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Speaker 1: killed with bows and arrows all the time, and yeah, yes, yes,

422
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: you're right. Common carp scales can't like force a compound

423
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: bow arrow to bounce off as they occur in nature.

424
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: But we're not talking about covering your body in carp scales,

425
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: Joe and sending you out to the field of fire.

426
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: That's not what this is the idea. The idea is

427
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: to borrow the design of carp scales to make armor

428
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: from different materials that could withstand the force of an

429
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: arrow shot from a compound bow or maybe even like

430
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: you know, around from a high powered rifle without the

431
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: weight and rigidity of current armor. Well, go ahead, go ahead,

432
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: fish like As of right now, that super the super

433
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: dupercarp armor doesn't exist. Don't go out looking for it.

434
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: You can't buy car like supercarp armor yet. But the

435
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: researchers have finished mapping the fiber structure of the scales

436
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: and they're now working on how to reproduce them with tougher,

437
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: tougher materials, So we might actually have like carp armor

438
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: in our future fighting forces. Well, okay, and that's cool,

439
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: Like I think that's neat. But what it's got me

440
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: thinking about is, if you're gonna do a study like that,

441
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree? Like several other fish come to mind

442
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: right away that if I was going to study their

443
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: scale structure and how it relates to making armor, it

444
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been carp. Like dude, alligator gar black drum

445
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: you could play. I mean, like, dude, I've clean big

446
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: black drum in South Jersey. They're tough, man. This this

447
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: study actually did say like I didn't have time to

448
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: get into all the details. They started with arapaima because

449
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: those things are like crazy armored, but I guess they

450
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: were just too complicated, like they couldn't figure it out,

451
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: so they had to step it down to something a

452
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: little simpler that or they or they didn't have the

453
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: budget to go where Arapaima live and do this study there,

454
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Like you guys got thirty bucks. Figure it out. There's

455
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: a ditch out back. I support there, We'll study them instead. Now, dude,

456
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I just it's just strikes me as odd

457
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: that carp of all things. Yeah, I mean I think,

458
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I think that that is striking the

459
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: balance I want you can understand from when I read it,

460
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: striking the balance of not so complicated that they can't

461
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: study it, but also has a lot of the characteristics

462
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: that they wanted. Right. They went into all kinds of

463
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: crazy detail that I didn't bother. But it's it's really

464
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: interesting how the different layers of the scales fused together,

465
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: going from like really rigid to really appliable, and that

466
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: allows those fish to be able to move. But still,

467
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,959
Speaker 1: you know, like have predators teeth bounce off of them again? Right, Well, okay,

468
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: so with that said, I know somebody who who probably

469
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: wishes they had some carp scales wrapped around their leg

470
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: not too long ago. And this story has been all over,

471
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: but we can't I can't not bring it back up again.

472
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: You got to bring it up. It has to because

473
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: it's just so unique and I've got so much to say.

474
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: That was a really good segue, by the way, like

475
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: nicely done taking that, and yeah, that was well done.

476
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: I was straight off the cuff. Dude, man nailed it,

477
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. This is coming from the New York Post.

478
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: Not even the lakes are safe this summer. Now, there's

479
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: been some sharp ark attacks, right, pretty bad one up

480
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: in Maine. But Kim Driver was standing chest deep on

481
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: the beach at North Star Village along the Winnipeg River

482
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: near Minaki, Ontario, when she was attacked by a musk

483
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: a lung fish commonly known as a muskie which had heads.

484
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: Musk along attacked by a musk along, which had heads

485
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: resembling alligators and can grow up to six ft long

486
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: and weigh more than fifty pounds. Now quote here, All

487
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she just said, someone, not something, Someone's

488
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: got my leg. And I don't know why, but that

489
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: just brings to my mind, like the the dingo took

490
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: the baby. Quote someone's got my leg. Dingle took the baby.

491
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: And then she started screaming and her arms went up

492
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: and she went underwater, and uh, we all kind of

493
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: stood there in complete disbelief and didn't know what was

494
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: going on. Kim's husband, Terry told Vice, now you've probably

495
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: seen the pictures a lot of us. I mean the damages.

