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Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. It'll be a rambunctious Wednesday show.

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Speaker 1: We are live in Chicago. It's The Herd wherever you

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Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Joel cladd in

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Speaker 1: one hour two try to unravel the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: latest edition of the College Football Playoff, the twelve team Playoff.

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Speaker 1: Now again, you have an ACC championship game, an SEC

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Speaker 1: championship game, a big twelve champion ship game to be played.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to talk about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: It's so confusing. March Madness has sixty eight teams easier

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Speaker 1: to explain than this. I can explain over the next

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Speaker 1: five minutes, the blockchain easier than I can the College

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Speaker 1: Football Playoff. Miami is ten and two, has beaten Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame head to head, and they're not in the ACC

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Speaker 1: title game. You know who is seven and five, Duke,

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Speaker 1: And if Duke wins the ACC title game over Virginia,

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Speaker 1: it blows up the ACC and nobody gets in from

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Speaker 1: the conference. How do you how do you make a

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Speaker 1: conference championship game? And if you win it a heroic

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Speaker 1: seven and five teams in the ACC championship ten and two,

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Speaker 1: Miami's not and if Duke wins, nobody gets in from

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Speaker 1: the ACC. Basically what we learned yesterday. The committee said, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know Miami that you beat Notre Dame, and I

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Speaker 1: know that you're ten and two and have impressive wins.

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Speaker 1: You're not in and an hammering pit in cold weather

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Speaker 1: up north. That didn't impress us either. Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: a perfect time to go back to my ten to

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Speaker 1: twenty year rant on the ridiculousness of college football. Eight

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Speaker 1: billion dollar industry, no centralized figure, no ceo, no Dana

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Speaker 1: White is ridiculous, And whenever anybody says college football is

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Speaker 1: better than the NFL, no it's not. You can't have

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Speaker 1: a great movie with a bad ending. You can't have

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Speaker 1: a great movie with a bad ending. Once again, we're

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Speaker 1: left with this nebulous cloud trying to decipher what matters.

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Speaker 1: I thought scheduling big, tough road games matters. Yeah, Texas

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Speaker 1: did see you. I thought winning big games mattered well.

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Speaker 1: Texas beat Oklahoma. That was a pretty big game. Texas

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Speaker 1: has three wins. Beat Texas A and m beat Vandy. No,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter because they lost to Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: thought bad losses punished you well. Last year, Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: they made the Natty. They lost to Northern Illinois at home.

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Speaker 1: occasionally in the NFL you'll have like a team of

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Speaker 1: the losing record have a home playoff game. But we

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Speaker 1: all know why. We don't have to like it, but

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Speaker 1: we know why, because they want a division and they're

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Speaker 1: playing a team that was a wildcard team with the

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Speaker 1: better record. That happens occasionally. But the simplest way to

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Speaker 1: explain what happened last night, and again we still have

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Speaker 1: championship games to be played. The simplest way to explain

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Speaker 1: last night is Notre Dame is in and Miami and

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Speaker 1: Texas are out and Miami has an impressive win. Texas

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Speaker 1: really really bad loss. So Texas and Miami have you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Texas has multiple big wins, but that Florida

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Speaker 1: So it's funny the last thirty years in college football.

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Speaker 1: an arbitrary committee where it's math meets selective feelings. Again,

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Speaker 1: whenever you argue college football is better than the pros,

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is NFL great beginning, great middle, great

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Speaker 1: But it is remarkable that Duke at seven and five

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Speaker 3: So how in the world are Athletic Director's Conference committe?

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Speaker 1: I agree the ACC is this weird, convoluted Ponzi scheme.

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Speaker 1: a deep breath. We still have championship games coming up.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it'll get better. Okay. So Ben Roethlisberger, who carries

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Speaker 1: and privately there is a discussion. There's tension between Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and the ownership. Here's Big Ben on the Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 4: It's being talked about around here a lot. Maybe it's time,

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's a cleanhouse time, Maybe it is Maybe it's time.

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Speaker 4: to maybe a fresh start for him is what's best.

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Speaker 1: This is what I agree with. Big Ben's right. Ask

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Speaker 1: the greatest movie of your career. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin needs think about this. Since Mike Tomlin's last

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it. It's time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this has been like a seven year leaky roof and

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh just keeps putting buckets all over the living room

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Speaker 1: and kitchen. This offense has been dreadful bottom ten for years.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he'll save the day. Arthur Smith, He'll save

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Speaker 1: great receivers. NFL coach is not a Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 1: It's not a lifetime appointment. Mike Tomlin is not a

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Speaker 1: know right now is this is a seven to eight

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Speaker 1: year leaky roof. Fix the roof. Stop just putting buckets

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Speaker 1: defensive coaches do not age as well. You can. I

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Speaker 1: tend to think offensive coaches tend to be more curious.

