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Speaker 1: A couple of announcements before we get going. Sullivan's Crossing,
Speaker 1: my new TV series just announced a day premiere date
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Speaker 1: Get it again, Yeah, one more time.
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Speaker 1: Out Sullivan's Crossing premiere date is October fourth, that's a
Speaker 1: Wednesday evening, eight pm on the CW network. Sullivan's Crossing
Speaker 1: episode one pilot episode. And then after that you've got
Speaker 1: the Spencer Sisters starring Leah Thompson.
Speaker 2: And did you see your co star is having a baby.
Speaker 1: His wife? Yeah, but yes, no, this is fantastic. Dude,
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Speaker 2: So cool.
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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, love and prayers, happy and healthy
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Speaker 2: That's a good one. It's not gonna be hot.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: My gosh.
Speaker 1: So it's also there's a Charleston event with Chad and
Speaker 1: Matt in September, mid September I think September sixteenth, Charles
Speaker 1: in South Carolina FAB five events.
Speaker 2: So we need to go.
Speaker 1: We're all over, Yeah, we need to podcast from Yeah,
Speaker 1: But anyway, Danielle take us away on the synopsization of
Speaker 1: Jews and Chinese food.
Speaker 2: All right, got just made up a new word, synopsization, synopsisization.
Speaker 1: That's ten times back.
Speaker 3: I don't think I can repeat it.
Speaker 1: Synopsisization. All right.
Speaker 3: This is season five, episode fifteen, Jews and Chinese Food.
Speaker 3: Air date fibrus are twenty second, two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Lorelai has hurt again when she realizes Luke has moved
Speaker 3: his boat from her garage without even telling her Luke
Speaker 3: helps the school kids build the sets for their Fiddler
Speaker 3: on the Roof play in hopes of working with Lorelai,
Speaker 3: who he is realizing he's he misses. Rory tries to
Speaker 3: make up with Marty by hosting a movie night, but
Speaker 3: Logan interferes.
Speaker 1: Boy, did I tell you I'm liking that Marty. I'm
Speaker 1: liking Marty.
Speaker 2: I'm loving that Logan.
Speaker 1: You gotta like that.
Speaker 2: That kiss. I won't go to the end first.
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, so this is this is this the
Speaker 1: first time Lorelai meets Doyle, the first time I've talk
Speaker 1: about a home run.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite lines of the whole thing. She s,
Speaker 2: do you have the wrong room? He goes, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh my god, yeah, so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when Lauren gets to do her funny comedic stuff.
Speaker 2: I can wait outside. I gotta get away from this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah really Yeah. And then a lot of a little
Speaker 1: too much information that parents are sharing about the frequency
Speaker 1: of their their boinking. See, these are things I made
Speaker 1: a list of things we didn't know before Logan went
Speaker 1: to andover Stars Hollow has a Marina Rory's woman, Marty
Speaker 1: has eighteen dollars in his bank account. One of them
Speaker 1: is a Paris and Doyle boink three four times a week.
Speaker 1: Oh god, And that's just an image you can't get
Speaker 1: out of your head.
Speaker 2: Right, And the paragraph has been informed of the breakup
Speaker 2: between Luke and Lorelai.
Speaker 5: She has no filter, like I would not be like
Speaker 5: by the way I heard about the breakup. You know,
Speaker 5: it's my friend adult, you're.
Speaker 2: Like an adult.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then and then she goes, I shouldn't be
Speaker 3: talking about sex because well, you're never having any. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, carrot.
Speaker 2: So good, and we kind of learned that Friday night
Speaker 2: dinner is obviously not happening. Yeah, and they're having cafeteria food,
Speaker 2: which when they said this looks good, I was like,
Speaker 2: does it ice cream?
Speaker 5: Did? I?
Speaker 1: Thought?
Speaker 6: And he threw it away. I know they took like
Speaker 6: two bites got a brain freeze.
Speaker 2: And that banter was amazing of the like, oh, where's
Speaker 2: the clicks? Like where do the cool kids sit? And
Speaker 2: then like she kind of keeps coming around to that.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is like so good. There's a great
Speaker 2: fruit shortage. The bet is having a boat Talks party
Speaker 2: with Miss Patty, Like it's just like you're getting so
Speaker 2: much information in like three minutes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in the whole episode too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she switched to Weston's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it, and she ordered uh coffee, coffee, coffee,
Speaker 1: She's got three coffee. And then there was a standoff
Speaker 1: with the uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Western's woman did not want to play.
Speaker 1: She wasn't. She wasn't. She wasn't. She wasn't she was
Speaker 1: immune to luralized charms, wasn't she?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, I thought this was an interesting
Speaker 2: sort of thing we learned in this open, you know,
Speaker 2: we're past the credit having the dinner, is that Rory
Speaker 2: was quite concerned that Richard was in on it, and
Speaker 2: she sort of lorealizes, you know, I I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't think he was. Maybe he wouldn't have been Broun necessarily,
Speaker 2: but he's.
Speaker 1: Emily Hitler, right, Yeah, she compared her. She compared Emily
Speaker 1: to Hitler. So that makes Richard a brown rough.
Speaker 7: Question.
Speaker 1: How much did Ava Braun know?
Speaker 2: I think that's sort of important. It's like Richard, he's
Speaker 2: not perfect, but he's not sort of as calculating I think,
Speaker 2: I mean, I.
Speaker 6: Think he's neutral between them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find that concern of Rory's to be
Speaker 3: interesting because I think for her, she's so close to Richard,
Speaker 3: you know, like she has a bond with him that
Speaker 3: I think is stronger than Emily's in a weird way.
Speaker 3: Like they have this like you know, banter and playful relationship.
Speaker 3: And I think like he.
Speaker 1: Was really her father too, because he's sort of her
Speaker 1: father slash grandfather, because she doesn't have much of a.
Speaker 3: And I think it would really bum her out if
Speaker 3: she knew that he knew, like more so than Emily
Speaker 3: doing it, you know what I mean, Like I think
Speaker 3: it would really really bum her out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such an important thing to bring up, just
Speaker 2: for us to discuss. Like she is closer with Richard,
Speaker 2: like it might be you know, small, but she is
Speaker 2: more bonded with him, and I think she relates to
Speaker 2: him more sees herself in him when he comes.
Speaker 3: To Yale and like hangs out with her and helps
Speaker 3: her with pranks, and you know, like they're just like
Speaker 3: I don't know, you just see that they're connected.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is interesting because Laurel I really
Speaker 1: never mentions Richard as you know, a nemesis.
Speaker 2: No, right, she she really it's really her mother.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like he's married to the antagonist of
Speaker 1: this piece.
Speaker 2: Guilty by association, Guilty by association for.
Speaker 1: You to say, come on, man, synopsisisation, guilty by association,
Speaker 1: what's wrong happy hour? Early today?
Speaker 2: Well say by association? I don't even think I can
Speaker 2: get it now.
Speaker 6: But he is.
Speaker 2: And then we kind of learned that there's some angst
Speaker 2: which we obviously could see coming between Marty and Rory
Speaker 2: when he just vanished is more or less? Says you
Speaker 2: guys rumbling, Oh Marty, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We've all been Marty. Come on at one time or another,
Speaker 1: have we all been Marty?
Speaker 2: And like, actually or even says I've been dumped before.
Speaker 2: Like she really calls it a dumping, which I wouldn't
Speaker 2: call it a dumping, but she says, I've been dumped before.
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: What would you call it as as?
Speaker 3: But then but then, but then Rory says, but not
Speaker 3: by Luke. That was my favorite, my favorite line of
Speaker 3: the episode.
Speaker 2: Actually, and I think they're too connected for it to
Speaker 2: be a dumping. Like a dumping is when a guy's
Speaker 2: a jerk, or like a girl's like you know.