496
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: No poke, right, says Kim suffered extensive damage to her

497
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: right leg and was taken to the hospital. And then

498
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Terry tear as I like to call him, goes on

499
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: say it completely engulfed her calf from pretty much need

500
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: an ankle. Uh, nobody's ever seen a musky t bone

501
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: someone's calf. Now, the way I'm reading and interpreting this

502
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: is that this muskie actually pulled Kim under allah the

503
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: little kindner boy in Jaws, which I find a little

504
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: hard to believe. I don't know, maybe right like she

505
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: she she was not like a super petite lady, and

506
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: I can understand if this was a little kid. Anyway,

507
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the story is this. Meanwhile, Terry

508
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: is out for revenge. The couple plan on visiting the

509
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: lake this weekend, and while Kim said she will stay

510
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: out of the water, Terry said, I might throw a

511
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: couple of musky lowres in that particular area and see

512
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: if I can get a little bit of payback. You won't, Terry.

513
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: That's my prediction, because muskies just sucked, and I'm convinced

514
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: they'll be quicker to eat the curly tail grub you're

515
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: throwing for croppy is on six pound tests or your

516
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: wife's leg faster than a proper musky Laura fly. I mean,

517
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, if he was going to be really serious

518
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: about this, he might have to say, hey, honey, I'm sorry,

519
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need a chunk your leg. We need

520
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: some bait. We know what it's after, bloods in the water.

521
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: He's already had a taste of you. He'll come back

522
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: for more. This is totally some ship that would happen

523
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: to me, and it would happen on day five of

524
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: another Musky list Musky fly fishing bender like zero action,

525
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: but my my, my foot would get severed or like

526
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I tossed the ships who in for a cool dip

527
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: and down would go scribbles, no shaking, no tender rice,

528
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: like the irony, the whole thing, you know what I mean?

529
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm sorry, dude, Like I've said this before,

530
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: so I don't mind saying it again to me. I

531
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: think muskies are overrated and I'll put that on record, Like,

532
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I personally would much rather spend serious coin to fly

533
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: up to Saskatchewan, you know, and spend three or four

534
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: days reefing on forty plus inch pike, then spend three

535
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: or four days trying to get one muskie to you.

536
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: But that that's just me. But that's what they do.

537
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: They bite your leg, they killed the dog. I remember

538
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 1: that story story. You can throw them bucktails all day

539
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: long and they don't give a shit. Yeah that I

540
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, they've seen a zillion bucktails. They haven't

541
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: had very many dogs, snacks like, I can understand them

542
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: once some diversity and the like. Screw those things. I've

543
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: eaten those before. Nothing good happens out of that. I

544
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: cannot agree with you, though, because but it's partially because

545
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: of my history, Like I got bit by the musky

546
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: bug when I was probably seven years old. You have

547
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: not been able to shake it. And I just got

548
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: done filming the episode that you all of you out

549
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: there will get to see. And I know what a

550
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: pain in the ast they are. And that's still I

551
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: can't quit them. Yeah, I just I can't quit you. No, no, no, dude.

552
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: And and and I get it right, I like to

553
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: joke around and mouth off about my my disdain for muskies.

554
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: But again that's also just geographical. Like if I grew

555
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: up in the Midwest, in Minnesota, Wisconsin, I would be

556
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: that guy, and we have plenty of them here on

557
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: the East Coast, but there's so many other things, like

558
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: people always bust there like you still haven't have you

559
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I haven't, but I could have

560
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: if every time I had free time to go fish.

561
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm doing nothing but that until it

562
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: gets done. But I see, I can't bring myself to

563
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: do that now, like a little musky here, a little

564
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: musky there. But I also recognized that's not the way,

565
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: like the the way to get things done if you

566
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: really have a musky goal. I mean I don't. I

567
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: don't know if i'd agree with that. I'd say that

568
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: a healthy balance is good in anyone's life, no matter

569
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: what you're doing, and that includes fishing. And you should

570
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: fish for musky when it's fun, and then when you

571
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: get annoyed, go grab some worms and fill a cooler

572
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: with pan fish and giggle like a four year old kid.

573
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: That's what I think you should do. You gotta get

574
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: that balance in there. That's just my opinion. I hope

575
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: we will continue to cover musky and pike attack stories

576
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: because they are endlessly interesting to be And this one's

577
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: different than anyone I've ever seen. Like you hear a

578
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: lot about oh it was attacking the someone was was

579
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, had their fingers in the water and saw

580
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: some jewelry and that bit the finger and cut the finger.

581
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: This is a different level of musky aggression you think

582
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: about it. Even if the report is three quarters true,

583
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: that had to be one big ass musky. That wasn't

584
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the thirty two inch or that will be my first

585
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: fly musky after all that time in Afria. No, No,

586
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: definitely not. That was really not a small one. One

587
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: thing I will say is that that now is the

588
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: time to go musky fishing. Uh. Musky populations in North

589
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: America are in better shape than they've been in in generations.

