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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 3: Got a lot to discuss with Peter Day.

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Speaker 2: Just quick roadmap.

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Speaker 3: Our friends friends, Julie Kelly and Vivike Ramaswami will be joining.

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Speaker 2: Us today here on the program.

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Speaker 3: We'll have Julie joining to talk about the latest legal

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Speaker 3: wrangling around the DC case against Trump Judge Chuck Kidden.

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Speaker 3: The fix is in. We will discuss the latest with

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Speaker 3: her on that one. Don't forget we are now getting

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Speaker 3: closer and closer to a possible federal criminal felony trial

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Speaker 3: against the currently leading presidential contender for the Republicans. Were

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Speaker 3: also going to have, speaking of presidential contenders, vivike Ramaswami's on.

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Speaker 3: He's got some very interesting things he wants to bring

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Speaker 3: to your attention. He reached out to guys, we got

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Speaker 3: to talk about this. We said, Vivec, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: And so here we are. We've got that to dive

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Speaker 3: into together. Also, Biden tells eight hundred and thirteen thousand

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Speaker 3: more Americans he has wiped their student loan dead.

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Speaker 2: This was an interesting one today.

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Speaker 3: You're just going to see more and more of this.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see the usage of your taxpayer dollars

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Speaker 3: to bribe different constituencies to try to vote Democrat, something

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Speaker 3: we can certainly discuss in greater detail.

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Speaker 2: An interesting twist.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave this one for Clay to set up

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Speaker 3: it a little bit on the I don't even know

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Speaker 3: if we can call it a controversy because it's so

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Speaker 3: stupid and so far from a controversy. But it was

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Speaker 3: a vicious attack on a young boy who dressed as

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Speaker 3: a Kansas City chief at a football game, had black

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Speaker 3: and red paint on his face, and some sheer just

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Speaker 3: unbelievable imbecile said that this was a version of blackface

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Speaker 3: and therefore there should be NFL sanctions of some kind

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Speaker 3: against the family.

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Speaker 2: It was insane.

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Speaker 3: Turns out not only are people all backing up the

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Speaker 3: boy and his family, but also there's a twist in

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Speaker 3: that story. I'm gonna leave that one for Clay, though,

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Speaker 3: because there's it gets better, folks.

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Speaker 2: The good guys are winning and it gets better.

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Speaker 3: But I want to start with this one today, Clay,

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Speaker 3: because tomorrow we'll be diving into this quite a bit,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be I think a moment in

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Speaker 3: time where we maybe take a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: pause from looking at the Republican primary and also talking

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Speaker 3: about Biden's long term prospects and look more at the

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Speaker 3: state by state phenomena that are going on in this

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Speaker 3: country right now. Red Versus Blue Wall Street Journal has

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Speaker 3: this opinion piece up DeSantis versus Newsome a scorecard. Here's

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Speaker 3: a cheat sheet to keep track of Thursday's debate. And

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Speaker 3: you look at this and it breaks down the numbers employment.

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Speaker 3: For example, employment since January twenty nineteen has increased by

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Speaker 3: a million in Florida while declining by eighty five thousand

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Speaker 3: in California. Unemployment despite a shrinking labor force. California's four

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Speaker 3: point eight percent job this rate is the second highest

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Speaker 3: you go down the list, I can't go through all

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Speaker 3: of it right now, except in every metric where everything

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Speaker 3: where you could look at numbers, Yes, Florida beats the

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Speaker 3: the you know, the absolute tail off of California, I

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Speaker 3: mean just absolutely crushes it. Right, And yet people still

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Speaker 3: talk about Gavin Newsom as a likely Democrat presidential contender.

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Speaker 3: Are we at the point now where ideology is so

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Speaker 3: strong in the Blue states that results don't matter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And that's one of the scariest things to me

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Speaker 4: about where we are is a nation. Let me hit

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Speaker 4: you with two more stats here that I think really

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Speaker 5: You live in Florida. Now, Florida has really.

