1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Molli writes, my big mouth got me a contempt of 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: court charge. Spent three nights in Bear County three months 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: later on my child support to the sperm donor ex husband. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: We had joint custody, but he had a snake for 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: a lawyer. When Judge David Peeples asked me why I 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: didn't want to support my children, my Cuban Italian personality 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: took over. I cussed at the judge, my ex and 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the witch attorney that I do take Did I do 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: take care of my children? I'm just tired of taking 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: care of their loser father. Hard way to find out 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: there's no First Amendment protection in front of a judge. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: He called the bailiff and they took me away and 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: cuffs and shackles. I had never even skipped school. I 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: shared a cell with a prostitute and a woman in 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. I don't cuss 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: at authority anymore. I'malia. Amalia is a sweetheart. She married 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: to Santa Claus. They came on our Aspen trip last year. Betty, 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: what'd you end up in jail for? 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, actually, my husband, but I until I could call 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: him to me about that. So forty plus years ago, 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: there was a out in Alvin, the dance hall called 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: Crystal Cowboy, and we all went out as as high 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: schoolers and there's older people there too as well. But anyway, 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: I was not dating my husband at that time. But 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: he's a big guy. He's six foot four, just a big, 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: big guy. And I don't know what happened. I don't 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: think that he did anything, frankly, because he wasn't that kind. 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 2: But some guy, some Mexican guy, bumped him or something 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: and and then gave him a lip about it or something, 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: and I don't know. So they said let's go outside, 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: or he said let's go outside. So the guy goes 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: outside and they're on this Callechi Drive area, the Crystal 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Cowboy parking lot. The guy proceeds to get out of 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: pocket eye for a switchblade or something like that, and 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: some of them he didn't have anything at that time, 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: so he starts combing the rocks at him, just picking 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: up rocks this and that and anyway, longstret swords. The 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: police got him and took him both in, arrested both 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 2: of them and put him in the same sound. What's 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: funny is because my you know, husband's like I said, 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: a big guy and this is a little little strunting 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: little guy. And he basically told him he better just 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: watch out. And my husband proceeded just to go to sleep, 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: and uh, he said, he woke up. The guys still 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: sitting on the edge, just sitting on the chair, just 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: sitting there. Well, just minded his business, keeping to himself. 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: And so that's it. 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: That's a good story. You know, when I was growing up, 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I was mildly obsessed with switchblade knives, any kind of 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: blades for that matter, if they were illicit illegal. I 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: got in trouble in seventh grade because I set up 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: an operation. I was selling Chinese stars. You could. It 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: was some magazine I found him out of the back 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: of and I word three or so and for like 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: five dollars for three or something, and I was selling 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: them for ten dollars a piece in the bathroom during 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: the breaks. I don't know how long I expected this 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: was gonna work. Really didn't have the ability to scale 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: this business, but I was making a little cash and 60 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about it. And I get called down 61 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: in mister Johnson's office. I have to hand over the 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: contraband and I take my licks literally and that was 63 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the end of that thriving enterprise. It could have made 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: me famous and rich, but it didn't happen. But I 65 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: was always interested in switch blades. When I went down 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to Costa Rica when I was eighteen, bought a switchblade there, 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: carried it on me all the time, loved opening it. Oh. 68 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: Then I got into angel blades. Oh, it's hard to 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: get a good angel blade. That's where it comes out directly, 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of them when they come out and 71 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: lock you so much as if you had to stab somebody, 72 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: you're in trouble because they break off. But a lot 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: of those are not any good, and then they don't 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: reload on their own, and it's an imperfect process. They're 75 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: not really fixed. You need a fixed blade, at least 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: a fixed blade that pivots. And then they went and 77 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: made switchblades legal, and I lost interest in switchblades. You 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: can slug that segment switchblades. Jim John, you're on the 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Michael Berry Show. What landed you in jail? 