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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast Back at it again.

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Speaker 1: There was no podcast yesterday because, as you saw on

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Speaker 1: breaking news today some of the stuff that we had

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Speaker 1: talked about, Lamar Jackson trade, Aaron Rodgers, drama. Belichick attended

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Speaker 1: You gotta love this owner's meeting. It's actually not that

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Speaker 1: far away from me at the Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, the Lamar jacks In situation had

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Speaker 1: because like if players could just bounce whenever they want.

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Speaker 1: we'll be fine. See in training camp, basically admitting Rogers

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Speaker 1: clearly told those guys in Los Angeles, like, guys, I'm

428
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Speaker 1: not coming to off these activities. So the situation, it's

429
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Speaker 1: not like Rodgers changing. I'm pro Aaron Rodgers the player.

430
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: When he's good, he is a fantastic player. But there

431
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: is no disputing from a football standpoint, Baggage comes along

432
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: with it, right, So I'm gonna trade whatever, potentially the

433
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Speaker 1: thirteenth overall pick. You're not going to show up in

434
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Speaker 1: OTA's and then by the time you get here, it's

435
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: going to be the most hoop law you know in

436
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: the arguably since like Brett Farr in the history of

437
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: the franchise. And we're gonna have a ton of pressure

438
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: on us. It's gonna be difficult, but it's pretty clear

439
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: the divorce happens, and I just always appreciate when both

440
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: sides just kind of go, you know, zero filter. We

441
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: are done hiding everything. I live for people that are

442
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: authentic non phonies. And I think so often in sports,

443
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: just because you have to, because it's very sensitive, it's

444
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: a very public business, you get such, you know, fraudulent

445
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: press conferences of what coaches say and what they actually believe.

446
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: I think we're starting to get some pretty real the

447
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: sides are coming out. We are getting the authentic version

448
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: of Gudikins, and I would imagine Rogers as mcafe hit

449
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: within the next two weeks, gives his side again. So

450
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Speaker 1: buckle up for this one. Another story that I saw.

451
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a story. The first thing I saw

452
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: was Bill Belichick was in the coaches the coaching picture,

453
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: which is always just awesome. You know. I love seeing

454
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Speaker 1: coach Reid in Hawaiian shirt. Sean McVay looks like he's

455
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: going to a Vegas nightclub. McCarthy looks miserable, you know.

456
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: So a lot of bald guys. Now, Bryan dave Ball

457
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: looks like he's on top of the world, ready to

458
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: fly on top gun. And Belichick was there front center.

459
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the last several years Belichick has

460
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: not gone to this and part of it is like

461
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: an fu to the establishment. The NFL has come after

462
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: his team so many times, and he kind of hates

463
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: the idea of doing anything for the league. But this

464
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: year was different. He was there, and then I saw

465
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Speaker 1: some of Rob Kraft's quotes. The first one was kind

466
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Speaker 1: of funny, but also, you know, the ultimate message was

467
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: damn Meek Mill. You know, the rapper from Philly texted

468
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: Robert Craft because his buddies with the fanatics guy and

469
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: him and Craft or BFFs and that connection. Go get Lamar.

470
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: And Craft's response to Meek was, that's Bill's decision. Then

471
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Speaker 1: he also was quoted while he's talking to the press

472
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Speaker 1: of basically last year was not good enough. And if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, Bill Belichick was the most untouchable

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Speaker 1: coaching sports. His team every single year guaranteed to go

475
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Speaker 1: to the conference championship games, most years go on to

476
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty at nine out of twenty years, basically

477
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time he's in the super Bowl,

478
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: and then you know, seventy percent of the time once

479
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: he's in, he's winning it. So he's making Crafts so

480
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: much money. The Patriots went from this regional brand to

481
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Speaker 1: this national brand. Untouchable. Then he's got a couple of

482
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: years it's starting to get ugly. Had one of the

483
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: most embarrassing hires we've ever seen last year to make

484
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Joe Judge and Matt Patricia his offensive brain power was

485
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: It was insanity when it was announced. It was even

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: crazier as we watched it play out throughout the season.

487
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest arrogant moves we've ever seen

488
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: from a talented person. Like honestly, it's it's almost hard

489
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: to explain how crazy it is. Now. Sometimes great in

490
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: any industry, the older they get, they do, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: kind of bizarre things. But even for Bill, who clearly

492
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Speaker 1: I think mentally is all still there, pretty bizarre. I

493
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: mean pretty could have cost him his job. And I

494
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: think the way when you kind of read some of

495
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Speaker 1: Kraft's comments, like listen, this is my fucking team. I'm

496
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: tired of watching you do these bizarre things that are

497
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: not working anymore. It was one thing when we were

498
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: in trouble, we had the league coming after us. Everyone

499
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: hated us. We were rattling off thirteen wins again ear

500
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Speaker 1: we had Brady and we were at minimum in the

501
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Those days are long gone. Now we are

502
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: lucky to get the seven seed and when we did

503
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs one time in the last three years,

504
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: we gave up like seven hundred points of the bills

505
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: and got absolutely curb stopped. And is there a chance?

506
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: I kind of thought this last year, but I think

507
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: you feel it with his comments and then you watch

508
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Bill's actions kind of for the first time. I'm kind

509
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: of a good company man, you see with Sean Payton.

510
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Sean Payton somewhat like Belichick. Remember he was suspended for

511
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: a season. Also, like Bill little against the machine that

512
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: is the league office, and this event, the owners meetings

513
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: is kind of like capitulating everything the league wants. Sean

514
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: Payton used to skip this photo as well. John Payton's there, Well,

515
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: what is Sean Payton, new employee seventeen million dollars a year,

516
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: trying to be a good company man, not trying to

517
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: ruffle any feathers. Different situation, like he's not worried about

518
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: his job, but just trying to do right by the boss.