590
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: They're doing really well. That we are living in the

591
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: golden age of musky fishing, But we're we're not living

592
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: in the golden age of of reefs. Reefs are not

593
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: doing that great right now. And I'm gonna throw another

594
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: question out as I get into the story for you personally,

595
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: are you you kind of strict me? Maybe maybe you're

596
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: you're kind of a probiotics guy. Spent a lot of

597
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: time thinking about your your gut biome. Oh, I spent

598
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking about my gut but just

599
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: more so how awful it is. My gut biome lives

600
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: on cheese kords in line in Google's I wish it

601
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: once cheese currents. I don't have those here. I just

602
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: do Freedo's. Uh notcho cheese damp Those are delicious, all right,

603
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really into probiotics either, but this

604
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: story has got me thinking about prob probiotics and maybe

605
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: being more of a fan in than in general, because

606
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: you know how, like you know, of the planet's coral

607
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: reefs are dying as we speak, and you know how,

608
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: like coral reefs are home to of all the marine

609
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: life on the planet, including some badass fish that we

610
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: both like to catch. Indeed, well so, this research team

611
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: that includes members from Brazil, the US, the UK, and

612
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Australia recently found that feeding corals probiotics improves their health

613
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: and helps them survive stresses, including heat stress, which is

614
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: one of the main things killing off all the reefs.

615
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: So far, yes, yes, so far this is only worked

616
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: in a lab setting, But the researchers are are when

617
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: they can find a way to scale this up and

618
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: and use it to help combat the massive reef die

619
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: offs that are happening everywhere. So I read a couple

620
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: of articles on this, and I'm gonna admit something I

621
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't actually dig up, like the peer reviewed journal study.

622
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: I just I just read the articles about it. But

623
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going around now, you know

624
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, just in general, was peer reviewed stuff

625
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: just whatever is on Facebook. That's really hard. You know.

626
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: It has a lot of big words in it, and

627
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't I'm I'm scared of them, but uh, I'm

628
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: pretty sure that that they're not actually going out and

629
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: like spreading yogurt on the reefs. That's just an analogy

630
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: so that stupid non scientists like me can better understand

631
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: what they're doing. Like, no one's going out in the

632
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: Great Berry Reef with ocean tankers full of that that

633
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: that awesome yogurt, you know, the one with the kangaroo

634
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: on the label and just closing the reef down with

635
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: like a covering it. But that that is the image

636
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: that I cannot get out of my head, and I

637
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: wish that's actually what it was. So that's my question.

638
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Do they talk about how they would on a grander

639
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: scale administer something like that. The At this point, what

640
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: I understand is that their their bacteria right there, these

641
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: these beneficial bacteria that when they add them into these

642
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: closed systems like the tanks that they're growing this reefs,

643
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: and that the coral that had these these beneficial bacteria

644
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: added into those tanks, we're better able to survive stress.

645
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: So there was no talk about the actual mechanism for

646
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: deploying this at this point. I think they're still trying

647
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: to figure out the details that I think all they've

648
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: got so far is like, hey man, we got this

649
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: bacteria that makes the coral stronger. What are we gonna

650
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: do about it? Because this might help? And I hope

651
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: they figured out and and again I'm sure it's not

652
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: like a yogurt blaster, but I kind of wish it was. Yeah,

653
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: like that's what I buy for myself as those squeeze

654
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: yogurts dan And there's no probiotics in that, but it's

655
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: just like one like squeeze coral reef talking about yeah,

656
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: go gurt, go gurt. I forgot about gogurt. They tried

657
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: to make it interesting for the kids by putting somebody

658
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: with a skateboard helmet on it. You don't need those

659
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: fre doos. Here's some go gurt. It's cool to go gurt.

660
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah ah man, Well, I mean they that that's good news,

661
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: and we certainly need that. I just hope that some

662
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: day I actually end up in one of the places,

663
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: like I've never fished the Great Barrier or anything, So

664
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: I hope they figure it out and I get there.

665
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: But that costs a lot of money. That's why I

666
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: car like to go back to your other story. That's

667
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: why I carp fish and don't do arapaima. You know

668
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: what I mean here. But I like knowing that they're there.

669
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: It makes me feel good. Well, okay, if that makes

670
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: you feel good. So not only are we gonna save

671
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: the reefs with go gurt, Okay, we're also going to

672
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: lessen the strain on the fish on those reefs because

673
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: in in what could be the most revolutionary thing to

674
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: ever happen to fishing. Kevin Kevin Harrington, a former Shark

675
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: Tank Shark and the man behind the as seen on TV.

