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Speaker 1: A Really Good Cry. Today, I am sharing an episode

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Speaker 1: I personally think that, and I think there's one one

441
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Speaker 1: part to it is we'll never know because we've all

442
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Speaker 1: had pain. And I do think that sometimes you need

443
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 1: every single in life there is a duality. There's not

444
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Speaker 1: one thing that isn't whether it's like every single opulence

445
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,640
Speaker 1: that exists in the world where it's fame, money, beauty,

446
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 1: there is always the opposite effect to it too, So

447
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,719
Speaker 1: you can have success, but you can still be upset,

448
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 1: like there is nothing that exists that doesn't have a

449
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 1: negative or what we see as a negative reaction to it.

450
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Speaker 1: And I honestly think that's how I personally think that's

451
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Speaker 1: how the world works. It's like you would not know

452
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Speaker 1: joy if you haven't felt pain, and I do think

453
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Speaker 1: that that's true. I don't necessarily think everybody has to

454
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Speaker 1: have gone through the most traumatic experience to get to

455
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Speaker 1: a place where they have a voice. I think these

456
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 1: days sometimes that's the case where you think, I remember

457
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 1: going on a panel and all these people that had

458
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 1: so much that had happened to them, whether it's in

459
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: their childhood or throughout their life, and I was sitting

460
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,719
Speaker 1: there and I was like, I can't just make up

461
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Speaker 1: that I've been through really traumatic times. But there are

462
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Speaker 1: also lots of people who haven't been through extreme times,

463
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Speaker 1: and so you can relate to those people. I don't

464
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Speaker 1: have to be someone who's gone through you know, I

465
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Speaker 1: had quite a nice childhood upbringing, like my parents were wonderful.

466
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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that I still can't connect to people

467
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Speaker 1: on a level of pain, because I can have empathy

468
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Speaker 1: for them, and so I do think that there's a

469
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Speaker 1: level of appreciation that comes, unfortunately, only once you've been

470
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Speaker 1: through something bad.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's how our human minds are wired.

472
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Speaker 1: If we were all wired from a young age to

473
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Speaker 1: just feel gratitude, then we won't even think of pain

474
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Speaker 1: as being pain. We think of it as this is

475
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Speaker 1: just part of the journey. This is like something that's

476
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Speaker 1: necessary to take me to another place. But none of

477
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Speaker 1: us really feel like that all the time, and so

478
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Speaker 1: some unfortunately.

479
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Speaker 2: I think the human mind is created.

480
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Speaker 1: In a way that, yeah, maybe you do need to

481
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Speaker 1: realize what's negative to appreciate what's positive.

482
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think the same way. I think that

483
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Speaker 3: everything exists on kind of like a pendulum. Right, Yeah,

484
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: it's swings specter back and forth. But then don't you

485
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: think then it's also down to your capacity and your

486
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Speaker 3: level of consciousness to kind of determine whether an event

487
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Speaker 3: is good or bad. And it's because most events, if

488
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Speaker 3: you think about it, are kind of neutral.

489
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Speaker 1: I do think it's that, But I also so you know,

490
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Speaker 1: the deeper I've gotten into my spiritual practices, or the

491
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Speaker 1: more I listen to people who have been in the

492
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Speaker 1: spiritual practice for far longer than I have, I really

493
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Speaker 1: just think it's a rewiring of your brain of it's

494
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Speaker 1: not whether it's good or bad. It's seeing it as

495
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Speaker 1: I surrender to whatever it is. And so it's not

496
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Speaker 1: that this is good and this is bad for me.

497
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Speaker 1: It's that whatever is meant for me I surrendered to.

498
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Speaker 1: I will try my best in any way possible to

499
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Speaker 1: create a specific outcome.

500
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, good or bad,

501
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: Like who knows? Have you had that story? The good

502
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: or bad? Who knows? Yea?

503
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: And I just the farmer, And I really I remember

504
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 1: that story every time I'm like, oh my gosh, why

505
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: did this happen to me? Or this is so horrible?

506
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Speaker 1: How is this happening, like even my grandma being on

507
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: well right now, I was like, how is this happening?

508
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: Like this shouldn't be happening. That's the first thoughts that

509
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: come to your mind. And then I'm like, oh my gosh,

510
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Speaker 1: now I get to spend all this time with her

511
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: that I would have never been able to spend that

512
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Speaker 1: right because I'm prioritizing being around her.

513
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Speaker 2: So yes, the first thought is this is a bad thing.

514
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Speaker 1: If I tell someone my grandma's got cancer, They're going

515
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Speaker 1: to be like, oh my gosh, that's awful. And yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: that's how I felt the beginning. But now I'm like,

517
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how great is the world and how

518
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: great is God? That I get noticed and I get

519
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: time to actually spend with that person. And so I

520
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Speaker 1: think it's the idea of surrender because I think most

521
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Speaker 1: of us like to control our outcomes and saying good

522
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Speaker 1: or bad, I don't know, but I know the world

523
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Speaker 1: and the universe and God is going to do what's

524
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Speaker 1: best for me. But also realizing that from bad can

525
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: come good and from good can come bad.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I was literally about to say that. So,

527
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: like every it's like a paradox, right, every positive experience

528
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: that you chase kind of turns into a negative one

529
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Speaker 3: because you're reminded of the things that you don't have exactly,

530
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Speaker 3: But then every negative experience turns into a positive one

531
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Speaker 3: eventually they both can't see. So it's that like, and

532
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Speaker 3: I think.

533
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Speaker 1: That's a choice, Like you think about something negative happens.

534
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Speaker 1: One person could turn to addiction and another person could

535
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Speaker 1: turn to grow.

536
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Speaker 2: How does that choice get made?

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I saw something recently that said, like, the

538
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: best indicator to tell you that you're on this part

539
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: of growth and your like consciousness is rising, is that

540
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Speaker 3: you understand it's all a choice. Like, every single thing

541
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: is a choice, and that's something.

542
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Speaker 2: You have to really exercise, isn't it.

543
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Speaker 1: I think about even when you when if I've got

544
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Speaker 1: jealous or envious of someone, or if the first thing

545
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: that comes into my mind is a negative thought, how.

546
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Speaker 2: Do you change that?

547
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's either you let that thought be or you

548
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Speaker 1: try and follow up with a correcting thought.

549
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Speaker 2: And so is that Okay?

550
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Speaker 1: I may if I came in here and I was like,

551
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Speaker 1: oh not that I thought this the same.

552
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: When a million did this. Oh my god, he's so rude.

553
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Speaker 1: It's me creating with like, Okay, how can I make

554
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Speaker 1: this thought more empathetic? Or maybe he did this because

555
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Speaker 1: this isn't this right?

556
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Speaker 3: Right?

557
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Speaker 1: So I think there is the ability to rewire, maybe

558
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Speaker 1: not for the initial thought, but definitely for the secondary thought.

559
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I call that, like I have a process around

560
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: that called like multi dimensional thinking. So you don't think

561
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Speaker 3: about it in one level, yeah, trying think about the

562
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: second and third order consequences of like that thought and

563
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: whatever else can stem from it, right, Yeah, how has

564
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: your definition of nourishment changed like throughout the years? And

565
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: that can be like spiritual nourishment, it could be actual

566
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Speaker 3: like physical nourishmen.

567
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Speaker 1: I used to link nourishment a lot to you know,

568
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Speaker 1: when you think nourishmen. I used to think of it

569
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Speaker 1: as just being physical body related, but I realized how

570
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Speaker 1: much each of them are so intertwined. And so I've

571
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Speaker 1: noticed for me even when my this is kind of

572
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Speaker 1: done by.

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Speaker 4: The way, all right, yeah.

574
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Speaker 2: That's actually quick, that's right.

575
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Speaker 3: It looks exactly there saying that's crazy, does it?

576
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Speaker 2: I made this in a while, honestly. Yeah.

577
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Speaker 1: I used to see nourishment is such a physical body

578
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: thing that like when you nourish your body.

579
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: Everything else is kind of taken care of.

580
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Speaker 1: And that's like the main thing, because I think at

581
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Speaker 1: that time that was where my whole focus in my

582
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: life was physical body.

583
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Speaker 2: And then I just realized how much.

