, what's wrong with him? Now? On pace 1238 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: for a hundred receptions d yards and fourteen touchdown. I 1239 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: want to ask you guys something. I've been getting some 1240 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: heat from some Giants fans, including one in the building 1241 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: that believes that I criminally under rate Eli Manning. I 1242 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: really think, if anything, I'm over racing. I have him 1243 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 1: as the number twelve quarterback for this season, and do 1244 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: you think he should be All Giants fans in history 1245 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: over rate Eli Manning. It's it's unreal. They think he's 1246 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: been better than Philip Rivers and Big Ben in his career. 1247 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: So you basically just tied this up so the scientists 1248 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: could bully Eli Manning, who just threw for three fifty 1249 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: yards and five times. That was That's why people were 1250 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: upset about it this week, and I said, well, watch 1251 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the games. They've been pretty bad. Previous weeks, 1252 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: they've been mediocre. Some of those games are situational too. 1253 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: It's not because that's Eli Manning in a nutshell throw 1254 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: five touchdown every game that was a weird game. He's 1255 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,439 Speaker 1: a game manager. They're trying to reduce his his he's 1256 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: better than a game manager from if you when you 1257 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 1: look back on his career, he is going to be 1258 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: statistically among the tops of every quarterback in his generation 1259 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: in terms of top five and every statistical character with 1260 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 1: at least okay, you could have a completion percentage with 1261 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 1: at least two Super Bowl rings. So to call to 1262 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 1: anybody that's quarterback, he's been a giant. Have no one 1263 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: to blame but themselves because they perennially overrate him so much. 1264 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: Well what you would overrate him too, if he if 1265 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: he brought your franchise two titles, and if you if 1266 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: you root for crappy teams. One thing that you get 1267 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: with Eli Manning and this is underrated. The guy has 1268 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: played every single game. I mean, that's really amazing comparability, right, 1269 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I Mean, that's nothing wrong with the number, being the 1270 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: number twelve quarterback in the league. You know there is 1271 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that's worth a lot. He's twelve, seems a lot though 1272 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: him tenantly? Are you putting him over Derek Carr this 1273 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: season though Matt Ryan Drew Brees, forget it. Why wouldn't 1274 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 1: he be about Matt Ryan this year? Ryan hasn't had 1275 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: a good year. I think Matt Ryan's had a better 1276 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: twelve as good as quarterbacks in their numbers, and what 1277 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: they're doing is higher by far than ever before. This 1278 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: year has been insane for passing. Just blocked those Giants fans? 1279 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: Are there actual humans though? I would like to block 1280 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: big shot Robbed? Oh yeah, well that's not fair. Uh yeah, 1281 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of fair. Uh. This is a we were 1282 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: split on this this this game. The Cessler Hansson or 1283 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,480 Speaker 1: All took the Bucks West and Patrick took the Giants. 1284 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, Kevin Patrick, we'll shoot first of all. 1285 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: Body sick as hell? Uh number two. He is number 1286 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: tied for second in the nation amongst national writers and 1287 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: pundits in picks, according to uh A website, with him 1288 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: and Chris Carter and Keyshawn Johnson or something. I don't know. Yeah, 1289 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. Yeah, Carter was definitely 1290 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: one of them. This is why I stayed out of it. 1291 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,080 Speaker 1: There's a steam rock named Patrick doesn't run and over 1292 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the Still you're afraid of the challenge? Yes, Greg, 1293 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking you should at least consider our idea 1294 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: of the burlap sack over your head while we do 1295 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: the picks portion of each Thursday show. I think you're 1296 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: gonna say the part where I am the picks whisper 1297 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: for Mark. By the way, you know I talked to Patrick. 