1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: At a Steve tester who has been all over the fields. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: player for Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: the straded here of normalcy here, all right, here we 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: go a radio only Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: you here on one Bills Live as we are up 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: in running on training camp report day, players busy. And 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: if you're wondering why we are radio only today, it's 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: because we got bounced out of our own studio. How 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: ironic is that we're waiting We're like, we're sitting around 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: there for like six months waiting for training camp to start. 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Let's go, let's start, and they kick us out. Yeah. 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: So we have the big green screen in our studio 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: and and that is also helpful in serving some of 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: our other needs with our Bills video team, not only 16 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: for Buffalo Bills dot Com, but for our stadium productions 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: as well. So when you see someone like Tredavious White 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: on the big scoreboard at a home game telling you 19 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: to get out of your seats on third down, that 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: will probably be filmed today in our studio, so they 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: have it available to them for home game Sundays or 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: whatever day they're playing. So we stepped aside and are 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: kindly loaning our home digs for the stadium crew to 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: get all of their production elements ready for home game 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Sundays to make it entertaining for you, and for headshots 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: as well, so the broadcast networks have headshots of all 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: the players. So the players have to file through their 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: all day today. It's pretty much a a ten twelve 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: hour day for them, right, So we'll do our three 30 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: hour thing offsite today radio only, And if you're outside 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: the viewing audience and or you have friends out of 32 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: town that usually catch us on MSG and cannot, you 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: can text them and tell them to just pull up 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: the Bills app and they'll be able to listen to 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: us live wherever they are. So yeah, that's the word 36 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: to pass along to your fellow Bills fans who are 37 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: outside the listening area. Plenty of news and notes concerning 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: the NFL today, Steve also some Olympic notes that will 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: get to here shortly. But Aaron Rodgers front and center. 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: It was this ridiculous. They've got the media, I guess 41 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. This is like presidential worthy news. And 42 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: there they are at the airport at the stroke of 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: midnight last night to catch Aaron Rodgers private plane landing. 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: He has arrived, he is in Green Bay. I mean, 45 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: it was like a papal visit. This was insane. Well, 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: you knew it what happened though. I mean, you know, 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: Bills fans go out and watch the team land after 48 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: they after they clinched the division or after they you know, 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: went playoff or whatever. And for while everything's been going 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: on with Aaron Rodgers, which you know, there's a little 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: bit more than him just landing at training camp that's 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: going on. We're hearing now that the Green Bay Packers 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: have and he have been in contact and talked about 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: this being his last year and May and the pack 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: made some concessions to him about instead of paying him 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: and which which is I think it actually speaks well 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: of the relationship between Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. We've 58 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: we've heard as contentious, but then we heard, hey, they've 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: been talking to him. I mean the principles involved have 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: been talking to him face to face. Guda Kunst and 61 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy and of course Lafleur as well, a head coach, 62 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: probably had some contact with him as well, but they 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: offered him a huge contract to get him to stay. 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: He said, no, it's not about the money. And they 65 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: must obviously have said what is it about, and he said, well, 66 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: here it is, and they and now they're saying, okay, 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: us another year, will do what will you know, try 68 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and trade for your boy Crabtree or whoever it is 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: you want out there to get you another weapon in here. 70 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: We'll take one last run at this and then we'll 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: talk about we'll reevaluate at the end of the season 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: May and we'll be open to trade and you then 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers landed in Green Bay last night, so 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, they're gonna they've come to 75 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: an agreement where if there was ever one to be 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: made that the Pack are willing to work with him. 77 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: So I think it speaks well that they were this 78 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: communicative Rogers. Obviously, Rogers wasn't happy. And it goes all 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: the way back to the Jordan Love Draft and I 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: and plus the fact that he's been to the NFC 81 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: Championship Game twice now in a row and can't get 82 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: over the hump. He's looking around going hey, I need 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: some help, and you know, then they draft somebody who's 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: not gonna play behind him. So he's got he's got 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: a beef. But it wasn't about the money, which I 86 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: think is big for him to you know, make that 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: point and to have that to say, like, I didn't 88 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: take the deal. It's not about the money. So I 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: think he's got some leverage because of that stance. And 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: they'll say, Okay, we don't have to pay you fifty 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: million bucks. Okay, cool, we'll trade for a guy. So 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: I think it speaks well to their relationship that they 93 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: got to this point. Brownie. I'm you know, we talked 94 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: about him for a long time, and I think this 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: is is pretty interesting the way this all turned out. Right, 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: The reports are that they avoided the final year of 97 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: his current contract, so he's only under contract to them 98 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: this year and next year. It had previously gone through 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but I heard Adam Schefter reporting on 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: ESPN this morning that they had agreed to avoid the 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: final year of his deal, so one step closer to freedom. 102 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: I guess, for lack of a better term, now wisely, 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: I think the Packers maintained the rights to him through 104 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, because presumably after this season they will 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: trade him and you know how that goes if his 106 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: contract is up after this year. So they insulated themselves 107 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: by at least keeping twenty twenty two on there. You 108 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: know that Rogers camp probably said, well, yeah, why don't 109 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you just lop off the last two years on my country. 110 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Hold on a second, We're not. We're not doing that. 111 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: We'll lop off the final year and avoid that, which 112 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: obviously opens up some cap space for them in terms 113 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: of trying to get an extension done on Davante Adams. 114 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: Whether he wants to stay there after this year, I 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: guess remains to be seen, because he could play hardball 116 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: with them too. But I think what you have here 117 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: is two sides that at least seem to be a 118 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: little bit more on the same page. Now in terms 119 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: of rogers preferred exit plan, I think he'll have some 120 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: say But you know, I think the Packers are going 121 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: to trade him to the AFC probably if if they 122 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: have any and kind of power or say at all, 123 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: they don't want him in the same conference they talk. 124 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: It's already people are already conjecturing the team next year. 125 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two's got some of the biggest cap come 126 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: to the most cap space available with a quarterback opening 127 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: on the horizon would be a team like Pittsburgh. They 128 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: got like seventy five million in cap space coming up. 129 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's thirty nine. He's done after this year, and 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: it would be perfect for them. Trade for Aaron Rodgers, 131 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: get three years out of him, pay him whatever he wants, 132 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: and see if you can win a world championship with 133 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: him there. Now, the problem is this, as I see 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: a brownie, what what if the Pack win at all 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: this year? You know what if they go to the 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game he's MVP again, They're gonna trade him? Then? No, 137 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: his value will never be higher. Well, yeah, but you 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: did what you set out to do you want the 139 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: whole thing? Or what if you don't win the whole thing? Though? 140 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: What if he's MVP and they get put out in 141 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: the Division round? His value will never be higher. That's 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: just gonna say the same thing. I think I think 143 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: they know, like look just like he and DeVante Adams 144 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Instagram the other day. This is the last dance. Everybody 145 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: needs to be aware of it. And you know they'll 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: find a suitable trade partner in the off season, get 147 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: it done, and when you think about it, it's probably 148 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: going to be a lot more civil than what we 149 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: saw in Philadelphia, and probably more civil than it was 150 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: with Brett Farve and with Brett Farve, and I think 151 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: he can make an argument, maybe even in the Rams 152 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: situation with goth in which he just got blindsided and 153 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: got chipped off to Detroit. Thanks a lot. Apparently you've 154 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: really appreciated my years here with the Rams. I mean 155 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: they sent you to the Siberia of the NFL. Yeah, 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, but yeah, I never heard Goff saying, 157 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, golf is making the most of it as well. 158 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean he said it had some nice things to 159 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: say about about Detroit and all that, but yeah, well 160 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: what else does he get a say? Yeah, but I 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: think you're right. It doesn't have to end this way. 162 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna probably end as well as 163 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: it could for a quarter, like it's gonna end like 164 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: it did with Peyton Manning in Indianapolis. They will, you know, 165 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: theoretically have their guy in the stable already in Jordan Love. 166 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: They'll make the smooth transition. They'll you'll see all kinds 167 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: of stories about how Jordan Love will be this and 168 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: this and this, and the inference will be that, you know, 169 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was not this and this and this, he 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: was something else, right. I mean, you'll have all the 171 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: positive things about Jordan Love. We even heard it when 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: when Rogers wasn't at the OTAs in mini camp out. 173 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, Jordan Love was lightening it up one day 174 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: in practice and how everybody was like all fired up 175 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: about Jordan Love getting his shot. And if you know, 176 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: and it's perfect that Aaron Rodgers isn't there, because that 177 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: means George Love can take all of his reps and 178 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: get more reps and get better faster. You're gonna hear 179 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: all of that stuff after they trade Aaron Rodgers and 180 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: then you know they're going to take the field with 181 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: him as their quarterback and we'll see how fat you know, 182 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: how they go. But you know you can see it coming, Brownie, 183 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: how it's all going to play out in Yeah, there 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: are some There is some contract news at the defensive 185 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: tackle position. Jonathan Allen of the Washington football team signs 186 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: a four year extension worth seventy two million dollars. That's 187 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: big money eighteen a year for a defensive tackle. Giant 188 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: contract for him for one of the best defensive line 189 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: contingents in the league, Jonathan Allen, a former first round pick, 190 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: but you got him there, with a slew of other 191 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: first round talent on that defensive front, most notably Chase Young, 192 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, their top pick a couple of years ago. 193 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: That is going to be a very intriguing Week three 194 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: matchup for the Bill Steve because that might be the 195 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: best defensive front they faced from end to end the 196 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: entire season, and they're gonna have an impact on that game. 197 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the That will be the game where 198 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a look at a team with a 199 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: with a with a defense it's super Bowl caliber. Now, 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: maybe not their offense, but their defense is the type 201 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: of defense that we see when Super Bowls. We saw 202 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: it when in Tampa Bay this last year. We saw 203 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: it when in Seattle back in the day when they 204 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: took Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos out. We've seen 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: it in other game well, with the New York Giants 206 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: when they beat the Patriots twice. It was their defensive 207 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: line in that first one. The O eight team that 208 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: was going to go undefeated, and it was the defensive 209 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: line that put a stop to it. That is what 210 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: Washington's put together in in DC. The football team is 211 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna be um. They're gonna come in with a with 212 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: an absolutely super Bowl caliber front four. That's what they are. 213 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: They may be as good as across from end to 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: end as anybody in the league. Now, certainly, you know 215 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you can put Aaron Donald out there. Surely he's probably 216 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: better than those guys, but he doesn't have the guys 217 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: around him from end to end. Washington's got the guys, 218 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be fun to watch on in Week 219 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: three of the season. Is how well built the Bills 220 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: hold up? Yeah, because that'll be an early litmus test 221 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: I think for where the offensive line is at. However, 222 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: it's constituted whether there's some change from last year or not, 223 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: and every guy across the front is gonna have a 224 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: premium assignment in that game. I mean, you look at 225 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: that defense, Chase Young, Dron Payne, Jonathan Allen, Montez sweat 226 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: all first round draft choices seventeen, eighteen, nineteen to twenty. 227 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you even have anybody that's 228 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: all that long in the tooth right, that is a group, man. 229 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's gonna be it's going to be heavy 230 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: lifting that week for for Buffalo's offensive line, and I'm 231 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: really interested to see what the offensive approach is going 232 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: to be for that one on the part of Brian Dable. 233 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Other Washington football team news concerns a former Bill tight 234 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: end Logan Thomas. How about this guy. You can't be 235 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: anything but happy for Logan Thomas. This is a guy 236 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: who in twenty sixteen made the Bill's roster at the 237 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: tight end position. Former college quarterback, made the transition to 238 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: the tight end position, basically took that transition from square 239 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: one at the highest level of football. Has a seventy 240 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: two catch season last year for Washington and parlays that 241 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: into a three year contract extension with Washington at age 242 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Congrats to him. He's a good player. Yeah, 243 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: he's got a big family. Every time every time we 244 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: went back to training camp every year, it seemed like 245 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: there was another addition to the they were. They were 246 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: busy in the offseason. He had like four or five 247 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: kids in his last year with the Bills. So I'm 248 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: glad it's worked out for him. A three year contract 249 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: extension that family's taken care of, it's got a long 250 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: term financial security. So happy for the Thomas family, Happy 251 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: for him for seeing it through man that, I don't 252 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: think people realize how difficult it is to make a transition, 253 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: and we've seen it in Buffalo before, George Wilson going 254 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: from receiver to safety, But going from quarterback to tight end, 255 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: I think mentally it's not even as heavy a lift 256 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: as it is physically, because if you've played quarterback, you've 257 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of mastered, you know, knowing everything and play concepts 258 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So and tight ends a pretty 259 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: complicated position, as you well know, Steve. But to do 260 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: that physically, yeah, that's pretty impressive. I gotta say the 261 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: pressure is incredible because you have if you're gonna make 262 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: that switch, you have to make it at a level 263 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: fast enough to stay good enough for them to see 264 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: hope and and you know, you've got whatever team you're on, 265 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: certainly if they're gonna ask you to make the switch, 266 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna give you time to get acclimated. But you've 267 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: got to get good fast to stay around because any 268 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: team you're on is trying to win and they, you know, 269 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: while while letting you develop and do all this is 270 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: one thing. Waiting on you while you flounder around is another. 271 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: And the look at the Bills weren't ready to do it. 272 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't good enough, fast enough to stay on the team. Yeah, 273 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: he was gone. They had they moved on. They needed 274 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: guys that could produce. He goes to Washington, gets a 275 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit more leased, hangs on there and then you know, 276 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: things click for him and that's got to be what 277 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: and maybe his third year as a tight end, well, 278 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: he made the transition here in twenty sixteen, that's when 279 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: he started doing it. Basically ran out of practice squad 280 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: time and was no longer in Buffalo. And fortunately for him, 281 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: he did enough in twenty nineteen to stay on the 282 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Washington roster going into twenty and then with the essentially 283 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: he became the end of of a career for the 284 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: other tight end on Washington's roster, who moved on to 285 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Denver and then ultimately retired due to a series of concussions. 286 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: The door was opened for him and he took full 287 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: advantage of it last year to us to the tune 288 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: of a seventy two cash season. So he made the 289 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: most of his opportunity when it was put in front 290 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: of him, and you know he's part laid that into 291 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: a nice three year contract extension. So happy for Logan Thomas. Yeah, 292 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: that's that's an incredible transition to make, and he's done 293 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: it really with flying colors. I mean, think about other 294 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: players who have tried it, and it's been you know, 295 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: Mediocres a seventy two catch season from that position. That's big. Yeah. 296 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen basketball players make the successful 297 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: transition to tight end, whether it's Tony Gonzalez or Antonio Gates, 298 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and there have been others, but a player from another 299 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: position transitioning to tight end that wasn't a receiver prior, 300 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: that's pretty rare. So it's I was happy for him. 301 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: I was glad to see that. The other news that 302 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: we need to discuss here, Steve, is in regards to 303 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: what is what every team in the league is dealing 304 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: with today. It's veteran report day, and some of these 305 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: teams had their rookies come in earlier, the Bills among them, 306 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: they were in last week already. You can have your 307 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: rookies come in earlier if you so choose. The Bills 308 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: and probably about six to seven other teams did that. 309 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: The Jets were one of those teams, and they did 310 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: not have Zach Wilson in camp because he has yet 311 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: to signed his rookie contract. The only unsigned first round 312 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: picks as of this morning were Zach Wilson and the Jets, 313 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: Trey Lance of the forty nine ers, and Rashawn Slater 314 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: of the Chargers. The offensive tackle. So we talk about 315 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: the Jets Steve all the time, and I'm not gonna 316 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: feel sorry for them because a lot of the times 317 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: they can't get out of their own way. But you 318 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: think about what is going on here. In the span 319 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: of the last week and a half, they lose their 320 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: offensive assistant, Greg Knapp in a tragic bicycle accident where 321 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: he was hit by a car riding his bike out 322 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: in California. He succumbs to those injuries and passes away 323 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: tragically at age fifty eight. And now your players are 324 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: reporting to camp. Zach Wilson is your guy. Their backups 325 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: are completely unproven. They do not have a veteran quarterback 326 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: on the roster to hold the fort if. In fact, 327 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson missus practice starting tomorrow, right, So you're all 328 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: ready dealing with the setback of losing one of the 329 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: members of your coaching staff to an untimely passing, and 330 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: now you don't even have the guy who's supposed to 331 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: be the guy coming to camp today. Yeah, that's it's 332 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: the Jets that could be construed as a tough break. 