1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Cols Media. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: All right, before we get started, a reminder The Endling, 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: The Beautiful Endling, the poetry album that I did with 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: producer Matt Alsowski, Killing the Beat, Sawski Making all these Beats. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: We did a poetry spoken word album together. We will 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: be performing live October twenty second at the Allegiant Theater 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Jamie be having stuff there too, so 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: the theater's pretty small, so I truly suggest that you 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: get your tickets asap. My wife refer to her by 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: her prefix doctor Almazaragoza. Petty will be reading from her 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: book King Ghana. Highly suggest you grab some tickets for this. 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good time. Man. Get to see 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: that other side of me, the poems that you've been 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: hearing at the end of the tap in. 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: It will be there. And yeah, man, it'll be great 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: to see y'all pull up on boom. 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: And I don't even know which parts of me, which 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: bricks of mine standing on top of each other. I 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: know which ones I wish were I build these to 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: last and those not to be seen, But who knows. 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: No entire chunks of my person gone into the ash 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: sheet of the ages. 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: There's still other. 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: Parts of me reclaimed by the jungles, flora reimagined by 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: its fauna. 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Things I thought. 27 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: Were permanent had small cracks, and these plants popped through 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: simple room. Okay, do y'all even remember twenty fifteen? 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I know Fetti Wop had hip hop in a choke 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: hold with Hindo. What's up? Hello? Heer stup bund and 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: stopped by sir ers Hey. 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: That had happened. Mike Brown's body was still cold? What else, 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: Olivia Rodrigo, good for you? A lot was going on 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, However, in the midst of all this 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: and the burgeoning beginnings of the Black Lives Matter movement, 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: where discussions about race, politics, justice had reached a fever pitch. 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: And it's around the time that when I was writing 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: the Crooked album, that opening line of the song Crooked Ways, 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: where the grandpops who couldn't fathom the obamases, I don't 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: hate America, just the man she cheeps her promises, twenty 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: teens looking like the sixties. 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: It was in this moment that probably one of the 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: greatest gifts, to believe it or not, Black Twitter happened 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: in Mississippi, where a man discovers a hate crime right 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: in front of his house. This man discovers a burnt 47 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Mississippi state flag and some racial graffiti in front of 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: his past. I don't even know how to say the 49 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: city Pasagola home he noticed. Matter of fact, I'll just 50 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: read the article from Pasagola, Mississippi. 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: This is WLOX. 52 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: Police are investigating a disturbing discovery in front of a 53 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: home in Pasagola, a burnt Mississippi flag next to racial graffiti. 54 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: Bob Komas, who lived in his home on Jackson Avenue 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: for nine years, says he always flies the Mississippi flag 56 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: next to the American flag while people. While the police 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: were investigating the vandalism, Koma said, it's a crime that's 58 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: connected to hate. I looked and just went really into 59 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: shock by seeing the flag that was being burned. Now again, 60 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: remember this was around the time that look, we were 61 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: talking about taking down Confederate statues. 62 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Like this was a really. 63 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Pivotal moment in the movement that this elderly white man 64 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: experienced this hate crime. He says, he gets really emotional. 65 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Back to the article, he said, I get really emotional 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: when I saw the charred, shredded remains of the Mississippi flag. 67 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: He says, I'm tore up. It just really disturbs me. 68 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: That's the worst thing that can happen, a flag being burned. 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want anybody to even walk on it, Kama said. 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Around five thirty am on Monday, his daughter discovered the 71 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: burnt banner and the words spray painted on his driveway. 72 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Blacks rule. 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: It is racist and hate and they're going to burn 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: your flag, to take your flag on the side of 75 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: your house, burn it. 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't that be hatred? 77 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: Now, as this picture, this image of this man standing 78 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: in front of his own driveway, in front of this 79 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: burnt Mississippi flag and the words in black spray paint, 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Black's rule. 81 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Written on his driveway. 