Speaker 1: Smart ovens with a mind of their own. Google makes
Speaker 1: a big change to one of its nest camps, all
Speaker 1: in the name of privacy. An airline tries VR in
Speaker 1: the Skies. We've got a special guest coming up, my boss,
Speaker 1: and as usual, I'm answering your pressing tech questions. What
Speaker 1: is going on? I'm rich Deimiro. This is Rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: This is the podcast where I talk about the stuff
Speaker 1: I think you should know about happening in the tech world. Plus,
Speaker 1: like I said, I answer your tech questions, and believe me,
Speaker 1: you are not shy about sending me your questions. But
Speaker 1: I will tell you you are always surprised when I
Speaker 1: write you back. Joining me fresh from Hawaii producer Megan Aloha.
Speaker 2: Hello, I was gonna say it, but you already did so.
Speaker 1: You told me when you were in Hawaii you felt
Speaker 1: like you realized you had an addiction to social media.
Speaker 3: Tell me about that. What made you think that? Well?
Speaker 2: So soh My sister she like from the start of
Speaker 2: the trip, she was like, I'm not going to use
Speaker 2: my phone the entire trip, and she truly barely did.
Speaker 3: Like she went on, and your sister is how old
Speaker 3: she is?
Speaker 2: Eighteen?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: That's impressive.
Speaker 2: But then there was me and I like noticed that
Speaker 2: I was like so on my phone all the time,
Speaker 2: and she just was like chilling. And it's funny because
Speaker 2: at the end of the trip, I was like, so, Katie, like,
Speaker 2: how do you feel, like you know, did that make
Speaker 2: a change for you at all? And she was like, honestly, like,
Speaker 2: I'm just like not really obsessed with my phone to
Speaker 2: begin with, so like she didn't, but like I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: so now I I gotta do that.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Yeah. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: So I've realized, because I do this my wife sometimes,
Speaker 1: that when you don't use your phone as much, you
Speaker 1: actually notice how much someone else is using their phone.
Speaker 1: So in my house, I try my best not to
Speaker 1: use my phone between five and seven pm. Very tough sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I noticed when I'm not using it, I get
Speaker 1: very angry at the folks around me using their phone.
Speaker 3: So is your sister getting angry?
Speaker 2: I think? I mean, I feel like that's totally possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she probably just like noticed how often I was on
Speaker 2: it because she wasn't on hers. But then again, I
Speaker 2: think that it like, you know, you're on vacation, you're
Speaker 2: like in Hawaii and you're like, oh, like, what's this
Speaker 2: person doing? Oh Italy, Well, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: I don't exactly like enjoy.
Speaker 2: You gotta enjoy, So it's tough.
Speaker 3: There's no easy answer. There's no easy answer.
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas over the weekend, by the way,
Speaker 1: after New York, I went to Vegas, and I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm mentioning that. I'm just mentioning it because
Speaker 1: I had the time. It was great, it was fantastic.
Speaker 1: And I will say that I was on my phone,
Speaker 1: but not as much you probably saw. I did do
Speaker 1: one I love doing I love doing this that you were, well,
Speaker 1: like this the instagrams that I posted like this, I
Speaker 1: love doing this. Sometimes I love doing the standard instagrams,
Speaker 1: like I did the flames at Benny Hanna like you.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Anyway, all right.
Speaker 1: Let's get into our first story, because enough about us.
Speaker 1: There is tech news happening, yes, and Google is doing
Speaker 1: something that I got this email yesterday, and I was
Speaker 1: a little taken aback because I'm totally for privacy, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, I do believe that as a consumer,
Speaker 1: we should be in charge of the gadgets that we
Speaker 1: buy and have the most options. So what Google is
Speaker 1: doing is they are removing the ability to disable the
Speaker 1: light on your Nest Cam. The light there's always a
Speaker 1: status light on your Nestcam that you can previously turn
Speaker 1: off in your settings because, for instance, in my kid's room.
Speaker 1: I remember when my kid was little, I put the
Speaker 1: Nestcam in his room and he didn't like the lights
Speaker 1: coming out of it, and so I turned off the
Speaker 1: status light. Now there's other lights, like infra red lights
Speaker 1: that kind of like help illuminate the room in the dark.
Speaker 1: I couldn't really do much about those, and they were
Speaker 1: kind of scary, but I played it off to him like,
Speaker 1: no big deal.
Speaker 3: Those scary red lights like the stars, No biggie.
Speaker 1: So you cannot change turn the light off at this point.
Speaker 1: So now the light will be on the whole time.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is they're taking it to another level.
Speaker 1: When someone is actively viewing the video from the camera,
Speaker 1: the light will be blinking. So imagine you're at someone's
Speaker 1: house and you're in their living room and you see
Speaker 1: the light blinking on that thing.
Speaker 3: You're like, uh, who's watching me right now?
Speaker 2: So creepy, but I like it.
Speaker 1: But it's less creepy than before when you didn't know
Speaker 1: if a camera was active. Obviously, anytime a company makes
Speaker 1: a big change like this, and this affects Nest cams,
Speaker 1: Nest Hello, and also Drop cams, which are the older
Speaker 1: Nest cams, anytime someone makes a change, people are gonna
Speaker 1: be up in arms. And one of the points I've
Speaker 1: read is quite valid. They're saying that potential burglars will
Speaker 1: be aware when a camera's active. Maybe you just have
Speaker 1: a nestcam that's old and it's not activated anymore, and
Speaker 1: you just have it at your doorway or in your
Speaker 1: house and you're a thief and you come in there
Speaker 1: and you go, a ha, I know this thing's not
Speaker 1: working because the status light's not on.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's a stretch. No, that's a total stretch.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's one of the it's a
Speaker 1: concerned So I have a nestcam in a couple of
Speaker 1: my house and last night I told my wife said, oh,
Speaker 1: do you notice that the light is on?
Speaker 3: And she goes, and I love my wife for the stuff.
Speaker 3: She goes. I thought it was always on, and I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm a dead guy, guy, I know.
Speaker 3: Oh whoops strong Uh oh there we go. Oh there
Speaker 3: we go. Okay, so I did get it. I'm not
Speaker 3: even gonna go ahe no.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, So I'm actually going to be reading a
Speaker 2: You got an email from someone who started Visible. This
Speaker 2: is from Pamela Sanchez. She said she wanted to switch
Speaker 2: to another cell phone carrier and she's so glad that.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm so glad I got to see info
Speaker 2: you provided for Visible. Long story short, I switched. I
Speaker 2: have one month with them and no complaints so far.
Speaker 2: It's fast, better reception, and most importantly, I am saving money.
Speaker 3: So love it. Yeah, I love it. I know. Here's
Speaker 3: the thing.
Speaker 1: Anytime I do a story on KTLA, there is an
Speaker 1: immediate interest in what I talk about because we reach
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: I love that aspect of my job.
Speaker 1: The other side of my job is that I go
Speaker 1: to sleep every single night scared to death that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say or do something that is in some way
Speaker 1: going to harm someone.
Speaker 3: And that means when I.