584
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Speaker 1: A synergy there has to be between all three aspects

585
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Speaker 1: of like emotional, physical, and spiritual. And for me, I

586
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: find that as soon as my spiritual nourishment depletes, it

587
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: really impacts every other part, not impacts directly, like it

588
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that my physical body doesn't feel good. It

589
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: reduces my desire to do things that are good for

590
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Speaker 1: my physical body. So when I'm in a lower consciousness

591
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: or a lower like spiritual vibration, I then won't care

592
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Speaker 1: as much about what I'm eating. I won't want to

593
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Speaker 1: nourish my body in a way that I think of

594
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Speaker 1: it as an instrument of God's grace or as an

595
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Speaker 1: instrument of doing good things in my life. And so

596
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Speaker 1: it may not be like, oh, I feel pain in

597
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: my body because I'm not doing this spiritual thing. It

598
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: actually just changes the way that I receive life, and

599
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Speaker 1: therefore don't treat my body in the way that I should,

600
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: don't have conversations that I should be having, like I

601
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: may gossip with you instead of having these visual conversations.

602
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: And in the same way, when I.

603
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Speaker 1: Don't eat right, what you eat literally can change the

604
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: way that your mood is, your energy levels are, which

605
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: means then if I'm not eating right, if I don't

606
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: have the physical energy to actually go for a workout

607
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: or want to run, or want to go out and

608
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: about and socialize with people, then that impacts my emotional

609
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: health and so all of those things. I just think

610
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: there's so much, so many wires that overlap with each one. Yeah,

611
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: that you have, and look, there may be times in

612
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: your life where you're like, I really can't prioritize my

613
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: physical body right now because I'm hustling. Yeah, and I

614
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: maybe have time to do a fifteen minute walk, but

615
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: that's still something. And I think there doesn't have to

616
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: be an equal balance at all times. I think you

617
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: can really be I'm doing this much for my physical body,

618
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: this much for my mentor, and this much for my

619
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: emotional but just know what the repercussions are of that

620
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: and how you can maybe balance it out in six

621
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Speaker 1: months time or in seven months time.

622
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. I think when I had

623
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Speaker 3: my episode with the Starhole Bloom. He said the same thing.

624
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 3: He said that it exists things exist on a dimmer

625
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: switch rather than like I take that. Yeah, yeah, so like, yeah,

626
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: maybe this season, when you're hustling, you turn down the

627
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: dimmert switch of your physical body, right, like training or something, right.

628
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

629
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. On the idea of balance as well, I'm curious

630
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: about what you think, right, because I personally believe that

631
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 3: balance doesn't exist like in the early stages anyway, there

632
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 3: has to be an imbalance to later then create balance.

633
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

634
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: Have you found the same thing with like work and

635
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: life and everything in general? Balance in what you mean

636
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: in balancing all areas of your life. So if you

637
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: want to have a social life, you want to have

638
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: a good career, you want to have your physical health

639
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: and mental health and whatever else, it is.

640
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: Equal balance in all of that. Yeah, I don't think so.

641
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Because a lot, yeah, a lot of people strive for balance, Like, yeah,

642
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: they want balance, that's what they're optimizing for. But I

643
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: think that's a trade there's a big trade off. Like

644
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: if you want to actually achieve, I think.

645
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: It depends what your goal is at the time.

646
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: So like there can be a balance, but that balance

647
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: is proportionate to what your goal is. So if your

648
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: goal is to build a business, if a goal is

649
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: to build a million dollar business this year, yeah, you

650
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: probably aren't going to see your friends Saturday and sund Friday,

651
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. I know, you probably can't go out

652
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: and drink on a Friday nighty night, and during the

653
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: weekdays you're probably gonna have to be non existent to them.

654
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: And so if that's your dream, then that balance is

655
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: right for that dream. But like, if your dream is

656
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: I want to create a family and I actually want

657
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: to find a partner, then you should be going out

658
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Speaker 1: on like the balance will be I'm going out on

659
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Speaker 1: dates and I'm socializing as much as I possibly can

660
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: to find my partner, and I'm doing all the right

661
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: things for my health to be able to have a baby.

662
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: And so then the balance is right for that goal.

663
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: And so no, I don't think there's like an equal

664
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Speaker 1: balance of anything. I think it's what is the balance

665
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: that's right for the goal I'm trying to achieve. Well,

666
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: theyan like let's just have balance, But like what does

667
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: that mean, Because by the way, for me having an

668
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: equal balance of everything, I don't think I would actually.

669
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: Thrive in that environment.

670
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: So it's what balance are you thriving And it's like

671
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: an iravader like nothing is the same for each person,

672
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: whether it's what you're eating, whether it's your bodily constitution,

673
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: and so in the same way, balance for each person

674
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: has to be an individual decision and an individual formula.

675
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: So's identifying like what season you're in basically as well. Yeah, yeah,

676
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: that's powerful. We're on the note of balance, but more

677
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: so actually going back to the energy that you create

678
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: for the three part of yourself, the mind, body, spirit.

679
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: Your book is good joyful obviously, but and when you

680
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: said you said it in your book when you cook,

681
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: the energy or the intention that you're cooking with goes

682
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: into the food. But what about the times when you're

683
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: not really feeling that, how do you kind of narroge that, well, you're.

684
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: Not feeling like being nice joyful?

685
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it has to be that you're

686
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: feeling outwardly joyful at all moments in time.

687
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: I think it's really difficult to feel that way constantly

688
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: for anyone.

689
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: And I think joy is a fleeting emotion, but I

690
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: think contentment is something that you can actually feel at

691
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: all times, even when things are turbulent, and there's like

692
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: primary emotions, which is like sad, happy, angry, whatever those

693
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: emotions are. And then there's the underlying of that where

694
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you can still feel the ebbs and flows of the

695
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: ten emotions, but you have an underlying current of gratitude, empathy,

696
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: understanding for others and allowing that to be the constant.

697
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: And how do you build that? Because the turbulent emotions

698
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: are part of human life. You can't ever sit there

699
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: and see someone crying their eyes out and not feel

700
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 1: sad for them, like that's impossible. Or you can't have

701
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: someone passing away in your life and feel like, oh

702
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's just you know, a part and part

703
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: out of how things go, no matter how spiritual you are.

704
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: And so I think, of course there are times where

705
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm literally like, I cry my eyes out a lot.

706
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: To be honest, I have a weekly cry. I'm not

707
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: gonna lie.

708
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: It's my podcast. That's why I call it that, because

709
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: I do have. I'm extremely emotional. I go through ebbs

710
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: and flow of emotions a lot, but each emotion I

711
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: can tie back to gratitude and empathy and tolerance, and

712
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: if I focus on those underlying emotions and qualities and

713
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: how to build those. Then those emotion has become easier

714
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: to handle.

715
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

716
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense. I know, I actually

717
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: had it put that.

718
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Actually haven't said it in that way.

719
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: So you said you spoke on a panel, right, And

720
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm also about your business side. I think that's not

721
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: the side that people really hear about it, I know,

722
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: but I think I think they should hear that because

723
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot to you obviously, so being a newbie

724
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: less style, Like would you put it, consider yourself a

725
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 3: newbie in business?

726
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: You know what?

727
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I probably would, but people probably wouldn't say, I am.

728
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, But what kind of lessons have you learned

729
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: specifically from business that you know you didn't expect going

730
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: into it.

731
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: That you don't have to be like a typical CEO,

732
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: girl boss vive when you're running a business, right, and

733
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: that it's okay to not want to be like I

734
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: love the creative part of what I do, Like I

735
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: have obviously a tea company, and in that from everything

736
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: from the visuals to what goes into the drinks to

737
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: making sure that there's the right amount and quantities of

738
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: the adaptagens that I want in that drink and basically

739
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: everything that I know that I have a passion for

740
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: and I am an expert in and can actually contribute

741
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: in a positive way. I'm happy that being my skill set.

742
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: When I decided, I was like, should I actually be

743
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: like taking on a CEO role in this company? I

744
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, is my energy better spent trying to master

745
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: becoming a CEO or is my energy better spent on

746
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: the quality of this drink, what's actually going to help

747
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: it sell and the parts that.

748
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: I can do.