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: Dancing on Crystal Beach and what happened so well? I 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: used just a little backstore. I used to go to 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: eighteen Mile Beach and dance there. I'd take a mattress 83 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: and lay out, and there was this big black cop. 84 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: I called him my friend, and he'd be John at 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: five o'clock and he'd go back to your car. I'd 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: be girls, don't want to talk to you, John, go 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: back to your car. I'm taking you to jail. So 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: then that closed down, and I'm at Crystal Beach and 89 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. If paddy Wagon just came 90 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 3: and put me inside and took me to jail. And 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: I just remember calling my dad. He's he fogged for 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: mosquitos at night. He came and got me and went home, 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: and everything got dropped because I wasn't drunk. There was 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: nothing there. I guess they just felt like taking me 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: to jail. 96 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Your dad drove the mosquito truck. 97 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: Well in Houston. He would drive around, uh, fogging for mosquitos. 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: He was like the head guy for Cypress Creek. 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: It was back, you know, in the nineties. And so 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: luckily he was up going home and he came and 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: got me, and I didn't even have to spend the 103 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: night in jail. Just a handful of hours. 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: That might have been him. Rodney Crawl was singing about. Yeah, man, 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I guessed to love when I was a kid when 106 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: the mosquito truck would come. That was good times, man, 107 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: that that was really Oh crap. I forgot to go 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: back to Mike. Jim. We lost, Mike. Don't let me 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: do that, Mike. If you're out there callback seven one, three, nine, nine, nine, 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: one thousand, I want to hear your first ree murder story. Joe, 111 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: what landed you in jail? 112 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: All right? 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 5: I was in jail in Kentucky. Me and a buddy 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 5: mine had went up to Cincinnati and made a friend 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 5: of his and we was on the way back to Atlanta. 116 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: I went to Cincinnati and was on the way back 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: to Atlanta. We had taken to the Oilers, one of 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: the last Oilers games in Pulton County Stadium against the Falcons. 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 5: So we're on our way back and I wasn't drunk, 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 5: but I was pretty hungover from the night before. And 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: I can't know what time it was in Kentucky. So 122 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 5: David had told me, he said, man, you need to 123 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 5: slow down. You're gonna get pulled on us. No, I'm 124 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: all right about one heel later, Man, here comes a 125 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 5: cop pulls me over rest me for DWI. I told David, 126 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: I said, go and take the truck going back to Atlanta, 127 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 5: and I'll meet you there when I get out of this. 128 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 5: So I sat in the jail for three days, got out, 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: went in front of the judge. He goes, you don't 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: plan on coming back to Kentucky, doah? I said, no, sir, 131 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: So he cut me loose. So I started hitch hacking 132 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 5: down eighty five and I get into Atlanta. I've got 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 5: a couple of rides. I had about ten bucks in 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 5: my pocket. So I went off this exit and was 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 5: walking to a store. And I stopped and I seen 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 5: a liquor store in a Shivron station, and I was 137 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 5: trying to figure out which one's gonna be cheaper. I 138 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: was gonna buy me a six pack of beer and 139 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 5: a fact of cigarettes. So as I'm standing there, I 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 5: looked behind me, and coming off the ramp, there was 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: a patrol car about five hundred yards away from me, 142 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 5: just kind of easing down the road. So I said, okay, whatever, 143 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: So I kept walking toward the Chevron station, and I 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: got probably one hundred yards from the Chevron station, and 145 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: about three cop cars just converged on me, jumped out, 146 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: drew their guns on me. He said, get on the road. 147 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: So I got down on the road. They handcuffed me. 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: I reverd one. 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 6: I'm go damn it. 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: We got him. 151 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: So they threw me in the car and I'm like, 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 5: what in the world are y'all resting me for? They 153 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: didn't say nothing. So we drove about five miles off 154 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 5: the highway to some little town. They took me in 155 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 5: this police station, put me in a room, and they 156 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 5: come in there and they started questioning me. Where are 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: you being, where are you going? And all this will 158 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: come to find out. A little town before that, some 159 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: two guys had roll. 160 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: We gotta go to break. Let me hold and Mike, Mike, 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: stay there. I'm gonna come to you just a moment. 162 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 7: This segment exclusively produced my Hawaiian Chad Nkanishi. Aloha bro 163 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 7: Ha The Michael Barry Show. 164 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, we got Mike back, and I'm glad we do. Mike, 165 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: first degree murder, tell me about the charge. 