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Speaker 4: Good weather, Buck, wouldn't you expect that there would be

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Speaker 4: massive amounts of homelessness on the streets Miami, Tampa, Orlando,

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Speaker 4: South Florida where the weather is really good. This one

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Speaker 4: seventy one thousand, five hundred and twenty one homeless people

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Speaker 4: in California last year versus twenty five thousand, nine hundred

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Speaker 4: drug use, which makes it harder to force attics on

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Speaker 4: the street into treatment. Now, per capita, Florida has a

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Speaker 4: smaller population than California, but even adjusted per capita, California

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Speaker 4: who are in southern California, there are many great neighborhoods

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Speaker 4: quality of life issue. I would just wonder what is

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Speaker 4: Florida doing Again, I'm comparing South Florida, which has great weather,

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Speaker 4: people taking over streets? That should be something that's studied.

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Speaker 4: I mean you've probably noticed that as someone who lives

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Speaker 4: a substantial numbers that are homeless in Miami.

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Speaker 5: Compare it to La. It's night and day.

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Speaker 3: Well, it all ties in together. The phenomenon of homelessness

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Speaker 3: and urban decay in California is tied directly to if

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Speaker 3: you have to think of these as all interlinked, they

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Speaker 3: have effectively decriminalized. I mean, you can start with San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: cities are a little bit different in how they're approaching

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Speaker 3: decriminalized drug use in public, right, So start with that.

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Speaker 2: So what does that do.

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Speaker 3: Well, now you've got you've got weather where you could

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Speaker 4: Were homeless, right, But if you were homeless, you would think,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to try to get to the place that

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Speaker 4: to death, right, Like that would be if you tried to.

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Speaker 3: Camp outside of the streets of you know, Helena, Montana,

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Speaker 3: for example, It's going to be a really rough January. Right,

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Speaker 3: That's that's not going to work. So you can't do that.

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Speaker 3: But you can do it California, you can do in Florida. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So then what all ties in together. They've decriminalized drug

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Speaker 3: in mind that these are people overwhelmingly when we talk

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Speaker 3: actually has a school for disadvantaged children named after him

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Speaker 3: Many of them are vagrants by choice, meaning that they're

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Speaker 3: people that are effectively choosing to be unhoused so they

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Speaker 3: can do drugs and have drug addictions. That is the

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Speaker 3: and lost their house, right, So then, Clay, they got

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Speaker 2: What do they do? They sell drugs.

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Speaker 3: So now they're selling drugs to people, so they're expanding

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Speaker 3: the population of likely drug addicted homeless in these areas.

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Speaker 3: And then they start stealing. They don't enforce the laws

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Speaker 3: on theft in stores, and so then they steal to

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Speaker 3: all very understandable how this happens. Gavin Newsom, though, is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's really a conundrum.

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Speaker 4: And then I love the evil Keanu Reeves, says Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other one that I flagged. The number one

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Speaker 4: way to determine I think whether things are going well

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Speaker 4: going well, more people want to live there. If things

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Speaker 4: are going poorly, less people want to live there. Between

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Speaker 4: July twenty nineteen and July twenty twenty two, again, this

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Speaker 4: point four four million Californians left for other states. Now, buck,

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Speaker 4: this is an important data point. The population in California

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Speaker 4: went up every year since it became a state in

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Speaker 4: that one hundred and seventy years the population of California

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Speaker 4: only grew. Gavin Newsom becomes governor COVID restrictions, they suddenly

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Speaker 4: lose a million people simultaneously. Florida has gained seven hundred

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Speaker 4: and thirty seven people, and that goes to We've talked

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Speaker 4: a lot about this with New York City. California lost

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Speaker 4: fifty five point seven billion dollars in adjusted gross income

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you obviously have two very ambitious and widely

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Speaker 3: DeSantis is clearly a conservative red governor, and Newsom is

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Speaker 3: And I think it's because COVID showed how much your

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. We just kind of exit.

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Speaker 3: Like as a New Yorker growing up, you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: And then COVID came along and you're like, okay, so

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Speaker 3: this is actually an authoritarian uh you know, insane asylum

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Speaker 3: like this. People running this place are morems and there

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Speaker 3: they're somewhat dangerous actually to your freedom and your property, and.

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Speaker 2: So people move.

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Speaker 3: That happened to a lot of places across the country. Clay,

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Speaker 3: some of the Democrat response to this is all going

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Speaker 3: to be this is the cost you see this with

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Speaker 3: like California's emissions rules and environment you could just we

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Speaker 3: up California's environmentalist regulations and rules are effects dramatically.

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Speaker 2: The price of housing makes it.

