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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stefan

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Speaker 1: never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio, and today we

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Speaker 1: are I'm not gonna say cheating.

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Speaker 2: But we're kind of doing a lighter.

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Speaker 1: Feminist movie Friday slash Wednesday probably Wednesday at this point,

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Speaker 1: which we talked about in previous episodes, where we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna have a fun, light conversation about movies or media

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Speaker 1: that personally made us question if maybe we were gay,

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Speaker 1: along with some popular internet examples. So we're not focusing

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Speaker 1: on any one movie this time. I would love if

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Speaker 1: listeners wrote in and contributed to this, because I saw

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Speaker 1: when I was researching this some of them just tickled

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Speaker 1: me so much.

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Speaker 2: It was so specific. I loved it. I have some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tickle me. Wow, that threw me all. That's my

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Speaker 3: mother's phrase. I've not heard you said that ever.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting older.

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Speaker 3: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I know you've heard to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We have had a really busy couple of weeks. I'm

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Speaker 1: still pretty exhausted, to be honest, with recording this audio

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Speaker 1: book and continuing to put out all of.

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Speaker 2: Our episodes and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to be a bit of a

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Speaker 1: lighter one, but we do try to as much as

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Speaker 1: we like to highlight months like this, we do try

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Speaker 1: to highlight stuff like this throughout the year. So if

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you're not actually doing a queer movie

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Speaker 1: what we did, we try to do them through all

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Speaker 3: Other just recently did the trance movie like It's we

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Speaker 3: want to celebrate it all year long, never gonna hold

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Speaker 3: us down. But also we want to talk about some

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Speaker 3: of the movies that we love that we might not

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I think it's gonna be really fun.

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Speaker 1: I do wanna. I do have a couple of disclaimers

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Speaker 1: at the top, one being you can find someone of

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Speaker 1: the opposite sex or any gender identity attractive and not

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Speaker 1: be gay, Like that's totally a thing. Who you are

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Speaker 1: attracted to also doesn't necessarily indicate how you actually identify,

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Speaker 1: Like I am as perhaps gray sexual, but I would

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Speaker 1: say a sexual and bi romantic. So even though I'm

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Speaker 1: attracted to people of all types, that doesn't necessarily mean

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Speaker 2: So and yeah, I we we kind of we're talking

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Speaker 1: At a hangout we had and it was fun and

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Speaker 1: so we thought we would just share it. But yes,

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Speaker 1: we're not. Think most of the things we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about are not things that have explicitly queer storylines.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are kind of queer baby, but we

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Speaker 3: I think it's the majority of my movies that I

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Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of what I love about it. That's

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Speaker 1: So before we get into our examples, and I guess

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't see that movie until I was quite older,

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Speaker 3: And it was definitely like in the melgaze, like still

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Speaker 1: Right right and peak behind the Curtain. We are reading

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Speaker 1: Another one that came up that surprised me, but then

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't? I Yeah, I sit you the whole

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Speaker 1: So it's just it's now that I think about it,

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Speaker 1: that was probably always there. I just didn't believe that

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Speaker 2: Jennifer's body.

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Speaker 3: Jennifer's Body, that's a I think we've already talked about that,

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Speaker 3: because we talked about this movie and what it was

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Speaker 3: That's what we've decided.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it was because it was shots with mostly

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Speaker 3: Because of the Honey okay, and it's a specific scene

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Speaker 2: And it made me laugh so hard. I'm so happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, completely didn't think about that one.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't either, And I don't think this

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Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Mansfield Park? I have not, because

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Speaker 3: the woman who plays Missus Honey is in Mansfield Park

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Speaker 3: But the four of them are probably the four most

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into it. I'm into it. Another movie I

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Speaker 2: Another to the list.

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Speaker 3: Another because I could see that there's so much to this,

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Speaker 3: so that makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I found a whole essay about it. And

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Speaker 1: they were talking about like, you know, they didn't say

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Speaker 3: And it's great. The Portrell is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: To that might be a next month movie because we

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm into that too for one.

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Speaker 1: For one, it it's it relates to something else that

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Speaker 1: But we also talked about in things like practical magic

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Speaker 3: they're on that same level that I'm just like, again,

437
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 3: I want to stand with you and I want to

438
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: be you. How do I do this?

439
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Yeah, it's.

440
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: Like that this whole like, man, how do I become

441
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: more like you? But also can I be with you here?

442
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: Thank you?

443
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: Right?

444
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: I remember pad Mlashi was on your list of like

445
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: dream guests. Yeah, I thought, and we got rejected. I'm like,

446
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: it's probably a good thing because I think I would

447
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: just pass out. Yeah yeah, And I understand I have

448
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: my guests like that as well.