166 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 6: August twelfth of last year, a young man on the 167 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: drug called ice decided he wanted to bring a stick 168 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 6: to the gunfight. Will never work with this old man 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 6: seventy year old man in self defense shoots and kills 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 6: a man in the Walmart parking lot at six point 171 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 6: thirty in the morning. They take me downtown. I checked out, 172 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 6: didn't have a record and warrants or anything. Detective interviews 173 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 6: me for an hour, redraws it on a sketch pad. 174 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 6: Where was this guy at? He was down in the ditch. 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: He came up. He was gonna beat my ass that morning, 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 6: and I just said, not today, Satan, and pulled out 177 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 6: my Hinkley. My Hinkley is a twenty two Saturday Night special. 178 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 6: I'm a concealed handgun instructor by DPS. Well. They just 179 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 6: wouldn't believe me. They had photograph of where he dropped 180 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 6: the stick at from my front tire. I'm in my 181 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 6: truck and I shot him. It was a twenty two. 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 6: He kept coming. I pulled the trigger. It misfired. I said, 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 6: oh hell, I pulled the trigger one more time and 184 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 6: it turned him around. He walked about fifteen feet in 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: front of my truck and face planted pretty clear. I 186 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 6: kept I watched too much TV. I kept waiting for 187 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 6: one of the eighteen squad cars of SAPD to say sir, 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 6: you're free to go. Instead they handcuffed me. There was 189 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 6: a homeless woman that was going to come help straighten 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 6: up my storage. Turns out this kid on Ice in 191 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 6: his thirties and it was done. It's on the internet 192 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 6: on the local news station here. Of both one. I 193 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 6: went in eighty two days later of pure hell. One 194 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 6: day at a time in Bear County Jail, they decided 195 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: at ten o'clock on November the first next week be 196 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 6: my anniversary. They called out who we thought was my cellmate. 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: My public appointed attorney said her other client's been in 198 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 6: there two years waiting the same charge. So I couldn't 199 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: wrap my head around it until actually an inmate in 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 6: the jail came up to me and solved the problem. 201 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 6: Solved the whole what went on. The bigger mystery is 202 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 6: I did have an attorney. In last June, he slid 203 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 6: off the face of the earth up at the Kerbville flooding. 204 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: He and his father had a ranch and Andy was going 205 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: to take care of this Sandy Laird. And that's my 206 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 6: biggest mystery. He has slid off the face of the earth. 207 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 6: I hope he's okay. But on Friday night at ten 208 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 6: o'clock at night on November the first I get a call. 209 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: They said, we thought he said Patrick, my cellmate. He 210 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 6: went and got his stuff, walked out, came back fifteen 211 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 6: minutes later. He said, it's you charges dropped, lack of evidence. 212 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 6: What kind of evidence you guys need? You got the video, 213 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 6: you said on the newscast. You looked at the video 214 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 6: with the Walmart cameras, and it turned out this person 215 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 6: was high on ice And I knew that. I told 216 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: my court appointed attorney talks ecology report, inventory report, I 217 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 6: knew a lot. I've been dealing with these homeless people 218 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 6: on the south side of San Antonio for the last 219 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 6: couple of years. Well, I've tried to give the detectives 220 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 6: several chances to try and discuss why y'all got this wrong. 221 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 6: Totally wrong and totally I lit my world upside down. 222 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 6: And just now I'm getting back, you know, recovering from 223 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 6: that little mishap, misstep, and I'm on my way to 224 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 6: the Philippines. I've been trying for several years to get 225 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 6: to the Philippines, and I got cleared last week. So 226 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 6: it took me twelve lawyers to get Andy, who was 227 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 6: familiar or knew somebody to handle a false imprisonment charge 228 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 6: against the county and the state. So if you got anybody, 229 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 6: I'm not interested in the money. I'm interested in somebody 230 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 6: never having to go through the hell. And I've been 231 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 6: in the prison system with them without the keys, and 232 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 6: I've got a degree in criminal justice, and it's like, 233 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 6: you know, I don't see how this could be except 234 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 6: I had dealt with the detectives of SAPD earlier in 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 6: the year and they totally screwed up a simple steam case. 236 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 6: And it's like realized that our chief of police came 237 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 6: from many apples. That's all I need to say. His 238 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: name is McManus, and I'm used to the detectives from 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 6: the sixties and the seventies. My family was very good 240 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 6: friends with some of the top detectives. And I've lost 241 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 6: a lot of respect for our current training and common 242 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 6: sense more than anything. And there's a it's documented on there, 243 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 6: and I've got this reporter. Just let her know where 244 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 6: we are. And I've got one less than one year 245 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 6: left on the statue of limitations because they shouldn't be 246 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 6: able to just get away with this, and nobody just 247 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 6: you know, bad An eyelash. I had no big deal. Yeah, 248 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 