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Speaker 1: Before we get into our our positions. We got to

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Speaker 1: give out the cardio uh, the Cardio King Awards, which

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Speaker 1: go to the players that ran the most routes without

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Speaker 2: Kids were just running around?

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Speaker 2: You all ground me, you'll king. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there's actually a tie between the top tight end

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Speaker 3: the tight end was Adam Troutman nineteen routes, zero targets,

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Speaker 3: And the wide receiver was Keon Coleman, who had nineteen

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that was all about. And you

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Speaker 3: So let Coleman run a few more routes and you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get the bills. It seems like it

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Speaker 1: Who we got sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Let me see, I got Josh Allen, Dak Prescott, Drake May,

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Speaker 1: Oh Herbert back, you're over the hand injury with him? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm high on Tyler Shuck against the Giants, and you

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Speaker 3: on KYLEB. Williams against the Packers. You know, I still

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Speaker 3: I was always kind of worried about Caleb's fantasy playoff schedule.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's plenty of good options out there, like CJ.

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Speaker 2: To open the week with him as Mike QB twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's it's they still want to run the

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Speaker 2: For the prop h This is a fun one.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna do Philip Rivers passing yards, okay, and

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Speaker 3: the most rushing yards by you know, any running back

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Speaker 3: Trevion Henderson with one forty eight. So again, like right

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Speaker 3: with you, you know, I have Rivers closer to like one

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Speaker 2: It might. I think it's gonna be pretty close.

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Speaker 3: So this week I'm high on Tyrone Tracy, who's just

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Speaker 1: Commanders like that was a better place. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: He duke both guys. He drew both guys.

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Speaker 3: So I consider Tracy like, uh, you know, gay script

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Speaker 3: So he's a guy that I'm much much higher on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mention him on this pot, but I did

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Speaker 3: have him on like both touchdown shows, so plus two

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Speaker 1: Who you are back?

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Speaker 3: So I'm low on Kyen Williams against the Seahawks, just

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Speaker 3: you know, based on what I said about Blake Korum

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Speaker 1: Famous last words fading Kyrine. I'm never doing it again.

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Speaker 1: If you have if you.

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Speaker 3: Have Karen, you are playing him. But I mean, come on,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't Stafford always suck in the rain? Am I

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Speaker 3: getting him?

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Speaker 2: Somebody?

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Speaker 3: I think you have to play him if you have

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Speaker 3: last week. Yeah, those are like two key defenders in

435
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: run defense obviously via Vea, but he's healthy. Uh Like,

436
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 3: based on their availability is kind of how I'm kind

437
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 3: of projecting their their run defense, because like you said,

438
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: they can be one of the top in the league,

439
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: but they were just missing two key players last week,

440
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: which which hurt.

441
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, yeah, they've and it's that's what I mean.

442
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 1: They've been so banged up all year that there's been

443
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: games where they go into them healthy and then they

444
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: still get ran over. So it hasn't been as consistent.

445
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: But don't want to take chances in the you know,

446
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 1: week sixteen, I don't.

447
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Say that's right.

448
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's see running back prop. I guess we

449
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: gotta go Kyroen versus Korum, Like that's just who everyone's

450
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: talking about it.

451
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to.

452
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: We'll keep a simple and go rushing yard since neither

453
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 1: of them are usually a factor in the passing game.

454
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: Depends can depend on the week. But let's see last week,

455
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: what was it? Kiren had seventy eight and Quorum had

456
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: seventy one. Wow, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna make

457
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: kyrone a fourteen and a half yard favorite.

458
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: Damn. I was, Yeah, I have it like fifteen.

459
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, Like, obviously I'm a big Quorum guy,

460
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 3: but I was originally a ky I think Kyen's still

461
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: one of the better running texta. Like remember the game

462
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: we were at Thursday Football against the Raiders and I

463
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: was screen at McVeigh for playing cam Akers Malcolm Brown

464
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 3: three hundred pounds mountains.

465
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: It was Malcolm Brown.

466
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: It was Malcolm Brown.

467
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, over Kyen.

468
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, so, yeah, no, I have no

469
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: issue with Kien still being the lead back.

470
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's a good line. Man.

471
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the yards here, I'm gonna take the

472
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: fourteen and a half. But that's that's right where I

473
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 3: have it.

474
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: You gotta take Korum.

475
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take Korum.

476
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I'm trying

477
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: to think of it, like about three carries better, you know,

478
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: I can, yeah, in a practical sense, but like, yeah,

479
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: Korum has. The thing with Korum is if he's in

480
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: the game, if there's a bigger chance for like a blowout,

481
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: which means like he could get like more explosive runs

482
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: against the defensive doesn't carre water in the game, but

483
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: he could also get stuffed because they know it's a run.

