1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, and welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. Um, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: the Colin Coward, the wealthiest, just to make every moment 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: more is going to stop the Dallas Mavericks for twenty 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: to two feet. He's got himself. Tis be the best, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: easier done when the Dallas safe and secure and you 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: can get back in two hours. My favorite the same 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: five or ten bucks, so of a quarter of a 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: few are new. Just down ready in the sports book, 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: guy and get started at they knows Russell past presented 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: by the two out there, Jimmy Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield. Now, 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's lack of offers is fairly predictable. Kyle Shanahan's 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: offensive genius and he's bailing on him doesn't help the market. Secondly, 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: injury played career. Third, he can't throw a football due 14 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: to surgery on his throwing arm for a month. Those 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: would appear to be major roadblocks. An offensive coach is like, 16 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm moving off him, gets hurt a lot and now 17 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: can't throw a football for four months. What is it 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: going to say if Jimmy Garoppolo is signed before Baker Mayfield. 19 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is now ready to play. He's cheaper than 20 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, he can throw a football probably in about 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: two weeks, and he's younger and is a better overall 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: talent with a better arm. That's why he was a 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: number one pick. If you look at all the quarterbacks 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that have moved, all have issues. Trubisky a limited arm talent, 25 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: but he's a nice guy, and he's athletic. Matt Ryan declining, immobile, 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: but he's viewed as a nice guy, smart guy, gets 27 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: along with people. Deshaun Watson a lot of baggage, viewed 28 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: as a supreme slash elite all time talent. All that's 29 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: left is Baker and Jimmy Garoppolo, And according to John Lynch, 30 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the Niners GM they already have a team willing to 31 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: give up a second round draft pick or two to 32 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: get him. The only quarterback not moving no offers crickets 33 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield. Is he the least talented, No? Is 34 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: he the least healthy? No, that's Garoppolo. His inability to 35 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: get along with people, his inability to fall on the 36 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: sword is literally taking a playoff game winning quarterback in 37 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland off the market. Now think about that. If I 38 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: told you four years ago. Baker Mayfield will actually be 39 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: five hundred and win a playoff game. Do you think 40 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: you'd figure the Browns would let go of him a 41 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: year early and he would have no trade market. Just 42 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: say that out loud. Yeah, Baker Mayfield's going to go 43 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, the NFL's worst franchise four years, five hundred 44 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: record with two really bad coaches, one of them Freddie Kitchens, 45 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: who's never already been a coordinator. And oh yeah, he 46 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't a playoff game. He'll beat Pittsburgh. Yeah, they dumped 47 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: him a year early. This is why when he grabbed 48 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: his crotch at Oklahoma. This is why when I heard 49 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: he was difficult to the Senior Bowl. I'm not beating 50 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: up on anybody. There's no reason for Baker to not 51 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: have a market. He's not in the worst physical shape. 52 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: He's not having surgery on his throwing shoulder, he doesn't 53 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: have twenty two civil cases, he doesn't have a weak 54 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: arm like Trabisky, and he's not that expensive like Deshan 55 00:03:51,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: or Garoppolo. It's the inability to get along with people, owners, gems, 56 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: media teammates, medical staff being likable. I know it sounds corny, 57 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: and very Midwest. It matters. It matters on the coasts too, 58 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: you know. I saw the stories about urban Meyer not 59 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: knowing who Aaron Donald was. I consider urban Meyer and 60 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson as a talk show host to be one 61 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: of the same. I said about Zion Williamson, I would 62 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: pick him number one with this caveat huge concerns about 63 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: his weight and huge concerns about his ability to stay healthy. 64 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: So he really was both of what I thought he 65 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: would be. Tremendous and injury plagued. When urban Meyer got hired, 66 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: I said the same thing multiple times on the air. 67 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: He never liked pro football, but I thought he had 68 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: a chance to be successful because of the division was bad. 69 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: He hired veteran coordinators and Trevor Lawrence is a once 70 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: in a decade quarterback talent. I remember before urban got hired, 71 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: I had a discussion with him and I relayed this 72 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to you the audience. Urban Meyer never watched Sunday football. 73 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: Sundays for urban Meyer was breaking down Ohio State tape. 74 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: He told me that it was in my office. He said, 75 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure it out very quickly. I never 76 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: loved the NFL, and that was always my concern with Urban. 