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Speaker 1: They're play designers where you have to be. Current defensive

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Speaker 1: age well. But if Big Ben's entered the fray, you

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Speaker 1: got to take it seriously. J Mac, Joel kladd In

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Speaker 1: one hour, Albert Breer, Alexi Lawless. We're gonna have the

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Speaker 1: World Cup draw on Friday, which is gonna be unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Hey, can I ask you real quick about this Tomlin

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Speaker 5: stuff because I'm kind of on the other side, Colin.

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Speaker 5: find a great replacement. I mean, we've seen this for quarterbacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: We're done. You need a game plan. Who you got?

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Speaker 6: Give me five names you think we could.

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Speaker 1: Because they would all be offensive. You know, Brian Dabole

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Speaker 5: Domlin to hire a guy who couldn't get his act

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Speaker 5: together in New York over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but New York's got worse ownership New York's front

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Speaker 1: office has Ben Wonky contextualize it. The Giants have run

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Speaker 1: through everybody. The Steelers generally aren't chaotic. They underperform, but

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Speaker 1: When's the last time the Giants had a winning season?

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Speaker 1: So Brian Dable would be I mean, Brian Dables won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in the last eight years with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: the top. And again, there's always a Liam Cohen out

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Speaker 1: there hunt around, There's always a Ben Johnson somewhere, But

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Speaker 1: I Brian Dable is the obvious one to me that

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Speaker 6: And do you think.

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Speaker 5: Tomlin goes back into coaching, because, yeah, the Titans have

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Speaker 5: an opening, the Jets could have an opening, the Browns

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Speaker 6: An opening in the division.

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Speaker 5: I think people would be really interested. Tomlin's not quite

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Speaker 5: in the Verbel Harbaugh boat. Is he of like that

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Speaker 5: guy's gonna work? Remember those guys when they were on

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Speaker 5: the market, it was like that's a slam up.

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Speaker 1: Let me throw this one out. Mike McCarthy, all he

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Speaker 1: like him, you know, I mean Mike McCarthy. Brian Dable

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Speaker 1: in undeniable. I mean, Brian Dable is the one that

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Speaker 1: push for Jackson Dart in New York and you're watching

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart and it's like, oh, that's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Nobody the rest of the league wasn't clamoring for Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at Jackson Dart's completion percentages running,

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Speaker 1: they're young, then they get hit a few times. End

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Speaker 1: of year two they're out of it. And I think

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart after that hit against New England in the

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Speaker 1: But the point is Brian Dable won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: So there is a lot of consternation, a lot of

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Speaker 6: No news, This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's start in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, Colin. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: Reports claim it would be about thirty million three zero

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Speaker 6: I don't mind himitting. I was way off on Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Now, J Mack, there's only one. There's only one old man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think one thing their offense was

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Speaker 1: I do think they got better. But the offense for Carolina,

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Speaker 5: And remember this is in a league, the ACC where

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Speaker 5: back to the NFL and the New York Football Giants.

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Speaker 5: I think they were a disaster this season. They fired

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Speaker 6: Here's what he had to say. This is in place, Dan,

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Speaker 8: And I do have confidence in our ability and our

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Speaker 8: And again, I truly believe in that process, and you know,

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Speaker 1: We're going to get it right.

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Speaker 6: He looks the part hair combed.

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Speaker 5: We're in the quarter zip and just his history in

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Speaker 5: New York has been a disaster from sa Quon Barkley.

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Speaker 5: By the way, did you see his first round pick

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Speaker 5: Okay, you've taken me for a loop here. I was

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Speaker 5: that right now. Do you believe ownership will keep Joe

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Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know that's great news for the Jets, because

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you right now, the New York Jets are

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Speaker 5: Giants are close. The Jets have so many draft picks, Colin, what's.

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Speaker 1: It matter when you get him and don't know what

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Speaker 6: Like the Giants.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, we had Sam darl way back in

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Speaker 5: Washington has Jadon Daniels.

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Speaker 6: You got the worst quarterback in the division. Good look,

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Speaker 5: There must be a Jets thing, That's what it is.