676
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Brand has just put his super Angler trusted stamp of

677
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: approval on the bait Tenader hook, the baiton eader that

678
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: that just makes me think of Bacon Eader like Wendy's

679
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: has got to be coming for this guy. It's a possibility.

680
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: He's he's got more money than Davy Crocodile. He'll take

681
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Dave Thomas down like it ain't no thing. And this

682
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: comes from the news center at pr Web and quote Harrington. Unfortunately,

683
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: ordinary jay hook's result in gut hooking fish, which critically

684
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: injures them and oftentimes leads to their deaths. He explains,

685
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: that's why I'm excited to tell you about baiton eader

686
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: fish hooks perfect for catching release fishing. Baiton Eader wait

687
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: is the only j hook on the market that greatly

688
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: reduces gut hooking fish. Now, so we're clear, it's still

689
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: a fully barbed, big ass jay hook. But here's the

690
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: magic alright, So follow with me. Picture this in your head.

691
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Picture a small plastic bell, okay, and your line is

692
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: attached to the top to the narrow end of the

693
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: bell when there's an islet up there, and inside the

694
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: bell is a metal rod that goes down the center.

695
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: It's got a spring around it, and the jay hook

696
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: connects to the bottom of the metal rod at the

697
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: wide end of the bell. So what you do is

698
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: you keep threading corn kernels on the hook and up

699
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: the rod, thereby compressing the spring within the bell. So

700
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: each time a wiley bullhead rips the kernel off the

701
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: tip of the hook, another colonel just slides right into place,

702
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: just slides right down the rod in the place. So

703
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: the reason at least I'd say the baton eader greatly

704
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: reduces gut hooking is because between the spring mechanism constantly

705
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: feeding corn down the hook and covering the tip, plus

706
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: the fact that only the very tip of the hook

707
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: protrudes past the bottom lip of the bell. Of side

708
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: effects may include the baton eator never actually having the

709
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: ability to get into fishes mouth, never hooking a fish.

710
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: All you'll do is feed bait to fish. So exactly,

711
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: So that's that's why it's it's genius if you just

712
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: if you literally just want to feed them. And the

713
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: quote says, spend less time baiting and more time fishing.

714
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Harrington summarizes, but most importantly, help save and protect our

715
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: fish for future anglers. Um but per the per the video,

716
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: it only seems to work with corn, and the clip

717
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: focuses on catfish being caught at what, to my eye

718
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: is a pay leg where nobody ever went ever to

719
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: catch and release anything. Ever, So, according according to the story,

720
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: the full baiton Neator infomercial will air very soon across

721
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: cable networks and social media platforms, which we we know

722
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: means just one thing. Okay, two to three weeks from

723
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: right now, one of our headlines is destined to read

724
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: man combines power of tack to bite fish, call rattlesinker,

725
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: mighty bite, one shot bait bullets, and the baiton Neator

726
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: hook to catch everything fish in Lake Winnipesauke twice. Oh

727
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: my god, the so I bullhead catfish. I can see

728
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: it maybe working, But can you imagine trying to sell

729
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: that to one of the finished fishing guys, like like

730
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: a highly pressured bass lake or a walleye lake or

731
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: a permit fishery, Like those fish are not gonna eat

732
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: a bell shaped plastic cone. Yeah, that's basically you're you're

733
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: talking about like a mini parking cone with like a

734
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: couple of kernels of corn sticking out of the bottom,

735
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: and they gotta come eat. They have to not be

736
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: wigged out or scared of the whole mechanism. Yeah, I'm

737
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm calling bs on this whole thing. I don't buy

738
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: it at all. I mean, maybe prove me wrong. Here's

739
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: what I'll say, Prove us wrong, send us what we're missing,

740
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: because clearly either we're missing something or this is like

741
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: the worst fishing lure idea since the banjo minnow. Prove

742
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: us wrong, you see, see if we're gonna get off here?

743
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: But that actually bend or middle. I know because that

744
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: was a precursor to some serious swim baiting technology before

745
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: the other things. I've talked for years about buying all

746
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: this crap and doing videos, and then I realized four

747
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: billion people have already done that, and I'm just going

748
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: to be a follower taking them down. Uh, the bait

749
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: neater doesn't actually interest me as much as the tack

750
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: to bite fish call. Have you've seen that? Which is

751
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: a speaker that you throw out midst sounds? Um? You know,

752
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean just real fishermen don't don't buy this stuff.