77 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: If you go look at Tom Coughlin even when he 78 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: was in college, or Jimmy Johnson even when he was 79 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: winning in college, or Pete Carroll when he was winning 80 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: in college. They had some NFL background, There was some DNA, 81 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: some fiber connecting them to the NFL with previous jobs. 82 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: Urban not only had none of that fiber, he didn't 83 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: like professional football. And I don't think it's a coincidence 84 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: that the two greatest college football coaches in my life 85 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: are Urban Meyer and Nick Saban. Both struggled mightily in 86 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. Why because to be great in college your 87 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: authoritarian personality, the more intense and dominating you are, is 88 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: often your greatest ally. You can bulldoze your way through boosters, 89 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: the NCAA administrators, difficult players, conference commissioners. That's a huge 90 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: drawback to being a professional coach, where players often have 91 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: longer contracts and make more than the head coach. So, 92 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and this happens a lot. Often your greatest strength becomes 93 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: a weakness in another industry. Don't think of football as 94 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: one business. There's college football. We're strong. Overbearing authoritarian personalities 95 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: have long given us dynasties Barry Switzer, Woody Hayes, Bouschem Beckler, 96 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Joe Paterno, dominating my way or 97 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: the highway, personalities that strength needed to get through and over, 98 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: administration boosters, advertisers, athletic directors, conference commissioners. Then when you 99 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: pivot to the NFL, you have an owner, you have 100 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: a general manager, you have agents, players often veteran, highly 101 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: compensated players. I don't think it is a coincidence that 102 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Barry Switzer, Nick Saban, and Urban Meyer we're sort of 103 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: I rolls as NFL coaches. Now. Switzer inherited Jimmy Johnson's dynasty, 104 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: but Switzer was mostly mocked on his way out. Saban 105 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: I roll on his way out. Urban I roll before 106 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: the season started. So Zion Williamson in Urban to me, 107 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: I can acknowledge I would have picked Urban in Jacksonville. 108 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: I got it, and I also would have drafted Zion. 109 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: But nobody thought. Nobody thought they were locks to be successes. Everybody, 110 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: myself included new Zion was an injury weight risk and 111 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Urban was an authoritarian risk. And that's how both have 112 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: played out. I'll get asked from time to time, Colin, 113 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: why don't you talk more college basketball? Or why don't 114 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: you talk more regular season baseball. I've never felt it's 115 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: my responsibil to make your sport interesting. It's the sports 116 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: job to make it interesting. College basketball, the one and 117 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: done culture, has made it three hundred and fifty Division 118 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: one programs and you can't name a single starting five 119 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: outside of your favorite team, be at Kansas, Syracuse or Arizona. Therefore, 120 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: in my business, I'm looking for urgency and stars. Those 121 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: translate to ratings, big names, big games. That equals revenue, 122 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: that equals ratings, and yes, I'm in this business to 123 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: get those. I'll give you a great example. I love 124 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: college football and watch a ton of it over the 125 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: last seven to eight years. I've never talked less college football. 126 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Why it's too regional, it doesn't feel as national, and 127 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm a national host. One of the reasons I'm rooting 128 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: for Miami with Mario Crystal Ball and Lincoln Riley for 129 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: USC it will give college football a big city, coastal 130 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: fan base. If you look at college football attendance, it's 131 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: gone down seven straight years. If you look at college 132 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: football ratings, those have been trending down for the last 133 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: seven to ten years. Why it feels like the sport 134 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: is monopolized by the SEC, and so it's not my 135 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: responsibility to make your sport interesting. The NFL, a single 136 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: one o'clock eastern ten am Pacific NFL game will be 137 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: soundly a Major League Baseball playoff game. It's up to 138 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: a sport. It's commissioner, it's marketing, it's promotion to make 139 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: sports interesting. Therefore, I'll talk about it right now. NFL 140 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: is seventy percent of my show, college football is five percent, 141 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: and the NBA is about twenty five percent. All of 142 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: them have urgency or stars. My guess is going forward, 143 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: college football will become a much more prominent discussion. This 144 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: year forward for the next several years, I think I'm 145 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: going to move into a sixty percent NFL, twenty five 146 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: percent NBA, and fifteen percent twenty percent college football. I 147 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: count the draft is both NFL and college football. But 148 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: if Lincoln Riley wins big, he will. If Mario crystal 149 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Ball wins reasonably big, he will. I'll talk more college football. 