Speaker 1: Ship, No, she was a jerk. And she got dumped.
Speaker 2: She did things wrong and he's heartbroken about it.
Speaker 1: And the guy's always jerks. Women can't be Is it
Speaker 1: possible for a woman to be a jerk?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah, associated term with women, do you jerk?
Speaker 2: Because Scott Scott, they don't use the word jerk. They
Speaker 2: use the word b When a woman's a jerk, they
Speaker 2: say she's a bee. Yeah, so they're probably worse than
Speaker 2: a jerk. But I don't think you were a jerk
Speaker 2: or Loria was a jerk. And I don't think they
Speaker 2: dumped each other or anyone dumped. It was like a
Speaker 2: painful like they don't want to be broken up.
Speaker 6: It was it was just like a separation.
Speaker 1: His mind is blown. So the boat, let's he's a
Speaker 1: wounded seal around on the beach.
Speaker 2: The boat is in front of the diner. And that
Speaker 2: was a little.
Speaker 3: Bit that was passive aggressive, that was.
Speaker 5: But that was like where else you gonna put it?
Speaker 2: A diner?
Speaker 3: You literally took a snipe out of a mean girl's
Speaker 3: book and was like, I'm going to put my boat
Speaker 3: without everyone in front of the diner.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but to mad.
Speaker 3: About it, but it was definitely I just don't think
Speaker 3: that Luke thought of it, like obviously to the viewer,
Speaker 3: to Laurel, I to the city, everyone thought that.
Speaker 6: But I don't think Luke thought. He's just like, I'm
Speaker 6: moving it, you know, he's.
Speaker 1: Just kind of horror.
Speaker 2: She could have left it there while this.
Speaker 1: Is where Dean steps in. Somehow Dean has a has
Speaker 1: a garage space. Could have slipped it into Dean's garage space.
Speaker 1: So where's the boat. I don't see the boat. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I put it in Dean's.
Speaker 2: I take it to Gypsy.
Speaker 1: She's got take the gypsy like Gypsy want to charge
Speaker 1: me five bucks a week. So I took it to Dean.
Speaker 2: Right, So here's something that I did enjoy. So we
Speaker 2: go from the boat and then we go into the
Speaker 2: news room and Doyle's given his thing and Rory goes
Speaker 2: out to see Marty. Did you guys notice Marty's got.
Speaker 6: The scarf I did?
Speaker 5: I did it thrown over his shoulder and that specific Hey, hey.
Speaker 2: Hey, they're outside. It's waiting to throw this scarf on it.
Speaker 5: But I just wish you could like have it hang down,
Speaker 5: not like one over the shoulder, or if it.
Speaker 2: Was cold, you'd be kind of bundled in it like
Speaker 2: it's just it's just it's an afterthought.
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's the reality. Guys. You know, I know
Speaker 1: you want all these things. You know it's a but
Speaker 1: it's really hot on those sets. You do not want
Speaker 1: to bundle in a scarf in burbango and it's only ten.
Speaker 3: Degrees yeah, saying it's cold, but it's also one hundred degrees.
Speaker 1: You suggested thrown over the shoulder and hope it doesn't
Speaker 1: get near your neck, and.
Speaker 2: I get look all that. This Gilmore Girls is a
Speaker 2: ten out of ten for me. But I do have
Speaker 2: some port for the other person that did mention on
Speaker 2: Instagram that Alexis is fake eating could use some work.
Speaker 1: I thought I saw she ate she actually ate something.
Speaker 2: I think she did. Okay, and this one their episodes
Speaker 2: are fake eating is like kind of wrap.
Speaker 1: Look, they're not going to scarf food like they're animals, you.
Speaker 2: Know, they're not going to do I saw somebody bite
Speaker 2: into a hot dog on some show the other day
Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Go, but that's a situation.
Speaker 3: The cafeteria food was good acting, but the ice cream
Speaker 3: was like actually so bad, Like it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's so cold and like barely even touched their lips.
Speaker 2: Like my most criticism, and this is not even in
Speaker 2: this episode, is when people do fake coffee drinking because
Speaker 2: like you don't you know, it's so.
Speaker 1: You can tell the compass the cup is empty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they should always I don't understand that either, why
Speaker 1: people don't have the weight. And it was with luggage
Speaker 1: too and film. With luggage, it's always like it looks like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're carrying twenty things a luggage.
Speaker 2: It's not that hard and it's an envelope.
Speaker 1: They're all right, right exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like, so we have sort of this nice scene
Speaker 2: between Marty and Rory and they're making these plans and
Speaker 2: he's a little bit feminine hawing, and you know, we know,
Speaker 2: we know why. I don't know why she doesn't know what.
Speaker 6: I wish she said no.
Speaker 3: I do too, but then we wouldn't be where we are.
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say I wish she said no,
Speaker 5: or if he said yes, he canceled on her before Yeah.
Speaker 1: But she she was full on Rory charmed, full on
Speaker 1: Rory charm offensive on Marty.
Speaker 3: He couldn't say no.
Speaker 2: He he wants to go he wants to hang out
Speaker 2: with her, and that is just so excruciating. I know
Speaker 2: we'll get to it, but like I was anxious in
Speaker 2: the beginning of the episode because I knew he didn't
Speaker 2: have the seventy five dollars.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, we found out he had
Speaker 1: eighteen dollars in his boy, eighteen dollars.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, but anyway, so you know, it's
Speaker 2: the build up with them was necessary to we sort
Speaker 2: of had to resolve their situation. But anyway, so then
Speaker 2: we get to this the cutest thing ever, which is
Speaker 2: the little kid in the diner of Lulu, and it's
Speaker 2: really hello, Lulu, She's got just like this is our
Speaker 2: biggest episode.
Speaker 6: Every a second to realize, like, oh it's Lulu.
Speaker 2: Oh it's teacher Lulu with the kid, and Bradley with
Speaker 2: his poor and hailer and Luke scaring the crap out
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 1: You know, I want that seemde me uncomfortable. I was
Speaker 1: wondering if I was a father at that point in
Speaker 1: my life, would I have been so harsh with that kid? Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a bit much.
Speaker 6: Was it not the direction you were given or was
Speaker 6: that your choice?
Speaker 1: Well, it's like he makes a choice and if they
Speaker 1: want to pull you back, they say, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: come on, you know, pull it back. But that's Luke.
Speaker 1: You know, that's sort of but I don't find that Luke.
Speaker 1: I did not find that part of his demeanor at
Speaker 1: all appealing to a child. I mean, it's just like.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that he probably wouldn't have done that. Now,
Speaker 2: when we see him later interacting with the kids and
Speaker 2: being teaching him about the screwdriver, but also kind of
Speaker 2: mocking them a little bit, that felt more like, it's
Speaker 2: just that we sort of had to have this because
Speaker 2: the way you light up and suddenly everything changes when
Speaker 2: you realize Loralai has signed you up and she's going
Speaker 2: to be there, and you're like okay, and then we
Speaker 2: go I had this, But.
Speaker 1: There's a way to do that without being mean to
Speaker 1: a kid. You know, probably I'm sorry, I'm throwing a
Speaker 1: flag on myself. Yeah that's okay, that's okay, an acting
Speaker 1: police ticket.
Speaker 2: I usually fight you on those, but it's kind of valid.
Speaker 2: You were a little bit mean to this kid. And
Speaker 2: then he's gotten inhaler and he's like.
Speaker 5: You're doubling down as the question Lulu did it.
Speaker 2: Lulu is quite good in these scenes too. She was
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, so all right, so we'll give you
Speaker 2: that one. So that might you could give a small
Speaker 2: deduction for Luke being aggressive a jerk.
Speaker 1: Was he being a jerk? So?