Speaker 1: Talk about Visible and this forty dollars plan, I have
Speaker 1: done as much homework as I can. I tried it out,
Speaker 1: I didn't sign up myself, but I got them to
Speaker 1: send me a phone with a SIM. I did all
Speaker 1: the research, I interviewed the CEO twice. As far as
Speaker 1: I can tell, it was great. Yeah, but still you're
Speaker 1: going to have those people. And I got a lot
Speaker 1: of emails from people saying, Rich I couldn't activate my phone.
Speaker 1: Rich I had a problem that and all of them.
Speaker 1: Of course, I got in touch with Visible to like
Speaker 1: make sure we resolve them. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I sit there and I go, was it something that
Speaker 1: I did wrong? Ninety nine percent of the time it
Speaker 1: was a small error on someone's part, you know. And
Speaker 1: the other thing about Visible specifically is that they were slammed.
Speaker 1: And a lot of these companies that I cover, they
Speaker 1: do get because sometimes it's not just me covering them.
Speaker 1: In the case of Visible, even though we had one
Speaker 1: of the most prominent stories on them, other places cover
Speaker 1: them as well because it's a great deal.
Speaker 3: So all the tech.
Speaker 1: Media is covering them. So I love hearing this email.
Speaker 1: That is a good one. And I got a lot
Speaker 1: of positive stuff from the Visible. I got some negative,
Speaker 1: but most of those negative things we were able to
Speaker 1: work through.
Speaker 3: No one told me that it was a scam.
Speaker 1: No one said, rich, I signed up for forty bucks
Speaker 1: a month, guess what my bill is eighty?
Speaker 3: No one said that.
Speaker 1: People said, oh, my phone wasn't activated, or I didn't
Speaker 1: get the SIM card the next day like they said,
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone actually said that, but.
Speaker 2: Well, it just goes to show how much work and
Speaker 2: effort you put into like these stories like it. You know,
Speaker 2: you want to hear that, but obviously you have to
Speaker 2: like check your facts and make sure it's real.
Speaker 1: And legit and not everything's going to be perfect for
Speaker 1: everyone totally. Another example was Lumen, Well was a lumin thing.
Speaker 4: So we did a.
Speaker 2: Story about the app for people over the age of fifty,
Speaker 2: and you got an email from someone who said that
Speaker 2: there are a lot of.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, scam artists exactly.
Speaker 1: But that's the reason why we did the story, because
Speaker 1: the whole point of it is that they are trying
Speaker 1: to avoid the scam artists. In fact, I was reading
Speaker 1: another article today about Luman. Someone else wrote an article
Speaker 1: very similar to ours, so kind of interesting. This was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We went to the first car
Speaker 1: vending machine in California, located in Westminster. This is from
Speaker 1: a company named Carvana. I've heard of this company. I
Speaker 1: considered selling my car to Carvana, and I did not.
Speaker 1: I end up going to CarMax, which now I feel
Speaker 1: so bad and you regret it, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: I just got seven hundred dollars less by going to Carmacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and instead of Carvana. But I was impatient and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to go there, and it was something that
Speaker 1: I knew. I had done CarMax three times before, so
Speaker 1: I knew what the deal was with CarMax. Carvana seemed
Speaker 1: too good to be true. And so what Carvana does.
Speaker 1: They're online buying and selling website. You can buy cars
Speaker 1: on there in as little as ten minutes. But here's
Speaker 1: what they do that's kind of interesting. They have these
Speaker 1: car vending machines in about twenty different cities across America.
Speaker 1: And when I've seen the commercials for these things and
Speaker 1: the website all this stuff, I always thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of like, give me a break, Is this real?
Speaker 3: Is this totally a publicity stunt?
Speaker 1: Like do people really put this giant, oversized coin into
Speaker 1: this vending machine and get a car out at the end. Yes,
Speaker 1: they do, and there's good reason for this. The reason
Speaker 1: why Carvana does these vending machines is because, think about it,
Speaker 1: they're an online website that delivers cars to people's homes.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of expense. I was driving back from
Speaker 1: Westminster yesterday. Imagine that they had to do a delivery
Speaker 1: to my place in LA You're talking an hour and
Speaker 1: a half to get up there and then an hour
Speaker 1: and a half to get back. So it really does
Speaker 1: make sense if I'm sitting there and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: I can go to Westminster on a Saturday morning at
Speaker 1: nine am and pick up my car with my wife.
Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. And the kid see this giant
Speaker 1: machine in action.
Speaker 2: It's an experience.
Speaker 1: It is what you went up on it before I did,
Speaker 1: because I'll admit, since since you know you press played
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I was a little hesitant in going
Speaker 1: up in this eight story building.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's this giant eight story building that holds thirty cars.
Speaker 1: It's seventy two feet high, which doesn't sound high at all,
Speaker 1: by the way, No, but but when you're up there,
Speaker 1: it did right well.
Speaker 2: When we got there, I was like, oh, I wonder
Speaker 2: if we can you know, go up in the you
Speaker 2: know in it and you were like, no, there's no way.
Speaker 3: That's what I was like.
Speaker 2: The first thing they said, we're gonna go up like
Speaker 2: you guys are going to get to see you know,
Speaker 2: the top, and I was.
Speaker 3: I got so excited.
Speaker 2: I thought it was so cool.
Speaker 1: There were way too many moving parts for that to
Speaker 1: be a safe operation for us.
Speaker 2: Was there so safe though? I thought it was so safe.
Speaker 1: It was basically up and down and it spun around. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was really cool. Yeah, I'm glad I went up.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I went up and four. No, that was
Speaker 1: just for the that was just for the look for
Speaker 1: the Facebook thing. I went up all the way when
Speaker 1: I did the KTLA.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: In fact, I was a little mad that they didn't
Speaker 1: put me all the way up for the Facebook live
Speaker 1: thing I did or live to tape. Oh got it,
Speaker 1: because I couldn't say, hey, can we go up higher?
Speaker 1: Or I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2: Probably choose it was really hot too, that it was
Speaker 2: very hot, Yeah, because it's in a glass like but
Speaker 2: really cool.
Speaker 1: And I will be honest right now, I'm saving up
Speaker 1: for a tesla as we speak.
Speaker 3: Is that a quarter over by? You? Can I have that? Oh? Yeah, here,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm saving up for a Tesla as we speak, and
Speaker 1: I will be honest, I think maybe I'll just buy
Speaker 1: it used from Carvana, save a couple thousand bucks, and
Speaker 1: I now that I know the company. Whenever I meet
Speaker 1: someone from a company and I know them and I
Speaker 1: get to see them and kind of talk to them
Speaker 1: a little bit off camera, there's either an immediate trust
Speaker 1: I have with them or immediate distrust I have with them.
Speaker 1: And this company I got immediate trust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you not trust?
Speaker 1: I'm not naming names, I'm just giving okay, But there
Speaker 1: are some companies that I've done stories with where I'm like, nope,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to do business with this company.
Speaker 1: I will feature you, but I'll feature it in a
Speaker 1: way that I'm making sure I'm not showing any sort
Speaker 1: of endorsement. Like sometimes you have to cover stuff because
Speaker 1: they're in the news totally. It doesn't mean you have
Speaker 1: to sort of be behind it.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right. So our next question comes from Lee Mitchell.
