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Speaker 1: Smart ovens with a mind of their own. Google makes

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Speaker 1: a big change to one of its nest camps, all

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Speaker 1: in the name of privacy. An airline tries VR in

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Speaker 1: the Skies. We've got a special guest coming up, my boss,

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Speaker 1: and as usual, I'm answering your pressing tech questions. What

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where I talk about the stuff

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Speaker 1: I think you should know about happening in the tech world. Plus,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I answer your tech questions, and believe me,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you you are always surprised when I

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Speaker 1: write you back. Joining me fresh from Hawaii producer Megan Aloha.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I was gonna say it, but you already did so.

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Speaker 1: You told me when you were in Hawaii you felt

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Speaker 1: like you realized you had an addiction to social media.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about that. What made you think that? Well?

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Speaker 2: So soh My sister she like from the start of

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Speaker 2: the trip, she was like, I'm not going to use

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Speaker 3: Like she went on, and your sister is how old

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Speaker 3: That's impressive.

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Speaker 2: But then there was me and I like noticed that

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. Yeah. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So I've realized, because I do this my wife sometimes,

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Speaker 1: So in my house, I try my best not to

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Speaker 3: I don't exactly like enjoy.

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Speaker 3: There's no easy answer. There's no easy answer.

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Speaker 1: There is tech news happening, yes, and Google is doing

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, So I'm actually going to be reading a

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Speaker 3: No one told me that it was a scam.

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Speaker 1: No one said, rich, I signed up for forty bucks

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Speaker 3: No one likes robo calls, Megan.

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Speaker 2: Just for today.

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Speaker 1: This one's really scary. Smart ovens. We did a story

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Speaker 2: Well, it reminds me of an old movie. There's like

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Speaker 1: It was the live action of Aladdin. Oh yeah, Megan,

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Speaker 1: that was last summer. The other oven was a let's see, Oh,

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Speaker 2: The brave little toaster came out in nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know that, but so the toaster came

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Speaker 1: how brilliant I think they would be. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: the idea of preheating my oven before I get home,

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Speaker 1: because often I'll make like nuggets for the kids or something, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or a frozen pizza or yourself or myself, I end

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Speaker 1: up eating them. I'm always like, how many nuggets?

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Speaker 3: Dot?

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Speaker 2: Dinosaurs?

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Speaker 1: They do have the dinosaurs right now, but we go

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Speaker 1: through phases of different types. But the kids seem to

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Speaker 1: like the dinosaur. The shape one's the best. Anything that's

452
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Speaker 1: unnatural that's always the best. But I always tell my wife,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wouldn't it be so great if I could

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Speaker 1: just turn on the oven from my car?

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Speaker 3: And you know, when I get home it's done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just think that that is

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Speaker 2: just really strange. But I'm sure that's going to be

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Speaker 2: a thing.

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Speaker 3: A thing it already.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they have smart ovens. I mean, like the

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Speaker 1: normal ovens. These are small ovens, but I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: have big ones. But we also love to turn on

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Speaker 1: our air conditioning from remotely, so when you get home,

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Speaker 1: your house is nice and cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the AC is different than like an oven.

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Speaker 3: I know, an oven is like a fire awaiting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you want to burn down your house? All right? Sure,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, turn on your oven. Let it pre eat,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: So this next question comes from Pam Ashman. Ashman, do

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Speaker 2: you recommend into a system for converting v HS tapes

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Speaker 2: to DVD? I am willing to pay money. I should

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Speaker 2: put three dollars signs, so I don't know if.

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Speaker 3: That means a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: I will pay a lot of money for ease of process.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much. All tips we used from you have

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Speaker 2: been so helpful. See that was an exclamation point.

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Speaker 3: Love that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See it's funny because I will get I will get

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Speaker 1: really nice emails majority of the time, but every once

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Speaker 1: in a while I'll just get an email that's.

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Speaker 3: Like, f you rich Well, I think that it's usually

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Speaker 3: from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it'd be funny at the end

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Speaker 2: of every podcast, maybe we we uh mean one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I get that money. I did

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Speaker 1: get one today that would probably.

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Speaker 2: Fit that we can find like a mean thing on

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Speaker 2: like a review or whatever, like the one that called

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Speaker 2: me brain dead, like a forum.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, we probably can't. That's actually I

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Speaker 1: like that we're gonna add we're going to start. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you. I generally like I like to be

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Speaker 1: very positive in my life. Yeah, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: by bringing in that negativity or even amplifying it, it's

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Speaker 1: what's the point.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind joking about it from time to time

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Speaker 1: and saying that, you know whatever, or bringing it up, but.