1298 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Part of his lifting regiment is zero toxins in the 1299 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: body on any level, really, and so his mind is 1300 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: clear and he is killing a bunch of you know, 1301 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 1: beer adult football pickers. The rest of our group. I 1302 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: can't believe that that's true. It's probably not true. Moving 1303 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: on to another late game, the Denver bron Oh, this 1304 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: will be an interesting game, the Denver Broncos and Peyton 1305 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Manning who. Peyton looks to be putting it together a 1306 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: little bit and now he could set all times, all 1307 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: kinds of personal and NFL records in Indianapolis, the place 1308 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: where it all started against the Colts. Uh. You know this, 1309 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: all this seems to set up very poorly for Andrew Luck, 1310 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: who uh you know said had this to say this week, 1311 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: I feel healthy with no limitations. It's like Jesus that 1312 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: good news always supposed to say, Oh, he's fine physically. 1313 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: If you're the Cults, wouldn't you rather him beat hurt? 1314 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: And that would explain what's going on? And then he 1315 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: was limited with an ankle injury, so right, and so 1316 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: basically my point is he's not playing well as we know, 1317 01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: and now you get the best defense in the league 1318 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 1: coming into your building and Peyton and all the drama 1319 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: that comes with that bad spot for the carn you 1320 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: it looks like probably won't have t Y Hilton to 1321 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: take or at least there's a good chance that they're 1322 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: not gonna have t Y Hilton to take up one 1323 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: of those great cornerbacks. So I talked to the other 1324 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 1: show about what a low moment this is going to 1325 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 1: be for Jim Mercy to see Peyton Mane break records 1326 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: our show on Tuesday, not podcast, but thanks. On a 1327 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: side note, do you ever come up with an idea, 1328 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: uh for the podcast? And you're like, oh, I think 1329 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: I'll save that for the gentle Nicks show. Now, there's 1330 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 1: no crossover we just talked about nonsense. Um, imagine what 1331 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: what is the it's fans reaction going to be when 1332 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,919 Speaker 1: he let's say he obviously they're not going to cheer 1333 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: him breaking the wins record. That only happens at the 1334 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: final gun. But if he breaks the passing record in 1335 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: the middle of the late third quarter and then let's 1336 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: say the Broncos are up by sixteen at that point, 1337 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 1: do they give him a big standing ovation? I kind 1338 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: of think, and what a low moment that is. It is, 1339 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: but this isn't the black hole. I mean, this is 1340 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning is, you know, left with no ill 1341 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: will and they got Andrew Luck in his stead. I mean, 1342 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: that's not as we've been to Indianapolis for the Combine 1343 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: and for a Super Bowl. That's a that's those but 1344 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 1: it's not a nice town right now. That might be 1345 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: the most negative journalism town the situation that's going on 1346 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: in the whole country. I mean, the negativity and those 1347 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: are two different things. Though you're fair, that's that's fair. 1348 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: But I think that that must have infected the fans 1349 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: a little. They will give him a very big ovation 1350 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 1: because he is still beloved there and he's still active 1351 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: there and charities and and things that like, Peyton's a 1352 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 1: good dude, and they recognize and forget the touchdowns. They're 1353 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna be six interceptions in this game. WHOA, but all right, 1354 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: break and by them up. Well, I don't know how 1355 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna break down, but I just see six total 1356 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: because these specific they're throwing a ton of interceptions Manning 1357 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: and luck all season long. Luck it's only good when 1358 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: they're down by a ton of points. Mark. We really 1359 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: need to compliment the boss here, And of course I 1360 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: like this to forget the scientists heat. At this mid 1361 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: season awards column that he wrote earlier this week, you know, 1362 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 1: he pointed out that the Broncos win over the Packers 1363 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: was the most important game of the year so far, 1364 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,640 Speaker 1: the most telling game. And I thought the same thing 1365 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: when I rewatched it. The Broncos looked like a totally 1366 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,439 Speaker 1: different offense. Peyton Manning the best he's looked in a while. 1367 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: C J. Anderson looked like two thousand fourteen. C J. Anderson. 