484
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: But that never really happens to the Rams. They can

485
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: never seen me get stuffed.

486
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yen's Karen's typically still I mean, the it's just

487
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: kind of random. They just kind of rotate drive by drive, right,

488
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: So I still think Karen's more likely to be in

489
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: in goal line situation, so he just he typically has

490
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: less yards in front of him when he gets a carry.

491
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: So that's kind of my logic behind it. If you

492
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: look at if you look at success, right, I think

493
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: they're both like top two right now in the league,

494
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: which is insane.

495
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: Blocking scheme within that one three person now it was ridiculous.

496
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't, they don't, they don't get stuffed,

497
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: they're or they're like and then Pooka is like what

498
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: you would say, like top five receiver blocker in the league. Like,

499
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: so it's like they any time they got any any

500
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: passing formation, they are still like one of the best

501
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: run blocking Teams's crazy.

502
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean they're just both really good and

503
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: I think Kiren should be the clear big favorite here,

504
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'll take uh, I'll take horm here. Do

505
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 3: you have any opinions on like the side I saw

506
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: Stucky locked in the Seahawks, like it could be a

507
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: potential rare trailing game script for the Rams this week.

508
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested to hear Stucky's perspective on that. Like,

509
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at it too much yet, but I'm

510
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: the thing with me about the Seahawks is they've been

511
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: trending down. So I gotta go back and watch the

512
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: film Little closer like they doesn't seem like for the

513
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: past months month and a half, like Donald just hasn't

514
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: been as dominant. I think they had that one game

515
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: against the Falcons, but really it's been kind of a

516
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: struggle for them. Someone. You know, I'm on alert with

517
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: them because I like, this is Sam Donald against you know,

518
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: like the Shula who shut him down last year, Sam

519
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: Donald who had him melt down last year. So yeah,

520
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested. Stuff usually has a good perspective on

521
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: these like bounce back type of spots, so he's probably

522
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: on the right side. But yeah, I'm not there yet.

523
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: I have to uh, I gotta go back and see

524
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: more more with what they're doing with Donald.

525
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: They've been doing some interesting things like after Greg Olsen

526
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: kind of out of them, saying like, don't match their

527
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: heavy personnel with.

528
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that should have been out of you.

529
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 3: And then now they've been like they were extreme run heavy,

530
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: and now they've been four straight games now with the

531
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: pass ray over expected above average. And you know, they

532
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: they made Robbie a healthy scratch so that they're using

533
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: uh and Elijah Royo is on IR so they were

534
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: using Rashid Shaheed way more so they're more of like

535
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 3: a you know, pass first offense. But yeah, they've been

536
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 3: making subtle tweaks where they kind of change their identity

537
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: and Sam Donald's kind of struggling at the worst possible time.

538
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's I think it's gonna be a fascinating

539
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: Thursday night matchup.

540
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah it's yeah, it's oh yeah, it's answer third. Yeah,

541
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: that's that's that's really interesting. But yeah, I don't know,

542
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm not there with the not there Donald, and I

543
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: gotta go see what's going on with him, because I agree,

544
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: I think it's it's probably that that they're going that

545
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: those heavy formations their teams are starting to get onto those.

546
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: That was I mean, it should have been obvious, but

547
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: Olson really put it out there. He's like, yeah, just

548
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: match him down in distance. The need to just bring

549
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: like linebackers on the field. Exactly my third and long.

550
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, very true.

551
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: All right.

552
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Wide Receivers Top five Week sixteen.

553
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: I got Puka nakua a manra js N, Jamar Chase,

554
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: and Cede Lamb.

555
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got jays N still obligatory number one. Not

556
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: not gonna not moving off that yet. Took a number

557
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: two Chase three assuming Higgins is back, which is not

558
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: a guarantee that could flip off, although Adam's probably out,

559
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: so maybe Nicole will stay number two regardless. And then

560
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: yeah a Monra just a monster and yeah, same pretty

561
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: much same, just with a different order. Uh, all right?

562
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Who we like for receiver? We sixteen high?

563
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm high on Juwan Jennings because it sounds like,

564
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: you know, Ricky Pearsall could miss this week reaggravated Pearsaw?

565
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: Who yeah?

566
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: Who? Who has he? Has he been? Has he played

567
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: the season? Ricky Pearso Ricky Pearsall exactly didn't he?

568
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: Did he score last week? I mean he came back, right,

569
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: hasn't been healthy? And then he reaggravated that PCL injury. Yeah,

570
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: nine six catches, ninety six yards last week, thank you

571
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: very much.