753
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, like I don't know spend

754
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: less time baiting and more time fishing. It's got a

755
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: nice ring to it depends on the baiting. It's a

756
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: great tagline. I'll give him that. It's a great tagline.

757
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: I fully endorsed their typeline. Well, dude, these were good.

758
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: We didn't overlap and uh this was Yeah, this is

759
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: another successful great segways. We're just killing the segways. But anyway,

760
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: now I got to bring the temperature of the room

761
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: down because from breaking the Internet with fishing gimmickry to

762
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: breaking the Internet with skills for days, I unfortunately the

763
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: one that has to tee up our new segment trolling

764
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: with Lance don't you laugh. Don't laugh. And I'm sure

765
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: all of you are already familiar with Internet fishing phenomenon

766
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: Lance V. And if I'm being honest, this is why

767
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm pissed. I was totally against this segment. I really

768
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: wanted absolutely nothing to do with this because our budget

769
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: here at Bent is kind of dog shit and the

770
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: only way to get a celebrity quote celebrity celebrity bullshit

771
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: like Lances to just fully pay up right, And this

772
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: is like we pissed away months on negotiations. We had

773
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: to deal with his lawyer who was subsequently his mom.

774
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: But Miles thought it was worth it because in the

775
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: modern age, being a successful Internet fisherman is probably more

776
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: important than most of you than being real fisherman. And

777
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Lance and Lances obviously the Tony Robbins of Internet fishing.

778
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Wisdom to the land, to the boats, to the like,

779
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: to the sea, getting up the n on net put

780
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: your boy lads, what's up? Wanna beast? Welcome back to

781
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: trolling with Lance. I'm Lance Vie, better known as Extreme

782
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: Hog Ropers nine because when I'm not winning an Internet

783
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: fishing I'm either roping hogs or sixty nine in probably

784
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: with your mom hashtag mill squad. Today, I'm gonna teach

785
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: you how to comment on YouTube videos. Most of you

786
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: put no thought or effort into this valuable and important craft.

787
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: You just vomit whatever bullshit comes to the top of

788
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: your head through your little keyboards. Harmless, right wrong. You're

789
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: ruining the Internet and wasting my time making me scroll

790
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: through your useless words. Typing nice fish bro or great

791
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: video shows everyone who knows anything about Internet fishing that

792
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: your opposer. YouTube comments were invented for one reason, and

793
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: one reason only, to prove you're better than other anglers

794
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: by pointing out everything they do wrong and insulting their

795
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: little bitch egos. Your job is to tear down all

796
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: who threatened you. Wish your be everybody with a YouTube

797
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: fishing channel. If you're a genius like me in the

798
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: Google squad hashtag Google for life, you'll find endless ways

799
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: to attack and harass other people's VIDs. But here are

800
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: my top five starting points from those of you who

801
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: don't have the natural gift of shipping on other people

802
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: that I do. Numero one fish size, duh, this is obvious.

803
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Everyone else is fish or small no matter what, even

804
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: if they look big. You claim wide angle lens is

805
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: fully extended arms, or my favorite small hands. I always

806
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: have hold it closer to the camera. In a word document,

807
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: ready to cut and paste into the common section of

808
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: any given video hashtag tiny hands, Numero dose technique. In

809
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: any fishing video, you can find something that could have

810
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: been done better casting, fish, fighting, lipping, flipping, or netting

811
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Think of this like a treasure hunt.

812
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: Somewhere in that half hour video is a mistake. It

813
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: might be in the corner of the frame for half

814
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: a second, but I promise it's there, you just have

815
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: to find it. When you do, you can prove to

816
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: all of YouTube that everything that person does or says

817
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: is bullshit, because seriously, who needs to look down to

818
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: find their trolling motor pedal? Only a loser who doesn't

819
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: know anything about fishing. Hashtag it's under your foot nw

820
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: merrow trays gear. If everything but the rotten reel isn't

821
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: a Google Squad product, it's useless, period. Tell everyone new

822
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: Merrow four hot spotting. Look really hard at the background

823
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: of every bid. If you find any landmark, a rock,

824
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: formation of building, a damn, a sewer treatment plant, a tree,

825
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: really anything at all that could be identified by the

826
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: human eye, calling a spot earner for giving away intel

827
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: on your super secret spot if you legit know the spot,

828
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: totally naming in the comments and add that you've been

829
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: fishing there for years. If you have no idea, put

830
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: them on notice by just commenting I know where you're at.