Speaker 2: Okay. So then we go to Loralai and she's with
Speaker 2: Suki I think, in the kitchen the Santa beards, and
Speaker 2: we're sort of realizing, okay, like the boat situation, and
Speaker 2: you know, she's it's just a little bit. Let me
Speaker 2: say she's she's not thrilled with her situ situation, right, No.
Speaker 2: I liked her gray shirt with the sparkles. But yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: I know what I was going to mention to you
Speaker 2: guys here, I sort of really love that Suki is
Speaker 2: so loyal to Laura Lai and she's like, he says,
Speaker 2: you know, she says, don't be mad at him, and
Speaker 2: she says, I don't mind hating him. You guys, give
Speaker 2: your thoughts because I sort of have a thought here.
Speaker 1: I think the Luke Suki tension was supposed to be
Speaker 1: more drawn and drawn out through the series, and it
Speaker 1: never really got drawn out. There was never really any
Speaker 1: Suki Luke episodes that sort of shed light on, you know,
Speaker 1: historically why there was this tension other than you know,
Speaker 1: their rival cooks and it's like, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's she's not really a.
Speaker 1: Cook, you know she.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, Scott. It's sort of like the
Speaker 2: thing that wasn't It was sort of this like glimmer
Speaker 2: of a potential storyline that never came to fruition, but
Speaker 2: we always have sort of this weird inkling of it.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, oh, maybe if I'm digging real
Speaker 2: into the psyche here, she never wanted to be so
Speaker 2: close to him because it would she maybe had a
Speaker 2: premonition of how close they were and she never wanted
Speaker 2: to infringe on that. Or if we got to this point,
Speaker 2: she couldn't be so close to him because she always
Speaker 2: has to be pink, be the pink ribbon. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, I sort of had aha moment.
Speaker 2: I don't mind hating him that what she's really saying
Speaker 2: is I'm always gonna have your backpack. So it was
Speaker 2: very subtle, but I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think maybe it was conceived to be something
Speaker 1: more than it ever got a chance to express. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So then the g pulls out at the
Speaker 2: house up at the house, and I will give one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to anybody right now that knows the license
Speaker 2: plate number of the jeep. Hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: No idea one hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Dollars in bitcoin.
Speaker 1: That's like that's like twenty bucks after taxes, right, No,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: What is it? Is it like something like nine three.
Speaker 2: Seven G five R.
Speaker 1: Well you only know it because you wrote it down.
Speaker 2: Of course I did. Yeah, So okay, so we see that.
Speaker 6: I thought there was like it was gonna oh.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say like just nine seventy. So there's also
Speaker 2: like a lot of symbolism in that garage and we're
Speaker 2: you know, like it's empty. It sort of was a heartache.
Speaker 2: And then she's going to try and transform the garage.
Speaker 1: You know, what was she doing in that garage? What
Speaker 1: was Michelle? What were they trying to do.
Speaker 2: To that make it very girly? It was going to
Speaker 2: be come up, what's the name for a man cave
Speaker 2: for a girl? She shed? She said, yeah, you're right, Lane,
Speaker 2: I guess I guess the alien doesn't need it anymore.
Speaker 2: She should ben the boat got its time there, and
Speaker 2: now it's becoming quite the she shed.
Speaker 3: She's just making it her zen spot. But like I
Speaker 3: did think it was funny when Luke was like, you
Speaker 3: have a whole house to.
Speaker 2: Do, like to yourself, why do you need the shed?
Speaker 3: But I think it's more like the moral of it, right,
Speaker 3: like this was Luke's shed at my house. Now that's gone,
Speaker 3: so let me take myself out of my misery of
Speaker 3: looking at it every day and knowing that it's empty,
Speaker 3: it's not there.
Speaker 2: And trying to own her situation. Although she should just
Speaker 2: go running back to him, which we'll get to because
Speaker 2: there's some of those scenes where I'm like, can you
Speaker 2: just like hold hands or something. But so Luke gets
Speaker 2: to the theater and he's got Bradley and Damon and
Speaker 2: the tools, and one of them definitely has two mommies
Speaker 2: because they made that which was very clear, totally fine,
Speaker 2: and they now know what a Phillips head screwdriver is.
Speaker 5: I think it's so funny, out of all musicals for
Speaker 5: these kids to do.
Speaker 6: It's Fiddler on the Roof.
Speaker 2: That's through all and the fact that Carrie is directing
Speaker 2: it and is so like she pinched your butt at one.
Speaker 1: Point yes, And she did reveal something about Luke that
Speaker 1: was a little risque.
Speaker 2: Wait, did I miss something I think you might have?
Speaker 2: Can you tell me now? Would you like me to
Speaker 2: or should we wait till the end?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. I'll tell you for a
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Fifteen bucks after Texas, she said, because he's
Speaker 1: she was being she was being a little uh forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like and he was holding a hammer. He says,
Speaker 1: I've got a hammer, and she goes, you're darn right. Yes.
Speaker 8: I was like, wow, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2: That they throw once in a blue moon hummons like that,
Speaker 2: and it's super rare. But you're like, wow, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: You know, you know the takeaway from me on this
Speaker 1: whole Fiddler on the Roof thing with Kirk is that,
Speaker 1: you know, it really demonstrated to me that he Kirk
Speaker 1: is so unique in that he really hasn't developed emotionally
Speaker 1: beyond like nine years old, right, you know, because he's
Speaker 1: he was so in his element. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: him fit in anywhere more perfectly?
Speaker 2: Who needs to go potty?
Speaker 1: He gotta go party? And then he comes back and flushed.
Speaker 2: Which is which is serious because you know, I know
Speaker 2: why kids don't like to flush the toilet. Tell the noise.
Speaker 2: They don't like that noise.
Speaker 1: Sometimes public public restrooms there it's like you get sucked
Speaker 1: down in there and you'd never be heard from again.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to say.
Speaker 1: It's like airplane bathroom toilet section.
Speaker 2: Don't tell that. I'm telling this story. But one of
Speaker 2: my nieces, who will remain nameless to protect the guilty
Speaker 2: and the innocent, does not like to flush the toilet.
Speaker 2: And you trust me, you find things you don't want
Speaker 2: to find, right, So they're trying so hard to get
Speaker 2: her to flush the toilet. So they put this cute
Speaker 2: sign like remember to flush Smiley days. And then they
Speaker 2: finally what got her to flush the toilet is they bunce.
Speaker 2: They put a pull up on the toilet and said,
Speaker 2: if you don't flush the toilet, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: start wearing these again. Flush is a toilet every time.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I digress. I also love Lulu's green blazer. Lulu,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this is Lulu's shining time. So, okay,
Speaker 2: we go to the garage and Michelle is okay. So
Speaker 2: we're in the garage and first Michelle is literally on
Speaker 2: the phone being like there was a bam or a
Speaker 2: clang or a thwap or something like. It was so
Speaker 2: batmany that blowey because he's so mad that they're not
Speaker 2: there and he wants to be there. So that was funny.
Speaker 2: Did you gonna see him rolling the computer?
Speaker 4: Yes, in this activity while on the phone, he's he's
Speaker 4: an accomplished theater actor, and they accomplished theater actors find
Speaker 4: those little details to make a scene.
Speaker 1: So it's called living in your space. You really need
Speaker 1: to like do the things that you normal would normally
Speaker 1: do if you had that job and you were living
Speaker 1: in that space. And that was just a small example,
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 2: I'm going to steal that. Living in your space. That's
Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah. So he and and would you say
Speaker 2: he made up the lint roller ring or does someone
Speaker 2: make his choice?
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was his choice. Am I not just
Speaker 1: going to be here standing on it, sitting on a
Speaker 1: phone call, and you know, I do something, be in
Speaker 1: your space, live in your space, you know, make it active,
Speaker 1: make make it you know, have a little busy thing
Speaker 1: to do that you do all the time to make
Speaker 1: it feel real.