150 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Never a talk show hosts job to make a sport interesting. 151 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: That's up to the sport. I've got a menu. 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Twenty years ago, I was in Portland, Oregon, 192 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: talking to a friend, Ron Pivo, and we got into 193 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: one of these kind of ethereal conversations about America, and 194 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: he said, what do you think the next big crisis is? 195 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I said this twenty years ago, I said, the cost 196 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: of pharmaceuticals. I grew up in a middle class family. 197 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: I said, I'm watching what my mom pays for stuff. 198 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, this is outrageous seven bucks a pill. 199 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: So obviously, and by the way, you look thin, you 200 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: look in good shape. Obviously the cost isn't affecting you personally. 201 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: But when was the moment for you that you attack 202 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: this and thought we have a huge problem, because I 203 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: think it really is a huge crisis in America. Well, no, 204 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: probably six years ago is when I really started dabbling 205 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: in healthcare and trying to learn more, trying to figure out, 206 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, when people were talking about replacing the ACA 207 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: or getting rid of it, just looking at what the 208 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: alternatives would be. And then along the way I was 209 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: contacted by a doctor alexash Myansky, and he was running 210 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: a compounding pharmacy, a special kind of pharmacy, and we 211 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: started emailing back and forth and I asked him, I said, well, 212 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: if the farmer bro guy can increase prices by seven 213 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: hundred fifty percent, what can we do to decrease prices? 214 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, what are our options? And he's just a 215 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: rocket scientist. The guy, super smart educated me on the 216 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: industry and how pharmacy benefit managers work. And we put 217 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: together a program right now where we don't go through insurance, 218 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: we don't go through any middleman, and every drug we 219 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: sell at costplus drugs dot Com, we mark up fifteen percent. 220 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Then you pay three dollars for the pharmacy handling and 221 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: five dollars for shipping. That's it, and your net cost 222 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: is typically less than your co pay. That's fantastic and 223 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I love mentioning that. Give me the website one more time. 224 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Sure if costplus drugs dot Com and go and look 225 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: up your prescriptions, and even if we don't have it, 226 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: please sign up. We're getting ready to add another sixty 227 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: drugs on Monday, and we'll all we should have over 228 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: a thousand drugs by the end of the year. Okay, 229 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: So Luca Dantage, I admit I saw his grainy tape 230 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: from Europe and I said this, he looks out of shape. 231 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't like his body, and obviously he proved me wrong. 232 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: He's a tremendous player. Most people view him as the 233 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: singular player in the league they would start their franchise 234 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: with today. But after his first year there were questions 235 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: about his fitness. How does Mark Cuban broach that? How 236 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: do you go to a star who's going to be 237 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, if he went to the Open Market, he'd 238 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: have thirty suitors. How do you go up to him 239 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: and say, what did you have for dinner last night? 240 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: How do you approach it? You don't. I mean, look, 241 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: he's a smart kid, and he understands what's going on, 242 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: and he you know, he feels that playing the games. 243 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: I think it was an adjustment for him, like every 244 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty twenty one year old goes through as you 245 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: start to mature, and every one of us goes through 246 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: as we enter our careers. Right, you go from being 247 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: a kid, even though he was a professional kid, to 248 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: being a pro, and not just being a pro, being 249 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: a superstar. So you know, there was an adjustment for him. 250 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: And you know what people don't realize about Luca is 251 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: not only you know, is he a top three, if 252 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: not better player in the game, but he's smart. He 253 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: is so smart and he's got such a good heart 254 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: that those things together, he's always going to try to 255 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: do the right thing. And that's just who he is. 256 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, Mark, there's the NBA since the seventies. I 257 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: was a Seattle Sonics fan. Spencer Haywood. Basically back in 258 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: the seventies it was a players league, and if you're 259 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: not comfortable with that, then you wouldn't like the league. 260 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: I've always been comfortable it's a players league. NFL is 261 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: more about the shield. Baseball's often more about the general manager, 262 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: but international soccer, in the NBA, it's about the star player. 263 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: You were one of the first owners. You may have 264 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: been the first that went team playing, upscale, locker room nutrition. 