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Speaker 5: Final story, Colin, Mike Vrabel, your boy. He had an

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Speaker 5: seven times. It's hard to watch I love that. That's

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Speaker 5: football right there.

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Speaker 6: Baby.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, here's Rabel talking about this hit not being dirty,

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Speaker 5: and he's coaching his players to keep an eye on

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks in bounce.

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Speaker 1: If we show that to Drake and our defenders are

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Speaker 1: being coached the same way. When I say we better not.

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Speaker 4: Get cued over there by the sidelines because this is legal,

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Speaker 4: I turn around and tell the defense if this is happening,

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Speaker 4: you know, we need to try to knock out of

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Speaker 4: him as legally as possible.

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Speaker 1: No, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Damn.

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Speaker 5: How the Patriots fell backwards into Rabel is just so unfair.

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Speaker 6: They are. They're not going anywhere for the next decade.

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Speaker 1: Rabel and May. How about that division, Josh Allen Drake May,

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Speaker 1: good luck. If you're a Dolphin or a Jet fan.

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Speaker 5: Well, we got Aaron Glenn so so far, that's a start,

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Speaker 5: and then maybe we'll get Mendoza, maybe a little Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 6: I've worked Jets into two stories in this hour.

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Speaker 1: How about that we go.

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Speaker 6: That's a that's a win.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that the

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Speaker 2: herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: So tomorrow Thursday, Thursday Night football is a great one.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stinkers on Thursday night football. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: is a great one Dallas at the Detroit Lions, and

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Speaker 1: it is a This is what I love about the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think this is one of the NFL's strains, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's greatest strength. It is a great reminder how fast,

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Speaker 1: how quickly things change in the NFL. Last year Lions

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Speaker 1: win fifteen games. They may miss the playoffs. Dallas a

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Speaker 1: month ago, tire fire, they may make the playoffs. No

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Speaker 1: sport gives you this. Last year the Lions were an

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Speaker 1: offensive juggernaut seventeenth now on third down and can't pick

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Speaker 1: up fourth down. That was their culture. It's unbelievable. So

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Speaker 1: you know, there's the old People were banging on Lane

468
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Speaker 1: Kiffin this week and LSU, but it's always been the truth.

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Speaker 1: Strike when the iron is and never settle. Old Miss

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's like, I'm settling. LSU is not settling. So

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Speaker 1: this goes back. Why is Detroit going backwards? Did the

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Speaker 1: players get worse? No, they settled. They had the best

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in football. He left, he's now got Chicago

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Speaker 1: as a elite team, and they settled on an in

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Speaker 1: house candidate who may be more than capable, but he's

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Speaker 1: not Ben Johnson. And I've said, the greater the coordinator

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Speaker 1: or coach, you lose, the broader the search has to

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Speaker 1: be to replace him. You know, we all know that

479
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs forced him out of Apple. You better get

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Speaker 1: the next Steve Jobs or you're gonna be begging ten

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Speaker 1: years later for Steve Jobs, the late Steve Jobs to

482
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Speaker 1: come back, which Apple was doing. Like I said, if

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Speaker 1: you gonna if you're gonna fire James Franklin at Penn State,

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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, won a lot of games. Now they

485
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Speaker 1: can't find a coach. Very The answer for fans is

486
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Speaker 1: fire everybody. And the answer for fans in the media

487
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Speaker 1: is hire the friendly guy everybody likes. Michigan football did.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't quite look the same, does it? Two years

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Speaker 1: later and Detroit had great coordinators Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: and they stayed in house. And so you know, ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of Americans, I think, and it's not a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: but are very content being good. But if you'll want

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Speaker 1: to be great, if you want to hoist trophies, there's

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Speaker 1: two things you have to do. You can't settle, and

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Speaker 1: you have to be aggressive. Because if you're not aggressive,

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Speaker 1: you're like ninety percent of Americans who aren't aggressive, and

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Speaker 1: you'll be somewhere in the pack, slightly below, middle of

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Speaker 1: it or slightly above. And Detroit settled and Dallas, by

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Speaker 1: the way, took massive swings. Dallas plays it. They traded Mica.

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Speaker 1: It gave them flexibility. Jerry the deal maker, Quinnon Williams,

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Speaker 1: that's a huge swing. So Dallas and Detroit are different.

