1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: And the nominees are, or at least who we nominated. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: The end of the season means the annual year end awards. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: There are six categories, and Danny and I say who 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: we voted for. Official results are due out next week, 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: so this is more of a discussion. Also up for 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: discussion the NFL playoffs. Who do we see surviving in 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: the divisional round? It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven, and 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: it starts now. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart? What rent? 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable? 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acycardinals 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: dot com, Slash podcasts. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: He's a ten half of five. He's it again So 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: for Harry Magic. 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioloud. 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: First things first, Danny, a wellness check. How is the 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: family in Texas doing? Considering you and I have not 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: spoken since something happened over the weekend. I wouldn't say 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: the biggest surprise of Super wild Card weekend, but maybe 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: based off this team's history in the playoffs, maybe the 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: most expected of Super wild Card weekend. I'm talking about 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys going one and done. 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: I had to talk my dad off allege as a 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: lifelong Cowboys fan, you know, the typical had high hopes 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: for how they had played, despite the fact that the 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Cowboys have a hard time finding success in the playoffs 30 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: on a consistent basis, and all the usual stuff you'd 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: expect that I'm having to, you know, tamper him down 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: a little bit. I did get a text from my 33 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: brother in law almost immediately saying bird Gang for life. 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: He says that he has done with the Cowboys, which 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: my family does a nice job of cheering for both 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: organizations to begin with. But they were saying they are 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: full fledged Cardinals fans. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Now. 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure that will change by the time the twenty 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: twenty four season kicks off, but I appreciate you asking, 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: Craig Well. 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: I know the Surrect family are big listeners to Cardinals 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Cover two and the entire Arizona Cardinals podcast streams, so 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: we just want to make sure that everyone is okay. 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: No one is on head coach watch, perhaps depending on heck, 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: by the time many people listen to this episode here 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: as we record on Wednesday, maybe a decision has already 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: been made. Who knows. 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy. I mean, look the coverage with the 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: Cowboys similar to the Eagles, those types of fan bases 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: is so different. Same with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: The fact that before kickoff, Mike McCarthy's job was quote 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: unquote up in the air if he didn't win is 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: pretty crazy. I will say, you know, owner Jerry Jones 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: and his son Stephen Jones, they have a radio show 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: they go on every week on Mondays and that ends 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: when the season ends. So it's not totally crazy that 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: the two of them did not go on the radio 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: show following that. Cowboys also that it was a bit 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: of a surprise. You don't have to be a former 61 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: employee to know how much that organization values publicity. But 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: what do you think if they were going to move 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: on from McCarthy, that it would have been done by now, 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: now that it's been a couple of days. You typically 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: don't let something like that linger. 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I would say forty eight seventy two hours is typically 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the window, sometimes even sooner than that. But I would 68 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: think by the end of this week slash weekend. If 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: you're the Cowboys and that coaching staff, you should know 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: you should be pretty set moving forward because things happen 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: fast in the offseason. Yeah, there are no games, but 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you've got the senior ball coming up. There's a scouting combine, 73 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: then free agency, then the draft, so you can't wait 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: around in the National Football League. 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see. I remember when I was there 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: when Jason Garrett was let go. It was pretty fast. 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of on the train of it. Looks 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: like Mike McCarthy is going to continue coaching the Dallas Cowboys, 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: so we'll see. 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, here's the good news, and I know your nephew 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: is already a step ahead of everyone else in your family. 82 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Is this opens up the door for a brand new 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: fan base in the state of Texas to jump on 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals bandwagon, because now is the time you 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: want to jump on board. When you're four and thirteen 86 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: with a franchise quarterback moving forward, Now is the time 87 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: to be a part of this train moving in the 88 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: right direction. 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: And eleven draft picks, that's right, absolutely, Yeah, It's it's 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: a bummer they can't get a lot of games that 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: my mom does get very excited when our games are 92 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: on TV out there. I remember when we played the Eagles, 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: that that game was they were able to watch it 94 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: back home and I get pictures of life. It's hard 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: to keep up on a game day with everything going on, 96 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: of like people texting you, which is I don't mind 97 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: that people do that, right, just takes me time to get, 98 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: you know, time to respond. I have the time to look. 99 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: And I've got a text from my mom and she's 100 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: wearing her Cardinals like winter bomber jacket on the couch, 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: watching the game. And I get a picture from my 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: older sister and it's my sister, my brother in law, 103 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: and my nephew all wearing their Cardinals gear. But they're 104 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: the only three in the house. So they set up 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: a phone to take a self time or photo showing 106 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: me that they were wearing their Cardinals gear. And I'm 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: getting all these pictures. It was just it was funny 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: and very sweet to see the support that they were 109 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: watching the game and wearing Cardinals gear. 