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Speaker 3: Like to make it a feature.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because then that feels like people are

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Speaker 1: inviting You're inviting people to be mean, and I don't

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Speaker 1: love that people to be mean.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the occasionally occasionally maybe we read one.

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Speaker 3: Let's answer the question anyways.

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Speaker 1: So I tested two devices. One is the El Gato

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Speaker 1: Video Capture for Mac. I do think that is the

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Speaker 1: best Mac captured device out there, possibly the best captured device.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The other one I.

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Speaker 1: Tested was the Roxio VHS to DVD three for PC.

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Speaker 1: Worked fine, wasn't as smooth as the Elgato, but then again,

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Speaker 1: you're doing this on a Mac versus PC, it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different. You also need a VCR old school

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Speaker 1: VCR and you will need a lot of hard drive

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Speaker 1: on your computer to digitize these and then after you

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Speaker 1: do that, I recommend throwing them all into Google Photo

517
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Speaker 1: because this is the best part. When I put these

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Speaker 1: things into Google photos all because I did it, I

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Speaker 1: went through a phase where I digitized a bunch of tapes.

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Speaker 1: It was so crazy because it actually pulls the faces

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Speaker 1: out of your old videos and now you can group

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Speaker 1: and like click on my dad and see all the

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Speaker 1: old videos that he was in.

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Speaker 3: So it's really cool.

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Speaker 1: They're applying with like a lot of smarts. The other

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Speaker 1: thing you can do if you want totally another free

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Speaker 1: option and you want to share things more is you

528
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Speaker 1: can upload them to YouTube for free and use the

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Speaker 1: unlisted option. You could toss them in iCloud if you

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Speaker 1: have iCloud, but just make sure that you have your

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Speaker 1: videos backed up before you toss the original tapes, because

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Speaker 1: once the original tapes are gone, they're gone. The other

533
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Speaker 1: thing you can do with vhs to DVDs you can

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Speaker 1: take them to Costco. They use a service called or

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Speaker 1: just go to Yes Video. I believe it's Yesvideo dot Com.

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Speaker 1: They are pretty much the biggest VHS to DVD or

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Speaker 1: VHS to digital out there, and you can just either

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Speaker 1: do it online or go to one of their retailers.

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Speaker 1: They pretty much use everyone. I can't recommend like CEA

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Speaker 1: box because I did email them and ask them for

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Speaker 1: a test box so I can send in some stuff

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Speaker 1: and try it out, and they never really responded in

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Speaker 1: a big I don't think they responded at all. So

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Speaker 1: whenever that happens as a journalist, I really am worried

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Speaker 1: about the consumer side of things because if they're not

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Speaker 1: responding to a journalist, and I've said this before, yea,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing with consumers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now, I like to think maybe they're just too busy

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Speaker 1: with their customers that you know, they can't respond to me.

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Speaker 3: But it's weird.

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Speaker 2: I really need to do this for my parents because

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Speaker 2: their wedding video. We watched it a couple months ago,

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Speaker 2: and some of it you know, was messed up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should probably do it very soon. It's getting well,

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Speaker 3: your parents are getting very old.

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Speaker 2: You're getting very you know, Maggie is not going to

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: Maggie, Maggie listens.

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Speaker 1: No, Maggie is I will I will tell you. Megan's mom. No,

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Speaker 1: she's a darling. She's very young, and I will tell

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Speaker 1: you this. Megan plays along with what I do here,

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Speaker 1: but her mom takes it. When we did a video,

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Speaker 1: look us up. We did a rain video, one of

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Speaker 1: the first things that Megan and I ever collaborated on together.

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Speaker 1: And we did it and her mom was around, Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: and your mom. I said, hey, do you mind just

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Speaker 1: being in this video real quick? And I didn't give

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Speaker 1: her almost any direction except I'm gonna come up to

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Speaker 1: you and do this. And she ran with it and

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Speaker 1: it might be the best part.

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Speaker 3: Of the whole video.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 1: And I walked past her in the rain and she

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Speaker 1: like looks at me and I don't even remember, but

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Speaker 1: she did it.

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Speaker 3: So well, like missed no beat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you show me any you show me any parent

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Speaker 1: that would be that quick thinking on their feet in

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Speaker 1: an actress. She was really good and it wasn't even acting.

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Speaker 3: She was just like she was just smart Maggie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just being mag just being Mags, Mags. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I told you the story Megan, but I

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Speaker 1: one time tried out virtual reality on and on an airplane.

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Speaker 3: Flight get sick. I did not get sick, but I

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Speaker 3: could not watch the whole movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to test out because I had a thesis

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Speaker 1: that watching a movie in VR would be really cool

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Speaker 1: on a flight, because why not, right, you have this

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Speaker 1: giant screen in front of you.