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Speaker 1: Dallas settled. If they lose their they're not going to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Detroit settled. If they lose their out

504
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Speaker 1: of the place. Dallas took huge swings and risk, and

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Speaker 1: if they win, start looking at their schedule. Guys start

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Speaker 1: looking at Dallas's schedule. And I think Jerry is a

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Speaker 1: deal maker. And when and I said this for years,

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Speaker 1: when he traded Micah Parsons, it was so easy and

509
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Speaker 1: ninety percent of the media, ninety five percent said, oh Dallas,

510
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Speaker 1: terrible move. I said, you got to give deal makers

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to make deals. This year, the Rams, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have made huge moves, aggressive acquisitions. Two

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Speaker 1: are doing really well, Two will make the playoffs, and

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Speaker 1: Dallas may. So it's really interesting the the you juxtaposed

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Speaker 1: the Lions and the cowboy Boys. One settled, one took

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Speaker 1: a huge swing, And who would you rather be today?

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, who would you rather be over the next

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Speaker 1: two years. I got Dak Prescott, George Pickens, I got

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Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. I got a run stopping defense with an

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Speaker 1: elite defensive tackle, and Kenny Clark as well. Demarvin Overshown

521
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Speaker 1: has emerged as a stud. And I have two first

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Speaker 1: round picks, and I'll probably go get a Caleb Downs

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Speaker 1: and an edge rusher. And my coach is overachieving at

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Speaker 1: this point. I mean so, I think it's a fascinating game,

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Speaker 1: and it's a reminder of why the NFL is king.

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Speaker 1: It is the League of optimism and the League of hope.

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Speaker 1: Four weeks ago, one of these teams was circling the

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Speaker 1: train four or five weeks ago, and before the quinnin

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Speaker 1: Williams trade, Dallas defense didn't look like this and Detroit

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Speaker 1: was humming. Now look at it. Oh, and don't forget this.

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Speaker 1: Here's another thing that Tyler Booker. Remember everybody made fun

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Speaker 1: of that Tyler Booker move, that trade by Dallas or

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Speaker 1: not trade that he was the twelfth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, I want to reach. Do you see

535
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Speaker 1: a matchup against Jalen Carter? Pretty good as a rookie

536
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Speaker 1: is a twelve pick. So things are hummon for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Okay, I do it about every five weeks,

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Speaker 1: about once a month, maybe once every five weeks, I

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Speaker 1: do a Super Bowl Bubble. And this year's bubble is

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Speaker 1: our strangest and skinniest ever, and we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not a em Pacific Saturday.

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Speaker 5: For the first time in conference history, Number one and

544
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: number two collide in the Big Ten title game ice

545
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Speaker 5: in Front Runners collide as Julian Saying leads Number one

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Speaker 5: Ohio State against Fernando Mendoza and number two Indiana. Coverage

547
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: begins Saturday at six point thirty Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I like Ohio State by ten points. The two touchdowns.

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00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: Let me stay in college football for a second. So

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00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff, it's not finished the twelve teams yet,

551
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: so we've got multiple conference championships. But I think the

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Speaker 1: thing most troubling I'll talk to Joel clad about this

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00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: is the message is sent. So like Miami does not

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Speaker 1: get in, but Miami's got like a quality win over

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. And Miami you'd say, has a bad loss

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Speaker 1: to Louisville. Yes, bad loss, but the SMU loss is

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Speaker 1: not a terrible loss. SMU made the playoff. Last year,

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Speaker 1: SMU was eight and four. This year. SMU beat Miami

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Speaker 1: in Clemson this year. SMU is a fine football program.

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Speaker 1: It's not great. It's pretty solid eight and four and

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Speaker 1: it was a close game twenty six to twenty. Miami

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Speaker 1: is getting punished for a really bad loss to Louisville. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't have a bad loss. They've got losses

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Speaker 1: to Miami and Texas A and M. But what's their

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Speaker 1: quality win to sixteenth rand USC? But it was at

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Speaker 1: home that matters. USC has two different programs. There's the

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Speaker 1: La Trojans, right like in La hammered Michigan, and then

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Speaker 1: there's the on the road Trojans, who last year lost

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Speaker 1: to Maryland, could struggle with Rutgers and kind of get

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Speaker 1: blown out a lot on the road in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: get handled. So what's the messaging? Like Texas has multiple

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Speaker 1: excellent wins throttled Texas A and m throttled Vandy throttled Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: and they lost three road games. The closest lost to

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Losing to Georgia is a game they don't

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Speaker 1: match up well with. Yeah, Florida's an ugly loss. So

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Speaker 1: what the messaging to me says is, you can't have

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Speaker 1: a really really bad loss. But Notre Dame last year

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Speaker 1: lost at home to Northern Illinois. That's an atrojan's loss.