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Here's a question because this has yet to happen to me, 111 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: but I can see it, especially if you have aunts, uncles, grandparents, 112 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: but if you're working in a press box, do people 113 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: when there's that scan, that big picture skin, Where are you, Danny? 114 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Where do you watch the game from? I try to look, 115 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't find you. Are you even on the where 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: are you on the bucks? On the sideline. 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: It's a lot of people saying I was looking for 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: you on the TV, and I have to explain. One, 119 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: if you're watching our games, that's a national broadcast. So 120 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: even if I'm working, I'm not going to show up 121 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: on your TV unless I'm on the sideline, which is 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: rare during a game. And then also a lot of 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: times if people are using my tickets, I go down 124 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: and say hi pregame or halftime, they're like, where are 125 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: you sitting? And I have to point up where the 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: glasses and where we're sitting. 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, here's the thing. If you are working the sidelines, 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: you don't want to be noticed. Like our colleague Paul Calvic, 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: who was noticed earlier this season when it was Rondel Moore, I'm. 130 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: All players, that's the best player to. 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Be hit by almost ran them over caught himself. Unfortunately 132 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: enough for Calvic didn't suffer any damage, at least to 133 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: my knowledge, We had a good fun with it because 134 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: it did make it on the TV, and of course 135 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: everyone blew it up. I believe Cava and Bosh even 136 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: had it as his as his put it on his 137 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: phone as his home screen for a while. So he 138 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: brought it in on Tuesday before the Red Sea report 139 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: that week and said, Paul, look what I did, and 140 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: tell ya that that's cool. 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: I was thinking about Paul an all sideline reporters looking 142 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: at the weather of these games brutal. 143 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing, As I told Paul on Saturday 144 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: when I texted him, I think it was a live 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: shot of what was currently what would have been kickoff 146 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: of Sunday's game, but because of the blizzard conditions, they 147 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: moved everything to Monday. But at that time there was 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: wind and snow and you couldn't see anything, you know, 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen feet in front of you. But I 150 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: reminded Paul, the Cardinals do visit the Buffalo Bills next season, 151 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and to pray that there is not a December visit 152 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: that you get September or October when that schedule comes 153 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: out in May and Green. 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: Bay that's right, and Sett'll be okay, because that's indoors. Right, yeah, 155 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 3: it'll be interesting though, those are really the only two. 156 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: You know what, though, we really lucked out with weather 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: this year with where we were going, especially in the 158 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: month of December, so hopefully that luck carries over into 159 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. 160 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: I know Paul also has his eye on the Dolphins trip, 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: just because you don't know what it's going to be 162 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: like in Miami as far as humidity, commodity, and how 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: that stadium is so situated with the sun beating down 164 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: on the visiting sideline and the home team and the shade. 165 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, these are things that Paul deals with that 166 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: you have to be worry of in case, you know, 167 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: you get that tap on the shoulders. Hey, who knows? 168 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Next man up? Danny, You're it? 169 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: That's true. Hey, I would gladly fill in if I 170 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: needed to for Paul. 171 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: We always fill in when necessary. Here and we move 172 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: on here talking about the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty three. 173 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: It is award season, you big watcher of the Emmys, 174 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Golden Globes. The Oscars are coming up almost choice. 175 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: I'll have them on in the background, right. I it's 176 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: so interesting. I like movies. I like going to the movies. 177 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm so bad about seeing movies, So for me, it's 178 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: a lot of like I see the nominations and I'm like, 179 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: I don't know who that is. I don't know what 180 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: that movie is, but it's still. 181 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: Fun, right, it's I'm gonna get off topic here a 182 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: little bit, but you did say something that made me think, 183 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: there is It has been rare in which the nominations 184 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: and there can be what five, six seven different films, 185 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: and on a good year, a good year, I will 186 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: have seen one of the nominated movies. 187 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't even hear of most of them. 188 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, did these even hit the theaters? 189 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: If it's not a blockbuster, if it didn't gross one 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: hundred million, then I probably didn't see it. 191 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: Man, I miss Blockbuster. Okay, let's get to awards. Wow 192 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: you are I'm old enough to know what Blockbuster was? 193 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 3: Video on your face? 194 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: It was like Ella, Like I mean, by the time 196 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: I was finished the elementary school, they were all probably closed. 197 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: But I used to love Friday nights having a friend sleepover, 198 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: and there was one down the street and my dad 199 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: would take my sisters and our friends whoever was sleeping 200 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: over we'd go to Blockbuster and we would all get 201 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: one movie, like me and my friend would get one 202 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: movie to select, my sister and her friends like and 203 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: then it was like may it was a big deal 204 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: if you could get like candy or popcorn or something, 205 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: right if we didn't have it at home. But yeah, 206 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: it was a huge deal to get those movies. 207 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: Forty eight hour rental. 208 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: Yep, you had to rewind. 209 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: They kind rewind. Absolutely. I feel better about this conversation. 210 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: So many people out there listening right now that have 211 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: no idea what we're talking about. 212 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: Oh man, I just age myself unfortunately, wonderful. I'm still 213 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: younger than you though. Christ That is Trinity. 