82 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: This image had black Twitter in a choke hold. His 83 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: image had me wheezing. Can you guess why this image 84 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: would have me wheezing? Just take a guess, And why 85 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: it had every black person that I know from here 86 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: to the Mississippi River laughing uncontrollably. Why because it ain't 87 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: a black person on earth that would write the words 88 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: blacks rule. Ain't nowhere in the world we would say that. 89 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: Why this man standing in front of his house, telling 90 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: on himself, because ain't nowhere in the world, no self 91 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: loving African American. We would never ever, I have never 92 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: heard the phrase Black's rule went. First of all, remember 93 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: how I told y'all, I'm gonna sock you in your 94 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: throat if you start a sentence with the blacks, because 95 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: I already know the next thing out your mouth gonna 96 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: is going to be incredibly racist if don't nobody say 97 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Black's rule, sir. And to see this man saying, is 98 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: his hatred right, his hatred? In his hatred, sir? 99 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: You wrote that yourself? 100 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: Okay it it was so obviously not us that it 101 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: became a meme. Now you have to remember this is 102 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: during the height of the Black lives the beginning of 103 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter movement. So this man clearly felt 104 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: a way that out here in the in the in 105 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: the in the suburbs in Mississippi, that that that that 106 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: that that that that that hate goes both ways. And 107 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: I just need y'all to see this. Y'all disrespected the flag. 108 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Let me show you, to let me tell you what 109 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: these black people do. 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Man. 111 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: They wrote Black's Rule on the driveway and it burnt 112 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: the flag Okay, I got to you that was so 113 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: funny because, like I said, ain't no way in the 114 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: world nobody Black wrote that I don't need to finish 115 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: the article. And I bet you you knew exactly where 116 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: I was going with this. Ain't no way in the 117 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: world no black person wrote Black's rule. We don't talk 118 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: like that. I just kind of feel like, now, I 119 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: don't know for a fact, but I know for a fact, 120 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: ain't nobody write anti ice or no damn. 121 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Bullet hood politics. 122 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: Y'all? All right, welcome to this episode of just kind 123 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: of like you Joe Antenna's Okay, I kind of feel like, listen, 124 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a number of caveats. We're gonna have 125 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: some caveart caveats on this. I'm just saying this don't 126 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: sit right. There is certain things right now that whether 127 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: you the far left, the far right, whatever the situation 128 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: you in, you looking at the US government, like, bro, 129 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: what is you doing? It is giving Black's Rule? Okay, y'all, 130 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: Whether we about to talk about them text messages from 131 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson, whether we're finish talk about the Epstein files, 132 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: or whether we're fin to talk about this Dallas shooting 133 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: here's caveat number one. All of these things are terrible. 134 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: This is not any sort of tape recording saying that 135 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: the issues, the situations for which we talking about are 136 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: something that is laughable. None of this is a laughing matter. 137 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: What is a laughing matter is what the hell the 138 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: government is saying about it. I'm from Los Angeles, and 139 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: as y'all know, Los Angeles is incredibly notorious the police 140 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: department for being freakishly corrupt and hello races. I'm from 141 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: the sprinkle some crack on them era where the police 142 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: were known for like planting drugs inside of cars, uh, 143 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: planting weapons, especially when you wanted to get somebody to talk, now, 144 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: during the during the street sweeping, the gang injunctions. Now, 145 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm personally a little young for this. You know, when 146 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: this was like really hot, this was happening too, like 147 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: the teenagers and the you know, the early twenties, when 148 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: I was really more like nine to eleven, like I 149 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: was still barely getting into middle school when a lot 150 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: of this was happening. But the the the LAPD was 151 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: known like this, this is it's legend. You you'd see 152 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: a group of guys cops will hop out line them 153 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: all up because there was a suspicion of gang activity. 154 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: When you saw two or more of the blacks gathered together. 155 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: Their gangs are in the midst at little church joke. 156 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: But it would it would be a very normal sign 157 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: for you to line them all up, you know, search 158 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: them all and then they would start asking questions, hein, 159 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: you heard about this, a you've seen pooky, you've seen this. 160 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: You'd be like, I ain't seen nothing. 