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Speaker 3: Way more expensive for people to get housing in California

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Speaker 3: than it would otherwise be because you know, they're you know,

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Speaker 3: they got to do another study on like the delta

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Speaker 2: They don't have those there, but you get what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That would actually be pretty cool if they introduced sloths

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Speaker 4: And that's happening because most state governments have to be balanced,

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Speaker 3: that is true. Then Gavin Newson's gonna be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: So we can't get crime or.

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Speaker 3: Ron.

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Speaker 1: The Torch of Truth past and still lit every day

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Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Welcome Back in

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. This is one that I

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Speaker 4: Now people have come after Ron DeSantis on the left

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Speaker 5: He made Disney.

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Speaker 4: Billions and billions of dollars by allowing them and encouraging

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Speaker 3: So he's forgiven a total of one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: it down. And what do they say, Oh, it's the big,

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Speaker 4: bad republics and the Supreme Court, many of whom were

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Speaker 4: appointed by Donald Trump. That won't allow you to get

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Speaker 4: out of the debt that you yourself created. And ultimately,

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Speaker 4: this is just an abdication of individual responsibility, which is

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Speaker 4: the foundation now of much of the left's ideology, that

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Speaker 4: you are not responsible for your own choices, but instead

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Speaker 4: that there's a collectivist group that should take on your responsibility.

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Speaker 3: And why should people? I mean, let's look at it

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Speaker 3: this way. People are struggling right now if they've bought

447
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Speaker 3: bought houses recently, or bought a home to live in

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Speaker 3: because of the mortgage rate. The mortgage rate is a

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Speaker 3: function entirely of government policy. This is fed decision making,

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Speaker 3: and it's fed decision making in response to overspending that

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Speaker 3: the government did. So you can make a case that

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Speaker 3: people that are getting crushed by mortgage payments right now,

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Speaker 3: who can afford truly half the house value now that.

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Speaker 2: They could of two or three years ago based.

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Speaker 3: On the RACHE on a month to month basis, you know,

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Speaker 3: where's their relief?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you start to say, why are we privileging?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I understand the argument. They say, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: we encourage people to go to college, and then the

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Speaker 3: debt isn't dischargeable, and credit card debt isn't really dischargeable

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Speaker 3: these days either. It's very hard and people are putting

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Speaker 3: on credit cards now, food, clothing, gasoline. So you know,

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Speaker 3: we don't want people running around naked and starving the

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Speaker 3: death in America. So why don't we just wipe away

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Speaker 3: credit card debt.

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Speaker 4: Not only that, the housing situation is I think a

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Speaker 4: ticking time bomb, and not only commercial real estate, which

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Speaker 4: you've heard us talking about, which is also a major issue.

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Speaker 5: But let me just give you a rough approximation. We

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Speaker 5: are selling now fewer homes than we have in decades,

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Speaker 5: and part of that is the mortgage rates being up

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Speaker 5: seven to eight percent, as many of you out there know.

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Speaker 5: But also it is not leading to a decline in prices.

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Speaker 5: We're selling fewer and fewer homes, but prices are continued

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Speaker 5: to tick up. I think they were up three point

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Speaker 5: nine percent on average in the past year. Why is

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Speaker 5: that because the supply of available housing is not where

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Speaker 5: it should be, because so many people are fortunate enough

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Speaker 5: to have low interest rates locked in that they're not

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Speaker 5: putting their houses on the market, and the people who

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Speaker 5: are putting their houses on the market are still getting

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Speaker 5: more money, which means many of you out there that

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Speaker 5: are renting right now are completely and utterly priced out

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Speaker 5: of being able to buy a home because the amount

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Speaker 5: that's required, in combination with continuing to rise housing prices

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Speaker 5: and interest rates, is leading to a devastating economic hit

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Speaker 5: on many people. And buck think about this for a minute.