214 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: Awards Young at Heart, all right. We do this each 215 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: and every year amongst ourselves here in the Content and 216 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Creative Department. There's about thirty thirty five of us that 217 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: do year in awards. Now, we're just going to kind 218 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: of go over who we selected and some of the 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: potential other nominees. The official results will be posted next 220 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: week on Azycardinals dot com. This is just more of 221 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: a discussion, but there are six awards MVP, Offensive Player 222 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, Newcomer of 223 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: the Year, and that can be a first year player 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: or a free agent beyond the box score. Player of 225 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the Year, someone that stood out but doesn't have maybe 226 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: the stats like am Aaron Brewer or someone like that. 227 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Or if you want to highlight someone who he thought 228 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: like a Budda Baker didn't have a ton of stats, 229 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: but his impact on the field, maybe even off the field, 230 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: needs to be mentioned and in Play of the Year. 231 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: So six categories, Danny, what do you want to go? 232 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: What do you want to start with first? As far 233 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: as do we leave MVP for last? Is there a 234 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: controversial topic an award or a selection of yours, Let's. 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: Leave MVP for last. You want to start with Offensive 236 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: Player of the Year? 237 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year? This I think, But at. 238 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: This Triokies, I feel like there were a good amount 239 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: of options, but it was like the same few players 240 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: to rotate. So I feel like we're probably going to 241 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: have very similar answers for everything. 242 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: I would hope that Offensive Player of the Year is 243 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,479 Speaker 1: darned near unanimous. 244 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: Oh now I'm nervous because here's the thing is, I 245 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: could have gone the easy route, and I don't think 246 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: I did. 247 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: Now, Okay, let me all right, let me say this too, 248 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: because I do have a qualifier. I try my hardest 249 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm not naming a player in multiple categories. 250 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, then we will have the same player we're 251 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: thinking of in a different category. Okay, because I think 252 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: we went different here. 253 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Because I don't, like, you know, defensive player and MVP 254 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: there's I want to honor different players and not single 255 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: out the same player unless one player is just magnificent 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: and does so much. 257 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,239 Speaker 3: Sorry, Okay, we definitely did different players like walking. 258 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Into the Okay, offensive player of the Year Titan, Trey McBride. 259 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you went, James Connor. When you were like its unanimous, 260 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: It's like, okay, here's here's what I said. Do you 261 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: want me to read what I wrote? That's probably gonna go. 262 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: So if you check out Azycardinals dot com, not every 263 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: vote is going to have a reason why. Some of 264 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: them will. So if mine's on included, this is what 265 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: I wrote. Man, Now that I'm about to read this, 266 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: I hope that I wrote it grammatically correct. 267 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I said, we don't check for spelling here on Cardinals. 268 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: Covering two, I said Trey McBride had a breakout season 269 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: and cemented his role as the number one tight end 270 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: for the future. McBride was the team's leading receiver by 271 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: nearly three hundred yards despite coming off the bench for 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: five games. He showed massive, massive improvements in his catching 273 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: and blocking abilities, becoming nearly impossible to tackle on first contact. 274 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: McBride's production skyrocketed when Kyler Murray returned to the field, 275 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: which should excite fans when thinking about how lethal that 276 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: duo can be with a full season together. 277 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Can't disagree with that because now I know who your 278 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: MVP is. 279 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: No, you don't. We're could differ maybe on the box score, 280 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 3: that's true. 281 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna differ on Offensive Player of the Year because 282 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: again I don't like naming the same player for multiple categories. 283 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: So Offensive Player of the Year, at least for me, 284 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: based off production. Running back James Connor love it over 285 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: one thousand rushing yards, over one thousand scrimmage yards, plus 286 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: a team best seven touchdowns scored, not to mention how 287 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: his teammates on both sides of the ball feed off 288 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: his energy. Connor had an outstanding season, and he did 289 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: it in just thirteen games, and actually less than thirteen 290 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: because he got hurt early in the game against the Bengals. 291 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: That's crazy. Could you imagine if he had a full 292 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: season what that number would have been. Just incredible. And 293 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: this was with a rotating left guard position, and you 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: know the end of the season, we're going to your 295 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: backup left tackle, and he was without his franchise quarterback 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: for half the season. Just really incredible. And that's not 297 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: just on James Connor. That is on the blocking of 298 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: the tight ends, of wide receivers like Michael Wilson and 299 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: Zach Paskal, of this offensive line. It really does take 300 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: everybody to hit a number like that, and to think 301 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: about the way that Cardinals were playing in recent years, 302 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: to now have a thousand yard rusher tells you the 303 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: times are changing. 304 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: The one thing this Cardinals offense could do weekly And 305 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,479 Speaker 1: there were some bumps and some hiccups occasionally, but mostly 306 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: this was a top ten rushing team the entire season. 307 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: They finished top five, number four overall, number two as 308 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: far as rushing yards per play. But no matter who 309 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback was, who was running the football, whoever was 310 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: playing left guard, wide receivers, this Cardinals team, and I 311 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: think that's a credit to the offensive staff and the 312 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: scheme that Drew Pettsing brought with him from the Cleveland Browns. 313 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: They want to run the football and this is a 314 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: run first offense. 