749
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: And so luckily, obviously I'm grateful that I had a

750
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: team that I could hire to do those things. Should

751
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I learn about those things, I did learn about them.

752
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I did think if I had to do this, would

753
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: I be able to do it? But I think playing

754
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: to your strengths and not trying to be someone that

755
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: doesn't fit necessarily into your personality or the things that

756
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: you'd enjoy doing every single day is really important and

757
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: being realistic about it. So when I got on Panels

758
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and there's CEOs and people who are actually doing those things,

759
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: I just share what I know from the part of

760
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: the business that I am part of, versus trying to

761
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: sit in a seat that's not actually built for me

762
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: and that I haven't earned.

763
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: I think that's really powerful because a lot of founders,

764
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: or first time founders especially, they want to play the role,

765
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: but they don't understand that sometimes it's not to their

766
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: strength and they don't identify their actual strengths. Like for

767
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: me as well, and I'm the same. I don't really

768
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: like the more analytical side of business. Yeah, I have

769
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: to do it, I know how to do it. Yeah,

770
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: But like I thrive more on the creative side, like

771
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: things like this, right. So yeah, I think that's powerful

772
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: that you've transcended that kind of I think it's a

773
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: bit of an ego track.

774
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: Actually, I think it is too.

775
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest though, when it comes to content creation,

776
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I started off doing everything myself, from editing to filming

777
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: to you know, working with every single person that I

778
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: needed to to make what I needed to get done done.

779
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: And that is a beautiful place to be in whether

780
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: I had, like I didn't have the money opportunity to

781
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: even do that if I wanted to outsource it to anyone. Yeah, yeah,

782
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: but I think that is important. There's one thing about

783
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: being able to out and having the means and the

784
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: ability to do that. But had I not done all

785
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: of this, I would have been taken for a ride

786
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: most of the time, because I now know if I

787
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: need to do what I can. But also I know

788
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: what to expect from people because I'm like, oh, but

789
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: I've done all of this by myself, so I know

790
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: what to expect from if I have a social media manager.

791
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I know what to expect if have a videographer or

792
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: an editor. And so I think there's one thing about

793
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: leaning into your strengths, but also knowing every part of

794
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: your business, because if you own something, you need to

795
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: know how to create every part of it, or at

796
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: least have an understanding of it.

797
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's true because most people, like you said,

798
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: get taken for a ride. I mean, I know I did,

799
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: like in the early days when I was hiring out

800
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: the stuff that I didn't actually want to learn totally.

801
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: And yeah, just feel more empowered that way, and then

802
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: you're constantly in It's better to be in the know

803
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: about something rather than giving your power. I would say

804
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: as giving my power away. I'm like, what parts of

805
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: my life am I comfortable giving my power away in?

806
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: And what parts of my life? Am I not comfortable

807
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: doing that?

808
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: And I think you can't keep all your power because

809
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: there's a balance between growth and keeping your power. But

810
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: I think in certain areas you have to be able

811
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: to give it away but still have.

812
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: An eye on it. To blend this.

813
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 3: Now, let's do it. Oh yeah. When you create though,

814
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: when you're creating, whether it's food, whether it's setting off, yeah,

815
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: there's plenty. That's when you're creating food, creating content, starting

816
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: a business, Who are you creating for?

817
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Like, that's a really good question, And if I'm completely honest,

818
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's for brands I'm that I'm working for. And

819
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: sometimes I get lost in creating for the algorithm and

820
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: then it doesn't make me happy and then I come

821
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: back to myself. And so I feel like there's a

822
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: big cycle that I go through of Okay, yeah, I

823
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: to put out free content, I do have to work

824
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: with brands to be able to pay for it, which

825
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people also don't see how much money

826
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: goes into creating content too, and so and I do

827
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: enjoy working with brands as well.

828
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: I think there are some really great ones out there.

829
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: But I have to say that whenever I end up

830
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: going back to there's always a point I go through

831
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: these ebbs and flows throughout the year where I'm like,

832
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't even enjoy making content anymore.

833
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: I realize why it is.

834
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: It's because I'm not making stuff that actually makes me

835
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: feel like I'm contributing. And so what I've learned is

836
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: I have to Now now I have a good balance

837
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: of like, this is the stuff I think I should

838
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: be doing, this is the stuff I want to do,

839
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and this is the stuff that's purely for to give

840
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: out to people.

841
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: As whether it does well or not, I don't care.

842
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: And having that balance has been really important for my

843
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: ability to keep creating and not feeling like I'm just

844
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: on this yeah.

845
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I think I was lucky very early on

846
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: to learn to just create for an audience of one,

847
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: which is yourself, right, yeah, because yeah, otherwise you get

848
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: trapped by your audience expectations. You know, like, if something

849
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: takes off you, I say, then people who follow you

850
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: from that are expecting more similar content to that. That

851
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: thing that took off might not be what you actually

852
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: wanted to create, but.

853
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: I do you think it's for you know, I totally

854
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: used to be like that, where I was like, I

855
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: think it's it has to be for me when you

856
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: think about it, You're creating so an audio and.

857
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: Sees it, and so it has to be.

858
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: It's also someone I don't know who said this name

859
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: I have been Jay, and he was like, it's all

860
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: good and well, if you want to create content for you,

861
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: and that's fine, but actually, when you think about service,

862
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: if you're doing it as a point of serving others,

863
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: then there has to be consideration of other people.

864
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: That's true.

865
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: And so I think sometimes we're like, oh, create content

866
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: for yourself, and I'm saying this from a personal experience

867
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: where I used to feel that way, and then I'm like, no,

868
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: but that's not service. Then that's still selfish service. So

869
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: how can I create a balance of serving what my

870
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: needs are? But at the same time, if I'm trying

871
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: to create a community, I can't create for myself while

872
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: trying to create a community. That's very true, and so

873
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: I think that's why there has to be this balance

874
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: of yeah, I am creating for myself, but also I

875
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: am going to do what the people in the community

876
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: want me to do too, because without community, there's also

877
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: it's difficult creating without having someone to receive it.

878
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point, that's true. But then when it comes

879
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: to actually ties in perfectly with detachment right from business

880
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: and results from how many people have seen your staff

881
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: or what not, how do you sort of balance that

882
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: because sometimes we're not balance probably the wrong word, but

883
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: how do you navigate that?

884
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

885
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: I honestly still find it really difficult, Like when things

886
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: that I really want to do, I'll give you an example.

887
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: The content I love making the most is food content.

888
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: It is like if I would make food content all day,

889
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: every day if I could, but my audience tend to

890
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: prefer health hacks, wellness, skin care, hair care, spiritual conversations,

891
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: and so yes, I'm sure I would find the audience

892
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: that would want to watch food all day. And so

893
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: I think there has to be this feeling of I've

894
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: detached for when I make. When I do do food content,

895
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know what this. I know, I

896
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: know this is for me, and so whether it does

897
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: or it doesn't do well, I kind of have to

898
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: be okay with the with the because the information is

899
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: out there for me to know what they're going to

900
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: like if I'm choosing to put things out that I

901
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: know I'm going to do as well, but it makes

902
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: me happy creating it. Then I have to also know

903
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: that ye're fine. It probably won't go viral, it probably

904
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: won't get me growth in that way, but it'll probably

905
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 1: gets me growth yeah my way. Yeah, but it's really

906
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: hard to detach from it, especially where the whole world

907
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: is based around result in some way.

908
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I think I just heard Jordan Peterson

909
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 3: talk about this that good is directly tied to goal.

910
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: You can't have good without a goal. Yeah, and yeah,

911
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: I think it's true. I think because I try to

912
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: operate from detachment. Obviously with everything I do once I

913
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: put it out there, or like even in my old businesses,

914
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 3: i'd never kind of set an expectation because obviously expectation

915
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 3: is the mother of all disappointment and whatnot. But then

916
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: on some level you do have to have, like an

917
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: old star, something that you're aiming towards. So it's like

918
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: finding that middle ground is tough.

919
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: And I think it's more detachment. I think the detachment

920
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: that's being spoken about is detachment from your own worth.