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Speaker 4: What should happen when mortgage rates go up In a

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Speaker 4: rational and free environment, housing prices would come down because

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Speaker 4: the amount that people have to afford to pay for

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Speaker 4: housing is not growing at the rate that is required

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Speaker 4: with those more mortgage rates and also with the increased

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Speaker 4: in housing prices. But because mortgage rates accelerated so rapidly,

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Speaker 4: many people out there, and a lot of you are

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Speaker 4: listening to me right now, are not going to be

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Speaker 4: putting your house on the market because you can't bear

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Speaker 4: to give up your two and a half or three

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Speaker 4: percent mortgage to take on a seven percent or eight

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Speaker 4: percent mortgage, even if you would like to move because

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Speaker 4: you got new kids and they're starting school and you

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Speaker 4: want to be in a better school district, or maybe

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Speaker 4: you're elderly and your kids have moved out of your

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Speaker 4: home and you don't need the big house anymore that

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Speaker 4: you've got, and you'd like to be able to move,

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Speaker 4: but you're not going to give up that two and

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Speaker 4: a half percent mortgage. I've got a two and a

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Speaker 4: half percent mortgage. I haven't paid it off. I'm afraid

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Speaker 4: I want two and a half percent mortgage. I got

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Speaker 4: a two and a half percent mortgage and rate in

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Speaker 4: my house right now. I would be a madman to

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Speaker 4: pay off that two and a half percent mortgage that

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Speaker 4: I've got when mortgage rates are seven and a half

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Speaker 4: or eight percent, and a lot of you are in

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Speaker 4: a similar position to me, and that is curtailing the

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Speaker 4: overall availability of the in the entire nation.

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Speaker 3: Is in the treasury at like four percent four point

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Speaker 3: five percent right now ten year Treasury notes something like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, four point five I think in the and the

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Speaker 4: current rate is I think five point twenty five to

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Speaker 4: five point five percent in terms of what the Fed

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Speaker 4: Fund rate is. So again, they're probably gonna come down

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Speaker 4: because I think one of the ways that Biden's going

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Speaker 4: to try to juice the economy is they're going to

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Speaker 4: try to bring interest rates down, probably starting in the

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Speaker 4: spring I would bet on a couple of rate cuts

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Speaker 4: before the election, so Biden can argue, we beat inflation

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Speaker 4: and now we're bringing interest rates back down.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But that is where we are, and many of you

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Speaker 4: are now handcuffed by the financial rapidity of the rise.

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Speaker 4: And this doesn't even get into buck I'm seeing this.

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Speaker 4: I've got some commercial real estate investments. There are lots

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Speaker 4: of banks out there that do not want to refinance

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Speaker 4: loans because they have got so much debt on their

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Speaker 4: books that is from an earlier era. They are avoiding

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Speaker 4: and trying to get out of commercial real estate exposure,

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Speaker 4: which is leading to many different properties out there that

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Speaker 4: rely on people to show up. And again, commercial real

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Speaker 4: estate was only fifty percent of people basically or even

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Speaker 4: going into the office. Now we got a ticking time

542
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Speaker 4: bomb going on there that is slowly going to reveal

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Speaker 4: itself as many of these low rates get wiped off

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Speaker 4: the books, and a lot of deals from a real

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Speaker 4: estate perspective don't paper at the rates of mortgage properties

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about right now.

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Speaker 3: Just every decision that the federal government makes in the

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Speaker 3: next year is going to be I mean, the entire

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Speaker 3: machinery of the federal government, including the FED, which I

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Speaker 3: know is independent, sure it is. It's all going to

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Speaker 3: be made to paper over and delay any reckoning of

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Speaker 3: what has been done to the economy and playing the

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Speaker 3: games with rates and the debt and everything else. So

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Speaker 3: just look at it that way, and I think you'll

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Speaker 3: be able to anticipate they will pull every lever they

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Speaker 3: have to confuse people or to mislead people about the

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Speaker 3: true strength of the economy so that Democrats can stay

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Speaker 3: in power. That will be the whole plan.

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Speaker 4: It's right, You're one hundred percent right about that, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of you out there are going to see

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Speaker 5: Buck My good buddy, Mark Cuban.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you paid attention to this story,

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Speaker 4: but it does have a political connection potentially. Mark Cuban

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Speaker 4: owns the Dallas Mavericks. On Monday, he stepped down from

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Speaker 4: his role on Shark Tank. Interesting intriguing perhaps, given that

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Speaker 4: that show has been on for a very long time,

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Speaker 4: and I believe he's been on that show, what do

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Speaker 4: you think a decade or more? Is that fair to

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Speaker 4: probably surmise that that show has been around, He's been

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Speaker 4: on it for.

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Speaker 5: A long time.

