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Speaker 1: a big breed. Hey o, and welcome to No Dounk's

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Speaker 1: probably a part of the Athletic Podcast Network. It's April nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm your host, Trey Kirby alongside me

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Speaker 1: a man who will absolutely catch you snacking on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: It's Task Melice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I tweeted Jared Greenberger, our old friend who was

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Speaker 2: just behind head coach Mike Brown. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Quick on his mouth toes, but not quick enough for

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Speaker 1: task Melice. He'll get you. We've also got the man

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen. It's JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello. Hello.

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Speaker 1: He said shows have been too long this week, said

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Speaker 1: he wants a nice, tight sixty today, a simple show,

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Speaker 1: very little graphical elements today, so we're gonna keep it

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Speaker 1: tight today. You may notice no skeets. I heard he's

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Speaker 1: doing the Iditarod today. Yeah, fifty year anniversary since it started.

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Speaker 1: should be exciting for him. They'll be back tomorrow, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, she makes it on some of

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Speaker 1: But it's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man's got a race it do. Oh. In other

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Speaker 1: sports news, Test Mellis hosted a podcast today. It's called

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Speaker 1: No Buns. It's on the Athletic Baseball Show feed. I

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Speaker 2: Whisperer today, Seb Winkler, the Yeast Whisperer tray. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: brews beers down at the Brave Stadium. There's some beer

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Speaker 2: job at IMO. A lot of GP chat GPT talk today.

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Speaker 2: A ton of it. It's somehow, somehow we had Joel

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Speaker 2: It was a good show, incredible stuff. Joel is gonna love.

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Speaker 2: Today's tweet of the night. That's a that's an AI

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Speaker 2: ts for you. A little bit later on the schedule

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Speaker 2: last night, only three games.

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Speaker 1: We got a little bit of news. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tackle things by conference today. Sure, starting in the West.

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Speaker 1: That never happens, never always Eastern Conference first, but not today.

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Speaker 1: We're starting out West, where Devin Booker scored thirty eight

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Speaker 1: to one. Task What stuck out to you from the

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Speaker 2: The Sons are going to have more firepower. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: what happened in this game. Durant continued to get doubled

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Speaker 2: Booker just broke out. He was scorching to get to

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Speaker 1: Really what it was, Yeah, this to me was kind

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Speaker 1: On the second half. The Suns ended up shooting twenty

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Speaker 1: This was a Suns kind of basketball game. Well done, yeah, Phoenix, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we all thought.

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Speaker 2: What happened. We just said, these guys on this team,

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Speaker 2: they looked way better. And I think everything that Monty

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Speaker 1: Were times when it looked like DeAndre Ayton was the

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Speaker 1: I was a little worried with Aton's game the way

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Speaker 1: it defensively as well. That was a really impressive win

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Speaker 1: from him. I think the big story after Game one

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Speaker 2: This one, Well, you mentioned some of the bench guys.

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Speaker 2: The Clippers are supposed to have the bench advantage. They

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Speaker 2: but they're supposed to win the bench matchup. Suns fared

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, baby, it definitely does. And you said they

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Speaker 2: hard did he stomp on DeMont Deesabons? And yes, it

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Speaker 2: didn't do himself any favors by running over and mouthing

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Speaker 2: I do think it. Obviously it helps that they're going home.

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Speaker 2: stomp in in in NBA history, a Skola love stomp

430
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Speaker 2: between those two, but I really do think there was

431
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: gray area in this one that that it's it's hard

432
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: to really figure out what kind of grasp Sabona's had

433
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: on that ankle. He makes it seem like he just

434
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 2: fell there. And yeah, I mean he did the the

435
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: Draymond also stomping, and as you said yesterday, clicking his

436
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 2: heels as he went away, didn't help him. There's there's there,

437
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: There's so much to break down, and it's just difficult

438
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 2: to actually really know. But that's so that's why. Yeah,

439
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: if if you don't know, you give the guy who's

440
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: done it before a game, and I'm totally fine with that.

441
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: I do think them being down two zero is just

442
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 2: such such a big motivator for them though obviously this

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: is their season, right, so they go home for the

444
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: first time that a crowd that they've played in front of,

445
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: you could easily see them winning.

446
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, that should be a must win

447
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: game for the Warriors in the Chase Center. That's gonna

448
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: be That's gonna be a big task, I think for

449
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 1: the Kings to come out and look as great as

450
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Speaker 1: they have in the first two games. And honestly, kudos

451
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Speaker 1: to the Kings. They look like they're playing in their

452
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth playoff series or whatever it may be that

453
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: the Warriors are at, but sticking with that series. A

454
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Speaker 1: little more news, though not a big surprise, but the Kings.

455
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Speaker 1: Darren Fox was named the first ever Kia Clutch Player

456
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Speaker 1: of the Year for the twenty two twenty twenty three season,

457
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Speaker 1: taking home the Jerry West Trophy after leading the league

458
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Speaker 1: in clutch points. He beat out Jimmy Butler, who finished second,

459
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Speaker 1: and Damar DeRozan, who finished third. Feels like Fox has

460
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: had this locked up for months, to be quite honest,

461
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: but he ended up winning this quite handle. He got

462
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Speaker 1: ninety one of the first place votes. The second highest

463
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Speaker 1: vote total or second highest first place votes task do

464
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Speaker 1: you know.

465
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Speaker 2: What it was? Wasn't it? No? It wasn't no.

466
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Speaker 1: Derozean finished third. He got no first place votes, but

467
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: Steph Curry got two first place votes, one first place

468
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Speaker 1: for Jimmy Butler and then one as well for Brunson, Embiid, Donovan, Mitchell, Shay, Gilgess,

469
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: Alexander and Luka Doncic. Kyrie Irving also somehow got a

470
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Speaker 1: first place vote.