921
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: But if you have a business goal, like let's say

922
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: you are trying to grow your following. Yeah, if you

923
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: are trying to do that, then, of course goals come

924
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: with expectations, and they do come with attachment because you

925
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: care about something. When you care about something, there's attachment

926
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: to something, and so when you have a goal, you

927
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: can be attached to it to get growth in a

928
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: specific area. But as long as that attachment isn't linked

929
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: to you. So it's like, Okay, I know, I want

930
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: a really good cry to hit. I don't know what

931
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: is that like. Let's say I'm like, okay, bye, I

932
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: tell my team I want to hit one hundred k

933
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: followers by this point of time. But also I want

934
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: to have an engaged community. I want to have really

935
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: good feedback. I want this, this, and this. I have

936
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: these goals.

937
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

938
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: For me, that goal is linked to my business. It's

939
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: not linked to them liking me. I'm not seeing as

940
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: a direct hit if they say they don't like a

941
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: really good cry or what I'm speaking about as me

942
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: being a bad person, or that they think I'm not

943
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: good at what I do. So I think there's attachment

944
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: to your goals, but that attachment not being in an

945
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: attachment to who you are and the worth that you have.

946
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, detaching your self worth from your productivity even yeah,

947
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: or from your results. Yeah, absolutely. I think in business

948
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: as well, that's very hard to do because they're both links.

949
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the life style to take it personally.

950
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything literally. I kind of think that serves me

951
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: sometimes though definitely, because it depends what kind of mindset

952
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: or frame you operate from. Like I don't know if

953
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: you've seen The Last Chance Michael Jordan's documentary.

954
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so good.

955
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Like, I think I more lean towards that, where it's like, okay, yeah,

956
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: if something negative happens, then I can like spin that

957
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: into something like into fuel. But yeah, that's just my

958
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 3: frame of operating.

959
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: No, And I think that's such a again, I think

960
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: it's such a personal way of dealing with things.

961
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: All right, let's eat. It's really good. It's exactly the

962
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: same as the as the book, which is crazy, and

963
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: that mine never seems to come out that way. I

964
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: don't know why I want to talk more about the

965
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: iovadic and holistic well being because that's what's what you're

966
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: all about pretty much. But firstly, starting with intention intentionally

967
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: consuming things. Right, So obviously we're intentionally consuming this, but

968
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: how are you choosing, like, aside from your physical diet,

969
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: what are you choosing to consume like mentally as well?

970
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: And how do you feel to that?

971
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have done that in so many different ways

972
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: because I noticed how much different things were affecting me.

973
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: So the first thing I remember doing it with was

974
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: what I was watching. And so I remember when I

975
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: made a decision to go to the temple that was

976
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: close by when I started my meditation practice. I decided

977
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: that every morning I wanted to go there for the

978
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: four point thirty prayers and meditate there with the monks

979
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: till like before work. And what I noticed was the

980
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: moment I got to my front door because obviously it

981
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: was dark outside, I got to my front door to

982
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: leave the house, and I was so scared to leave

983
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: because of all the thoughts that were coming into my

984
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: mind from movies of like when you walk out of

985
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: your door at night, yeah, as a woman, like what

986
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: could happen to you? And so I stopped watching scary movies,

987
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: things that created like high anxiety in me, and things

988
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: that just had too much like stimulation that was unnecessary.

989
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: And so literally, within three months of doing that, my

990
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: like my anxiety levels was so much lower. Because of that,

991
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: getting out of the door wasn't an issue. My mom

992
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: was thinking of the craziest things that could possibly happen

993
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen in movies.

994
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: So when I did that, I noticed what an impact

995
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: it had.

996
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: I thought about all the other things, and so really

997
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: it's every single thing that you let into a sensus.

998
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: So from what you're seeing, what you're hearing, what you're tasting, smelling,

999
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: but you're smelling like every single thing curating that and look,

1000
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: you can't curate it completely, but you can balance it.

1001
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: So I know that if three times a week I'm

1002
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: going to a loud, noisy nightclub and staying out late,

1003
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: I also know that in the morning when meditation is

1004
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: going to be thinking of the loud, noisy music I

1005
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: was listening to the night before, And it really does.

1006
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: There's one thing about how it affects you physically and mentally,

1007
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: but there's definitely an energetic frequency thing that happens when

1008
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: you enter specific environments. And there's such a difference when

1009
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: you walk into a room full of people meditating to

1010
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: if you're walking into a club of people intoxicated whatever.

1011
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: And so I started noticing the energetic differences between locations

1012
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: that I was going to, filtering it based on what

1013
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: was my thought the next day, Like I wake up

1014
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: in the morning, am I thinking of the thing I

1015
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: want to be thinking of, which is.

1016
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: Like God and goodness?

1017
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: Or am I waking up thinking of like the song

1018
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: I heard about asses last night?

1019
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: You know, like, so I think it's like really what?

1020
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: Oh?

1021
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: No, probably something, but yeah, so I think I started

1022
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: noticing what are the thoughts in between the things I'm doing?

1023
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: Yea?

1024
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: And based on the thoughts that were in between the

1025
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: things that I was doing, where have those thoughts come from?

1026
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: Was it from Love Island that I was watching last night?

1027
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: Was it from the thing the monk said yesterday morning

1028
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: when I was listening to it. Is it from a

1029
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: conversation I had with a friend? Because that's allowing things

1030
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: into my ear, like what are all those things and

1031
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: how is it affecting those thoughts in between?

1032
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: That's really powerful because I have a similar process of

1033
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: finding your triggers, right. Basically, there's a process of going

1034
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: through and kind of backtracking through your emotions or like

1035
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: how you were thinking, and then finding the trigger points

1036
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: of what actually initiated that Sleepings of thoughts, and once

1037
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: you find the triggers, then it's easier to recognize the

1038
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: next time, right, because like if you find your patterns,

1039
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: then you know then you can change them. Yeah, And

1040
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: like I said with the frequency thing, I think we

1041
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: are like programmable by nature and we can't. Everyone says,

1042
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: actually transcend your programming, but I don't actually believe that.

1043
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm curious to get your thoughts. I think you could

1044
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: choose your programming. Yeah, but you can't really transcend it.

1045
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: I don't know whether that's unless you're like the most

1046
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: enlightened human being. I just don't think that we are

1047
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: wired to not be programmed. I think we are creatures

1048
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: of habit I think we're creatures of assimilation into Like

1049
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: everything around us does affect our our exten environment does

1050
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: affect our intel environment, even if it's the weather. Like

1051
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: there's so much science that says that you know, people's mood,

1052
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: people's energy levels, so many things are affected just by

1053
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: the weather changing.

1054
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: So if it's just by the weather changing, imagine.

1055
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: How much it's changed by If I walk into a

1056
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: room and energetically you're feeling low or you're angry, I'm

1057
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: going to feel that straight away.

1058
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: Whether I'm aware of it or not. I've become a

1059
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: lot more aware.

1060
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Of those things, even when it comes to people on

1061
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: my team or the people I'm around all the time.

1062
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: It's like, if I'm at.

1063
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: The end of the day feeling energetically drained, not physically,

1064
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: but energetically, why am I not around people that. Yes,

1065
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: of course they're going to take from me, but I

1066
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: also should be getting nourishment back in some way. And

1067
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: if I'm coming up coming into the office at level

1068
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: hundred and I'm trying to give as much energy as

1069
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: possibly can and someone's at twenty, I'm going down to

1070
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: a fifty. Yeah, because there's only so much I can

1071
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: keep to this frequency if I'm not being given that

1072
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: at the same time. And so maybe I need to

1073
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: look into it more or experience it more, but or

1074
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just an amateur in it. But I don't

1075
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: think you can transcend your programming. I think you can

1076
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: elevate it. I think you can change it. I think

1077
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: you can change all your neural pathways and all the habits.

1078
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: And stuff that you do. But I don't know whether

1079
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: the point is to transcend it.

1080
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we are actually supposed to transcend it.