265 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: You were kind of the first in. You had kind 266 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: of a different view of the world. You were the 267 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: youngest or first or second youngest owner in And there's 268 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: a fine line now as if you've aged between caring 269 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: for the players and coddling them, and that's a real 270 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: line I said, I prefer Adam silver Style over David Stern. 271 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: The danger with Adam is sometimes I worry that he's 272 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: almost two pro player. And what is that line as 273 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: a sports owner between really being there for the player 274 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: but being tough and holding them accountable. They are employees 275 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: and you have customers, right. It's a great question, And 276 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: the first thing you do is look at the players themselves, 277 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: because the player of twenty twenty two is not the 278 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: same as the player of twenty fifteen, as the same 279 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: as the players twenty two thousand and five versus nineteen 280 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: ninety five. The Internet and social media have changed everything, 281 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: and so you know what a twenty one year old 282 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: is into today, what is important to them, How they communicate, 283 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: how they communicate with fans or each other, is night 284 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: and day different than when I first came into the league. 285 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: They're already brands when they come in right now with name, 286 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: image and likeness. They're wealthy brands in some cases, and 287 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: they recognize the things they can and can't do in 288 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: order to gain that income. And so by being a 289 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: brandy by you know, being on social media, not not 290 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: just for athletes, but for all of us, is kind 291 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: of performance art for all of us. We kind of 292 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: pretend who we want to be and show the side 293 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: of us we want to be seen. And today's athletes 294 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: have grown up that way. You know. The twenty one 295 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: year old had got their you know, their Instagram the 296 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: minute they were old enough to get Instagram, you know, 297 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: and they got their snap at and so dealing with 298 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: that athlete today isn't about coddulating them or not coddling them. 299 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: It's about understanding them and understanding how they communicate and 300 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: what's important to them. My son, my twelve year old son, 301 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: my fifteen and eighteen year old daughters. You know, ten 302 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: years ago, if I had twenty years ago, rather if 303 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I had the same age kids, I'd be pushing them 304 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: to read books, thinking that's the only way to learn. 305 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: Now they you know, YouTube and TikTok. They get as 306 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: much information there as they get anywhere else. How you 307 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: communicate and how you connect to athletes today is geared 308 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: more towards understanding them than rather some definition of toddling versus, 309 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, having them figured out for themselves versus you 310 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: know you're on your own. Well think about this, mark. 311 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: You didn't have Google growing up, and yet you're a 312 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: brilliant guy. My son is a sophomore in high school 313 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and he is already looking at ways to get out 314 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: of high school sooner. He's a super bright kid, and 315 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: he's like, Dad, I know what I want to do 316 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: in life, cybersecurity. He's really good at it. He's got 317 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: an LLC. He knows what he wants to do. I'll 318 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: connect them with Robert Hertzevich from Shark Tanker. You will, yeah, 319 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: of course, Oh that's great. He So my point is 320 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: this is not only happening to athletes, but our kids. 321 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: We have an undequated education system in many instances and 322 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: brilliant kids. And not that it's a crisis, but I 323 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: think it's something As a parent, Mark you're dealing with this. 324 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: I have a sixteen year old son and a twenty 325 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: one year old daughter. They get bored more quickly. They're 326 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: not as challenged in these sort of static educational block 327 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: systems we have. What do you do to your kids 328 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: to say, hey, it's okay to be a kid go 329 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: swimming today. Well, but you know it's okay. Just like look, 330 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: we used to have the boob tube and our parents 331 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: would be like, get out the phone or get out. 332 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: You're gonna go blind if you sit in front. You know. 333 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: Now instead of the boob tube, it's the boob blurb, right, 334 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: because it's fifteen seconds thirty seconds. But it's a constant 335 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: source of information, and so it's not so much I've 336 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: six years ago, seven years, eight years ago, pre TikTok. Effectively, 337 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: it was okay, let's see where they are with their 338 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: social media, let's see where there are in their information consumption, 339 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: let's see what they're reading. And I still, you know, 340 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: bribe my kids to read. My middle daughter gets Jordan's 341 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: if she reads three two, three hundred page books, you know, 342 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: and you can explain it to me. My older daughter 343 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: is past that, my youngest son or my son is twelve. 