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Speaker 1: take it to a bank. Together, we will make America

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Speaker 1: great again. Shard. It's what you've been waiting for all day.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America. Now join the conversation called Buck

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Speaker 1: future of talk radio, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt. Great to have you as always honor

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start today by giving you a a

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that in a moment. But before

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Speaker 1: mechanisms for sorting out who's the best from who's not

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Speaker 1: are imperfect, meaning that oftentimes you know they're you know,

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Speaker 1: it's close in camp and they go with one player

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Speaker 1: instead of another, and you know it's it's they're going

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Speaker 1: with their gut a lot on who they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: who they're not. So given that reality, why would you

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Speaker 1: take a risk on a guy who's also a political liability?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you're talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Okay, he's like one of the best that's

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Speaker 1: ever lived. So I guess you might want to take

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Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone saying that about Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: not even close. Nope, No, Yeah, I hear you. Mann.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling, and Sam, I appreciate it. Shields

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Speaker 1: High Mike and Georgia on w m c D. Hey Mike,

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Speaker 1: hey Man, how you doing. I'm all right, thank you

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Speaker 1: for your call. All Right, Um, I just start off

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Speaker 1: with saying that, you know, give a little background. Um,

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Speaker 1: I was in tense Mountain Division Love Amatory. Um, I

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Speaker 1: served in the person to go for My brother Danny

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Speaker 1: was in a third range of third stays at the

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Speaker 1: range of time. He was a Somalia veteran. He was.

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Speaker 1: He's actually in the book Down, you know, my call Down.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the rangers at Fortnight. You're gonna look

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Speaker 1: it up. Take out a VA device for the thank

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Speaker 1: you for your service and thank you brother. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: my grandfather and his six brothers, every one of them

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Speaker 1: was on the beach at Normandy. And I can tell

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Speaker 1: you this and how I grew up in in West

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Speaker 1: Texas and Midland Texas, Uh, watching the Cowboys every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: you know when I from a from a small child,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I mean that's just like ritual. We'd

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Speaker 1: each Sunday dinner and we and we would we would

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Speaker 1: watch the Cowboys. Here. I bet a lot of people

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Speaker 1: listening Mike feel the same way. So what do you

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Speaker 1: think about all this taking knee and the anthem. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you right now, my grandfather would not be watching

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys anymore, even though that they what they did

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Speaker 1: was the classiest um demonstration of all the NFL teams.

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Speaker 1: I mean, after all that it was, it would looked

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Speaker 1: they took a knee before. They took a knee before

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Speaker 1: the anthem. So if your problem is disrespecting the anthem,

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Speaker 1: they avoided doing that. They still dropped the ball when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the American flag and given the proper respect,

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Speaker 1: that's that's uh this do I agree with you? I

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Speaker 1: feel like we're now in the semantics game, right if

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Speaker 1: you're taking a knee right before, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: the moment is at the moment, that period in time

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Speaker 1: of standing, saluting the flag, the national anthem, that's that

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Speaker 1: should be for the American people. That should be sacrosanc Culturally,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying legally, you know people are legally, but legally,

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Speaker 1: these owners are a lot of fire their players. Legally,

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Speaker 1: these owners a lot to say. You don't pull that crowd, right.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones when I wrote the stuff are started,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said if if you don't, if you take

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Speaker 1: a knee, you're fired. In my Organs session and then

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Speaker 1: he and then he come around, you could tell he

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Speaker 1: was it was painful for him to dag I'm taking

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Speaker 1: knee out there like he did. Yeah, I watched it Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think he believes that he'd have a he'd have

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Speaker 1: not just a mutiny on his hand with his own players, Mike,

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Speaker 1: but he'd also have the possibility of people across the

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Speaker 1: league and and also in the media saying that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna racially insensitive you know, people, I promise you you'd

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Speaker 1: have And that's all about players. This is all about

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Speaker 1: black players. Come on, and he didn't want to drag

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Speaker 1: him get a less proportionate number of those players, so

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Speaker 1: he did what he had to do. But bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: he still dropped the ball with the Dallas Cowboys, and

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Speaker 1: he stick dropped the ball for the state of Texas.

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Speaker 1: I can tell your disappointed. I can tell you're disappointed

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Speaker 1: in Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. I can tell

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Speaker 1: it really bothers you, Mike. I look, I thank you

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Speaker 1: for your service and I appreciate your call. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the people are saying, oh, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones he found a great way to m hm. Nah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was a little better, But

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Speaker 1: what's what's the point. None of this is going to

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Speaker 1: do anything to make anyone's life any better. It just

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Speaker 1: antagonizes one half or so of the country, right, but

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Speaker 1: none of this take a knee. Oh, we're we're trying

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Speaker 1: to raise awareness. This is not going to improve the

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Speaker 1: plight of anyone and anything at all. It's just virtue

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Speaker 1: signaling for super athlete millionaires. That's what this is about.