831
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: When they follow your comment looking for verification, do not respond.

832
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: They'll lose sleep over that ship. Hashtag burned hashtag keep

833
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: them guessing Numero five Arino hashtag it if you can't

834
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: find anything at all to talk about a video, which

835
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: is super rare. I pull from a stack of hashtag burns,

836
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: whether they fit the FID or not. Examples include hashtag

837
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: bed snag and hashtag private pond, hashtag stocker, hashtag anyone

838
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: can hire a guide, hashtag live bait, hashtag pet pass,

839
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: hashtag skinny sprinkle them shits around man like Benjamin's in

840
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: a trap video. Remember, no one reads YouTube comments or

841
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: any Internet comments to feel better about themselves or humanity.

842
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: The whole purpose is to remind us why we all

843
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: hate each other. Comments offers a safe space where you

844
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: can attack of the people without having to back any

845
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: of it up with facts. Please use the comments section

846
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: as God intended. Hashtag Jesus take the wheel. That's it

847
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: for this week's edition of Trolling with Lands. As always,

848
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: Joe and Miles, You're welcome. I'm the only thing given

849
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: this lame ass podcast any Internet cred I keep doing

850
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: this and sell them part of the goon Squad, which

851
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: just totally happening. I meant Andrew Flair to Wendy's about

852
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: a year ago. He was totally into my ship, So

853
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: hashtag googn takeover. Well, uh, I mean Lance definitely said

854
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: some words and I mean, I guess I think I

855
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: think most of those were were words. What you just

856
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I

857
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent

858
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: response were you even close to anything that could be

859
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: considered a rational thought. Joe, I know you've you've posted

860
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: a few fishing videos to YouTube couple in your past.

861
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: Lance ever throw any shade your way? You know, I'd

862
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: have to go back and look through the comments. But

863
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the dude so all over the place, so ubiquitous,

864
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: he probably did. I I don't know if it's if

865
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: his lance, but I may or may not have been

866
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: the victim of a few hashtag pet bass and hashtag

867
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: pet trout in my day. You know. And now that

868
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: I understand that that's a strategy of internet fishing pros,

869
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: I feel less hurt by them. I'm like, Oh, that

870
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: guy wasn't really he was just doing his thing, you know,

871
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: he was actually smart strategy. It's a strategy, it really is.

872
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: So every tackle shop and fly shop you've ever been

873
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: to has a sale bin, right, well, all the good

874
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: ones I go to, Yeah, except most of most of

875
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: the time they're just filled with junk that nobody else

876
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: wants or needs. So welcome to our version of that,

877
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: the digital saleban, if you will. Why did you put

878
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: the hand to pay? You don't know what I'm getting, man,

879
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: You didn't have to be so hurtful with me so angry.

880
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: Miles and I are both devout garage sale shoppers. We

881
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: love a good flea market. My my vintage tackle collection

882
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: is vast, but COVID sadly has largely robbed us of

883
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: the pleasure of digging through someone else's trash bare handed

884
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: looking for that special something, which means I've spent a

885
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: ton of time on Facebook, Marketplace, let Go, and Craigslist

886
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: during this pandemic just to try and get some kind

887
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: of fixed. But it's it's just not the same, man,

888
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No, I mean I used

889
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: to buy the vast majority of my fly time materials

890
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: at garage sales because it's so cheap and and those

891
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: materials are so expensive if you buy them from a store,

892
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: and not to mention like, every once in a while,

893
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: in doing that digging, I'd come across stashes of federally

894
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: banned stuff like polar bear fur that you can't get

895
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: but Joe I. I. So far, anyway, I have not

896
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: been able to get into the online shopping thing. It's

897
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: not the same, it doesn't bring the same satisfaction. I

898
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: spend enough time staring at screens all week and I

899
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: just I don't want to do that on my days off.

900
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: It's not fun for me. No, I get it. And

901
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: what I do is I find things that I get

902
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: excited about, and I'm like, oh, man, that's the thing

903
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: I'd hope to find in person someday, not in this Like, man,

904
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I would love to find that at the flea market.

905
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: But most of the time I don't buy anything. But

906
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: as I've been digging through these online selling platforms, you know,

907
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: while you you find a gem on occasion, right, most

908
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: of what you find is total trash, just the most

909
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: ridiculous fishing related ship out there. And some of it

910
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: is so bad that I can't help but make fun

911
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: of it, Okay, And that's essentially what we're doing here.