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Speaker 3: Virtually you watch a movie, it's a plane.

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Speaker 1: But I was really embarrassed to actually do it on

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Speaker 1: the plane because I thought people were I thought they're

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Speaker 1: gonna turn the plane around because they're like, what's this

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Speaker 1: weirdo doing with this headset? So I was a little

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Speaker 1: concerned about that. No one cared. But British Airways is

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Speaker 1: going to start introducing three D movies with VR headsets,

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Speaker 1: so from now until the end of twenty nineteen customers

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Speaker 1: traveling on select flights.

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Speaker 3: Oh and oh, you gotta be in.

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Speaker 2: First Yeah, I was going to tell you it's first

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Speaker 2: class since I read this story well earlier.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the common folk can't have VR first class,

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Speaker 1: give me a break, number one.

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Speaker 2: And they're only doing it for like a month.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in first class, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: watch a VR movie. You're going to watch that giant

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Speaker 1: screen that's in front of you, and you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to sleep because you have live flat sleeper. This is

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Speaker 1: I'm talking for the for the chickens in the back

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Speaker 1: like me, the cargo that sits in like economy basic. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't really sit in the economy you you know,

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Speaker 1: I did once, but I do say I try to

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Speaker 1: get economy.

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Speaker 3: But even for that, you need it. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: know it. Just throw away this story.

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Speaker 1: This is I don't even I don't even care because

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Speaker 1: you know what, if you're flying first class, flying first

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Speaker 1: class to British British Airways to London, you do not

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Speaker 1: I don't need to Number one, you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: snub your nose at VR.

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Speaker 3: You'd be like, excuse me, what's that? I didn't use that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting that in my face. It how many

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Speaker 3: people do? Actually I would do that too, And.

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Speaker 2: I'm not disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Germophobe, but not a snob.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so switching gears. This next question is from Louise P.

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Speaker 2: For a second, I thought it was Louise, Louise R Louise,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, that'd be funny. Hello, Rich and Megan.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's Louise. I know, yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: Over the past few months, you have mentioned the app

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Speaker 2: that Apple home Kit will store video feed from compatible

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Speaker 2: security style home cameras for about two weeks for free.

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Speaker 2: My question is where can I find out what security

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Speaker 2: style cameras are compatible for this Home Kit feature and

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Speaker 2: our popular brands such as ring Arlow or Nest compatible

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Speaker 2: with this service. PS love the podcast and find it

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Speaker 2: super informative. Thanks for all that you both do.

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Speaker 3: Both. Yeah, and that's so nice.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen Megan beaming so much as to right now.

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Speaker 3: She's used to me knocking her down.

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00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, true facts.

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Speaker 1: So I would recommend number one tell me this person's

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Speaker 1: name again, Luise.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I said it like a thousand times see this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, welcome to Megan's life. I would recommend Luise

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Speaker 1: that this actually might be Luise because like he's.

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Speaker 3: Really into camera stuff. He might have changed his name, Louise.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, that's not him.

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Speaker 1: So the Home Kit has been very slow to launch,

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Speaker 1: and there are not many things that work with HomeKit.

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Speaker 1: As you know, Google and Alexa have absolutely dominated when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the smart home. Apple is just not there.

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Speaker 1: There are products that work with HomeKit, which is their

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Speaker 1: version of Made for Google or Google Assistant, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it, but basically people think it either

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Speaker 1: works with Google Assistant, it works with Alexa, or to

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Speaker 1: a very very very very lesser extent HomeKit. And that's

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Speaker 1: not to say that Apple can't come up and do

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Speaker 1: better with this.

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Speaker 3: I think that they're doing. They took the slower approach.

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Speaker 1: You got so many alexas in homes that they had

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Speaker 1: a very early headstart, and then when Google came out,

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Speaker 1: they got so many Google homes and homes that they

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Speaker 1: got a headstart. Apple doesn't really have anything for the

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Speaker 1: home except for the HomePod, and that is not a

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Speaker 1: top seller. So people don't have a way to inn

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Speaker 1: interact with these things through Siri except on their phone,

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Speaker 1: which does work, but it's not as simple as having

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Speaker 1: a dedicated speaker. Maybe it's not at the forefront of

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Speaker 1: your mind to think like this would be the way

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Speaker 1: to do it, but With that said, if you are

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Speaker 1: in the Apple ecosystem, you want to use home Kit

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Speaker 1: because it works with your phone and it works with

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Speaker 1: all your Apple stuff. Long story short, the feature that

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Speaker 1: Luis is referring to is Apple kind of put the

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Speaker 1: industry on notice when they said, if a camera is

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Speaker 1: compatible with home Kit, you will be able to use

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Speaker 1: this camera to collect clips in the cloud for free,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of other cameras don't do that. If

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Speaker 1: you buy a Nest camera or even a Ring camera,

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Speaker 1: when you activate those cameras, you will get a live

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Speaker 1: stream from them, but you will not get clips from

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Speaker 1: them recorded necessarily.