315 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: I also liked when it comes to the run game, 316 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: you learned about your one two punch, and it took 317 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: some time to get there. That was also a revolving door. 318 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: When you think about the running backs. We saw Kante Ingram, 319 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: Tony Jones, right, who else now? 320 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Right? 321 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: But I'm talking about players now that aren't on the roster. 322 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: But when you get Michael Carter and you're seeing what 323 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: he can do with James Connor and how he can 324 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: compliment his game. And then you also have a running 325 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: back like Mari de Mercado, where we've seen that you 326 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: can handle the ball and he can, he can run, 327 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: he can get you down downhill. But de Mercado being 328 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: such a strong blocking running back as well. To see 329 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: Michael Carter supplement James Connor's role so well those last 330 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: few weeks as more of that agile, twitchy, fast, slippery 331 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: running back where Connor is more of that bulldozer because 332 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: of the size difference. Makes you excited with that running 333 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: backs room in the future because it really does feel like, 334 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: even though it took some time, which was arguably kind 335 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: of the point of this season is to figure out 336 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: who you have and who you want to build around 337 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: in the future. That running backs room not only feel cemented, 338 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: I feel very confident about it. 339 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Keanta Ingram, Damian Williams, Ron del Moore was also in 340 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: the backfield on occasion. But yeah, the number of different 341 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: ball carriers this team had, and the number of ball 342 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: carriers that were able to gain four five plus yards 343 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: a carry is again a credit to the offensive staff 344 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: and the offensive scheme. So we differ on offensive player 345 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: of the Year. You going with the tie in, I'm 346 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: going with the running back Trey McBride versus James Connor. Again, 347 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not gonna it's not a big 348 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: argument for me, and I understand where this conversation is going. 349 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: So let's go with defensive player there, which I think 350 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: you could go with a number of different players, whether 351 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: you're looking at stats or just impact. Not so much 352 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: on the stats. 353 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: I went with defensive player of the year safety Buddha Baker. Okay, 354 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker may not have these splash plays or stats 355 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: that jump off the page, but his knowledge, technique, and 356 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: strength cannot be overlooked. Baker's presence alone not only elevates 357 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: the play of his teammates, it also requires opposing offenses 358 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: to know where number three is at all times. 359 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: Can't disagree with that. Because he didn't have the splash 360 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: plays still earned himself a Pro Bowl bid and going 361 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl later next month in Orlando. I 362 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: went with his teammate in the safety room, Jalen Thompson, 363 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: is that he played the most defensive snaps. He played 364 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: a half dozen different positions. Thompson set career highs in interceptions, passes, defense, 365 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: tackles for loss, and quarterback hits. In addition, he recorded 366 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: his first career sack and force fumble. So the impact 367 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: that Jat had showed up in the stat sheet, the 368 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: impact Buddha Baker had didn't. And as Buddha likes to say, 369 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks just don't look his direction. 370 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: There's a reason for that. 371 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can cut off half the field most 372 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: times when you have someone in the secondary that quarterbacks 373 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fear, but it's you know what, I'm 374 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: going to go this other direction because I feel more 375 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: comfortable throwing to the right side versus the left side, 376 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: because I know Buddha Baker is overmanning. 377 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: The left side. 378 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson had a great year. I love giving him 379 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: his flowers. I absolutely respect that that decision. 380 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. 381 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 382 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: So right now we're oh of two as far as 383 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: the green on things, right, Okay, newcomer of the year. 384 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: Here's my hunch is that you and I picked the 385 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: same player. 386 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: Really, yes, okay, I did not go with one of 387 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: the rookies. 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 3: I didn't either. 389 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good news. 390 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: Should we say it at the same time? Okay, I'll 391 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: kind of sound three two one Kaiser. 392 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: White, Yeah, okay. 393 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: Wow, I'm good. Okay, here's what I wrote about the linebacker. 394 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: Kaiser White was acquired this offseason with the expectation of 395 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: running the defense at a high level based on his 396 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: experience with head coach Jonathan Gannon and defensive coordinator Nick Rollis, 397 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: and White delivered from week one. He played with the 398 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 3: strength and power this defense needed from a middle linebacker. 399 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: White called the defense and kept everyone on the same page, 400 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: and despite missing six games, still finished with impressive numbers 401 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: a team high ninety tackles, two sacks and a team 402 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: high nine tackles for loss. 403 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I promise you, bird Gang. We did not talk 404 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: about this ahead of time because I wrote nearly the 405 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: exact scene. Thing signed because his familiarity with the defense, 406 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: White was an extension of both head coach Jonathan Gannon 407 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and defensive coordinator Nick Ralis. White was the quarterback of 408 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: the defense, and he produced his ninety tackles led the 409 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: team despite missing the season's final six games. 410 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: That's funny. Look at us, I mean we're on the 411 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: same page. 412 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, our football knowledge. I mean it's just right there, Yeah. 413 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: Right there. 