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Speaker 2: I thought it would be Yeah, that's that's I mean,

472
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Speaker 2: that was yah. He is kind of he was pretty cleo.

473
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Speaker 2: He's had some good fourth quarters that he's a great.

474
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Speaker 1: Fourth quarter player. But I don't know if clutch is

475
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Speaker 1: what I would describe this Kyrie Irving season.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I think that voter probably just went

477
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Speaker 2: with the old who do you want to give the

478
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: ball to? In a fourth quarter question? While the majority

479
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: of it. Of the voters looked at the stats, and

480
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is going to be sort of

481
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Speaker 2: a stat influenced award.

482
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Speaker 1: It was the top three clutch point scores in Fox

483
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Speaker 1: Butler Hendrosen.

484
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Derozen was second, And so that's why I

485
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: guess I figured he was second because after looking through

486
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 2: the stats and seeing Dumar, you know, being thirty five

487
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: points behind uh Fox, if we want to get we

488
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: want to get technical bit about it. Thirty five points

489
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Speaker 2: behind the leader in clutch points. It seems like a

490
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Speaker 2: pretty big gap. And I just didn't think coming into

491
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Speaker 2: this season, the first time we're awarding this award, that

492
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: it would have anything to do with stats. But it

493
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: sure feels that way to some degree, And I think

494
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: that's okay actually, that the people would go to NBA

495
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: dot com and figure out that this guy was a

496
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: monster with nearly two hundred clutch time points, I think

497
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Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to wrap your head around what

498
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Speaker 2: that means. So I went to this stat he had

499
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: twenty six fourth quarters of at least ten points that

500
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: led the NBA by far, and he shot fifty three

501
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: percent in those clutch time moments. So the clutch time

502
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: moments within five points the last five minutes of a game.

503
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Speaker 2: A game that's within five points in the last five

504
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: minutes a game, that's what those minutes are. And he

505
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: had two buzzer beaters, and yeah, he was phenomenal. So yeah,

506
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: it is weird that number one. I think that this

507
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: award has entered the lexicon of all of us and

508
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: we talk about it like it's been around for a

509
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: bit and we're and we like it because I thought

510
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year sort of seemed gimmicky, but

511
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: if it's based on stats, it isn't gimmicky. And especially

512
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: the guy that gave it to earned every and and

513
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I guess it's going to be earned every year because

514
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: NBA players are really good.

515
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Speaker 1: It is going to be a clutch guy. Yeah, as

516
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: long as going to be somebody, As long as it

517
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone to Kyrie this year. You make a

518
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: good point about that, as long as it's not some

519
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: weird Hey, let's just give it to the guy that

520
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: you know we all want the ball in his hands

521
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, Like, yeah, right, Sports

522
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: talk is like, that's the question, who do you want

523
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: the ball in the hands? And usually it's like Kobe,

524
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, historically speaking, So yeah, you could easily see

525
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: a world like in the in the early two thousands

526
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: if this existed, where just Kobe Bryant gets it every

527
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: single year because you assume he's the most clutched guy.

528
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: But the way the voting went down between Fox having

529
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: the stats to back it up and the game winners

530
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: to back it up as well, I wonder if that

531
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: was playing in voters' minds. Dear and Fox hitting a

532
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: game winning three pointer against the Chicago Bulls and Demarto

533
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: Rosen I'm clutching him when it mattered the most late

534
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: in the season. Perhaps that factored into the vote. I'm

535
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: just bummed that they didn't have this award last year

536
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: because DeRozan would have got it because he did the Yeah,

537
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: he was Fox last year basically for the Balls still

538
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: had a decent season this year. I was a little

539
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: sad though. This morning I was listening to the Hoop

540
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: Collective podcast and Kirk Goldsberry scooped me because he compared

541
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: Daron Fox to Tony Parker, and I thought I was

542
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna be all smart coming in here talking about how

543
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: they both use their speed to get to their spots

544
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: and are great scores from the two point range despite

545
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: being one of the smaller guys on the court. But

546
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: shout out to Kirk Goldsberry. That guy's that guys smart.

547
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: He knows a lot about shot location data. So he

548
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: beat me to the punch, just like the Aaron Fox

549
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: beats most players to his spot for a mid duranch jumper.

550
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: What about the three point shooting?

551
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: He did hit a game winning three pointer against the

552
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Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls.

553
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeed, that wasn't a TP. That wasn't a TP.

554
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't any Parker think specialty.

555
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: He got better, He got better at a shot. Well,

556
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: he was forced to shoot a little bit at the

557
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: end of the squirre, but he never did so. I

558
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe you can one up Kirk Goldsbury. Can

559
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: you add in a he's Tony Parker And I'll think

560
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: about it.

561
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I'll think about it during the break here and when

562
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: I come back, I'm gonna have the sickest analogy that

563
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: Kirk Goldsberry could only dream of. Stick around back with

564
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: no dunks. But I just want to say that Darren

565
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Fox to me, is a lot like if you mix

566
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: Tony Parker with Manou Genobli. He's left handed. That's all

567
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: I got. That's all I got. I saw that Tony

568
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Parker's career three point percentages thirty two point four percent. Really,

569
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: He'll never guess what Daron Fox is shooting from three

570
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: this season.

571
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Tests thirty two point.

572
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't go to the full tesimals. I saw

573
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Speaker 1: thirty two point four.

574
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

575
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: Wow. Darren Fox is our generation's Tony Parker. Who saw

576
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: that coming? No one? No one saw that left handed.