Speaker 2: So then we go to Rory, who's setting up the
Speaker 2: room for her movie night. And I think this was
Speaker 2: the big drama she wanted. Doyle, Yeah, Doyle saying she
Speaker 2: doesn't have boundaries because she walked out of them.
Speaker 1: Can I just ask the panel here, what on earth
Speaker 1: was all that? She had posters out, she had pretzels
Speaker 1: from twenty countries? What? What the heck was that?
Speaker 3: That was weird, especially for a boy you don't like.
Speaker 1: Especially for a boy. And she had her legs up
Speaker 1: over him.
Speaker 2: Ye that, yeah, that was It made me so mad.
Speaker 1: What was that? I mean, talk about poor poor Marty.
Speaker 1: He's just probably the service. Look at all this effort
Speaker 1: she goes to with the posters and this and the
Speaker 1: legs thrown over, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, because she wants a best friend and he wants
Speaker 2: a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. Don't do that. You don't do
Speaker 1: that to a guy. I mean, all of those If
Speaker 1: I'm Marty, all of those signals are saying to me,
Speaker 1: make make a move.
Speaker 3: And also vice versa, like let's just say it's a
Speaker 3: guy on a day with Rory and like, has you know,
Speaker 3: his arm around her or whatever, like if he didn't
Speaker 3: have the intent to, like if you know, pursue something
Speaker 3: that's weird.
Speaker 2: I was chill with the pretzels and the posters and
Speaker 2: her dumb wig because she's like, she's trying to make
Speaker 2: up for being so distant from him, and she's trying
Speaker 2: to make this a ten out of ten movie night.
Speaker 2: But the leg thing was weird because I.
Speaker 1: Was just too too familiar.
Speaker 2: It's weird. I almost thought I didn't see it right now.
Speaker 1: It's like brother. That's either brother sister or it's you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're dating.
Speaker 2: His leftovers looked way better than her press. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: cater Yeah, I was like, those pretzels are disgusting. Wait
Speaker 2: before we get to Logan coming to the door, we
Speaker 2: do have the scene here where Michelle is doing the
Speaker 2: stenciling and it's all very pink, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's anything more to say there, but I just
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge that scene. So Logan comes to the door.
Speaker 2: If you were Murty, what would you have done?
Speaker 4: I would have left, totally left.
Speaker 1: You stand your.
Speaker 2: Ground because he knows that, he knows in his heart
Speaker 2: they've got a thing. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't storm out in a huff.
Speaker 2: You want to have stormed out.
Speaker 1: Tails between your legs, and I guess that's wimpy. No,
Speaker 1: you stand your ground, stay there.
Speaker 5: Just it just wasn't fair that Rory is like, oh,
Speaker 5: Logan's here, so we're going to cancel all the plans
Speaker 5: I made for tonight.
Speaker 1: Now he Marty says, hey, you mind, we're trying to
Speaker 1: watch a movie here. She'll call you later, Bye bye.
Speaker 2: No way. Situation in college. So I'm picturing I'm sitting
Speaker 2: there watching a movie with Mike Gridley, who's like my
Speaker 2: platonic friend, and then Dreamboat comes to the door. Gridley
Speaker 2: would be like, no, you go. You know you like him,
Speaker 2: you go. If they really were platonic, the dude would
Speaker 2: have been like, you go, I'm not going, but there's
Speaker 2: no way my friend guy friend would have gone to
Speaker 2: the Chinese food with all you know, no way.
Speaker 3: It was just weird because for me, it's like like
Speaker 3: Logan knew what was happening, and like, I think it
Speaker 3: was his way of being like, I'm going to control
Speaker 3: the situation.
Speaker 1: And show you or did he know what was happening?
Speaker 2: I think you. I think I just think he knows
Speaker 2: he is such a stud and that she likes him,
Speaker 2: and they're kinda. He doesn't. He is not threatened by anything. No,
Speaker 2: and she's his finger and that's why he's like, you come, Marty,
Speaker 2: Because Marty comes, I think.
Speaker 1: Has him a little off balance. And even though he
Speaker 1: doesn't show that, he's not a content hundred percent confidence
Speaker 1: there and the legs are thrown over and the posters
Speaker 1: and there's pretzels and there's like like they're staying in
Speaker 1: for the night.
Speaker 2: Well that's why he came through the window. But we
Speaker 2: can get to that. But my yeah, after after, But
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. You're right, he does. She does
Speaker 2: have him a little off filter, right, So what's he doing.
Speaker 1: At the window because wants to see what's going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right. But Marty didn't need to
Speaker 2: go to the dinner.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that the move was for Rory to
Speaker 1: bat away logan. No, I'm I committed to this and
Speaker 1: now we're watching a movie and he and he is
Speaker 1: not owed an explanation. Yeah, it's just like you just
Speaker 1: sort of show up and knock on my door and
Speaker 1: expect me to us everybody to come running as smary
Speaker 1: as you are the man.
Speaker 3: That's we're in the middle of a movie. But next
Speaker 3: time things, you know what, I'll call you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thanks for stopping buying.
Speaker 2: And that would have been kinder to Marty.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was disrespectful to Marty. I agree for her
Speaker 1: to you know, well, what do you think I mean
Speaker 1: to go?
Speaker 2: You know, it's like but if you were in college, sorry, Ty,
Speaker 2: you go no minute.
Speaker 1: She was so, she was so, I mean posters, this
Speaker 1: the princess whole thing. She was really wants him as
Speaker 1: a friend. That's not how you keep a friend if
Speaker 1: you just sort of use that friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you want a friend.
Speaker 1: To be a friend, she's not being a friend of
Speaker 1: that guy. You know. She and she knows how Marty feels.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's dumb, come on.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is the way it played
Speaker 2: out is the way it would have gone down. Because
Speaker 2: if I was in the sorority in the TV room
Speaker 2: and you're with a friend and the guy comes to
Speaker 2: the door, you both are going like it played out
Speaker 2: kind of how it would have played out, even though
Speaker 2: our you know, thirty something, Yes, you see it different.
Speaker 1: Each of my eyes is thirty something. When are you
Speaker 1: talking about combine him? Total?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean right, this is the Great Debate. They
Speaker 2: all did it wrong. Logan showing up is kind of cool,
Speaker 2: but like she had planned, she should have stuck with
Speaker 2: her plans. If she did decide to go, Marty shouldn't
Speaker 2: have gone. It's almost like a mess.
Speaker 1: I think, I think Mary at that point when when
Speaker 1: Marty sees that Rory wants to go with Logan, that's
Speaker 1: when he sort of he doesn't you know where? I
Speaker 1: think we're back to Tarras. Uh, yeah, you guys go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know a cool move. Boy said, well, you guys
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm gonna stay here and watch a movie.
Speaker 1: You're not important to me anymore, Rory, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch a movie and eat the food.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we skipped over something or you know, we didn't
Speaker 2: discuss it yet, which is how much Marty. When Doyle
Speaker 2: and Paris are having their you know, Paris runs in
Speaker 2: and she's like, I can't stay here, I have to
Speaker 2: get my bag and blah blah, and then Marty says,
Speaker 2: I missed this place like he loves being a part
Speaker 2: of their situation, And I think that's why he's so
Speaker 2: drawn and doesn't and decided to go to the dinner
Speaker 2: because he's like he likes being in their circle, meaning
Speaker 2: Rory in Paris, not Logan.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he has a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: I think he's bored. He studies a lot. He seems
Speaker 1: to be a studious guy, right, he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Have a ton of discretionary like income.