333 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: And I know it's only day one, they haven't even 334 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: hit the field yet. Maybe he gets it done tonight 335 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: and he gets there tomorrow and it doesn't mean a 336 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: hill of beans. So I don't know, I just I 337 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: just it's just another thing in a series of things 338 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: that always seems to set the Jets back in some way, 339 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: shape or form. But I think it's I think it's 340 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: magnified because they don't have a Josh McCown or a 341 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick as a veteran mentor be like, all right, guys, 342 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, Zack's gonna get here in a couple of days. 343 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: Let's just all chill. Let's get some work done out 344 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: here on the field today. They have that guy, right, 345 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: that's and that's that's by their own that's their own 346 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: decision to do that too, because and perhaps now I 347 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: see the logic behind it, although in this situation, now 348 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're backed up into a corner 349 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: and now you can't get out of it. But here's 350 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: what I think they did that for a reason, because, 351 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: as bad as it sounds, a guy like say, for instance, 352 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: the Jets signed Matt Barkley, Yeah, Zach Wilson can't beat 353 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley out in the head of Oh, you know, 354 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: I think though, no, he's got I would say this, 355 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson has superior physical traits right to that. If 356 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Matt Barkley, Matt Barkley could run the Matt Barkley, it 357 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: would be like it'd be like going up against somebody 358 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: like fits, somebody within a ton of experience. Yeah, in 359 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: different offensive sets. Um has got you know, games under 360 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: his belt recently, like you know, the week seventeen last year, 361 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: and then and you know Barkley comes in. He'd beat 362 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: that team off the street coming in in twenty nineteen. 363 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: That's how Barkley made his game, his his way on 364 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: the Bill's roster. He beat the Jets. So you bring 365 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: a guy like that in the moment, it will be 366 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: too big for him. He'll beat a guy like Zach 367 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Wilson out, and the Jets can't have that Yeah, so 368 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: they need to have and those two guys I always 369 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: talk about Charlie Bag of Donuts and you know, namely 370 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: James Morgan their fourth round pick in twenty twenty and 371 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Mike White just a free agent pick up from formerly 372 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: of the Niners. So so they gotta have those guys 373 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: like that on the team because they can't have anybody 374 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: in there that's gonna threatened Zach Wilson. They need him 375 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: to out and outwin the job because he comes in 376 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: and Matt Barkley is better than he is even on 377 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: Week one of his rookie season. It's a problem for 378 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: in the New York market. Yeah, and you know, I 379 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: whether it drags on or not, we'll just have to 380 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: wait and see if it does. How long do you 381 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: think it takes before they sign a veteran maybe like 382 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: Aim Matt Barkley. Does it have to go a week? 383 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't go a week without a number 384 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: one quarterback. They won't sign Hi Matt. I don't think 385 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: they'll ever sign him, Matt Barkley. They'll sign another, you know, 386 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: guy off the street. They'll they'll sign another camp on 387 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: it just to take reps. That's it. That's the only 388 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: point just to take so they can run practice. James 389 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: Morgan is your starter, and Zach Wilson shows up, Sweet Jesus, 390 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean they'll get him signed. I mean how much. 391 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: They don't have a choice, right, don't get signed. Don't 392 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: you think the Jets are more? Are? It would be 393 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: who the Jets more to get this deal done. I mean, 394 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson can hang out, you know, Oh, he's totally 395 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: in the driver. I mean, you know, he probably wants 396 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: to be there so we can get his career off 397 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: to a good start. But I think at the same time, 398 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: the Jets, I mean they gotta be biting their fingernails 399 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: and their toe nails on this. We gotta get this 400 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: thing done. Well, it depends on who's you know, who 401 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: knows what. If the Jets are sitting there and they're 402 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: telling Robert so we're gonna sign him, just gives him 403 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna sign him tonight, it's gonna be done 404 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: that kind of And I would anticipate it is because 405 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: it's a cookie cutter deal, Brownie. I mean, they don't 406 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: they don't have that much wiggle room to begin with. 407 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Ye unless the holes he's rights right, unless there's something 408 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: about the guarantees or something. Then the numbers set. I mean, 409 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: how much you kind of know what it's gonna be. 410 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: So how it structure where when he gets the money whatever, whatever, 411 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how how tough can it be? So that's 412 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: why I'm not really worried about. Again, that's exactly why 413 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: the rookie wage scale is what it is. So this 414 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing, so you won't remember, we used to 415 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: have guys holding out all through trading camp into the 416 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: regular season. It happened all the time. And so that's 417 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: what this whole rookie wage s tale is about. And 418 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: I think it'll work in this case as well. Yeah, 419 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: Trey Lands still unsigned with the Niners. Rashaun Slater, the 420 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Northwestern, still unsigned with the Chargers 421 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC. Steve Yeah not. I mean, 422 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: once we saw the rumors, you knew it was going 423 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Sure, it's about money. It's a business, no 424 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: question about it. It's not it's not supposed to happen 425 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty five. I think that lasts for about 426 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: a year. Don't you think they're playing in the SEC 427 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: as early as twenty twenty two. Yeah, like, maybe not 428 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: this year, but by next year they're gonna be in 429 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: there well when the dust settles, because what will happen 430 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: is they'll leave. They'll they'll both go from their respective conference. 431 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: They'll go over to the SEC and what is it 432 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: the twelve the Big twelve? Might it might You might 433 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: have a number of teams going into the a SEC 434 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: or the or the Big ten or the Pac twelve 435 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: as well. Because what you know, what happens, Steve, Like, 436 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: as soon as a couple of teams leave, especially when 437 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it's the two biggest ones in your conference, nobody wants 438 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: to be it becomes lightning round musical chairs. Nobody wants 439 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: to be left without a chair to sit in or 440 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: a conference with which to affiliate. Now they're all going 441 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: to start doing the same thing. Yep, they'll have to 442 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: invite some quality programs either into the Big twelve. But 443 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: here's what, here's why this has all happened. The conferences 444 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: want it's now going into these super conference things where 445 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: you've got like fifteen or twenty schools in the conference. 446 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Like the Big ten is not the Big ten anymore, 447 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: it's like the Big fifteen. Right, So they got the 448 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: Big fifteen sixteen because those schools will be high enough 449 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: quality to get into bowl games. Bowl games bring money in. 450 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: The money gets split among the teams in the conference. 451 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Everybody makes more money. Everybody makes more money. Even the 452 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: Northwestern universities in the Indianas of the world make football 453 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: money because they get it from Michigan Ohio State bowl games, 454 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: you know, Michigan State bowl games. That's how the Super 455 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: conferences work. All these teams from the SEC get into 456 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: all these bowl games and they wipe it up. They 457 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: all get multimillion dollar bonuses that get split between the 458 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: SEC teams. And that's that's why this is gonna go. 459 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: And you know, the Big twelve is going to have 460 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: to adapt or die. The question is can you attract 461 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: a big time enough school not to be an afterthought 462 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: when it comes to the National Championship and the College 463 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: Football Playoff. Yeah, and so Texas and Oklahoma. I saw 464 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: it reported today that estimates have it that once they 465 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: go to the SEC, adding those two schools will help 466 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: the conference generate an additional billion dollars, an additional billion dollars. Yeah, 467 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: and here's the big whatever billion they make already. Well, 468 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: here's the big problem for the Big twelve. The reason 469 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: that teams are leaving they don't have their own television network. 470 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: The Big ten does, the ACC does, the SEC does, 471 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve does. Yeah, I think the Big twelve 472 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: does not have their own television network, and their revenue 473 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: generating abilities were compromised by that so much so that 474 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma said, uh, yeah, we're gonna go over 475 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: with the big boys in the SEC. Thanks for coming. 476 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: And this is the way it works. You got a 477 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Big twelve network or the SEC network and all that. 478 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: What it means is all those people that are fans. 479 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: If you're an SEC fan and you got the SEC network, 480 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: you're paying a couple of bucks a month for the 481 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: rights to that network in your cable package, and you 482 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: multiply that by millions of people, and you've got a 483 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: couple of hundred million bucks a month coming in money 484 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: talks and everything else walks. I think unbelievable. I think 485 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the most interesting layer to that, to the whole ou 486 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: in Texas migration to the SEC is Texas A and 487 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: M had no clue. They're already in the SEC and 488 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: have been since like twenty fourteen. Nobody told them squat 489 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: and you know that the biggest part of their recruiting 490 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: in the state of Texas and probably Oklahoma for that 491 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: we're the only Texas school in the SEC. You want 492 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: to compete at the highest level, you come to Texas, 493 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: A and M. Yeah, because we're on the field with Clemson, 494 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: We're on the field with Alabama, We're on the field 495 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: with LSU. Texas is on the field with Oklahoma State. Yeah, 496 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: that's all out the door. Now they don't have that 497 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: stick to wave around anymore. So it's gonna be very 498 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: interesting to see what that does with respect to recruiting 499 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: wars going forward, chiefly in football. But I I fear 500 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: that this is the end of the Big Twelve, Steve. 501 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: That's a conference you grew up watching. It was the 502 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: Big Eight back then eight. But now now that thing 503 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: might be dead on a rival because you don't have 504 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: enough schools that are strong across the board in football 505 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: and basketball to keep it afloat. Like, well, you got 506 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: schools like Kansas kus great basketball program. They you know, 507 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: the football is virtually non existent even in the state. Yeah, 508 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: Kansas State, same thing, Iowa State mediocre, right, Missouri, Missouri's 509 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: got a basketball program wait, Missouri's already in the SEC. 510 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: That's right. Missouri left, Yeah, that's another one, Missouri and 511 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: A and M left right. So Colorado, I mean, what 512 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: do you talking about here? It's just oof with a 513 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: capital oh man. Right, Well, they're gonna and think about this, brownie, 514 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? What's the Big twelve do? 515 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Where do they go to get schools that are high 516 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: profile enough to raise the level of the conference back 517 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: to what it was? You're gonna go what he got, 518 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: Boise State, that's your best option right now. You gotta 519 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: pull out of the Mountain West, right. I mean, I 520 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: don't know what your by. You. I don't know what 521 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: you do. I really and I can't even tell you 522 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: who what schools are out there? You know Utah? I 523 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: think Utah's in the Pac twelve now, yeah, I mean 524 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna try and entice schools out of one conference 525 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: and back into the Big twelve. Not gonna happen. Once again, 526 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: Big twelve does not have its own television network. It's 527 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna sink them. It's gonna be ultimately what sinks of 528 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: I think we are seeing the last vestiges of the 529 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Big twelve conference because it's just gonna teams are just 530 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna scramble to jump into other conferences, and it's gonna 531 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: be like I said, it's gonna be these super conferences. 532 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: The Power five conferences are probably gonna turn into the 533 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: Power three. West Virginia is going to go to the ACC, 534 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: which makes more geographical sense. You know, Kansas is gonna 535 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: be lucky to find a suitor. They may have to 536 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: go play in the All American Conference. It might be 537 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: that the that KU will go to the ACC for basketball, 538 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they just might become 539 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: a basketball school like Saint John's or someplace. You know. Yeah, 540 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Saint John's is playing in the the new Big East, 541 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: which is barely big rum. But you know what I mean, Yeah, 542 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. KU schools like Indiana who 543 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: are and who are in Kentucky schools who are basketball first. Uh, 544 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: you can see that effect maybe the decisions that higher 545 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 1: ups make. But even so, think about it, Brownie. With 546 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: the nil you know, legislation, maybe you've got kids who 547 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: start playing four years of basketball instead of being one 548 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: and done. Yeah, so and then you could get then 549 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: you could start generating more money and revenues by having 550 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: kids stay in school that long, and it does become 551 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a star driven sport. It's gonna 552 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: be very interesting to see where that goes because there's 553 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: only so many more dominoes that can fall, and there's 554 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: only so many chairs to go around. For these teams 555 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: that are left in the Big twelve, some will be 556 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: more attractive and more attractively, you know, they're more attractive 557 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: to conferences that might have an open spot. Like West 558 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Virginia has good basketball, good football, and an ACC. The 559 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: ACC makes sense. I could see them going there. There's 560 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: some other schools that don't have football and basketball to 561 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: offer as a package, like Kansas, and they might get 562 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: left hold in the bag and may have to go 563 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: to a to a strong basketball conference only like the 564 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: All American Conference, you know, which has teams like Houston 565 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: and others. That might be where Kansas has to go. TCU. 566 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: They have good football and basketball, they may go to 567 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. You got schools like Baylor, yeah, football, 568 00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: good basket, Illinois, Indiana, per Due, you know all these 569 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: schools that you know, some people, you know, some people 570 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: love and love very much, but they're not in a 571 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: national spotlight. Well, they're in the Big ten already, Iowa States, really, 572 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, So it's yeah, it's those are the type 573 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: schools that if you could, yeah, but those are the 574 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: type schools that are in the under the mid range 575 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: schools in the big conferences. I don't know if you're 576 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: pulling them out of there. You can't even get those schools, no, 577 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: because the money's too good where they are right now? Right, 578 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Where are you gonna get a school that is out 579 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: there like a Notre Dame, Right, there's no independence out there, 580 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Penn State. Notre Dame is by itself, and but it's 581 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna go what's it gonna do? Yeah, That's why I 582 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: fear that the Big twelve has, uh, it's beat, it's demise. 583 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: It's not going to be immediate, but it is inevitable 584 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: as I see it, because I just don't see them 585 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: with the ability to recruit schools to replace anything the 586 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: caliber of Ou or Texas. We have to take a break. 587 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: But before we do, we did want to set the 588 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: table on the Twitter poll. What is the one question 589 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: you hope to have clearly answered about the bills by 590 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: the end of training camp. Maybe you're going into camp saying, man, 591 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: I hope this question is answered by the time I'm 592 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: watching the season opener. What might that be? We're leaving 593 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: it open to you to tell us what you think 594 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: it should be. Eight oh three oh five fifty one 595 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty or hit us 596 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet let us know what's the 597 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: one question you hope the Bills have clearly answered by 598 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: the end of training camp. Steve and I back with 599 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the tweet sheet or your phone calls 600 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: at eight o three oh five fifty one eighty eight 601 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Plenty of other stuff on 602 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: the table, including and we'll touch on this what happened 603 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: with Simone Biles at the Olympics. She has pulled out. 604 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: She pulled out of the team competition. It's TBD as 605 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: to whether she will participate in any individual events going forward, 606 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: and it is tied to her own mental health. We 607 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: can get into that conversation a little bit later as well. 608 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Here on one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's 609 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio was live. Chris Brown Steve task her 610 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: with you here on a Tuesday, and before we get 611 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: to some of your thoughts on the tweet sheet. We 612 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: did want to bring this up. We saw the news 613 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: early this morning that Simone Biles pulled out of the 614 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: team competition in the women's gymnastics right after a vault. 615 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: She was ready to do her trademark vault maneuver that 616 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: really nobody else in the world can do, and in 617 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: the middle of the air, she basically cut it short 618 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: and didn't even land well, landed awkwardly, got a low score, 619 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: and then was whisked away, and essentially the word came 620 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: down that she had pulled out of the team events. 621 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: It was initially thought that she had sustained an injury, 622 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: but in a press conference a short time after the 623 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: competition was over, in which the women ultimately took silver, 624 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: So kudos to her teammates for kind of trying to 625 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: pick up the slack. It wasn't enough to beat the Russians, 626 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: but they got the silver medal as in team in 627 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: the team competition for women's gymnastics, and in the press 628 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: conference it was essentially revealed that this was not a 629 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: physical ailment issue, it was mental health. And I'm going 630 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: to pull a quote that CNN had from Simone Biles. 