414 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so one of three, that's look. Newcomer Paris Johnson 415 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: Junior starting all seventeen games, never missing an offensive snap. 416 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, you can go with a rookie. But I 417 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: just I went with Kaizer because when I hear newcomer, 418 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: I immediately go to like the new players that were 419 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: brought in. Now, again, you could have gone with a 420 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: first year player, but I just think what Kaizer did 421 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: and basically being that coach on the field and helping 422 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: get the other ten guys in their right spot, wearing 423 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: that green dot and you typically sing, well that was 424 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: that's Buddha Baker's job. Yeah, but this was a This 425 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: was a new defense and a new cadence as far 426 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: as what Buddha had been used to. So you needed 427 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: that guy. And thankfully, despite the injury, guys You're white 428 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: is under contract for next season. It might have been 429 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: the most important offseason signing in the free agency that 430 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: this team had a year ago. 431 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: I actually almost swapped my newcomer of the year am 432 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: I beyond the box Score Player of the Year. 433 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: Almost went new com Okay, so all right, I went 434 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: with a first year No. I went with a newcomer 435 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: for Beyond the box Score Player of the Year as well, 436 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: but I'm. 437 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: Not sure if we that would be impressive if we did. Okay, 438 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 3: so my beyond the box Score Player of the Year center, 439 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: yelled afro Hole. 440 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: Yep, we're an agreement. 441 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: Okay, here's what I wrote. Offensive linemen rarely get their flowers, 442 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: but yelled afro Hole deserves his. Prior to the season, 443 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: he only had four career starts at center under his belt, 444 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: but managed to lead a cohesive unit with good communication 445 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: and good snaps to his quarterback. Whoever it was the 446 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: success of the run game. I e a thousand yard 447 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 3: season for running back James Connor is not possible without 448 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 3: the blocking of the O line, and that all starts 449 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: with your center. 450 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Almost the exact same thing that I wrote. But yeah, 451 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: I went with yelled to Froholt. Now, to be honest, 452 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: I almost put in offensive line. I wanted to acknowledge 453 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: the entire offensive line. I've tried to do that before 454 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: in the past, and yes I got called different names 455 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: and was told you can't do that, we need one 456 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: specific player. I've even tried to put like two different 457 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: players and then at that point they just pick one 458 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: over the other to figure out whatever is best for 459 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: the article that's going to land on Easycardinals dot com. 460 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: But I went with Roholt, and I wrote, for my money, 461 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line was the most consistent position group of 462 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: the season, and if the entire O line can't win 463 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: this award, then let's single out the player who anchored 464 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the line. Forro Holt started every game, missed only a 465 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: handful of and it is so having had very little 466 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: previous game day experience at center. 467 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: It's very impressive. And here's the thing with offensive line. 468 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: You don't notice typically offensive line play unless it is bad. 469 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: Typically you don't want to be talked about. More times 470 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: than not, we were talking about how well that line 471 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: was blocking and the holes that were there for Connor 472 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 3: or for Kyler Murray, and the protection that was pretty 473 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: good once Murray came back, and allowing him time to 474 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: get through his reads. It's just it's impressive. And I 475 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: think back to a little bit of last year and 476 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: my first year here in twenty one with Rodney Hudson 477 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: who was hurt and having to have players step up 478 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: at center. One of the first things you notice is 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 3: a bad snap, And in those last two years, they're 480 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: a handful of times that I can recall a bad 481 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: snap or miscommunication where the ball is snapped and Kyler 482 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: Murray wasn't ready or he's under center and which he 483 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: wasn't really under center. But the few times of just 484 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: maybe fumbling the ball, there were just too many times. 485 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily a lot, but even a few is 486 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: still too many, and we did not see those. Off 487 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: the top of my head, I think there might have 488 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: been one high snap with for a Holt and Murray. 489 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: This year. 490 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: It's the only player on the field that touches the 491 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: ball every single snap and that's the center position. And 492 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: I think to your point bringing up Rodney Hudson, what 493 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: we've learned and I think a lot of Cardinal fans 494 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: have learned over the last several years on how important 495 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: the center position is that interior of that offensive line, 496 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: especially with a shorter quarterback in Kyler Murray. You can't 497 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: allow those hands in Murray's face. He can beat you 498 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: off the edge and move around in that pocket, but 499 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: you have to have a pocket for Murray to move 500 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: around in. And again, that entire offensive line was very, 501 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: very good this season, and you go back to the 502 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: questions we had about the offensive line. We knew about 503 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys at left tackle, although there were a segment 504 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: of fans and I heard from him as far as well, 505 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe he's past his prime, he's not quite the left 506 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: tackle the franchise defining left tackle. Well, I think Humphreys 507 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: played well and then gets hurt late in the season. 