1081
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: So one of the things that you showed me, I

1082
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: think not on purpose, though I think it was indirectly,

1083
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: was like this idea of perception. Right, you invited me

1084
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: to Jay show that he did live, and then afterwards

1085
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 3: there was this whole It was a whole new experience

1086
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: for me because obviously I'm watching as a creator as well,

1087
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 3: not just as a as an audience member or a fan,

1088
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: but also as a creator, and this whole thing of

1089
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: like reality, perception is reality, And what I observe obviously

1090
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: from that night was one how you are interacting with

1091
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: people and how people perceive you versus how you perceive them, right,

1092
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: because they don't you don't particularly know them, but they

1093
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: know you because you've been on their phone or their

1094
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: YouTube video or whatever. How have you like kind of

1095
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 3: been navigating that recently because you gave me a gem,

1096
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 3: which I'll tell you afterwards.

1097
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: I think the more comfortable I feel in my own skin,

1098
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: the more comfortable I feel with I am, with what

1099
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and that comes with alignment of like worst

1100
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: source and actions being in alignment. As much as I

1101
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: can do that, the more I'm okay being seen, if.

1102
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: That makes sense. In whatever way I'm seeing.

1103
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: And so I used to find it really difficult because

1104
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually naturally when I meet people for the first

1105
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: time or if I'm in a well more in a

1106
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: crowded environment, I'm a social introvert, but one on one,

1107
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm like extremely extroverted, and so when I would be

1108
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: surrounded by people, I would find it really difficult to

1109
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: give the energy that they see mean having that is

1110
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: my natural way to be.

1111
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: And then I realized I had to learn to like recycle.

1112
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: That was just at the.

1113
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Point think about it all the time because I'm like,

1114
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: this person has poured into me so much as of

1115
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: being part of the community. I want them to have

1116
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: that exact experience, and it's unfair for me to have

1117
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: my insecurities my walls up when all I've been asking

1118
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: of them is to have a connection with me.

1119
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: And so what I've learned.

1120
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: To do is literally, like a battery, absorb their energy

1121
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: of excitement and pour it back into them in that moment,

1122
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: even if I struggle with.

1123
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: It at the time.

1124
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: It's like a habit that I've had to create because

1125
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I think they really deserve it, and I think it's

1126
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: unfair to have the expectation of someone to follow what

1127
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: you do and be part of your community and maybe

1128
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: buy the things that you're sharing, and then when you

1129
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: meet them in person, you're like, sorry, who are you?

1130
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: Like? That's so disrespectful and so yeah, yeah, I agree.

1131
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: And I think there's there's this idea of I don't

1132
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: know if you've heard of it, but it's called a panopticon.

1133
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 3: No so I spoke about in a previous episode. Right,

1134
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: but it's like it's way a prison is built and

1135
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 3: the guard is in the central tower and he shines

1136
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: the light around to all the prisoners, but prisoners can't

1137
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: see when the light is being frying, so it feels

1138
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: like they're always being watched. Right, do you feel that

1139
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: way or like when you know? But to be honest,

1140
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: you just answer that if you're acting in alignment in

1141
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: private the same way as you in public, then you're

1142
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: not really scared of the light being on you.

1143
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point. I definitely feel that

1144
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: way back.

1145
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: I also think that's why I find it so important

1146
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: to interact with people beyond oh hey you want to

1147
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: take a picture, Yeah, let's take a picture. And I

1148
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: really this is for myself, not even for them to

1149
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: have a point of interaction, not just me voicing myself,

1150
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: to have moments where I can actually connect with people,

1151
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: because otherwise you do end up either feeling like the

1152
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: Queen of the castle or the light guard or like

1153
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: prisoner guard, or you end up feeling so disconnected that

1154
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: you've created a personality that isn't even you. And so

1155
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: actually I prefer those moments where I'm able to meet

1156
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: people and spend time with them and create communities so

1157
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like I'm so far removed for myself,

1158
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: for my own ego too. It's so much better that

1159
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: way because then also breaking that narrative, because some people

1160
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: have a completely different narrative of who you are. They're

1161
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: receiving it so differently. And so an example would be

1162
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: if people are used to seeing me as someone who meditates,

1163
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: they struggle. If I go to a place like Aura, which.

1164
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: Is like.

1165
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: They struggle if I go to a place which is

1166
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, a couple, or if they see me at

1167
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: like a burna boy concept, they're like, what It's just

1168
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: it's so different for them to like, I've experienced this

1169
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: version of this person. But then does that mean this

1170
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: version was a lie? And they're actually this person. So

1171
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: what I try to do is I tried to literally

1172
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: be really open about all the things that I do,

1173
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: but that also confuses people. So if I got a

1174
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I keep saying burner Boy

1175
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: because I really want to go to this concert again.

1176
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: But if I put up a Burner Boy song behind

1177
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: me and they're like, I haven't even thought you listened

1178
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: to that type of music, I'm like, I grew up

1179
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: listening to that music. But for them it's like, oh,

1180
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: but I literally just heard your meditation a week ago,

1181
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: and it just they've created so from one part of

1182
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: my life that they see, they will create a whole

1183
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: narrative of who I am, and so that sometimes is

1184
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: fractured when they experience a different version of me or

1185
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: another part of it. I won't say different version, another

1186
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: part of me that was unexpected, and so I think

1187
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: the best way and that's what I see happen with

1188
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people who obviously have like way more

1189
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: people that are invested in their life than me, where

1190
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: they see someone be this and they're like, oh, I

1191
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: thought that this is this is a narrative I've created

1192
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: of them, and then they see them do something else

1193
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: in the public where they're like, oh, that wasn't what

1194
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: I was expecting of them. Now they're canceled, And so

1195
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: I think it's sharing. Even if it's creating. I actually

1196
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: prefer it because then it breaks down any kind of

1197
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: like oh that's creating you.

1198
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think being trapped in a box or yeah,

1199
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 3: trying not to put yourself in a box, like get

1200
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 3: you're a spiritual person but not being in the spiritual box,

1201
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: or you're the business guy not being in the business box.

1202
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 3: At the same time, you can be in everything.

1203
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: Right, I think for a lot of women.

1204
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: Also his physical appearance, Like I remember my friend actually

1205
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: know her. She literally was like to me, I can't

1206
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: believe you just like wake up and you go straight

1207
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: on Insta. I'm like, you literally don't makeup on you

1208
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: don't do anything like you literally show up sometimes really.

1209
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Rough and I'm like, you know, really rough. Yeah, And

1210
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: I was, And I was.

1211
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Thinking about that because at the time I was like offended,

1212
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: But then I realized I actually wasn't offended because I

1213
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: have consciously had to do that and not put filters

1214
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: when I've got like a spot on my face and

1215
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: not do all those things, because I'd rather someone see

1216
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: me in person and be like, oh my gosh, she's

1217
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: way putting in person or way nicer in person then

1218
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: she is online.

1219
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: Then have the opposite experience.

1220
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: And when you create this image of who you are online,

1221
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: it becomes so consuming of like, oh my gosh, I

1222
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: have to look like this, I have to act like this,

1223
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: I have to be this person, and then you forget

1224
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: who you actually are or who to be when you

1225
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: actually meet people, which creates so much social anxiety. So

1226
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: then you can't even be the person you want to

1227
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: be because you're thinking about how are they perceiving me?

1228
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: And am I that person? Versus just being yes.

1229
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: Like your caricature, you creative yourself, and then you have

1230
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: to yeah, and then.

1231
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: You have to think, am I acting in that way

1232
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: that they're perceiving? Whereas if you're just being online and

1233
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: you're just being in person, then you don't have to

1234
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: have that. Then there's less barriers in between you and

1235
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: that person of like the fake version of you or

1236
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: the person you think they want to receive.

1237
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: Another germ you gave me, I think I don't think

1238
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: you realized it though when you said it, because you

1239
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: said it as a part in comment.

1240
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: Right.

1241
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: It was like when I was first getting started online

1242
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: and stuff, I think you said, oh, by the way,

1243
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: now that you're choosing to put yourself out there, you

1244
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: can't control the perception that you're going to have. Well,

1245
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: like other people are going to have with you. Yeah,

1246
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 3: they've got their own set of filters and you know.

1247
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: And then we just carried on whatever we were doing,

1248
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 3: playing or something, and I thought that was like crazy powerful,

1249
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 3: because I'm if you're in business, you try to control everything. Yeah,

1250
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: and me going from there to that, I'm trying to

1251
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: control perception. But it only finally hit like a year ago.

1252
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: I think I let go of the fear of being

1253
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: seen or whatever and also perception. Yeah.