161 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: They'd be like, oh, okay, word okay, hands on a card 162 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: and then they searching. 163 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: They're like, ooh, what's this? Is this five pounds of weed? 164 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: And they would basically say that they found weed on 165 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: you and then would be like, oh man, we got 166 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: to arrest you unless you tell us something, you know, 167 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: and like give us something. 168 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: What's going on? 169 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: What's going So this is how they would pump people information, 170 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, When they roughed us up. 171 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: When they would us as in just the neighborhood kids. 172 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Like I said, I was a little too young to 173 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: experience this stuff directly, but like when do you do? 174 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: Them were being roughed up and stuff. 175 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: The the the excuse was the same excuse that y'all 176 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: would see during this time he had a weapon. My 177 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: life fell. I felt like my life was in dangers. 178 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: But they didn't just say it. They would put a 179 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: weapon there, right, you'd place a weapon and then take 180 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: a picture of it and then turn it in as evident, 181 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: and that was just it. It would be your word 182 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: as a street kid against the Los Angeles Police Department. 183 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: And what they were doing was cleaning. 184 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Up our streets. 185 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: All the copaganda that you were seeing in the movies 186 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: and TV and stuff like that, everybody wanted somebody that 187 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: was tough on crime. 188 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, all these movies. 189 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: About cops where they have these special elite groups of 190 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: cops that don't really follow the rules. You know, they 191 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: don't you know, they go out there and they rub 192 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: the guys up. You know, if the streets are rough, 193 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna be rough. That all that stuff made it 194 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: okay for the police to break all kind of laws 195 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: and to do all kinds of brutality to young people 196 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: in the streets. So the point I'm trying to make 197 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: is they just planted evidence on us us as in 198 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: the community. They just planted evidence, and that just it 199 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: meant that they would obfuscate any sort of accountability for 200 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: their actions. Now, while this is not we're not in 201 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: an era where the police need to do that anymore. 202 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you you've been around. They got dog 203 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: on cameras on their chest and still kill us. It 204 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: don't make no difference. Now, it seems like. 205 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: You do that to score some political points. I bring 206 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: you to. 207 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: The bullet inscribings of the shooter in Dallas. Walk with 208 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 2: me for a second, because y'all. 209 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: It is giving blacks wool. 210 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: Now, as you may or may not know, there was 211 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: a shooting at the ice office in Dallas. It's a 212 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: very tragic thing. They said that there was some handwritten 213 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: notes left behind by the man who shot the Dallas 214 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: ice Field office on Wednesday. This today is September twenty 215 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: sixth that I'm recording this. This is Friday. I'm still 216 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 2: up in Portland. We just finished yesterday the Live behind 217 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: the Bastards. Shout out y'all who came through. That was 218 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: so fun, man, it's cool to see y'all like cool 219 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: to see I saw all four of the melanated fans 220 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: of the show. I appreciate y'all standing up and shouting out, 221 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know when they're going to air this episode, 222 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: but it was fun, man, So yeah, I'm still up 223 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: here for that and. 224 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Just having a good time. 225 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: But anyway, so last week somebody went up and shot 226 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: up the Ice office. Now, remember this is happening right 227 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: around the time as we know of Charlie kirk'ssassination and everybody, 228 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: especially in a time when see this is why this 229 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: needs to be a whole show, because in a time 230 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: that we're so polarized, it seems as though it is 231 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: much more expedient for these mass shooters, these killers to 232 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: fit into ideological boxes. And the reality is it's just 233 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: not that simple. Crazy come in all different sizes and shapes, 234 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: all different political slants, all different orientations, and the reality 235 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: is we just don't know. We just truly don't know. 236 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: And you can't know where a person stands because a 237 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: lot of times it moves right or it's so much 238 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: more complicated and nuanced than what the news want to 239 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: tell you. But when you're in the process, when you're 240 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: in stage six of an autocratic fascist takeover, you need 241 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: very clear villains. Because you noticed how Tyler Robinson, who 242 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: shot Charlie Kirk, went from him today somehow another that 243 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: ended up with Antifa being scheduled as a terrorist group. 