508 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: We didn't know about left guard. We might not still 509 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: know about left guard considering the number of different players 510 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: at that position. Fro Holt came in a handful of 511 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: starts coming into this season an unknown with John Gaines, 512 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: who unfortunately landed on ir before the season began as 513 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: your backup potential starter later this season didn't happen that way. 514 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: You brought in Pat Elfline, who, based off his experience 515 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: training camp, I thought he was going to be your 516 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: Week one starter. He got beat, he got hurt, and 517 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: fro Holt came in and performed very, very very well. 518 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: The right side Will was a known commodity based off 519 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: what he did a year ago, Paris Johnson playing a 520 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: new position that he didn't play his senior year at 521 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and then just a rookie going in playing 522 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: that right side anchoring that side of the line. So 523 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: you had question marks at darn near every single position 524 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: along that front. Yet here we are talking about, at 525 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 1: least for me, the most pleasant surprise of the season 526 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line. 527 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: And then halfway through the season you get your franchise 528 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: quarterback who has a very different style than the previous 529 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: quarterback you had. For the first half of the season 530 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: it was mostly Josh Dobbs. That's impressive as. 531 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, considering that, yeah, there was hardly any work between 532 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: center and quarterback because Kyler is rehabbing. 533 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't even allowed to touch that. 534 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Now you can't do anything until he's able to practice. 535 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: And in to your point, those and Kyler brought it 536 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: up those first three games, four games he talked about, 537 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is, you know, my third pre season game. 538 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, preseason's over. My seasons now starting and it's 539 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: week thirteen. You're like, wait, a second week fourteen, But 540 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what happens. And again credit to 541 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: Frolt and Murray to put in some extra time to 542 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: make sure that center quarterback exchange was flawless most of 543 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: the time this season, and we weren't talking about low 544 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: snaps or high snaps or bad snaps at all. 545 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 3: Right, I feel like we're gonna have the same player 546 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: of the. 547 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: Year player of the year. Real, okay, this I feel. 548 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: Like across Azycarninals dot Com it's going to be unanimous. 549 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: Really, Yes, I do, okay. 550 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: Play of the Year James Connor one handed touchdown grab. 551 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Against the Eagles. Yes, okay, Wow, Well, this is after 552 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: a rough start with offensive and defensive player of the Year, 553 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: we've kind of hit a home run here with newcomer 554 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: of the year. Beyond the box score. Yes, the player 555 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: of the year. 556 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: A spectacular play from start to finish. Kyler Murray evades 557 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: a sack, scrambles, points to the corner of the end zone, 558 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: and releases the ball under duress, ever so slightly ahead 559 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: of James Connor. With the defender on his left side trailing, 560 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: Connor extends his right arm and hauls it in one handed. 561 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: The touchdown was a thing of beauty and tying the 562 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: score and what would be a win over the Eagles 563 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: in Philadelphia even better. 564 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: Wow, we are really on the same page on a 565 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: lot of this. 566 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 3: All right, you plagiarizing me? Do I need to look 567 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: into something here? 568 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: Craig, you are a better right than I am. 569 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for starters. 570 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: Let's acknowledge the athleticism of Kyler Murray. He escaped the grass, 571 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: but Josh Wet turned his back to the defense, threw 572 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: off his back foot and placed the football where only 573 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Connor could reach. And Connor did, extending out his right 574 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: hand to make the catch, bringing the football tight to 575 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: his chest, all with the defender draped over him. Incredible. 576 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, I have a feeling we're going to have different 577 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: most valuable place. 578 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: Oh yes, because once you mentioned offensive Player of the 579 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Year was Trey McBride. I now know that your most 580 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: vioual oh I do in twenty twenty three, according to 581 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek, and again she's not wrong, although we can 582 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: argue here, but her most valuable cardinal in twenty twenty 583 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: three James Connor. 584 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Here's what I wrote. James Connor had a phenomenal season, 585 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: reaching a thousand rushing yards in a single season for 586 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: the first time in his career, despite missing four games. 587 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: He is a true workhorse who refuses to be denied 588 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: on first contact. Connor's reliability in the run and pass 589 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: game kept this offense in games when other aspects struggled. 590 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: His work ethic, leadership, and team first mentality make him 591 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 3: the most valuable cardinal on and off the field. You 592 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: went with Craig Greylow's most valuable cardinal for the twenty 593 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: twenty three season is quarterback Kyler Murray. 594 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: Yes, now, I also thought. 595 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: About that one. 596 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: Is there some that will disqualify Kyler because he only 597 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: played in eight games? 598 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: No, because I thought about that as well, and I 599 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: think that's pretty telling, is when you look at the 600 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to ruin what you wrote, but I 601 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: would assume you said something along those lines of, sure, 602 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: he only played eight games but look at the difference, 603 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: and that alone shows why he was most valuable. 604 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: This is all I wrote for Kyler Murray. Three wins 605 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: with him, one win without him. It's as simple as that. 606 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: Ooh, short and sweet. I like it, Craig. 607 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: But again, as I discussed earlier, I can't give. I 608 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: don't like giving awards to the same player because you 609 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: could put I wanted to make sure Connor was acknowledged, 610 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: but at the same time Kyler Murray as well. Now 611 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: I get Connor is your MVP, Trey McBride as your 612 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year, and you don't include Kyler 613 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: Murray and the discussion at all. But I've said several 614 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: times here on Cardinals Cover two, the season began in 615 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Week ten when Kyler stepped foot on that football field. 616 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon doesn't like to hear me say that, but 617 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: that's just the way this was. Because your biggest question 618 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: going into this season was the quarterback position, and to me, 619 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: that question has been answered moving forward. 