1254
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to think it was so unfair. When

1255
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: i'd read a comment, I'd be like, they.

1256
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Don't understand what I'm saying, or they've misunderstood who I am,

1257
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: or why do they not think I'm a nice person,

1258
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: because you always want they want to think you're a

1259
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: nice person.

1260
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1261
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I remember every.

1262
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: Time I was complaining, complaining, complaining, and I was like, oh, yeah.

1263
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: If you were I think what I might have said

1264
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: is if you're choosing to be seen. You can't choose

1265
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: how people see you.

1266
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, and it is because if you don't

1267
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: want to be seen, just don't be seen. But at

1268
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you're choosing to be

1269
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: in someone's vision and you're choosing to put yourself out

1270
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: there in that way, there's no way you can control.

1271
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: You can't control how your own family see you. How

1272
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: you're going to control how a million, two million, whatever,

1273
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: how many people see you. It's just impossible because they're received.

1274
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: You can tell two people the exact same thing. Someone

1275
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: can tell me and you the exact same thing. I

1276
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: have received in a completely different way to the way

1277
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: you have, based on my ind securities, based on what

1278
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: I've experienced, based on how I'm choosing to see the world.

1279
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: And there's too many filters to even try and fix

1280
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: all of them, right, not even fix to try and

1281
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: help them see how you want them to see you.

1282
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: Then do you think there are any objective truths that

1283
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: you don't beat all filters?

1284
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 2: Authenticity? And by the way, what I mean by that is,

1285
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: every time I'm.

1286
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: Around rather Naswami, he's one of my spiritual teachers, I

1287
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: notice how and it comes back to this idea of

1288
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: people receiving based on where they're at in life. Some

1289
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: people will meet him and he's very present but also

1290
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: will not waste words, So he will sit there and

1291
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: he'll just be like, and they'll look at you in

1292
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: the eye and they'll be like And for a lot of.

1293
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: People, they do not want to be seen in that way.

1294
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: They are so uncomfortable by his comfort of just being there,

1295
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: Like he's so present and he's so comfortable in his

1296
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: own skin and so comfortable in himself and comfortable soul

1297
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: to soul that he's not even seeing what else is happening.

1298
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: But for that person, if they're not ready to be

1299
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: seen like that, they are like, oh, that was so uncomfortable,

1300
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: so intense. And other people are like, I've never been

1301
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: seen that way and it was amazing. And so you

1302
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: can church show up as you and someone will absolutely

1303
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: hate you based on what they like and dislike, and

1304
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: someone will absolutely love you. And that's even at a

1305
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: spiritual teacher level, who is so such a beautiful embodiment

1306
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: of what a human should be like. And even then

1307
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: people's poots will be like, oh, I need to keep

1308
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: that at a distance.

1309
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: Because I'm not ready for it.

1310
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you feel like you're showing up as

1311
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: the person you want to be, then the way people

1312
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: receive you. I get most angry at myself when I

1313
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: don't show up in the way I want to. Right

1314
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: then I'm actually even sader because I'm like, not only

1315
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: have I not shown up as myself.

1316
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: They also hate me now, so now both of us

1317
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: are losing.

1318
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. There really interesting thing I read right from Plato,

1319
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: who's like one of the old philosophers. He said, two

1320
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: hundred years before this event actually happened, that if the

1321
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: perfect man was to come into the world, then he

1322
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: would be crucified and that was like one seventy eighty

1323
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it. And yeah, I

1324
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: think I've learned from that. You can't try and satisfy

1325
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: people in a world where someone like that would be

1326
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: fruit crucified.

1327
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: No way.

1328
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got over the fear of I guess perception.

1329
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: And the more I did it as well, I think

1330
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: the more reps that I did, I think uncovers everything

1331
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: that you need to know.

1332
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: And so many lessons to be learned from great people

1333
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: like Jesus, where even his friends betrayed it like there's

1334
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: so many Actually learning from people who have been exemplary

1335
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: in those situations, I think that can really help. And

1336
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: obviously none of us are Jesus out here, but learning

1337
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: from people who you see receiving and carrying the discomfort

1338
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: of being criticized and judged gracefully is like such a

1339
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: beautiful way to remind yourself that it can be done.

1340
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: And so following that rather than the people that you're

1341
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: seeing actually not handling it that great, which is what

1342
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: we usually see because it's difficult to receive, but finding

1343
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: those people where you're like, oh, actually, these people took

1344
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: it with so much grace, Like they literally have still

1345
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: continue doing what they're supposed to be doing, still stayed

1346
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: in their power, still stayed in their truth, still carried

1347
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: on with their purpose, even when they were going to

1348
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: be crucified. Like it's just it's insane to think about,

1349
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: and then it puts everything else into perspective.

1350
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, they don't like my hair.

1351
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: Col yeah literally, yah, yeah. Well on the topic of

1352
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: obviously I don't know what's the Jesus, but attaining you know,

1353
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: christ consciousness, Christian consciousness, whatever you want to call it,

1354
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 3: the copy of the Githa that you gave me was

1355
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: by far one of the best I've read. Yeah, what

1356
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: are some of the lessons that you think have stuck

1357
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 3: out for you? I've got so many that just come

1358
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: to mind, and you know, it is the one of

1359
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: them books that you open out a random page.

1360
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: Every day something different. Yea.

1361
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, one of the biggest things that was a change

1362
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: in perspective, maybe not the greatest lesson, but helped me

1363
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: navigate the world better was thinking about the fact that

1364
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: my soul has.

1365
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: Lived so many lifetimes.

1366
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: And the reason is because I think, you know, a

1367
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: lot of people would say, oh, you know, like Yolo,

1368
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: you only live once, and it's like, okay, cool, there's

1369
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: everything you possibly want to do. But actually, what I

1370
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: really appreciate is the idea that my soul has already

1371
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: been through so much and actually so many of the

1372
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: things that I am right now are actually a result

1373
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: of things that have been that I don't understand. And

1374
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: so instead of trying to understand every single thing about

1375
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: why I'm doing what I'm doing, why I get scared

1376
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: of these things? Why am I You know, you can

1377
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: really overanalyze so much of your life but this is

1378
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: just such a snapshot, and so one it can give

1379
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: perspective on the sense of like, let's not take things

1380
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: too seriously, but also let's stop trying to overanalyze things

1381
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: that don't need to be analyzed and that you're not

1382
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: going to figure out. You're not going to be able

1383
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: to figure out everything, and some of that does come

1384
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: from past things that you've been through that you just

1385
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know and you just don't even realize or remember.

1386
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: And also think.

1387
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: About the fact that we are like one tiny thing,

1388
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: tiny being, not even in one universe. There are so

1389
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: many universes out there and so many things that are

1390
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 1: unknown to us. And so another thing that has helped

1391
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: me think of is why would I not think this

1392
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: is possible? Because like, there's so many things that we

1393
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: don't even know in this world that are possible that

1394
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: we don't see with our eyes. Then I believe everything

1395
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: is like for me, everything is possible, and that I

1396
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: think when you think it's just you, there's very limited

1397
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: as possible because all we know is us as our

1398
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: physical body are the things that we see.

1399
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: You don't expect anything else to be real except for

1400
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: the things that you can physically touch.

1401
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: But as soon as you think it's like you plus God,

1402
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: you plus the universe, you plus something that is unlimited,

1403
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: you feel like there's so much more that's possible. So

1404
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: you feel a lot less limited in your abilities because

1405
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, with God's grace, I can do

1406
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: so much more.

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01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to think of as co creation basically.

1408
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: Co creation, Yeah, exactly, But it's.

1409
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: Just you don't most people group project Yeah, pretty much

1410
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: person credit. Yeah, Yeah, it's true. I think like when

1411
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: I made that switch as well that it's all co creation.

1412
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 3: I think it gave me a lot more I guess,

1413
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 3: power to draw on.

1414
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and knowing what you have to do to be

1415
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: worthy of that power and what does that mean.

1416
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: It's like it's like if someone's giving you a baby,

1417
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: you need.

1418
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: To have the prep done. You need to know how

1419
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: you're going to look after that baby. You need to

1420
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: be willing to put in the time, the energy, and

1421
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: the effort to look after that child. So the same way,

1422
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: it's like, if I'm going to be giving you power,

1423
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: I want to see you've.