912
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: And this is great because whenever we think of it,

913
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: whenever you think it will add to the comedic value,

914
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: Miles and I will reach out, posing his interested buyers

915
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: to engage the seller and coax out more information it's

916
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: basically giving us license to jack with people. And we

917
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: started doing that with a lady in Gainesville, Florida, whom

918
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: threw up a post on Facebook marketplace and the title

919
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: reads antique pre ninety h N. L. Leonard Rod Company

920
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: Phishing Vest excellent condition. It's like, oh, that sounds cool.

921
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: That's a cool vintage item to super vintage bro. But

922
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I sent this post to Miles with no further explanation

923
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: to see how long it took him to figure out

924
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: why this is so ridiculous. I should I should give

925
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: some context that the Joe, ever since he came up

926
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: with this idea, has been sending me a number of

927
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: these ridiculous posts just to sell me on why this

928
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: would be a great segment. And most of them are

929
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: completely obvious, Like I looked at it and I go, oh,

930
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. We can definitely make fun of that. But

931
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: this one I really had to think about. So picture

932
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: this the main photo, the primary photo that has put

933
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: up online to sell This is just a close up

934
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: of the tag that the tag that's sewn inside of

935
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: the vest and it says H. L. Leonard Rod COO

936
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: Midland Park, New Jersey, size extra large, and I didn't

937
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: get it. I'm thinking, I mean, we we make fun

938
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: of fishing vests on this show, we do that with

939
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: some consistency, and I was thinking Joe was trying to

940
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: build off of that joke, but I didn't. I didn't

941
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: see how it was funny. And then I kept reading

942
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: further down and there's another little tag below the main tag,

943
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: and it says machine washable in mild soap at medium temperature.

944
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: Do not spin, dry, tumble dry at low setting. Garment

945
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: may be pressed with a warm iron. And then I

946
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: kept reading down and re read the title of the post,

947
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: which again is antique, at which point all the stars

948
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: lined and I realized how ridiculous this is, because because

949
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: there's no way in hell that are vest comes with

950
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: machine washing instructions. North Tide Pods in the longer description

951
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: read antiqu high quality fishing vests made in the early

952
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: nineteen hundred. It's parentheses no later than or so closed

953
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: parentheses one years old, and it's an absolutely excellent condition.

954
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you know why because obviously whoever bought it followed

955
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: those instructions, they didn't machine washing because machine washing machines

956
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: didn't exist exactly, So that is why it's museum quality.

957
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh man, this is so perfect, honey,

958
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: you're victim number one. Gotta be So I sent a

959
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: little note and I said, Hi, I collect vintage tackle,

960
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering how you know this is pre

961
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: Can you verify that in any way? And she fired

962
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: right back and she says, I spent a lot of

963
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: time trying to find that answer, but it's been a

964
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: while and I can't remember at the moment. Give me

965
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: a few and let me get back to you with that.

966
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, and end conversation. She's not getting

967
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: back to me with that. She knows she's just been busted,

968
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: and uh, end of the line for me. And dude,

969
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know it? Six hours later, it was like midnight.

970
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: Here my phone pings and it's her, and I have

971
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: to read her her follow up response in the inflection

972
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: in which I feel like it would have been delivered,

973
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: and said, sir, you already knew I was wrong about this,

974
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: didn't you. Didn't you? And then she quickly tacked on

975
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: a longer explanation to make herself not seem dumb. And

976
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: it was like, last time I misunderstood I thought that

977
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: because he he I guess meaning H. L. Leonard closed

978
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: his business around that time, that no more products were

979
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: made afterwards in his brand, which to me is like

980
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: saying every four It must be because that's the year

981
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: Henry Ford passed away business. He just died. The business

982
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: kept going. It's just it's just a classic like Zinger Zanca.

983
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: I love a good zonking, and now I'm allowed to

984
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: do it because I need to tell you people about

985
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: my zon Kings. It won't just be uh, you know,

986
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: for not anyway, we need your help with sale bin. Okay,

987
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: so if you find some bizarre, funny, downright idiotic, or

988
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: for that matter, like super cool must see items for

989
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: sale online locally, please please please send the link to

990
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: bent at the meat Eator dot com so we can

991
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: not only highlight them here but then also mess with

992
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: people in your hometown via messenger. But as usual, we're

993
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna close out the episode with the end of the line,

994
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: well it's not allowed enough. Did you know that I

995
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: was in a punk band in high school that covered

996
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: the theme song to Fishing with Orlando Wilson. Now you do,

997
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: but not only where many pits opened up at firehouses

998
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: and Legion halls across New Jersey because of Orlando. Old

999
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: Orlando also taught me the power of the Zoom super fluke. Now,

1000
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: there are many versions of this tapered soft plastic darting

1001
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: gliding bait fish imitator on the market today, and what's

1002
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: interesting is they're all lumped together as flukes, right, much

1003
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: like any brand of cotton swab is called a Q tip.