572
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: But you got hurt.

573
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: And of course you got.

574
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: Your guy Brandon Ayuk that was being drafted, but wide

575
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: receiver forty one.

576
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: Was officially shut down.

577
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: So Jennings is heading into the fantasy playoffs like at

578
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: his ceiling projection and coming off a two touchdown game himself.

579
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: He now has six touchdowns in six games. You know,

580
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 3: he was dealing with injuries earlier in the season, so

581
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, he's peaking at the best possible time. So yeah,

582
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: he opens the week as my wide receiver eighteen. I

583
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: think he is a mid range wide receiver two must

584
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: start heading into the playoffs. Now they're at Indy and

585
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 3: you know, saus Gardner's questionable. I have no clue if

586
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: he's going to return this week. If he returns and

587
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: he's you know, one hundred percent, maybe we bumped down

588
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: jenn a little bit, but I'm not worried about.

589
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: That too much.

590
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: With my you know, Tuesday morning initial projections. We'll we'll

591
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: cross that bridge when we get there. But either way,

592
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: if you you know, if you've had Jennings on your team,

593
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: maybe haven't been you know, starting him over the past

594
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: two weeks, but I think this week we might be

595
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: able to trust him. So yeah, he's he's my wide

596
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: receiver eighteen to open the week.

597
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't It was like a non

598
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: contact injury the other like that he suffered, right, Yeah, like.

599
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: I thought I was worried it was achilles. It's his calf,

600
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: but it's one of those things where if they do

601
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: rush him back, got to be like very higher risk

602
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: to reaggravate it, then I'd be worried about what's up? Yeah, No,

603
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: I just be worried that he would like suffer more

604
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: significant injury if they rush him back. But yeah, I

605
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: was gonna, yeah, he's even if he returns, he might

606
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: not be one hundred percent.

607
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, that's like the most predictable

608
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: injury in sports is like the guy with the calf

609
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: injury who comes back too soon and the achilles or

610
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: something like that, and one of the most physical receivers.

611
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: What's up was that?

612
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Is that what happened with Haliburton? And I remember, like,

613
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: wasn't he playing through like a cafe.

614
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Katie having with Katie a captain calibert And it's it's

615
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: happened just a ton across both sports, Like really, it's

616
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: just it's that. And then Jennings is super physical, So

617
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd worry about him even in

618
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: him like that might be advantage Jennings if Gardener's trying

619
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: to cover him. So yeah, I think it's a good

620
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: spot for Jennings. I'm assuming he's good to go because

621
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: he did leave.

622
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: The game with an injury.

623
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: But Luther Burdon would be in a good spot against

624
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Green Bay. You know, he's the ECR wide receiver thirty four.

625
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: I think he would be a border one top twenty

626
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: five option. Looks great on film. Now again you got

627
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: to pay attention to the injury, so this could go

628
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: down midweek for me. But as of now, like Luther Burden, Uh,

629
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, eighty four yards and I think you mentioned

630
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: I go just like a little over a half against

631
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: the Browns. Pretty good, pretty good defense, all things considered,

632
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: cold weather game. So now you're going up against Green

633
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Bay somewhere, similar situation but more zones, you know, easier

634
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: for Burden to get open. I think it's on spot.

635
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: So like him, assuming he's good to go healthwise.

636
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you? Like? Uh?

637
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: I think it was that fourteen yard catch where he

638
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: just made like a great move to duke the cornerback.

639
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: But like, how hard are you in a long term

640
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: I keep trying to come up with a comp for him.

641
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: He's like a blend of like aman Ra Jsn and

642
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: like Rashi Rice. He's just like he has so much upside,

643
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: but he was buried on the depth chart. So I

644
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are overlooking him. But I

645
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: think he could be a stud you know maybe maybe

646
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: next year maybe.

647
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think he could. His his feeling is

648
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: probably something like a Manra. His his floor is probably

649
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: something like Exavier Worthy, I would say, where it's just

650
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: like hard to predict week two weeks. You know, like

651
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: he kind he could disappear and if there was like

652
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: like a dude, let's say a Dune to Day comes

653
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: back next year and he's like fully fleshed out into

654
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: a wide receiver alpha kind of wide receiver, and you know,

655
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: like they either upgrade DJ Moore, like DJ Moore comes

656
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: back as like the old DJ Moore. Like there's he

657
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: could be like a Worthy guy. But upside wise, I think, yeah,

658
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: a Monra try be a quicker a Manra though, like

659
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: a Monro fast, I'm fast. But I think he's he's

660
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: like an overall good receiver in my opinion, like he

661
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: just wraps everything. Burden has like some of that true

662
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: true speed. So yeah, but like so I think you

663
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: know what, matter of fact, remember Xavier Worthy during the

664
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: playoff run for the Chiefs last year, everyone out and

665
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: he was getting like those like five catches the game

666
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: at least, and then like goal line carries and like

667
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: goal line targets, like inside end zone targets like yeah,

668
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: that I think that's like Burden's like upside. Yeah, all right,

669
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: who are we long? Looks like another rookie loan this time.