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00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: What's funny about the coach's picture. I bet if we

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Speaker 1: broke it down, if we truly knew how much everyone

521
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: made the medium, you know, the average salary would probably

522
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: be over nine million dollars. These people are super rich,

523
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: enormous egos rightfully, so they've earned it. You start making nine, ten, eleven,

524
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars in your job, your ego is gonna

525
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: be pretty big because if someone's willing to pay you that,

526
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: you're probably pretty good at your job, or at least

527
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: you think you're pretty good at your job. And I

528
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: just think that Belichick knows man clock might be ticking.

529
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: This is a pretty big year, and my margin for

530
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: error of pissing my owner off has shrunk dramatically. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna kind of follow the rules a little bit.

532
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Like if there's a coach's photo, I'm not gonna be

533
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: at the pool with cougar Linda slamming in my tie

534
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: at the Biltmore, I'm gonna be sitting there with Andy

535
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Reid and Ron Rivera with you know, a half smile

536
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: on my face and pretend that I like to do it.

537
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: So maybe we're seeing a new Patriot, you know, kind

538
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: of way with Belichick because last year, you have another

539
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: year like last year, he'll never get quote unquote fired.

540
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing that. But Belichick and

541
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots have mutual you know, going our mutual separation

542
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: written all over him. If this thing stays ugly and

543
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: honestly with mac Jones, it's gonna be an uphill battle.

544
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: I think we can officially call the Trey Lance trade

545
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: a disaster. Anytime that you go from twelve to three,

546
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: trade two other first round picks, and heading into year three,

547
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: your general manager says at the owner's meeting, and listen,

548
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with him, because this is the thing

549
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: to say. Brock Purty is the starting quarterback if healthy.

550
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: But if Brock Purty is a starting quarterback, that means

551
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is a backup. They traded three first round picks,

552
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: which it's really more like two and a half because

553
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: you you go from twelve to three, like you get

554
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: a first round pick that year. But they haven't had

555
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: a first round pick the last two years because of

556
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: this guy, and they gave him the job last year.

557
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: He obviously got hurt in the second game. Now he's

558
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: no longer the starting quarterback. So this trade did not move.

559
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: And I have had a lot of people DM me,

560
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, over the last couple months, because we talk

561
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: a lot about the draft. These bold trade ups are

562
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: very hit or miss. Most times they do not work out.

563
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: And my theory has always been, if you're an NFL

564
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: draft pick in general, there's a ton of pressure on you. Right,

565
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: They're just this. If you're a fourth round pick, it's hard.

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00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: You're not guaranteed a roster spot. You know, you got

567
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: to earn your keep. If you're a second round pick,

568
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: people think you're good. You're kind of expected to be

569
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: a starter relatively earlier in your career. There's nothing like

570
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room of a first round pick

571
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: in general. I've been going to NFL training camps for

572
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: a decade, and the first thing you do if you

573
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: go to one of those, you know, kind of mandatory

574
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: OTA practices or early on in training camp, where's the

575
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: first round pick? What does he look like? And the

576
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: higher that pick is. I remember going to Raiders practice

577
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: with Khalil Mack. You just you gravitate right to him.

578
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: Remember when the forty nine ers drafted Nick Bosa. Gravitate

579
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: right to him. When it's the quarterback, it's just it's

580
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: hard to really describe because you just it's so easy

581
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: to see what he does every single play. Then when

582
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: you factor in, I trade a shitload for you, like

583
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: I trade all my draft picks for you. There is

584
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: a pressure on that individual and just on that draft

585
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: pick in general, that no other player in your team has. Seriously,

586
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: I've been to these practics. You feel it. It's tangible

587
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: when it's going well when it's not going well. So

588
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: it just hasn't gone well. Now. The forty nine Ers

589
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: have been very, very lucky. They are the one team

590
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: over these last couple of years that have had turmoil

591
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Right even last year Jimmy's in his last

592
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: year of his contract, gets banged up. This year, trade

593
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: to Jimmy to Purdy, and they've gone to back to

594
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: back conference championship games. The overwhelming majority of teams. If

595
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: they had made this mistake, it would have cost everyone

596
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: their job and it'd be a disaster, I e. The Jets.

597
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: Why are the Jets? You know dug In They have

598
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: no plan be on Aaron Rodgers. They don't have a choice.

599
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers are lucky that the roster is

600
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: so situated and because of their offensive coordinator who is

601
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: their head coach, that if I just get solid quarterback play,

602
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: my team is good enough we can win and we

603
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: can win a lot of games. Right, So the Niner

604
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: might be the rare team that have an all time draftness,

605
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: and that's what this is. I mean, he's not the

606
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: starting quarterback heading into year three, and my take is,

607
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's good enough to beat out

608
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. If I was a betting man right now,

609
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is better than then, And the way Sam

610
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Donald played at the end of the season, like Trey

611
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Lance definitely isn't better than that, So it could be

612
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: an all time mistake. The forty nine ers are very,

613
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: very lucky's the wrong word, because they've developed this team,

614
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: like they've drafted and signed all these players. They've done

615
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: a good enough job around you know, outside the quarterback,

616
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: which is a quarterback league. You get the quarterback, right,

617
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: you get your Burrow, you get Mahomes, you get you

618
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: get Herbert, you get Trevor Lawrence. Like you're gonna win.

619
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: You're going to win every single year. Some years are

620
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna better than others. But your floor is so high,

621
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Orty and I has avoid a disaster potentially because of that.

622
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: A couple of things on the bills Sean McDermott, you know,

623
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier. I don't know, is it officially a hiatus

624
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: taking the year off. Did he get fired? But Sean

625
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: mcdermot's gonna be the play caller, And to me, one

626
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: of the values the reason you pay a head coach

627
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: so much like I don't need you to call place, right,

628
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Like I didn't love last year when Brian Dayball got

629
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: the job and he didn't call place. But you know what,

630
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: it turns out he's clearly very hands on in the offense.