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Speaker 1: They may not think so, but in terms of the

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Speaker 1: reality of what will come from this, virtue signaling for

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Speaker 1: super athlete millionaires, that's it. And people that don't want

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Speaker 1: to cross them in the league and uh, in the media.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got every Linelet so you know what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Run to a quick break here, team

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Speaker 1: eight four four buck. If we take calls, we'll have

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Speaker 1: some spots open up. I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: run through. I want to I want to hear your

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Speaker 1: voices here. I want to run through a bunch of calls. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: stay with me on this side of the break. We'll

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Speaker 1: hear you on this. And then we'll also get into

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Speaker 1: some national security I said, next hour, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about this New York Times communism op

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Speaker 1: ed and also some North Korea stuff and if I

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Speaker 1: have time, sent it Foreign Relations Committee Chairman uh Menendez

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Speaker 1: on trial. This stuff is amazing. And the fact that

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Speaker 1: media it's not really covering is is it's just so blatant,

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Speaker 1: so blatant that they they are fake news. That's I

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Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. It's true. Welcome back team,

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Speaker 1: all right, John and Mississippi w b V. Hey what's

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Speaker 1: going on? John? Sir? I think that's Donna. Donna, Hey Donna,

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Speaker 1: it says John on my list. But good to have

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Speaker 1: you on. How are you doing? I'm good? Look at

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Speaker 1: it's gotta cloudy real quick. I was really disappointed in

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Speaker 1: these and that's all guys. When they knelt them, they

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Speaker 1: were they were pledging their allegiance, but it wasn't a flag.

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Speaker 1: I think they're just absolutely gone Democrats, radical Democrats. And

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Speaker 1: I was really really sorry when there when any backtracked,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a shame. Yeah, it was a shame.

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Speaker 1: Bumped me out too. I've got it. What am I

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Speaker 1: gonna do with the jersey? Now? I'm gonna like have

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Speaker 1: to donate it or something. Yeah. I just was really

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Speaker 1: in the on. I had a lot of faith, you know. Yeah. No, Look,

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Speaker 1: he's a great guy and a great American. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he just he got caught in a difficult situation. So

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Speaker 1: it is. It's it's not easy. I mean, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to maintain good relations with his team, that's his living.

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Speaker 1: I understand he respects those guys. Is a political dispute.

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Speaker 1: That's why they should be kept out of the locker room,

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Speaker 1: off the field, out of professional sports. That's how I

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Speaker 1: feel about it. But Donna, thank you for calling in

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Speaker 1: from Mississippi. I appreciate it. Uh. Tim also from Mississippi's

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Speaker 1: w b V hates him. Hey, Buck, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Higeld Sorry, thank you. Listen you know the Uh, if

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Speaker 1: you listen to the to the news, and I don't

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Speaker 1: care hardly whose it is, you would think if you

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00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: favorite Trump, forget the language you use and all that.

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Speaker 1: But if you support Trump's position on the NFL, you

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Speaker 1: listen to the media, you would think you're the only

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Speaker 1: idiot out there that does. And finally, today, or maybe

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Speaker 1: been late last night, Remington Research Group released the pole

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to know, essentially, you know which side

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Speaker 1: of this year you on. Youre on Trump side, are

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Speaker 1: you on the NFL side? Take a guess what do

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Speaker 1: you think the breakdown was on that pole? Well, I said,

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Speaker 1: based on what the Daily Caller was reporting that that's

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Speaker 1: exactly right sixty four And and I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I understand the media, but but the people. Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: is a dumbass and he always has been. Goodell needs

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Speaker 1: to get out of his tower and get into a

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Speaker 1: state that doesn't touch the Atlantic Ocean of the Pacific

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Speaker 1: Ocean and figure out that two people out of three

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Speaker 1: in this country are on Donald Trump's side, and and

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Speaker 1: that the disrespect that's being shown here, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna do it's going to do them absolutely

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Speaker 1: no good, no good. And I am probably the biggest

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Speaker 1: NFL fan on the planet. I've got three different subscriptions

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Speaker 1: to Direct TV, and I have recorded every NFL game

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Speaker 1: to the last five years and watched him during the week.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm finished. I am finished with him. And

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Speaker 1: and Goodell needs to understand that he's got a brand

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Speaker 1: that he's supposed to protect. He needs to figure out

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Speaker 1: who is he protecting it from, because right now he

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Speaker 1: is protecting it from from the wrong people. Yeah, I

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00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: think Goodell makes I know. The NFL is a nonprofit,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't mean it's a charitable organization. A nonprofit just

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00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: has to do with what it does with the money

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Speaker 1: that's left over after they've paid expenses. But they make

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Speaker 1: thirty or he makes thirty million dollars a year, which

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Speaker 1: a lot for a guy who I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: very good at his job. But Tim Man, great perspective.