577
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: So I'll mix in with Mano Genobili. Of course, Kirk

578
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Goldsberry's comparing him to a spur. Not a surprise in

579
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: my Hey, Yeah, that's a good call. Let's ad east,

580
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: or at least to the Midwest. As the Cavaliers got

581
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: thirty two points from Darius Garland to tie things up

582
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: in their series against the New York Knickerbockers, script was

583
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: flipped in this game test. Tell me about it.

584
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think the Cavs were watching the Kings a

585
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: little bit. They came out alive. I mean the perimeter

586
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: defense was alive, pushing up a little bit further out.

587
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. They tried dunking on people. Oh yeah,

588
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: like the Kings did a couple times in the first court.

589
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter if the dunk didn't happen. The effort was there.

590
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, you said Darius Garland, who had an efficient

591
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: shooting night in Game one, seven to thirteen, seventeen points overall,

592
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: But he got way more aggressive. There was just a

593
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: lot more aggression in this one. He beat that seventeen

594
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: in the first half. He had twenty six in the

595
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: first half alone on ten field goal attempts. That's a

596
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: ridiculous percentage two point six per shot. Yeah, he had

597
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: a nice night, thirty two overall. I think people do

598
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: forget that he is a far better three point shooter

599
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: than Daron Fox or Tony Parker. Ever, was that guy

600
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: leads that calves in three point shooting had a fifty

601
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: point game this season when he had ten threes. The

602
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: guy can stroke it. But he wasn't himself. You were

603
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: calling for it yesterday. He wasn't himself in Game one.

604
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: There needed to be a little bit more aggression. I

605
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: think that aggression from a fourth year player in Garland

606
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: out a second year player in Mobiley who got a

607
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: little bit better shots. He wasn't awesome in terms of

608
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: executing a lot. He didn't need to score, but he

609
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: got some of his touch back. He was six of

610
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: eleven in this one at least instead of four thirteen,

611
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: so I think that helped out. And also, yeah, everybody

612
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: just shot a little bit. But Caroslvert was awesome in

613
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: this game. He came off the bench and led the

614
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: team in minutes because they went away from Isaac Accorro

615
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: and he had twenty four off the bench. Yeah, that's

616
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: what LeVert is. Bad one in the first one, good

617
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: one in the second one. Everybody sort of just felt better. Yeah.

618
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: One O deficit will do that to you, Trey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. This is this was honestly what the

620
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: playoffs is all about. Knicks were much better in the

621
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: first half of the game. They brought playoff intent or

622
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: the first game game one as they call it. They

623
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: brought playoff intensity. They were the tougher team. They looked

624
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: like the deeper team. So the Cavs responded in playoff

625
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: fashion by being the bigger, tougher team I thought last night.

626
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, Garland set the tone basically from the beginning.

627
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: He didn't take a shot right away, but once he

628
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: got rolling, you could see the impact that all of

629
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: his teammates and all of his coaches saying, hey man,

630
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: let it fly, go shoot. You gotta be one of

631
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: our better scorers out there. You could see the way

632
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: that transpired and the way he was just getting downhill

633
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: all the time in the first half, I thought was

634
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: super impressive. Nearly threw it down on Isaiah Hartenstein. That

635
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: would have been a monster dunk. Clearly, it would have

636
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: been the best dunk of Darius Garland's career, considering an

637
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: can't remember one off the top of my head. But

638
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: he really set the tone. I thought Mitchell played a

639
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: really interesting game. Seventeen points, thirteen assists. You could tell

640
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: he was happy to let Lavert cook. He was happy

641
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: to let Garland cook as well. And then I thought JB.

642
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Bickerstaff did some smart things in this game. Isaac Isaacacorro

643
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: came in filed a couple of times in the first

644
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: three minutes of this game. Then he got yanked, stayed

645
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: on the bench for the remainder of the game. Ricky

646
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: Rubio no time, Dean Wade no time. Kris Lavert twenty

647
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: four points off the bench. He hit four threes and

648
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: the confidence he was playing with. The downhill nature he

649
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: was playing with allowed bicker Staff to go away from

650
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: a korro. He played Danny Green JB. Bickerstaff did. Danny

651
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Green hit a three pointer, grabbed four rebounds. That's a

652
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: nice little found money there, A nice extra player to

653
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: have around. And then Donovan Mitchell, I thought was a

654
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: great playmaker. I mentioned the thirteen assists before he had

655
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: that one where it went up. It looked like he

656
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: was gonna throw down a dunk and then somehow passed

657
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: it to the corner. I think it was Cheddy Osmond

658
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: for the three great stuff from the Cavs to completely

659
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: come through in all the areas that they needed to

660
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: after Game one. They needed to be more physical, and

661
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: they absolutely were. They needed some support from another star.

662
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: They got that from Garland, and their bench and their

663
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: role players were a lot better. They had the Knicks

664
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: looking so sluggish getting into their actions. The ball pressure

665
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: was much better for Cleveland. New York turned the ball

666
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: over seventeen times, and they are not a high turnover team.

667
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: It just didn't feel at any time like the Knicks

668
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: were able to get in a rhythm just because it

669
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: was taking him seven or eight seconds to even get

670
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: into their offense, and then it was tough to attack

671
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: from there. So great stuff from the caves.