631
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: And he hired Mike Kafka, who is going to be

632
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: a head coach. But at any single moment of any

633
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: single game, and I'm sure this happened, Brian Dable can

634
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: call a play, he can call a series. He has

635
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: an area of expertise. I don't love it when I

636
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: got a head coach who I don't think has an

637
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: area of expertise. Right's why the gang and higher with

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Is he a good defensive coordinator? Like I

639
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: don't see it. So even if the guy, I don't

640
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Speaker 1: know if he's calling the defense or not, I just

641
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's that good of a defensive coordinator. But

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Speaker 1: part of having Sean McDermott, even if he has one

643
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Speaker 1: of his buddies, Leslie Fraser, calling the defense the moment

644
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Speaker 1: that guy disappears. If Sean has to, he can easily

645
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: take over the defense. Why he's proven to be a

646
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: really good defensive coordinator. So sometimes these coordinators get the job,

647
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Speaker 1: especially if they are a coordinator from a team that

648
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: where they're not calling plays. I think it can be

649
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Speaker 1: really risky or just a coordinator who's you know, resume

650
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: isn't that great when you are a very very good schemer,

651
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: It just it gives you a lot more room for error.

652
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: The other thing is Sean mcdermottle recently said, is like

653
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Speaker 1: we need to find a way to have Josh Allen

654
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Speaker 1: take less hits. He's just getting peppered too much. And

655
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: it is true you watch the Bills play, the dude

656
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Speaker 1: takes a lot of hits. But it always like when

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes like in a zoo, you know, like

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Speaker 1: when a lion or a tiger or a grizzly bear

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Speaker 1: or something like attacks the zookeeper. It happened. You remember

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Speaker 1: those uh, I forget the name of them. They were

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Speaker 1: in Vegas. I think the tiger killed one of the guys. Like, ultimately, guys,

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Speaker 1: we'll deal with a wild animal, Like if the tiger

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Speaker 1: bites you at any moment, even if your quote unquote

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Speaker 1: attempted to domesticate it over the years. I'm not blaming

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Speaker 1: the tiger, right. Sometimes these wild animals attack like you

666
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Speaker 1: own snakes that bites you. It ain't the snake's fault.

667
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: No one's ever got bitten by a shark outside of

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Speaker 1: the ocean, right. So part of what makes Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: special is him running around like It's one of his

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00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: points of differentiation. He can make incredible throws. He physically

671
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: is a special talent as a passer, right, but he

672
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: can be a little hit or miss accurately with accuracy

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: right when he's rolling. He's kind of a rhythm guy.

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Speaker 1: He could look really accurate, but we saw last year

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Speaker 1: he could get a little off. The one thing he

676
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: could always hang his hat on. At any single moment,

677
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: he could turn into Cam Newton. He could run over guys,

678
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: he could run by guys, he could run around guys.

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Speaker 1: His running is one of his great attributes. Now, big picture,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to play for fifteen, sixteen, eighteen years playing

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Speaker 1: like that, right. It just is part of like Mahomes

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00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: or Burrow, who have both been banged up before in

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Speaker 1: the pocket. They don't depend on their legs. Herbert even

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00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence like they're gonna depend One of the things

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Speaker 1: that's hard with Josh Allen is he's really more like

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton. It's like one of his areas of dominance

687
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Speaker 1: is he as an elite runner. He's not fast. I mean,

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00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: he is fast, but he's not like Lamar Jackson, Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray fast. He's not gonna break too many fifty yard runs.

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Speaker 1: But at any single moment, he could have a twenty

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Speaker 1: yard run where he stiff arms a guy and just breaks.

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Speaker 1: You know, it could be third and fifteen he takes off.

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Speaker 1: He can easily get it. I think it's a really

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Speaker 1: hard balance to kind of, you know, to strike. I

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Speaker 1: remember going to the Combine three years ago after the

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Speaker 1: forty nine has win the Super Bowl. I talked to Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: There was a group of you know, all the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers media, and I kind of stood there and

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00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: watched them talk. And after we kind of walked away,

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00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: and they were about to sign George Kittle, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things they had been talking about was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we got to find a way because George's

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00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: reckless is the wrong words, he's fearless, but it's hard.

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00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: He saw it with Gronkowski. It's hard, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: easier for Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey if he can, you know,

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Speaker 1: his back or whatever, just the wear and tear of body.

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Speaker 1: But he's not taking these hilacious hits. And he's not

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Speaker 1: giving these hilacious hits. Part of what Kittle and before him,

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00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: Grounke did, they would inflict pain on others and because

710
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: of their style, they would take if they missed with

711
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 1: their shoulder pads, they get taken out at the knees.

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00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: They just take. I mean, it's crazy the blows they take.

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Speaker 1: And once you pay a guy like that, like part

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Speaker 1: of paying him, he's like, I need you on the field,

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Speaker 1: and it's hard to stay on the field when you're

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Speaker 1: getting hit. A lot part of what they bring to

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Speaker 1: the table, and I see it with Kindle is like

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00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: sets the tone with his physicality. He catches over the middle.

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Speaker 1: He's not always looking to like get out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: He sees a dB and he's not looking to go

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Speaker 1: around him. He's looking to go through him. And I

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Speaker 1: just it's hard to coach that out of him. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: in my experience of just watching the game, you know,

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Speaker 1: to pay the bills now, very very seriously for a decade,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you really can. I think he kind

726
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Speaker 1: of got it or you don't. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I always thought Frank Gore played football for so long

728
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Speaker 1: is because when you watched him play for a big

729
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Speaker 1: physical I guess he wasn't at tall, but he was built.