670
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm ala on a Mecca Abuka, who again,

671
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: he's my wide receiver twenty four, so you're probably you know,

672
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: starting him if you have him, but he's.

673
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: You know, falling off a bit of late.

674
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things, you know, we were

675
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: just talking about Luther Burton where you know, he was

676
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: buried on the depth chart to start, even though he

677
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: does have a ton of upside. And you know, Buka

678
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: might be the top wide receiver from this year's class,

679
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: and he landed on a team where they had two

680
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: veteran receivers and Godwin and Mike Evans, but they both

681
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: missed you know, a handful of games now at the

682
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: at the same time, so he had, you know, just

683
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: a ceiling outcome right off the rip. So he was,

684
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, a wide receiver one in our ranks there

685
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: for you know, several weeks. But now you know, Godwin's back,

686
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: looks like he's healthy enough. Evans is back and he

687
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: looked great last week, and even Jalen McMillan was fully

688
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: healthy le week I was shot he had a what

689
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: fifty percent routes run rate? I know you had him

690
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: much higher than me, So, you know, fifty percent routes

691
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: run rate for McMillan. They still mixed in TZ a

692
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: little bit. So you know, a Bucah's routes run rate

693
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: was sixty three percent, which was much much lower than

694
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: we've seen, and he still managed you know, four catch

695
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: sixty four yard game because he is a very talented rookie,

696
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: but his floor is much much lower right now, and

697
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: even even Kate Atton might return, So you know, just

698
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: Abucah's closer to where I projected them heading into the season,

699
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: like a very good, you know, low end wide receiver two.

700
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: But we just have to remember that he was operating

701
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: at like peak usage there for a month or two,

702
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: right so, you know, a little bit lower on him

703
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: this week, but still you know, he's still probably startable

704
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: as my wide receiver twenty four. But just a good

705
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: reminder that these rookies, it's you know a mixture of

706
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: talent end situation, and he was just operating closer to

707
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: the ceiling early on and now he's gonna be closer

708
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: to his floor, which is still very very good, but

709
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: just it's gonna be tougher to produce with you know,

710
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: lower playing time, and it's gonna be tougher to command

711
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: targets with both you know, Godwin, Evans and even McMillan there.

712
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: So this week just I'm much much lower on him

713
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: than than I usually am.

714
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Where do you have Godwin? Just curious compared to.

715
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, out of the three, I mean, I still have

716
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: Buka the top, he's my wide receiver twenty four. Then

717
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: I have Evans wide receiver twenty six. Uh, and then

718
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: Godwin wide receiver thirty four. So yeah, Godwin's still on

719
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: that you know, fringe wide receiver three four.

720
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Where do you have him? Yeah?

721
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: I have Godwin the lowest, like like borderline, but funny,

722
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: Evans I do have a little higher, not as high

723
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: as consensus. So if you ranked Evans there, you'd be

724
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: like minus fifty twenty on consents.

725
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: He's really receiver, right, And I was like, I was

726
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: like plus ten on easier last week. Everybody was like, Wow,

727
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: you have Evans wide receiver twenty six.

728
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: That's that's bold.

729
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, what it's Mike Evans, Like what are where

730
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: are you supposed to rank him?

731
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I was the most concerning, right, Like

732
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: what you say he needed the most routes to do,

733
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: like he saved himself with a touchdown essentially, Yeah, exactly.

734
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Godwin's probably the Yeah, if we want to go

735
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: true like lowest, it's god He'd be very hard to

736
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: trust this week because he has to compete against Mike

737
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: Evans now and a Mecca Buka, who I'm still high

738
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: on as a talent. But I think just big picture,

739
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: it's just a lesson of these wide receivers as rookies.

740
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: You know that they all have different talent levels obviously,

741
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: but they're all in different situations and that can change

742
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: kind of how we perceive them. And I'll address that

743
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: with you know, Tyler Warren and Colson Loveland, same thing

744
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: where everybody kind of pivoted, like, you know, Warren is

745
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: way better than Loveland. That's not very that's not true.