631 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: In the press conference, she said, quote, today has been 632 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: really stressful. We had to work out this morning. It 633 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: went okay, and then just that five and a half 634 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: hour break or something, I was just shaking. I could 635 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: barely nap. I just never get like this going into 636 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: a competition before. And I tried to go out here 637 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: and have fun and warm ups in the back went 638 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: a little bit better. But once I came out here, 639 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I was like, no, mental's not there, So I just 640 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: need to let the girls do it and focus on myself. 641 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: End quote. Now, first things first, Steve, I've got to 642 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: say for a twenty four year old to recognize that 643 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: she is not in the mental state of mind to 644 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: compete at the level she needs to to help her 645 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: team win, and then have the guts to say, look, 646 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: I just don't have the mental acuity that I need 647 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: to perform at my best. I gotta I gotta pull out. 648 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: First of all, that's got to be very hard, especially 649 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: in a team setting. It's one thing if she's doing 650 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: an individual event and she's getting all the individual scoring, 651 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: but knowing you are Simone Biles, you are quite possibly 652 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: the best female athlete on the planet, and to have 653 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: enough presence of mind to recognize that your mental health 654 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: is not there to perform the way you need to 655 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: for your team and then pull out. That's a pretty 656 00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: brave thing to do. Yeah, number one. And then on 657 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: a second level, Steve, I think we are seeing in 658 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: recent weeks, you know, Naomi Osaka pulls out of the 659 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: what was it, the French Open, I want to say, 660 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: or Wimbledon. You're right, sorry, Wimbledon because she and she 661 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: cited her mental health is the reason for doing that 662 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and just needing a break. I think we're seeing evidence 663 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: that the stress level on athletes at the highest level 664 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: of their respective sports is intense, and a lot of 665 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: times these athletes, somehow, some way have overcome it over 666 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: the years. But I think there is greater freedom to 667 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: just say, look, mentally, I am drained. I got nothing here. 668 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: I can't give you anymore. Am I physically capable? Probably? 669 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: But if you don't marry the physical and the mental 670 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: And you know this, Steve, because you've computed at the 671 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: highest level of your sport, it's very hard to make 672 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: it happy. Well, I'll tell you this. Pro athletes are 673 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: pretty in tune with what they're doing physically and how 674 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: they feel and Simone probably made the call said, listen, 675 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: I'm other girls on the team are gonna do better 676 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: than I am today. You know, I'm I'm not going 677 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. The warm ups weren't good. 678 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: I am not feeling it. And we talked about this. 679 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Think about the atmosphere these these girls and these girls guys, 680 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: all of them. Think about the atmosphere they're competing and 681 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: it's completely different than anything they've trained to do. They're 682 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: by themselves in Tokyo, isolated, secluded. Everybody's wearing masks, Their 683 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: families can't be there. All the reasons they do it 684 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: for the fun and enjoyment have been sapped out of 685 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: this competition. No fans, no loved ones watching you. Even 686 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: your teammates are you know, distant, and you don't see 687 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: them like you do away from the field. When they 688 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: go away from the venues, they're all, you know, the seclude. 689 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: They're all sequestered. And it's the pressures of the Olympic 690 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: Games in which you have which everything's focused on. Particularly 691 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: in some of these Olympic sports, this is it, you know, gymnastics, 692 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: there are the world Championships, certainly in the US championships 693 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: and that those are big events, but on a world stage, 694 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing like the Olympics. It's once every four years 695 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: and you don't get that many shots at it. The 696 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: pressure that you put on yourself to be there and 697 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: be on it is huge. And then to go there 698 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: and have it to be an kind of environment where 699 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: you can't thrive and can't prepare for that. And she 700 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: made the call to say, listen, I I won't be 701 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: as good as some of the other girls doing this. 702 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: Let them do their routines instead of me, because I 703 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: Am not going to help them. I think it's indicative 704 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: of how far behind the support staff and the IOC 705 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: is behind the mental aspects of sports they control. I 706 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: think they have. They have grossly underestimated the impact of 707 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: athletes not having their inner circle of support with them. 708 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: In Japan, I mean, you've got your I'm watching the 709 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: swimmers last night. Their parents are watching at a watch 710 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: party in Atlanta or wherever they are, and I'm thinking 711 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: to myself, my God, and the girl won anyway, the 712 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: girl from Alaska with that great celebration who won the 713 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: breast lydia. Jacoby's seventeen years old. She's seventeen years old, 714 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: she did, and in a place she's never been before, 715 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, go swim at the highest level, 716 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: go win, and by the way, your family will be 717 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: half a world away. And maybe there wasn't any pressure 718 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: on a girl like that because there were no expectations. 719 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: But for the people like Simone Biles, who's supposed to 720 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: that world. She act Alie said that. She said that 721 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: in the press conference two days ago. She said, Look, 722 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four years old. Now stuff hurts on my 723 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: body like it didn't five years ago. So stuff's hurting 724 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: every day, which I know is something you could probably 725 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: relate to that you experienced later in your career. And 726 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: that's an extra mental hurdle you've got to clear just 727 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: to get back to the level of competition. You know, 728 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: you need to compete at to have a chance at 729 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: being successful, and then to not have the fans in 730 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: the stands. You know, you get that wave of emotion 731 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: that kind of snaps you out of maybe some kind 732 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: of funk you might be in, or maybe you talk 733 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: to your parents or whoever is in your inner circle. 734 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: The night before the competition, they're like, look, you got this, 735 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, they build you back up, right, that's not 736 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: there at the Olympic help you put it. They help 737 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: you put everything in perspective. And for somebody's twenty four, 738 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: like Simone Bios who's by at twenty four, she's like 739 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: a grizzled veteran of the international gym nastic scene. She's 740 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: been doing it for six years, right, for five years, 741 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: she is she is a hilarious really yeah, she's an 742 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: experienced competitor. And she also as a result of what 743 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: she's done in the Olympic, this is you know, she's 744 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of writing on this for her future financially, 745 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of companies that have signed her relationships she 746 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: wants to foster and cultivate. Than to have all of 747 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: that on top of being ready to go at your 748 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: best and then getting there physically and you're hurting, you're 749 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: aching the situation, the environments all wrong, and then to 750 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: have to go out there and do that, you just know, 751 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: you know that you're not going to be able to 752 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: pull up because I'm just because I'm just thinking for 753 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: those people, those athletes who are in individual sports, you 754 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: could make the argument they don't even have teammates to 755 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: lean on now. In gymnastics, they're in the team competition. Yeah, 756 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: but they're all looking to her. Yeah, but brit Or, 757 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 1: they say it's a advice. They say it's a team. 758 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: But that's just because they're counting all their scores together. 759 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: It's not like they train. They train together once they 760 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: get on the Olympic team and they get to know 761 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: each other a little bit better. Plus they compete against 762 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: each other as well. But these girls are from like, 763 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: they're everywhere, scattered across the US. Like you got girls 764 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: from Alaska swimming, you know, And she's going and this 765 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 1: girl's seventeen year Lydia Jacobe is gonna go to Texas 766 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: University to swim. You think she knows the girl in 767 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: lane five who's also on the US team, who's from California, 768 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: probably competed against her in the trials. And you say, 769 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: you say their teammates. That's not a teammate to me. 770 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: A teammate is somebody that you go in the locker 771 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: room with every day for years. Football. Basketball, It's different. 772 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: You say, they say, oh, it's a team. Her team 773 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: will rally around. They don't even know each other. They 774 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: seriously there, they get thrown together in the Olympics, and 775 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: they just count their scores together. It's not like they 776 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: they don't even play catch together. I mean, they don't 777 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: do anything together. One's routine is their routine, and I 778 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: just hope they do their best because their score counts 779 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: on your score. I mean, it's not the same. Like, 780 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: So don't expect like the gymnastics teammates to come to 781 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: the rescue of Simone Biles. They don't even know each 782 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: other that well, so her support staff's not there, and 783 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: who knows who? Who has a mental coach, a mental 784 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: health coach, sports theologist or think, yeah, you think the 785 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: US Olympic. Obviously they don't. Yeah, who thinks about such 786 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: things these days? You got now it's maybe on our 787 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: radar shirt now now they probably should more than ever. 788 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: Too late now, well it is too late now, and 789 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate and we'll have to see where it goes. 790 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: They said that Simone Biles will be considered for individual 791 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: events on a daily basis, Like where is your head at? 792 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: You feel good doing this? I thought it was. I 793 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: was shocked when I heard her say I don't even 794 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: have confidence in my own body to do some of 795 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: the same things that I to do. This is an 796 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: athlete that I think, unquestionably is the best female athlete 797 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: on the planet. She can do things no other woman 798 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 1: on the planet can do. She has moves named after 799 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: her right and now she doesn't have the mental confidence 800 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: to do it. It's crazy. We have to take a break. 801 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: We're way over. We will step aside here, but when 802 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: we come back, we will try to get to your 803 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: initial thoughts on the tweet sheet. And then coming up 804 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: in the second hour of our show, Ben voland from 805 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: the Boston Globe. We got to talk some patriots with 806 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: him as they have report day up there in New England, 807 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, what's going on with the new receivers 808 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: and the tight ends, and all of their editions, including 809 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: the Stefan Gilmour situation. We'll get updates on all of 810 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: that from Ben Volan a little bit later in the show. 811 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Killot of Health, 812 00:45:50,760 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, and we're back if you here 813 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. And we just got done with 814 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: a conversation on someone Biles pulling out the Olympics crazy, 815 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: citing mental health as the major issue. And you think 816 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: about the enormous pressure on her, not only from her 817 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: own younger teammates looking to her for answers, but to 818 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: perform at the level that made her the best athlete 819 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: on the planet. I hope she's all right going forward. 820 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: We wanted to get your thoughts on the tweet sheet 821 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: as today's Twitter poll topic is what's the one question 822 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: you hope to have clearly answered on this Bill's team 823 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: by the end of training camp. Obviously, there are some 824 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: questions that are more pressing than others in terms of 825 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: needing answers, and we were curious what was at the 826 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: top of your list in that regard. And Andrew leads 827 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: us off on the tweet sheet brought to you by 828 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: cor And Moving Systems, the official equipment moving provider of 829 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. And Andrew says, who is going to 830 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: be the starting running back? I don't know that there's 831 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: going to be a true starting running back. I mean, 832 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: obviously there'll be a depth chart and there'll be somebody 833 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: listed there. But it was, you know, before Zach Moss 834 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Most of the playoffs due to injury, 835 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: it generally was whoever was performing well stayed in there 836 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: more often it was a pretty healthy rotation for the 837 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: most part, Steve, I would anticipate that to continue unless 838 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: somebody is far and away a better option each and 839 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: every week. Yeah, I'm I could not possibly care less 840 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: who takes the first snap of the game, because that's 841 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: all the running back is for the Bills. I mean, 842 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: it's the running game is a compliment to the passing game. 843 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: We've seen games where Zach Moss was the carried the 844 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: bulk of the load and times when Devin Singletary carried 845 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: the bulk of the load. I think would be a 846 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: bigger story if there was a number one Bell cow 847 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: back coming out of this camp. I think that would 848 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: be the bigger story. I think that we anticipate there 849 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: being a running back by committee like there was last 850 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: year Zach Mostevans, Singletary, Matt Brita, a combination thereof whoever 851 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: and whoever is having the most success gets the most 852 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: carries that week. There is no running back that is 853 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: going to be the guy, or there hasn't been a 854 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: running back who's been the guy, so you know, to 855 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: say who is going to be the starting running back, 856 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: there hasn't been one in Sean McDermott's time here. I 857 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 1: think a bigger story was if there is actually one 858 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: at all, which I doubt there will be. And I 859 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: think the running back that probably is going to see 860 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: the most time on the field is going to be 861 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: the guy that displays the most versatile skill set, because 862 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: this is not going to be a traditional running back role. 863 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a guy that's going to have 864 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: to demonstrate an ability to pass protect consistently and an 865 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: ability to catch out of the backfield and make plays 866 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: and space. Yeah, that's the guy that's gonna get the 867 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: most time on the field, right. It's gonna whoever gives 868 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: Brian Dable more tools in his toolbox with him on 869 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: the field, gives the offense more flexibility. Running back that 870 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: can catch run routes, get open split wide, pick up 871 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: the blitz on pass protection, power run, speed, run. You know, 872 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: whoever gives him the most you know, complete skill set 873 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: or compliments the other guys on the offense the best 874 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: is gonna get the gonna get the call. I think, 875 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: and we said this last year, Bran, I don't think 876 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: there's that much difference between Devin Singletary and Zach Moss. 877 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: They're the same type of running back, you know, right 878 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: around Zach Moss probably a little heavier, but a little heavier, 879 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, but they're the same guy. Matt Breed is 880 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: a little different. He's got breakaway speed. But if Devin 881 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: Singletary's dropped two tents on his forty time like he 882 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,479 Speaker 1: says he has now he does. So is it gonna 883 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: be Devin Singletary Matt Breeder or is it gonna be 884 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: Zach Moss and Matt Breeder? Or is it gonna be 885 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary and Matt Zach Moss. You know who's what 886 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: combination of those two or three are going to be 887 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,439 Speaker 1: in there? Or does Antonio Williams get into the mix 888 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: for some reasons? Does he brings something at the table? Yeah, 889 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: starting running back, I gotta shrug my shoulders. That is 890 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 1: not the one question I hope to have clearly answered 891 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: by the end of training camp. Yeah, because you're not 892 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: going to have a traditional running back pecking order like 893 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: you do in Tennessee, for example, with Derrick Henry. It's 894 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: not going to be that way here at all, not 895 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: only because of who you have on the roster, but 896 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: the style of offense that you run here in Buffalo, 897 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 1: break time for Steve and I. When we return, Boston, 898 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: Globe NFL writer Ben Voland will be joining us, will 899 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 1: be checking in with him with Buffalo's division rival in 900 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: New England. See what's going on there as far as 901 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are concerned. There's a whole lot of other intrigue 902 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: there as well. What happens with Stefan Gilmore and the 903 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: business of football and the Patriots, along with what's going 904 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: on with Nikil Harry who wants out of there via trade? 905 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: Does Mac Jones really have a chance to overtake Cam 906 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: Newton and be the starting quarterback Week one? Ben, We'll 907 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: have some of those answers for us when we return 908 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, 909 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio and a Steve Tsker who has 910 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: been all over the field kind of unique. He was 911 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: kind of a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve 912 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the straded beer of normalcy. 913 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: And welcome to Howard number two, Chris Brown, Steve Tsker 914 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday one Bills Live and please to 915 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: be joined now my senior NFL writer for the Boston Globe, 916 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: also host of the Benvillin Football Hour on w EI Radio. Yes, 917 00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: it is in fact Ben voland joining us to help 918 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: us talk all things Patriots. Is It is veteran report 919 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: day for a lot of teams across the league for 920 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: the start of training camp as most teams will be 921 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: on the field tomorrow. Ben, thanks for taking the time. 922 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 1: How you doing. You're ready to rock and roll here 923 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty one. Absolutely. We had our first zoom 924 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: call with Bill Belichick today and he gave us a 925 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: lot of Yeah, we're not going to go into that 926 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,720 Speaker 1: right now, and I don't talk about personal situations, and 927 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: he gave us a few. It is what it is. 928 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: So it's football feeds and it's back. It feels great 929 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: to be back. Do you think, how do you think 930 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: it plays out here in training camp? What's going to 931 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: be different this year for the Patriots in training camp? Well, 932 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots, like most teams, are navigating this. 933 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: You know a lot of new rules, both with COVID, 934 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: A lot of some of the COVID stuff is a 935 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: continuation of last year. But now you know half the 936 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: team is vaccinated, half is not. But then just the 937 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: training camp schedule really condensed. Now, obviously only three preseason games, 938 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 1: so every you know, the rest in those games become 939 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: more important, fewer opportunities for the coaches to evaluate. But 940 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: then there's also like a week of ramp up to activity. 