244 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, first of all, it's not a group, 245 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: it is an idea. 246 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't need to tell y'all that. Y'all understand. 247 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: I've never been to the ANTIFA meetings, but you know, apparently, oh, 248 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: all the people that storm Normandy, they probably card carrying 249 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: anti fascists. 250 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: But what do I know. 251 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, it was reported after this person was shot, he 252 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: took a bullet to his own dome. Okay, and in 253 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: this spray of bullets and violence, even some of the 254 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: Mexican detainees also lost their life. But that's not why 255 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: this is giving Black's rule. Why it is giving Black's 256 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: rule because your boy cash pat tail it is. 257 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: It's I'm sorry, y'all. This is funny. 258 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: It even makes it more funny that major news outlets 259 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: reported this. The shooters' writings were definitely anti Ice and 260 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: included hatred for the federal government. The prosecutor says, why 261 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: does he say that, Well, it's because. 262 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: The bullets casings say anti Ice. Now, class. 263 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: If this was truly a radical leftist, what would we 264 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: write on the bullet I hear you look we talked 265 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: about this yesterday. We would write fuck Ice, we might 266 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: write abolish Ice. What we would never say is anti Ice. 267 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: I have not seen a Listen, I've been outside in 268 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: Los Angeles since the raids started happening. I don't seen 269 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: every possible photo of protest sign. We don't drink we 270 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: drink our her chot thou warm because fuck Ice. We 271 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: don't offer ice coffee here because fuck Ice. 272 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: Listen, it's t. 273 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: Shirts, it's graffiti, it's everywhere it says fuck Ice. I 274 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 2: have never, ever, ever seen a single protest that's anti Ice. Listen, 275 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: Nobody says Black's rule. Okay, don't nobody say anti Ice. 276 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you was trying to make it 277 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: look like a leftist did this saying anti Ice, the 278 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: math don't math. 279 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: We don't talk like that. Y'all gotta do y'all whole work. 280 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: It is giving. 281 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: Black's rule. Now, Listen, I don't know that boy. I 282 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: don't know the way he thought, and you don't either, 283 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: because he's dead. Okay, However, I will say this, Let's 284 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: just say he was radicalized. What the hell do you 285 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: think radicalized him? I'm just saying it just seemed like 286 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: and this, how to this this? See, this is how 287 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: fascism works. How it works is it it relies on cynicism. 288 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: You feel me. 289 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 2: There is a real distrust for the system, which all 290 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: of us can agree on. And then that that distrust 291 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: for the system for brilliance. That's why the whole tail 292 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: and all shit work because there's a distrust for the institution, right, 293 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 2: and it feeds on that. It feeds on that distrust, 294 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: It feeds on that disillusionment, it on that lack of resources, 295 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: and then it tells you what the problem is. See 296 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: this was the same about again what we grew up 297 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: with with the tough on crime. It feeds on the 298 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: fact that, yes, gang violence is truly a problem. 299 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: Don't get us wrong, y'all. 300 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: Listen to the episode with thiszle y'all listen to the 301 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: episode on It Can Happen. Hear about it never being 302 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: about crime. It's never about that. But the thing is 303 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: we're the ones experience in the crime. When you talk about, 304 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: what about the gang shootings in Chicago, Like, that's not 305 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: your problem, that's Chicago's problem. You think we don't care, 306 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: But you think Chicago don't care about that. You think 307 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: la ain't cared about its own gang violence. We cared 308 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: about it. But what authoritarian plays on is the fact 309 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: that you cared about that, and then they get to 310 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: say they gonna fix that problem. And how they gonna 311 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: fix that problem is identify the problem, and oftentimes the 312 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: identity of that problem is somebody that then people don't 313 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 2: like that be the problem. Now, resources not what the 314 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: evidence shows us. Like we said again on the act 315 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: that happened here episode, the lack of resources be usually 316 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: the issue, right, And of course, you know there's a 317 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: tradition of camaraderie and belonging that is marred for just 318 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: sort of like gang membership and activity. And you know 319 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: it's understood, you know what I'm saying, Like, I've tried 320 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: my best in the show to humanize these young men 321 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: that participant in women that participate in that type of 322 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: type of life and activity because I get it. I understand. 