Speaker 1: No, he's got right, so it's like, hey, it's a
Speaker 1: night on the town. What the heck? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think part of him kind of like wants
Speaker 3: to be cool, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And this was in his dinner that you know, the
Speaker 3: Logan invited Rory to, which then invited Marty to, was
Speaker 3: kind of his way of being like, all right, like
Speaker 3: I'll hang out with the Kocites.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: Like I think there was part of him that was
Speaker 3: like into that idea. But then maybe like all the
Speaker 3: signs leading up to it, the legs on the lap,
Speaker 3: the dinner or the movie, all the different types of pretzels,
Speaker 3: like all that kind of stuff like made him maybe
Speaker 3: think like maybe there is something here, so let's hang
Speaker 3: out with the cool kids. But then when he was
Speaker 3: hanging out with the cool kids, he realized, oh, no,
Speaker 3: Rory like likes that I'm still losing.
Speaker 2: You know, so I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't compete with this. Yeah, the international
Speaker 1: boarding school and over this for money. It's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm way out.
Speaker 7: Of my league.
Speaker 2: If there was no Logan, Rory and Marty would be
Speaker 2: a thing. Do we all agree on that there was
Speaker 2: no Logan? Do you think she would be.
Speaker 1: I think too. I think given her experiences with Dean Jess,
Speaker 1: I think she naturally goes. She wants to try a
Speaker 1: Marty who seems stable, and I.
Speaker 5: Actually don't think so, because any other guy who's come
Speaker 5: into the picture, she's picked them over Marty.
Speaker 2: It's been like I come minute.
Speaker 3: I go back and forth too, Tara, Like it doesn't
Speaker 3: scream yes, they'd be together, but like I think they
Speaker 3: would definitely explore it, like they would be hooking, they
Speaker 3: would kiss.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Like for me, it seems like Marty's
Speaker 5: her last resort. Like if she can't find anyone else,
Speaker 5: then she'll go to Marty. But like if someone better
Speaker 5: comes along, she's running to that person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why, that's why Marty needed to not
Speaker 2: go to the dinner.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you know she has seen Marty naked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's.
Speaker 2: True and they're very comfortable with each other. If you
Speaker 2: think back to the episode when they were studying, they
Speaker 2: studied in his bed, remember, and then I think she
Speaker 2: fell asleep if I remember, Yeah, and she's so comfortable
Speaker 2: to fall asleep there and all the things. Okay, so
Speaker 2: we go back to Fiddler on the Roof for a minute,
Speaker 2: And did you guys see that it's Brad from Blee
Speaker 2: playing the piano.
Speaker 3: No, you guys, his name's.
Speaker 2: Brad right, Like, I'm ninety nine percent the piano player
Speaker 2: on Glee. It's his name, Brad. It's definitely the same guy.
Speaker 1: I never saw Glee.
Speaker 2: First of all, you should give it a try. But
Speaker 2: the guy playing piano for a Fiddler on the Roof
Speaker 2: is definitely the same guy as the piano player in Glee.
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure his name is Brat Yep yep, yep, yep. So,
Speaker 2: and how funny when Kirk's like my cart is too perfect,
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, that was a good inside leg kick
Speaker 1: from Luke. If that was somebody's kne it would have
Speaker 1: been destroyed. Actually, I borrowed that note from my grip gripped.
Speaker 2: Her costume does not fit. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Actually, one of my favorite lines was when they were
Speaker 5: talking about the wagon.
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm not that kind of actor. Like he's
Speaker 6: like pretend. He's like, I'm not that kind of actor.
Speaker 2: So then we get the scene we thought we wanted,
Speaker 2: which is Luke and Lorelei together, but it was kind
Speaker 2: of rough. It's like, yeah, you know, yen To tripped
Speaker 2: and like I'm not doing a bit and the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But then it really escalated and went sideways, and I
Speaker 2: wish he would have just said I want you there,
Speaker 2: I miss you, Like they're not telling the truth to
Speaker 2: each other. So then it turned into this big fight
Speaker 2: and I didn't I didn't love that.
Speaker 3: But how messeduff that Lorelai signed to Luke up for
Speaker 3: this and just doesn't even show up, Like she's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: i'll do this stuff from I'll work from home and
Speaker 3: send it in.
Speaker 6: Well no one, no one showed up.
Speaker 2: Creepy Carrie, creepy Carry and Luke. But yeah, that really
Speaker 2: escalated fast, and it just turned into this very upsetting
Speaker 2: fight and like she's in her hole of depression and
Speaker 2: he snuck in and took the boat and just did
Speaker 2: not go how I would have liked for that to go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I really had higher hopes for that scene.
Speaker 3: You can definitely feel his angst and that.
Speaker 2: Scott, how did you feel? And I thought your performance
Speaker 2: was spot on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought it was one of the better scenes
Speaker 1: we've done. I like that scene. I think it was
Speaker 1: a It's one of those scenes where after it's done,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, the purpose of the scene maybe it's
Speaker 1: this could go either way. So it's to increase the
Speaker 1: tension by expressing frustration with each other and a lack
Speaker 1: of communication, a lack of flow. But as the scene
Speaker 1: was over, it's like, you know, you're we're still in
Speaker 1: limbo here with this relationship. Go either way. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I thought it was very well written scene.
Speaker 2: Very Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was. I like that scene a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to hate it, do you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean?
Speaker 2: Like it's a very good scene. It's just so upsetting because.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, but it had all of the
Speaker 1: very realistic beats in it. It was very this show,
Speaker 1: you know, it goes back and forth from you know,
Speaker 1: real gritty, dramatic writing it's so true to life, and
Speaker 1: then sticky humor and then comedy. You know, it does
Speaker 1: it kind of covers all the bases, which just makes
Speaker 1: it compelling to watch. You know, you never know what
Speaker 1: you're getting.
Speaker 5: I definitely like, I I agree with why Luke's upset.
Speaker 5: But the one thing is I will say I kind
Speaker 5: of felt why Loralia was upset, where she's like, you
Speaker 5: don't even tell me you're taking the boat and like
Speaker 5: you just showed up to my house and took it,
Speaker 5: which I know it's like his boat, but I kind
Speaker 5: of did, like, do you guys agree, like maybe like
Speaker 5: he should have told her like he's taking Of.
Speaker 2: Course, yeah, I do think he Like in today's world,
Speaker 2: you would pop a text.
Speaker 1: Does here she went to Christopher's and got drunk. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care anymore.
Speaker 2: But he does because he's still does.
Speaker 1: Care, but he's got he's but he can't care right now.
Speaker 2: Right, But he did come running over when he got
Speaker 2: her message.
Speaker 1: Well that's different. That's like my friend's in trouble.
Speaker 2: And I still would have sent a text. If there
Speaker 2: was text that just said hey, I'm going to come
Speaker 2: get the boat if you want to be there, I understand.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to be he didn't want to then
Speaker 1: he could have.
Speaker 2: Said, hey, I'm going to come get the boat and
Speaker 2: I prefer not to see you.
Speaker 1: No, that's too much of a declaration that were split up.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair, fair, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just feel like he almost stole
Speaker 2: his own boat, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 2: still would tell somebody I'm gonna because he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: broken into the house to get his stuff that's in
Speaker 2: the house, right, he would have said to her, hey,
Speaker 2: can I come get my stuff? Leave the boat in
Speaker 2: the driveway.
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was unintentionally hostile.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, yeah, m.
Speaker 1: He just wanted it out of there. He didn't want
Speaker 1: to go through the rigamarole of having to explain it
Speaker 1: to her or.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it.
Speaker 2: Unintentionally hostile. I think that's exactly very because.
Speaker 6: She felt like it was hostile. But for him, like truly,
Speaker 6: he didn't.
Speaker 2: He just wanted the boat on the boat. But it
Speaker 2: was a little dramatic because he's my thing. I don't
Speaker 2: think he actually wants the boat. I think he wants
Speaker 2: the act. It was taking prove to be like I'm
Speaker 2: going to take my boat.