941 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: Belichick noted this morning that the Patriots probably aren't going 942 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: to put on the pads until like Monday, you know, 943 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: fifth five practices in, So there's not a ton of 944 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 1: opportunities for say a Matt Jones to beat out at 945 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, or for younger guys to make an impression 946 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: or what have you. It's just American densed training camp. 947 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: You know, every team is dealing with the same thing, 948 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: so it's not like they're at a disadvantage. You know. 949 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 1: The other big thing with the other big story with 950 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots I think is they imported a new team. 951 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: They have I think eleven new starters and you know, 952 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: almost thirty new free agents from last year and significant players. 953 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: Guys are gonna play big roles Matthew Judean Hunter, Henry 954 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: John new Smith, Nelson Aghaloor, on and on. So they 955 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: brought in all, you know, eleven new starters, and usually 956 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 1: winning in free agency doesn't lead to winning during a fall, 957 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: it's tough to make the pieces fit, so they've got 958 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: less time, you know, less real practice to bring it 959 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: all together, and they have a lot of new pieces. 960 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: So that's going to be an interesting challenge for Bill 961 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: Belichick to navigate this year. I'm gonna take a wild 962 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: guess that you didn't get a straight answer on this one, Ben, 963 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 1: But I'm assuming that Coach Belichick was asked about the 964 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: vaccination rate of his team. Did he provide an answer 965 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: or did he at least provide an answer as to 966 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 1: whether or not they can kind of conduct business almost 967 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: as normal. He shockingly did not provide an answer. I 968 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: asked him if he knew the percentage of players, and 969 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: he said no, he didn't. He just said a lot 970 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: of them. I don't get the sense that the Patriots 971 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: are at the very top of the league, you know, 972 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: I think today fourteen teams have at least to me, 973 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: if the Patriots were one of these teams, and probably 974 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 1: would have heard about it, you know, through back channels 975 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: or what have you. But just in general, I mean, 976 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 1: most of the players around the league are getting vaccinated. 977 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: Eighty five percent a players league wide have gotten at 978 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: least one shot or in the process of doing it. 979 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: And I think those numbers are going to continue to 980 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: rise as players realize that, you know, the rules kind 981 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: of stink. If you're not vaccinated. You're not allowed to 982 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: leave town on the Bible to say and get tested 983 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 1: every day. You're not allowed to leave the hotel, you know, 984 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: during a road trip, you're allowed to see family, go 985 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: out for dinner. Just the NFL is really making life 986 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: as difficult as possible for you. And then there's a 987 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 1: whole other thing about how if, if you know, an 988 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: outbreak of among unvaccinated players, you know, causes the game 989 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: to be canceled or what have you. Everyone's missing game 990 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: checks and everyone managed the players. It's just a whole 991 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: big mess now. So the NFL really is doing their 992 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: best to make life as difficult as possible for players 993 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: who don't want to get the vaccine. The Patriots, again, 994 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't know their exact number, but you know, it's 995 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: certainly a large majority of their players have gotten the vaccine. 996 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: And I think those numbers will continue to rise, like 997 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: I said, because players are gonna realize that life is 998 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: going to be very difficult if you don't get the shot. 999 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: And there's there's no way the league or even the 1000 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: Patriots and the clubs themselves could make it any more 1001 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: clearer that they want everybody to get the vaccine. I mean, 1002 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: is it true the Patriots are giving away free vaccines 1003 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: at training camp, plus free concessions to everybody, to anybody 1004 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: who gets vaccinated. There yet Robert Craft set up a 1005 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: mobile vaccination site. Yeah, on the grounds of Toilette Stadium 1006 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: for fans. I think you know, the first four days 1007 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: for practice this week Wednesday through Saturday, any fan that 1008 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: wants to get the vaccine, if you show up, you 1009 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: do it, and you get a twenty five dollars credit 1010 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: for concessions at training camp, and you get a free 1011 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 1: entry into the Patriots Hall team on the grounds of 1012 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: Gilette Stadium as well. So yeah, I mean, they're really 1013 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: pushing it, encouraging it. I think, you know, not that 1014 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm the scientists, but the research has shown time and 1015 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: again that vaccination is clearly the best way to fight 1016 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: off COVID, and the NFL is certainly making a big 1017 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: push and a lot of the team. You know, the 1018 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: Patriots aren't the only team doing this, several other teams 1019 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: are as well. But you know, like that all these 1020 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: NFL stadiums were basically mass vaccination sites the spring to 1021 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: begin with, and I think just a lot of teams 1022 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: are continuing that now and they want to be able 1023 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: to return to normal as quickly as possible. Ben, what 1024 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: I know you wrote about this earlier this month in 1025 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: the Boston Globe, how it's just business between the Patriots 1026 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: and Gilmore, and Gilmore obviously feels he's deserving of a raise. 1027 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: We know the long term history of this organization and 1028 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: what it has been for the longest time, and we 1029 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: can run down the list of defensive backs who were 1030 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: forced to move on when they didn't get a raise 1031 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: or they were just released outright, ty law lawyer malloy. 1032 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean we can go Yeah, that's going back fifteen 1033 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: eighteen years. That's been their practice more often than not. 1034 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: Does it change now? Does their way of doing business 1035 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: change at all? Because they don't have the Trump card 1036 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady anymore to kind of cover up, you know, 1037 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: deficiencies if they don't hold on to top players like 1038 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. Yeah, that might be part of it a 1039 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: little bit. I do think Tom Brady factors into this, 1040 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: but only in the sense that I think they're kind 1041 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: of chasing him now. And Tom Brady I think made 1042 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: the Patriots, let's say it didn't make him look too 1043 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 1: good last year by you know, leaving town and going 1044 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: and winning a Super Bowl while the Patriots went seven 1045 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: to nine. So I think this whole off season was about, 1046 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, getting back to that championship level and kind 1047 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: of responding to the challenge by Tom Brady. And so 1048 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, the team clearly wants to win. They spent 1049 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: a record one hundred and seventy five million fully guaranteed 1050 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: on all their free agency offseason. Just a wild spending 1051 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: spree that I don't think the NFL has ever really 1052 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: seen before and very out of character for the Patriots. 1053 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: And so for me, yeah, you're right. For the most part, 1054 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: they play the Patriots play hardball with contracts, and guys 1055 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: like Logan Mankins, even Vince Willford they got to ship 1056 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: out account at the end when they were upset about 1057 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: their contracts. But Stephan Gilmore is a different animal. And 1058 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: I know he's going to be thirty one years old 1059 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: this fault, but he's still their best cornerback and one 1060 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,439 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. And for a team 1061 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: that's going for it and just spent one hundred and 1062 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: seventy five million fully guaranteed. It would be I think, 1063 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: very foolish for them to just move on and you 1064 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: trade away their top cornerback, not resolve this situation over 1065 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: what like three or four million dollars. I mean, they've 1066 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: come this far, They've got to bring back Gilmore. They've 1067 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 1: got to resolve this situation now. In the past, like 1068 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady was upset with his contract, Rob Gronkowski as well, 1069 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: and what the patrons end up doing was giving them incentive. 1070 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: You can make an extra four million, five million dollars 1071 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: based on playing time and stats and this than that, 1072 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: And so I think that's probably where step On Gilmore 1073 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: is headed. He's supposed to make eight million dollars this year. 1074 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants to be more in the fourteen fifteen, 1075 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: sixteen million range. I don't know if he's gonna get 1076 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: all the way up there, but if he's wont to 1077 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: take some incentives, then I think that's what's gonna sweeten 1078 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the pots for him. He didn't hold out, he reported 1079 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: the camp, but he might potentially hold in, you know, 1080 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 1: provide as little effort as possible as it takes not 1081 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: to get fined, but not really participating until the contract 1082 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: gets resolved. And he's on the pup list to start, 1083 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: so he can kind of take his time as he 1084 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: comes back from a torn quad. But I do expect 1085 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots to resolve it, and I think Gilmore will 1086 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 1: get a chance to earn several million more. It's just 1087 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: it might come in the form of incentives. And like 1088 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: I said, the Patriots would be foolish to get rid 1089 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 1: of their number one corner over a few billion dollars 1090 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: after all the money they spent and for everything that 1091 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to accomplish this year. How will it work 1092 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: out and how will it resolve itself? With Nikhil Harry, 1093 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I hope he knew what he 1094 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: was doing. You know, he comes out publicly or his 1095 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: agent doesn't. Said we're requesting a trade by the start 1096 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: of camp. There were rather start of camp, but obviously 1097 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: doesn't happened. And when your request to trade, it's hard 1098 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,560 Speaker 1: to come back from that. You know, How can the 1099 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: coaches be sure that you're bought in, that you're committed. 1100 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: How can your teammates trust you at this point? I mean, 1101 01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: he clearly wants out. I just I hope he knew 1102 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: that he was on the out, because well, I think 1103 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 1: they have three maybe four, you know, locks at receiver. 1104 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I still think the position for number five is wide open. 1105 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: And considering he's the first round pick, and considering he's 1106 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: only like one point eight million dollars and it's fully guaranteed, 1107 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I thought they would give him one more shot this 1108 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: year to see if he can turn it around. So 1109 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I hope when he made that, I hope for his sake, 1110 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: when he made that trade request, that he knew what 1111 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: he was doing, that he knew the coaches were gonna 1112 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 1: caught him or trade him or whatever. He was just 1113 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 1: trying to grease the skids a little bit. I mean, 1114 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: it obviously hasn't been working out for him, and I 1115 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: didn't at this point. You might have to just see 1116 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 1: what you can get for him. It might end up 1117 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: being a pick swap, you know, Nikkila Harry in a 1118 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: seventh for a fifth round pick. You know, send him, 1119 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: said to the Houston Texans with Nikissario, or maybe the 1120 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Saints no Arrow without Michael Thomas. You know, maybe they 1121 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: wanted to kill Harry. He's got you know, his salary 1122 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,000 Speaker 1: that year. It is fully guaranteed, so I might turn 1123 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: some teams off, but it's only, like I said, it's 1124 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: only one point seven million, but it's pretty cheap. So 1125 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought if I were the Patriots, 1126 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I would have given him another chance, just to see 1127 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: if he could turn it around this year. But maybe 1128 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 1: they know more. They obviously know more about him than 1129 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: I do, and maybe they just decided to move on. 1130 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: But I don't think. I don't know how you can 1131 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: turn back. Once he made the trade request. I think 1132 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: there's no going back, and I think they have to 1133 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: find a way to get rid of him one way 1134 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 1: or the other. Yeah, that is just very peculiar to me. 1135 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: For a guy who's done virtually nothing in the league 1136 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: to put all your eggs in one basket like that, Ben, 1137 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: that just it seems very foolhardy. Maybe he's that desperate, 1138 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 1: and maybe he is convinced that the coaching staff doesn't 1139 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: like him, would never put him on the field anyway. 1140 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but man, that's just that's like a 1141 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: last resort thing that you do, and for a young 1142 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 1: player like him to do that, I don't know. I 1143 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: was surprised by that. Yeah, and that makes me think 1144 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 1: that he knows that he's on the out and he 1145 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: just wants the trade to happen now instead of at 1146 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: the end of the camp. He wants a little more 1147 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: clarity and certainty of the situation. He also seems to 1148 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 1: have an agent who I don't I don't know much 1149 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: about him, and I don't want to disparage him at all, 1150 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know how his seasoned he is with 1151 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: clients and things like that. This might be the first 1152 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: time they're going through something like this. You know, maybe 1153 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: you make you regret something, you know, because they did 1154 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of take it back, they said, well, he's gonna report, 1155 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 1: he's going to do the best he can. Obviously doesn't 1156 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: want to get fined forty thousand dollars a day. But yeah, yeah, 1157 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah exactly. And to me, I mean to 1158 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: kill Harry. You should have put all your eggs into 1159 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: trying to make the team and trying to turn his 1160 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: career around and stead up worrying about getting traded, and 1161 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's obviously not a good sign that 1162 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: this is where he's at right now. How steep is 1163 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the mountain that Mac Joe Oones has to climb to 1164 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: be the guy that takes snaps on day one this year. 1165 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: I think that it is pretty steep because I just 1166 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: don't think Belichick. I think, in his heart of hearts, 1167 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't want to put a rookie out there right away. 1168 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen in the past rookies that play 1169 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: other positions linebacker, defensive end, like Chamler Jones or I 1170 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: remember Jamie Collins was a part time player his rookie year. 1171 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm linebacker as a position where guys can 1172 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: transition pretty easily from from college to the pros, and 1173 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: usually it's hard for rookie to really make an impact 1174 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. And then just quarterback position, obviously, there's 1175 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: so much that goes into it. And it's not just 1176 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: knowing the playbook, which I'm sure Mac Jones already knows cold. 1177 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: It's you know, reading the defenses and knowing how to 1178 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. And Mac Jones only had seventeen 1179 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: starts at the college level. I know it comes from 1180 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: a tremendous program and had an unbelievable season last year. 1181 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: I just I know Belichick really does like Cam Newton 1182 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: just attitude and his work ethic and what he what 1183 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: he brings to the table in that sense, you know, 1184 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: the fact that Cam is clearly on the downside of 1185 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: his career, has some shoulder troubles in the past. So 1186 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: it's not that deep. I mean, it's not like, you know, 1187 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: it's not like Tom Brady's in front of Mac Jones. 1188 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: It's it's possible, But I really do think Belichick wants 1189 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: to start the season with Cam Newton. You know, they 1190 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: have that Tom Brady game week four. I just I 1191 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: don't know if do you really want Mac Jones starting 1192 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: that game early in the season against Tom Brady at 1193 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: home in that environment. I feel like Cam Newton can 1194 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: definitely handle that. And look, I think Cam, even as 1195 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 1: poorly as he played, especially in the passing game last year, 1196 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 1: still won seven games. Had all kinds of I think 1197 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: legit excuses with COVID and that fourteen eights around him, 1198 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: and now they've they've certainly improved the weaponry around him, 1199 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and he's got another year in the system and all that, 1200 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: so you know, and then you add in the trunk 1201 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: at a training camp where there's just not gonna be 1202 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: too much time. So I do think Cam is almost 1203 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: most likely going to be the starter early in the season. 1204 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I think if Belichick has his way, can plays this year, 1205 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 1: which means that he's healthy and thing productive and they 1206 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: can fit mac Jones and have him learned. But you know, 1207 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: who knows, and seventeens are seventeen games in the long season, 1208 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: and Cam Newton, who knows how long he's gonna last. 1209 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 1: So it's certainly on the table for mac Jones. But 1210 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm still expecting Cam Newton. Yeah, I don't know, Ben, 1211 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Like while I'll agree that there are a lot of 1212 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 1: things that are more in Cam Newton's favor this time around. 1213 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned like it's a normal offseason, will 1214 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: have a full training camp, he'll actually get some preseason 1215 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: game action, second year in the system, better weapons, and 1216 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 1: all of that. Until I see it, what's gonna convince 1217 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 1: me that he's not going to throw bounce passes on 1218 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: twelve yard outs like he did last year Because the 1219 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 1: ultimate barometer here is going to be his level of execution. 1220 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 1: And I just can't see Belichick going more than two, 1221 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: maybe three games if Newton keeps performing in that fashion 1222 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: like we saw, and probably more than half of his 1223 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: outings last year it was god awful. He was a 1224 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 1: shell of his former self. Certainly that December game against Buffalo, 1225 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the first game where he fumbled at the end when 1226 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: they were going for the at least the tying score. 1227 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: He was playing much better than And yeah, certainly certainly 1228 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: disconcerning about Cam as he got worse as the season progressed, 1229 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: and he played some of his worst games in December. 1230 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: No question, he was bouncing throws and his accuracy could 1231 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: be scatter shot, and his arm strength is not nearly 1232 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: what it once was. I will say they probably simplified 1233 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: things for him by getting the two tight ends Johnny 1234 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Smiths and Hunter Henry. That'll give him a lot more 1235 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: defined reads. He'll know where to go with the ball. 1236 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: It's still gonna be a run heavy offense. And Cam, 1237 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I still think, even though we certainly looked for last year, 1238 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: he did some good things. He was a great runner, 1239 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 1: He was very efficient in short yard situations, are pretty 1240 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: decent and you know, like third down, red zone, short yardage, 1241 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: and then yeah, obviously it's just not there in the 1242 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: passing game, but you run the risk too. I mean, 1243 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,439 Speaker 1: none of us know yet where Mac Jones really isn't 1244 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: his development for some guys setting him out there right 1245 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 1: away to you know, take take those early scars or 1246 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, see the bullets fly live. They need that. 1247 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: And some guys you put them in there too soon 1248 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 1: and erect them. I mean, I remember David Carr for 1249 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the Texas just got beat up. He wasn't ready to play. 1250 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: And so we don't know that about Mac Jones yet. 1251 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,879 Speaker 1: And you know the other thing, you have to consider 1252 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: all the young quarterbacks that are thriving and playing as jumpsters. 