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Speaker 3: So if you.

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Speaker 1: Miss what happened on the camera live, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to see it unless you pay. Now, not all cameras

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Speaker 1: are like that. The Amazon cloud cams do give you

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Speaker 1: fourteen days of storage, so does the wisecam, but I think.

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Speaker 2: That apples in the beginning though.

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Speaker 1: No, that's included forever. But it's only fourteen days of clips.

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Speaker 1: A clip can be only you know, fifteen to twenty seconds.

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Speaker 1: If you want the most out of these cameras, you

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Speaker 1: probably want to pay for a little bit longer subscription,

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Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, that's a long answer to tell you

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Speaker 1: that there are exactly two cameras that I can see

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Speaker 1: that are compatible with HomeKit right now, according to Apple's website,

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Speaker 1: which by the way, you can go to just go

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Speaker 1: to Apple home Kit on their website and it will

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Speaker 1: give you all the accessories, which includes cameras, bridges, lights, locks, outlets,

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Speaker 1: censor switches, and thermostat. But there are two cameras listed,

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Speaker 1: the Logitech Circle two.

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Speaker 3: And the r Low Baby. Megan. We have a special

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Speaker 3: guest on the show today.

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Speaker 2: I know we do. It's so exciting.

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Speaker 1: Jason Ball, news director at KTLA and host of the

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Speaker 1: News Director's Office podcast, is joining us.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. You guys have a little fancier operation. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how that happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know somehow you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're testing it out, you are testing it eventually.

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Speaker 4: This is new.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is new.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, this is you're referring to our road Podcasting Board,

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Speaker 1: which is just amazing. This is revolutionized podcasting for a

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Speaker 1: lot of podcasters, and it gives you the ability to

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Speaker 1: not only have sounds like we do. You can't hear

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Speaker 1: them off that phones on. But right now we're doing

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Speaker 1: a typewriter, and it also gives you the ability to

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Speaker 1: live stream as well and take calls, which is how

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Speaker 1: the rich on Tech podcast was originally done, was with

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Speaker 1: live callers. Eventually we may bring that back, but we

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Speaker 1: love Megan so much that she brings.

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Speaker 3: The questions it.

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Speaker 4: That's a real star.

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Speaker 1: So Jason is news director here at KTLA and runs

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Speaker 1: a very large operation here, not just news for KTLA,

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Speaker 1: but also you run all of the podcasts for Dine.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 3: What's that called.

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Speaker 4: Tribune Audio Network, which is I think we have about

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Speaker 4: fifty or sixty active podcast right now, so that's pretty

736
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Speaker 4: cool across the forty two TV stations, and they very

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Speaker 4: you know that we have a great one out of

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Speaker 4: We have two great ones out of Greensboro, North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: One is on NASCAR, which is a huge hit. It's

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Speaker 4: I don't know that much about NASCAR, but I still

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Speaker 4: it's fun to listen to just because they're so excited

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Speaker 4: about what they're talking about. So that's really cool. And

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Speaker 4: then they have a podcast about this girl who was

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Speaker 4: at a track meet and got hit in the head

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Speaker 4: by another like rammed another girl in the head and

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Speaker 4: she has amnesia every day she thinks the same. It's

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Speaker 4: the same that same day. Every day she wakes up

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Speaker 4: and has to go through that same day, and it's

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Speaker 4: really remarkable. She goes that one's called Caitlin Can't Remember,

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Speaker 4: and the other one's called Dirty Air, which is.

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Speaker 3: Really dirty air.

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Speaker 1: The name of a podcast is always like, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, the better it is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: that could be for anything. Yeah, but I like that

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Speaker 1: for NASCAR. Is that referring to like the exhaust or something,

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Speaker 1: and then and the dirt?

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what it's really good. I mean that.