323 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm from the neighborhoods you from. I didn't make the 324 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: same choices they made, but I'm from the neighborhoods they're from. 325 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: But however, I'm also a victim of that stuff. There 326 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: were I couldn't the high school I wanted to go 327 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: to I couldn't go to because of gang stuff. 328 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: I had to go to a whole other school because 329 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: of that. 330 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: So, like we all had to alter our lives, you know, 331 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: because of the reality of sort of the crime and 332 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: violence that was in our neighborhoods. 333 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: But that did not mean we needed the military. 334 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: These gang these these these street sweepers, these gang jumptions, 335 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: these gang up to these massive conscerrations that didn't help. 336 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: But that's what authoritarianism uses. It uses your distrust, your 337 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: lack of safety, and then it says, uh huh, see 338 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: that your problem is them. So but that being said, 339 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you running soldiers through their cities, especially with ice, 340 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: you to capture their grandmamas. That you snatching people off 341 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: the streets, What the hell you expect You can only 342 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: push people for so long. I mean like it's like, yeah, 343 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: it's like you've never experienced a bully. You know, you 344 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: experienced a bully. Bully pick on you take your lunch 345 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: every day, you know, like my my you know, prefer 346 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: to her buyer prefix doctor Alma. You know she somehow 347 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: another landed a job at my daughter's school. You know, 348 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: when she mess around here and and dealing with the 349 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: eighth grade. You know, little boys doing eighth grade boys stuff. 350 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: You feel me? 351 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: And then one of them little boys is like, you're 352 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: gonna get tired. I'm tired of you picking on me. 353 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: Take one, he tests that little boy chin And now 354 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: that little boy who been picked on got his chin checked. 355 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Now he in the office crying. I can't believe he 356 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: got violent. They parents in there saying, what are you 357 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: gonna do about your child? About this child being violent? 358 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: It's like, my nigga, what you're gonna do is teach 359 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: your son shut his fucking mouth. Bullies all of a 360 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: sudden got a good sense of justice when somebody hit 361 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: him back. All of a sudden, they moral compass is clear. 362 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, they not the violent one. You 363 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: feel me, That's what see. So so let's just say, 364 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: even if it was not a blacks rule situation, what 365 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: the hell you think was gonna happen? You think people 366 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: just gonna let you tell they family apart. I'm not 367 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: even saying I'm with it. I'm not even saying I 368 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: agree with it, because a don't. Because again that just 369 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: ended with that man dying. What I'm saying is ain't 370 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 2: no way on God's on al Gore's Internet, on Beyonce's Internet. 371 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: Ain't nowhere in the world in black Jesus' experience would 372 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: anybody write anti ice class? What would re write on 373 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: them bullets? But on top of that, why would we 374 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: write on the bullets? 375 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: That's my favorite part. 376 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 2: And the next thing that's really giving black swoar is 377 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: these text messages with Tyler robbertson next, Okay, We're back, 378 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: we are so back. Man, y'all gotta download the Hommy 379 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Andy Mineo's new song. Man, He's got a song that's 380 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: a play on the return of the Mac. 381 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay back, we are so back. 382 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: So I just think it's very convenient that and it 383 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: really fits very neatly into a narrative that this shooter 384 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: was a left wing radicalist who would write anti ice 385 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: on the shell cases. The next thing is, okay, can 386 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: we just be the Rocky Apollo Creed Predator meme of 387 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: the White arm and the black arm shaking hands where 388 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: we finally actually agree on something. I feel like if 389 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: there is any time ever in my life that I 390 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: feel grossly surprised to you find yourself standing on your 391 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: side of the line and you see somebody you. 392 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Never thought you would see. 393 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: And the line that we standing in is the them 394 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: text ain't right line. And I'm looking over at Nick 395 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: motherfucking fuintes, I just like, Lord, forgive me for my 396 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: brass deliver. How the hell are we in the same 397 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: line right now? But as we know, our current government 398 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: is dead set on ending apparently just trans people just 399 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: ain't supposed to exist. I like, I just like feel 400 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: like at this point they used to go from ignoring 401 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: them to being like you, that's growth, stay away from me. 402 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: But now it's just like data problem. They don't exist. 403 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: Just y'all not supposed to be here. It just seemed 404 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: like that's just it. It's as I've never seen anything 405 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 2: like this in the sense that, like I understand racism 406 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: in a sense that it's just. 407 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Like you just hate us. 408 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: You hate us because of whatever reason something like like 409 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: Robert said we was talking yesterday, some people are just dicks. 410 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: Some people are just terrible. They just I don't know 411 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: why they're racist. They just I don't know where it 412 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: came from. Just some people are just trash. But the 413 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: history of anti blackness and self hate and all that, 414 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: and colorism, it's clear, like that's clear. I I and 415 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: I kind of understand how it plays out, you know, 416 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: Asian Hay, like I can wrap my mind around that, 417 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: the trans one. I just can't wrap my mind around 418 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: the conclusion. It's I'm just it's so bizarre to me 419 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: because the conclusion is. 420 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Just get rid of them. 421 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: And I'm like, which by any means like y'all just 422 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: they just you just want them to not be in 423 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: your world, like I like, but. 424 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: But they hear it's just so. 425 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: But anyway, it's they turned out whatever whatever they used 426 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: to pin on black people, like how is we getting like. 427 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: Why are HBCUs being threatened? What did we do? 428 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 2: Like? 429 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: How are we catching strays? 430 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: Somehow another you had to twist your way into saying 431 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: after that, I mean, just devilware is product white boy, 432 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 2: kill kill Joe Golden boy. You had to somehow another 433 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't even look, I expect you to try to 434 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: make him a leftist. What I ain't expect you to 435 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 2: do is try to somehow another twist this into trans ideology. 436 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: So it seemed to me very much black rules energy 437 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: that once you found out that that boy was not 438 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: as clear cut leftists as you wanted him to be 439 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: that it was much more complicated and for the and 440 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: again everybody wanted him to be on the other side 441 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: of the team, and for for the leftist circles that 442 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: he not just clear maga that boy is a gamer. 443 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: He not just a groper. We don't know, you know 444 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He not just in that thing. 445 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: It's so much gonna like these kids they be in. 446 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: All I know is he be in the darkest karters 447 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: of the internet. Based on the stuff that apparently y'all 448 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: so big on what people's inscribing on bullets, I just 449 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: it just feel like that's even giving to me. I 450 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: found a pound of marijuana and yo hoodie, my nigga, 451 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: who carries a pound of marijuana in the hoodie? Me? 452 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: It would make so much more sense. It was just 453 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: if I had some joints on me. Cops say he 454 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: found that AK forty seven, Like, where where did you 455 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: find an a? You understand I'm trying to say, I'm 456 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: talking about on us. I'm not talking about on this shooter. 457 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: But it just seemed very Black's rules energy. 458 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: When you look at these text messages, you know, the 459 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: text messages I'm talking about what you're trying to tell 460 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: me is that man got up there assembled a gun shot. 461 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: That boy got back down that thing ran and said, listen, 462 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm finna go text my girl, who apparently, according to y'all, 463 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: was used to be a man, and I'm gonna tell 464 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: her delete these messages. This don't sound like Black's rule 465 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: to you. Can we read the text? Thing, Robinson, drop 466 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: what you are doing and look under my keyboard, and 467 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: then this is Cordon Ruders. When the roommate looked under 468 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: the keyboard, there was a note that allegedly said I 469 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm 470 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: going to do it, and I'm going to take it. 471 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: So that's just written under that boy keyboard. And he 472 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: called his roommate to go get that note. Right, Robinson's roommate, 473 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: what you're joking? 