Speaker 1: I think it's a decision he made he made a decision.
Speaker 2: This relationship is over, no way, no why because he
Speaker 2: is all about finding her at Fiddler on the Roof.
Speaker 2: It's all about like the boat, Like what's that? What
Speaker 2: is the act of taking the boat?
Speaker 1: He just he just wants to be clean of it.
Speaker 1: He just he needs to be clean of it so
Speaker 1: that he can really assess how he really feels. You
Speaker 1: can't make that determination if that boat is still there.
Speaker 1: That's a part of him and their history that she
Speaker 1: is still housing and it's still together, there's still a
Speaker 1: togetherness there. So he wants to make a clean break
Speaker 1: and assess, like he said, over time, maybe months, Let's
Speaker 1: see how this feels without the boat.
Speaker 2: It's a little dramatic for me, like if I was
Speaker 2: like putting myself into it.
Speaker 1: Sure, look at the intensity of the feelings they had
Speaker 1: for each other with terror and this is the big
Speaker 1: love and this could be the one for each of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like and then she pulls that crap.
Speaker 1: He's pissed. He doesn't want to be in this situation.
Speaker 1: Yes he still loves her, Yes he still wants her,
Speaker 1: but he's pissed and he hasn't He's not over it.
Speaker 2: Yet there's more to the boat than it.
Speaker 1: Just give me. I'm taking my boat back and I
Speaker 1: don't care what you think about it, because I'm pissed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, hurt.
Speaker 1: He's hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it isn't The boat symbolizes so much,
Speaker 3: right because it was Luke's dads. Then Luke was like,
Speaker 3: get away with it. Lorlai bought it and kept it
Speaker 3: so for Luke, and then Luke started to fix it up.
Speaker 3: And now he's still taking it back, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like he's prepping it to sail away. He hasn't
Speaker 1: sailed away.
Speaker 2: Right right to me if they were both in better
Speaker 2: places the boat, because what I would have done is
Speaker 2: kept the boat there and been like I'm going to
Speaker 2: leave the boat there for right now in hopes that
Speaker 2: this works out and the boat's going to be my connection.
Speaker 2: But that's not a Luke way. Luke's kind of very
Speaker 2: boat shut, my door, find on my own. I don't
Speaker 2: need this. I don't need to feel connected to her
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Like I said previously, he's he's good on his own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's that's that's his that's who he is. He's a loner.
Speaker 6: He's he's comfortable that way, Yes, he is.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's play through China Palace here.
Speaker 2: So first of all, when he says the car is
Speaker 2: waiting outside and then Marty repeats that line like I
Speaker 2: was waiting outside, Like it's so we all know he's fancy.
Speaker 2: I knew we were in trouble the moment they go
Speaker 2: to dinner with Logan. But yeah, I think the China Palace.
Speaker 2: You know, Juliette doesn't eat, which seems very problematic, and
Speaker 2: they're problematic, very problem and they're talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: they're fancy right like andover and like they don't miss
Speaker 2: their families, which I actually thought was sort of like
Speaker 2: the fact that Marty misses his family makes Marty kind
Speaker 2: of a better dude. Yeah, now Logan has family.
Speaker 3: I also know it's funny, right because like, like Juliette,
Speaker 3: she's talking about not eating, she's talking about her prenup.
Speaker 3: Colin's talking about like his boarding school and how he
Speaker 3: doesn't miss his family. It's like all these like super
Speaker 3: snobby things. Obviously they're like throwing it at us at
Speaker 3: one time because they want to show the duck juxtaposition
Speaker 3: with Marty. But like I kind of like that Marty
Speaker 3: was like, you don't miss your family?
Speaker 2: Like if I were Rory, I'd be like, oh, that
Speaker 2: guy's like me. Marty's like, huh yeah, the bird sweater
Speaker 2: did you know the one dude has the birds? And
Speaker 2: also they were basically at NOBU, which was what I
Speaker 2: was sort of like, they're not they're not out of college.
Speaker 6: Like restaurant there at the campus.
Speaker 2: Did you guys notice the one thing that Logan.
Speaker 3: Was doing putting his arm around her and playing with
Speaker 3: her hair. Yeah, I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Oh I loved it because she she obviously was with
Speaker 2: his boys.
Speaker 3: Again, back to what I was saying earlier, Logan knows
Speaker 3: Marty likes Rory.
Speaker 2: He knows it, and that's why he's peeing on his territory.
Speaker 3: He's peeing on his territory, but he's doing it in
Speaker 3: such like a it's not condescending because he's not mean
Speaker 3: about it, but he's also like, I got this, you know,
Speaker 3: and that's kind of annoying.
Speaker 6: It's like I'm going to get my way at the
Speaker 6: end of the day or.
Speaker 3: Awesome, depends which way you look at it.
Speaker 2: Right to break this time because I'm all about Logan,
Speaker 2: even though I get it.
Speaker 1: He's sort of like, well, here's here's when I think.
Speaker 1: I think Marty was displaying a level of maturity that
Speaker 1: those guys may never achieve in that he was content
Speaker 1: to be the friend. He realized he was in the
Speaker 1: friend zone. Somethings. This is probably going to pull him
Speaker 1: out of the friend zone. He needed to have this
Speaker 1: experience to realize that he was out of his league.
Speaker 1: I think he loses respect for Rory because she so
Speaker 1: wants to be in that world. Apparently so in his eyes,
Speaker 1: she's getting smaller and less appealing. But he's so mature
Speaker 1: that he's his behavior at this dinner is the same
Speaker 1: behavior he will display as a father and a husband
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years from now. I mean, he's already fully
Speaker 1: developed as a man, except that he just has hasn't
Speaker 1: met the right girl yet. And I think I think
Speaker 1: Logan has a tremendous amount to prove to his daddy,
Speaker 1: and he's a bit of a screw up that we
Speaker 1: did get this information that he was in Andover for
Speaker 1: a year. And when you're at Andover, you don't leave.
Speaker 1: You don't want to leave. Some reason he left. He
Speaker 1: was there a year. He maybe got kicked out, so
Speaker 1: there's questions there. So he's a bit of a problem child,
Speaker 1: isn't he. You know, he's like a spoiled rich kid.
Speaker 1: He's extremely charming, he's extremely smart, he's very witty, he's
Speaker 1: an exciting guy. But man, Danielle, you said it right.
Speaker 1: I mean talk about compare and contrastities too. And I
Speaker 1: think that was all insecurity with the hair and the
Speaker 1: whole thing. And it's just like it's kind of disrespectful
Speaker 1: to Rory and to Marty all at the same time.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't care because he's taking you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's acting like he owns her in some way because
Speaker 1: it's not really the appropriate forum in order to display
Speaker 1: that kind of behavior. And maybe I'm being.
Speaker 2: Too No, you're I mean, you're being totally. I feel
Speaker 2: like I hear what you're saying and my reaction is correct.
Speaker 2: But I like him anyway, Yes, it says something about me, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it, Like I think if we were at
Speaker 2: a bird's eye view going who is the better choice?
Speaker 2: It maybe is Marty, but I like Rory am kind
Speaker 2: of into logan and even like when the check comes,
Speaker 2: so let's talk about the check comes and immediately Logan's
Speaker 2: of course going to pay for Rory, which is very
Speaker 2: chivalrous and cute, but it's so what's the word, it's.
Speaker 1: Just so like, well, he asked them both out so.
Speaker 2: Well, and but Logan says he'll cover MARTI.
Speaker 1: Should he interrupted their evening.