1253 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,839 Speaker 1: They're all mobile, they're all runners, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield 1254 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 1: and Mark Jackson's, Patrick Mahomes, they're all tremendous athletes who 1255 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: can they can make, you know, improvisational plays when things 1256 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: break down. That is not Mac Jones's game. And so 1257 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's a big jump from college of the 1258 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,839 Speaker 1: pros as far as reading defenses and operating from the pocket, 1259 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 1: and when you don't have that ability to make those 1260 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,639 Speaker 1: those plays when you're improvising, I think that does make 1261 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: its offer. So I do think that Belichick would prefer 1262 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: that Cam Newton be the quarterback. But if he's clearly 1263 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: holding the team back, you're right, I mean, Bill will 1264 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: make the switch if the if cam is really just 1265 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 1: holding the Patriots back. But I think the whole that 1266 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 1: he wonts. We've seen Tom Brady playing really well into 1267 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: his forties, but Bill Belichick in a year or two 1268 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: is going to turn seventy. How long do you think 1269 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,799 Speaker 1: he goes and what happens after that? As a good question, 1270 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 1: he used to talk about your guy, Marv Levy. He 1271 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 1: said he didn't want to be coaching into his seventies 1272 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and this, and that it's a different NFL now than 1273 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: when Marv Levy left, you know in the nineties. You know, 1274 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Belichick's not sleeping on his couch. You know, it's not 1275 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 1: the grinds that it used to be. He still gets 1276 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: plenty of time and Nan Tuckett, and he's making a 1277 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: ton of money. No matter how much money anyone's made it, 1278 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to walk away from from that kind of money. 1279 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: And he's got his program, you know, set up the 1280 01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 1: way he wants it. For the most part, He's got 1281 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 1: everything he's wanted here with the Patriots. And then I 1282 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: think a he would love to win a Super Bowl 1283 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,759 Speaker 1: without Tom Brady. I definitely think that that is something 1284 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 1: he'd like to accomplish, and I think he's chasing Don 1285 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 1: Shula as well. I think he's Um, he's thirty six 1286 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: total wins away from Shula including playoffs, so I mean 1287 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,600 Speaker 1: that could be done in three seasons. When when you 1288 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: include the playoffs and then regular season, he's probably four 1289 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: or five years away. So I don't see him slowing down. 1290 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: I really don't, um, just because, like I said, it's 1291 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,600 Speaker 1: not the grind that it once was, and he's so 1292 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: close to some of these records, and um, you know, 1293 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 1: why why walk away when he's got a good thing 1294 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 1: going on right now, Like he's he got the rest 1295 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 1: of your old age to be retired. Once you once 1296 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 1: you leave the NFL, you're probably done. So I think 1297 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: he's got several more years and I don't think he's 1298 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna leave until he you know, chases Don Shula and 1299 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and gets all the coaching records. That's one for me, Ben, 1300 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 1: And again thanks for the time. I know you did 1301 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 1: a write up recently for The Globe on best NFL destinations. 1302 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: Despite being a division rival, you had Buffalo pretty high. 1303 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Maybe just kind of shed some light on that for 1304 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,680 Speaker 1: our listeners and maybe some of the criteria that you 1305 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: put into the rankings. You know, I was I was 1306 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 1: waiting for you to bring that up because I got 1307 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 1: so much grief from the people of Atlanta and Cincinnati 1308 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: and the cities I ranked at the bottom. So I'd 1309 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: like some you know, free chicken wings from from you guys. 1310 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,600 Speaker 1: You know, I have Buffalo number five. Overall. I just 1311 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:33,680 Speaker 1: think it's tremendous road trip. And I'm sure my rankings 1312 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: are skewed by my experiences and the fact that I 1313 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: do go to Buffalo every year, and I've been there 1314 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: a lot more than I've been to say Cleveland or 1315 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: other cities, what have you. But I just love the 1316 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: Buffalo trip. It's a great weekend. And if I were 1317 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: with a group of friends and we're looking at the 1318 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: schedule and want to make a football weekend, I think 1319 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: Buffalo is, like I've ranked a fifth. So I think 1320 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: it's just tremendous. You go, you know, you find a 1321 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: good wing place or I always go to die into 1322 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: a barbecue. I love going there, always get good food, 1323 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 1: good beers. And then the game day seen at Orchard Park. 1324 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll have to tell you guys about that. 1325 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 1: The tailgating is wild. The fans are passionate. I love 1326 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: the old stadium. There's not a bad seat in the house. 1327 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 1: So and you never, as we've learned with the Patriots 1328 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: build games the last few years, you never quite know 1329 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: what someone's gonna throw onto the field or what's gonna happen. 1330 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: So I just love the Buffalo I love the Buffalo 1331 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,679 Speaker 1: football experience. And I would recommend it highly to anyone 1332 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 1: who's looking to take like a trip with their friends 1333 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: or their family. Maybe not family, but definitely with their friends. 1334 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I just think Buffalo is a great football weekend. Ben, 1335 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,200 Speaker 1: thanks so much for spending some time with us. We 1336 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We'll talk to you down the road, 1337 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: all right, guys, have a good one. Yeah. That's Ben 1338 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: voland NFL senior beat writer for the Boston Globe covers 1339 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots, covers the league at large as well. They 1340 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,960 Speaker 1: have a nice ranking. How about that? A little a 1341 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 1: little friendly fire from a division rival news outlet. It 1342 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 1: takes that whenever you can get it right, it's pretty. 1343 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty. It's pretty credible too, because, like you say, 1344 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the team where he probably goes to 1345 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 1: Miami as often as he goes to Buffalo. You know, 1346 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: he goes to New Jersey for that Jersey as well. So, um, 1347 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: and how do you know? What are you talking about? 1348 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,920 Speaker 1: You and I know as well as anybody you spend 1349 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: enough time here, there's a lot of fun stuff going on, 1350 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: particularly on the food scene. Uh and on a Bills 1351 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 1: game day scene. It's it's pretty hard to beat. So 1352 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 1: I'll take a top five, especially absolutely, especially knowing what's 1353 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,160 Speaker 1: on the think about what's on his schedule this year. 1354 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I think I think the Patriots are at New Orleans 1355 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 1: as well, much like the Bills are, right and I 1356 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 1: think they I think they are. Also they go to Atlanta. 1357 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 1: The Bills host Atlanta this year, so you have big 1358 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 1: time cities like New Orleans and Atlanta. He's got the 1359 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 1: Bills ranked higher. I mean, hey, good on him for 1360 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: going out on a limb with that, because most people wouldn't. 1361 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I can give Ben get some points in my eyes 1362 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,880 Speaker 1: with that. I get some points for that one. Yeah. 1363 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: Well the Patriot, Yeah, I mean the Patriots they go 1364 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: they've got the Saints at home. Oh okay, they do, yeah, 1365 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: and they've got they go to Houston, they go to 1366 01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 1: the LA Chargers, Carolina, Atlanta Buffalo of course, Indianapolis and Miami. 1367 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 1: So they've got Jacksonville at home, They've got Tennessee at home, 1368 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 1: Cleveland at home, the Jets Dallas at home, and they 1369 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: got some of their tame Yeah, yeah, there as the 1370 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,599 Speaker 1: Bills have some on the road, like New Orleans, like Tampa, 1371 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 1: like Tennessee. They get those three teams at home, so 1372 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: that'll be advantage for them. And well, if home field 1373 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: can be an advantage, we'll have to see where they 1374 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: are at that point in time. And I'm still not 1375 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,800 Speaker 1: convinced that quarterback is gonna get it done if it's 1376 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Newton in the lineup. But I guess I should be 1377 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 1: happy if Newton's in the lineup, because I just don't 1378 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 1: have any faith that he's gonna pull games out for them, 1379 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,640 Speaker 1: especially against the caliber of opponents like that that we 1380 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,640 Speaker 1: just talked. Yeah, I'll tell you it's easy for us 1381 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: to sit here and make decisions for Bill Belichick, right, 1382 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who's gonna play, right, But as long as 1383 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: we are as long as we are, I'll just say that. 1384 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: And it's so easy to sit here and say Cam 1385 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: Newton is gonna play for the first three games against 1386 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Jets, and the Saints and the Bucks, and 1387 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 1: when they get past the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Tom 1388 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Brady comes back to Foxborough and plays, and you put 1389 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: Cam Newton out there. After that, they put Mac Jones 1390 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 1: in on the field against the Houston Texans, which you 1391 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to beat him. Then you 1392 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 1: come back home and his first home game would be 1393 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 1: against as a starter, would be against the Dallas Cowboys, 1394 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 1: and then the Jets after that. So he's got a 1395 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: chance to go two and one his first three starts, 1396 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: even if he drops one of the Cowboys going beating 1397 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Houston Texans and the New York Jets right out of 1398 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,560 Speaker 1: the gate. That to me, let's from thousand miles away prognostication, 1399 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:13,719 Speaker 1: seems too easy not to have that happen. Cam Newton 1400 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: plays the first four games. As soon as they Tampa 1401 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: Bay comes in and caves their heads in, Cam gets 1402 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 1: benched and it's Mac Jones the rest of the way. Yeah, 1403 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: because the game's what thirty five to ten? Right the 1404 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game, I'll bet no, I'll bet yeah. If listen, 1405 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady could go in there and hang a 1406 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,719 Speaker 1: fifty burger on, oh, I might actually root for Tom 1407 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Brady for one time in my life in that game. 1408 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,679 Speaker 1: That might be the only time I have a root 1409 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 1: for Tom Brady and my existence on this planet. I'm 1410 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,559 Speaker 1: telling you that would be the one though, yea, because 1411 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,600 Speaker 1: I dislike Belichick that much more, right an there you go, 1412 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 1: So that just seems too simple for me. Give them 1413 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 1: the give cam the first month of the season. He 1414 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 1: comes out and is bounced passing it. You know, do it? 1415 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Break time for us here when Steve and I return 1416 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: back to the tweet sheet as we get your answers 1417 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,240 Speaker 1: as to the one question you hope is answered by 1418 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: the end of Bills training camp, We're back with that 1419 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 1: and more next on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid 1420 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 1: to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Second half of the 1421 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,040 Speaker 1: show is under away and we're going back to the 1422 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. What's the one question you hope the Bills 1423 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: have clearly answered by the end of training camp? Veteran 1424 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: report day today. First practice is tomorrow. Steve and I 1425 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: will be there and we talking about it on the 1426 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 1: show tomorrow. But Seth on the tweet sheet says wide 1427 01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,719 Speaker 1: receivers six slash seven. Question Mark McKenzie should be a lock. 1428 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 1: I think Stevenson is going to be too talented to 1429 01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: cut or leave on the practice squad. Hodgens doesn't really 1430 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 1: seem to fit the offense as well, but his size 1431 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 1: as a factor, So I think the competition is between 1432 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 1: those two. If it's only six on the final roster, 1433 01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree a little bit with Seth's belief that 1434 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Hodgens doesn't seem to fit the offense. The reason he 1435 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: fits this offense is because he is an early separator. 1436 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 1: That is exactly what Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, and Stefan 1437 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 1: Digs do. They might do it in different ways, but 1438 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 1: Hodgens does that as well. So I think he is 1439 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,160 Speaker 1: firmly in the competition for one of the last receivers spots. 1440 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,879 Speaker 1: But maybe we should go where Seth began, Steve six 1441 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 1: or seven receivers on this roster. Yeah, I think six 1442 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,759 Speaker 1: is a given, He's right. Seven depends on a special 1443 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: team's contributor. And I'll say this, McKenzie, it's either or. 1444 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 1: I think in my mind still McKenzie or Stevenson. It 1445 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,679 Speaker 1: won't be both. Yeah, I think those are the two 1446 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 1: guys that run the greatest risk of being the odd 1447 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 1: man out. Now, what you do have the advantage of 1448 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: as they're continuing the COVID roster rules again this year, 1449 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:16,000 Speaker 1: so it's an expanded practice squad of sixteen players, and 1450 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 1: each week you have the license to protect four of 1451 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 1: the players on your practice squad could be the same 1452 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,800 Speaker 1: four guys all year long if you want. So that 1453 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: affords the Bills the option of keeping a player like 1454 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: McKenzie who obviously has more experience and does not have 1455 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 1: practice squad time available to him. Although I'm gonna have 1456 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: to double check because those rules might be out the 1457 01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: door too with the expanded roster rules. And Stevenson is 1458 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 1: a guy you could put on your practice squad and 1459 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,599 Speaker 1: then just protect him every week, right, and if he's 1460 01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 1: that good, that's what you can do. Neither one of 1461 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:04,080 Speaker 1: those guys, McKenzie or Stevenson is expensive, so you don't 1462 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 1: really care if you keep both of them on the 1463 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 1: active you know what I mean. It's not like you're 1464 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,600 Speaker 1: gonna cut McKenzie if they're the same player. They're you know, 1465 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 1: they're they're virtually Mackenzie's not killing us with salary or 1466 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: anything like that, sou But they do have to me, 1467 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 1: they do have a little bit of redundancy in their 1468 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: skill set. You know, why have both of them when 1469 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 1: you've got one. Yeah, So I'm just double checking the 1470 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 1: expanded roster rules. So I am we are right about 1471 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: the sixteen player thing. I just wanted to check in 1472 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: terms of the accrued seasons for a player, how many 1473 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,479 Speaker 1: of those players are allowed on your practice squad. So 1474 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,880 Speaker 1: you can have up to six players who have more 1475 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,480 Speaker 1: than two accrued seasons in the league. So if Stevenson 1476 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 1: beats out Isaiah McKenzie and you want them on the 1477 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,879 Speaker 1: active roster, you could put McKenzie on the practice squad 1478 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 1: and keep them there. Yeah, that is an option. It's 1479 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: because in past years, you know, there's all you can 1480 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 1: only have three years on a practice squad and then 1481 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 1: you're out of practice squad eligibility and it's either make 1482 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: a roster or you're out of the league. And that 1483 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 1: is out the door. Now at these expanded roster rules, 1484 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,320 Speaker 1: now Hodgens can you can do the same thing with 1485 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: Hodgens putting out a squad protect him and all that. 1486 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If if you both McKenzie and 1487 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 1: and Stevenson of one or the other, and you're gonna 1488 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: keep seven Hodgens is up. It's gonna come down to this. 1489 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: You can't have your sixth and seventh wide receivers or 1490 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: your no, your fifth, sixth and seventh wide receivers not 1491 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,200 Speaker 1: contributing something. It comes down to special team. So if 1492 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,280 Speaker 1: if if Mackenzie is your is on the active roster, 1493 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,719 Speaker 1: he's returning kicks, he becomes number five on the receivers chart. 1494 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 1: Now he Now, if there's an injury or something, it 1495 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: may be the six or seventh guy like Hodgens to 1496 01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 1: go in. But if Hodgens is gonna make the team, 1497 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to cover kicks. And I don't know 1498 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,120 Speaker 1: if that's in his skill set that I don't know either. 1499 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I do not know that guy. Right. Well, all you 1500 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 1: really need, yeah, well he's got enough speed to believe me, 1501 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 1: he's got enough speed to cover kicks. Um, the faster 1502 01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,200 Speaker 1: the better, Yes, But what it counts mostly is the 1503 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: desire to want to do it and do it well. 1504 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 1: The big question is can he be physical at the 1505 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: other end? Can he be disciplined at the other end 1506 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: in his lanes and all that stuff? Will he will? 1507 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 1: He will? He put the focus in that necessary to 1508 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: be on the team that way. But that's what's going 1509 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 1: to happen. You got the front front four with Digs, Beasley, 1510 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Davis and Samuel's and behind them, who's it gonna be Sanders, Sanders, 1511 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 1: who's it gonna be? The next guy's gotta be the 1512 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,720 Speaker 1: return guy like it was last year with Andre Roberts. Yeah, 1513 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,280 Speaker 1: and it'll be McKenzie or Stevenson in my mind. Yeah, 1514 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 1: the next guy is who and it's and you've got Kumerow, 1515 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Duke Williams, Isaiah Hodgens, Marquez, Stevenson. You've got a lot 1516 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 1: of guys that Brandon Powell. Yeah, You've got some guys 1517 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,439 Speaker 1: that can really that can play. That's gonna be really 1518 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,600 Speaker 1: competitive out there. And maybe they you know, maybe the 1519 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: practice squad is still available for a lot of these guys. 1520 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,559 Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what, if you're keeping six up 1521 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: and you get a rash of injuries, like you lose 1522 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: two or you lose two guys plus you got on 1523 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 1: third one that's hobbled, ye, I think they stop playing offense. Yeah. 1524 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,639 Speaker 1: I think because of the expanded roster rules existing again 1525 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,720 Speaker 1: this year, I think it is a hard six on 1526 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 1: the active roster. And then they just put two or 1527 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 1: three on the practice squad protect the guys who they 1528 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 1: fear might be poached, and then if you have an 1529 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 1: injury or two, you just pull them up. And that 1530 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,520 Speaker 1: affords the Bills, who have a very deep roster, uncommon 1531 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 1: flexibility that most contending teams of the past did not have. 1532 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 1: Think about they're just disposal. It's going to be enormously valued. 1533 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: How hamstrung will the entire team be if they get 1534 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,680 Speaker 1: a rash of injuries through their wide receiver room. What 1535 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 1: if four guys get COVID? Yeah, they're done. Do you 1536 01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win a game with their running game? 1537 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, think about it. They've got to have guys 1538 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: in the pipeline to replace every single guy in their 1539 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:29,559 Speaker 1: wide receiver room at least once fully, because that's the offense. 