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Speaker 1: He was just he was very sturdy. He didn't take

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Speaker 1: that many hits. He was very I would just say,

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Speaker 1: how could I even put it. He was very careful

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Speaker 1: about taking an extra pounding on the majority of his carries,

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Speaker 1: and he would go out of bounds. You know, Marshawn

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Speaker 1: Lynch played very, very physical once he really got wrong

736
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Speaker 1: with Seattle, and then even when he joined the Raiders,

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00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: people forget about that, but he looked for collisions. Adrian

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00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Peterson as well, who's kind of a physical outlier. Where

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00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I think Ezekiel Elliotts a good example of like that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how he played. He didn't avoid. And when

741
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: you don't avoid, like those hits bay add up and

742
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: then they multiply, like exponentially. So you go from a

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Speaker 1: guy who looks pretty spry within a year, it feels

744
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: like you're done. And I just think it's gonna be

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00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: hard for Josh. It's gonna be physically hard for him

746
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Speaker 1: to play a long time if he doesn't change and whenever,

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Speaker 1: like as he gets old, you saw with Roethlisberger just

748
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Speaker 1: kind of ended, you know. But I do think in

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Speaker 1: the prime of his career, if you're gonna win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you're probably gonna need Josh Allen playing like

751
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen we've seen in terms of his physicality

752
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: and a runner. So I think that's gonna be a

753
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: very tough balance to strike and honestly, probably impossible. Two

754
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: quotes I saw it from the NFC East today. One

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00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: I love and I mean it's just, you know, obvious,

756
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: and the other one that just makes you shake your head.

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00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: Howry Roseman said today their top priority is getting Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts under contract, and one thing that's going to be

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Speaker 1: very fascinating. He saw it with the Chiefs, like the

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00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: Eagles had a pretty high priced team this year, right,

761
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Speaker 1: and because even if they signed Jalen to a massive deal,

762
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Speaker 1: he cooked the books. His big number on his contract

763
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: will be later, so they will have to build around that,

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Speaker 1: you know, in terms of being more financially prudent, more

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Speaker 1: like twenty five twenty six because they were still able

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Speaker 1: to resign some of their older players. But it's gonna

767
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: be very, very fascinating to see the number and guaranteed

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Speaker 1: cash he gets. If I was Lamar Jackson, unless someone

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Speaker 1: blew me out of the water, I would be very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I would try to wait, I try to see what

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts gets. Now the game Jalen Hurts played in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I'll be honest enough, Lamar Jackson has

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Speaker 1: in the bag. But Lamar's success over a longer period

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Speaker 1: of time is definitely more than Jalen. So if Jalen

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Speaker 1: gets one hundred and sixty five guaranteed, like you know,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of the starting point for Lamar even to

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Speaker 1: pick up your phone call. But it'll be fascinating over

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Speaker 1: the years. How the Eagles, and this is why they

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00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: always draft lineman, right, Like when people go, who do

780
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Speaker 1: you think the Eagles are gonna draft with the tenth

781
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: overall pick? Probably a right tackle. So in a year

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Speaker 1: or two, you know, as they have injuries and Lane

783
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: who knows, could retire, they'll just be able to slot

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Speaker 1: in a high price position for cheap right. They're gonna

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00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: do it with Jason Kelsey when he retires. They do

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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: it with their guards. They're always looking ahead at a

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. So when Fletcher and Brandon Graham are not

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Speaker 1: on the team, you know, in twenty twenty four, they

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Speaker 1: have the guy ready to go. You saw it this

790
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: year with they did with Jordan Davis, you know. So

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: I think it's you're always trying to think big picture,

792
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: but you really have to do it once you start

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Speaker 1: paying a quarterback forty five million dollars a year, which

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Jalen gets. And then a comment that

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Speaker 1: kind of speaks to the why the Giants handled the

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00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: contract situation with Daniel Jones and sa Kwan Barkley like

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00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: they did, because I think we all agree, even if

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Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan who likes Daniel Jones, that contract

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00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: was pretty crazy based on what he'd done, like based

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Speaker 1: on his resume, contract was I mean insanity. Let's be real.

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Speaker 1: John Mara said that he wants to make Sakewan Barkley

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Speaker 1: a Giant for life, and I get, you know, being

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Speaker 1: positive with your players, and Sa Kuan is a good

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00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: guy and he represents your team and it's just kind

805
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: of you know, coach owners speak, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: kind of serious. So when they franchise, and this is

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Speaker 1: what I said about, why wouldn't you just franchise Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and then let's sake one hit the market and

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Speaker 1: then who's gonna offer him a big contract? And he

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Speaker 1: and if they did, what was that Denver gonna be

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Speaker 1: twenty five thirty million dollars? Remember when Levion held out

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00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: for the year and next year he basically got like

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00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: offered a two year contract. You gotta get no money.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know who they were bidding against. And

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Speaker 1: then you say comments like this, I think, Sake Juan,

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Speaker 1: if you told me he gets you know, four years,

817
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Speaker 1: fifty million already guaranteed, like it won't shock me at all.

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Speaker 1: It's why it's hard to judge Shane and Brian day

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Speaker 1: Ball with these contracts, because I think the owners medal

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Speaker 1: in this situation. When the giants really like a guy,

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Speaker 1: the owners aren't gonna let him go. Yeah, the owners

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Speaker 1: always really like Daniel Jones and they clearly love Sake

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Speaker 1: Juan Barkley, and I get loving Sake Juan Barkley. His

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Speaker 1: talent is immense, even though he's not a great pass blocker,

825
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: though I think he improved a little bit this year.