6: it's a big deal. It cost me an e commerce 249 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 6: business I had for twenty four years. Documented had put 250 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 6: a million dollars. And by the way, I want to 251 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 6: get back with you because I've got a product. I 252 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 6: would like for you and I to turn it over 253 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 6: to Camp Hope. If you can have somebody from Camp 254 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 6: Hope contact me. I've got a chili quick that makes 255 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: chili which is a state dish of Texas in thirty 256 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: min minutes. And then we are getting into chili and 257 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 6: corn red season this very week in Texas. And you've 258 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 6: been on my mind this whole year of trying to 259 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 6: get you know, that handed off to them, so they've 260 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: got a perpetual income producer for the state of Texas. 261 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 6: And it's patterned after a product the most famous. Your 262 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 6: mama probably used it in your aunt's Kebhart's chili powder, 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: and I was fortunate enough to be able to duplicate 264 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 6: that when they discontinued theirs. And if you're over on 265 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 6: San Antonio, I'd like for you to stop buy I 266 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 6: told you years ago, come over here and I'll show 267 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 6: you a puffy taco and mister Yabari is one of 268 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 6: my favorite persons that you talk to, and he and 269 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: I come from the old school, and so it's like, 270 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 6: you know, so that's all right. I don't worry about it. 271 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: I've got a bigger mission. I'm going camping. I've been 272 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 6: camping my whole life, and I'm going to go give 273 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 6: it a whirl in the Philippine, in the jungles for camping. 274 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: So, Mike, what were you doing at the Walmart at 275 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: six thirty in the morning. 276 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: I had met a friend of mine at Bill Miller's 277 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 6: Carlos the evening before, and I needed a couple of tools, 278 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: like a saber saw, and he said I got to leave. 279 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 6: He said, I'll be at Walmart first thing in the morning. 280 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 6: I said how early? He said about six or six thirty. 281 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 6: And I picked up some coffee at water Burger. Homeless 282 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: girl walks off to me. It turns out this guy 283 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 6: that was going to beat my ass. After I got 284 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 6: out and she came back around, I said, let me 285 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 6: ask you something on that morning. I didn't think you'd 286 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 6: have had to sing. I had two ice chests in 287 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 6: my front seat, and this young lady was like thirty 288 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: eight thirty nine years old, and she I just didn't 289 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 6: think he saw her. He was down in the ditch. 290 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 6: Turned out he had threatened me back in May. And 291 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: that didn't make any sense that somebody just rode up 292 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 6: on a bike right on the poll. 293 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 7: The King of Team continued on the Michael Ben. 294 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Mike, Yes, sir, I have a question. 295 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: Yes, how come. 296 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: You knew the guy that was on ice that you 297 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: shot at six point thirty in the morning. 298 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 6: The girl that was when he hollered at me from 299 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: the ditch. He looked like Bigfoot for me, had face 300 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 6: hair all down in front of his face. I looked 301 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: over to her, I said, who is that? She said, 302 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 6: that's light. I said that same pos that was giving 303 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 6: you a hard time a couple of weeks ago. She said, yep. 304 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: And she's a homeless lady. 305 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: Yes, from Mississippi. 306 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: And how do you know her. 307 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 6: I've been dealing with the homeless for two years over 308 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: here on the South Side, helping people that need something 309 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 6: to hand up, hand out. And there was a settle 310 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: there's about six acres next to this walmart. It was woods, 311 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: ten to fifteen people living back there. They didn't have 312 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 6: a clue about camping. I mean the heat was killing them. 313 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: This is July August of last year, and just taking 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: people ice water to this day, I go to Bill 315 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: Miller's here and get ice and go around during the 316 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 6: hottest part. And so that's what I've been assigned the 317 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 6: last couple of years, and it turned out where it's 318 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: been one of the most rewarding things I've ever done. 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 6: And then for this guy, you know, and he was 320 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: definitely high on ice. I know who he got the 321 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 6: ice from. I knew what they could expect to find 322 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 6: in his backpack. And so it's like, well, you know, 323 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 6: like my sister says, you have the best chapters. It's like, yeah, 324 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 6: but I don't plan on them. That's just just the 325 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 6: way it happened. 326 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Now on the chili, is this a chili powder? 327 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 6: It is what it is is. I was blessed to 328 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 6: have a part of Fiesta Spices over here in say Antonio. 