Speaker 2: My son twenty three and in college, has one of
Speaker 2: these MacBook pros that he bought in twenty seventeen, and
Speaker 2: we would like the information on what he should do
Speaker 2: to get a new battery and if he can or
Speaker 2: cannot fly with it. I may have heard on another station,
Speaker 2: but I can't. I can't find a link on your site.
Speaker 2: Would love to hear and be able to advise him.
Speaker 1: He's talking about the fifteen inch MacBook Pro battery recall.
Speaker 1: This has gotten a lot of publicity because it's funny,
Speaker 1: because it hasn't gotten as much publicity as when the
Speaker 1: Galaxy Note happened.
Speaker 3: Remember what Samsung?
Speaker 1: But well, I remember this is a fifteen inch MacBook
Speaker 1: Pro battery recall. Apple has determined that some of the
Speaker 1: batteries inside these devices might overheat and pose a fire
Speaker 1: safety risk. They were sold between September twenty fifteen and
Speaker 1: February twenty seventeen. That's your first hint if you purchased
Speaker 1: a fifteen inch MacBook, which, by the way, the average person,
Speaker 1: and this is probably why I didn't really highlight this
Speaker 1: in our segments too much. The average person is not
Speaker 1: buying a fifteen inch MacBook Pro. They're mostly buying a
Speaker 1: thirteen inch either a MacBook Air or a MacBook. I
Speaker 1: have a thirteen inch by the way. I'd like a
Speaker 1: fifteen inch now because this has gotten too small for
Speaker 1: me to edit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you can borrow mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you have a better Meghan has a
Speaker 1: better computer than I do.
Speaker 2: Actually, mine it's Katy.
Speaker 3: Do you get to take it home at night?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, then it's yours.
Speaker 1: I mean, although you well what I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: do you have the administrator password?
Speaker 3: But I think you might have somehow caught that.
Speaker 2: So anyways, moving on.
Speaker 1: That's that's the reason why I don't want to in trouble.
Speaker 1: This is why I never want a corporate computer.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be beholding figured. We figured that
Speaker 3: you have.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, this is why I don't want
Speaker 1: a corporate phone. I don't want a corporate computer. I'm
Speaker 1: not being behold into corporate it policy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: After you mentioned that to me after I got the computer,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I need to get a computer
Speaker 2: for myself.
Speaker 3: But that's just that's a lot. Don't do that. Don't
Speaker 3: do that. It's fine.
Speaker 1: So you want to go to the website support dot
Speaker 1: Apple dot com, Slash fifteen Dash inch Dash, smash Book,
Speaker 1: MacBook Dash Pro, Dash Battery Dash recall, or just go
Speaker 1: on Google and search MacBook Pro recall. Look for the
Speaker 1: Apple support page and you will find it and just
Speaker 1: pop in the serial number of your device and it
Speaker 1: will tell you immediately if it's eligible. If it's eligible,
Speaker 1: they will tell you how to get a replacement, which
Speaker 1: means that you have to either send your device in
Speaker 1: for repair, or you can just take it into a
Speaker 1: Apple store or an authorized service retailer which now includes
Speaker 1: Best Buy. They say the service might take one to
Speaker 1: two weeks, and I will tell you you may lose
Speaker 1: all your data in this process, depending on what Apple does,
Speaker 1: because when you bring your computer in they may say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't care. We don't feel like
Speaker 1: dissecting this thing and replacing the battery. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: give you a new one or a refurbished So you always, always,
Speaker 1: always when you bring your phone or computer in for service,
Speaker 1: want to have a nice backup of that.
Speaker 3: It's very easy on the Mac. Just use time Machine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No one likes robo calls, Megan.
Speaker 2: I love them, you love them.
Speaker 3: You like talking. It's the one time you actually talk
Speaker 3: to people on your phone.
Speaker 5: The first social connection, yea that I get of the day,
Speaker 5: T Mobile and AT and T are putting aside their
Speaker 5: differences to start a new type of caller authentication technology
Speaker 5: that will work across their networks.
Speaker 1: It's called shaken stir, and the bottom line to know
Speaker 1: about this is that if a robo caller initiates a
Speaker 1: call from the AT and T network using a spoof
Speaker 1: phone number, and they try to call a T Mobile
Speaker 1: phone or vice versa, the phone will say call unverified.
Speaker 1: Is it really Are you really going to see that
Speaker 1: on a daily basis?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Number one, I don't think robo callers are using the
Speaker 1: standard ways and means to make phone calls. They're using
Speaker 1: sophisticated computer programs that make billions of calls all at once.
Speaker 1: So I guess if you see on verified, that's a
Speaker 1: good thing because you're like, oh, I guess this number
Speaker 1: is not verified. But it could also be coming from Sprint,
Speaker 1: or it could be coming from Verizon, or it could
Speaker 1: be coming from a host.
Speaker 3: Of other places. So this is a good first step.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock them, but I think that it's
Speaker 1: a little bit too early to say all of our
Speaker 1: robocal problems are over. I'm gonna do another quick onefore
Speaker 1: you go into your next one.
Speaker 2: Just for today.
Speaker 1: This one's really scary. Smart ovens. We did a story
Speaker 1: with this oven, this specific oven. We didn't review it,
Speaker 1: but we interviewed the CEO. It's called the June Oven.
Speaker 1: And apparently some of these ovens have been turning on
Speaker 1: by themselves in the middle of the night. The Verge
Speaker 1: with the report that says at least three owners have
Speaker 1: noticed these ovens have turned on and.
Speaker 3: Started to preheat.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, and this sounds crazy because okay, so
Speaker 1: one owner's oven turned on around two thirty am and
Speaker 1: broiled at four hundred degrees for hours. And the best
Speaker 1: part is they capture this on their nest cam.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I looked for the video. I would love to say,
Speaker 2: because I wanted to put that in the story.
Speaker 1: Absolutely see that oven come alive in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night.
Speaker 2: Well, it reminds me of an old movie. There's like
Speaker 2: a movie about like the Little Toaster. There's a Disney
Speaker 2: It's a Disney movie, an old movie.
Speaker 3: For Megan, it's like it came out like two years ago. Gosh,
Speaker 3: there's an old movie.
Speaker 1: It was the live action of Aladdin. Oh yeah, Megan,
Speaker 1: that was last summer. The other oven was a let's see, Oh,
Speaker 1: a person roasted potatoes at five pm.
Speaker 3: Apparently forgot to take them out.
Speaker 2: The brave little toaster came out in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that, but so the toaster came
Speaker 1: on in the middle of the night by himself and
Speaker 1: preheated to eight hundred degrees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, toaster oven very similar gadgets.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's awesome. Okay, let's see what else.
Speaker 1: The second guy left potatoes in his oven, and the
Speaker 1: oven came on at one twenty am and baked them
Speaker 1: for four hours and thirty two minutes at one hundred
Speaker 1: and four hundred twenty five degrees. Wow, this guy though
Speaker 1: something else was going on in his house. He was
Speaker 1: he was toasting more than than potatoes, because who doesn't
Speaker 1: notice their own.
Speaker 2: Else was toasting?
Speaker 3: What do you think, I don't know.