1424
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: Done the work before I even give it to you.

1425
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Right, And so many people think sit there waiting for

1426
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: the power to be given to them, or like waiting

1427
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: for that thing to happen, but actually doing the pep

1428
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: work beforehand to show, actually, I'm consistently showing you I

1429
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: can receive and I am worthy of this. It's like

1430
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: when you want a promotion at work, then just give

1431
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: it to you before you've shown you can do it.

1432
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: And so I think it's consistency in integrity and in

1433
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: your actions and in your words to show oh, actually,

1434
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: now I'm worthy of this power and then it's given

1435
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: to you.

1436
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so true. It's like when people talk about opportunity,

1437
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: opportunity waiting to arrive for them, Yeah, it never actually

1438
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: misses you. You just choose when that opportunity arrives according

1439
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: to the prep that you've done or the frequency that

1440
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: you're at, whatever you want to call it.

1441
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: Right.

1442
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: One of the ones that stuck out for me was

1443
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: when Christiana said that you're only entitled to the labor

1444
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: and never to the fruits, right, And that made me

1445
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: think about, Okay, if I'm only entitled to the labor,

1446
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 3: then what am I doing it for? Like obviously mastery

1447
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: the mastery of self, spiritual progression, physical progression, but then

1448
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: also doing it in service is something higher than you.

1449
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 3: And then I remember you made a post recently or

1450
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: a while ago, like when you were in service of

1451
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: I think rather not Swami. You made you realize sometimes

1452
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: how many kind of selfish thoughts that you have? Yeah,

1453
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 3: so how often do you are you trying to bring

1454
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: that back to the forefront of your mind because obviously

1455
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: it's hard, like you think about yourself all the time.

1456
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you ever get rid of those

1457
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: thoughts because we're still the physical body.

1458
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,959
Speaker 2: You can't pretend like we're not. But I do think

1459
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: maybe not get.

1460
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: Rid of, but like become aware of or become aware of.

1461
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: It by being present. I guess such a simplified answer,

1462
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: but I realized, I'm the only way you can actually

1463
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: become aware of anything is by being with it, and

1464
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: so presence. A lot of people don't realize that presence

1465
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: is the answer to so much. And the ability to

1466
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: keep coming back to this moment and making sure that

1467
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: you are tuned and locked in is how you have

1468
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: deeper connections, is how you realize what's happening not just

1469
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: in your mental state but your physical body. The amount

1470
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 1: of people I meet where when I take them through

1471
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: like a process of connecting with their body where I

1472
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: do this like breastwork thing and I'm like, okay, so

1473
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: breathing into your shoulder and they're like, oh my.

1474
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: God, I didn't know I had this pain.

1475
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Like that single moment of breath and presence helps them

1476
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: to even realize whether they've had pain in their body

1477
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: for years or months or days where they haven't even

1478
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: noticed because of such lack of presence. And so I

1479
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: actually think loneliness comes from lack of presence. The ability

1480
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: to not concentrate or feel like they've got connection to

1481
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: someone comes from lack of presence. Selfish thoughts come from

1482
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: lack of presence because actually, if you're present in the world,

1483
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: there are so many people to care about.

1484
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: It's unreal.

1485
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: There are so many things to be doing beyond repeated

1486
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: thoughts of what I should have and what I should

1487
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: be doing and what's been done that's wrong to me.

1488
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: So if you're actually present in this world, then you're

1489
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: observing there's so much more that there's so much more

1490
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: interesting than what's going on in your head.

1491
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: If you allow there to be.

1492
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: That's the thing, if you allow it and again comes

1493
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: back so that it's a choice, right, like every synchronicity

1494
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: that I experience, whether it's the flamingos or like the

1495
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: numbers that she or whatever you want to call it,

1496
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 3: it's always because I've been training like hyper awareness. Yeah,

1497
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: and then it's not that I'm seeing things that other

1498
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: people aren't, as in that aren't there. No, it's just

1499
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 3: that you know, I'm trying to tune myself to see them. Yeah,

1500
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: in a way when.

1501
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: You who told me about when you first told me

1502
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: about this flamingo thing, I'm not joking. Now every time

1503
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: I see flamingo, I send it to you. But what

1504
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: that shows is when you become attuned to something or

1505
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: you have a connection of something to someone, even that

1506
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: in itself makes you more present. And so imagine you

1507
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: were able to teach yourself.

1508
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: To do that with different things.

1509
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: So like for flowers, for example, every time I see

1510
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: a flower and I go closer, I'm like, this is

1511
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: one of the most magical things that have ever existed

1512
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: on the world, in the world because the intricacies of

1513
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: a flower is insane.

1514
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1515
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but or I could look at it and be like, ah,

1516
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: that's a cute flower.

1517
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: But like for me, it's like, Wow, the world is

1518
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: phenomenal every time I look at a flower. But that's

1519
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: because I've trained my mind to think that. Every time

1520
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: I see the sun, I'm like, oh my gosh, you

1521
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: literally give me energy, give life to every single thing

1522
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: on this earth. Thank you so much. I am just

1523
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: constantly ingratitude to the sun. So all that to say,

1524
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: I've through different prayers I've read as well. It's helped

1525
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: me to feel so much gratitude for everyday ordinary things.

1526
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: So actually, life can never be boring if you choose

1527
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: to live that way.

1528
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: As soon as I change that mindset, whenever people say

1529
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: they're bored, I'm like, what do you mean?

1530
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: You're bored?

1531
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: And that to me ten years ago, I would have

1532
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: been like, of course, like I'm bored all the time,

1533
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: what do you mean, I want.

1534
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: To have stimulation all the time.

1535
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: Of course, boredom exists, But actually boredom exists when you

1536
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: choose not to turn ordinary into something extraordinary, which you

1537
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: have the ability to do every day. And it's simply

1538
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 1: by thinking, oh, wow, this is actually incredible. That fireplace,

1539
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wonder how old it is, and

1540
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: the artwork on there, I wonder.

1541
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: Who drew it.

1542
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: So curiosity is actually something that kills boredom, Wow, and

1543
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: kills judgment and kills everything.

1544
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: And so interesting paradigm because the way I think of

1545
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: it is the opposite of stimulation is boredom. But maybe

1546
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: it's not boredom.

1547
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it is boredom, Yeah, because I always

1548
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: it's not the same. Yeah.

1549
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, and I would say boredom birth curiosity, but

1550
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: I guess maybe not in the way that you explained it.

1551
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 3: I think I haven't actually heard it that way. Yeah,

1552
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 3: in those moments I find them, Like when people ask

1553
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: me for advice on how to figure out their next steps,

1554
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: I never can. You can never tell them obviously, but

1555
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: you can tell them to carve out time for solitude

1556
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 3: or silence. What role is that, which again is presence?

1557
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, direct, if you're on direct transmission from

1558
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: the universe or from God, then it's just like be

1559
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 3: alone in nature.

1560
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1561
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: And if you look at every great yogi or stage

1562
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: or profit, they all had this period of isolation.

1563
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: But that's also because like, okay, let's say we're having

1564
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: we have times we've had an hour and a half

1565
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: to have this conversation. Had we not had this, I

1566
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have learned this about you, would have learned this

1567
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: about me. And so in the same way, we see

1568
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: solitude as oh, I'm being with myself, but no, you're not.

1569
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: You're tuning in to all the thing thing is that

1570
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: are unheard through the noise that's being created. And so

1571
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: this is like thank you, But yeah, I just think

1572
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: that that connection is with the universe, with nature, with

1573
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: God or whoever you want to connect to that's beyond

1574
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: what you see is required in solitude because the noise

1575
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: is always present. So the only time you can really

1576
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: connect to that is when you're in a moment of peace,

1577
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: and then that can filter into everything. Then as soon

1578
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: as you start seeing all the little things, every moment

1579
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: can feel like little moments of magic or little moments

1580
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: of connection.

1581
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: Then how do you focus when you're in that kind

1582
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: of state.

1583
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 2: It depends what focus means because.

1584
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 3: Centralized energy into one thing, but that.