329 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: Back in the day, we grew up with something called 330 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: geb Hearts or Mexine. All Texas families grew up with 331 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 6: one of those two chili powders. And it turns out 332 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: geb Hearts just continued. They were brought out by Conagar 333 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 6: thirty years ago. Canagara wanted hunt Lesson and GiB Hearts 334 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 6: is still the most famous known chili powder. So I 335 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: took this by sheer accident. I've used these Fiesta spices 336 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: for forty years and I decided, well, let's just try 337 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 6: and make a batch of it. And all I do 338 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 6: is get it at a hotel price and blended in 339 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: small batches. And there's no more three hours of babysitting 340 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 6: a pot of chili that can be done in thirty minutes. 341 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: And so I've tried. I had worked with a young 342 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 6: chef last year, hand off to him. It didn't work out, 343 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 6: and I decided, you know, there's a couple. This is 344 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: too good of a product not to be known. And 345 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 6: I thought, you know, if you'll have somebody with camp 346 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 6: David get a hold of me, we'll get it coordinated 347 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: and I'll get them the armula of the whole bit. 348 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: And it's it's something that you know, It's just it's 349 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 6: a winner. There's no game. There's not a good can 350 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 6: Shelley out there. I tried Marie Calendars this week and 351 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 6: at three bucks a can, it's hard to distinguish the 352 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 6: three pieces of meat that were in there, you know, 353 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 6: But it's something that can be done. You know. I'll 354 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 6: sent you a link over there and you got my 355 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 6: phone number now, and then you can google the news 356 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: story on the shooting and everything. Yeah, the perpetual. If 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 6: you want to talk about Tomlly's I've written a cookbook 358 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 6: twenty five years ago, Secrets to Cooking text Mex taught 359 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 6: you years ago what makes refried beings great? And that's 360 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 6: the lord or the bacon grief. 361 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: That's a lot to process, mate, I know a lot 362 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: of the process. You know. You reminded me of something 363 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: with that spice recipe. Every couple of years, I'll see 364 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: this mean that's a picture of a bottle of a 365 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: one steak sauce, and just above the A one it's 366 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: a period or a dot one dot, a period, one dot, 367 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: and just above that in small letters, it says e St. 368 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Eighteen sixty two, Established eighteen sixty two. And there's a 369 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: meme that I'll see once every year or two and 370 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: it says, right in the middle of a Civil war, 371 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: somebody said, oh, you know what, we need a steak sauce. 372 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: And I've always thought that really is crazy, isn't it. 373 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: I bet you it's a provisions company that was making 374 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: provisions for the Union soldiers because the South didn't have 375 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: a money. So I went and looked it up this weekend. 376 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: Lo and behold. The reason a one steak sauce was 377 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: established in the middle of the Civil War is it wasn't. 378 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: But even if it was, it's English. Was actually started 379 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: in eighteen thirty one, started by a guy, and then 380 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 1: it gets sold. They use the date of eighteen sixty two, 381 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: but that's not the accurate date of the sauce itself. 382 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: And then the sauce comes over to the United States 383 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: much later, like I think eighteen nineties. And the thing 384 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: about it is I hadn't eaten a one steak sauce 385 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: in forever. And one night Russell Lebar and I met 386 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: for dinner at Papa Steakhouse and he asked them to 387 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: bring him a Ramican the little silver you know like 388 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Aladdins now of a one steak sauce. And the guy said, oh, 389 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we don't have that. Russell said, well, I 390 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be unpleasant here, but I'm the customer 391 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: and I'm requesting it, and you do have it. No, sure, 392 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: we don't. Let's I tell you what why don't you 393 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: ask your manager to come out and I'll tell him 394 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: where it is. I have toured your kitchen. I'm friends 395 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: with Chris Pappus, and I'm not trying to cause a 396 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: scene here, but I really like a one steak sauce. 397 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: First he asked for a one They said we don't 398 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: have it, and he said, yeah, you do. I always 399 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: get it, and it's not a big deal. Not trying 400 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: to embarrass you or cause the problems. So eventually they 401 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: bring the a one steak cut sauce out and a 402 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: silver Remican, so you don't know what's in it because 403 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: they're embarrassed to serve a one steak sauce. And so 404 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: we had a good laugh about it, and I hadn't 405 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: eaten it in forever anybody. A year later, I don't 406 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: know what what was the reason there was some a 407 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: one steak sauce. I must have been eating some cheap 408 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Mexican steak, you know, like if you go to Roucci's 409 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: there's a couple of them around time. It's a real 410 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: cheap skirt steak wherever I was. Whatever the reason, maybe 411 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: it was a Hamburger steak, it was just a or 412 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: cube stak, just a patty or something. I don't know, 413 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: but there was some A one there, and so I 414 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: poured a little out on the side there, and I 415 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: forgot how much I love it. It's really really good 416 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: as a steak sauce, just as a sauce for anything. 