672
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of intensity on that, and for sure,

673
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: like a guy like Quentin Grimes, who needs some sort

674
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: of space, has been basically a zero so far as

675
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: this series and in terms of scoring, and he didn't

676
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: hit a shot yesterday, so I think that shows you

677
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: how much they were really intense. Speaking of old Spurs

678
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: and Tony Parker, you said Danny Green hit a three,

679
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: and that was a classic Dandy Green three because there

680
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: was a flyby. I wasn't just an open three. Yeah,

681
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: he actually had he actually needed a pump. Yeah. Jamie

682
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Bickersteff only trusted three guys Danny Green surprisingly who didn't

683
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: play in Game one, Jeddie Osman who played great in

684
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Game one, and Ker sila Verde. Off the bench. It's

685
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: a weird team because sometimes I do think they're deep

686
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: off the bench, because there's a lot of guys that

687
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: can contribute, those guys who didn't play in Rubio and

688
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Wade Lamar Steves, they can contribute, but sometimes they're just bad,

689
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: and so it looks like a really shallow bench at times,

690
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: and so it's a great good luck charm if Danny

691
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Green's playing for you, obviously, the three time champ doing

692
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: his thing out there to chip in. I just hope

693
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: you mentioned sluggish on the Nick side. I just hope

694
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: that they're physically all right, because Julie rand I'm not looking.

695
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: This was a rough game.

696
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was physical exactly that that shot that Jalen

697
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Brunson took from Jared Allen, which was really weird. Jared

698
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: Allen monster coming down on the offensive end and Jalen

699
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: Brunson is there, but Jeddy Osman is like, it's like

700
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: sliding doors. He was like in between Alan and Brunson,

701
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: and Allen was just running up the floor and suddenly

702
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Jeddi Osman went in between them and Alan just kept

703
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 2: running and he had no idea that Brunson's face was there,

704
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: and he gave him a shoulder check right to the face.

705
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 2: So I wonder if Jalen Brunson is gonna be all right.

706
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: I mean, he got chicken up and Brunson is tough.

707
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna play, but him and Randall aren't banged up.

708
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a series in this postseason where guys

709
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: are going to be limping across the finish line at

710
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: the end, and I just hope it's not the Knicks,

711
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: because there's some signs that it could be.

712
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brunson got hit in the face by Jared Allen

713
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: like you're saying, and then very shortly after he got

714
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: hit in the face by Julius Randall, like throwing his

715
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: arms up for a foul call, hit Brunson right in

716
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: the face. Quentin Grimes was bleeding from the mouth. Josh

717
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Hart has a hurt ankle. He got hit in the

718
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: face as well in this game. Julius Randall had like

719
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: a massive wound on his elbow in the first half

720
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: from I think he was trying to drive on mobile

721
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: or something. Maybe hit him in the mouth. I don't

722
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: know what it was, but had a big cut, had

723
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: to get taped up, and then late in the game

724
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Nicks up big but apparently Randall had asked to stay

725
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: in to get his rhythm as he's returning from injury.

726
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Went for a dunk on a fast break. Jared Allen

727
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: challenges from behind, fouled them and a real rough landing

728
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: for Julius Randall went down into the crowd. Fans were

729
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: very kind to him. I thought the way that they

730
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: reacted after a really scary fall from the rim, I

731
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: think Jared Allen ended up getting a flagrant one, which

732
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: is probably the right call on this one. But yeah,

733
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: not just similar to like the they honest fall in

734
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: the severity and the impact when he actually hit the ground.

735
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: So I think it's just gonna have to be a

736
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: pain tolerance thing for Randall as well, because he seemed

737
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: to be okay, but surely hurting.

738
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: You're right, that's an extensive list. Quintin Grimes similar play, right,

739
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: he was on that break where Mitchell had from behind

740
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: ish and went into the crowd. One of those that

741
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: you could say, yeah, that's a dirty hit, but it

742
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: wasn't much of a hit, and so it wasn't classified

743
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: as dirty. Nothing other than a common foul in that play.

744
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 2: That's a lot and Isaiah Hartenstein almost got decapitated twice,

745
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: so that could true. So that could be something that

746
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: is another pain tolerance thing, or maybe that's just a

747
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: hurt some hurt feelings potentially because the Nick's Yeah that

748
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: the Cavs were so different, Garland and Mitchell literally trying

749
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: to dunk on on Hartenstein, just bringing that effort so

750
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: this is a I guess this is Eastern Conference basketball.

751
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: This is Eastern Conference basketball. Game three is Friday in

752
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden, nixt in the playoffs. Last time was

753
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I don't know what their fans situation

754
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: was like at that time, because you know, we're still

755
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: probably smaller attendance early in the COVID days. So that

756
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: should be a crazy arena for that game. With the

757
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: score the series tied, Donovan Mitchell finally come into play

758
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: in MSG and you know, a real rough and tumble

759
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: first couple of games. So I mean Game three, it's

760
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna be lit.

761
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well Donovan Mitchell is going to try and

762
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: redo what Trey Young did there. I guess to some

763
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: degree because I guess there was fans there there there Trey.

764
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: It was late twenty twenty one. I think that that

765
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: was the season twenty twenty one where I mean, I

766
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: guess that was just the slow trickle of fans right

767
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: beginning of this half half job or some I don't know, yes, exactly,

768
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: it depended on on this. I mean, there could have

769
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: been vaccination requirements to get into the arena then, yes, possible.

770
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me do a quick check of the attendance

771
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: numbers here in game one, May twenty one, attendance fifteen thousand,

772
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: So it was pretty full. Okay, it sounds like it

773
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: was pretty full, so I'm sure it'll be loud once again.

774
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: There was another Eastern Conference basketball game last night. The

775
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: good start for the Hawks, but the Celtics got the

776
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: lead right at the end of the first quarter and

777
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: then never trailed the rest of the way, though Atlanta

778
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: did make it interesting in the second half of this game.