1540 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to have guys out there that 1541 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 1: can run and catch. They can't pull guys off the 1542 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 1: streets because if they're doing that, that's it. They're done. 1543 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: They can't win game. Well, yeah, and so I think 1544 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,679 Speaker 1: it's six on the active roster because they had six 1545 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,760 Speaker 1: up every single week last year, six active every single week. 1546 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: It's not like they had six receivers on the roster, 1547 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,559 Speaker 1: and one was inactive every week. Everybody was up every 1548 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,679 Speaker 1: single week. And so I think they keep six again, 1549 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,599 Speaker 1: and I think they have it at least Williams. They 1550 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: have at least three receivers on the practice squad, right, 1551 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:13,120 Speaker 1: Kumero spoke Williams and who else last year? Oh I'm not, 1552 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm they. I'm not gonna remember from last 1553 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember, but Duke Williams and Kumro were here 1554 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,920 Speaker 1: all year, and Duke Kumro was up actually for a 1555 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,600 Speaker 1: while on the second half of the season. He was 1556 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,439 Speaker 1: the six guy. When and if anybody suffers an injury 1557 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna last two games, for sure, they're putting them 1558 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 1: on IR. Because why are you gonna gobble up a 1559 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,599 Speaker 1: roster spot when you can put a guy on IR 1560 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 1: for three weeks, get him back and plug somebody else in, 1561 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,800 Speaker 1: especially if you have someone like Isaiah Hodgens on your 1562 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 1: practice squad. I mean, that's a capable guy. So you 1563 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 1: have somebody that's gonna be out for two games for sure, 1564 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: just put him on the IR. No One, it's only 1565 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 1: three games, matt or a minimum and take it from there. Right, 1566 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: So the flexibility with the roster rules again this year 1567 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 1: is going to be of enormous value to a deep 1568 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: rostered team like the Bills. I don't think there's any 1569 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,680 Speaker 1: question about it. All right, break time for us when 1570 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: we come back. More your thoughts on the tweet sheet 1571 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,720 Speaker 1: as we are asking you, what is one question you 1572 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 1: have for your twenty twenty one Bills that you hope 1573 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: is answered by the close of training camp which starts 1574 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 1: officially tomorrow. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you more to 1575 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,880 Speaker 1: come here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health. 1576 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. See here he goes. Welcome back 1577 01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,200 Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and I 1578 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: have appreciated Steve's open mindedness to watching some soccer, and 1579 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,839 Speaker 1: so I am trying to return the favor with respect 1580 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 1: to Olympic rugby action. There's a heated match that's happening 1581 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: today between the US and Great Britain, and the US 1582 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 1: is off to a flying start here. So Steve is 1583 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of schooling me up on rugby because Steve at 1584 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 1: the time was foolishly compromising his NFL football career by 1585 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 1: playing rugby to stay in shape, which would be blasphemy nowadays. Um, 1586 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 1: but steve back for the two and twenty sixth player. Overall, 1587 01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 1: it's probably not that big a role of advice, you know, 1588 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: but it's rugby seven. Rugby seven's in the Olympics. It's 1589 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:25,799 Speaker 1: tremendous and uh, it's uh, it's a great sport, great sport, 1590 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: a lot of instinct, a lot of speed and a 1591 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: physicality too. That's that's different. And uh yeah, it's just great. Yeah. 1592 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: So the US is lumping up great Britain right now, 1593 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,280 Speaker 1: twenty one nothing, it's forty five seconds left in the 1594 01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 1: first It's great. It's great sport. I loved it when 1595 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 1: I played it in college. Um, it's a lot of fun, yeah, 1596 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Uh what is the rate of 1597 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 1: Kylie flower ear in rugby as opposed to wrestling, Because 1598 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: you're you're getting those grappled groups, right, and you're rubbing 1599 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: heads together and stuff. Some guys headgear, some guys don't right. 1600 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think, I don't know. I don't know. 1601 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,679 Speaker 1: But man o, man, you see a lot of guys 1602 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,759 Speaker 1: with cauliflower here, A lot of busted heads in this sport. 1603 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 1: To a lot of busted heads, guys with black eyes 1604 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 1: head brack Man. I yeah, it's it is rough and 1605 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: tumble game, but it's a lot of fun and yeah, yeah, 1606 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: so you go us now, great, Britain's getting back into 1607 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 1: it now, they got one they've got to try now. 1608 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, what's uh, what's the one question you hope 1609 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 1: the Bills have clearly answered by the end of training camp, 1610 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 1: which opens tomorrow. We're taking some of your comments on 1611 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Feel free to chime in at one 1612 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: Bills Live. We'll get to yours, certainly in the third 1613 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,719 Speaker 1: hour of the show, but we're gonna address a couple 1614 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 1: more right here. Rachel says, I want to see our 1615 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 1: CB two question answered. We've had two straight good years 1616 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 1: with Levi at the position, but if Dane Jackson can 1617 01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,519 Speaker 1: beat him out, that'll mean he had a great camp 1618 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 1: and I'll be so excited to see him at a 1619 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 1: full time starting role. And I think I would be 1620 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: equally excited. Of course, Steve has made a lot of 1621 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 1: my my man crush on Dane Jackson, but I think 1622 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I agree with Rachel that would mean he would have 1623 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,559 Speaker 1: an outstanding camp because the three previous contenders could not 1624 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: unseat Levi Wallace for that job. Now they couldn't. And 1625 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 1: it's it is. It has been a question mark since 1626 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,960 Speaker 1: you gotta and Levi Wallace. Let's say he's an undrafted 1627 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 1: rookie free agent. Now I get it. I mean the 1628 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: pedigree is not there. But he was a walk on 1629 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 1: at Alabama, earned a starting job on a national championship team. 1630 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 1: He came to Buffalo at the same time the same 1631 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 1: year that Brian day Ball did. On day Ball knew 1632 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,639 Speaker 1: the guy and played offense again, you know, called offensive 1633 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,840 Speaker 1: plays against him in practice kind of thing. So they 1634 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,599 Speaker 1: knew what they were getting, the kind of person they 1635 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,719 Speaker 1: were getting. And you know, Levi has grabbed that position 1636 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: and not let it go. Um. I've said a ton 1637 01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: you you don't have to like Levi Wallace, but good 1638 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 1: luck finding somebody who plays the position better than he does. 1639 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 1: The league. The team has been doing it, They've been 1640 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:19,240 Speaker 1: trying to find people everywhere, and they can't get it done. 1641 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,479 Speaker 1: They can't get it done. So you know, if they 1642 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,519 Speaker 1: do it this year, yeah, it may be different. Maybe 1643 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 1: that Dane Jackson has emerged. He's certainly I'm with you. 1644 01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Dane Jackson flashed last year and a couple of different instances. 1645 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 1: When he got on the field. You you he showed up, 1646 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 1: and that's hard to do as a rookie just coming 1647 01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,599 Speaker 1: on starting a spot start or whatever however you want 1648 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,840 Speaker 1: to call it. But he had trouble staying on the 1649 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,000 Speaker 1: field so by because of injuries and all of that. 1650 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, if Dan Jackson comes in and can and 1651 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 1: do it, I'm all for it. I'm he's gonna have 1652 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,759 Speaker 1: to steve. He's gonna have to do more than flash though. 1653 01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,439 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to consistently show I'm not just going 1654 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 1: to be a steady eddie player like Levi Wallace is. 1655 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:09,000 Speaker 1: I Am going to be a game changing player. Well yeah, 1656 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 1: but I'll say this every player who's a starter, you 1657 01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: gotta be ready to go out there and play every play. 1658 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 1: And you're right. You can't roller coaster around. You can't 1659 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,599 Speaker 1: disappear for three quarters and then show up and won't 1660 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,120 Speaker 1: make one play and think you're gonna be the guy. 1661 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: You need that, and that's why Levi Wallace is there. 1662 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 1: Let's face that guy plays every play steady. He's in 1663 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,920 Speaker 1: the right spot. If he gets beat physically, that's one thing, 1664 01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:37,680 Speaker 1: But if he if he gets beat physically. You can 1665 01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of live with that, because there's always a matchup 1666 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 1: where your opponent's going to have a guy who's superior 1667 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,960 Speaker 1: to one of your guys, whether it's Levi Wallace or anybody, right, 1668 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: So when he does do that, it's usually not for 1669 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,000 Speaker 1: a gigantic play. He doesn't give up the gigantic play 1670 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,800 Speaker 1: when he's beat physically. That's right, you have to And 1671 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,200 Speaker 1: not only they have to be physically better to beat him, 1672 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,400 Speaker 1: they also have to use perfect technique as well, because 1673 01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:02,599 Speaker 1: he's using perfect technique. So you know, coaches are very 1674 01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,800 Speaker 1: hesitant to make a switch at a position for a guy, 1675 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 1: even if he has a better upside. But a guy 1676 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 1: who they fear at some points gonna go off the 1677 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: air and give up the big play, and Levi Wallace 1678 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 1: just never does that. She never does that. Yeah, I 1679 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 1: gotta say, I'm gonna be hard pressed to find a 1680 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:31,599 Speaker 1: position battle that's going to be more closely scrutinized than 1681 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: that one. May be pretty tough, I mean, left guard 1682 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 1: maybe right, Yeah, I don't. I don't know that there 1683 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 1: are too many other starting positions that are going to 1684 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 1: be as closely scrutinized as that one. The offense doesn't 1685 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,639 Speaker 1: have any and maybe the offensive line. There's a ton 1686 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 1: of stuff going on there. But and I've said this 1687 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,960 Speaker 1: too on the show, I don't think the offensive line 1688 01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,919 Speaker 1: set in stone anyboy with any way shape or four. Yeah, 1689 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a ton of competition going on up there. 1690 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 1: I think they told those guys they signed back, like 1691 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Forrest lamp I, Butcker, Ryan Bates, all those guys down 1692 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:13,599 Speaker 1: the roster no have been told listen, you're gonna get 1693 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 1: a chance to compete. And the guys they drafted, you know, 1694 01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna get an opportunity. So I think there's gonna 1695 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 1: be a lot of competition up on the offensive line. 1696 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people have are okay 1697 01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,120 Speaker 1: with the level they got last year. So if they 1698 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 1: change it out, that means it's generally gonna be better. 1699 01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 1: So I think people are That's where I'm at in 1700 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 1: my mindset. Got the offensive line at cornerback two at 1701 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:37,360 Speaker 1: CB two. If they get two corners off, Dan Jackson 1702 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,920 Speaker 1: comes out and he plays lights out. All of a sudden, 1703 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 1: this defense, because of the position, in the nature of it, 1704 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 1: the defense takes a quantum leap. The pass rush is better. 1705 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: You know whether they're better or not. They look better 1706 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,120 Speaker 1: because their guys are covered up on the outside, the 1707 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,360 Speaker 1: safeties are free or to roam around and read the 1708 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,920 Speaker 1: quarterback there. You know, turnovers will happen more So that's 1709 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,479 Speaker 1: a difference maker the CB two spot because they're gonna 1710 01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:08,120 Speaker 1: get thrown at. So yeah, I like that. We're all 1711 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,679 Speaker 1: going to be watching everything this team does. But that 1712 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,479 Speaker 1: has been a conversation that's been ongoing and now going 1713 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,479 Speaker 1: into the fourth year, ever since Levi Wallace walked walked 1714 01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,320 Speaker 1: on the campus. You know, break time for us here, 1715 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,760 Speaker 1: but our number three is coming your way. Steve astutely 1716 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line and how it is far from 1717 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,200 Speaker 1: setting stone despite what people think. We will address that 1718 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,960 Speaker 1: in the third hour here as our tweet sheet is 1719 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: pointing us in that direction. We'll cover that next here 1720 01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo 1721 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:49,639 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. At a Steve tester who has been all 1722 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique, he was kind of 1723 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:58,559 Speaker 1: a dual role player. Steve a blimp. We're not even 1724 01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:06,640 Speaker 1: in the strated here of normalcy and our number three 1725 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: here on Veteran Report Day for Bills training camp, we 1726 01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,120 Speaker 1: will be covering day one of practice wall to wall 1727 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,360 Speaker 1: both on Buffalo bills dot Com and on our show 1728 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 1: tomorrow noon to three, as we will be fresh off 1729 01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:23,719 Speaker 1: the practice field when we hit the air tomorrow. Steve 1730 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. For now, though, we are going 1731 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,280 Speaker 1: back to the tweet sheet to begin our number three 1732 01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,120 Speaker 1: as we have been checking in with you to see 1733 01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:34,600 Speaker 1: what is the one question you hope the Bills have 1734 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 1: clearly answered by the close of training camp by the 1735 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,080 Speaker 1: time they are a week out from the start of 1736 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,519 Speaker 1: the regular season. What is the answer you are hoping 1737 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,479 Speaker 1: they have provided you by the close of camp? And 1738 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Tiffany has an interesting one who the top five starting 1739 01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are going to be, Because as Steve pointed 1740 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: out late in the last hour, he doesn't believe it's 1741 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: a lock at the same five that started last year 1742 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,320 Speaker 1: we'll start this year, and I tend to agree with him. 1743 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,439 Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be wholesale changes, but 1744 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:13,920 Speaker 1: it looks as though the most hotly contested position would 1745 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 1: be left guard, just by virtue of the fact that 1746 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,879 Speaker 1: Cody Ford's trying to come back from an injury, and 1747 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 1: not only that, a number of players filled in at 1748 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,800 Speaker 1: that spot last season. So you've got guys that have 1749 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 1: started in that position from last year that are going 1750 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,400 Speaker 1: to be vying to do so again this year. Yeah, 1751 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't and I don't think you know, another one. 1752 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 1: And I'm worried about Mitch Morris being able to come 1753 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: back and jump back in. He's you know, he's had 1754 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,280 Speaker 1: a concussion every year he's been with the club, and 1755 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 1: I believe he has five documented concussions in his career, 1756 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,679 Speaker 1: and that, you know, and that is a concern because 1757 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, with one more concussion, you know, he may decide, 1758 01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's not worth it for my long term help. 1759 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,160 Speaker 1: And so do you do you say, listen instead of 1760 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,360 Speaker 1: risking that or waiting for that. And if if we've 1761 01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,720 Speaker 1: got a guy who's close to that, if John Feliciano 1762 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,519 Speaker 1: thinks he can play center, you think he can. You've 1763 01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: got these draft picks, and you've got some guys in 1764 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:20,080 Speaker 1: there who can fill in. You know, you maybe they 1765 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,320 Speaker 1: make that move Cody Ford, maybe he doesn't come back 1766 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,840 Speaker 1: and tip top shape and just can't perform as well 1767 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 1: as some of the other guys they kept brought in. 1768 01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 1: There's just you know, there's all kinds of combinations that happen, 1769 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and maybe the offensive line just performs better with Morris 1770 01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 1: and two different guards than they've seen in there, either 1771 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, Forrest Lamp or you know, what have you, 1772 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 1: whoever else. So they will try all those combinations and 1773 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 1: they will see how it goes. But I don't think 1774 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 1: anything is set in stone up front, except perhaps with 1775 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 1: the exception of Dion Dawkins. Yeah, I uh wow, So 1776 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 1: you think Dawkins is the only lock um Daryl Daryl 1777 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 1: Williams guard. Yeah, so, I mean Darryl Williams played most 1778 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,920 Speaker 1: of his career at guard. He's just signed a deal 1779 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 1: to play right tackle. He hits the same money, What 1780 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,040 Speaker 1: does he care put him at one of the guard 1781 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,120 Speaker 1: spots if indeed he will or can, and Spencer Brown 1782 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,760 Speaker 1: becomes your right tackle who plays even better than Daryl 1783 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: Williams did last year, and now your offensive line's better 1784 01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 1: at four spots. Yeah, that's saying something I think I 1785 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,519 Speaker 1: think if Yeah, that's why I was gonna say. I 1786 01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 1: think Daryl Williams is a lock to be one of 1787 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,519 Speaker 1: the starting five. The question might be where is he um? 1788 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,920 Speaker 1: And then with respect to Spencer Brown, as you outline 1789 01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:43,120 Speaker 1: Steve if Spencer Brown, when's the starting right tackle job. 1790 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 1: You've got two of the most athletic tackles you've had 1791 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:50,240 Speaker 1: on this roster in a long long time. Oh yeah, 1792 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,000 Speaker 1: no question. And think about it. I mean, if Darryll 1793 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 1: Williams goes down inside, that means Feliciana can play either 1794 01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,200 Speaker 1: left guard or yeah, you can play in the left 1795 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,320 Speaker 1: guard or center um like he did last year in 1796 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 1: Mitch Morrise's absence. And then you've got just one spot 1797 01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 1: for like eight guys to you know, compete with. So 1798 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm but Spencer Brown is an athlete before he's just 1799 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,200 Speaker 1: a big body. I mean he's a former tight end 1800 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,559 Speaker 1: basketball player. He's got all that. He's got great footwork, 1801 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,720 Speaker 1: he's got all that. He put him in there, and 1802 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:20,680 Speaker 1: he got the other draft picks to look at with 1803 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:26,960 Speaker 1: Tommy Boyle and Jackie Person Jack Anderson who is a quintessential, 1804 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:30,519 Speaker 1: highly decorated into your offensive lineman. All of a sudden, 1805 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:35,280 Speaker 1: you got better on the offensive line and younger. It's 1806 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,559 Speaker 1: a pretty good place to be. And I know Cody 1807 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,719 Speaker 1: Ford has worked his butt off to get that knee 1808 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,160 Speaker 1: right for this season. Wasn't all the way back as 1809 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,439 Speaker 1: if Mini camp but has really put his nose to 1810 01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 1: the grindstone to get back to form. And he and 1811 01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,400 Speaker 1: Zach Moss are two guys, two guys that had important 1812 01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,679 Speaker 1: roles on this team last year who I am very 1813 01:39:56,720 --> 01:40:01,080 Speaker 1: interested to see once they hit the field, you know, tomorrow, 1814 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:05,839 Speaker 1: Are they fully medically cleared to do anything and everything 1815 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,519 Speaker 1: out there? Number one? And then if they are, how 1816 01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 1: long is it going to take them to knock the 1817 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:15,320 Speaker 1: rust off so they can really compete for the roles 1818 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: that they held down last year? They learned very quickly. 