1368 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 1: This looks like a real balanced team now. And this 1369 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: is a team that is now in the Broncos playing 1370 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,880 Speaker 1: very fast, and that's what we would like to see 1371 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 1: out of this cold team. I do think it is 1372 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 1: what we will see out of this Rob Chadzinski as 1373 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator team. But that's that's what I was 1374 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 1: thinking watching that Denver game. Is they they really played quickly. 1375 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: If you noted the first three or four plays the game, 1376 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: they're getting a snap off with twenty five seconds left 1377 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: on the play cock play clock and they're going deep. 1378 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you They talked to about the fact 1379 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: that with Chud it's not gonna You're not gonna see 1380 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 1: Chud's fingerprints all over this offense this week. Maybe that's 1381 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: just nonsense, but they're gonna it's gonna take it longer 1382 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: than that for him to do what he wants to do, 1383 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: especially if t Y Hilton isn't on the field. Speaking 1384 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 1: of the Broncos defense from the Week nine research notes, 1385 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: this is the rhythm of nine. Ah, yeah, the rhythm 1386 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,720 Speaker 1: the n This is the The Broncos are allowing just 1387 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: four point one yards per play this season. That's not 1388 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: only the best in the NFL, but dating back to 1389 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: two thousand only, the two thousand eight Steelers held teams 1390 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 1: to fewer yards per play three point nine. Wow, that's impressive. 1391 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,560 Speaker 1: The two thousand eight Steelers, of course went on to 1392 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. This is and I think one 1393 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 1: of our now hits this week, Mark, you talked about, uh, 1394 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: the Broncos having a historic level defense. The numbers back 1395 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 1: it up. I wasn't correct it Marks Deluxe mid Season 1396 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Awards column. We should praise him for that. He made 1397 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the same point that they they were on par with 1398 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 1: the eight five Bears and two thousand Ravens. And then 1399 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano, having read your column, made a similar statement. 1400 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: Has Pagano red marks column? Yes, and then said that 1401 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: this defense is very reminiscent of the two thousand Time 1402 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 1: for Pagano to start focusing on more important elements of football. 1403 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: He wanted to get an update on Frank Signette. You 1404 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: think got a miller and where are good on grass? 1405 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Put him on that fast track in Indianapolis. Luck is 1406 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: going to be running for his life. We all took 1407 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos now to the primetime games Sunday Night Football, 1408 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles at the Cowboys NFC least showdown a three 1409 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 1: and four ft afhiliate outfit against the two and five 1410 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys last place. Yes, Mark Well I want to 1411 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: praise Greg because Greg just appeared on NFL Network to 1412 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 1: today and basically what I like the most about Greg's 1413 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: rather pristine hit was his slapdown of the NFC East. 1414 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Because I've just been saying this for a long time too. 1415 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: We all high this. No matter what this division does, 1416 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,759 Speaker 1: they get on prime time and it is tedious because 1417 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: I get that Chris and Now love these guys, but 1418 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: it is the same thing year after year Greg nailed 1419 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: in his hit good job, nice job boss. I just 1420 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 1: want to point out that we've been taping for over 1421 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 1: an hour now and you guys have relentlessly been praising 1422 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 1: of each other and defensive praising, being defensive about it. 1423 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,240 Speaker 1: I have not been praised once this entire show. Next 1424 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: that was starting to add I get first, I was 1425 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 1: letting it, you know, I wasn't even thinking about it. 1426 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 1: And now it's said, have you put a bow on 1427 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 1: a point where you just copied our points? I haven't 1428 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 1: read any of your features this week. Well, what I'm 1429 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,600 Speaker 1: saying is I have yet to write a feature this 1430 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 1: end Around on Friday that help end Around is my 1431 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: favorite article in the business. Thank you. That's all I 1432 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: was looking all Howard Gregg and marks supposed to take that. Well. 1433 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 1: Dan goes home. He has a praise chart on his 1434 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: wall and he at the end of each show he 1435 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 1: just marks little check marks. He's keeping track, you damn 1436 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,320 Speaker 1: right him. It's like the guys. It's like Steve and 1437 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: Billy Madison. No, it was being cool about it, but 1438 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 1: then once like the latest round of about it, it's amazing. 