620 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think it was impressive what Kyler did in 621 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: the eight games that he played in playing in a 622 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: new offense with a new offensive coordinator and the nuances 623 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: he was dealing with and changing his footwork in terms 624 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: of which foot was leading when he was taking the snap, 625 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: being under center more. He was under center thirty times 626 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 3: in the season finale, way more than any other time. 627 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: I think he'd hit twenty maybe twenty five and one 628 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: are the game prior, but he was starting those first 629 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 3: three games back, five, eight, ten times under center. Very 630 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: impressive what he was able to do when you're right. 631 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: You could see the difference when Kyler came back and 632 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: when he didn't, and when parts of the parts of 633 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: the offense were struggling. I'm really thinking about the wide 634 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: receivers those last two games, when we started to see 635 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: that connection come alive a little more. You didn't have 636 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: a quarterback like Kyler Murra. I don't even think we 637 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: would have seen that. His skill set is just that 638 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: unique and that important to this offense, and I can 639 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: absolutely understand why he was your most valuable cardinal. 640 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: Total yards went up, first, downs went up, points went 641 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: up by almost six points a game with Kyler Murray 642 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: as your starting quarterback beginning in week ten. So the 643 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: offense looked like we hope this offense will look moving 644 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: forward now with seventeen games as opposed to just eight games. Again, 645 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: provided everyone stays healthy. He had some pieces along the 646 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: offensive line, some depth, get a wide receiver. We can 647 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: have that discussion later this offseason, but as far as 648 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: the main piece, it's K one And to me again, 649 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: that's why that Week eighteen loss, it doesn't bother me 650 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: as much anymore. But I really wanted one to beat 651 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, which turned out to be Pete Carroll's final game, 652 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: which no one knew at the time, but just being 653 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: four and four, a five hundred football team going into 654 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: the offseason, with an offense that was lacking a top 655 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: playmaker as far as a pass catcher is concerned, and 656 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: the defense that has holes on all three levels. You 657 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: got some pieces and some nice rotation players, but you 658 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of studs on that defensive side, 659 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: so with very little at his disposal. And yeah, the 660 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: quarterback gets a lot of the praise and a lot 661 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: of the criticism. But if we're going to praise him, 662 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: then yeah, Kyle Murray the MVP in my eyes of 663 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, despite only playing eight games. 664 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: Do I get MVP of Cardinals cover two guests since 665 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: there were there? 666 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you're a guest. Co host MVP CO. 667 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: There were three of us on rotation during season Craig. 668 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes we threw in Darren during the off season. Four 669 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: so four So MVP of Cardinals Cover two is Cody Fincher. 670 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: Great, say like that, putting his fists up in the 671 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 3: air behind the glass. 672 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: Way to go, Cody, before we head on out of here. 673 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, the official year end awards Azycardinals 674 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: dot Com sometime next week. Our colleague Zach Gershman is 675 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: handling all that will bring him aboard next week and 676 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: then he and argue. He and I can argue as 677 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: far as you know who got it right and who 678 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: got it wrong. Danny didn't get any of hers wrong 679 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: because I totally understand where you went with a lot 680 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: of your decisions. 681 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: Have to make sure I listen next week and see 682 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: if you're changing your two and I'm not here. 683 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: Don't you always listen? 684 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 3: Yes? 685 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Okay, good answer. See that's why the co MVP of. 686 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 3: Cardinals covera yeah promotion. 687 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: By the way, as we began here talking about the 688 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, how what we end not with more Cowboys talk, 689 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: because I'm done with that and I think I might 690 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: be done with that just period. With respects to you. 691 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so it's taken me. What how many years 692 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: have you been with us? 693 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 3: Well? 694 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: Three three season? 695 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: It's taking years. 696 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: So it's taken me three seasons. Like I'm not going 697 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: down that road anymore. 698 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: Wow, Craig, thank you? Why just tired of it? 699 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: New Year's resolution. Cowboys aren't on the schedule next season. 700 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. 701 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Playoffs. Any of these games Saturday or Sunday that you're 702 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: going to keep your eye on Saturday's doubleheader Texans against 703 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. By the way, I love what the 704 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: Houston Texans have done this season. It is a tremendous story. 705 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: It just why couldn't it have been twenty twenty two 706 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: or twenty twenty four or any other year, but twenty 707 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: twenty three. 708 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that game, not because I want 709 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 3: to see Houston lose, because at this point I don't care. 710 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 3: Obviously I care about the draft pick for the Cardinals, 711 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: but I mean, at this point, the difference of twenty 712 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: six to twenty eight, right, I mean, they just did 713 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: us no favors. But if you're going to be objective, 714 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: it is incredibly impressive. What Damika Ryans has done with 715 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 3: that team. What CJ. Stroud has done in his rookie year. 716 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: I just I love that he threw five interceptions this year, 717 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: and three of those game against the Cardinals. It's very impressive. 718 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: I do think that will be an exciting game to 719 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: see between the Texans and the Ravens. 