Speaker 1: For four hours and thirty two minutes. Come one who
Speaker 1: doesn't notice their oven on for four hours and thirty
Speaker 1: two minutes.
Speaker 2: No, that's weird.
Speaker 1: Maybe I mean it was at one twenty am, so
Speaker 1: maybe that's why. Yeah, But and then you have another
Speaker 1: one that said this woman found her oven at six
Speaker 1: thirty am, preheating at four hundred degrees and it was
Speaker 1: ready to cook. She had been unplugging her June every
Speaker 1: night because she knew that this was kind of a possibility.
Speaker 3: CEO Matt van Horn, who we.
Speaker 1: Spoke to at CS, told The Verge that the owners,
Speaker 1: not the oven, are at fault, but just in case,
Speaker 1: they have a software update that's going.
Speaker 3: To help with these misfires.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing about this story, Megan, is that
Speaker 1: whenever I give the example of a smart oven and
Speaker 1: how brilliant I think they would be. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: the idea of preheating my oven before I get home,
Speaker 1: because often I'll make like nuggets for the kids or something, yeah,
Speaker 1: or a frozen pizza or yourself or myself, I end
Speaker 1: up eating them. I'm always like, how many nuggets?
Speaker 3: Dot?
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs?
Speaker 1: They do have the dinosaurs right now, but we go
Speaker 1: through phases of different types. But the kids seem to
Speaker 1: like the dinosaur. The shape one's the best. Anything that's
Speaker 1: unnatural that's always the best. But I always tell my wife,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wouldn't it be so great if I could
Speaker 1: just turn on the oven from my car?
Speaker 3: And you know, when I get home it's done.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just think that that is
Speaker 2: just really strange. But I'm sure that's going to be
Speaker 2: a thing.
Speaker 3: A thing it already.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have smart ovens. I mean, like the
Speaker 1: normal ovens. These are small ovens, but I'm sure they
Speaker 1: have big ones. But we also love to turn on
Speaker 1: our air conditioning from remotely, so when you get home,
Speaker 1: your house is nice and cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the AC is different than like an oven.
Speaker 3: I know, an oven is like a fire awaiting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you want to burn down your house? All right? Sure,
Speaker 3: go ahead, turn on your oven. Let it pre eat,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: So this next question comes from Pam Ashman. Ashman, do
Speaker 2: you recommend into a system for converting v HS tapes
Speaker 2: to DVD? I am willing to pay money. I should
Speaker 2: put three dollars signs, so I don't know if.
Speaker 3: That means a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I will pay a lot of money for ease of process.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. All tips we used from you have
Speaker 2: been so helpful. See that was an exclamation point.
Speaker 3: Love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See it's funny because I will get I will get
Speaker 1: really nice emails majority of the time, but every once
Speaker 1: in a while I'll just get an email that's.
Speaker 3: Like, f you rich Well, I think that it's usually
Speaker 3: from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it'd be funny at the end
Speaker 2: of every podcast, maybe we we uh mean one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I get that money. I did
Speaker 1: get one today that would probably.
Speaker 2: Fit that we can find like a mean thing on
Speaker 2: like a review or whatever, like the one that called
Speaker 2: me brain dead, like a forum.
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, we probably can't. That's actually I
Speaker 1: like that we're gonna add we're going to start. I
Speaker 1: will tell you. I generally like I like to be
Speaker 1: very positive in my life. Yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 1: by bringing in that negativity or even amplifying it, it's
Speaker 1: what's the point.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't mind joking about it from time to time
Speaker 1: and saying that, you know whatever, or bringing it up, but.
Speaker 3: Like to make it a feature.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because then that feels like people are
Speaker 1: inviting You're inviting people to be mean, and I don't
Speaker 1: love that people to be mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the occasionally occasionally maybe we read one.
Speaker 3: Let's answer the question anyways.
Speaker 1: So I tested two devices. One is the El Gato
Speaker 1: Video Capture for Mac. I do think that is the
Speaker 1: best Mac captured device out there, possibly the best captured device.
Speaker 3: Uh. The other one I.
Speaker 1: Tested was the Roxio VHS to DVD three for PC.
Speaker 1: Worked fine, wasn't as smooth as the Elgato, but then again,
Speaker 1: you're doing this on a Mac versus PC, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit different. You also need a VCR old school
Speaker 1: VCR and you will need a lot of hard drive
Speaker 1: on your computer to digitize these and then after you
Speaker 1: do that, I recommend throwing them all into Google Photo
Speaker 1: because this is the best part. When I put these
Speaker 1: things into Google photos all because I did it, I
Speaker 1: went through a phase where I digitized a bunch of tapes.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy because it actually pulls the faces
Speaker 1: out of your old videos and now you can group
Speaker 1: and like click on my dad and see all the
Speaker 1: old videos that he was in.
Speaker 3: So it's really cool.
Speaker 1: They're applying with like a lot of smarts. The other
Speaker 1: thing you can do if you want totally another free
Speaker 1: option and you want to share things more is you
Speaker 1: can upload them to YouTube for free and use the
Speaker 1: unlisted option. You could toss them in iCloud if you
Speaker 1: have iCloud, but just make sure that you have your
Speaker 1: videos backed up before you toss the original tapes, because
Speaker 1: once the original tapes are gone, they're gone. The other
Speaker 1: thing you can do with vhs to DVDs you can
Speaker 1: take them to Costco. They use a service called or
Speaker 1: just go to Yes Video. I believe it's Yesvideo dot Com.
Speaker 1: They are pretty much the biggest VHS to DVD or
Speaker 1: VHS to digital out there, and you can just either
Speaker 1: do it online or go to one of their retailers.
Speaker 1: They pretty much use everyone. I can't recommend like CEA
Speaker 1: box because I did email them and ask them for
Speaker 1: a test box so I can send in some stuff
Speaker 1: and try it out, and they never really responded in
Speaker 1: a big I don't think they responded at all. So
Speaker 1: whenever that happens as a journalist, I really am worried
Speaker 1: about the consumer side of things because if they're not
Speaker 1: responding to a journalist, and I've said this before, yea,
Speaker 1: what are they doing with consumers?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now, I like to think maybe they're just too busy
Speaker 1: with their customers that you know, they can't respond to me.
Speaker 3: But it's weird.
Speaker 2: I really need to do this for my parents because
Speaker 2: their wedding video. We watched it a couple months ago,
Speaker 2: and some of it you know, was messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should probably do it very soon. It's getting well,
Speaker 3: your parents are getting very old.
Speaker 2: You're getting very you know, Maggie is not going to
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Maggie, Maggie listens.
Speaker 1: No, Maggie is I will I will tell you. Megan's mom. No,
Speaker 1: she's a darling. She's very young, and I will tell
Speaker 1: you this. Megan plays along with what I do here,
Speaker 1: but her mom takes it. When we did a video,
Speaker 1: look us up. We did a rain video, one of
Speaker 1: the first things that Megan and I ever collaborated on together.
Speaker 1: And we did it and her mom was around, Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and your mom. I said, hey, do you mind just
Speaker 1: being in this video real quick? And I didn't give
Speaker 1: her almost any direction except I'm gonna come up to
Speaker 1: you and do this. And she ran with it and
Speaker 1: it might be the best part.