1439 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 1: It's like enough at a certain point, stop slapping each 1440 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 1: other on the back and if you're gonna do it 1441 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: ceaselessly for an entire show, get the old zeus are involved. 1442 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: Daniel made a great point. Thank you, there's number two. Um, 1443 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm now I'm feeling better anyway. So yes, Tony romo 1444 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: this week and return to practice throwing a little bit, 1445 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: but it will be Matt Castle again. And uh, you 1446 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think Chip can handle big day. 1447 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 1: I think that this is a game where the Cowboys 1448 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 1: will break their losing streak five games that will be 1449 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 1: over and the Eagles go into panic mode. Mark Sanchez 1450 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: start next week. Did the Cowboys? Did the Cowboys sign 1451 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: a new quarterback this week? No? I don't believe so. 1452 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 1: Matt Castle, I would you think that Matt Camsell is 1453 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 1: gonna win a football game because I think the Cowboys 1454 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 1: are do. I just think I don't. I don't like 1455 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: this Eagles team at all. I haven't liked them really 1456 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: for the past three years, but this team specifically, I 1457 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: think they're a flawed team with a bad quarterback, and 1458 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna catch up to him in primetime 1459 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: in a big spot. And I do think this will 1460 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 1: be the last straw. Another poor Sam Bradford performance will 1461 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: be one too many. I think the Eagles will win 1462 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 1: this division in the end because they have the only 1463 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: group in the entire division that I can trust, which 1464 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 1: is their defense. Out of the eight offenses or defenses, 1465 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles have something. At least they have 1466 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: a defense. And if you squinted really hard in that 1467 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,600 Speaker 1: Eagles Panthers game, you probably saw the best Sam Bradford's 1468 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 1: looked just about all solid, a solid game from him. 1469 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: There's seven or eight drops. He he did not really 1470 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 1: make any mistakes. He looked a little more comfortable in 1471 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 1: the pocket. And they get the bye week. Maybe, like 1472 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, a new quarterback and a new system. Maybe 1473 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: maybe that bye week will help us well and that's 1474 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: where with Sam Bradford, like he wasn't a complete disaster, 1475 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm not China. I would say the Cowboys are by 1476 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: far the best team in this division. Except here's the problem. 1477 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 1: You need Tony Romo. Well no, but no, no, but 1478 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: all right, you take any any team, you take their 1479 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 1: starting franchise quarterback, They're not gonna be the same. If 1480 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: if the if Romo were back this week, I would 1481 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I would take at Dallas to win this division. But 1482 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: week eleven is too late, and you're probably not wrong 1483 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: with the Eagles doing just enough. Isn't it still gonna 1484 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: be an eight and eight team that wins this thing? 1485 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: Nine and seven at most? Yeah? Greg spent the whole 1486 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: offseason basically hyping up Joseph Randel is the greatest running 1487 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 1: back of all time, and he is the goat. He's 1488 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: the goat because the Cowboys sent him out of the city, 1489 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: put all their sins on him, and everything's fine. Now. 1490 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 1: All the sins of the Cowboys rest on the goat, 1491 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 1: Joseph Randall. By the way, Randall, I'll hand mcfat and 1492 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,360 Speaker 1: have more yards than DeMarco Murray. Right. Yeah, all I 1493 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: said was he was a lot better and you're giving credit. 1494 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: He played five this year. Uh, what's he going now? 1495 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 1: He went crazy? That's a good question. What is Joseph 1496 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Rendle doing right now shopping at Dillard's Cessler and hands? 