449
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: But it was just funny. I don't know how that

450
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: interview is going to go.

451
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: I would just out because I already get nervous with

452
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: people I'm not nervous around. I know.

453
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, my next one is not a movie.

454
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: It is a video game, Final Fantasy seven and This

455
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite video games of all time.

456
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: The part I'm talking about specifically is pretty problematic, but

457
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that more in a second. So the

458
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: plotline is way too confusing to break down here. But

459
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: you're a crew of people and you're going to save

460
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: the world. And I had a crush on the main

461
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: character Cloud, mostly because he was sad in the right

462
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: way of sat that I liked at the time. It

463
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: maybe be like, oh, I can pick care of you,

464
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: which is not healthy, I know, but it was kind

465
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: of like that vibe. I was like, Oh, he's so

466
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: tragic and let me help you.

467
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

468
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: But then there's a whole plot point in the game

469
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: where you have to Cloud, who's a male character, has

470
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: to dress up as a woman convincingly and go on

471
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: a date, and based on what you do, it depends

472
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: on the characters that go with you. But then later

473
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: who you end up dating, and you know, there's it's

474
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: harder to get certain characters. So the main two are

475
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: Erith and Tifa, and I had a big crush on Tifa,

476
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: even though I wanted him to be with Rith. It

477
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the kind of the sentiment

478
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: you see with a lot of like young girls who

479
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: are fans of things where they're like, oh, they can't

480
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 1: end up with this person. It was more like I

481
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: just thought erith and him were a better couple, but

482
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: I was. I had a pretty big crush on Tifa

483
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: and Titha was really cool. She was definitely sexualized. She

484
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: is one of the characters that infamously has a huge

485
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: like boob bouncing scene that is totally unnecessary, like completely

486
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: and it's it's played for laughs for sure, because you

487
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: can end up with if you try really hard. You

488
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: can end up with Barrett, who is like this big,

489
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: tough black guy and it's very like comical in the

490
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: game that you end up together, which is not cool.

491
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: But I did.

492
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: I think that whole matching people in video games really

493
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: did open the door for me where I'm like, oh, oh,

494
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: well they could be together or they could be together,

495
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk about that a bit more because

496
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: part of a lot of mine are not even I

497
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: want to be with them.

498
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: It's that I liked that they were together and they

499
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: were gay.

500
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, so that's Final Fantasy seven.

501
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: I remember when I was like, what is this and

502
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: that's a fast and Furious seven. I was so confused.

503
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: I should watch Past and Furious seven and see if

504
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: there's any anything going on.

505
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you no, okay, just no, just

506
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: just automatically no, got it. Yeah, So one of the

507
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: movies that this is what I was referring to.

508
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: That's the cast. I was like, yes, this cast Constantine

509
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: because it is racial vice, Keanu rees till This Winton,

510
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: and even Gavin Bush, like the four of them. Yes,

511
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: just yes, a good pick.

512
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about that movie until you said it, and

513
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, just.

514
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: If you the whole thing because like, first of all,

515
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: till This Swinton in her own like non binary cell

516
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: playing one of the archangels coming down and giving wrath

517
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: and hate but like loving that, and then having you know,

518
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: Gavin Bush being the devil that just slides away with

519
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: his accent and bad acting, a sly voice, Constantine, Keanu

520
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: Reeves just coming in and out being angry and dying

521
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: all the time. And then Rachel Weiss, who they don't

522
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: have the greatest chemistry, I will say this, which is

523
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 3: also why I think I did like it, because it

524
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: felt like they're not gonna be together. I could like

525
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: both of them type of thing.

526
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I loved that movie. I made Mom see it,

527
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: and she hated it because she was kind of religious.

528
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: She's religious now.

529
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: But also, that's the movie. I think I've told this

530
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: story before, but I ate a sixty four ounce chocolate

531
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: bar during it, and I threw up straight chocolate for

532
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: over an hour.

533
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Did you eat a sixty four ounce chocolate bar?

534
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to say.

535
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: It was foolish and embarrassing, but I paid the price

536
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: for it.

537
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Done it?

538
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: Since you surely did? You surely did.

539
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's also when I learned to do the coin.

540
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

541
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: I love that movie. And in a recent interview Keanu

542
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Reeves did was literally saying that this is the one

543
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: movie he wish he could read like, have a second movie, and.

544
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: I think doing something.

545
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: Apparently there's another damn john Wick movie, So why can't

546
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: we have another Constantine?

547
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: That's the call to action? Come on for this, come on, No,

548
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: I can definitely see that one.

549
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was that was the pick. I

550
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: was like, Yeah, I mean we've talked about the Matrix,

551
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: which I'm surprised wasn't on that other list by the way.