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Speaker 4: And that TV station w g HP and North in Greensboro,

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Speaker 4: North Carolina, is it is an innovative station anyway. I

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Speaker 4: think they're just really great. And then there's a new

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Speaker 4: one that just came out two weeks ago, I think

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Speaker 4: out of Memphis our station there. It's called Killing, Killing

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Speaker 4: lorenzen and it's about an NBA player, Lorenzen Wright, who

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Speaker 4: grew up in North Mississippi and Memphis played for the

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Speaker 4: Clippers actually for a little bit, and the Grizzlies, and

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Speaker 4: he was murdered and this went on for like ten years,

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Speaker 4: and they like the case leads back to his ex

768
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Speaker 4: wife and her friend. But it's really great and it's

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Speaker 4: doing really well too. It's very interesting they do that,

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Speaker 4: you know, that crime that crime drama is always always

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Speaker 4: a good hit on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: That's what got you into podcasts. Wasn't it Cereal or

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Speaker 3: was it what?

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Speaker 1: What did you listen to when you were because I

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Speaker 1: remember you came to you and you're like, Rich, I'm

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Speaker 1: loving podcasts And.

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Speaker 4: It was actually ninety nine percent invisible.

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Speaker 1: Actually you told me about that podcast and I still

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Speaker 1: listened to it.

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Speaker 3: That Roman Mars.

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Speaker 4: Mars's got the great I mean, you guys have great

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Speaker 4: voices too, but he's got the coolest voice, like you are,

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Speaker 4: no cool.

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Speaker 1: We can't stand listening to our own voices, are you kidding? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a horrible voice. I listen to this on

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Speaker 1: repeat in my car every day and I still cringe

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Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, I hate twenty four to seven. And Megan,

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Speaker 1: she listens you always. You skip my parts and just

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Speaker 1: listen to yours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean my family, we just constantly are playing our podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's our music.

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Speaker 3: No, you pipe it into the house.

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Speaker 2: No, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone has an aversion to that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: think about sitting across from professional people who have amazing voices.

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Speaker 4: It's really is gonna be a little intimidating.

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Speaker 3: That's what you do on your show. Yeah, so tell

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Speaker 3: us about your show.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So actually next week is our hundredth episode, which

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Speaker 4: I feel like is a pretty big accomplishment in itself,

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Speaker 4: just to be able to do it, and and we do.

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Speaker 4: We started out doing one episode a week, and then

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Speaker 4: now we we got way ahead, and then I'm like,

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Speaker 4: let's just do two a week, not thinking that it's

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Speaker 4: actually twice as much work.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: You're you're in your office and it's actually recorded in

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Speaker 1: Jason's office ninety nine percent of the time, and it's

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Speaker 1: always someone's always in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been really great. It's been fun to

812
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Speaker 4: talk about. It started out because, you know, there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of media bashing in the media, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: we do a lot of really great things and a

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Speaker 4: lot of really cool things. We should talk about that.

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Speaker 4: And it was also an example to set for the newsroom.

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Speaker 4: If you know, if I can do a podcast, you

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Speaker 4: can do a podcast. You know, you can find the

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Speaker 4: time to do it, but you have to do something

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Speaker 4: you're passionate about and I am passionate about this, So

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Speaker 4: it's it's been fun to talk to newsmakers and talk

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Speaker 4: about the things that they do good. Like the first

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Speaker 4: episode was with Megan Henderson and we talked about our

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Speaker 4: trips with UNSEF to Africa, and so that's been really great.

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Speaker 4: And then we've had some really just amazing non news

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Speaker 4: people on it, and people who used to work in

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Speaker 4: local news and now do other things and the skills

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Speaker 4: that they learn learning that, you know, meeting deadlines, understanding story,

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Speaker 4: being able to decipher quickly both sides of a story

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Speaker 4: or with the three sides of a story, or you

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Speaker 4: know all that. So it's been it's been really fun

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Speaker 4: to do it and to get it out and to

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Speaker 4: share people. And the response has been it's good. We

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Speaker 4: get a lot of people like young in the industry

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Speaker 4: who want to figure it out. So it's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's these are people that they look up to, like.

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Speaker 1: You Ridge, and it'll tough to believe, but it's funny

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Speaker 1: because I remember when I was coming up through the

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Speaker 1: Now I'm getting older as the longer I stay here,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like Megan calls me old man.

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean only on Mondays.

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Speaker 3: Monday is on my grumpiest but it's but it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we all had these people that

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Speaker 1: we looked up to, and back in the day, there

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Speaker 1: was no like when I was listening to Casey case

846
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: you didn't hear a behind the scenes podcast with Casey

847
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: talking about how tough it was to become who he was. Nowadays,

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Speaker 1: with these podcasts, you can hear that, and it does

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00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: give people more strength and more drive if they want it,

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Speaker 1: because they can find these interviews. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: what's the best thing about your podcast is that there's

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: always little nuggets of information throughout the podcast. I sit

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00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: there and like, like Megan Henderson, for instance, she said

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Speaker 1: something that will stick with me forever, and she said

855
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: that you're getting your first job was like going to

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Speaker 1: graduate school for journalists. And I said, that is so brilliant,

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Speaker 1: because my first job was so miserable if I would

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Speaker 1: have thought of it that way, that this is just

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Speaker 1: school where I'm getting to do what I did in school,

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Speaker 1: but on a daily basis and get paid eight dollars

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Speaker 1: and seventeen cents an hour.