Speaker 3: Of the whole video.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: And I walked past her in the rain and she
Speaker 1: like looks at me and I don't even remember, but
Speaker 1: she did it.
Speaker 3: So well, like missed no beat.
Speaker 1: Okay, you show me any you show me any parent
Speaker 1: that would be that quick thinking on their feet in
Speaker 1: an actress. She was really good and it wasn't even acting.
Speaker 3: She was just like she was just smart Maggie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just being mag just being Mags, Mags. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I told you the story Megan, but I
Speaker 1: one time tried out virtual reality on and on an airplane.
Speaker 3: Flight get sick. I did not get sick, but I
Speaker 3: could not watch the whole movie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: I wanted to test out because I had a thesis
Speaker 1: that watching a movie in VR would be really cool
Speaker 1: on a flight, because why not, right, you have this
Speaker 1: giant screen in front of you.
Speaker 3: Virtually you watch a movie, it's a plane.
Speaker 1: But I was really embarrassed to actually do it on
Speaker 1: the plane because I thought people were I thought they're
Speaker 1: gonna turn the plane around because they're like, what's this
Speaker 1: weirdo doing with this headset? So I was a little
Speaker 1: concerned about that. No one cared. But British Airways is
Speaker 1: going to start introducing three D movies with VR headsets,
Speaker 1: so from now until the end of twenty nineteen customers
Speaker 1: traveling on select flights.
Speaker 3: Oh and oh, you gotta be in.
Speaker 2: First Yeah, I was going to tell you it's first
Speaker 2: class since I read this story well earlier.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the common folk can't have VR first class,
Speaker 1: give me a break, number one.
Speaker 2: And they're only doing it for like a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in first class, you don't need to
Speaker 1: watch a VR movie. You're going to watch that giant
Speaker 1: screen that's in front of you, and you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to sleep because you have live flat sleeper. This is
Speaker 1: I'm talking for the for the chickens in the back
Speaker 1: like me, the cargo that sits in like economy basic. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't really sit in the economy you you know,
Speaker 1: I did once, but I do say I try to
Speaker 1: get economy.
Speaker 3: But even for that, you need it. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: know it. Just throw away this story.
Speaker 1: This is I don't even I don't even care because
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're flying first class, flying first
Speaker 1: class to British British Airways to London, you do not
Speaker 1: I don't need to Number one, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: snub your nose at VR.
Speaker 3: You'd be like, excuse me, what's that? I didn't use that.
Speaker 3: I'm not putting that in my face. It how many
Speaker 3: people do? Actually I would do that too, And.
Speaker 2: I'm not disgusting.
Speaker 3: Germophobe, but not a snob.
Speaker 2: Okay, so switching gears. This next question is from Louise P.
Speaker 2: For a second, I thought it was Louise, Louise R Louise,
Speaker 2: and I was like, that'd be funny. Hello, Rich and Megan.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's Louise. I know, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Over the past few months, you have mentioned the app
Speaker 2: that Apple home Kit will store video feed from compatible
Speaker 2: security style home cameras for about two weeks for free.
Speaker 2: My question is where can I find out what security
Speaker 2: style cameras are compatible for this Home Kit feature and
Speaker 2: our popular brands such as ring Arlow or Nest compatible
Speaker 2: with this service. PS love the podcast and find it
Speaker 2: super informative. Thanks for all that you both do.
Speaker 3: Both. Yeah, and that's so nice.
Speaker 1: I've never seen Megan beaming so much as to right now.
Speaker 3: She's used to me knocking her down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true facts.
Speaker 1: So I would recommend number one tell me this person's
Speaker 1: name again, Luise.
Speaker 2: Oh, I said it like a thousand times see this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome to Megan's life. I would recommend Luise
Speaker 1: that this actually might be Luise because like he's.
Speaker 3: Really into camera stuff. He might have changed his name, Louise.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, that's not him.
Speaker 1: So the Home Kit has been very slow to launch,
Speaker 1: and there are not many things that work with HomeKit.
Speaker 1: As you know, Google and Alexa have absolutely dominated when
Speaker 1: it comes to the smart home. Apple is just not there.
Speaker 1: There are products that work with HomeKit, which is their
Speaker 1: version of Made for Google or Google Assistant, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it, but basically people think it either
Speaker 1: works with Google Assistant, it works with Alexa, or to
Speaker 1: a very very very very lesser extent HomeKit. And that's
Speaker 1: not to say that Apple can't come up and do
Speaker 1: better with this.
Speaker 3: I think that they're doing. They took the slower approach.
Speaker 1: You got so many alexas in homes that they had
Speaker 1: a very early headstart, and then when Google came out,
Speaker 1: they got so many Google homes and homes that they
Speaker 1: got a headstart. Apple doesn't really have anything for the
Speaker 1: home except for the HomePod, and that is not a
Speaker 1: top seller. So people don't have a way to inn
Speaker 1: interact with these things through Siri except on their phone,
Speaker 1: which does work, but it's not as simple as having
Speaker 1: a dedicated speaker. Maybe it's not at the forefront of
Speaker 1: your mind to think like this would be the way
Speaker 1: to do it, but With that said, if you are
Speaker 1: in the Apple ecosystem, you want to use home Kit
Speaker 1: because it works with your phone and it works with
Speaker 1: all your Apple stuff. Long story short, the feature that
Speaker 1: Luis is referring to is Apple kind of put the
Speaker 1: industry on notice when they said, if a camera is
Speaker 1: compatible with home Kit, you will be able to use
Speaker 1: this camera to collect clips in the cloud for free,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other cameras don't do that. If
Speaker 1: you buy a Nest camera or even a Ring camera,
Speaker 1: when you activate those cameras, you will get a live
Speaker 1: stream from them, but you will not get clips from
Speaker 1: them recorded necessarily.
Speaker 3: So if you.
Speaker 1: Miss what happened on the camera live, you're not going
Speaker 1: to see it unless you pay. Now, not all cameras
Speaker 1: are like that. The Amazon cloud cams do give you
Speaker 1: fourteen days of storage, so does the wisecam, but I think.
Speaker 2: That apples in the beginning though.
Speaker 1: No, that's included forever. But it's only fourteen days of clips.
Speaker 1: A clip can be only you know, fifteen to twenty seconds.
Speaker 1: If you want the most out of these cameras, you
Speaker 1: probably want to pay for a little bit longer subscription,
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, that's a long answer to tell you
Speaker 1: that there are exactly two cameras that I can see
Speaker 1: that are compatible with HomeKit right now, according to Apple's website,
Speaker 1: which by the way, you can go to just go
Speaker 1: to Apple home Kit on their website and it will
Speaker 1: give you all the accessories, which includes cameras, bridges, lights, locks, outlets,
Speaker 1: censor switches, and thermostat. But there are two cameras listed,
Speaker 1: the Logitech Circle two.
Speaker 3: And the r Low Baby. Megan. We have a special
Speaker 3: guest on the show today.
Speaker 2: I know we do. It's so exciting.
Speaker 1: Jason Ball, news director at KTLA and host of the
Speaker 1: News Director's Office podcast, is joining us.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you. You guys have a little fancier operation. I
Speaker 4: don't know how that happened.