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Speaker 1: Greg call, Thank you so much for calling in from Mississippi.

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Speaker 1: Ron in Virginia listening on the I Heart app. What's up, Ron?

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Speaker 1: Hey Buck, how are you doing today? Good? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? What's on your mind? Assume the NFL one

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Speaker 1: for the gentleman, one for the gentleman who asked what

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Speaker 1: you should do? If the gentleman asked that question, then

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Speaker 1: he is struggling. Go with what you know is true.

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Speaker 1: Go with your gut, Go with your gut. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we'll moving on. The second is the one fella who

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Speaker 1: said that he wasn't gonna let him take football from him.

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Speaker 1: And I am so passionate on this. I love my country.

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Speaker 1: My children are so patriotic. It just did bought. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the kind of stuff that disrects me because

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Speaker 1: my little my my six year old daughter, my eight

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00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: year old son, the fourteen year old son, they're so

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Speaker 1: proud of that flag. When they came home and they

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Speaker 1: found out what it was, the first thing they had

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Speaker 1: me do is we had to stand there and say

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Speaker 1: the pledge of allegiance to that flag. They understand the

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Speaker 1: sacrifice of the men, the women, their grandfathers, their father

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Speaker 1: their sisters, their cousins, who are all serving or have served.

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Speaker 1: And if sacrifice is this flag has nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump or anybody else, and they're stealing that

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Speaker 1: away by blaming it on Trump. That flag is the

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Speaker 1: most beautiful flag in the entire world. REPP events so

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Speaker 1: much to so many people, regardless of how people want

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Speaker 1: to trash it. We're the only country where everybody is

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Speaker 1: flooding to get here legally or illegally. Doesn't make any gift.

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Speaker 1: And I'm tired of seeing it stomped on. And I

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Speaker 1: really believe that we need to make your staying to

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Speaker 1: the nuf bale, cut your subscriptions off. The last fella

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Speaker 1: did just folks toduced to you, buddy, I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: of you. All right, well well done, well well said Ron.

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Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to

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00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Foxexton back

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Speaker 1: with you now in the freedom hunt. I so last

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Speaker 1: night there was a little trend on social media. I

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Speaker 1: should probably spend more time putting aside my devices, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm some character in the political commentary matrix,

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Speaker 1: and I cannot unplug. But I saw last night that

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of there is a lot of

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Speaker 1: mockery of a New York Times peace and the official

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Speaker 1: Twitter account for the Times. This was not the headline

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Speaker 1: of the piece, but the Twitter account for the New

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Speaker 1: York Times wrote the following, for all its flaws, the

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Speaker 1: Communist Revolution taught Chinese women to dream big. And then

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Speaker 1: it had a link to a piece how did women

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Speaker 1: fair in China's Communist Revolution? And it had such pieces

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Speaker 1: of I was gonna say, wisdom, sarcastically, but whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it. It It had such analysis of the following. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Communist Revolution brought women more job opportunities that also

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Speaker 1: made their interests abort it to collective goals, etcetera, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: and goes on and talks about the trials and tribulations

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Speaker 1: of of women in communist China. Now I'm telling I

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Speaker 1: want to tell you this because we don't often get

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Speaker 1: the truth, especially when it comes to history and the

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Speaker 1: history of state control, the history of collectivisation. In fact,

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Speaker 1: but a few years ago, or maybe it was more

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Speaker 1: like a decade ago now I'm getting all I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: Thomas Friedman, among the most overrated columnists in the history

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Speaker 1: of journalism and the history of people getting paid for

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Speaker 1: their scribbles, was singing the praises of a command control

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Speaker 1: economy like China's. There was for a time in intellectual

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Speaker 1: fashion among journalists that if we were only a little

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Speaker 1: bit more like China when it came to our economy,

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Speaker 1: when it came to the way our government interacted with

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Speaker 1: markets and the private sector, we would be better off.