344 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: They they're on TikTok all the time. And so what 345 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I do is I try to watch them with TikTok, 346 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: but also get on TikTok with them. You know, it 347 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: used to be, okay, what books are in the library, 348 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: and what are they reading or what books? Cannot remember? 349 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: The scholastic books would come home and there'd be a 350 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: check mark, and you you know, you'd get Robinson Crusoe 351 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: or whatever books your parents would pick and they'd get 352 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: delivered in the mail, and that was a big deal. Now, 353 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I think as a parent, I try to pay attention 354 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: not only to their Instagrams, but also to TikTok because 355 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I can see the same As long as I'm looking 356 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: at the same type of stuff, I can see the 357 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: same type of feed and understand what they're learning and 358 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: have conversations with them and go rather than trying to 359 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: just pretend that I can get them not to do it, 360 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: which I can't. It's just too easy to use TikTok. 361 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: It really really is. And so I have to make 362 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the time to get on TikTok, and I colin I 363 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: find myself now. You know how you get on the 364 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: treadmill or bike or whatever and you try to kill 365 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: time and you just want to divert your attention. Now 366 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I use TikTok like if I'm running or walking or biking, 367 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, I'm on TikTok just going through with the 368 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: thirty second or whatever clips and the time goes by faster. 369 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: But it allows me to understand my kids better. But 370 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: it's still I don't worry so much about the social 371 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: media consumption as I do their direct messages because you know, 372 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: they're still my kids, and they're going to be available, 373 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: and I have to go through rules with them about 374 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, when people dm you what you can and 375 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: can't do, and who you can and can't follow, or 376 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: who you can or can't let follow you. Yeah. By 377 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: the way, my morning routine is coffee, fifteen minutes of 378 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: CNN dot com wortle for hopefully less than ten minutes, 379 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: and then and then TikTok. My wife loves TikTok. She 380 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: follows animals and food. It's just a steady stream when 381 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of TikTok writing, the brilliance of TikTok. 382 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: It's all artificial intelligence. And by the way, TikTok like 383 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: presentation of sports is the future of sports media, period, 384 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: end of story. It is the one thing TikTok like 385 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: presentation will save could save baseball in terms of sports media, 386 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: because baseball actually is the perfect sport to every at that. 387 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: So look at this wave. TikTok uses ai to present 388 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: the things you're interested in. Yeah. So if my son 389 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: and I like Luca don Dunk's NBA stuff and dogs, right, 390 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: you're just gonna get a steady stream of that. If 391 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: we do. If Major League Baseball did a TikTok version, 392 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: call it red zone for the NBA or red zone 393 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: for Major League Baseball, and all I care about was Ohani, 394 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers and the Pittsburgh Pirates and every impactful 395 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: at that you know, bottom of the ninth or score 396 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: runners in scoring positions, and I'm blazing through. It's showing 397 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: me in real time a live feed of just that 398 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: at that or just that possession when Luca has the ball, 399 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: or just that dunk, whatever it may be, from my 400 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: favorite players. That's the future of sports media because we're 401 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: not going to get our sixteen year old or twelve 402 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: year old or fifteen year old to sitting for a 403 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: full game. It's just not going to happen. If you 404 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: were evaluating new companies in two two, two twelve, and 405 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: two twenty two, what is the biggest obstacle in this 406 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: next ten years for starting companies? Artificial intelligence? Because there's 407 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: two types of companies, those who are great at AI 408 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: and everybody else. And you don't necessarily have to be 409 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: great at AI to start a company, but at some 410 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: point you're going to have to understand it's just like 411 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: the early days of PCs. You didn't have to be 412 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: good at PCs, but it helped then networks, then then 413 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: the internet and then mobile. All these evolutions in technology, 414 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, you don't need to know them to start 415 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: a company. But even in sports, right, I mean the 416 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: conversations I have, it's not about analytics and what's the 417 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: best thing of analytics. It's about computer vision and AI 418 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: and pose estimation and you know, precision medicine and you 419 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: know blood analytics, whatever it may be. All these things 420 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: that you have to pay attention to that are really 421 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: the things that have the greatest opportunity, beyond player development, 422 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: to give you a competitive advantage. League has strengths and weaknesses. 