779
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum scored twenty nine points and Derek White went

780
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: for twenty six as the Beantown Boys took a two

781
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: zero lead in their series against Atlanta. This one overtaests.

782
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all knew it was over from

783
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: the beginning in terms of the Celtics winning this series.

784
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: The Hawks aren't done. I think there is some life

785
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: in them. But yeah, that was a painful one because,

786
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: as you said, they started off so well, They're unlikely

787
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: in one locker room, the Hawks to outperform the starters

788
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: are unlikely to outperform the Celtics starters. That happened, and

789
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: then the Hawks hoped in coming into the series that

790
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: their bench will be better than the Celtics bench. But

791
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: Robert Williams was a big problem turning that second they're

792
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: turning that first quarter lead around for the Celtics. He

793
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: had a nineteen to eight run where he's part of

794
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: it to end the Hawks real hope. I mean in

795
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: that first half run, he was awesome. And so he's

796
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: a bench player now for the Boston Celtics, but he

797
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: obviously is a starter slash bench player depending on the series.

798
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: So he was huge, and I guess we sort of

799
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: underestimated his importance in terms of mitigating the offensive rebound

800
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: advantage that the Hawks were hoping to have in this series.

801
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: But Robert Williams said, no, I ain't letting that happen,

802
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: and that was huge to me and him and Brogden

803
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: combining there coming off the bench in that first half

804
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: to just stop that run and allow the starters to

805
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: come back in and just shoot the lights up.

806
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. This, I suppose there are moments where the Celtics

807
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: lose a little bit of focus. They can definitely have

808
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: cold shooting nights, but that's what's going to happen if

809
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: the Hawks are going to win. Because I think this

810
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 1: one could very easily be a sweep. You talk about

811
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: the offensive rebound advantage, the Hawks had one last night.

812
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: They got nineteen offensive rebounds. They did the Celtics had five.

813
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: The Celtics made fifteen threes. They shoot threes. The Hawks

814
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: made more. They made sixteen. The Hawks played their kind

815
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: of basketball and they got beaten pretty pretty easily in

816
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: this one. Robert Williams, like you're saying he was dominant,

817
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: was when he was in off the bench, a big

818
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: part of the reason why the Celtics defense finished with

819
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: ten steals and twelve blocks. I thought the ball movement

820
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: that Boston showed was incredible. There were so many times

821
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: when the Hawks would take a long three, it would

822
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: be a long rebound. They would just chuck it ahead

823
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: to whoever happened to be out running the rest of

824
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Twenty eight assists for Boston last night. The

825
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: dribble drives were great. There was a sick play that

826
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: really ended the game when the Hawks were trying to

827
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: make a comeback, and it was a cross court one

828
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: hand from Jason Tatum to find I think it was

829
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Horford in the corner. Of course, that's cash from there.

830
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: They're playing for each other. They're locked in offensively and defensively,

831
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Celtics to me have been incredibly impressive

832
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: through these two games. Derek White was a question mark

833
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: for me coming into this series, just because I wanted

834
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: to see how aggressive he was going to be looking

835
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: for his offense. You know he's going to do it defensively,

836
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: but man twenty six for him seven rebounds, two assists,

837
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: a steal, and three blocks. He does everything for the Celtics.

838
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Like Tatum has had really nice scoring games in both

839
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: of these games. But I would say Derek White's been

840
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the best Celtic through games one and two and definitely

841
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: has been the difference in this series. So I do

842
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: think this one's jover. It's just a matter of staying healthy.

843
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: So my question to you, we've seen two games from

844
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: the Celtics. We've seen two games from the Sixers. Kind

845
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: of similar games actually, now that I'm thinking about it.

846
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: Game one, easy win for both teams. Game two, the

847
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: opponent comes out, give their best shot, do everything they're

848
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: supposed to, and it still doesn't matter. So who's been

849
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: more impressive to you through these two first round wins.

850
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: The Celtics are the Sixers because they're meeting each other

851
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: in the next round.

852
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were going to give me the losers,

853
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: which which a loser was has been more impressive. That's

854
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: a great question. I think the Celtics overall, if their guards,

855
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: like Derek White, as you mentioned, who shooting from Eric

856
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: Gordon range, you just don't don't think of him as

857
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: a deep three point shooter. Like if they are going

858
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: to outperform their counterparts, like if it's gonna be Derek

859
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: White and Marcus Smart, Derek White making a great case

860
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: for being a starter at all times, but he's probably

861
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: gonna go to the bench when they get to the

862
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: second round and Robert Williams has to enter the starting lineup.

863
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: If they're going to outperform the other team's starting guards,

864
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: that's that's their weakness. Air quotes their weakness then that

865
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: that has been more impressive to me than than overall

866
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: the Sixers, because yeah, they've they've done a good job.

867
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: The Sixers have finding shooters and all that, but they

868
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: have such an advantage at the center spot. It's not

869
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: really a fair game. It's not much of a matchup

870
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: against the Brooklyn Nets.

871
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: They just you think this one's fair.

872
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: No, But but coming in I guess, on paper, I

873
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: mean Trey Young and de Jonta Murray should be better

874
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: than Derek White and Marcus Smart. Then that hasn't happened.

875
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: And so that's that's where I think that the Hawks

876
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: can get a game. But the thing is like, yeah,

877
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: the Hawks went and scored offensive or got their offensive rebounds,

878
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: but that's just because the Celtic sauce didn't miss. I

879
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: mean they were getting they didn't need to get offensive rebounds.