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Speaker 1: Made it in and made it to the Natty. So

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Speaker 1: it's I just think. You know, there was a coach

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Speaker 1: named Mike Leach. He was a very funny guy. It

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Speaker 1: was a very unique, clever guy, and he has passed away.

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Speaker 1: But before he did, when he found out college football,

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Speaker 1: you know, was going to go to this playoff and

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Speaker 1: it was going to be selected by a committee, Mike

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Speaker 1: Leach understood what was going to happen down the road.

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Speaker 9: We're so smart. Wouldn't all the other sports say I

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Speaker 9: don't want let's have a committee, you know, because why not?

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Speaker 9: Because you know we're American. We love committees. Let's get

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Speaker 9: us a committee. Well, who should be on the committee? Well,

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Speaker 9: I don't know. This guy's a good guy, Let's have

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Speaker 9: him on the committee.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be fun.

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Speaker 9: We'd go to that resort, we could talk, we could

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Speaker 9: hang out at dinner, and then we'll decide which four

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Speaker 9: teams should go because you know why, we don't need

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Speaker 9: to solve this on the field, because we're the ones

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Speaker 9: that know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the problem with committees. There's a lot of cronyism.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can have relationships with people for twenty

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Speaker 1: years and not favor them, right Like, that's just not

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Speaker 1: the way the world works. So I think the messaging

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Speaker 1: bothers me. I am not anti or pro Miami or

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, but if you both have two losses, at

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Speaker 1: least Miami is a complete ACC member. You know, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is still like, all right, we'll kind of well,

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Speaker 1: kind of play in the ACC, but we want to

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Speaker 1: do our own thing. I mean, couldn't I argue if

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame and Miami are tied and Miami won head

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Speaker 1: to head, that because you're a full member, that's an advantage.

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Speaker 1: You have to play more games that you don't control.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame controls a bigger percentage of their schedule. Miami doesn't.

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Speaker 1: They're a conference member. You get stuck some years with

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Speaker 1: tough schedules. I mean, let's face it, if Miami plays

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Speaker 1: SMU at Hull instead of the Row, they probably win

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Speaker 1: that game and they're in so and I don't think

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Speaker 1: head to head is the only thing. But I said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Miami's got the better defense, Miami's got a better passing game.

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Speaker 1: They have four common opponents, Miami beat three worse. So

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I feel bad for Miami, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I I like the program. I like the spirit. It's

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Speaker 1: a flashy program. Not a lot of flashy college football

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Speaker 1: programs Miami, USC or count flashy. It's not anti Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: I said, if they played today, I'd probably take Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think you should allow people in based

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Speaker 1: on what calling things would happen if they played again. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's not the right way to do it. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: I do a Super Bowl bubble every four or five weeks,

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Speaker 1: and usually the average has been through the years, I

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Speaker 1: have about seven or eight teams late in the year

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Speaker 1: that I think can reach the Super Bowl. It's not

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Speaker 1: about winning it, it's reaching it. So I did this.

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Speaker 1: I did it, and there's only three teams that I

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Speaker 1: feel real strongly about that they're going to reach the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, potentially Rams Green Bay in New England, Denver.

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Speaker 1: I've got in the bubble, but bumping out of the bubble,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if I trust them. Can you

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00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: be a team that's that uneven offensively and get there.

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00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is actually in the bubble. They are touching the bubble.

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Speaker 1: They are making slight contact with the bubble, so they're

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Speaker 1: in the bubble. But I would just say if Congress

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Speaker 1: voted on it, nobody would like them. They would be,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of a Marjorie Taylor Greenfield like, nobody's

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Speaker 1: quite sure what's going on there. In out We're not sure.

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Speaker 1: Maybe out in a week. Nobody really knows. Philly's in

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Speaker 1: the bubble. There's contact with the bubble. They're kind of

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Speaker 1: the bubble. So I want to concentrate on the four

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Speaker 1: teams I put just outside of the bubble, Chicago, Seattle, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: San France. I believe there are fatal flaws that eliminates

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Speaker 1: you even if you have a good record, So let's

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Speaker 1: start with the forty nine ers. The forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: have a fatal flaw. They don't sack the quarterback. They

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Speaker 1: are last in defensive sacks this year thirteen games, only sixteen.