Speaker 2: Any was totally on board to pay for Marty doesn't
Speaker 2: want that, which I also understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's look at Logan at one or
Speaker 3: two ways. Either he is, you know, an honorable man
Speaker 3: who like is going to pay for Marty and you know,
Speaker 3: cover the tab and invite him to the dinner. Or
Speaker 3: you can see it as Logan is interrupting their date
Speaker 3: and he is peeing on his territory, like we said,
Speaker 3: and is even peeing on it even more and stabbing
Speaker 3: Marty in the heart by saying, I'll pay for you, dude,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it, like he just.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a small part of him that is a
Speaker 1: little nervous about Marty. But I don't think he's.
Speaker 6: Really I don't think he's nervous.
Speaker 3: I think it's his way of showing Marty like I
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Like I can pay for both our dinners.
Speaker 2: Now the ball or move, which I get why they
Speaker 2: didn't do this because we wouldn't have this awkward scene
Speaker 2: would have been Logan pays the whole check, no check comes,
Speaker 2: so we never have to have this predicament where he
Speaker 2: knows Marty Like, so, if we think about it, this
Speaker 2: is twenty years ago, seventy five dollars a person, or
Speaker 2: seventy five dollars a lot, lot, kind of a lot
Speaker 2: for college kids. Yeah, probably, so it's more like one
Speaker 2: twenty five now maybe one fifty fifty for college.
Speaker 1: Kids back then three hundred now.
Speaker 2: You think three hundred. Okay, so it's a lot, right.
Speaker 2: The baller move is if he just picked up the
Speaker 2: check for the whole group. I don't know. So then
Speaker 2: Marty goes out to get to the ATM, Like what
Speaker 2: was Marty gonna do?
Speaker 5: But I also felt bad of that comment when he
Speaker 5: said I'm gonna go find an ATM, and I can't
Speaker 5: remember the other guy's name, who was just like, oh,
Speaker 5: he needs to go like to an eighty kind of
Speaker 5: like mock on him, yeah, kind of mocked him for eating.
Speaker 1: So this is the thing I think, who is mitcham
Speaker 1: Hunsberger compared to in real worlds? Rupert Murdoch. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's like thirteen newspaper Like, yeah, how how influential is
Speaker 1: mitcham Huntsberger Very okay, So he's you know, he's Ted Turner,
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's Ruber Murdoch, He's.
Speaker 2: Obrah, he's Oprah's on that level.
Speaker 1: So that's his son. So that's that's Lachlan Murdoch or
Speaker 1: that's you know, these people are so wealthy and so
Speaker 1: privileged and so insulated that they look at somebody like
Speaker 1: Marty like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, do they do? They? Because think about it,
Speaker 2: it's just a completely different level they do.
Speaker 6: Because he was bar attending their parties.
Speaker 2: I don't think they look at him as I think
Speaker 2: they well.
Speaker 1: Not as any kind of real challenger.
Speaker 2: No, but I think they would have just paid for him.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of people of privilege, right, So in a
Speaker 2: situation like this, you're at Yale. Right, they're all at Yale,
Speaker 2: so they're all on equal footing. Right, But these guys
Speaker 2: have money, but say so use Rory's money.
Speaker 1: Mitcham Huntsburger is a multi billionaire, correct, so multi billionaire.
Speaker 2: Imagine they want Rory around, right, Logan does and Logan's
Speaker 2: friends dig her. She can't afford to do what they do,
Speaker 2: so they will always pay for her and it will
Speaker 2: never be a thing. And because she's a girl, it's fine.
Speaker 2: The problem is that Marty can't afford it. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what they would do if one of their friends,
Speaker 2: which very possibly could happen, didn't have the money they have.
Speaker 2: But but he's like a bro with them.
Speaker 3: It's interesting you said that because it's a girl. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're covering for Rory like that.
Speaker 2: Ury will never have to worry like Marty did with
Speaker 2: keeping up with these guys because they will always treat her.
Speaker 3: But Rory also had the money.
Speaker 2: Where did she have the you know, she.
Speaker 5: Has seventy five dollars, but she has her grand The
Speaker 5: thing with her is she's still associated with wealth because
Speaker 5: of her grandparents. I think if Rory was let's say,
Speaker 5: the female version of Marty, I actually don't think it
Speaker 5: would be exactly the same.
Speaker 2: I think if we don't.
Speaker 1: Know that Juliet money, well, we don't know Marty's background
Speaker 1: enough to make that assessment. I mean, he's also have
Speaker 1: to figure you.
Speaker 5: Know, no, But but I mean, like Logan's family knows
Speaker 5: Richard and Emily like, you know, like they run in
Speaker 5: the side circle.
Speaker 2: I still think it's girl. It doesn't matter. They're going
Speaker 2: to like the girls. They're gonna like whether those girls
Speaker 2: have money or not, and they're going to just always
Speaker 2: treat them like. We don't know what Juliette's background is,
Speaker 2: and of course she didn't even eat like anything.
Speaker 3: But no, she has money because she says that she
Speaker 3: wants to marry a poor man and have that person
Speaker 3: sign her rock star prenup. So she's got money. We
Speaker 3: know she has money.
Speaker 1: So here's the question. Uh, what does Logan want out
Speaker 1: of Rory? What is he seeing her? I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what he says, don't We don't know what does
Speaker 1: he want? He doesn't want to he confess to her,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be faithful to you. This is
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm not going to commit to you.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be my girlfriend. I'm too young,
Speaker 1: you know, I've got to sew my wild oat. So
Speaker 1: is he ever going to you know what does he doing?
Speaker 1: Is this just pure physical attraction or is it something deep?
Speaker 2: No, it's not just physical. He's very intrigued by her.
Speaker 1: Well, he can keep up. She can keep up with him.
Speaker 1: She's witty, she's got banter, she's educated, Yeah, she's she's
Speaker 1: got a moral center, yeah somewhat. She's a good person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's and she gives him a run for
Speaker 2: his money. There's something about her. She's intrigued by him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not impressed by the money.
Speaker 2: But by him, and he's intrigued.
Speaker 1: By her, right right, Yeah, they're they're still sniffing each
Speaker 1: other out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to say it. But so
Speaker 2: what should Marty have done?
Speaker 1: Just disappear, disappear into a.
Speaker 3: Part I thought, but that's what he was gonna do.
Speaker 3: Like when Rory comes outside and he's just staring at
Speaker 3: the street, all like I don't I'm just going to
Speaker 3: stay here, and then she's like, well when they walk out,
Speaker 3: they'll see you, Like, oh my gosh, I'm like this
Speaker 3: poor guy is so defeated.
Speaker 1: Really, what's a what can Marty do at this point?
Speaker 1: What's a move? What's what's a master class move he
Speaker 1: could do to flip this situation in his.
Speaker 7: Favorite could he do?
Speaker 2: Maybe he could have been.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, let's go to a karaoke bar and then
Speaker 1: he does he does like they could have been.
Speaker 3: Like, no, the ATM machine's not working. Hey, Logan, you
Speaker 3: want to pick this one up? I got the next one, yeah, right.
Speaker 2: He could have just been like, exactly, that's good, Daniel's.
Speaker 6: I was going to bring this up earlier.
Speaker 5: He I mean with eighteen dollars, Like, where did he think, like,
Speaker 5: knowing these eighteen dollars, where did he think they were
Speaker 5: going to go to dinner? When Logan showed up to
Speaker 5: the door, like, I don't know, Like I was saying,
Speaker 5: like if you were in that position, like I've definitely
Speaker 5: like my friends have wanted to go to expensive restaurants.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't want to pay for that dinner,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And I'm like I don't
Speaker 6: want to go. So should he have just said no?
Speaker 2: Because he should have said no to the dinner for
Speaker 2: a thousands being one for.
Speaker 5: A thousand reasons, but specifically that knowing that it was
Speaker 5: going to come down to paying for the bill.
Speaker 3: M I think he was trying to man up and
Speaker 3: like trying to just hang with the cool kids.