880
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: The field they finished, Yeah, they're on fire, and they

881
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: were just getting into the lane too easily. That's that's

882
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: the worrisome part. The points in the paint. It was

883
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: just way too easy. Sixty four to forty. It was

884
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: a layup line. It was a layup line, and I

885
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 2: guess that's a disappointing part. And then coming back and

886
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: Tree Young entering the arena wearing Celtics green, I thought,

887
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: all right, all right, this is this is one of

888
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: those statements that I don't understand. You're wearing the opposing

889
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: team's color, but that means you're gonna play really, really,

890
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: really really well. And that didn't happen. So maybe it

891
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: plays better at home. I yeah, I think they're more

892
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: well equipped to beat the Celtics, even though, yeah, I

893
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: thought they'd get two. I thought they would. If they

894
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: get one, it'd be a nice accomplishment.

895
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Games three and four Friday and Sunday, they have a

896
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: home court advantage. They'll be ready. I mean four or

897
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: four together. Will you be there together with me on

898
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Friday or Sunday? You think about going to either these ones?

899
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, it depends on which one you go to, because

900
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: I haven't chosen either yet. Oh that's a funny thing

901
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: in this situation.

902
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: If it's a Celtics game, win on three. If the

903
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Celtics win Game three, we might be able to go

904
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: to Game four for like twelve dollars.

905
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you don't want to be at a

906
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: game four they're down three. Oh so yeah, I just

907
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: I realized Sunday better day for me to go. But Friday,

908
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: why the hell would you? Why would you take the

909
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: one game?

910
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

911
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: How would you take the risk? And I think last

912
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: year when they lost to the Heat by three I'm sorry,

913
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: by three games because it was four to one. I

914
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: think they won game three if I'm not mistaken. Let's

915
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: let's go to the tape they won. Let's go to

916
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: the Basketball Reference tape. They did win game three, so

917
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: they were down two. Oh, they won game three, so

918
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: I think Friday's the one.

919
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: Friday might be the game.

920
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they lost the next two. You gotta

921
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: pick my dad up at the airport at five, Okay.

922
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: It takes about a half hour to get through all

923
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: that stuff at the Atlanta airport. We can make it

924
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: in time. I think we can make it in time

925
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: to the Fortress.

926
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: Steve's coming, Steve O.

927
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Steve O will be in town.

928
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: Nobody's he coming to the game.

929
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, And honestly, I don't know who you

930
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: would cheer for in this matchup.

931
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: Who Steve would cheer for?

932
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, my stepbrother lives in Boston. He's a big Boston

933
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: Celtics fan.

934
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh dare you?

935
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Uh? We live in Atlanta. I'm not a big Hawks fan,

936
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: but I've got Hawks fans in the family, and of

937
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: course route for the home team. But right now, I'm

938
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: not a fan of forty nine dollars for standing room one.

939
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: What if I learned anything from Leella's it's that if

940
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: you wait as long as possible on standing room only tickets,

941
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: they get down to like twenty bucks somehow, so I'll

942
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: do it. I'll got in one of these games.

943
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: Maybe SROs and a round one standing room only tickets.

944
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: I've never heard of such a it's early.

945
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: It's early. I was looking last night, so maybe it's

946
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: changed as of today. That's what I'll research during this break. Okay,

947
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: last time it was an analogy for Darren Fox and

948
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Tony Parker. This time it's standing room only ticket prices

949
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: for the Atlanta.

950
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: Room only Steve room only, got Steve in there.

951
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: We're taking a break. We'll be right back with Steve

952
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: room only prices, back with no dunks. And this is

953
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: what you've all been waiting for. Steve room only prices

954
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: holding steady still forty nine dollars to attend Hawks versus

955
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Celtics on Friday night. But if you want to buy

956
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: a verified resale ticket, it'll cost you fifty five dollars.

957
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: That makes no sense.

958
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

959
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: I think we've been talking out the standing room only

960
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: too much, and now the prices price has been driven

961
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: up over the last few years. We've realized that's such

962
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: a good place to watch a game. From talked about

963
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: it too much. Yeah, now everybody does it it's gonna

964
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: come down.

965
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna wait on this one. Here,

966
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait you out. We're gonna wait you out.

967
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Hawks.

968
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I'll be slapping that ceiling in no time. I tease

969
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: it earlier, But here we go. Since tweeted the Night.

970
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Baby tweet overnight Wow twitt, Yeah, you're.

971
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: Gonna need to see this one. Podcast listeners, So hop

972
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: on over to our YouTube search for No Dunk Sink.

973
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: You'll find us because today's tweeted the Night comes from

974
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: at Daily Loud. It says AI generated photos of playing

975
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: basketball are now going viral online. And yeah, these are

976
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: some AI photo of the Pope playing basket. And I'm

977
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: telling you the one on the left where he's in

978
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: the air shooting a layup. I feel like the reference

979
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: photo was a Barack Obama picture because I think there's

980
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: a picture that is almost the exact same of Obama hooping,

981
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: wearing pants, shooting a layup and smiling just like the

982
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Pope is.

983
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: And this one that's a great call.

984
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, these are just some quality images of what

985
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: looks to be the Pope playing basketball. I know there

986
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: was some other Pope AI images earlier. This year of

987
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: him wearing like a sick white puffer coat. So he

988
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: seems to be one of the go tosh for throwing

989
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: into an AI generator. Me personally, I always put my

990
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: friend Murph in there to see what they can do

991
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: to his face.

992
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: But I was wondering, this is well done.

993
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly freaky. How how great this looks, how

994
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: legitimately realistic this looks?

995
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: But got ups?

996
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: Is there anybody you'd want to see play that you've

997
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: never seen play back basketball? Play basketball thanks to the

998
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: power of technology?