Speaker 3: Well, you know somehow you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're testing it out, you are testing it eventually.
Speaker 4: This is new.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is new.
Speaker 1: It's uh, this is you're referring to our road Podcasting Board,
Speaker 1: which is just amazing. This is revolutionized podcasting for a
Speaker 1: lot of podcasters, and it gives you the ability to
Speaker 1: not only have sounds like we do. You can't hear
Speaker 1: them off that phones on. But right now we're doing
Speaker 1: a typewriter, and it also gives you the ability to
Speaker 1: live stream as well and take calls, which is how
Speaker 1: the rich on Tech podcast was originally done, was with
Speaker 1: live callers. Eventually we may bring that back, but we
Speaker 1: love Megan so much that she brings.
Speaker 3: The questions it.
Speaker 4: That's a real star.
Speaker 1: So Jason is news director here at KTLA and runs
Speaker 1: a very large operation here, not just news for KTLA,
Speaker 1: but also you run all of the podcasts for Dine.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's true.
Speaker 3: What's that called.
Speaker 4: Tribune Audio Network, which is I think we have about
Speaker 4: fifty or sixty active podcast right now, so that's pretty
Speaker 4: cool across the forty two TV stations, and they very
Speaker 4: you know that we have a great one out of
Speaker 4: We have two great ones out of Greensboro, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: One is on NASCAR, which is a huge hit. It's
Speaker 4: I don't know that much about NASCAR, but I still
Speaker 4: it's fun to listen to just because they're so excited
Speaker 4: about what they're talking about. So that's really cool. And
Speaker 4: then they have a podcast about this girl who was
Speaker 4: at a track meet and got hit in the head
Speaker 4: by another like rammed another girl in the head and
Speaker 4: she has amnesia every day she thinks the same. It's
Speaker 4: the same that same day. Every day she wakes up
Speaker 4: and has to go through that same day, and it's
Speaker 4: really remarkable. She goes that one's called Caitlin Can't Remember,
Speaker 4: and the other one's called Dirty Air, which is.
Speaker 3: Really dirty air.
Speaker 1: The name of a podcast is always like, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the better it is that, you know,
Speaker 1: that could be for anything. Yeah, but I like that
Speaker 1: for NASCAR. Is that referring to like the exhaust or something,
Speaker 1: and then and the dirt?
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what it's really good. I mean that.
Speaker 4: And that TV station w g HP and North in Greensboro,
Speaker 4: North Carolina, is it is an innovative station anyway. I
Speaker 4: think they're just really great. And then there's a new
Speaker 4: one that just came out two weeks ago, I think
Speaker 4: out of Memphis our station there. It's called Killing, Killing
Speaker 4: lorenzen and it's about an NBA player, Lorenzen Wright, who
Speaker 4: grew up in North Mississippi and Memphis played for the
Speaker 4: Clippers actually for a little bit, and the Grizzlies, and
Speaker 4: he was murdered and this went on for like ten years,
Speaker 4: and they like the case leads back to his ex
Speaker 4: wife and her friend. But it's really great and it's
Speaker 4: doing really well too. It's very interesting they do that,
Speaker 4: you know, that crime that crime drama is always always
Speaker 4: a good hit on the podcast.
Speaker 3: That's what got you into podcasts. Wasn't it Cereal or
Speaker 3: was it what?
Speaker 1: What did you listen to when you were because I
Speaker 1: remember you came to you and you're like, Rich, I'm
Speaker 1: loving podcasts And.
Speaker 4: It was actually ninety nine percent invisible.
Speaker 1: Actually you told me about that podcast and I still
Speaker 1: listened to it.
Speaker 3: That Roman Mars.
Speaker 4: Mars's got the great I mean, you guys have great
Speaker 4: voices too, but he's got the coolest voice, like you are,
Speaker 4: no cool.
Speaker 1: We can't stand listening to our own voices, are you kidding? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a horrible voice. I listen to this on
Speaker 1: repeat in my car every day and I still cringe
Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, I hate twenty four to seven. And Megan,
Speaker 1: she listens you always. You skip my parts and just
Speaker 1: listen to yours.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean my family, we just constantly are playing our podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's our music.
Speaker 3: No, you pipe it into the house.
Speaker 2: No, I can't.
Speaker 4: I think everyone has an aversion to that. But you know,
Speaker 4: think about sitting across from professional people who have amazing voices.
Speaker 4: It's really is gonna be a little intimidating.
Speaker 3: That's what you do on your show. Yeah, so tell
Speaker 3: us about your show.
Speaker 4: Okay, So actually next week is our hundredth episode, which
Speaker 4: I feel like is a pretty big accomplishment in itself,
Speaker 4: just to be able to do it, and and we do.
Speaker 4: We started out doing one episode a week, and then
Speaker 4: now we we got way ahead, and then I'm like,
Speaker 4: let's just do two a week, not thinking that it's
Speaker 4: actually twice as much work.
Speaker 3: That is a lot of work.
Speaker 1: You're you're in your office and it's actually recorded in
Speaker 1: Jason's office ninety nine percent of the time, and it's
Speaker 1: always someone's always in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been really great. It's been fun to
Speaker 4: talk about. It started out because, you know, there was
Speaker 4: a lot of media bashing in the media, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: we do a lot of really great things and a
Speaker 4: lot of really cool things. We should talk about that.
Speaker 4: And it was also an example to set for the newsroom.
Speaker 4: If you know, if I can do a podcast, you
Speaker 4: can do a podcast. You know, you can find the
Speaker 4: time to do it, but you have to do something
Speaker 4: you're passionate about and I am passionate about this, So
Speaker 4: it's it's been fun to talk to newsmakers and talk
Speaker 4: about the things that they do good. Like the first
Speaker 4: episode was with Megan Henderson and we talked about our
Speaker 4: trips with UNSEF to Africa, and so that's been really great.
Speaker 4: And then we've had some really just amazing non news
Speaker 4: people on it, and people who used to work in
Speaker 4: local news and now do other things and the skills
Speaker 4: that they learn learning that, you know, meeting deadlines, understanding story,
Speaker 4: being able to decipher quickly both sides of a story
Speaker 4: or with the three sides of a story, or you
Speaker 4: know all that. So it's been it's been really fun
Speaker 4: to do it and to get it out and to
Speaker 4: share people. And the response has been it's good. We
Speaker 4: get a lot of people like young in the industry
Speaker 4: who want to figure it out. So it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's these are people that they look up to, like.
Speaker 1: You Ridge, and it'll tough to believe, but it's funny
Speaker 1: because I remember when I was coming up through the
Speaker 1: Now I'm getting older as the longer I stay here,
Speaker 1: I'm just like Megan calls me old man.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean only on Mondays.