Speaker 2: The minute I saw them at the table, I was
Speaker 2: having a stomach ache for that check. How is he
Speaker 2: sitting there eating all the dinner, not thinking how am
Speaker 2: I paying for this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Brutal. Now I will give Rory points that she didn't
Speaker 2: bail Marty and like go to the Zydecoe music. She
Speaker 2: goes home with Marty and they're walking to her room
Speaker 2: and he says, I need to tell you something. And
Speaker 2: I thought the way she handled that was actually very
Speaker 2: mature and very good. Like he tells her he likes her,
Speaker 2: and she tells him. I like, logan, I'm sorry, and
Speaker 2: like I thought that that was very elevated.
Speaker 1: Lower the boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the right thing there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both.
Speaker 1: Did the right Logan is dangerous, Marty is not, and
Speaker 1: that's dangerous. Marty is not correct, He's not dangerous.
Speaker 2: So before we get to the kiss, let's backtrack to
Speaker 2: Fiddler on the Roof. Finally, now we have Loria, Lion
Speaker 2: Luke and the scene together. No words are exchanged, just
Speaker 2: a lot of face acting. And I just wanted them
Speaker 2: to like she's almost crying, Like I just wanted even
Speaker 2: just a pinky touch anything.
Speaker 6: With the song.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the song.
Speaker 5: She says do you love me? And he's like, he says,
Speaker 5: do you love me? And she says, do I love you.
Speaker 5: That's the words of the song.
Speaker 1: It was just too hammy for words. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I just.
Speaker 1: Thought I hammed it up too much, and I thought
Speaker 1: I was too much face acting too hand. No, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't like, No.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I did. I need everybody to sit down, just to
Speaker 1: control themselves. I thought it was hammy. I just I was.
Speaker 1: I was cringing watching it. No on my part, not hers.
Speaker 2: To get that. Did you guys get that? No? I
Speaker 2: didn't have a cringey.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, go do it again. I
Speaker 1: want to do it again, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be so obvious about everything.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: What I can tell you is she looks amazing with
Speaker 2: red on her. But also, no, you weren't cringey at all.
Speaker 1: I thought I was. No.
Speaker 2: I just wanted just please even just a little bit
Speaker 2: more of a look and like a hand hold. All
Speaker 2: I needed was like literally, all I needed was a
Speaker 2: hand brush, you know it was.
Speaker 1: It was hallmarky not to put the on homework. They
Speaker 1: do what they do it, they do it very well,
Speaker 1: and they but they do it with intention and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's schmaltzy or something? Yes, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, I thought what I did in that scene was
Speaker 1: was schmaltzy. That's a good.
Speaker 2: No, I disagree, respectfully. Okay. Then Logan's at the window.
Speaker 2: First of all, why did he come in the window.
Speaker 1: So we can say that line? It looks? It looks,
Speaker 1: It goes a lot better on the movies.
Speaker 3: Why does every go through a window?
Speaker 2: For why?
Speaker 3: Like, just did it? Dean did it's doing it? What's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 1: He acknowledges the cool thing just he didn't do it well,
Speaker 1: he's such a cool character.
Speaker 2: He's so cool. And then he says, I wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure you got home. Okay, I was just like, swoon,
Speaker 2: I wanted to give you a proper good night, like
Speaker 2: I just and then he makes a joke about she's
Speaker 2: not in her foot see pajama, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I love this guy so much.
Speaker 5: It's I think I would have liked that scene more
Speaker 5: if he didn't like ruin their night, ruined the night
Speaker 5: with Marty, Like.
Speaker 2: If that was ruined the night, you can't blame him.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a night. They were eating pretzels watching
Speaker 1: Groucho Man.
Speaker 6: He didn't know, he didn't, you know, but as a viewer.
Speaker 1: You know, listen, this is the moment Rory is. This
Speaker 1: is when we're losing that little girl, Rory, the innocent
Speaker 1: Right now, she's becoming a woman with needs and she
Speaker 1: wants to be in love and it's real growth. It
Speaker 1: was a great shot when those two when he was
Speaker 1: pulling her close to her. It was a very romantic,
Speaker 1: you know, very sexy shot, right, and you don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of that.
Speaker 5: Is it wrong that the whole time I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm just glad he's not married, like the guy's like,
Speaker 5: she's not sleeping with a married man.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 6: The whole time, I was just like, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Know that triggers me for the movies.
Speaker 6: But oh no, because I.
Speaker 1: Was thinking of finally found somebody that was unattached. That's
Speaker 1: what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: I love the kiss. I think obviously we're supposed to
Speaker 2: assume they bomb took a bomb ball, which seemed a
Speaker 2: little soon for me, you know, obviously again.
Speaker 3: But they took off their clothes a freaking anniversary.
Speaker 2: They were already.
Speaker 1: The renewing the vowels man in the basement.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they are in college, so two days.
Speaker 1: We gotta go.
Speaker 2: We got this was a better kiss for me than
Speaker 2: the one of the wedding. Yeah, I was like, this
Speaker 2: is real good, Oh my god, good ending.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely this scene made me miss being young.
Speaker 2: I mean all right, that was He's.
Speaker 1: A cool dude. That was a nice scene. That was
Speaker 1: a really Yeah, it's very it was very filmic, it
Speaker 1: was very Golden age Hollywood.
Speaker 2: It was really, he's a real study.
Speaker 1: It was beautifully filmed and written.
Speaker 6: He's a real It was a good episode.
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite line?
Speaker 1: Is the when he came in the window and he
Speaker 1: said that that usually goes better in the movies.
Speaker 2: Wait before everyone says, there lies that bag of chips though,
Speaker 2: it was the biggest bag of chips that What the
Speaker 2: was that Doyle got from? And they were called like
Speaker 2: snap on or something?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What on earth was going on with the posters? Yeah, inanity.
Speaker 3: You did do that in college though, where you wrote
Speaker 3: your name.
Speaker 2: On all this to do that. Now my bottle of water,
Speaker 2: someone's gonna drink it. Okay, Sorry I interrupted, what's everybody
Speaker 2: else's favorite line?
Speaker 3: I already said mine, but not by Luke. When Lorla
Speaker 3: I was like, I've been done before, and Rory says
Speaker 3: not by Luke.
Speaker 6: I love the bands were with uh Kirk and Luke
Speaker 6: with the wagon.
Speaker 2: I love the factor who has to go potty? What
Speaker 2: do you all rate it?
Speaker 1: What's the measuring stick and what of the what's the
Speaker 1: rating here?
Speaker 5: I'm going to give it nine.
Speaker 6: Bags of chips, large becks, large becks chips.
Speaker 2: I'll give it nine pink stencils on my she shed ball.
Speaker 3: I'll give it nine out of ten pretzels while pretze
Speaker 3: with sabby pretzels.
Speaker 1: God, yeah, I hate I hate the break from the
Speaker 1: pack here, but I'm going to give it a nine
Speaker 1: three five.
Speaker 9: Good Luke hammers, oh good, double on Taundra with them
Speaker 9: all right, so that's going to do her right.
Speaker 1: We're good.
Speaker 2: I just can't believe we're on episode sixteen. Come on
Speaker 2: in five so fast. I actually had a moment the
Speaker 2: other morning where I was like, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, we have to slow it down. Let's take another
Speaker 1: week off.
Speaker 2: I need to slow it, slow it down, slow it down.
Speaker 1: Flying by anyway, all right, ladies, thank you. I missed
Speaker 1: you all.
Speaker 7: It was a rough week.
Speaker 2: Rough it was rough about you. We're back. I hope
Speaker 2: that I hope that they like what we did today.
Speaker 6: Because I thought we did great.
Speaker 1: Thank Chris, that was a good one, all right, everybody,
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