746
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: They're both very similar in talent, they just had completely

747
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: different situations to start their career. So I think it

748
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: just kind of shifts how people perceive them just based

749
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: on you know, their first few games as a rookie,

750
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: and I think that's that's where people can kind of

751
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: get in trouble.

752
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. It's it's a long season. I mean, guys

753
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: who's you know, started off good are kind of coming

754
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: back down to earth. It's it's a very long season.

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I'm low on Terry McLaurin. I'm

756
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: just gonna I think I'm just gonna take the rains

757
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: from you. You know, a week too early, I think maybe,

758
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: and go, I think you're a lone o lastic. I'm

759
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: not sure. But against Philly, want no parts against the Giants. Fine.

760
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't running as many routes as we

761
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: expected coming into that game. They end up again just

762
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: breaking the Giant's ankles. I think in this one because

763
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: he couta passed, I want to say it was like

764
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty yards out of from the go on, it

765
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: ended up getting in. So that's not gonna happen every game,

766
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: especially against Philly. Mark Mariota didn't do much last week.

767
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: We saw what Philly did to pick it. I mean,

768
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: just absolutely nothing for them. So his defense is gonna

769
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: step up, and even with zach ertz out I'm still

770
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: not not on any commander receiver against the Eagles. So

771
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: McLaurin is still the wide receiver twenty in an ECR.

772
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's a carryover from last week. But yeah, yeah,

773
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a wide receiver three, you know,

774
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: just on the just because he's their wide receiver one.

775
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: But not that's too excited about him this week. All right,

776
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: we're we doing prop.

777
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: So I don't think we've touched on this yet, but

778
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is done torn ACL so it's gonna be

779
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew under center. So I have Xavier Rorthy weighed

780
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: down in my ranks, but let's do Rashid Rice receiving

781
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: yards and just your thoughts on him. I think we

782
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: can still trust him as a starter, but like where

783
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: you have him ranked. But I'm gonna set his receiving

784
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: yards prop at man, this is tough. I'm gonna set

785
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: it at fifty six and a half.

786
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I'm gonna go under. I think he's in.

787
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: They could be in trouble. I mean, this is still

788
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: a game they could win, and so they could be

789
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, like a good game script. But Rice is

790
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: not He's like not a complete receiver. He's more more

791
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: of like a underneath kind of guy you get the

792
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: ball to in space. It's like now with with Minshew,

793
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: like who knows what the game plan is, Like is

794
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: he gonna chuck it more? Is he gonna just are

795
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: they gonna, you know, scheme up more for Worthy? Like

796
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and they're kind of out of it. They're out of

797
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: it essentially at this point. They're they're done. So yeah,

798
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: So I mean, like do they even give Rice. That's

799
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: because they've Rice. They've always been careful with It's playing

800
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: time too, right, He's never He's only hit that like

801
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: ninety plus a couple of times. I remember we were

802
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: talking about that earlier when he first came back. So yeah,

803
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: just too many kind of red flags with Rice. I

804
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: could see him just like disappearing from the game point

805
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: all together too. So yeah, I'm gonna under.

806
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: Man, I was afraid to take the under there.

807
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Where do you have ranked like wide receiver twenty four?

808
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

809
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: So people, people you know, sacrificed what first six games

810
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: to have him for the rest of the season. Yeah,

811
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: he's still yeah, he's still a wide receiver too, but

812
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: still just not not the smash play we were hoping

813
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: for and yeah, like with the season done, like why

814
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: even risk someone like him to you know, suffer season

815
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: and injury That kind of you know, limits him next year,

816
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: Like you might see someone like Jalen Royals get playing

817
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: time down the stretch.

818
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's what I'm afraid they have. They have

819
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: me heo that never gets snaps on receiver. They could

820
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: use him. They have like seven receivers they could play.

821
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: They have. This could be a big tight end game,

822
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, because it's the Titans. There's just a lot

823
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: of outcomes. And then you know there's like Worthy's been quiet.

824
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: Maybe they just try to get guys numbers, you know, Worth,

825
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: he's been quiet this year. I don't know, it's just

826
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: there's too many, Like the Chiefs are always hard to trust,

827
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: Like Rice was kind of an outlier and that he

828
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: was super consistent most of the year, but that was

829
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: with my home So yeah, all right.

830
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I feel really bad at my about my prop.

831
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: If so if a sportsbook opens his prop at fifty

832
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: six and a half.

833
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, something, Yes, I'm usually not ready to bet receiving

834
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: props and like like Wednesday, but yeah, if he's if

835
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that.

836
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

837
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I honestly I.

838
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 3: Always tell people I'm like rayvaugh and I are way

839
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: too busy to like sit there scanning the opening market.