423 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't love baseball's ten year contracts. Football has regulated violence, 424 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: but great players can be hurt. Basketball doesn't have the 425 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: punitive contracts and players don't generally have career ending injuries. 426 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: But if there was one thing with the NBA, now 427 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: that you say, guys, Mark Cubans commissioner for six hours, 428 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: you got to make a change. What is it? Referees 429 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, moved the charge circle outstom you know, Mark, 430 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: I'll throw this at you. I always this is what 431 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: I believe about the three point line. I would take 432 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: out the corner three so it would go into the bench, 433 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: because I think it's virtually impossible to defend the corner 434 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: three and the basket. If you're big, like a Bosh 435 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Love, Durant can shoot to three. But then agen 436 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's not necessarily a bad thing. You know 437 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: that we just get that scoring more. It makes you 438 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: innovate more. So you know, even even you know you've 439 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: seen the mid range make a comeback, because defenses are 440 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: so in tune to taking away the three pump fake 441 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: and and you know you step in. But oh okay, 442 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: I know what it would be, um the rip through. 443 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: I'd get rid of the rip through so fast it 444 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: make your head spin because if you and I, if 445 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: you're standing there and you're defending me Colin, and you 446 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: put your arms out to defend, if your arms straight 447 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: out and I do the rip through, right, it's a foul. 448 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: If I took that ball and hit any other part 449 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: of your body, it's a foul on me, right. It 450 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: makes no sense. The defender has got just as much 451 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: opportunity to put their hand ats long as it's not 452 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: on your the offensive player's body. But you know, you 453 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: just put your hand out and you know, put your 454 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: hands out like you were taught to play defense, right, 455 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: hands up and hands up. If the offensive player can 456 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: reach you with the ball, they're going to rip through 457 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: and it's a foul. And if you're in the bonus, 458 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, two easy points. Get rid of that. 459 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Why do I have to in the NBA match salaries 460 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: on a trade? It makes you less flexible as an owner, 461 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it less import But it also deals with competitive balance, 462 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: right because otherwise, you know, even with the luxury tax, 463 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: you would have a team with a five hundred million 464 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: dollars payroll. Is that terrible? Yeah, it really really is, 465 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: because it's it's it when you distort the economics too dramatically, 466 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: it impacts fans, It impacts the ability for competition. It 467 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, impacts ticket prices because as much you know, 468 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you've got to really be concerned about where our 469 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: ticket prices go. And I do get concerned. I mean, 470 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: we've got four thousand tickets of twenty nine dollars an 471 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: under for every game. We've got at least two thousand 472 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: I think it is for eighteen dollars an under. And 473 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I get worried that, you know, we're not going to 474 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: be as affordable as we need to be, and so 475 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: when salaries go up, not everybody's just going to absorb 476 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: the losses. There's going to be teams that try to 477 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: pass it on. Make sure to check out the drame 478 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: On Green Show. 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Is there something that 488 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: you can't hire your way out of? Is there something 489 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: you think, oh, this meeting, I can't get rid of it. Yeah, 490 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: there's tons of that stuff. Really. Yeah, Unfortunately I haven't 491 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: always been as good as you know the way. Look 492 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: where I'm ade my point in life the last twenty years, 493 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: I deal with the stuff I like to. I'm really 494 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: fortunate and you know, and I just hire people, let 495 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: them do their job and trust until I camp. And um, 496 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: there's there's just so much administrivia involved with the NBA 497 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: and all businesses for that matter, all the forms, all 498 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: the you know, all this, all the that that you've 499 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: got to do, and the things that go to putting 500 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: on a game. You got to dot all the eyes 501 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: and cross all the teas. Unfortunately I've got great people 502 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: to do that. Um. But yeah, just there's just going 503 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: to the MBA meetings and dealing with the perfunctionary things. 