552
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it did show up, it just didn't

553
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: show up as much as the cow.

554
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that.

555
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's one of my biggest questions I've ever had. Yeah,

556
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: oh yes, well looking back for me Star Wars, as

557
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I said, obviously obviously, but I did want to say

558
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: with the sequels. I've talked about this before, but the sequels,

559
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: as much as I was kind of like iffy on them,

560
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: it was one of the first times I've shipped a

561
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: couple in a long time, and I was kind of

562
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: surprised by it, which was a storm pilot fin and

563
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: po oh.

564
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: That's right.

565
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: It's kind of a brief it like flared out really quickly,

566
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: but I remember it because it was alongside when I

567
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: was coming more to terms with oh, you're asexual, then

568
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: what does it mean that I'm shipping that? Like I

569
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: was kind of like, what's going on here? So that

570
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: was an interesting experience. And then, as I said, I

571
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: write slash fan fiction now and I'm not sure.

572
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've got a lot to think about still.

573
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: But one of the things I sent you that kind

574
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: of cracks me up is this movie, little known movie,

575
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: I think it went straight to video called Gold Diggers

576
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: The Secret of Bear Mountain. This movie. I don't know

577
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: what was going on in my life that I loved

578
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: this movie so much. But the plot is like, it's

579
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: a very You've got your city girl and she has

580
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: to move to the country and there's talk of this

581
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: trouble maker who they become friends. Christina Ricci is the

582
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: city girl and Ah Slumsky is the kind of mountain

583
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: mountain girl and they become unlikely friends. It is a very,

584
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: like looking back, a pretty dark plot because Anna Slumsky's

585
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: father's abusive and like you actually see it happen, her

586
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: mother ends up in the hospital, she has injuries, there's

587
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: like a near drowning that still.

588
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Sticks with me.

589
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: But I remember being pretty young watching this. I get

590
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: eight or nine, I think, and I wanted them to kiss.

591
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 1: I remember very clearly. I just was like, this is it.

592
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they should kiss, that they're

593
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: perfect for each other, and it was sort of the

594
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: I never would have at that moment said oh, you're gay,

595
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: but I just remember thinking, oh, I wanted to kiss

596
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: so bad.

597
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: I feel like Christina Ricci maybe a poster girl for

598
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: so many movies like that, because she was also in

599
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: Now and Then, which they like they never pretend like

600
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: any of them are lesbians, but it definitely has like

601
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: Rosie o'donald to be more all of them. And there's

602
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: this aspect of these like the girls being so close

603
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: that it kind of would make sense now and Then.

604
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: It's probably one of my favorite favorite movies growing up.

605
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: But like I'm thinking about so many of the things,

606
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: is also like a sleepy hollow kind of like not

607
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: that you want her to be with the girl, but

608
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: she's she feels like she's built for other women or

609
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: some of the men. I don't know, like like it.

610
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: Am I being odd about this? Yes? Yes I am.

611
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: No.

612
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean I can't specify why, because it's not like

613
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen movies that had to write girls in

614
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: them that were best friends, and I hadn't been like, oh,

615
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: they should make out this one in specific either the

616
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: time was right. I haven't seen this movie in forever,

617
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 1: so I can't say. Maybe there was some vibe going

618
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: on that I was picking up on.

619
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 3: I don't like again Christina Ricci.

620
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: I think it might be her, but also one of

621
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: the things that.

622
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: And this I think I had not I hadn't even

623
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: discovered fan fiction yet, but it was right around the

624
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: corner I was coming. But one of the things that

625
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: I really enjoy that can be platonic and should be platonic,

626
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: but also can be romantic and should be romantic, is

627
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: I love like when people just fiercely care about each other,

628
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: Like I love like kind of that protective I'm with you,

629
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to protect you. And I feel like that's

630
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: sort of what was going on here, is that they

631
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: were both very protective.

632
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Of each other.

633
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: I can see that.

634
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely one of my my things.

635
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: Again now and then it was close to that as well.

636
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: I think I would I would go to that as well.

637
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Hmm.

638
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: Well, my final one I've already talked about, and that

639
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: was Black Swan, and I want to mention it because

640
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: it was the first time in my entire life I

641
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: ever had a sex stream was after I saw that movie.

642
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: That's right.

643
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: I like, Natalie Portman did show up on a lot

644
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: of people's list.

645
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: I was trying to think she ever made my list

646
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: because I saw Black Swan coming up like and being like,

647
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: oh no, because I saw her in shoot, well she's pregnant.