1497 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 1: This ball took the Cowboys or Wesley and Patrick took 1498 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles? Greg didn't take anything. Takes us to Monday 1499 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: night football. The Chicago Bears. Uh, you know, old one 1500 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 1: of the proud franchises in the league. So anytime you 1501 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: get the chance to watch him a prime time it 1502 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,519 Speaker 1: really makes you long for the days of Butt Kiss, 1503 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 1: Dick Gun and Walter Payton. I'm selling the game, guys. 1504 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 1: Uh no, of course, not makes you long for the 1505 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: days of Neil Anderson. They will face the San Diego Chargers. 1506 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Uh so this is a two and five team against 1507 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: a two and six team. I did my best to 1508 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: sell it. Now it's your turn, Settler. Well, this is 1509 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 1: a terrible game. Um. I'm not gonna hide behind any 1510 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: sort of I'm not gonna fake it. It's it's it's 1511 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,599 Speaker 1: it's These are the games that need to be flex 1512 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: That will be my point. It's the time of year 1513 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: where there's great matchups and we're stuck watching this one. 1514 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: I actually convinced Mark Mark over our slack uh instant 1515 01:14:54,680 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: message client that the NFL was pushed in this game 1516 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: hard as part of an initiative too. I don't know. 1517 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 1: I said something about the Los Angeles situation that didn't 1518 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: make any sense, and Mark volunteered to really to go 1519 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: down to San Diego for this game. He fell for it, 1520 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: hook line and sinking about two points. Number one, show 1521 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 1: absolutely a loyal employee to you and would have done 1522 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:23,799 Speaker 1: anything inclusive number two. I'm willing to believe any decision 1523 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: like that that comes down from the top at this point, 1524 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 1: even though I said in retort, if they want to 1525 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,799 Speaker 1: pump up the l a thing the Raiders in Chargers 1526 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,200 Speaker 1: played each other in prime time in Week sixteen, wouldn't 1527 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 1: that be a better fit? No, this is a better fit. Okay, Yeah, 1528 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: it really didn't make any sense, as if this game 1529 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 1: wasn't already bad enough. Keenan Allen out for the year, 1530 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: probably the most fun player on the Chargers to watch. 1531 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: Matt Forte is injured with an m c L. I've 1532 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,400 Speaker 1: got one guy to watch. El Sean Jeffrey was awesome 1533 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 1: last week and he's been good the last couple of weeks. 1534 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,040 Speaker 1: He's been fun to watch Jay Cutler running around and 1535 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 1: then just two Cutlers never throwing the ball up deep 1536 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: to outside, Jeffrey Ja Cutler throwing off his back foot 1537 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 1: every throw. I'm just saying that is the number one 1538 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 1: play in their playbook. And throw off your fade away, 1539 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: throw it up in the air. Hope something good happens. 1540 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Matt four tape looks like he's gonna miss a good 1541 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: night to rake your leaves in the dark. Y'all. We 1542 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: all took the Chargers in that game. And that wraps 1543 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 1: up our preview of all the week nine games. And 1544 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 1: I hope you learned a lot really too. I learned 1545 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,760 Speaker 1: um that we're all supportive co workers very much, um, 1546 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: except for towards Dan. Yeah, when it's it's okay to 1547 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: be supportive, but it's got to be spread out evenly. 1548 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,559 Speaker 1: If we had this podcast on Friday afternoons after your 1549 01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: end Around came came out, it would be NonStop plaudits Dan, 1550 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: And you know, it's like story in my life. By 1551 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: the way, check out the Around the NFL podcast on 1552 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,640 Speaker 1: iTunes where you can save reviews and ratings. We'll be 1553 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: doing that again. Uh, you know, reading the reviews, both 1554 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: good and bad. At some point in the uh yeah, 1555 01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 1: more acorns please, so check out of us a high rating, 1556 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: leave us comments and we will be eternally grateful. We'll 1557 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night. That is our flagship show 1558 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: where we will recap all the games that we just previewed. 1559 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 1: And that show is also on YouTube. You can check 1560 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: us out on YouTube at YouTube dot com, which is 1561 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: a very popular site on the Internet films. Our playlist 1562 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 1: on YouTube is in our Twitter profile. How about that? 1563 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Yeah, so follow us on Twitter at 1564 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Let's add around the NFL. This is 1565 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: Dan hands Us signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, 1566 01:17:33,320 --> 01:18:02,400 Speaker 1: the Boss La Side behind the Glass until Sunday s