474 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Right? 475 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: Robinson said, I am still okay, my love, but I'm 476 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: stuck in arm for a little while longer yet, I 477 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I 478 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: gotta grab. 479 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: My rifle still. 480 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: To be honest, I had hoped to keep this a 481 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: secret until I died of old age. I'm sorry to 482 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: involve you. You weren't the one who did it, right, Robinson, 483 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: I am I'm sorry. 484 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: This don't sound like. 485 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: That. Don't sound like Black's rule to you. That don't 486 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: sound like that boy that ain't nowhere in the world. Okay, 487 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: let's keep routing. I thought they roommate. I thought they 488 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: caught the person. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude. 489 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: They interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to 490 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but 491 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, 492 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: almost enough to get out, but there's a vehicle. 493 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: Lingering why why did you do it? Yeah? 494 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be 495 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: negotiated out. Roommate, How long have you been planning this? 496 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: A bit over a week. I believe I could get close, 497 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: but there's a squad car parked right in front of it. 498 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: I already swept that spot, but I don't want to 499 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: chance it. You are telling me listen again, my caveat. 500 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: This might be all true, and look it. It might 501 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: be there might be a single black man in Mississippi 502 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: that would write Black's Rule. 503 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: On the ground. I'm just saying it. 504 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: Show don't sound like this, really don't sound like, y'all 505 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: really will. 506 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Look Okay, you Joann, listen. I might be dead wrong. 507 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: Okay again I'm end this episode by saying I might 508 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: be dead wrong. I'm just saying all of this stuff 509 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: really sound like a pretense for what's happening right now for. 510 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: A green light. 511 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: And the reason why I feel very serious about like, man, 512 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: I think maybe this is just might be a green 513 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: light to do what they want to do is because. 514 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Of Charlie Kirk's funeral. 515 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: Because going from Erica Kirk, who I do not know, 516 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: so don't listen to me. 517 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: What do I know? 518 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: Going from Erica Kirk being like I forgive him to 519 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Trump being like I ain't forgiving shit. I do not 520 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: love my enemies. I hate my enemies. I am not 521 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: praying for those who spitefully use me. You can keep 522 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: the beatitudes, my g and I'm out here. We're gonna 523 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: go after them by y'all like somehow or another y'all 524 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: being completely okay with Stephen Miller's speech, which was like 525 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: this is unequivocally Nazi shit. It's just kind of like, 526 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: but you get to but you get to have a 527 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: green light on a serious note, awesome, like MS till 528 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: like that little black boy whistled at me. Right, and 529 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: once that little black boy whistled at you, guess. 530 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: What happened. 531 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: And man got drugged behind the car and then thrown 532 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: into some water. Why oh, because he whistled at me. 533 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: And what happened before that lady died. The lady that 534 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: said m mattil whistled at him, she admitted it was 535 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: a lie. Hm. I'm just saying, I don't know a 536 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 2: single person that would write anti Ice on the bullet 537 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: and I a damn show. 538 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I have never heard a single black person say blackswool 539 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: good politics. Y'all. 540 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod. 541 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: You better listen to these credits. I need you to 542 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay, 543 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded 544 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: in East Lost Boyle Heights by your boy Propaganda. Tap 545 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: in with me at prop hip hop dot com. If 546 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: you're in the Coldbrew coffee we got terraform Coldbrew. You 547 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: can go there dot com and use promo code hood 548 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: get twenty percent off get yourself some coffee. 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Still 558 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: killing the beats softly, So listen, don't let nobody lie 559 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: to you. If you understand urban living, you understand politics. 560 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: These people is not smarter than you. We'll see y'all 561 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: next week.