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Speaker 1: I would just be very hesitant to, you know, to

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Speaker 1: extend a running back. But you read comments like this,

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Speaker 1: you know the owners they love their guys sake. Juan

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Speaker 1: Barkley bit by Week one SAT one Barkley as a

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Speaker 1: contract extension. Okay, mail back time add John Middlecoff fire

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Speaker 1: in those DMS question answered here on this little podcast

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Speaker 1: week all three and out. I consider myself a realistic

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00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans from Daniel and was wondering what you could

834
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Speaker 1: do as an arm chair owner coach GM to finally

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Speaker 1: get the Cowboys back to the NFC Championship game or

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Also, on a business note, can you

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Speaker 1: briefly describe your stock investment strategy? Do you use an

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Speaker 1: app by yourself or a professional consultant? Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: From a stock standpoint, I just use I bank with

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Speaker 1: Wells Fargo, so not a regional bank guy, one of

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00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: those big four guys. A banked with Wells Fargo for

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00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: a long time and just through my there, I just

843
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: have a brokerage account, so you know, I get, I

844
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: can just transfer money from a checking account right into

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Speaker 1: my broke account. And my strategy on individual stocks is

846
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I invest in things I use right, like I've invested

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Speaker 1: over the years and things like Netflix, Spotify, Hell, Welsh

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Speaker 1: Fargo once upon a time, not not recently, but like,

849
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: I'll make bold plays based on the way things are happening.

850
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I recently bought about forty five thousand dollars of Snapchat,

851
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: and not that I use Snapchat, I don't. I'm basically

852
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: just doing an all in play that TikTok gets banned,

853
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: and if TikTok gets banned, maybe I can double the money.

854
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's I'll do bold plays like that. Now.

855
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like that's a large chunk of money

856
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: just on one stock. It's a bold play. And maybe,

857
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, when I buy a house, it pays for

858
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: a remodel. I don't know, could also backfire, you know, TikTok.

859
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty bipartisan. Actually watch some of

860
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: the CEO, who's just an idiot, and then of course

861
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: everyone's just on board, like this thing's fucked, And then

862
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: of course AOC comes out, She's like, we gotta keep

863
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: TikTok alive. It's like, yeah, she's been bought and paid for,

864
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: so I you know, these are things that make you

865
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: nervous when you make political plays on stocks, on things

866
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: getting like you know, banned or canceled or whatever because

867
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts and it's all out of

868
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: my control. But that's that's a good example. And then

869
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: I do big picture ones like you know, ev stuff

870
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: and stuff for the long haul. Uh ETFs. I mean

871
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: I actually did arc Cathy Wood. So we'll see what

872
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: she's got in the bag because I've a that's a

873
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: long term play though she owns like Zillo and Tesla.

874
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I'm not reading annual reports now.

875
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: On the Cowboy thing, I think you guys are pretty close.

876
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean, your defense last year was super Bowl worthy.

877
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: That defense beat, I mean, was every bit as good

878
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: as the forty nine ers in that game. The problem

879
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: wasn't that game Dak Prescott through two picks. If Dak

880
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: Prescott can play well, I don't need the wild card

881
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: game where he threw whatever against the Bucks, probably the

882
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: best game of his career. Do you throw five touchdowns?

883
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: It was four? For sure. It was fucking awesome. I

884
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: just need him to not throw two picks in a

885
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: second round game, and one thing that would be nice

886
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: for you guys, you know especially, I think when we

887
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: look at the Big three and I do I put

888
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: the tier. I think the Eagles got a little worse

889
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys. I think Gaxa got a little bit better.

890
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: They had a Brandon Cooks, but I guess they lost

891
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: their tight end. So you got to get the Eagles

892
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: the slight nod because their quarterback, in theory, is better

893
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: if he plays like last year. It's like win your

894
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: division because if you win your division, you're you're playing

895
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: home games. Now. I guess you had a home game

896
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: because you won your division two years ago and you

897
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: lost the forty nine ers. You just need the quarterback

898
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: to play well in the last two years against the

899
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. He simply is not because the other

900
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: guys on your team. I mean, last year would have

901
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: been hard once Paul, because Paul got hurt. He shattered

902
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: his ankle. He's obviously one of your better you know,

903
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: him and Seed were most explosive offensive players. But I

904
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: think you're defens good man. I mean, Michael Parsons to

905
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: me as defensive player, written all over him. Next year,

906
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: you know you have another good draft. It looks like

907
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: the young guy you drafted last year in the first

908
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: round the offensive lineman turned out to be pretty good,

909
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: so he should be even better. I'd be bullish on

910
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, big fan, I know you don't like hypotheticals,

911
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: but what if the Jets are having talks in their

912
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: building about acquiring Lamar Jackson. What if the idea of

913
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Aaron retiring is too much for the Jets to give

914
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: up all those picks. Well, I think I saw Gudakins

915
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: who blasted Rogers Joe Douglas. I didn't see the video.

916
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: I watched the video of Gudakins. I didn't see the

917
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: video of Douglas. But if you're listening to this, I'm

918
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: sure you've seen the headlines. I'm pretty sure Joe Douglas

919
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: said we don't have a plan B. So that's what

920
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: makes this Rogers think so bizarre. He's going to the Jets.

921
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: He's going to be traded. Both teams admit it's it's

922
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: over for the Packers and we're in for the Jets.

923
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: It just hasn't officially happened. Maybe when he ultimately gets traded.

924
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: We talk about this week when Joe Douglas and Gudakins,

925
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're having a couple of cord cores, a

926
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: lot cold cores, lights and some wings, you know, at

927
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: ten o'clock at night in one of the suites, hammering

928
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: the details out. Maybe this is the week actually that

929
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: the deal gets done because you get them. It's crazy

930
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: how much easier it is to do deals when you're

931
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: in person, right, It's so easy to be passive, aggressive

932
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: or act tough over email or even on a phone

933
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: call or text. It's another thing if you're just two

934
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: adults who probably know and respect each other, are just

935
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: having a conversation, you know, in a hotel suite with

936
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: a couple of cocktails, which you know I'm recording this,

937
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, in the well in the afternoon, six thirty,

938
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: No big deal, not tap myself on the back, just

939
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: working late for you guys, and they could be a

940
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of cocktails deep hammering out some details. The Vikings

941
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: front office recently turned down hometown discount extension for Kirk Cousins.