1819 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,240 Speaker 1: The league didn't wait on you. I mean they went 1820 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 1: out and signed Matt Breeda. They got Antonio Williams chomping 1821 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 1: at the bit and wanting would love to get on 1822 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,680 Speaker 1: the field and play more than he did in Week 1823 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,800 Speaker 1: seventeen of a year ago. Rated drafted three linemen and 1824 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,840 Speaker 1: signed three free agents. Who's you know, one of which 1825 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,160 Speaker 1: started sixteen games a year ago. Yeah, the pressures on 1826 01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,240 Speaker 1: big time. The pressure is on big time. So don't 1827 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,280 Speaker 1: think they don't feel it. What do you think, Steve, 1828 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: Because I think we were talking earlier about how just 1829 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 1: by the nature of the offense that they play that 1830 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,200 Speaker 1: even if they only keep six receivers on the active roster, 1831 01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 1: they've probably got three on the practice squad. In terms 1832 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:05,879 Speaker 1: of the receiver position, I think the offensive line. However, 1833 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:13,000 Speaker 1: Steve could be a position where Brandon Bean season opportunity 1834 01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:16,639 Speaker 1: maybe to move alignment or two that would probably make 1835 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,479 Speaker 1: ten other rosters in the league but can't hear because 1836 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,080 Speaker 1: it's so dang deep, and maybe acquire a different kind 1837 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,040 Speaker 1: of asset that the team might need. What do you 1838 01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 1: think of that prospect come the end of preseason training, 1839 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,720 Speaker 1: because as we know Steve, with no fourth preseason game, 1840 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,879 Speaker 1: there's a longer window than usual before the first regular 1841 01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,720 Speaker 1: season game. It might afford some of the gms in 1842 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,599 Speaker 1: the league to do a little wheeling and dealing. They 1843 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,439 Speaker 1: have done this before, but I think about this. They've 1844 01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 1: done it before Cordy Glenn they traded right, and that 1845 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,680 Speaker 1: was pre draft. But yeah, but and think about this. 1846 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:58,160 Speaker 1: They did it with Wyatt Teller, and Wyatt Teller turns 1847 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 1: into an all Pro guard. Yeah, Um, certainly, I mean 1848 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,120 Speaker 1: they you know, they liked what they got in return 1849 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,479 Speaker 1: and all of that, but you know, you gotta be 1850 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, you're right. I think they could 1851 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,040 Speaker 1: do that, particularly if they know what they're looking at 1852 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 1: and they're confident they can go into the lead into 1853 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,800 Speaker 1: the year with eight really good offensive linemen that they 1854 01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,600 Speaker 1: can that can start at all five spots and fill it, 1855 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, shuffle around and all of that. So they 1856 01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:27,680 Speaker 1: go in with eight guys that can play, they can 1857 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: go two or three deep at all spots. Yeah, if 1858 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,840 Speaker 1: they feel like they've got more guys than that, they 1859 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:37,760 Speaker 1: will try and trade them away and teams will be 1860 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,839 Speaker 1: looking as as So, Yeah, twelve of the sixteen linemen 1861 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:46,600 Speaker 1: on this roster steve have played regular season games in 1862 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:52,080 Speaker 1: the NFL and play very well. You're keeping only nine 1863 01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe ten on the active roster, and then you know 1864 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,719 Speaker 1: another three presumably on the practice squad. And that's probably 1865 01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 1: your younger guys if they're not yet ready to make 1866 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: the rosters. So there could be some people here that 1867 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:11,639 Speaker 1: could be coveted by other teams. Yeah, and also even 1868 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,960 Speaker 1: if they're off the radar. Now, what happens if a 1869 01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,200 Speaker 1: team like Dallas or Washington or you know whatever comes 1870 01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 1: down with a rash of injuries during training camp. They've 1871 01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 1: lost guys for like three months. You know, all of 1872 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 1: the sudden, teams that weren't on the market could be 1873 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:32,000 Speaker 1: and so that's all, and so the things, you know, 1874 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,600 Speaker 1: the circumstances could change as training camp wears along. But 1875 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,759 Speaker 1: you're right if some of the Bills guys the Bills signed, 1876 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got like Forest Lamp. We we've talked 1877 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,479 Speaker 1: a lot about how he started sixteen games for the 1878 01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,559 Speaker 1: for the LA Chargers. Last year. The LA Chargers offensive 1879 01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 1: line was panned by a lot of people. It was 1880 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,400 Speaker 1: not very good. So a guy like Forest Lamp, while 1881 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,639 Speaker 1: he's got experience, was part of an offensive line that struggled. Now, 1882 01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:05,080 Speaker 1: if you watch film, maybe it's not for Slamp's problem, 1883 01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,639 Speaker 1: but certainly it's you know, there's gonna be teams out 1884 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,240 Speaker 1: there that have plenty of film on and they're gonna 1885 01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,840 Speaker 1: know what they're looking at, and it'll come down to 1886 01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:13,600 Speaker 1: what they've seen, what they see in the preseason. Now 1887 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,439 Speaker 1: he comes in and he fits the Bills scheme and 1888 01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,080 Speaker 1: all that. Maybe he's the guy in and one of 1889 01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 1: the other guys is out, Ryan Bates or whoever is out. 1890 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:23,559 Speaker 1: But you're right. Here's the thing. I think their offensive 1891 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 1: line is going to take a step forward this year. 1892 01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,000 Speaker 1: And I do not believe that the starting five is 1893 01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 1: going to be from left to right, Dion Dawkins, Cody Ford, 1894 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 1: Mitch Morris, John Feliciano, Darry Williams. I just don't think 1895 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,759 Speaker 1: all five of those guys are gonna be on the field, 1896 01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 1: at least not in those positions left tackle to right tackle. 1897 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,360 Speaker 1: Write it down, how many? How many of those names 1898 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,120 Speaker 1: are on the field. You said they might be shuffled, 1899 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,160 Speaker 1: but how many of those five? And I don't need 1900 01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 1: the who, but I think five who remains in the 1901 01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,240 Speaker 1: starting lineup. I think at least three of them will, yeah, 1902 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 1: at least three, probably more than that, but that's the 1903 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 1: bare minimum. I don't think they're gonna They're not gonna 1904 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,680 Speaker 1: whole sale four guys, But I ain't gonna, you know, 1905 01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,719 Speaker 1: two guys. Is I think with the max that will 1906 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: not be there. Yeah, but it could be more. But 1907 01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:15,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm looking at three games. And 1908 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,320 Speaker 1: it could be like we said, like they might switch positions, 1909 01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,120 Speaker 1: like Feliciano might go to center, Darry Williams might go 1910 01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:27,320 Speaker 1: to guard, you know, or vice versa or whatever. So um, yeah, 1911 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 1: so who knows. But I do think there will be 1912 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,320 Speaker 1: some different names, at least one different name on the 1913 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 1: offensive line when they take the field. Eli on the 1914 01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,960 Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, are the Bills a real super Bowl 1915 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: contender or not? With a full training camp, we should 1916 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,599 Speaker 1: get a definitive answer. Really, I don't know if we're 1917 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna get a definitive answer coming out of training camp 1918 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,400 Speaker 1: with all the twists and turns that an NFL season 1919 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,240 Speaker 1: hands you, especially with an extra game this year. I mean, 1920 01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:50,840 Speaker 1: how many times do we say it's a week to 1921 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:52,720 Speaker 1: week league, Steve, I didn't know if you have a 1922 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender yet if you if you knew that 1923 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,880 Speaker 1: at the end of training camp, nobody would have picked 1924 01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks. That team lost three in a row in 1925 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:00,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the season, they didn't look like a 1926 01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:06,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender. Then well, there's two sides of this question. 1927 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:13,000 Speaker 1: Coming out of training camp. They're thirty two super Bowl contenders, right, 1928 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, because there's a lot of football has to 1929 01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,720 Speaker 1: be played and a lot of things that happen, and 1930 01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,200 Speaker 1: some teams catch lightning in a bottle and the team 1931 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,960 Speaker 1: that thought they were going to be good turns great 1932 01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,720 Speaker 1: and gets hot at the right time and goes to 1933 01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,759 Speaker 1: the distance, and then another team who you thought could 1934 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,720 Speaker 1: not miss, you know, lose as a key player and 1935 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,840 Speaker 1: they're not the same. So yeah, I sitting right now 1936 01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 1: before we go into the training camp, Brownie, the Bills 1937 01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,320 Speaker 1: are a super Bowl contender. Yeah, no question. And people, 1938 01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,559 Speaker 1: and that's not just you and me talking, that's everybody 1939 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 1: the national media who watches everybody and watch this team 1940 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,479 Speaker 1: last year and looks at their roster now and sees 1941 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 1: where they're at. A lot of people think, yeah, they 1942 01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:00,200 Speaker 1: are right now. I don't know why you need to 1943 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,080 Speaker 1: go to training camp to to you know, to get there. 1944 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,920 Speaker 1: I think they are just based on their roster depth. 1945 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,439 Speaker 1: The talent on the roster, even the youth that's in 1946 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:18,240 Speaker 1: the pipeline is encouraging. So I don't know if we 1947 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,760 Speaker 1: need training camp to prove that to us, And we 1948 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 1: certainly don't need preseason games to prove that to us, 1949 01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:28,680 Speaker 1: because preseason victories really don't prove anything, right, It's just 1950 01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:33,040 Speaker 1: a different animal completely. JT says the corner position and 1951 01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,120 Speaker 1: if anyone can dethrone the LEVI, he's a warrior, improves 1952 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,160 Speaker 1: every season. No one's taking his spot. Also, I can't 1953 01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: wait to see what the backfield looks like. Who makes 1954 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,880 Speaker 1: the cut, who's going to start Day one or will 1955 01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 1: they split reps throughout the season. Brita might be RB one. 1956 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. It's tough for him. I don't 1957 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,760 Speaker 1: know why why it won't be tougher for him that 1958 01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:01,280 Speaker 1: it will be for Devin Singletary and Matt Zack Moss. 1959 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's gonna be um. I think 1960 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:13,439 Speaker 1: he'll be right in the mix. Well, it's it's like 1961 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,479 Speaker 1: I said, I say this hour, it's like I said 1962 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 1: last hour. Steve the guy who displays the most versatile 1963 01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:24,800 Speaker 1: skill set, you know, the guy who does that just 1964 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:28,680 Speaker 1: by the way this offense runs. You know, just by 1965 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,760 Speaker 1: the way the offense runs, You're gonna have to be 1966 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,200 Speaker 1: able to throw that thing or catch the ball out 1967 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,240 Speaker 1: of the backfield and you're getting You better be damn 1968 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 1: good at pass protecting. You know, you better be good 1969 01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 1: at those two things because this team's throwing the ball 1970 01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:47,599 Speaker 1: forty five times a game, right, Yeah, And I bree 1971 01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: to bring something to every nobody else does on this team. Speed, 1972 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,439 Speaker 1: breakaway speed. Now there's now I would be interested in this. 1973 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,640 Speaker 1: Why is he not with San Francisco still? Why is 1974 01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: he not with Miami still? There's something there that bothers me. Yeah, 1975 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,000 Speaker 1: he was not. That's the question that he was not 1976 01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,960 Speaker 1: in the good graces of Brian Flores. In San Francisco, 1977 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,240 Speaker 1: he had production, he averaged over five yards to carry, 1978 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 1: and I think you could argue that it was largely 1979 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 1: a committee backfield in San Francisco and that's the reason 1980 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,920 Speaker 1: he didn't even see even more action than he did. 1981 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,920 Speaker 1: Miami is a different animal. But I think you and 1982 01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:28,000 Speaker 1: I are kind of learning that Brian Flores doesn't operate 1983 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,439 Speaker 1: the way some other coaches operate this league. Whether it's 1984 01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:36,240 Speaker 1: the example we saw last year of Miles Gaskin winning 1985 01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:39,600 Speaker 1: the starting job and largely holding onto it for the 1986 01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:45,080 Speaker 1: balance of the season, or him jettisoning five of his 1987 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:49,640 Speaker 1: eight captains from last year's roster, or how about this, 1988 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,000 Speaker 1: we try to talk about this enough training away Minca 1989 01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:57,400 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick one of the best young safeties in football. He 1990 01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:03,320 Speaker 1: does not care who you are. Yeah, And but I'll 1991 01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 1: say this too, And I don't know why, maybe it 1992 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,639 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't his call. But he's also the guy 1993 01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:17,920 Speaker 1: that drafted Toah. Yeah, and I've heard at least or 1994 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,840 Speaker 1: at least signed off on to Well, I'm I've I've 1995 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,520 Speaker 1: heard rumblings that hit was too. It was never his guy. Yeah, 1996 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 1: And you know how that is when the when ownership 1997 01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:32,839 Speaker 1: parachutes in and says this is the guy and he's 1998 01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, your handcuff, then you got to do it. 1999 01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:36,720 Speaker 1: But then you get the guy you wanted as in 2000 01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:40,360 Speaker 1: LA and runs Rookie of the Offensive, Rookie of the 2001 01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,880 Speaker 1: Year honors, and you're sitting there looking at your owner 2002 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: like going, I'm gonna do whatever I want. You can 2003 01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:47,360 Speaker 1: sit down and be quiet now because you just you 2004 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,920 Speaker 1: just absolutely sabotaged us by having us picked this guy 2005 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:55,640 Speaker 1: who can't play, so he's you can just send it. 2006 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,720 Speaker 1: He has made some decision like van noy big contract 2007 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:04,240 Speaker 1: one year boomed gone, Yeah, Hed Carross bag contract gone, 2008 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:09,480 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson gone. I mean they are they are ruthlessly 2009 01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,840 Speaker 1: turning that roster all the time. They won ten games 2010 01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,720 Speaker 1: last year. But I'll say this too, I think there 2011 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,640 Speaker 1: was something funky with their chemistry last year because they 2012 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,840 Speaker 1: would agree with that. They come into Buffalo with a 2013 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,800 Speaker 1: game they got to win and they had no chance win, 2014 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,799 Speaker 1: and you're in win and in they had no chance. 2015 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,920 Speaker 1: They were they had zero opportunity to win that game. 2016 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,679 Speaker 1: And then when it was fourteen to three. The body 2017 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:36,720 Speaker 1: language told you they were not going to compete the 2018 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:40,280 Speaker 1: rest of the day, and to their credit, the Bills 2019 01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,559 Speaker 1: rubbed their face in it. Yeah, absolutely rubbed their face 2020 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,040 Speaker 1: in it. Let's go to the phones at eight oh three, 2021 01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,479 Speaker 1: oh five fifty and see what you have there in 2022 01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,080 Speaker 1: terms of the one question you hope to have clearly 2023 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,639 Speaker 1: answered by the Bills by the end of training camp. 2024 01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:57,800 Speaker 1: We go to Mark in Tonawanda. Mark, what do you 2025 01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,479 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on One Bill's Live. Hey, guys, 2026 01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,519 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. UM. I think, um, what 2027 01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:08,960 Speaker 1: really needs to improve from last year is the linebacker play, 2028 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:14,080 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited for it, helping Matt Milano with um, 2029 01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, a beast and Tremaine Adamins. They played bad 2030 01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 1: against tight ends last year, though, guys and the New 2031 01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: England Patriots they beefed up. They're tight ends. They they 2032 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,400 Speaker 1: got two studs now there, and I just I'm excited 2033 01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:32,240 Speaker 1: to see how with an improved defensive line, hopefully that 2034 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:35,599 Speaker 1: frees up Tremaine Adamins and takes kind of the pressure 2035 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,400 Speaker 1: off him in Milano so they can just play and 2036 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, start wrecking people. But I'm gonna Hampen listen 2037 01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: next to having me on. Okay, I was gonna ask 2038 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,559 Speaker 1: you before you left how much you factor in, but 2039 01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 1: I'll ask Steve the question instead. Steve, improved linebacker play 2040 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 1: is what Mark is after. But how much do you 2041 01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,840 Speaker 1: chalk up the quality of the linebacker play last year 2042 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,679 Speaker 1: to the injuries that the group sustained. I mean Week two, 2043 01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,720 Speaker 1: Edmonds and Milano neither of them were on the field. Yeah, 2044 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:15,560 Speaker 1: Tyrell Dotson making his first career start with AJ Klein. Yeah. 2045 01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,280 Speaker 1: They I think Tremaine and Milano were nicked up through 2046 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 1: the throughout the first half of the season for a 2047 01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,000 Speaker 1: long time, and they played hurt. Tremaine came backs out 2048 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,719 Speaker 1: for one week, but he came back and he wasn't 2049 01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:30,040 Speaker 1: the same. He wasn't the same. Milano being out really 2050 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:33,439 Speaker 1: really hurt him badly. His hamstring injury was really bad. 2051 01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,240 Speaker 1: That really hurt him. And they were trying to adjust 2052 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,519 Speaker 1: their defense to get And we've said this a bunch 2053 01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,439 Speaker 1: in this offseason. The coaching staff was trying to just 2054 01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 1: plug guys in to have him do what Tremaine and 2055 01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: Milano did. And Tremaine was out for one week. When 2056 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,080 Speaker 1: he came back, they tried to get him to do 2057 01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,120 Speaker 1: what he did, and then they tried to get a J. 2058 01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,920 Speaker 1: Klein to do exactly what Milano didn't. He just couldn't 2059 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,559 Speaker 1: do it. He didn't have the speed to do it. 2060 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,840 Speaker 1: Milano is better in coverage, better in space, and AJ 2061 01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,400 Speaker 1: Klein is a better pass rusher, he's a better physical 2062 01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,080 Speaker 1: player up inside. So when they started asking Kline to 2063 01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,519 Speaker 1: do that instead of trying to do what Milano did, 2064 01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:15,519 Speaker 1: that linebacking got better even in Milano's absence. So, but 2065 01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,360 Speaker 1: when Milano came back, then they were back to who 2066 01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,439 Speaker 1: they were they wanted to be right, and I think 2067 01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,160 Speaker 1: it so. I think the defense as far as linebackers goes, 2068 01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:27,400 Speaker 1: was a mess all year. Not that in that those 2069 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,000 Speaker 1: guys didn't play well when they were in there and 2070 01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,320 Speaker 1: when they were healthy, just that you know, they were 2071 01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,600 Speaker 1: never that way they were and there was no consistency 2072 01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,960 Speaker 1: in terms of availability. Right now this year, if they 2073 01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,160 Speaker 1: come in and they stay healthy and they get better 2074 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,160 Speaker 1: line play and a better pass rush and all that, 2075 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,120 Speaker 1: certainly everybody gets better. Those guys up front play better. 2076 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:51,880 Speaker 1: Tremaine and Matt are going to play better, and that's 2077 01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,520 Speaker 1: where it's all going to start. There's an opportunity there 2078 01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,560 Speaker 1: for the people behind Mulano and Edmonds. I mean, people 2079 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 1: are familiar with Tyrell Dobson because he had to get 2080 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,760 Speaker 1: on the fe last year, as well as a J. Klein. 2081 01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: But after those guys, it's open season, man. I mean, 2082 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:07,880 Speaker 1: Maddikavich is on the roster because of what he does 2083 01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:13,240 Speaker 1: special teams wise, so he's probably on. Andre Smith carved 2084 01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:16,040 Speaker 1: out a niche for himself because of his special team's abilities. 2085 01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:20,240 Speaker 1: But you're talking Joe Giles, Harris, Mike Bell, Tyrrell Adams, 2086 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:23,720 Speaker 1: Mark kell Lee, and then Andre Smith and Mattekavich. I 2087 01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:30,400 Speaker 1: mean it's open season for jobs there behind Milano and Edmonds. Yeah, 2088 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:33,440 Speaker 1: but I think too, you got certainly got to play 2089 01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 1: good linebacker. But man, that's a special team's paradise in there. 2090 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,800 Speaker 1: Those two guys never come off the field, right, Yeah. 2091 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,640 Speaker 1: So the spot that you actually have a chance to 2092 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:46,960 Speaker 1: get on the field and take snaps barring injury is 2093 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:51,400 Speaker 1: the nickel linebacker or the base defense linebacker. You know, 2094 01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:55,040 Speaker 1: so if you know, if they ever go three linebackers, 2095 01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 1: who's that gonna be, which they don't do very much 2096 01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:03,840 Speaker 1: except in you know, sit rational football. So Basically you're 2097 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,600 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, special teams guys. That's what A. J. 2098 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,320 Speaker 1: Klein thought he was going to be last year. That's 2099 01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:14,200 Speaker 1: what Metakevich is. You know Tyrell Dodson, that's what he does. 2100 01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,200 Speaker 1: Those guys are core special teamers. Now they got pressed 2101 01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,440 Speaker 1: into service because of the injuries, and maybe that'll happen 2102 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,280 Speaker 1: again this year as well, but that's not the plan. 2103 01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:25,840 Speaker 1: And during training camp, those are the kind of conversations 2104 01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna make the difference between who those backup guys are. 2105 01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:33,400 Speaker 1: That is the alone, the decision who's the better, Who's 2106 01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,760 Speaker 1: the guy in a perfect scenario is going to contribute 2107 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:41,480 Speaker 1: more on special teams, you know than playing linebacker where 2108 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,080 Speaker 1: he's not going to be asked to play except you know, 2109 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:47,040 Speaker 1: to finishadow game. Balance this out for me if you could. Okay, 2110 01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,400 Speaker 1: we know this is a defense. The anticipation anyway is 2111 01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 1: they're probably going to play a whole lot of nickel 2112 01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 1: again this year, just like they did last year. Now, 2113 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:59,160 Speaker 1: last year they were ninety percent nickel. If this offense 2114 01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,440 Speaker 1: is humming along they expected to, they'll be playing with 2115 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,440 Speaker 1: the lead and other teams are gonna be thrown a lot, 2116 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:06,480 Speaker 1: so I think the anticipation is it's gonna be probably 2117 01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,600 Speaker 1: somewhere between eighty five nine Nickel again this year. So 2118 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,280 Speaker 1: knowing you only have two starting linebackers on the field, 2119 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:18,080 Speaker 1: special teams needs for linebackers notwithstanding, what is the number 2120 01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,440 Speaker 1: that is ultimately kept at linebacker on a fifty three 2121 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,320 Speaker 1: man roster for this type of a defense? Is it six? 2122 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,600 Speaker 1: Can you afford to go as low as five? It's 2123 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:33,720 Speaker 1: certainly not more than six, is it? I think it's five? Yeah, 2124 01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 1: depending on Like a guy like Bam Johnson, he covers 2125 01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:42,280 Speaker 1: kicks and he's and he's a d lineman, so that 2126 01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 1: gives you space somewhere else to break to keep a 2127 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 1: player instead of a special teamer. And if if like 2128 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:54,800 Speaker 1: Zimmer can play special teams because of his speed, that 2129 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:58,840 Speaker 1: gives you a boost as well. If if you know 2130 01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:02,480 Speaker 1: to take one linebacker to take anne less linebacker, if 2131 01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:03,680 Speaker 1: you've got a guy that can fill in, or if 2132 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,560 Speaker 1: you get it, if you've got to say, for instance, 2133 01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: if your fourth and fifth corner are special, hardcore special 2134 01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:12,280 Speaker 1: teams guys, and they've got some weight, they've got some size, 2135 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,520 Speaker 1: then that you know, yeah, five linebackers on game day, 2136 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,560 Speaker 1: And what if you're And here's another thing to you 2137 01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:24,200 Speaker 1: consider too, Steve. You know these hybrid position list requirements 2138 01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,960 Speaker 1: that defenses are requiring more and more. If you have 2139 01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:32,520 Speaker 1: a fifth safety who can serve as a hybrid linebacker 2140 01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:36,040 Speaker 1: in a nickel package better than any and it's more 2141 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:42,280 Speaker 1: athletic than any sixth linebacker you have, you're probably keeping 2142 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 1: a fifth safety instead of a sixth linebacker. Right. That's right, 2143 01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,200 Speaker 1: And that's you're talking. That's what you're talking about. When 2144 01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,240 Speaker 1: you get into the roster makeup. It's the bottom of 2145 01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:55,880 Speaker 1: every position group is pure special teams. Some teams go 2146 01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,520 Speaker 1: as far as to say the last guy at every 2147 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,520 Speaker 1: single position group is a special teams guy. So you 2148 01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,160 Speaker 1: got a running back, you got a tight end, you 2149 01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:06,120 Speaker 1: got a wide out, and you got an offensive lineman, 2150 01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,960 Speaker 1: you got a defensive lineman, a linebacker, safety in a corner. 