Speaker 3: Monday is on my grumpiest but it's but it's true.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we all had these people that
Speaker 1: we looked up to, and back in the day, there
Speaker 1: was no like when I was listening to Casey case
Speaker 1: you didn't hear a behind the scenes podcast with Casey
Speaker 1: talking about how tough it was to become who he was. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: with these podcasts, you can hear that, and it does
Speaker 1: give people more strength and more drive if they want it,
Speaker 1: because they can find these interviews. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what's the best thing about your podcast is that there's
Speaker 1: always little nuggets of information throughout the podcast. I sit
Speaker 1: there and like, like Megan Henderson, for instance, she said
Speaker 1: something that will stick with me forever, and she said
Speaker 1: that you're getting your first job was like going to
Speaker 1: graduate school for journalists. And I said, that is so brilliant,
Speaker 1: because my first job was so miserable if I would
Speaker 1: have thought of it that way, that this is just
Speaker 1: school where I'm getting to do what I did in school,
Speaker 1: but on a daily basis and get paid eight dollars
Speaker 1: and seventeen cents an hour.
Speaker 4: At least you're not paying them like you know, you're
Speaker 4: not gonna be in debt when you get right.
Speaker 1: No, it was still in debt when I got out,
Speaker 1: but it was different, you know, it was my own doing.
Speaker 1: But the point is it those kind of little nuggets
Speaker 1: that you pick up from a show like yours is
Speaker 1: really helpful.
Speaker 4: One of the other things I talk about a lot is,
Speaker 4: particularly on air, is a craft, and you have to
Speaker 4: be good at craft. You have to do it over
Speaker 4: and over and over again. So that first job you
Speaker 4: get should be somewhere where you can do twenty thirty
Speaker 4: live shots a week.
Speaker 3: Be happy if.
Speaker 4: They run your ragged in the field and you're going
Speaker 4: from story to story, because what you learn in six
Speaker 4: months doing that is better than graduate school. It's just
Speaker 4: doing that reps and doing the repetition of practicing every day.
Speaker 4: You get to practice every day on air before you
Speaker 4: come to the Los Angeles, and you know, because you
Speaker 4: want to make your mistakes and learn it. What was
Speaker 4: your station? K T A L K T A L.
Speaker 3: I always said, just switch those last two letters.
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of people do their first kind
Speaker 1: of on air stuff for you know, like in their
Speaker 1: early part of their stage. Because you catch people early
Speaker 1: and Jason, by the way, has had a great record
Speaker 1: of finding talent.
Speaker 4: It's not a perfect science, that's for sure. You're one
Speaker 4: of the people, one of the few people I've had
Speaker 4: the luck of hiring twice.
Speaker 1: You did hire me twice, and I do thank you
Speaker 1: for that. I remember Jason found me when I was
Speaker 1: working at CNET in New York, and I remember you
Speaker 1: called me up. You're like, can you just do the
Speaker 1: same thing you're doing at SNET here in LA And
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, when can I get out there?
Speaker 4: Yes, I can do that.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: That is the other thing too, about picking the station
Speaker 4: you go to work at, because a lot of particularly
Speaker 4: big market stations want to be innovative and want to
Speaker 4: be cool and want to do things differently, but then
Speaker 4: they get a first scare.
Speaker 3: And that's what happened to me at that first place.
Speaker 1: Because it's funny because I always tell people I am
Speaker 1: doing exactly the same thing I've been doing for I
Speaker 1: don't want to say how many years at this point,
Speaker 1: but many years.
Speaker 4: Fifty five still better at it.
Speaker 1: Well, you hopefully get better, but the reality is you're
Speaker 1: still doing the same thing, like what I was doing
Speaker 1: when you hired me at cakel is the same exact
Speaker 1: thing I'm doing here, except it's accepted here and people
Speaker 1: understand it and we actually made good of it, whereas
Speaker 1: there it was kind of like we didn't understand right,
Speaker 1: and that was not your fault, it was other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you left it just see yeah.
Speaker 1: But uh, okay, so you've got the podcast. You've got
Speaker 1: how many you said? With the Tribune Audio Network, I.
Speaker 4: Think we have fifty or sixty active because some of
Speaker 4: them we do seasons with them, like Caately Camember was
Speaker 4: the season. Then well they're going to revisit her in
Speaker 4: a year and see how she's doing on that. But
Speaker 4: the Today's episodes is with with Chip Yos, one of
Speaker 4: the reporters here, and he told me a story about
Speaker 4: me not hiring him, and I don't remember it at all.
Speaker 4: It was so embarrassing, but it was good and they
Speaker 4: got it all worked it the way it should because
Speaker 4: he should be here with us, being a Orange County
Speaker 4: Bureau chief. So it all all worked out. But you
Speaker 4: hear those fun stories about people.
Speaker 1: Get very honest on podcasts for some reason, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the deal is, so much.
Speaker 4: More intimate, I feel like, and maybe it's you're sitting
Speaker 4: around and there's no I don't know that it's the
Speaker 4: camera that's intimidating as much as it is the lights,
Speaker 4: because I always get people. Yeah, I guess it feels
Speaker 4: you know that, you know the cliche of the police
Speaker 4: investigation room where they got the light on you and
Speaker 4: your sweating and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the little beads of sweat. You can see it.
Speaker 1: Like I interview people and I see like the little
Speaker 1: beads of sweat starting. I'm like, oh, this is going
Speaker 1: downhill because they.
Speaker 2: Get Most interviews are like that, because I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're interviewing a co founder, like they are not used
Speaker 2: to being on camera, and the.
Speaker 3: Ones that are really slicky can trusty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I always get really nervous. Yeah, going on
Speaker 4: TV or even doing the podcast, I would get really nervous.
Speaker 4: But that's part of you know, That's the other thing
Speaker 4: about is again practicing your craft. You know, one hundred
Speaker 4: episodes in, I feel like I'm much more I don't
Speaker 4: know if I'm good at it, but I'm much more
Speaker 4: relaxed about doing it. And you figure out for even
Speaker 4: I do this occasionally now we get ten minutes in,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, what am I going to
Speaker 4: talk to this person about for the next twenty minutes?
Speaker 4: But it always works out fine. I still get that moment,
Speaker 4: that one moment of like panic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you read a lot of books, don't you.
Speaker 4: I try to.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a challenge reading anything.
Speaker 4: Right now, I am reading a couple of things. I
Speaker 4: am reading this book about transition, which I can't remember
Speaker 4: the name of, but I can give you for the notes.
Speaker 4: Since we are about to go through this transition, you know,
Speaker 4: managing transitions, that's hard.
Speaker 3: It has transition somewhere.
Speaker 4: But since our company is being bought by another company
Speaker 4: and we're going to go through transition, so I'm hoping
Speaker 4: I can some of those tools I can used to
Speaker 4: help all of us, you know, get through it. It's
Speaker 4: gonna be fine. But you know, people don't always believe
Speaker 4: you when you don't. It's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: It's the company I used to work for, right KTL
Speaker 1: was owned by the company.
Speaker 3: That's buying us.
Speaker 1: Now now they're going and it's crazy because it's the
Speaker 1: same people, you know, I remember them coming into our
Speaker 1: newsroom and it's the people have not really changed there.
Speaker 3: So that's a good thing.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that they're broadcasters at their core. They
Speaker 4: started out at one TV station in Scratton, Pennsylvania, so
Speaker 4: I appreciate that they are broadcasters. They are interested in
Speaker 4: the future of broadcasting, as opposed to some of our
Speaker 4: previous owners. So that part, I think is going to
Speaker 4: be good. They understand our business, they care about our business,
Speaker 4: they care about where our business is going. They hear
Speaker 4: about the digital aspects of our business. So I'm hopeful.