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Speaker 4: At least you're not paying them like you know, you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna be in debt when you get right.

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Speaker 1: No, it was still in debt when I got out,

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Speaker 1: but it was different, you know, it was my own doing.

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Speaker 1: But the point is it those kind of little nuggets

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Speaker 1: that you pick up from a show like yours is

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Speaker 1: really helpful.

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Speaker 4: One of the other things I talk about a lot is,

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Speaker 4: particularly on air, is a craft, and you have to

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Speaker 4: be good at craft. You have to do it over

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Speaker 4: and over and over again. So that first job you

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Speaker 4: get should be somewhere where you can do twenty thirty

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Speaker 4: live shots a week.

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Speaker 3: Be happy if.

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Speaker 4: They run your ragged in the field and you're going

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Speaker 4: from story to story, because what you learn in six

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Speaker 4: months doing that is better than graduate school. It's just

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Speaker 4: doing that reps and doing the repetition of practicing every day.

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: You get to practice every day on air before you

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Speaker 4: come to the Los Angeles, and you know, because you

882
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: want to make your mistakes and learn it. What was

883
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: your station? K T A L K T A L.

884
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: I always said, just switch those last two letters.

885
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of people do their first kind

886
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: of on air stuff for you know, like in their

887
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: early part of their stage. Because you catch people early

888
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: and Jason, by the way, has had a great record

889
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: of finding talent.

890
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: It's not a perfect science, that's for sure. You're one

891
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 4: of the people, one of the few people I've had

892
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: the luck of hiring twice.

893
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: You did hire me twice, and I do thank you

894
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: for that. I remember Jason found me when I was

895
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: working at CNET in New York, and I remember you

896
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: called me up. You're like, can you just do the

897
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: same thing you're doing at SNET here in LA And

898
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, when can I get out there?

899
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I can do that.

900
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 5: Well.

901
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: That is the other thing too, about picking the station

902
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: you go to work at, because a lot of particularly

903
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: big market stations want to be innovative and want to

904
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: be cool and want to do things differently, but then

905
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 4: they get a first scare.

906
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: And that's what happened to me at that first place.

907
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: Because it's funny because I always tell people I am

908
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: doing exactly the same thing I've been doing for I

909
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: don't want to say how many years at this point,

910
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: but many years.

911
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,479
Speaker 4: Fifty five still better at it.

912
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: Well, you hopefully get better, but the reality is you're

913
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: still doing the same thing, like what I was doing

914
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: when you hired me at cakel is the same exact

915
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: thing I'm doing here, except it's accepted here and people

916
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: understand it and we actually made good of it, whereas

917
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: there it was kind of like we didn't understand right,

918
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: and that was not your fault, it was other people.

919
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you left it just see yeah.

920
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: But uh, okay, so you've got the podcast. You've got

921
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: how many you said? With the Tribune Audio Network, I.

922
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: Think we have fifty or sixty active because some of

923
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 4: them we do seasons with them, like Caately Camember was

924
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: the season. Then well they're going to revisit her in

925
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: a year and see how she's doing on that. But

926
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: the Today's episodes is with with Chip Yos, one of

927
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 4: the reporters here, and he told me a story about

928
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: me not hiring him, and I don't remember it at all.

929
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: It was so embarrassing, but it was good and they

930
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: got it all worked it the way it should because

931
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: he should be here with us, being a Orange County

932
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: Bureau chief. So it all all worked out. But you

933
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 4: hear those fun stories about people.

934
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: Get very honest on podcasts for some reason, I don't

935
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: know what the deal is, so much.

936
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: More intimate, I feel like, and maybe it's you're sitting

937
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: around and there's no I don't know that it's the

938
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 4: camera that's intimidating as much as it is the lights,

939
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 4: because I always get people. Yeah, I guess it feels

940
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 4: you know that, you know the cliche of the police

941
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: investigation room where they got the light on you and

942
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 4: your sweating and.

943
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the little beads of sweat. You can see it.

944
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: Like I interview people and I see like the little

945
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: beads of sweat starting. I'm like, oh, this is going

946
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: downhill because they.

947
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: Get Most interviews are like that, because I mean, if

948
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: you're interviewing a co founder, like they are not used

949
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: to being on camera, and the.

