1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting pretty close to the next presidential election. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Is it going to be the current president Joe Biden 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: or the former president Donald Trump. Now you may think 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the politics, the emotions, and the hostility around this election 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: seem kind of unprecedented, but that's where you're wrong. Imagine 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: senators and congressmen regularly carrying weapons into the Capitol simply 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to do their job. A congressman being beaten almost to 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: death on the House floor, or another being murdered by 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: a colleague, all because a guy on the other side 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: of the aisle doesn't agree with his politics. It all 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: happened in the eighteen hundreds. I'm Patty Steele, Bloody Politics. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: Next on the backstory, We're back with the backstory. Pretty 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: much every day we hear folks ranting about how nasty 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: our political scene is. There's talk of violence, even civil war. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: But in our almost two hundred and fifty year history, 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: there have been some pretty savage moments. In the election 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: of eighteen hundred, when President John Adams was running against 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: challenger Thomas Jefferson, all kinds of claims were made. One 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: journalist supporting Jefferson wrote that John Adams was a hermaphrodite. Meantime, 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: newspaper supporting Adams accused Jefferson of maintaining a harem for 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: himself at Monticello, his estate. The ensuing election became so 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: convoluted that Adams was knocked out of the running and 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Burr slipped into the race. Alexander Hamilton got involved 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: and lobbied hard and loud for Jefferson, who finally won. 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: Four years later, Hamilton again spoke out against Burr in 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: his failed attempt to become governor of New York. Burr 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: challenged Hamilton to a duel, feeling his honor and career 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: had been dragged through the mud, and he eventually shot 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: and killed Hamilton in that duel. But no time in 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: US history saw more violence and anger in the House 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: and Senate than and in the decades that led up 32 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: to the Civil War. The intense abolitionists of the North 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and those in the South intent on protecting their right 34 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: to own slaves led to some ferocious battles. In the 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: thirty years leading up to the war, there were more 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: than seventy violent incidents between congressmen. One that really shocked 37 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: folks happened in May of eighteen fifty six, Congressman Preston 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Brooks walked into the chamber carrying a cane. He always 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: used one since he'd been injured several years earlier in 40 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: another political confrontation. The pro slavery Southerner walked over to 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: Senator Charles Sumner, whacked him on the head with his cane, 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and then proceeded to beat Sumner, a powerful abolitionist, until 43 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: he was unconscious. Brooks then walked out without anybody stopping him. 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: It took Sumner three years to recover. Brooks, meantime, was 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: considered a hero in the South. Can you imagine going 46 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: into the supposedly respectable congressional chambers and being scared out 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: of your wits for your well being and maybe even 48 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: your life, not from outsiders but guys working side by 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: side with you. But that attack on Charles Sumner wasn't 50 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: the start of it. Starting in the early eighteen hundreds, 51 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: senators and congressmen pretty regularly carried pistols or booie knives 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: when in session. In fact, as a civil war approached, 53 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: some constituents actually sent their congressmen guns to protect themselves. 54 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: In eighteen thirty eight, Congress was wildly divided between the 55 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Whigs and the Democrats. An insult against congressman was considered 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: an insult against his whole party, and they believed that 57 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: challenging someone to a duel was the proper way to 58 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: defend the honor of the party. So while Congressmen Jonathan 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Silly and William Graves didn't have any personal disagreement, they 60 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: got strong armed into a duel that neither wanted. Silly, 61 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: a Democrat, said something on the house floor that ticked 62 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: off a Whig newspaper editor. The editor then asked Graves, 63 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: a Whig, to deliver a letter to Silly demanding an apology, 64 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: but Silly refused to accept it, and before you know it, 65 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the two had a duel date. They met for a 66 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: rifle duel, but problem is, neither one was very good 67 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: with a rifle, and they missed each other on the 68 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: first two shots. So they tried again a third time, 69 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: and Graves wound up shooting and killing Silly. Congress responded 70 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: to Silly's murderer with an anti dueling law in eighteen 71 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: thirty nine, but as the tensions between the North and 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: the South ramped up, the violence in Congress continued. In 73 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: another case, in the Arkansas State legislature, a House member 74 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: insulted the speaker during debate, and the speaker responded by 75 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: pulling out a bowie knife and murdering him right there 76 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on the House floor. The killer congressman was expelled and 77 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: tried for murder, but was acquitted for what they called 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: excusable homicide. He was even re elected. Now, the problem 79 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: is that guy later pulled his knife on another legislator, 80 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: who was saved by all the other politicians who simply 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: started cocking their pistols, which they conveniently had on hand. 82 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: By eighteen fifty eight, tensions over slavery erupted into a 83 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: full fledged ideological and physical combat on the floor. This 84 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: happened just a year after abolitionists were enraged by the 85 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling in the dread Scott case, which said 86 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: that black people couldn't be citizens and the federal government 87 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: couldn't ban slavery in western territories. A huge fight broke 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: out around two o'clock in the morning during an overnight session. 89 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: A Southern congressman grabbed a Northern representative by the throat 90 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: and said he would teach quote this black Republican puppy 91 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: a lesson. As the two white men fought, their colleagues 92 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: ran over and a full on group fistfight broke out. 93 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: As one historian put it, the end result was a 94 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: free for all fight in the open space in front 95 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: of the speaker's platform, featuring about thirty sweaty, disheveled, mostly 96 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: middle aged congressman in a no holds barred brawl North 97 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: against South. Two years later came the Civil War. 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