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Speaker 4: And so yesterday evening another story came out that Mark

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Speaker 4: Cuban was selling for three and a half billion dollars

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Speaker 4: his Dallas Mavericks team to the Adolson family. Sheldon Adelson,

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Speaker 4: I believe died in the last couple of years. Very

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Speaker 4: successful gambling based company. I think they own is It Stars.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember the names of the casinos. They have

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Speaker 4: a huge footprint in Macau, I believe certainly in Vegas

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Speaker 4: as well, and they are a multi billionaire family, and

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Speaker 4: so the talk is that in selling that franchise, they also,

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Speaker 4: by the way, the Adolsons among the biggest donors to

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump out there, in selling that team to the

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Speaker 4: Adolsons and Buck. This is me with a little bit

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Speaker 4: of expertise on this issue. I think this is probably

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Speaker 4: also connected to sports gambling. Texas does not yet allow

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Speaker 4: sports gambling legally, but there is talk that individual Texas

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Speaker 4: Pro sports teams may be able to get licenses. So,

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Speaker 4: for instance, Jerry Jones with the Dallas Cowboys. I think

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Speaker 4: the Adolson's probably buying the Dallas Mavericks with a connection

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Speaker 4: to sports gambling in the future, potentially in play. That

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Speaker 4: would be my analysis of this. I don't know them personally,

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Speaker 4: but regardless of what the motivations might be for them

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Speaker 4: to buy Buck, there is talk that the reason and

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Speaker 4: Mark Cuban is selling this franchise pocketing billions of dollars

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Speaker 4: is because he is preparing a third party bid to

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Speaker 4: run for president of the United States. So now maybe

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Speaker 4: he would be on the no Labels ticket. The no

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Speaker 4: Labels ticket has raised tens of millions of dollars. They've

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Speaker 4: talked about Joe Manchin, former or soon to be leaving

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Speaker 4: senator from West Virginia. They've talked about Larry Hogan, the

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Speaker 4: former Republican governor from from Maryland. But could Mark Cuban

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Speaker 4: be setting up a Mayor Bloomberg like presidential run and

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Speaker 4: be willing to spend potentially what did Bloomberg spending buck?

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Speaker 4: Was it a billion dollars basically on his presidential run

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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: I mean he just went and paid for everything.

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Speaker 4: Could this be a billionaire running for president move by

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Speaker 4: Mark Cuban with both Trump and Biden trying to run

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Speaker 4: between the two of them by this, what do you

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Speaker 4: think is going on?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's so hard to know in advance here,

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Speaker 3: It's so hard to understand exactly what the plans of

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Speaker 3: a billionaire like Mark Cuban would would be in the situation.

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Speaker 3: I do think that now people increasingly just view running

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Speaker 3: as some kind of opportunity to make their case and

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Speaker 3: to get a lot of attention. So even if you

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Speaker 3: have no realistic shot of becoming president, you throw yourself

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Speaker 3: into the mix so that you know you're able to

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Speaker 3: basically do what you do what you can to make

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Speaker 3: your case. And to get people to focus in on

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Speaker 3: you and to bring your message to the people.

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Speaker 4: I've been arguing for a while that the NBA destroyed

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Speaker 4: its brand in many ways by embracing woke politics, and

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Speaker 4: Mark Cuban has feuded with me about that on social

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Speaker 4: media off and on over the past few years. If

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Speaker 4: you thought the NBA's future was as unlimited as Mark

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Speaker 4: Cuban has tried to argue, it, certainly is an interesting

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Speaker 4: decision to up and sell your team for three and

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Speaker 4: a half billion dollars and also step down from Shark Tank.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 4: The combination of the two makes me wonder if he's

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Speaker 4: planning a third party presidential bid. I don't think he

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Speaker 4: would challenge Joe Biden in certainly the Democrat primary, although

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Speaker 4: who knows that would be even more explosive. I would

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Speaker 4: think certainly he can't run as a Republican at this point.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about this with vivig Ramaswami. What does he

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Speaker 4: think Mark Cuban's doing. I bet they know each other.

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Speaker 4: Not that many billionaires out there. They tend to cross

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Speaker 4: paulinate occasionally.

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Speaker 2: Excellent idea.

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Speaker 3: We'll also have you tee up the story here about

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Speaker 3: what's going on with this kid who was attacked by

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Speaker 3: dead Spin, And it turns out there's even more to

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Speaker 3: the story in the fact that it was completely insane

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Speaker 3: that they went after and we'll talk to you about

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Speaker 3: that coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm playing buff