840
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: We I typically wait because they it's lower limits when

841
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: they open. Yeah, you know, I'm busy with Thursday and football.

842
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: But usually the Discord knows the players we talk about

843
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: on here, So yeah, definitely, uh, Discord or if you're

844
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: on Twitter, tag us if you know Rice's prop is

845
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: up and it's let's say it's sixty and a half

846
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: or something, definitely let us know we might be interested

847
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: in taking the under on that immediately.

848
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, ess, actually he could get he

849
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: averages like under eleven yards of catch, so like five

850
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: catches still doesn't technically get him there, right, Like it's

851
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's especially with Minshew. So yeah, yeah,

852
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: anytime you're looking at like a guy needing to catch

853
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: like six balls for an eliminated team, like, yeah, I'm

854
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna get true unless it's Michael Wilson. Less, it's Michael

855
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Wilson very true. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I don't know,

856
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: it's he's tough to get a feel for. That's that is,

857
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: that's a good line. But I think just just the

858
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: fact that he's not like a true like deep receiver,

859
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: like he's most of the stuff is underneath. Yeah, I

860
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: don't feel good about the under tight end who were

861
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: like top five.

862
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: Uh, Trey McBride, George Kittle, Kyle Pitts, and Harold Fannin Jr.

863
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Just ahead of Bruck Bowers. So that's my top five.

864
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fan actually number six. I got McBride, Kittle, Pitts, Bowers,

865
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Godard for now, but I could could see myself going

866
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: Fan and the Bills have been really good against traditional

867
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: tight ends. Fan is more of a slot, so it

868
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: doesn't apply as much. I might have to adjust adjust

869
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: the matchup rank a little bit as we go throughout

870
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: the week, but yeah, right now it's got it. I

871
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: like what they're like, how they're kind of giving him

872
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: the touch push plays. It's just like, all right, instead,

873
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: we're just gonna throw and it's gonna be got it

874
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: so that we get hurt some confidence and he drop

875
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: you see drop one should have had three three ties last.

876
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: No, I know. Yeah, yeah, I finally hit on him

877
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 2: on the Touchdown Show.

878
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: I keep saying he too, but yeah, yeah, he's he's

879
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 3: in a good spot right now.

880
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay, who are you high on.

881
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm high on Darren Waller. Uh.

882
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 3: Just coming off a massive seven catch, sixty six yard,

883
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: two touchdown game against the Steelers.

884
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Uh. Very fortunate to not like have a major injury.

885
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: Uh he had that catch for his knee and ankle

886
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: got like twisted up, but he bounced right up, Thank God.

887
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, that was scary. But now he

888
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: gets to face the Bengals this week. So he's an

889
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 3: instant tight end one in my model tight end eleven.

890
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: And you kind of hinted on this, but you know,

891
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely just both bombed against the

892
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: Bengals last week. But the contact matters that the Ravens

893
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: won easily. What was a twenty four to nothing. Derrick

894
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: Henry and Keaton Mitchell just both went bonkers. And you know,

895
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: Flowers was the pass catcher that got you know, the

896
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: early production. And then I think the Bengals, like Ran,

897
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: I think they had like fifteen minutes of possession in

898
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, like the Ravens offense didn't even get

899
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: the ball for some reason. The Bengals just had methodical

900
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: drive after methodical drive.

901
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Picked I think like that.

902
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had a fifteen play, ten minute drive

903
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: for some reason down you know, two scores or whatever,

904
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: and then Burrow through a pick six and then they

905
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: just had another methodical drive.

906
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 2: So it's like the Ravens didn't have the ball.

907
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: They had a big lead, so where where the hell

908
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: was like Andrews and likely supposed to get their production.

909
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: So it was just a.

910
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: Fluppy game where no, the Bengals defense is now all

911
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: of a sudden better against tight ends. That's just that's

912
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: what happens sometimes. So anyways, you know, the Dolphins are

913
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: minus one, the totals fifty and a half. This could

914
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: be more of a back and forth shootout. So I

915
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: think Waller just has a massive ceiling. So yeah, he

916
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: opens the week as my tight end eleven with you know,

917
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 3: obviously a ton of upside based on this matchup.

918
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, is he gonna is he on the injury report?

919
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Like is he gonna appear on the injury port?

920
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: Who knows? If?

921
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, if he does run and pick up Greg Dulcic,

922
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: who might still have like a good game even Faller's.

923
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: Healthy, but no, Waller, Waller's fine.

924
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: I think he scored a touchdown after that play too, right, Okay,

925
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's one of those ones where like it

926
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: could have been bad, but he popped right back up.