942
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: He is on his final year of a rework deal

943
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: and it looks like the new gm Quessey I know

944
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Quessey is gonna move on from him after the season.

945
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: There also have been some rumors that we are a

946
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: wild card to land Lamar Jackson, but I think that

947
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: is too good to be true. What would the Vikings

948
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: What would you do in the Vikings position? Trade up

949
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: for twenty three Hendon Hooker? Wait until next year's draft.

950
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I forget the name, but the quarterback you guys drafted,

951
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: I think he was from Texas A and M. This

952
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: was like the last like three years, and Zimmer talks

953
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: so much shit about him. It was hilarious. But that

954
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Kirk Cousins. I would play

955
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: the season now with Kirk Cousins and just see what happens.

956
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, last year you won whatever thirteen games. I

957
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: don't think it's inconceivable that you know, you win double

958
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: digit games again. You're gonna be You're right there to

959
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: win that division, especially if Rogers gets traded you and

960
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: the Lions. I guess the Lions could have technically beat

961
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: you twice. But I would just roll it out. You know,

962
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if Lamar Jackson you guys have cap

963
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: issues to begin with. I would just the problem with

964
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is you're gonna be making the playoffs. Isn't

965
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I mean, you guys have made the playoffs.

966
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, like what, He's been there six years, four

967
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: of the six years. If he makes it this year,

968
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: I think it's been pretty pretty good. You know. I

969
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: think we talked sometimes about Kirk Cousins. I don't necessarily

970
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not the biggest Kirk Cousins guy, but

971
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: I never act like he's some scrub. You do a

972
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: good job building the team, which I would say they

973
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: have for the most part. When Cousins has been there,

974
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the playoffs. Now, what would Cousins

975
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: want as a free agent. I don't know. I think

976
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: it's a complicated situation. My short term solution play this

977
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: season out. I would play this season now with Kirk Cousins.

978
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: In hell, maybe I win a couple of playoff games

979
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: and I give him like a two year, seventy million

980
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: dollar extension guarantee the every penny or something like that. Okay,

981
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: never miss a show, keep up the good work. I

982
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: have a quick issue with Lamar jackson situation and a question. First,

983
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: I like Lamar, but the way he has handled this

984
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: contract situation is starting to make him look stupid, and

985
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: nobody wants a stupid quarterback. Second, the media seems to

986
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: be ignoring analytics when they fawn over Lamar as if

987
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: he was a sure first ballot Hall of Famer. For instance,

988
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: they say it's a no brainer he should be paid

989
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: way more than Daniel Jones. In reality, is it possible

990
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: that Lamar simply had one great year as an outlier?

991
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Ignoring that one great year, his average quarterback rating is ninety,

992
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: which is somewhere between the twenty twenty two numbers for

993
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke and Daniel Jones. Can you remember any other

994
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: situation where a guy had absolutely stellar year but it

995
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 1: proved to be an anomaly. Well, yeah, one name comes

996
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: to mind, Cam Newton. Cam Newton's MVP season is abnormal

997
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: for the rest of his career. Now, it took Cam

998
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: Newton a little longer to get there, and I would

999
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: say he did it a little different than Lamar because

1000
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Lamar was faster, Cam was more physical. I would say

1001
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Lamar or Cam was much more of an explosive passer

1002
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: down the field throwing bombs. But when you look at it,

1003
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of an outlier, So that would be

1004
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: my example. Could that be the case with Lamar? Now?

1005
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: The difference is like the Panthers were always going to

1006
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: keep and they did. Cam Newton for the majority of

1007
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: his prime, right his entire prime, he played for the

1008
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and it worked. You know, they were always

1009
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: he made them very relevant. They played in big time games.

1010
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: He took him to the playoffs several times, obviously the

1011
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: one year when they won the conference, and it was

1012
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: worth it for him. Now, the differences is like they

1013
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: were able to figure out contract situations. I'm pretty sure

1014
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton at an agent and they could just do

1015
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: business together. In this situation, it feels like it got

1016
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: pretty ugly pretty fast. So I think there are some

1017
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: similarities with Lamar and Cam Newton in terms of the

1018
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: up and down nature. Cam got banged up sometimes, but

1019
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: it pretty clear Cam was easy for them to do

1020
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: business with. And maybe I'm forgetting some stuff. If Panther

1021
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: fans are listening, well, John, you forget in twenty fourteen,

1022
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: they got it done and this thing got pretty ugly

1023
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: pretty fast. Love listening to every draft and free agency

1024
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: season what teams are most likely to trade up? Also

1025
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: a question about my team. What are the odds the

1026
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: Eagles are taking Bijean Robinson. I do think we will

1027
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: see a team or two trade up in this draft.