999
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, I probably never thought of that. I never

1000
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: thought of the pope playing basketball, but that same but

1001
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: then I saw him balling, and yeah, I got really excited.

1002
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah he's dropping communion on on those guys there. Who

1003
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: would I want to see play basketball? And I've never

1004
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 2: seen play basketball.

1005
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: It's a really tough question, isn't it.

1006
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure Terry Rozier would throw Osama bin Laden

1007
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: in there, the late Osamivan, because he said famously that

1008
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: Osama should stop doing what he's doing and just play

1009
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: basketball because he's because he's who, because he's tall. That

1010
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: one comes to mind. Nothing else jumping.

1011
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: That's a tough one to put you on the spot.

1012
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: I guess I could have asked you ahead of time.

1013
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. I came up with a great answer,

1014
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, not a great answer. But who else you

1015
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: you got? You got one?

1016
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I put down three? Put ten jo answers aliens like

1017
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: an alien like it would be cool to see an

1018
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: alien holding the basketball.

1019
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: Slimming on it. Have we not seen that?

1020
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: In interesting? But no, no, no realistic aliens. Those ones

1021
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: are cartooning. I even look like the real ones.

1022
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, with you more alien, Yeah.

1023
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: The actual nature aliens is what I want to see.

1024
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: James Naismith, it's getting updated photos what he thinks of

1025
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: today's game. The only pictures we got him him holding

1026
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: a peach basket holding a basketball, probably has seams on

1027
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: it or laces. We need a new one. We need

1028
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: a color photo of James Naysmith hooping. I think he's

1029
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: got a step back. Let's see.

1030
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: That's a great one.

1031
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: And then my final one is Babe Ruth.

1032
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: Why, I don't know, I don't know.

1033
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: Man, just an old famous athlete. So just imagine Babe Ruth.

1034
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: He was a pitcher and he was a hitter.

1035
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: Now a baller for sure. That's a great one.

1036
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: No it's not no, it's no, it's not Babe Ruth.

1037
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Who wants to see Babe Ruth holding a basketball?

1038
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: Maybe if he's pointing? Yeah, could he have a bad

1039
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: in a ball?

1040
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: Uh?

1041
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great.

1042
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll stick with Aliens and James N. Smith. What

1043
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: about you, j D. Anybody in the whole world you've

1044
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: never seen hold of basketball that you would just absolutely

1045
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: love to see hold of basketball?

1046
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: Probably me?

1047
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Actually, okay, I think I got actually make that one happen. Yeah,

1048
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: a basketball is the prompt.

1049
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the time for quick inside joke. But we always

1050
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: joke about Mattie Oh holding a basketball and the way

1051
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: he was holding a basketball during a corporate photo shoot

1052
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: event that we needed to do.

1053
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Uh, it looks like an AI generated image exactly. What

1054
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: about a person holding a basketball that's never held a basketball?

1055
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, we gotta we gotta post that for sure.

1056
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: Awkward situation. Yeah, Oh, totally super awkward. It's like, here,

1057
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: take this basketball and do shit with it trying He

1058
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: was Harlem Globetrotters, been.

1059
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: Listening to the prompt, Pretend like you can't catch a basketball,

1060
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: so he caught it with his wrists. That's a good

1061
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: way to do it. Nobody will ever believe you're holding

1062
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: the basketball that way. Yeah, but let us know in

1063
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: the stream team or down below in the comments. Tweet

1064
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: at us, send us an email, and let us know

1065
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: anything on earth that's never held a basketball. Who would

1066
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: you like to see it hold a basketball? Because right

1067
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: now our best answers are aliens, James Naysmith and JD.

1068
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: I do like the I do like the idea of

1069
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: other athletes like Boris Becker hold it. See Yeah, you're

1070
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: right guy all.

1071
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: It's smaller than his hand usually not anymore. Yeah, can

1072
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: you do it the same way?

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Speaker 2: Doubtful?

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Speaker 1: Snip your game?

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: Hands are too small.

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Speaker 1: This is why people are so worried about a I

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Speaker 1: take it our drops man, because they can make they

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00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: can make anything. Hold the basketball. You do a better

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00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: segment than this. I challenge you to that chat GPT.

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00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: I haven't heard about a pod GPT yet, but it'll

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Speaker 1: probably come out next week. Got some game two's on tonight,

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00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: tasmels three of them the Lakers. They're still in Memphis.

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00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: That game is on TNT at seven thirty pm Eastern.

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00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Jahn Morant will be a game time decision for this one.

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Speaker 1: Though I saw the reporting was that there was quote

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Speaker 1: not a lot of optimism. He plays in Game two

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00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: and most of the clips I've seen he's like warming

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00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: up left handed and stuff. So maybe not good for

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Speaker 1: job playing against the Lakers. Tonight, Miami plays against the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks after a surprise Game one win. Jannasanta to

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: Kunmpo as of yesterday was listed as doubtful with a

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00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: back condusion after his fall. Tyler hero is out. His

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00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: earliest possible return is the NBA Finals. That one NBA

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00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: TV nine pm Eastern seems like a late start for

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00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: a Milwaukee Bucks game, and then our final game of

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Speaker 1: the night, Minnesota Timberwolves at Denver Nuggets. That's ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: all so on TNT. Think anybody's evening the series tonight?

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Speaker 1: I guess it would be the Grizzlies getting to win

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Speaker 1: or the Timberwolves getting win. Are we looking at some

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Speaker 1: two oho series there?

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? This one big for the Grizzlies and the Bucks

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00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: at home to even the series here two different scenarios.