927
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 3: It was just fortunate that, you know, he didn't hurt

928
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 3: anything there, but it definitely looks scary at the time.

929
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: No, I always I'm always like cautus with war just

930
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: because you know, if they're eliminated. And I remember him

931
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: saying like he just wanted to retire after he had

932
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: to throw a block last year or something like that,

933
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, man, I hope he's not, like

934
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: if he doesn't pop up like on the injury report

935
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: or something like that, but yeah, if he's good to go. Yeah,

936
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: this Bengals team, like Joe Burrow is like, maybe he

937
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: just needs T Higgins because with his YPA he just

938
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: keeps sinking. Yeah, I'm high on a Gadsden again. He's

939
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: eco tight in fourteen. I think last week he was

940
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: like tight end twenty or something. It's kind of crazy, like,

941
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: I know, I know the Chargers had some issues Herbert

942
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: hand all that stuff, but Gaston's still their wed tight end.

943
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: If anything, they're the backfield is harder to project now

944
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: because it's like they're kind of splitting splitting snaps. But

945
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: I think Gaston, you know, is has the potential to

946
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: be like a tight end one overall, and he wiki

947
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: suits up. Herbert's getting healthier. Quentin Johnson, I guess is

948
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: banged up.

949
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: Now.

950
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: We'll see how that progresses as the week goes. But

951
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: either way, Dow's defense that plays a ton of his

952
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: own coverage and you're going to Dallas, so it's even.

953
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: It's not it's not in so far, but it's in

954
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: a similar type of you know, not weatherless environment here.

955
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: I think we want to go back to Gatson once again.

956
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: Who are you low on?

957
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm low on Tyler Warren again?

958
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: Unfortunately? Who I mean he opens this week as my

959
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: tight end twenty. You know last week I was saying,

960
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: like he's opening as my tight end seventeen. I have

961
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: no clue what to expect when it comes to rivers.

962
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: You know, probably still gets a high target share, which

963
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: was the case. He saw a target on twenty two

964
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: percent of his routes he had. I think it was

965
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: a season.

966
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: High routes run rate, right, ninety six percent routes run.

967
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: Rate, So just really good usage, but just based on

968
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: the lack of passing production. He only had three catches

969
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: for nineteen yards, and it was actually a mir Abdullah

970
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: who really benefited from Rivers Rando. I mean five catches

971
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: thirty two yards let the team and receiving, but it

972
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: was targeted on eighty three percent of Rivers dropback, so

973
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: clearly Rivers was just in checkdown mode. So that's not great.

974
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, what are we doing here? How can

975
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: you trust Tyler Warren in your fantasy playoffs?

976
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: This week? You can't write? Where do you have ranked.

977
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Tight end seventeen?

978
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have Gatson, you know, pushing tight end

979
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: one value, which I agree with you. I have, yeah, yeah,

980
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: and I have So I have Loveland ranked ahead of

981
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 3: Warren as well because I'm again I'm assuming a dune

982
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: day's out, which is obviously yeah, best case scenario for Loveland.

983
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: So with that context, so I have Lovelin and Gatson

984
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: ranked ahead of Warren, who, again, at the beginning of

985
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: the year was absolutely a top five tight end because

986
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: he was in an ideal situation.

987
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: The Colts needed a tight end. He was their only

988
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: tight end.

989
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: But now the courting the quarterback situation makes it you

990
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: can't trust him, and that's just important when it comes

991
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: to these rookies, where you know, the situation is just

992
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: as important sometimes if not more important, than the talent itself.

993
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: I still think Warren's going to be a top five

994
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: tight end for years to come, but right now you

995
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: just cannot trust them. So if you know Darren Waller,

996
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Aronda Gadston, other guys are available, Kolbe Parkinson, like all

997
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: these guys, you should be starting over Tyler Warren. And

998
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 3: it sucks because he was so good for so long,

999
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: but it's just almost impossible to trust him and must

1000
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: win territory now that we're in the fancy playoffs.

1001
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were drafting, like you said, when those

1002
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: like mid round, like if you drafted like anger them,

1003
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren or in that range, it's like it's you're

1004
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: definitely going to scream somebody likes in that range, right

1005
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: oh yeah, right, yeah yeah yeah. Andrews, Yeah, disappeared too. Technically,

1006
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: well that's.

1007
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: The full Andrews experience though. Right when you mention him,

1008
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna score two touchdowns. But that again, that's the point.

1009
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: You don't need to spend like any draft capital on

1010
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: these guys. Just every week there's guys that you know

1011
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: pop up is top five tight the guy that we've

1012
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: been screaming about all year long.