1028
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I think we could see a team trade up to

1029
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: get the second or third quarterback. And I do think

1030
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: if Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle, were to slide now,

1031
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: he easily could not like Seattle could take him, Detroit

1032
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: could take him if he falls out of like, you know,

1033
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: the top three or four picks. So he might not

1034
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: slide out of the top ten. But to me, he

1035
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: feels like the type guy if he slides a little

1036
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: out of the top ten that gets a good team

1037
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: to trade up to get him. The one thing I

1038
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: would say about the Eagles is when I think about

1039
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: some of their successful running backs with the franchise, Shady McCoy,

1040
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, probably the best running back and the most

1041
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: recent uh you know, remember when they traded or they

1042
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: didn't trade, they signed They signed DeMarco Murray that didn't

1043
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: go well, but they signed kind of I wouldn't say

1044
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: off the scrap heap, but Ryan Matthews, who turned out

1045
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: to be very very productive for the Eagles for a

1046
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: couple of years, Duce Daley, Brian Westbrook. Historically in their organization,

1047
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: like some of their best running backs have not been

1048
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: high picks. Now, I was thinking about this the other

1049
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: day because if the Eagles with pick ten, like I

1050
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: got news for you, the Eagles with pick ten are

1051
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: taking alignment, you know they're going to take I mean,

1052
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: they take a pass rusher. I could see them taking

1053
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: if a sweet offensive tackles there, You're like, well, they

1054
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: already got offensive tackles. They're always preparing for the future

1055
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: and those positions are impossible to get. And how he's

1056
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna go. We're never gonna be drafting this high for

1057
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: a while. So if the top offensive tackles on the

1058
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: board at ten, like find the Eagles, I take them right,

1059
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Or the best pass rushers there, I would take them,

1060
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: And that's usually what they do because they value the

1061
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: value chart of quarterbacks alignman. That's you know, I can

1062
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: find wide receivers and other positions other parts in the draft.

1063
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: So I think it's very unlikely because they would have

1064
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: to take him at ten. Right, He's not going to

1065
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: be there whenever they pick at whatever pick that is

1066
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: thirty or thirty one, he's not. So the question is

1067
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: do you take him at ten? And I can't see

1068
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: them taking him now. If I put Bijean Robinson on

1069
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: their team, They're fucking sweet. What they might tell you

1070
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: is like, we'll use our second round pick on a

1071
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: running back, which I could see them doing, or their

1072
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: second day pick, which is probably more likely than taking

1073
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson that high, which again I would say ninety

1074
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: five percent they do not take Bejean Robinson, and seventy

1075
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: five percent of that ninety five percent they take alignment there,

1076
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: which can be boring but pay dividends big picture. I

1077
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: really appreciate your point of view on all things. I've

1078
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: been a long time Packer fan, and my question for

1079
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: you is, why do you think Green Bay is dragging

1080
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: their heels on the Jets trade? They seem to be

1081
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: done with Rodgers and they seem to be ready to

1082
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: move on. Also, if they don't have the trade Rogers,

1083
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: do you think that they eat his contract and move

1084
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: on with love Regardless, Rogers is not going to be

1085
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: on their team like it's over. You know, I think

1086
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: they're digging their heels because why wouldn't they, like if

1087
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: you're them, even if you're done with Rogers and Rogers says,

1088
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: like he could retire in any day, You're gonna try

1089
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: to get the most for him. Possibly, right if you're

1090
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: moving out of your house, and you'd know, you know,

1091
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you'd take a million dollars, right,

1092
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: But you're like, you know what, I don't have to

1093
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: leave right away. I can sit on this for a while.

1094
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: My payments because my interest rates so low are pretty small.

1095
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't have to move for another six months. I'm

1096
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: gonna stick to this one two five number. And you

1097
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: know what, if push comes to shove and the only

1098
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: offer I get is a million, I'm taking that. But

1099
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit on this for a while. So maybe

1100
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: they're sitting on this. We want your first and second

1101
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: round pick, we want your first and second round pick,

1102
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: and they're like, we will give you our two second

1103
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: round picks. And they're going back and forth, and maybe

1104
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: they know eventually they'd be cool with like just give

1105
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: us thirteen, shake hands and done deal. Or maybe they know,

1106
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: you know what, give us your two second round picks

1107
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: and a conditional pick next year. Whatever the number is.

1108
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I would be pretty adamant on that number.

1109
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Thirteen overall pick, that would be the pick I'd want

1110
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: to have. But as I'm sitting here on March twenty seven,

1111
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: OTAs the draft far away, I want pick thirteen and

1112
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: I want your second round pick. Now. Ultimately I'm cool

1113
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: with like, just give me thirteen and like your fifth,

1114
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: which probably ends up happening. That would be my guess.

1115
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: But time's on their side for both teams, Like there's

1116
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: no rush, there's no practices. We basically know through Robert

1117
00:58:53,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: Sala that that Rogers is not going to be at OTAs,

1118
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: So time's on their side. Question for the pod about

1119
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: the NFLPA, we hear they want Lamar and others to

1120
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: get huge and fully guaranteed deals. Makes sense for Lamar himself,

1121
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: But in a fixed cap league where all teams are

1122
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: spending around two hundred and thirty million per year, why

1123
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: does the NFLPA care if Lamar is making fifty or

1124
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: if he's making forty and another guy's getting ten. The

1125
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: teams are spending all of the annual money and all

1126
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: the players are repped by the union. Seems to me

1127
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: that if Lamar or anyone breaks the bank, it's only

1128
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna mean other guys are gonna get cut out of

1129
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: lower salaries and wouldn't be pissed off if their union

1130
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: is supporting and helping Lamar or whoever make that happen

1131
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: and guaranteed money doesn't change it. It's just two hundred million,

1132
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: and that's committed to one guy, but doesn't really change

1133
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: the overall cap a team is spending. Am I crazy?

1134
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I thought about this the other day because I think

1135
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear like, oh, this owner wants to pocket

1136
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: the cash. Look at how much as teams worth doesn't

1137
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: want to spend it. Look around the league. All this

1138
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: is not baseball. Where the Cincinnati Reds. I saw the

1139
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds Ken Griffey Jr. Who hasn't played and god

1140
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: knows how long it is like the fourth highest paid

1141
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: guy on the twenty twenty three Reds the Oakland A's

1142
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: payroll is like twenty million dollars in baseball. That's an

1143
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: argument in football, like I don't know how many teams

1144
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: last year, we're not within five percent of the salary

1145
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: cap max. You spend it all every single year. Why

1146
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: because every team has the money because of the media

1147
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: rights deal. So whenever you hear an argument from a

1148
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: media guy, oh, these greedy owners don't want to spend

1149
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: it fits bullshit. It's just not true. Like you said,

1150
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: it's just how do I allocate my resources. I'd rather

1151
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: spend it on this guy, this guy, this guy. Like

1152
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers are an example. They have Trey

1153
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: Lance who makes like eight Brock Purdy makes like eight

1154
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: hundred grand, and Sam Donald makes like three million dollars.