2151 01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:15,840 Speaker 1: That's eight guys that are your core. That's plenty. That's 2152 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,080 Speaker 1: plenty because you can on a kickoff coverage team you 2153 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,720 Speaker 1: throw in some guys to play safety and play safe. 2154 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,120 Speaker 1: You got the kicker, the punter, and they got the kicker, 2155 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,680 Speaker 1: the punter, and the and the special team and the snapper. 2156 01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,320 Speaker 1: But eight core guys is plenty because then on punt team, 2157 01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,760 Speaker 1: you got eight guys out there. Three of them you have, 2158 01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, and the other two are the snapper and 2159 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,800 Speaker 1: the and the punter. So that gives you one guy 2160 01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,760 Speaker 1: to fill in on one spot that is not a 2161 01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,520 Speaker 1: core guy. Yeah, and it's the same on kickoff, except 2162 01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:47,640 Speaker 1: it's two guys instead of one because you only got 2163 01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:49,920 Speaker 1: the you know, they had the kicker there. So that's 2164 01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,800 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking at. The last guy to every 2165 01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 1: position group being a special team or now if you've 2166 01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 1: got it, because here's the thing, what are you gonna 2167 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,200 Speaker 1: got eight offensive linemen? Well, how are those offensive linemen 2168 02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:06,200 Speaker 1: gonna help you? When they're doing nothing but you know 2169 02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:09,720 Speaker 1: field goal protect You know, you got to find a 2170 02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,720 Speaker 1: way to find those guys to get to contribute. But 2171 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:14,960 Speaker 1: there's just nowhere for those guys to contribute. Same thing 2172 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,320 Speaker 1: with defensive linemen. If they can't run, they're all they 2173 02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 1: do is stand there. They're taking up a roster spot 2174 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:22,440 Speaker 1: and they take what six snaps a game. That's not enough. 2175 02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:25,400 Speaker 1: You want to get production and contributions all over the 2176 02:00:25,480 --> 02:00:28,240 Speaker 1: roster on every snap, which is why Zimmer could really 2177 02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:31,440 Speaker 1: help himself, which is why Zimmer with his speed could 2178 02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,720 Speaker 1: really a versatile guy like that could plug into a 2179 02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of situations on shortyardage offense, shortyardage defense, special teams, 2180 02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:42,280 Speaker 1: get right, all of that stuff. Those are guys that 2181 02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,480 Speaker 1: are invaluable on a roster because they allow you to 2182 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,720 Speaker 1: keep a guy who can play without having to ask 2183 02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:54,280 Speaker 1: his roster spot for special teams contribution. Break time here. 2184 02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,480 Speaker 1: When we come back, we will close things up on 2185 02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:01,200 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet with a defensive line question that one 2186 02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,960 Speaker 1: of our respondents is hoping is answered, and then a 2187 02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,400 Speaker 1: little bit of NFL true false. It's coming your way 2188 02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,600 Speaker 1: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Collid to Health, 2189 02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:19,280 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, close things up on 2190 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. Here, Yosh shines in and says, my 2191 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,240 Speaker 1: biggest question that I want answered by the time the 2192 02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Bill has come out of training camp is whether Ed 2193 02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Oliver is going to become a force. We talked about 2194 02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:35,200 Speaker 1: him on the show yesterday. Steve as one of the 2195 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,960 Speaker 1: players that probably has to break out on the defensive 2196 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:41,240 Speaker 1: side of the ball this year. He's got to have 2197 02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:44,120 Speaker 1: like a breakout type season year three. This is where 2198 02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the rubber meets the road for a guy like him. Yeah, 2199 02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:52,080 Speaker 1: it's it's year three for Ed Oliver, it's year three 2200 02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:57,240 Speaker 1: for Dawson Knox, It's you're three for Devin Singletary. It's 2201 02:01:57,240 --> 02:02:03,240 Speaker 1: that twenty nineteen draft class. Yeah. That, and it's it's 2202 02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:05,960 Speaker 1: We've said it a lot, and it's a thing. It's 2203 02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:07,720 Speaker 1: a real thing. And the third year in your NFL 2204 02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:10,160 Speaker 1: it's when you kind of peep things either take off 2205 02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:11,920 Speaker 1: or don't. And I think you can count on one 2206 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:15,280 Speaker 1: of those guys, one of the three doing just what 2207 02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about, Dawson Knox, Devin Singletary or Ed Oliver. 2208 02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I think one of them is gonna do it, is 2209 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys that really really jumps 2210 02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,440 Speaker 1: in their third year. Could be two of them, I don't. 2211 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:29,920 Speaker 1: It's a little bit to ask for all three of them, 2212 02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:32,240 Speaker 1: but I think one of at least one of them 2213 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,880 Speaker 1: is gonna make that jump. I don't know who it's 2214 02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna be, whether Ed or Dawson or Devin. I think 2215 02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I can count on one of them doing it, and 2216 02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:44,400 Speaker 1: you can probably count on one of them not doing it, 2217 02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, and and moving along on their way, 2218 02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe not getting their option picked up or whatever what 2219 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,160 Speaker 1: have you. But I think that opportunities there for all 2220 02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:59,280 Speaker 1: of them, and I think, you know, statistically speaking, you 2221 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:02,160 Speaker 1: can count on one of them getting it done. But 2222 02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,400 Speaker 1: then I said, I think too that with this coaching staff, 2223 02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:09,680 Speaker 1: in this culture, this is you know, it's hard to 2224 02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 1: imagine a place that a player would thrive more than 2225 02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,200 Speaker 1: they would thrive in Buffalo. So I have high hopes 2226 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:20,440 Speaker 1: for all three of those guys, but I'm I'm almost 2227 02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:23,240 Speaker 1: sure and deep in my heart, my gut tells me 2228 02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:26,800 Speaker 1: one of them is really going to bust out. Yeah. 2229 02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:32,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of improvement, we go to NFL 2230 02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 1: True False, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's 2231 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Artists and Cheese Steve and the first NFL True False 2232 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:43,920 Speaker 1: There deals with improvement on the part of Bill's players 2233 02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:48,240 Speaker 1: as well. NFL True False number one Zach Moss will 2234 02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:52,360 Speaker 1: be the Bill's most improved player in twenty twenty one. 2235 02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:57,680 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com projected him as the Bill's most improved 2236 02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,720 Speaker 1: player in twenty twenty one. They did one for every 2237 02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:03,480 Speaker 1: AFC team they picked Zach Moss for the Bills. What 2238 02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:10,040 Speaker 1: say you on that? Uh, I think, I think, I 2239 02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,160 Speaker 1: think there's too many opportunities for other guys to do 2240 02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:13,640 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Zach Moss is going to 2241 02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,160 Speaker 1: get that much of a share of the opportunity of 2242 02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the hand. I anticipate a running back by committee once 2243 02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,839 Speaker 1: again this season. And while Zach Moss could improve by 2244 02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:27,240 Speaker 1: just by by the fact that he's gonna get more opportunities, 2245 02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:29,600 Speaker 1: I think he's still not going to be a number 2246 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,200 Speaker 1: one running back because I just don't think that's the 2247 02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:33,800 Speaker 1: way this team does business. Yeah, so I'd have to 2248 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:36,240 Speaker 1: say false to that. I'm he's gonna improve. I have 2249 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,200 Speaker 1: every reason to think he's gonna improve. He's gonna come back, 2250 02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be healthier, and whenever his leg where 2251 02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,920 Speaker 1: his ankle gets to one hundred percent or whatever, I 2252 02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,680 Speaker 1: think he's still going to be a really good player. 2253 02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,560 Speaker 1: But I think there is much more opportunities for other 2254 02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:51,960 Speaker 1: players that we just mentioned at Oliver Dawson, Knox, Devin 2255 02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Singletary to improve even more because of their opportunities. Yeah, 2256 02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I there are a couple of things at play here 2257 02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,800 Speaker 1: that I I think could compromise Moss being the most 2258 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,880 Speaker 1: improved player for the Bills in twenty twenty one. Some 2259 02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:09,280 Speaker 1: of the things that you just mentioned, you know, the 2260 02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:12,680 Speaker 1: time share that will exist at running back. Even though 2261 02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:16,720 Speaker 1: as the NFL dot Com writ up pointed out, Moss 2262 02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:19,440 Speaker 1: was steadily getting more and more time on the field 2263 02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:22,760 Speaker 1: as the season wore on, he did prove for the 2264 02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:26,400 Speaker 1: most part to be the better inside runner for this team, 2265 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:31,080 Speaker 1: which I don't think is any surprise to anyone. But yeah, 2266 02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:34,400 Speaker 1: I think opportunity is not going to be plentiful for 2267 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,600 Speaker 1: any of the running backs just by virtue of how 2268 02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:41,080 Speaker 1: this offense operates. And then second, and I don't know 2269 02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:44,560 Speaker 1: that this is getting enough attention, Zach Moss has to 2270 02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:48,120 Speaker 1: prove to himself first that he's the same guy that 2271 02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,640 Speaker 1: he used to be coming off of ankle surgery. Ankle 2272 02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:54,640 Speaker 1: surgery is nothing to sneeze at. It is a serious 2273 02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,640 Speaker 1: thing to come back from, especially at a position like 2274 02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,280 Speaker 1: running back, which is which just has so much high 2275 02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:06,200 Speaker 1: impact on your joints on every single play. And so 2276 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a little bit of a 2277 02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,960 Speaker 1: mental hurdle for him to clear their First, he's gonna 2278 02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:13,200 Speaker 1: have to prove to himself he's the same old Zach 2279 02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,920 Speaker 1: Moss before he proves it to the coaching staff, as teammates, 2280 02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,959 Speaker 1: and the rest of the league. So for those reasons, 2281 02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I will It's not that I don't believe in Zach Moss, 2282 02:06:21,240 --> 02:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I do, but I think for those reasons, I don't 2283 02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,400 Speaker 1: know if I could call him the most improved player 2284 02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:28,920 Speaker 1: on the Bills in twenty twenty one. I really think 2285 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,520 Speaker 1: a JP and S is going to take a run 2286 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:34,120 Speaker 1: at that this year. That's a possibility too. NFL true 2287 02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,880 Speaker 1: false number two. No first round QB from the twenty 2288 02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:40,240 Speaker 1: eighteen draft class will get extended before the season starts. 2289 02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,160 Speaker 1: This is an easy one for me. False all the 2290 02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,280 Speaker 1: way right. One of them will, for sure, if it's 2291 02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:50,880 Speaker 1: Lamar or Josh, definitely one of those two is gonna sign. 2292 02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,760 Speaker 1: They got to get on that. Yeah, they gotta get 2293 02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:55,800 Speaker 1: on that before one of them win. Lamar wins a 2294 02:06:55,880 --> 02:07:00,120 Speaker 1: second MVP and or Josh wins his first. You know, 2295 02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:01,480 Speaker 1: they got to get on it. But the price and 2296 02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the price is not going down. And all three of 2297 02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,080 Speaker 1: those teams know it. Cleveland, Baltimore, and Buffalo, they all 2298 02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:09,280 Speaker 1: know that the price is not going down. It's going 2299 02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:14,160 Speaker 1: up for quarterbacks. Yeah, so I am false all the 2300 02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:17,760 Speaker 1: way up. That's like it's gonna be Lamar or Josh. 2301 02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:19,760 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those two guys that gets 2302 02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:25,879 Speaker 1: done before they start playing real regular season games NFL 2303 02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:30,720 Speaker 1: true false Number three. Oh, we actually touched on this 2304 02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:36,360 Speaker 1: already on the show today. Washington has the best defensive 2305 02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:47,000 Speaker 1: line in the NFL. Um they certainly loaded. I think 2306 02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,400 Speaker 1: if you if you line I gotta say that, I'll 2307 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:51,160 Speaker 1: just say this. I'll say true just because of this. 2308 02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:55,760 Speaker 1: If you lined all their guys up and gave you 2309 02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,520 Speaker 1: a choice of who you want to start it, you 2310 02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:00,720 Speaker 1: know wanted to go with. I might choose Wa strictly 2311 02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:04,640 Speaker 1: because how young they are. They've got great players, and 2312 02:08:04,680 --> 02:08:08,480 Speaker 1: they're seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, and twenty all first round picks, right, 2313 02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and they're both and they're playing well. They're all playing 2314 02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:14,680 Speaker 1: they playing really well. Isn't that scary that probably three 2315 02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:19,760 Speaker 1: of those guys haven't even hit their prime yet? Man alive? Right? 2316 02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I just I just think, yeah, I might say yes, 2317 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,960 Speaker 1: I might say yes. I'm trying to rack my brain 2318 02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, Arizona obviously has Watt and Jones, 2319 02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,480 Speaker 1: although I think most would agree Watt isn't what he 2320 02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:39,680 Speaker 1: used to be, and they have Jordan Phillips there. Pittsburgh 2321 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:43,160 Speaker 1: still has Cam Hayward and t J. Watt, and now 2322 02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:45,680 Speaker 1: they have Melvin Ingram. But I think we would all 2323 02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:47,960 Speaker 1: agree he's not what he used to be and Cam 2324 02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:49,800 Speaker 1: Hayward might not even be what he used to be. 2325 02:08:51,280 --> 02:08:54,280 Speaker 1: The only defensive line I would put up against it 2326 02:08:54,320 --> 02:09:01,480 Speaker 1: is probably Tampa Shack Barrett, Jason Pierre, Paul Vida Vella 2327 02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:06,240 Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue. I think I I think that's the 2328 02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:10,280 Speaker 1: only one that's right there with them, right right. I 2329 02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,960 Speaker 1: can't come up with another one off the top of 2330 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,440 Speaker 1: my head right now. That's that's the only one that 2331 02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:18,680 Speaker 1: I think is right there with him, right So, for 2332 02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:21,120 Speaker 1: for argument's sake, because of the youth that Steve meant, 2333 02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say true. That is NFL true false, brought 2334 02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,640 Speaker 1: to you by Yancy's fancy Jonathan Allen just signing the 2335 02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:32,960 Speaker 1: seven two million dollars expansion with thirty million dollars up front. 2336 02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:37,480 Speaker 1: That's the defensive tackle on that. They've also got uh Montes, 2337 02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:43,080 Speaker 1: sweat Chase sweat Chase, you and Darren darn Payne. I 2338 02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:48,640 Speaker 1: mean that's a group, dude, That's that is a group group. Yea, yeah, 2339 02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:51,160 Speaker 1: if you're gonna pick some to go forward with, A 2340 02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:52,960 Speaker 1: pick a defensive line where you're gonna start this year 2341 02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and go forward with. That's the one, right, That's that's 2342 02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the ticket, man, that's the one. All right. That's NFL 2343 02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:00,440 Speaker 1: true false. Brought to you by Nancy's Fancy Steve and 2344 02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,880 Speaker 1: I step aside, but we come back to close it 2345 02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:05,720 Speaker 1: all up next here on one Bill's Live, presented by 2346 02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio whatever, brought to you 2347 02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:20,720 Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. 2348 02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I probably don't have that completely right, but Skyworks is 2349 02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:26,120 Speaker 1: bringing you what have we learned. I'll get it better, 2350 02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:28,760 Speaker 1: I'll get it right tomorrow. In any event, what we 2351 02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:33,160 Speaker 1: have learned is COVID has already impacted some NFL training 2352 02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:36,240 Speaker 1: camps and added to the list now Ravens running back 2353 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards tested positive for COVID and he will miss 2354 02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:44,800 Speaker 1: the first ten days of training camp, which obviously means 2355 02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:48,640 Speaker 1: he is unvaccinated coming to training camp, tests positive and 2356 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,680 Speaker 1: now goes into an automatic ten day quarantine. So wow, 2357 02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:57,040 Speaker 1: obviously he's not vaccinated. Yeah, and you know, we spent 2358 02:10:57,120 --> 02:11:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of time I read this from Mike Vrabel, coach. 2359 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:01,840 Speaker 1: He goes, I don't know what everybody's worried about this 2360 02:11:01,880 --> 02:11:07,080 Speaker 1: eighty five percent vaccination rate. It really is is irrelevant 2361 02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,000 Speaker 1: because what the league has done. It doesn't matter if 2362 02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:12,520 Speaker 1: your team's eighty five percent vaccinated or not. Yeah, there 2363 02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,200 Speaker 1: are protocols for vaccinated players, and there are protocols for 2364 02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:22,000 Speaker 1: unvaccinated players. That's the protocol. It's not all the all 2365 02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:23,960 Speaker 1: the feeders are off. If you get eighty five percent, 2366 02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,360 Speaker 1: everybody's free to do whatever. That doesn't exist. It is 2367 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:30,080 Speaker 1: not the case. Everybody who's vaccinated is gonna have a 2368 02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,640 Speaker 1: much easier day of work than the guys who are 2369 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,000 Speaker 1: not vaccinated. And if you test positive and are not vaccinated, 2370 02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:38,840 Speaker 1: you're gone for ten days during the first part of 2371 02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:42,200 Speaker 1: training camp. It's like you don't exist. You are fun 2372 02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:44,760 Speaker 1: making the roster. You have no Yeah, you have no 2373 02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:46,880 Speaker 1: chance of making the roster. You really don't. I mean, 2374 02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, you forget it unless you're one of the 2375 02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:52,720 Speaker 1: top ten players on the team. Like, well, I get that, 2376 02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:57,960 Speaker 1: but still, but yours majority you missed ten days, missed 2377 02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:02,960 Speaker 1: ten days at training camp. You can't on the fields 2378 02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,720 Speaker 1: so we can keep track of all the percentages we want, 2379 02:12:06,120 --> 02:12:09,000 Speaker 1: it's only until you get like one hundred percent vaccination 2380 02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:12,400 Speaker 1: radius is anything going to be substantially different for the 2381 02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:16,840 Speaker 1: entire team. If you're not vaccinated, you're gonna be sequestered, 2382 02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:22,680 Speaker 1: set apart, your life's gonna be miserable. Unlike the vaccinated players, 2383 02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:24,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a little bit easier time of it. Yeah, 2384 02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:29,920 Speaker 1: big show tomorrow obviously the first practice on the field 2385 02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:31,920 Speaker 1: a training camp for the Bills. Steve and I will 2386 02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:34,720 Speaker 1: give you the latest from camp practice number one. They 2387 02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:37,560 Speaker 1: also expect to hear from head coach Sean McDermott and 2388 02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:41,600 Speaker 1: possibly Josh Allen as well after practice that we'll be 2389 02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:44,760 Speaker 1: able to bring that to you. And we also have 2390 02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:49,760 Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Jim Trotter, Gigantic Show, and also the instigators 2391 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:52,360 Speaker 1: will be chock full too with NHL free agency. It's 2392 02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:55,160 Speaker 1: all coming your way tomorrow One Bill's Live. We'll see 2393 02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you then,