1585
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: All feeds that in my opinion, like me being in

1586
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: awe of a flower helps you feel my creativity because

1587
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: how like where would I get creativity comes from everything

1588
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: that you receive. I actually noticed lack of presence for

1589
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: me is when I'm least creative in the kitchen, least

1590
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: creative in my content because I'm not receiving anything. I'm

1591
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: not allowing anything to actually impacts me. And so in

1592
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: that case, then I am bored because I'm like, oh

1593
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so bored. I'm playing the same thing

1594
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: over and over again. Got no new ideas, got nothing

1595
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: new to give out to people. Why because I'm not

1596
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: observing or receiving anything exactly.

1597
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's so true. And there's ways to create

1598
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: like pockets of time to hear those things.

1599
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1600
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: So one of the things I've been trying, I think

1601
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: I think it was actually you that said it, well

1602
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: maybe you've mentioned it, is like conscious eating or conscious

1603
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: I think you said it at dinner once, like just

1604
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: if you're there then like no screens, no phone, just

1605
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 3: if you're there with people, then speak to the people,

1606
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: or if it's alone then just you know, kind of

1607
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,839
Speaker 3: just eat. And it feels really strange at first, obviously,

1608
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: because it's like there's this meme online. It's like you've

1609
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: been sentenced to a meal without YouTube. Yeah, like yeah,

1610
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: the more you do it.

1611
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: The more you notice and we will be like, oh

1612
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: my gosh, what's this flavor? Oh my gosh, this is amazing.

1613
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: Oh my body doesn't feel good when I'm eating that.

1614
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel so energized after eating that.

1615
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: I think you become a lot more.

1616
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: Efficient when you do moments like that, and.

1617
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: You become a lot more able because you start to

1618
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: notice things that you wouldn't have normally noticed that could

1619
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: actually be affecting you in negative way.

1620
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 3: And as a paradox, because you think you're being efficient

1621
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 3: by watching the YouTube VI because it's not like any

1622
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 3: YouTube video, it's like you're learning something right, but then

1623
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: you're not fully in either thing exactly. Yeah, when it

1624
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 3: comes to obviously your training ivada and yoga and all

1625
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 3: of these different areas, when it comes to like developing

1626
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: a routine or creating a routine, like I've done one

1627
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: thousand and one routines. Yeah, but then I've obviously, through

1628
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 3: experimenting filtered the best thing for me. How would you

1629
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 3: suggest to do it? But obviously using your knowledge of

1630
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: ivada or yoga or the things that you're an.

1631
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: Expert in of creating a routine.

1632
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 3: Routine or like daily habits for like the most efficiency

1633
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 3: and presence throughout the day.

1634
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: As well, I think you have to simplify and think, Okay,

1635
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm going to do something for my mind,

1636
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: something for my body, something for my heart.

1637
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 2: It can start as simple as that. In the morning,

1638
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a fifteen minute workout because that's all

1639
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: the time I've got. That's for my physical body.

1640
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: For my mind, I'm gonna journal, go outside, take some

1641
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: deep breaths. And then for my heart, I'm gonna or

1642
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 1: spirit I'm gonna meditate, or I'm going to listen to

1643
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: something that feels meaningful that's going to carry me throughout

1644
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: the day. Or I'm going to read a chapter of

1645
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: something or a few pages that stimulate a quality or

1646
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: an emotion that I want to feel and pass out

1647
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: to somebody else. Right, And so I feel like if

1648
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: you simplify in those three ways and then you can

1649
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: mimic that even at night. Then and then I say, okay,

1650
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: what can I do now to bring myself back to

1651
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: my physical body? And that might be one of my

1652
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: favorite things is up Younger. It's like a self body

1653
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: massage with all and you can do it just on

1654
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: your feet, you can do it on your hands, but

1655
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 1: one the feeling of touch ends up being so grounding

1656
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: for your body and two and it can be any

1657
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: kind of self care routine that you want to do,

1658
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: like it could be a skincare routine. It can be

1659
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 1: anything that brings you back to your body and helps

1660
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: you to reconnect your mind to your body.

1661
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: Breath is usually that. It's like in when I do.

1662
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: My yoga teacher training, they said, breath is the anchor

1663
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: between your mind and your body.

1664
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: And it helps you to link both.

1665
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: So if you're in a moment of anxiety lack of presence,

1666
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 1: use your breath to bring you back.

1667
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: So I use breath a lot throughout.

1668
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: The day, but it can be anything physical and then

1669
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: mental at night, could be there's a really beautiful sleep

1670
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: meditation if someone finds it really difficult to sleep, but

1671
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: also is a great.

1672
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: Way to connect back to your body.

1673
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: And it's a yoga nidra, and essentially it is a

1674
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: practice of most of the time, what they do is

1675
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: they go through from head to toe. You take a

1676
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: breath into each part of your body and it really

1677
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: helps you to see where you're holding tension, where you're

1678
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: stressed out, where you're holding a lot of emotion in

1679
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: your body.

1680
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: It really helps you to figure that out. But also

1681
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: brings presence back into your body. And then a little

1682
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: prayer at night.

1683
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like an hour of meditation,

1684
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 1: like literally a prayer of wellbeing for other people, a

1685
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: prayer of gratitude for anything that's happened, a prayer.

1686
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: Of this is what I want to be tomorrow.

1687
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: My grandma every single night before she goes to bed,

1688
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: she's like, please let in halloway, so please let me

1689
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: wake up at this time so I can do my prayers.

1690
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: That's her prayer that works though yourself, it really does.

1691
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,879
Speaker 3: I don't need an long.

1692
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: But she was like, God, please let me wake up

1693
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: because I want to pray at this time in the morning.

1694
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: Please make sure I wake up at this time, And like,

1695
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: what beautiful thing to be thinking about the way that

1696
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: you want to connect and start your day the next

1697
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: day but in the evening. So yeah, just simplify it,

1698
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: find one thing for each and stick with it for

1699
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,839
Speaker 1: a little bit and if it doesn't work, try something.

1700
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: Else that's amazing. And then just before you close off,

1701
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 3: just as a bit of a selfish ask, obviously, just

1702
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 3: for advice. I've just turned twenty six, right, Yeah, So

1703
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 3: as a woman who's in her late forties fifty.

1704
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: I mean if it was, that would be amazing.

1705
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: Just if you were my age again, what would you

1706
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 3: have wanted to know? Oh?

1707
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 1: My things, by the way, guys, but what would I

1708
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: have wanted to know? You know, when people ask this question, sorry,

1709
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: I forget this answer. I always think like everything's reveal

1710
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: to you at the right time. So I really struggled

1711
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: with that question some time.

1712
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: But effect like not included basically, so if what.

1713
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: Do I wish I had known at twenty six?

1714
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: Oh, I know something similar to what we spoke about earlier,

1715
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: That is, don't worry about not being an expert, something

1716
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: like do something anyway, even if you look dumb, even

1717
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: if you look silly, even if you're not good at it,

1718
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: because the experience is going to give you so much

1719
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: more than the regret of like not doing things in

1720
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: your life because you think you're going to look a

1721
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: certain way, Like if you can't dance, but it makes

1722
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: you happy, dance if you can't sing, but it makes

1723
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: you happy. Saying like, there's so many things that we

1724
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: don't do based on external validation, and I wish I

1725
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: had done a lot more then that I'm now doing.

1726
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: In my thirties that I was like, oh, why would

1727
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: I not? Why do I not do that? Because it

1728
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: would have made me so happy doing it at the time.

1729
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 3: No, that's very powerful. Well I think that's great to

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 3: close on. Thank you so much for your time and

1731
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: for the conversation. For the feud.

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: Yes, fantasy did your meal you know, probably not?

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can past the cookbook just so people

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Speaker 3: can go and buy it.

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Speaker 2: This is My.

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Speaker 3: Joy is out everywhere. It's still one of the best

1737
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 3: salads on Amazon, in cookbooks everywhere, which is crazy. So

1738
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Speaker 3: going by it, and I don't think people I need

1739
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: to tell people to pology. They already know where you are,

1740
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Speaker 3: so you can.

1741
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to bet.

1742
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a pleasure. I'm glad our conversations off

1743
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Speaker 3: camera on camera pretty much the same, the same. Yeah,

1744
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 3: it's so true. Thank you again, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is wonderful. Appreciate it all right,