1155
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: So their total amount of money on the quarterback is like,

1156
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: let's just say twelve million dollars where I bet, you know,

1157
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: basically go after Lamar Jackson. They can't afford it. No,

1158
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: They're spending all their money on all these other players,

1159
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: like most teams, the Cowboys, the Seattle, the Eagles, Like,

1160
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: you're spending all these money on all these players. It's

1161
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: just it's just the puzzle. So I'm with you. The

1162
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: thing is, the reality is I've never been in the union,

1163
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: but in any situation, there's a hierarchy. It's why I

1164
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: follow the PGA tour closely. Golow be out on Wednesday,

1165
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: fire that at Golo pod Roy, McElroy, Tiger Woods, you know,

1166
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: and John Romp speak for everyone else when they talk.

1167
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: It's all that matters. When the quarterbacks talk in these negotiations.

1168
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: Remember when Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are like, let's

1169
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: get rid of ots. Well, yeah, they don't matter to you,

1170
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: but to the majority of the workforce, I don't know,

1171
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: they're kind of important. Now, that was a case that

1172
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: no one listened to. Aaron Rodgers is because he wanted

1173
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: to scrap OTAs. Because part of the reason brock Purty

1174
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: happens is last year OTAs he earns respect, gives himself

1175
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: a chance going into training camp. So I hear you it.

1176
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: Ultimately it doesn't matter. And I love Richard Sherman, but

1177
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: he said on his podcast, you know that these quarterbacks

1178
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: not getting these guaranteed deals has screwed it up for

1179
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: everyone else. Not really, because when you're a quarterback and

1180
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: you get a four or five year contract, how many

1181
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks do not play out their entire contract.

1182
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Jared Goff remember like three years ago, it's like, this

1183
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: contract sucks, He's awful. He's got to be out of

1184
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: the league. He's literally going into the last year of

1185
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: his contract. This season. Derek Carr, who has been one

1186
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: of the most polarizing quarterbacks of all time, played out

1187
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: his entire one hundred and forty million dollar contract that

1188
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: he got like six years ago from Reggie McKenzie. The

1189
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 1: whole thing up and down. Even Carson Wentz and at

1190
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: Ryan who got cut this year, played out, you know,

1191
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: four or five of their six year deals. So as quarterbacks,

1192
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: unlike these position players like Bobby Wagner gets a multi

1193
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: year deal cut after one year. A lot of contracts

1194
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: are fake with quarterbacks are not because even if you're

1195
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: a cheap quarterback, I signed you to ninety one hundred

1196
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars guaranteed. That guarantees because of the

1197
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: way I have to build you on my salary cap

1198
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 1: on the team for a while. So if Lamar signed

1199
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 1: a four year contract, let's pick a number, four years,

1200
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollars. Let's just make it easy,

1201
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year. Let's see I guaranteed one

1202
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollars of that contract. I would

1203
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: say the likelihood he's guaranteed to be on the team

1204
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: three of the four years, and it'd have to be

1205
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: like a catastrophic injury or character stuff going off, going

1206
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: a wall for him not to make it four years,

1207
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: Like Dak Prescott four years, one sixty, he's gonna play everything.

1208
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: How they're talking about giving a contract extension, Kirk Cousins

1209
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: immediate contract extension. Quarterbacks play out contracts for so much longer.

1210
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: And I hear you, like these teams spend all this money.

1211
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Think about the teams that quote unquote don't have the cash.

1212
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: The Raiders, the Bengals, some of the you know, the

1213
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: lower budget and their owners aren't as rich. They're look

1214
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: look at their salary cap every single year. It's not

1215
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: like they're like, well, the Caps two ten and they're

1216
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: spending one twenty. It's never the case. It's always like,

1217
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: how the Bengals gotta clear some salary cap space. Raiders

1218
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: are up against it. You know, I think sometimes some

1219
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: of these narratives that are run with because it is

1220
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: easy to just call the rich guy greedy, but which

1221
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: happens sometimes, And I've even defend like the A's owner, Now,

1222
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: should he own the team, maybe not, but his business

1223
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: makes no money, so he just spends the money that

1224
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: his business has. It's like, why doesn't he come out

1225
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: of his own pocket? Because it wouldn't work in the NFL.

1226
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to come out of the owner's Pocket's

1227
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: why I laugh when John Lynch today was like, you know,

1228
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: we asked Jed Yorke if we could sign Hardgrave, and

1229
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: He's like, go get them guys. We act like it's

1230
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: Jed York's personal fucking account. It's just the forty nine ers.

1231
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: There are a business entity, which obviously he owns. But

1232
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: the money you pay the players, it's not like Jed

1233
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: uses that money for a Paris vacation. You know, probably

1234
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: puts himself on salary. His whole life's through business expenses,

1235
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, if he needs money, they are a

1236
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 1: profit endeavors part of the organization that he could touch.

1237
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: But like the money you pay the players is the

1238
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: media money from the league. It's paid for every single year.

1239
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: So regardless how much I'm with you, whether Lamar gets

1240
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten guaranteed or two hundred, he's gonna

1241
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: see the majority of the fake part of the contract

1242
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: as well. Appreciate everyone listening, audios, have a good week.

1243
01:05:40,080 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: To see you. The volume