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00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: It feels like Yannis is more likely to play than

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Speaker 2: Jahn Morant. But the great thing about the Grizzlies is

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: they've had lots of experience playing without John Morant. They

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: have such a great home court advantage and this is

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Speaker 2: a must win for them if they want to hold

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00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: out hope. So if even if Moran doesn't go, big

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00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: games from perimeter players gotta gotta be a part of this.

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00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: Like Desmond Bain didn't have a good night in Game one.

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: He's got to be better than the thirty three percent

1112
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: shooting and he can be tyas Jones will step into

1113
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: the starting lineup I imagine as their their backup point

1114
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: guard who always fixes everything, and he's got to be

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00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: big going down. It's going to be tough obviously in

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: that game. See the Bucks. The Bucks I think can

1117
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: overcome Yenis because they have freaking All Stars, multiple of

1118
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: them to help out. And they've done this before as well,

1119
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: you know, considering their twenty twenty one Finals run. But

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Speaker 2: the Grizzlies feels, I guess a little bit more urgent

1121
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: because Jaws ridiculously important to the team. They haven't done

1122
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: this before successfully in the postseason without them, and you

1123
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: can just you have the All Stars again to fall

1124
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: back on with the Bucks, So perimeter play, yeah, Bain's

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Speaker 2: got to be good. I mean not below average.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers Grizzlies is no doubt the one to watch night.

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00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: You're right, the Grizzlies do have a lot of experience

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Speaker 1: playing without Jaw the past couple of seasons, but missing

1129
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: Adams and missing Clark on top of Jaw, three of

1130
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: their top six are gone, and it's already tough sledding

1131
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: inside for the Grizzlies. That's going to be tough, but

1132
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: they who knows, who knows what kind of effort you're

1133
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna get from the Lakers, So we shall see what

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: goes on with them. Desmond Bay needs to hit some threes.

1135
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Luke Canard needs to hit some threes

1136
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: because they're not gonna get the inside put paint scoring

1137
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: from Jah tonight. So should be interesting to see. I'm

1138
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: just guessing Giannis is gonna play, Yeah, since they're down,

1139
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: maybe if maybe, if it was one to zero for

1140
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: the Bucks, this would be a rest game, but definitely

1141
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: a hard fall for him, and I mean doubtful. I

1142
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: guess is like a twenty five percent chance he's gonna play.

1143
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: That was yesterday, though maybe another night of sleep helps out.

1144
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: And then Minnesota and Denver, I don't know. Man, this

1145
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: one might be charging it to the game. I had

1146
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Speaker 1: to get up really early to take my card to

1147
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: the shop today ten pm start in a series that

1148
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a very competitive first game. I don't know, it's

1149
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough one for me. Maybe it'll be

1150
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: an all possessions one on Thursday morning. But it'd be

1151
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: nice to see a big game from Anthony Edwards. He

1152
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: was awesome in the playoffs last year. He was awesome

1153
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: in the play in lilast year. We haven't yet seen

1154
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: that from him. He obviously had the tumble in the

1155
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: play in tournament, and I thought it looked like he

1156
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: had a ton of padding on his shoulders in Game

1157
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: one underneath his compression shirt, so surely that's still an issue.

1158
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Speaker 1: But it'd be cool to see an ant take over

1159
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: game anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. We got to see one

1161
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: in the postseason after what he did last year against

1162
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: Memphis was a short run, but he looked fantastic. So

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00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: let's yeah, let's get one because this series feels like

1164
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be fairly short. The star power is

1165
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: what I have faith in with the Bucks. Yeah, and

1166
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: more so than John Moran, who said his pain level

1167
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: was a ten to ten. Jhannis comes back when it

1168
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: looks like his season is over, So it feels like

1169
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: there's a lot more optimism around Yanisa to Kupo coming back,

1170
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: and plus the Heat feel more beatable than the Los

1171
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: Angeles Lakers right now because you didn't get a great

1172
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: game from Bron in terms of just overtaking the offense

1173
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: and doing Bron things. He's playing off the ball, Ryan

1174
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Anderson like, according to our John Hollinger and Anthony Davis,

1175
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: didn't have to be ridiculously assertive on the offensive end.

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Speaker 2: So that's the scary thing for the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was like a dominant ad

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Speaker 1: game and he was taking a back seat for the

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Speaker 1: majority of it. I'm sure that they will challenge to

1180
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Speaker 1: really challenge Rui Hachimura to have another great shooting game.

1181
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Speaker 1: And I mean, we'll see if Austin Reeves can sure

1182
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: can absolutely cook the Grizzlies once again. That was a

1183
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Speaker 1: that was.

1184
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Speaker 2: Crazy to watch. Yeah, that's a great thing about the

1185
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Speaker 2: second game at home, Like you just throw out Austin

1186
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: Reeves and it made me think, like Desmond Bane is

1187
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: sitting there at home where they were amazing all season long,

1188
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: and they're down one zero and Austin Reeves just outperformed him.

1189
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Speaker 2: Uh the you know, a secondary perimeter player on the

1190
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: other side, he's got to be saying, I got to

1191
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: drop twenty twenty five on this guy. So that's a

1192
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: great thing. Like we saw yesterday, cas weren't going to

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Speaker 2: lose two games at home, and the Grizzlies gotta feel

1194
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: the same way. So hopefully they can. They can do

1195
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: that tonight in that early game that's got the stage

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00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: all to itself for a couple hours, unlike yesterday where

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Speaker 2: they are just clogged up to start this.

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Speaker 1: No matter how many games like ever that the Lakers

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Speaker 1: have had a playoff game, that's the first game of

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Speaker 1: the night. That's surprising. Yeah, just because of them being

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Speaker 1: a West Coast team, but obviously Memphis is quite far east.

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