1004
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: But only Zoom makes the original super fluke. And while

1005
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: I've tried countless similar baits, the O G reigns supreme

1006
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: for me. There's something about the density of the plastic

1007
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: that makes it sink quicker and wobble different than others.

1008
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: And I also swear it darts and cuts at sharper angles.

1009
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: Then similar quote flukes. Now, Orlando Wilson was fishing them

1010
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: on a jig head for Southern sea trout, which I

1011
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: adopted back in the day for weak fish and stripers.

1012
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: I guess we're talking late late nineties here, But in

1013
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: those early days, I've come to believe in the versatility

1014
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: of the fluke. Rigged weightless on a wide gap hook,

1015
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: it'll walk like a spook on the surface and get

1016
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: crushed as it flutters on the drop right, pinned through

1017
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: the nose on a small finesse hook, it'll twitch like

1018
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: Linden Blair with a splash of Holy water man. From

1019
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: snakeheads to stripe as small as to pickle. I can't

1020
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: think of many fish that I can't get to chew

1021
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: a fluke. Honestly, I never really go anywhere without at

1022
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: least one bag of Flukes in white. If you're salty,

1023
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: bubblegum mathiholate that's a good color too, But you shouldn't

1024
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: go anywhere without a pack of white Flukes. And I

1025
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: know some of you are gonna say, whoa, what about

1026
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: the best assassin man? What about the live target ghost

1027
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: tail minnow that costs eleven dollars per pack? Yeah? Those

1028
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: are all good. I fished those. Those are good too,

1029
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: They're just not as good as the original Zoom super fluke.

1030
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 1: Did you seriously do a punk cover of the theme

1031
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: song to Fishing with Rando Wilson? Oh my god, that's amazing.

1032
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: Damn right, we did, dude, And here's how it went down.

1033
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 1: I remember very clearly. We did this thing where every

1034
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: band member got to write down a song he wanted

1035
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: to cover, and we threw them in a hat and

1036
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: that was mine and it got picked. Eyes were rolled.

1037
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: But fair is fair and um the band side of

1038
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: creative differences a few months later and split up. No, no,

1039
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: no connection, I'm sure. Uh listen. I went to I

1040
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: don't know how many punk and hardcore shows I went

1041
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: to as a teenager in the nineties, usually a decommissioned

1042
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: naval peers for the red that's that's cool of the

1043
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: Legion halls. Great acoustics, man. Uh. But and I was hid,

1044
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: like my secret fishing addiction from my cool punk friends.

1045
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: So I think that's badass. And and I would have

1046
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: gone absolutely ape ship had one of those bands I

1047
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: was seeing covered the Fishing with Orlando Wilson. Themes so

1048
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: well done on your part. I wish you'd grown up

1049
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: where I did and you were at those shows, like

1050
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: maybe you're voicing the awesomeness of that would have kept

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Speaker 1: a band together and and being would I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: here doing this ship right now. I'd be the next Blinks.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for nothing. I mean, I just want the money.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about their music anyway. Those were the days,

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Speaker 1: and I think about them often, and I actually missed

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Speaker 1: them dearly. But life moves on, and so does this podcast.

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Speaker 1: That wraps up another episode. We hope you got something

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Speaker 1: out of it, even if only a few minutes of

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Speaker 1: fury screaming at no one about what we got wrong,

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Speaker 1: anything along those lines. And if that was you, if

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Speaker 1: you were the ones screaming into the void, tell us

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be in void. Tell us personally.

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Speaker 1: We will listen. Let us know what you liked, what

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Speaker 1: you hated, what we messed up, and you know, generally,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Send us an email bent at

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Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com right on. Also, give us

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Speaker 1: some stars, leave us a review, and best of all,

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Speaker 1: if you like this show, tell two friends about it,

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Speaker 1: then they'll tell two friends and so on. I really

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Speaker 1: want to make a coronavirus Joe here, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: just not that it's not that funny anymore. So I'll

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Speaker 1: let it lie. Thank you for listening, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: go fishing.