Speaker 3: So one hundred episodes that will launch in a week or.
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, I think next Thursday's one hundred.
Speaker 3: And is it time to retire now? Or is I keep.
Speaker 4: Waiting for someone to say, okay, enough it's I want
Speaker 4: to stop doing that. But no.
Speaker 1: Have you gotten good feedback though, because it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very inside baseball kind of show that other people
Speaker 1: can appreciate, you know, if you're working at all. But
Speaker 1: it is for the media business. It's it's great insider info.
Speaker 4: I mean, everything has been very positive about it. I mean,
Speaker 4: the people that we have on the show always have
Speaker 4: a good, great experience. And I was in ABJ last week,
Speaker 4: the National Association for Black Journalists, and I interviewed some
Speaker 4: of our colleagues from our other stations there and it
Speaker 4: was great. And one of our colleagues in from Norfolk
Speaker 4: is is actually a past president of the organization. So
Speaker 4: we talked about really the importance of these organizations in
Speaker 4: creating and continuing to foster that diversity among our business.
Speaker 1: Is it one of the on air because they have
Speaker 1: a fun podcast out of there off scripted or something?
Speaker 4: Really, I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 3: I think maybe it is that w T k R.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, they have a fun one, but I
Speaker 1: don't maybe it's not under your umbrella.
Speaker 4: You might probably is.
Speaker 3: There's sixty I have to bring them in. I don't
Speaker 3: know all their names.
Speaker 4: The one that came out this week earlier this week
Speaker 4: is Barbara Sciarra, and she's an amazing got ahead an
Speaker 4: amazing career, and she grew up in Pittsburgh, but it
Speaker 4: went to college and Arizona and got her first job
Speaker 4: in Arizona, so in Yuma, so that was a very
Speaker 4: oh no, and Tucson. So that was a big, you know,
Speaker 4: cultural shift for her to go from you know, Philadelphia,
Speaker 4: I mean to Pittsburgh to to Arizona and then ended
Speaker 4: up in having a long, long career in Norfolk. So
Speaker 4: she's been she was great and.
Speaker 1: A long career in this business, Megan, it is rare,
Speaker 1: especially in local news. Sometimes you know, it's it's uh
Speaker 1: the ones who make it you know a long time.
Speaker 3: It's always a good thing.
Speaker 4: I think local news has a long longer, maybe even
Speaker 4: than some of the network news in the cable because
Speaker 4: we do serve that local community, and it's it's the
Speaker 4: live newscast, and broadcasting to me is really is about live,
Speaker 4: live events, sporting events. The biggest shows in primetime are those,
Speaker 4: you know, contest shows, the ones that are live where
Speaker 4: you need to watch to find out what happened so
Speaker 4: you can talk about it tomorrow at work or you
Speaker 4: know that sort of thing. And news kind of falls
Speaker 4: into the line too. We have a short shelf life.
Speaker 4: It's not like you're gonna watch past episode.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be jump catching up from last year's nine.
Speaker 1: We don't have a news at nine here, but we should. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have at nine am. I was thinking nine pm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have one of those yet.
Speaker 3: Soon four hour.
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our show today.
Speaker 1: Jason's podcast is the news director's.
Speaker 4: Office, the news director's office.
Speaker 1: It is available on iTunes or wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 1: and it's part of the Trubune Audio network, which so
Speaker 1: is this podcast You haven't noticed because we have a
Speaker 1: little chime at the beginning, so that makes it official.
Speaker 3: So we swear a lot less, you're not anyway. We
Speaker 3: did say F on this show. Not just what we said.
Speaker 3: We said F. We said the word the leg What
Speaker 3: would your grandfather's Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna the letter, not going to say any When
Speaker 2: did we say the letter?
Speaker 4: We talk about stand on the show?
Speaker 2: We yeah, we have we No, I don't think we have.
Speaker 3: You need to show a news director's office with Megan
Speaker 3: interviewing about our.
Speaker 4: Grandfather I talked to interesting, It would be interesting.
Speaker 3: Megan has some good roots here at Katla.
Speaker 4: She's a legacy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 4: Her grandfather's picture hangs in my office.
Speaker 2: He has a couple of pictures here.
Speaker 3: Should we say who our grandfather is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my grandfather's stand Chambers and so he was.
Speaker 4: We started working here the year the TV station went
Speaker 4: on the air, in nineteen forty seven. Yeah, and he ca.
Speaker 3: I know we're over, but there's no over in a podcast.
Speaker 4: This is a great story. When I interviewed for the
Speaker 4: job of the news director at KHLA, I interviewed with
Speaker 4: the corporate guy and I said, because they had laid
Speaker 4: off some of the older reporters there, And I said,
Speaker 4: if firing stand Chambers is the job, I am not
Speaker 4: your guy. I am not going to be the guy.
Speaker 4: You know, the first of all, the nicest man you
Speaker 4: ever want to meet in your life, and such a
Speaker 4: great reporter and such a great storyteller. And then when
Speaker 4: he came to me and tell me he was retiring,
Speaker 4: I said, I don't believe you. Come back tomorrow and
Speaker 4: tell me again. And I had him do it three
Speaker 4: times because I'm like, I am not going to be
Speaker 4: responsible for trying to stand Chambers out of this business.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 4: But he was a great man, and you know, we
Speaker 4: miss it, and I just feel fortunate that I got
Speaker 4: to work with him a short time, even late in
Speaker 4: his career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely really special to be here and somehow
Speaker 2: kind of follow in his footsteps. But you know, so
Speaker 2: we'll see.
Speaker 1: And I like the stories every once in a while
Speaker 1: that Megan will just come up with what do you
Speaker 1: mean just with you know, just talking about him and
Speaker 1: just oh yeah, her family watched a lot of the
Speaker 1: news too, so it's nothing. Missus a beat with the
Speaker 1: mcmonagall family.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my mom, she knows everything. She's obsessed with kat.
Speaker 1: Dad not so much. All right, Thanks so much for
Speaker 1: listening to the show. Please subscribe if you haven't done
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Speaker 3: We'd love if you review the show.
Speaker 1: That way, other folks can know what you like about it,
Speaker 1: and I think it helps with iTunes.
Speaker 3: Who knows.
Speaker 1: If you have a question that you would like answered,
Speaker 1: just go to rich on Tech dot tv and hit
Speaker 1: that contact button. And I always ask Megan at the
Speaker 1: end of the show how you think this show went?
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask Meghan and Jason.
Speaker 2: Megan, well, I think it went very well. That was
Speaker 2: a fun podcast.
Speaker 1: Jason, when do you ever get to interview your boss?
Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't that didn't happen ever? Five years ago,
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Thanks all right, thanks so much for listening. Jason,
Speaker 1: You're on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Twitter at Jason Arball and on Instagram mister Jason Ball.
Speaker 4: I like Instagram the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all, Megan, I have a problem.
Speaker 2: You're your producer, producer Megan on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Twitter, I'm Rich dmiro Rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 1: Have a great day. I will talk to you real soon.
Speaker 3: I can mes say