417 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's better than Worcester Sire, I 418 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: really do so. Anyway, I looked up the ingredients. Let's 419 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: see here, I got it here. It's got all sorts 420 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: of cool stuff in it. You would not expect, Jim, 421 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: do you know what goes on into a A one? We 422 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: might as well being chobren just everything else. Let's see tomatoes, garlic, 423 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: crushed oranges, and an intricate mix of spices. Oh, don't 424 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: give me that hold on the side. Let me see 425 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: this thing's got it over here. Let's see tomato pure 426 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: water and tomato paste, high fruit toase, corn syrup. I 427 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: don't need that vinegar, corn syrup. Raisin paste. Who would 428 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: think about raisin paste. I'm gonna get a bunch of emails, Michael. 429 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: Raisin paste goes into forty three different things. Here's here's 430 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: raising well. I didn't know, Michael, how could you raisin paste? 431 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: We use? 432 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I use razor. I've used raisin pa my grandmother there 433 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it is niche wide, Eddie Martini writes. Eddie Martini writes, 434 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: I love a one steak sauce. What makes it great 435 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: is the xanthem gum as a thickener. I wonder if 436 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: you lose your coon ass card for saying like a one, right? 437 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: Doesn't that feel like something bit that would cost you 438 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: your coon ass card? You think, right, you'd have you'd 439 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: be required to like because you know there's a coon 440 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: ass product that they will say, Oh, slappy, Marma, this 441 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: is a one. There has to be. I mean, I 442 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what the competitor would be, 443 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: but all right, what land did you in jail? Before 444 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: we get to that, a word from our sponsor, the 445 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: senior senator of the state of Texas, who last year 446 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: called for Donald Trump not to run for reelection, told 447 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the Republican Party to move on past him and held 448 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: a press conference where he told members of the press 449 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump has passed his prime and should not 450 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: run and the party should not choose him. But now 451 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: a matter of months later, he tells us that they're 452 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: working side by side and best friends and you know, 453 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: just god, they boy, they are. They are the best 454 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: of buds. And and you should send him back because 455 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: because they're the they're the best of buds. Well, it's 456 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: deer season upon us, and old John Wayne mccorny is 457 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: replacing his backwards hat, which was the ad he's been 458 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: there down on the border. Hey, I like Mexican's around here. 459 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: We haven't seen any Okay, let me know. I'm on 460 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: the border now. You notice I got my ball cap 461 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: turn backwards, right, Yeah, that's how you know I mean business. Yep. 462 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Going to a Morgan Walling concert later, I got my 463 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: cap turns backwards. Yep. I'm down here on the border. Hey, Mexicans, 464 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: y'all still there? Senior center right here, real Texan. Well, 465 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: he's traded in his backwards cap for some camo and 466 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: he's here to tell you he's a real Taxan, a 467 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: man he hunts and gathers just like you. 468 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 7: John Wayne mccarnin. He's one of us getting ready for 469 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 7: deer season, with a media crew close by to document 470 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 7: his every move. He's a multitasker, loading both his Grandpappy's 471 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 7: rifle and a big dip in his mouth, because, by golly, 472 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 7: that's what he's told Texans do, and he's ready for 473 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 7: deer hunting season the back forty, just like one of us. Heck, 474 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty four he hunted shoulder to shoulder and 475 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 7: the deer blind with Donald J. 476 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: Trump. 477 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 7: And he has the two dozen thirteen by twenty four 478 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 7: giant picture frames pepper throughout his hunting cabin to prove it. Why. 479 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 7: Just last year, John Wayne mcconny shot a fifteen point buck, 480 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 7: had his ranch hands field dress it, and personally asked 481 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 7: his thirteen assistants to ship that sweet backstrap meat directly 482 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 7: to Donald J. Trump, all while listening to Waylon Jennings' 483 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 7: laratest tits. He's just like one of us, John Wayne mccornyy, 484 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 7: a man working so hard to be a man of 485 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 7: the people. 