648
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: Oh no. Her first movie I saw I was a professional. Yeah,

649
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 3: which makes me sad looking back on it because she

650
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: was really mistreated. But I did love that movie, and

651
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: now I'm like, oh, no, that's awful. But then but

652
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: then like the.

653
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: Movie uh where the hurt is?

654
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Yes, that when I read the book first and she

655
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: was so I thought she was such a bad actor.

656
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: In it, and I was like, no, I kind of

657
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Speaker 2: had a crush on her, as Padme.

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Speaker 3: I assumed you did. I thought that's what you were

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Speaker 3: talking about when you were talking about like prequels and sequels.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: No, but I think again, I don't think I would

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Speaker 1: have ever. I just assumed I wasn't gay. It kind

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Speaker 1: of breaks my heart now, but I just assumed I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: So I think I was more like, oh, she's a

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Speaker 1: really cool and I did find her very attractive, But

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Speaker 1: I think it was more like I thought it was appreciating,

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Speaker 1: Oh she's a beautiful woman and look at this fashion

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Speaker 1: and like our lead character, right, was.

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Speaker 3: Kate play shit on any of the lists? Because I

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Speaker 3: would assume, like.

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Speaker 2: The thor, I didn't see any of that.

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Speaker 3: But honestly a character I would put her up there.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. If listeners again, please send in your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but because I didn't find as much as I

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Speaker 1: thought I would, And it's perhaps I wasn't entering the

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Speaker 1: correct Google search, but I didn't, I don't think, because

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Speaker 1: I would have included that, right, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: saw that one, but.

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Speaker 3: I mean, m h, I mean between her and Tessa Thompson,

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Speaker 3: I would assume the two of them would have been

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Speaker 3: on that list.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I thought there would be more Tessa Thompson, uh,

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Speaker 1: because she was definitely, but at that point I already

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Speaker 1: knew I was queer.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, but I'm like, maybe it's

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Speaker 3: just all the old movies, because I would have, like

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Speaker 3: I said, thought that that especially thor Ragnarrock would have

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Speaker 3: been pretty high on that list because the two of

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Speaker 3: them really just kind of carried.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be interesting if you compare sort of

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Speaker 1: you know, younger generations or SUSA generations, because that might

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Speaker 1: show up, like maybe a decade from now on people's

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Speaker 1: list who haven't you know, realized that they're FI. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: that'd be interesting, and again please send in your suggestions.

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Speaker 1: But also this was when you're attracted to someone that

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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily at all mean you're gay. But we were

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Speaker 1: just having kind of this conversation about when you start

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Speaker 1: to think maybe at.

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Speaker 3: This point like oh, this makes sense, right, but you're like, oh.

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Speaker 1: Like for me it was x files and for not

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Speaker 1: just me it was x files, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: people did say this is when I realized, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's not it doesn't have.

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Speaker 2: To be that, but it has been that for a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, and.

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Speaker 3: Then for us it's just like questioning because they could

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Speaker 3: be like, oh that I can see it that moment too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna after we'd die,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have this whole epiphany of so many more.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like gold Digger's the secret of Bear

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Speaker 2: Mountain was that that was that was gold.

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Speaker 3: But I can remembering that one between you and I

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Speaker 3: maybe with the who plays Roger rabbit Ball, like, okay,

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Speaker 3: keep that in the interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean I have on my phone because I'm a

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Speaker 1: total nerd the list of all the crushes I've had

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Speaker 1: in my life, and some of them are outright embarrassing

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Speaker 1: in their cartoons and it's like what was going on here?

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Speaker 1: But yes, we would love to hear from you about this. Listeners,

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Speaker 1: and we will return with our regular feminist movie Wednesday Friday,

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Speaker 1: unfeminist movie perhaps next month, but in the meantime, if

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Speaker 1: you have any suggestions, if you have any thoughts about this,

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Speaker 1: any examples of your own, we would love to hear

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Speaker 1: from you. You can email U at Stephanie moms Stuff

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Speaker 1: at iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at mom Stuff podcast, or on Instagram and TikTok at

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Speaker 1: read books dot com. Apparently you can get it on

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Speaker 1: an audible now too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, listen to it yet, but you can pre

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Speaker 3: order it if.

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Speaker 1: You are relind Yes, if you're so inclined, and we

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Speaker 1: would appreciate it. Thanks as always to our super producer Christina,

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Maya, and our contributor Joey.

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Speaker 3: I have to know if they've heard of any of

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Speaker 3: these movies. Have y'all heard of any of these movies?

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Speaker 3: Because y'all are youngins.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what are your examples?

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Speaker 3: It's maybe not the thin, but I'd like who framed

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Speaker 3: Roger Rabbit? Do they know about this movie?

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Speaker 2: We've got to know? Please write in yes. And thanks

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