950
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: Ones that are really slicky can trusty.

951
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I always get really nervous. Yeah, going on

952
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: TV or even doing the podcast, I would get really nervous.

953
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: But that's part of you know, That's the other thing

954
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: about is again practicing your craft. You know, one hundred

955
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: episodes in, I feel like I'm much more I don't

956
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 4: know if I'm good at it, but I'm much more

957
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: relaxed about doing it. And you figure out for even

958
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: I do this occasionally now we get ten minutes in,

959
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, what am I going to

960
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: talk to this person about for the next twenty minutes?

961
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 4: But it always works out fine. I still get that moment,

962
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 4: that one moment of like panic.

963
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you read a lot of books, don't you.

964
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: I try to.

965
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a challenge reading anything.

966
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: Right now, I am reading a couple of things. I

967
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: am reading this book about transition, which I can't remember

968
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: the name of, but I can give you for the notes.

969
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 4: Since we are about to go through this transition, you know,

970
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: managing transitions, that's hard.

971
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 3: It has transition somewhere.

972
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 4: But since our company is being bought by another company

973
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 4: and we're going to go through transition, so I'm hoping

974
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: I can some of those tools I can used to

975
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: help all of us, you know, get through it. It's

976
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: gonna be fine. But you know, people don't always believe

977
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 4: you when you don't. It's gonna be fine.

978
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: It's the company I used to work for, right KTL

979
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: was owned by the company.

980
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: That's buying us.

981
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Now now they're going and it's crazy because it's the

982
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: same people, you know, I remember them coming into our

983
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: newsroom and it's the people have not really changed there.

984
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: So that's a good thing.

985
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that they're broadcasters at their core. They

986
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: started out at one TV station in Scratton, Pennsylvania, so

987
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: I appreciate that they are broadcasters. They are interested in

988
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: the future of broadcasting, as opposed to some of our

989
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: previous owners. So that part, I think is going to

990
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: be good. They understand our business, they care about our business,

991
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 4: they care about where our business is going. They hear

992
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 4: about the digital aspects of our business. So I'm hopeful.

993
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: So one hundred episodes that will launch in a week or.

994
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: So, Yeah, I think next Thursday's one hundred.

995
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 3: And is it time to retire now? Or is I keep.

996
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: Waiting for someone to say, okay, enough it's I want

997
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: to stop doing that. But no.

998
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: Have you gotten good feedback though, because it's a it's

999
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: a very inside baseball kind of show that other people

1000
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: can appreciate, you know, if you're working at all. But

1001
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: it is for the media business. It's it's great insider info.

1002
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: I mean, everything has been very positive about it. I mean,

1003
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: the people that we have on the show always have

1004
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: a good, great experience. And I was in ABJ last week,

1005
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: the National Association for Black Journalists, and I interviewed some

1006
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: of our colleagues from our other stations there and it

1007
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: was great. And one of our colleagues in from Norfolk

1008
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: is is actually a past president of the organization. So

1009
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: we talked about really the importance of these organizations in

1010
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: creating and continuing to foster that diversity among our business.

1011
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Is it one of the on air because they have

1012
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: a fun podcast out of there off scripted or something?

1013
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: Really, I haven't heard that one.

1014
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: I think maybe it is that w T k R.

1015
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, they have a fun one, but I

1016
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: don't maybe it's not under your umbrella.

1017
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: You might probably is.

1018
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: There's sixty I have to bring them in. I don't

1019
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: know all their names.

1020
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: The one that came out this week earlier this week

1021
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: is Barbara Sciarra, and she's an amazing got ahead an

1022
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: amazing career, and she grew up in Pittsburgh, but it

1023
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: went to college and Arizona and got her first job

1024
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 4: in Arizona, so in Yuma, so that was a very

1025
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: oh no, and Tucson. So that was a big, you know,

1026
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: cultural shift for her to go from you know, Philadelphia,

1027
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean to Pittsburgh to to Arizona and then ended

1028
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: up in having a long, long career in Norfolk. So

1029
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: she's been she was great and.

1030
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: A long career in this business, Megan, it is rare,

1031
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: especially in local news. Sometimes you know, it's it's uh

1032
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: the ones who make it you know a long time.

1033
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: It's always a good thing.

1034
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 4: I think local news has a long longer, maybe even

1035
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: than some of the network news in the cable because

1036
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: we do serve that local community, and it's it's the

1037
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: live newscast, and broadcasting to me is really is about live,

1038
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: live events, sporting events. The biggest shows in primetime are those,

1039
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: you know, contest shows, the ones that are live where

1040
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: you need to watch to find out what happened so

1041
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 4: you can talk about it tomorrow at work or you

1042
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: know that sort of thing. And news kind of falls

1043
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: into the line too. We have a short shelf life.