720 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the first game of the weekend, first 721 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: game on Saturday, Houston at Baltimore. I just, I mean 722 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: I could see the Texans winning this game. I mean, 723 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens off Super Bowl, a super wild Card weekend, 724 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: and sometimes they start slow. Yeah it could me. And 725 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: right now you got a hot Texans team. But again, selfishly, 726 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I need Lamar Jackson to do Lamar Jackson things and 727 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: beat the Houston Texans. The nightcap on Saturday, Green Bay 728 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: at San Francisco, and again you got a hot Packers 729 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: team coming in on the road and that No, well 730 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: does this go back to throwing up a Cowboys fan and. 731 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: No, I just think like, I just think like the 732 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: Cowboys just looked bad. I don't know if I'd say 733 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: like the Packers looked good enough to compete against the 734 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: forty nine ers for a full game. 735 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's something we might have to revisit here. Cut 736 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: of you're marking that right, the conversation here talking about 737 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: the Packers. 738 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: Eh. 739 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: By the way, we'll have to use this next season 740 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals play at the Packers. 741 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: Here, I'll give you a good one Cony Packers are Eh. 742 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: That's an easy one for you to clip. 743 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: That's a good drop there, all right. Sunday doubleheader, first game, 744 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: Buccaneers at the Lions. 745 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: Ooh, this one. I feel I don't know if I'm 746 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: say like I'm gonna cheer for the Lions. I like 747 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: what they've done. I feel like there's a lot of 748 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: similarities to what is happening in this building right now. Culturally, 749 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 3: I just kind of feel like with Baker Mayfield, he's 750 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: such a wild card that like he could pull out 751 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: a win and I just think it would be not funny, 752 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: but just like kind of crazy to see. So I'm 753 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 3: not gonna count Tampa out of it. I'm just thinking 754 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 3: I saw a tweet earlier where it's like a picture 755 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: when Baker was on the scout team for the d 756 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: line with the Panthers at some point this season, and 757 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: to like be where he is now is just incredible. 758 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: But that's probably more so on the Panthers than anything, 759 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: but that one I think will be fun to watch 760 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: Mayfield has. 761 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: This is his fourth team in two years, and the 762 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: storyline here, I think is fascinated. I saw this. I 763 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: think it was after the Lions. I was after the 764 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Buccaneers had one on Monday night. You've got two former 765 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: number one overall picks who were discarded by the teams 766 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: that selected them meeting in the postseason. 767 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 768 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how quickly things change in the NFL 769 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: and how not very patient teams are with players, whether 770 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: that's free agency or draft picks. 771 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: I loved postgame in the locker room after that win, 772 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: Lions head coach Dan Campbell to give the ball to 773 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: his quarterback in Jered Goff, just saying you're good enough 774 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: for us here in Detroit. I loved it. 775 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got the Rams to a super Bowl, just 776 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: not to a super Bowl title, so they discarded him 777 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: and brought in Matthew Stafford. Now it's that's gonna be 778 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, and I think I might be 779 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: leaning more towards the lines just because well, there's the 780 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: story and then they're home again and they've waited. 781 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 3: So long that fan they showed a season ticket me 782 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 3: nine year old, but sixty six years man. 783 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: Win it for him absolutely. The final game of the 784 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Divisional round, Chiefs at the Bills, third time Mahomes and 785 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: Josh Allen will be meeting, but the first time in Buffalo. 786 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: And I did check the weather report. There is no 787 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: in the forecast this week, but not on Sunday. 788 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: This is the first time, with the exception of a 789 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, that Patrick Mahomes is playing a playoff game 790 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: on the road. 791 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. I think that's road playoff. 792 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: Here's the thing that one's only going to be exciting 793 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: if Josh Allen has a good game. If he has 794 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: a game where he is off and he's horrible with 795 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: ball security, like that's that's gonna be boring. You're gonna 796 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: want to turn that off. But that does have the 797 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: potential to be fine. 798 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen can look like the best player in the 799 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: league and then the following week got to get rid 800 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: of them, find someone else. You're gonna discard him, like storyline, Yes, 801 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: right now, what's going on in Dallas pretty much, don't 802 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: have that problem. Don't have that conversation here with the 803 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. They know the direction they are headed in. 804 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: They have the head coach, they have the quarterback. Now 805 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 1: it's just trying to find out some little bit more 806 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: pieces to put around those players and make sure the 807 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals are in the divisional round next season. That should 808 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: be the goal, not's just Super wild Card weekend, but 809 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: get to the divisional round, get to one of those 810 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: final eight teams left in the NFL. 811 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 3: We saw some good things in terms of being competitive 812 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: and staying composed with the team this year, so they 813 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 3: have their work cutout for them. But if you're able 814 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: to find those pieces with all the holes you have 815 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: on this team, really on this defense, throughout the draft 816 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 3: or through free agency, Cardinals could come to play next year. 817 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: Let's hope that's the case. 818 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Danny, Thank you you too, Craig. 819 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: We'll see how right. We'll see how right we are 820 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: when the year end awards are announced next week. Again, 821 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: that's on Azycardinals dot com and we invite you to 822 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: submit your own winners in the six categories that we 823 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: discussed earlier here. But until then we will put a 824 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by 825 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: Hyundai proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals has always special 826 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: thanks to our executive producer Jim mom Andre, our associate producer, 827 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: the MVP, Cody Fincher. For Danny Serek, I'm Craig Riolu. 828 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.