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Speaker 1: No team has ever won a Super Bowl last in sacks,

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Speaker 1: and Fred Warner and Nick Bosa are not coming back

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Speaker 1: the Bills. The Bills can't defend the run no matter

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Speaker 1: who gets healthy. They're thirtieth in run defense. Only one team,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Mannings two thousand and six, Tolls have won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl being a bottom five run defense. I think

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Speaker 1: it killshit, Josh Allen sitting on the sidelines. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: to Seahawks. They turn it over too much. No team

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Speaker 1: has ever won a Super Bowl. Bottom three in giveaways,

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Speaker 1: Seattle's number two. Only the Vikings have given away the

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Speaker 1: ball more, and that's because the quarterback play is just

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Speaker 1: too reckless. And the Bears. You have to go back

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Speaker 1: to Eli Manning two thousand and seven, when a quarterback

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Speaker 1: had a completion percentage at fifty eight percent or lower

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Speaker 1: and won a Super Bowl. Now, it was a different time.

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Speaker 1: Fifty six percent didn't sound as bad as fifty eight

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Speaker 1: percent does now. Now, Caleb Williams could get up to

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Speaker 1: sixty percent, which is kind of the threshold I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for in his last several games. But I think the

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Speaker 1: strangest team in the league is Philadelphia. We love their roster.

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Speaker 1: They should be a Super Bowl team. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what to do with them. They're playing terribly on offense.

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Speaker 1: They've got incredible personnel at wide receiver, at corner, at

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Speaker 1: defensive line, at linebacker, at running back, at tight end,

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Speaker 1: and they're a mess and I'm not sure their head

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Speaker 1: coach can fix it. So jaymckam, I'm missing anybody here?

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Speaker 1: Count the Eagles in because they're making contact with the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Anybody I'm missing here?

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Speaker 6: Well, I like to come in fresh.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't see this before it was posted, and

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Speaker 5: my eyes popped when I saw that the two AFC

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Speaker 5: teams in the Super Bowl bubble are b Nicks and

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Speaker 5: Drake may Like.

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Speaker 6: I'm stunned.

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Speaker 5: No, Ravens, I cannot believe that nobody in the building.

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Speaker 5: Had you force feed the Chiefs onto like touching the bubble.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these are some bad teams, Colin, I think

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Speaker 5: Buffalo should be touching the bubble.

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Speaker 6: By the way, nice political analogy there.

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Speaker 4: Earlier.

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Speaker 6: There's just not enough AFC here.

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Speaker 5: I can't Denvers in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: I just can't. Well, it's a hurdle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, for the previous five years we thought the AFC

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Speaker 1: was better. It's not. NFC now is better. I think

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Speaker 1: Seattle could get to the AFC Championship game. I think

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Speaker 1: Chicago could, the Niners could, the Eagles could, the Rams could,

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Speaker 1: the Packers could. I mean, I just I cannot. I

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Speaker 1: think the team that people think I'm hard on his Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: But you can't struggle against the run because the way

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Speaker 1: Buffalo is going to beat you is Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: James Cook. If you're sitting on the bench and losing

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Speaker 1: time of possession, that's the killer. That's always been the

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Speaker 1: way to beat Mahomes and that's why Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: generally By the way, why is Kansas City losing all

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Speaker 1: those one possession games this year? Nick Write said it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop anybody on third down. That's what Buffalo

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Speaker 1: is struggling with on third and three. People just like

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Speaker 1: we're running it. And a lot of the teams that

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Speaker 1: they could play in the A, I mean, the Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: got one advantage. They do run the ball very very well.

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Speaker 1: That usually helps in December January football, that's really and

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Speaker 1: Denver's run game is hit and miss, and New England's

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Speaker 1: run game is hit and miss. If you love Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: this is the one thing you like football. The next

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Speaker 1: six weeks, run games matter. Bears, Niners, Seahawks.

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Speaker 6: Again, Colin. Remember you've got to walk before you run.

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Speaker 5: And all the sports, especially in the postseason, we've never

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Speaker 5: seen really bo Nicks outside of one playoff game, Drake May.

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Speaker 5: We don't know what these guys are going to look

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Speaker 5: like in the playoffs. So that's why it's difficult for

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Speaker 5: me to envision boom. You get in the playoffs and

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Speaker 5: you go to the super Bowl, it's just hard. I

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Speaker 5: don't see it with those guys.

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Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. Kansas City was not force

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Speaker 1: fed by management.