504 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: It's just mind numbing. Do you still love it as 505 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: much as you always have? Yeah? I mean it's like, 506 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: let me just tell you, we've had a couple of 507 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, Luca and Spencer Dinwitty game winners. No better 508 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: feeling than you know, your your heart is like it's 509 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: suspended animation as the balls going through the air and 510 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: it splashes it through and I'm running off everybody that's me, 511 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, And there's nothing better or just being able 512 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: to get out there and shoot the ball when other 513 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: guys are out there, just like I'm still ten years old. 514 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing better. Were you surprised that Spencer did witty 515 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, he likes the ball too. 516 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Was your staff concerned a little? Jason Kidd concerned a 517 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: little that he would take the ball away from Luca? No, 518 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: not at all. I mean, because he played an off 519 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: the bench role, you know, so it's not like he's 520 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: always started and always been the dominant player. He's always 521 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: been at some level of complimentary player, and he's always 522 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: fit the needs of the teams that he's played for. 523 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: You know, I was talking about this before we went on, 524 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: about the likability of certain players, and that it matters 525 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: more than you think that. You know, Steph Curry gets 526 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: along with other stars. Lebron By and large can be 527 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: needy at times, but he elevates other players. Luca is 528 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: very intense. Tell me the likability that I don't see 529 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: because I looka and I think and that guy is 530 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: intense is oh no, no, are you kidding the exact opposite. 531 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: I get that. I need to get Luca to come 532 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: on and have you spent some time with him. Luca 533 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: is chill. Luca is his chill. He's just I can't 534 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: even tell So there was um, a TV guy, TV 535 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: star that came to a game and his son is disabled. 536 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: I think it's cerebral palsy. And without me even really 537 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: having to say something, he had a wheelchair share right 538 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: by the court pregame when Lucas Lucas just right there 539 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: talking to him, you know, taking pictures and just just 540 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: gotta you know, when I say he's got a heart 541 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: of gold, it's not me just saying, oh, I got 542 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: to talk about my starting upot. That's who he is. Like, 543 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: There's never been a time when there's been somebody around 544 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: the court or somebody even that holds up a sign 545 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: that he can get to, or where I've asked him 546 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: to sign something or do something where he said no, 547 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: Not one single time, the guy I mean Luca. You know, 548 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: if you're just hanging with them, like going to dinner 549 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: with them, it's just like, Hey, what's up, what's going on? 550 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: It's just chill. He's not you know. Now when he plays, 551 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, like a game last night against Minnesota and 552 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley, he has a beast, right, he doesn't back 553 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: down from anybody, right, But when he's off the court, 554 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: he's just you know, if you did if he was 555 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: five eight and one hundred and thirty pounds and you 556 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: were just, you know, talking to him and he's playing 557 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: FIFA or two kid whatever it may be, or Fortnite. 558 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: He's just a kid playing games and he'd just be 559 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: your great friend. Well, I think what's happened to European players. 560 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: They were more finesse and skilled early. I think Luca 561 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: is the gateway into a new European player, which is feisty, 562 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: year tougher. They heard the criticism. P seven two hundred 563 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: and forty five pounds. He's a linebacker. He's a linebacker 564 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: that knows you know how he always see these football 565 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: players in celebrity games and everything. They're insanely at They've 566 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: got some skills. They were the high school basketball star. 567 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: Lucas is the one that could have been the football 568 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: star if you would grew up in the United States 569 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: but play basketball instead, and has all the skill. But 570 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: he is a linebacker that's all strong and big and physical. 571 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: He can be and you don't really truly appreciate his 572 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: size until you stand next to him or you smack 573 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: him on the back and you realize thick and he's powerful. Well, 574 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: you owe me. Then I'm going to hold you to 575 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: this in the next year a Luca interview because he 576 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: is b player. I think overwhelmingly GMS would start their 577 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: franchise with and you have earned it, my friend. You're 578 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: somebody I have a great deal of respect for. I'm 579 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna let you go. 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