1044
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: It's not like you're gonna watch past episode.

1045
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna be jump catching up from last year's nine.

1046
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: We don't have a news at nine here, but we should. Yeah,

1047
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: we have at nine am. I was thinking nine pm.

1048
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have one of those yet.

1049
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: Soon four hour.

1050
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for our show today.

1051
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Jason's podcast is the news director's.

1052
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: Office, the news director's office.

1053
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: It is available on iTunes or wherever you listen to podcasts,

1054
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: and it's part of the Trubune Audio network, which so

1055
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: is this podcast You haven't noticed because we have a

1056
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: little chime at the beginning, so that makes it official.

1057
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: So we swear a lot less, you're not anyway. We

1058
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 3: did say F on this show. Not just what we said.

1059
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: We said F. We said the word the leg What

1060
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: would your grandfather's Okay.

1061
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna the letter, not going to say any When

1062
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: did we say the letter?

1063
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: We talk about stand on the show?

1064
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: We yeah, we have we No, I don't think we have.

1065
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 3: You need to show a news director's office with Megan

1066
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: interviewing about our.

1067
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: Grandfather I talked to interesting, It would be interesting.

1068
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: Megan has some good roots here at Katla.

1069
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: She's a legacy.

1070
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am.

1071
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: Her grandfather's picture hangs in my office.

1072
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: He has a couple of pictures here.

1073
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Should we say who our grandfather is?

1074
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, my grandfather's stand Chambers and so he was.

1075
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: We started working here the year the TV station went

1076
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: on the air, in nineteen forty seven. Yeah, and he ca.

1077
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: I know we're over, but there's no over in a podcast.

1078
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: This is a great story. When I interviewed for the

1079
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: job of the news director at KHLA, I interviewed with

1080
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: the corporate guy and I said, because they had laid

1081
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 4: off some of the older reporters there, And I said,

1082
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: if firing stand Chambers is the job, I am not

1083
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: your guy. I am not going to be the guy.

1084
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: You know, the first of all, the nicest man you

1085
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: ever want to meet in your life, and such a

1086
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: great reporter and such a great storyteller. And then when

1087
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 4: he came to me and tell me he was retiring,

1088
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 4: I said, I don't believe you. Come back tomorrow and

1089
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: tell me again. And I had him do it three

1090
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: times because I'm like, I am not going to be

1091
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: responsible for trying to stand Chambers out of this business.

1092
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that's amazing.

1093
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: But he was a great man, and you know, we

1094
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 4: miss it, and I just feel fortunate that I got

1095
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 4: to work with him a short time, even late in

1096
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 4: his career.

1097
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely really special to be here and somehow

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Speaker 2: kind of follow in his footsteps. But you know, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see.

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Speaker 1: And I like the stories every once in a while

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Speaker 1: that Megan will just come up with what do you

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Speaker 1: mean just with you know, just talking about him and

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Speaker 1: just oh yeah, her family watched a lot of the

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Speaker 1: news too, so it's nothing. Missus a beat with the

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Speaker 1: mcmonagall family.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my mom, she knows everything. She's obsessed with kat.

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Speaker 1: Dad not so much. All right, Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to the show. Please subscribe if you haven't done

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Speaker 1: so already. All you have to do is search rich

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, pocket Cast, or Overcast. Those are a few

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Speaker 1: good ones. You can also check out our website ktla

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Speaker 1: dot com slash rich on Tech.

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Speaker 3: We'd love if you review the show.

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Speaker 1: That way, other folks can know what you like about it,

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Speaker 1: and I think it helps with iTunes.

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Speaker 3: Who knows.

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Speaker 1: If you have a question that you would like answered,

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Speaker 1: just go to rich on Tech dot tv and hit

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Speaker 1: that contact button. And I always ask Megan at the

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Speaker 1: end of the show how you think this show went?

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask Meghan and Jason.

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Speaker 2: Megan, well, I think it went very well. That was

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Speaker 2: a fun podcast.

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Speaker 1: Jason, when do you ever get to interview your boss?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't that didn't happen ever? Five years ago,

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. Thanks all right, thanks so much for listening. Jason,

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Speaker 1: You're on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Twitter at Jason Arball and on Instagram mister Jason Ball.

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Speaker 4: I like Instagram the best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all, Megan, I have a problem.

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Speaker 2: You're your producer, producer Megan on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Twitter, I'm Rich dmiro Rich on tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day. I will talk to you real soon.

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Speaker 3: I can mes say