1013
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 2: Harold Fannon Junr. Top five tight end this week.

1014
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm avam six, but yeah point taking.

1015
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: He didn't include him in the Rookie ran. Yeah it

1016
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: was Harold fan and Jr. Top five tight end this week.

1017
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: I think we talked about him. I think on the

1018
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: waivers probably we were saying that, like, there's a chance

1019
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: he could end up being like the top rookie tight end.

1020
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Still went like this is back into like the middle

1021
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: of the year. So yeah, we've been on We've been

1022
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: on that. I'm going on Mike Giseki. I just wanted

1023
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: to kind of touch on him because he's he popped

1024
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks ago, and then you know,

1025
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: everyone's excited about him and then he comes out and

1026
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: does nothing and I think kill like, I don't think

1027
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: you could trust him, especially if we'll see if T.

1028
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: Higgins is back. If T Higgins is back, you know,

1029
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: that really lowers the chance that he can be like

1030
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: that number, that slot receiver type of type of guy.

1031
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: But even so, I mean, there's just this Bengals offense.

1032
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna go through chase and then there's touchdown. Wise,

1033
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: it could be any of these tight ends, So I'm good.

1034
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: I know Gas sick, he popped a couple of weeks ago.

1035
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: He's got a revenge game going, but he still tighten eighteen,

1036
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: which is like you know, I mean tight end eighteen

1037
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: is still like he's still it's still like Ferguson's like

1038
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: tight end sixteen, like Henry Andrews. Like, there's a lot

1039
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: of these guys in that range that I think you'd

1040
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: start over him, So he should be nowhere near there

1041
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: this week. I think he's more outside the top the

1042
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: top twenty four.

1043
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, yeah, Higgins' status obviously unpacks him because he's

1044
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 3: gonna or playing time if Higgins is out, but no

1045
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: offense also questionable. So if like Higgins n Fant are

1046
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: both out, let's say best case snarow for Gasiki, would

1047
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 3: you still not have him, you know, inside your top

1048
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: two twelve.

1049
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: Because I think it's I think he's more of a

1050
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 1: slot receiver, so it's Higgins probably still impact some more,

1051
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: but also there's like sample sometimes gets like sixty percent routes, right,

1052
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: and then you got Tanner Hudson. They have five tight

1053
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: ends active. I think Brandy's is active, so yeah, in

1054
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: that situation, I can't bump him too much. I just

1055
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to rely on him as a starter as

1056
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: a top twenty four. Like I think there's with all

1057
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: the like the good tight ends getting knocked down, like

1058
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: at that point, I'd probably just take my chances with

1059
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: Tyber Warren, you know what I mean, like just uh,

1060
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: there's just there's just too many other guys. But uh, yeah,

1061
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: let's see prop Let's go Mark Andrews versus Tyler Warren.

1062
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: I make Andrews a seven and a half yard favorite.

1063
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: Colts are healthy, shud eaten status has zero impact probably

1064
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 3: on my Andrews projections. So yeah, that's that's pretty close.

1065
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: I think that I would say that Warren still has

1066
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: a higher floor, so I think in this situation, I

1067
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 3: would take the yards and Andrews obviously has a much

1068
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: better chance to score a touchdown. So that's that's why

1069
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 3: I have Andrews ranked, you know, higher, but yeah, for yards,

1070
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 3: I'll take the yards here.

1071
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: But that's that's a.

1072
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Good census consensus has Andrews eighteen, Warren eleven. So wow,

1073
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: it's really well and andrew That's it's interesting.

1074
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, well I where do you have Andrews?

1075
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, I like him right now.

1076
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: But twelve, Like, yeah, I'm not too low on him.

1077
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean I might get lowers. I don't know I

1078
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: have them.

1079
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just either way higher than Warren. But again,

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Speaker 3: I think it's just the market is just you know,

1081
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: Warren good me rke him, me rank him high. It's

1082
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: just it's like, yeah, it's way more complicated than that. Like,

1083
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: is he maybe the best rookie tight end?

1084
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: Maybe? Well, I think it's available maybe.

1085
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Fanning makes a case.

1086
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: I think Fannon is low key has been bawling out.

1087
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he would landed in a weird situation where

1088
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: we had David Joker there and it doesn't even mattered.

1089
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Fannin might be the man.

1090
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 3: And bad quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks and bad quarterbacks. Yeah see,

1091
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 3: I mean he's overcome a lot to get to this point.

1092
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: And I still think Lovelin might actually be the best

1093
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,600
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1094
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,960
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1095
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: but the situation right now is so bad.

1096
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: I just can't. I can't get there.

1097
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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well that is going to do it.

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