486 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: Mcconne, All right, we gotta be quick. What land did 487 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: you in jail? Cody go? 488 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 8: This is actually a story about my grandpa. He back 489 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 8: in the late nineties, maybe early two thousands, he had 490 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 8: a hunting cabin out in bass Drop and showed up 491 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 8: there one day and somebody had broke in, stole everything, 492 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 8: all the food, the ovens, the little cooking stove. He 493 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 8: had his TV, so he uh restocked everything, had to 494 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 8: buy all new equipment to put in his cabin. And 495 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 8: then he decided to wire up a four to ten 496 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 8: shotgun close to the door for the next time if 497 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 8: the person came back to try to steal anything else. Well, 498 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 8: it turns out there's laws against setting booby traps. Yeah, 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 8: so when this guy got a he got a load 500 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 8: of birds shot in his legs when next time he 501 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 8: came through. 502 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Your grandfather's last name is not CatCo, is it? 503 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 8: No? 504 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a famous case. Every every ut law student 505 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: studied it in Torts. First year CATCOA and he set 506 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: a spring gun. He had a hunting cabin. He got 507 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: tired of it being broken into, and so he sets 508 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: a spring gun and somebody breaks into his cabin and 509 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: it shoots him. And the question was is it reasonable 510 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: to set up a system where there is no discretion used? 511 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Because someone could have a police officer could have believed 512 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: that someone was inside and needed help, they would have 513 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: gotten shot her firefighter? Was that was the standard? Anyway? 514 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: What was a reasonable action for cat Co to take? 515 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: And I think cat Co lost that tape. I think 516 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: it was in Torts. So I don't think it was 517 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: actually criminal. If I recall correctly, Rich, what got you 518 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: landed in jail? 519 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 7: Go? 520 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: I was bartending on North Gate when I was going 521 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: to Texas A and M most nights, my shirt always 522 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: came off, and if I broke out, I dumped the bar. 523 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: I grabbed a guy and started dragging him out as 524 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: his chubby girlfriend was hitting me in the head with 525 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: a shoe. As soon as I get one foot outside 526 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 4: the bar with that guy, I get pepper sprayed, maced. 527 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: I get down on all fours, try to crawl back 528 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: into the bar. They grab my belt, arrest me, take 529 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: a polaroid picture, take all my items, staple the polaroid 530 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: picture of the bag, take me down, and then I 531 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 4: get mailed out by the owner of the bar. The 532 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: police reports that I was hitting the person I brought 533 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: out of the bar. I told him I had video, 534 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: brought the video up and they said, oh, well, I 535 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: guess it was a mistake. But the worst part about 536 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: it is if you ever do get maced, do not 537 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 4: go to the restroom and touch your winger because that hurts. 538 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, is that what you did? 539 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 7: Yes? 540 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: And water does not make it go away. It actually 541 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 4: makes it burn more. 542 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: How long did it burn? 543 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: Oh Man? Throughout the entire evening and every time I 544 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: took a shower for the next week. 545 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: You're willy or your eyes. 546 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: On my face mostly? 547 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, good thing you didn't wipe your bum hunh. 548 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I was going to touch that 549 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: after I felt the heat on my pecker. 550 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: I've never been maced pepper sprayed, but I have heard 551 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: from people who have it is some kind of not pleasant. 552 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I like to try bear spray on something at some point. 553 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: When I'm hiking in Colorado, I carry bear spray, and 554 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm like a kid. My brother used to say this. 555 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: He never wanted me to buy a new gun because 556 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: he said, you you are not a responsible person to 557 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: have a gun. You don't need to be carrying a 558 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: gun because when I carry my bear mace, I keep 559 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: waiting on a bear to come up on me because 560 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to try out my bear mace, right, And 561 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: so I bought one. I bought one just to see, 562 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: you know what the stream looks like. I'm the guy 563 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: that loves Bengal spray, the wasp spray. I don't know 564 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: how raid stays in business. Bengal is one hundred times better. 565 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: But you put bingo near a roach or what anything. 566 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: Bengal kills everything. I love to spray Bengal and kill stuff, 567 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: and I don't want to kill a bear. I love bears, 568 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: but I've bought can you know, just see how long this? 569 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 1: But I would like a bear to just come ambling 570 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: up and me hit him with it, just so I 571 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: know what it does. Probably not a good strategy, but 572 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm being honest. You don't have to email 573 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: me and tell me how stupid it is. I know 574 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, you don't win a prize for you know, 575 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: intelligence for that opinion. I'm being honest, right, This was 576 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: today was the Circle of Trust