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Speaker 1: That's died down a bit. But the notion that more

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Speaker 1: government control and a government that is more powerful in

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Speaker 1: your life, in your day to day is a better

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Speaker 1: thing is at the very core of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat Party is the status party. It is the

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Speaker 1: party of of the state, and they do not ever

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Speaker 1: put the same ferocity into their critiques of collectivist government

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Speaker 1: schemes of central planning. Venezuela is another case study of this,

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Speaker 1: a recent and ongoing one where years within a few

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Speaker 1: years back in their editoris about Venezuela is doing a

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Speaker 1: good job and the redistributing wealth, and look at all,

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Speaker 1: look at all the social justice success of Venezuela. That

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Speaker 1: was a few years ago. Now it's anarchy, food shortages,

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Speaker 1: medical shortage, medicine shortages. People don't have drinkable water, they

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Speaker 1: don't have bread. There's widespread violence, there's political repression, there's tyranny,

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Speaker 1: there's it's to a complete and utter mess. That's right now.

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Speaker 1: That's a country that not long ago was actually pretty

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Speaker 1: well off by global standards, very well off. And as

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Speaker 1: you know, it has the largest proven oil reserves in

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Speaker 1: the world. Of that oil needs some refining. It's not, uh,

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Speaker 1: not the easiest oil to get to market. But back

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Speaker 1: to why I'm talking about China and the Communist the

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Speaker 1: Communist editorial that was just published in the New York

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Speaker 1: Times talking about women's struggles and some of the upside,

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Speaker 1: trying to find the upside to the role of women

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Speaker 1: in communist China under MAO. And this led to a

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Speaker 1: lot of mockery where you know, I saw I think

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Speaker 1: what Ben Shapiro tweeted out, you know, put aside all

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Speaker 1: it's ill, put us on all the ills of cancer.

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Speaker 1: It does create work for radiologists. I think he tweeted

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Speaker 1: something like that or someone treated. But lots of variations

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Speaker 1: on that. Right. You know, if you put aside, you know,

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Speaker 1: sawing your handoff accidentally when you're trying to cook food, um,

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Speaker 1: at least you get to use that bandage that you've

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Speaker 1: been keeping in the bottom shelf, right, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can do this absurd uh, this absurd theorizing about a

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Speaker 1: situation with any number of things. And I am always

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Speaker 1: amazed when historians or forget historians, just when people in

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Speaker 1: the media talk about China and they'll refer to the

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Speaker 1: Great Leap Forward as as though it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: not a great not a great time economically greatly forward,

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Speaker 1: made some mistakes. What you won't here is that the

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Speaker 1: Communist Party in China, which still runs that country. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Communist Party that still runs are only near

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Speaker 1: pier global competitor, which is China, and which is just

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Speaker 1: going to be increasingly a competitor on the world stage

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Speaker 1: going forward, no doubt about it. The same Communist Party

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Speaker 1: that runs it today with some modifications, i know, to

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Speaker 1: opening up markets, and but the same Communist Party ran

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Speaker 1: the country during miles Greatly Forward ninety eight to nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty two. And Democrats either don't know this or don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk about this, or it's a combination of both.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you that in terms of sheer

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Speaker 1: numbers and the the evidence is now in the archives

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Speaker 1: have started to open up. There have been scholars looking

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Speaker 1: at this for uh for years now. In terms of

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Speaker 1: sheer and absolute numbers, the Great Leap Forward was among

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Speaker 1: the worst man made catastrophes in all of history. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the original estimates, which were thirty million dead, have been

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Speaker 1: revised through particularly the scholarly efforts of Frank de Carter,

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Speaker 1: who is as a renowned historian who has a great book.

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Speaker 1: Although it's difficult reading Mao's Great Famine. Great is in

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Speaker 1: very big right, not not great, is in it any

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Speaker 1: way anything other than an an atrocity. But here's what

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Speaker 1: you won't hear about the way they talk about this

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Speaker 1: is that it's a famine and that it's just something

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Speaker 1: that happened, and that it's the equivalent of some technological

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Speaker 1: shortfalls and bad weather. The Communist Party in China still

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Speaker 1: says it was bad weather. But as we have the

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Speaker 1: calls for single payer getting louder in this country and

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Speaker 1: more government control over the economy, and the Democrats just

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Speaker 1: want to be in charge of more and more of

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Speaker 1: your life. Understand that there are few cases of government control,

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Speaker 1: few cases of a collectivist approach over the individual with

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Speaker 1: more horrific consequences than what happened in China. In fact,

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Speaker 1: you could argue that it is the worst case of

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Speaker 1: collectivism in history. And I think numerically speaking, you may

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Speaker 1: be right. Forty five million dead because the government was

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Speaker 1: in control of everything, because the individuals had no rights,

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Speaker 1: and because there were people who believed they were true

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Speaker 1: believers at some level, and then many bureaucrats down the

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Speaker 1: line in China who enforced the will of those who

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Speaker 1: thought that they were doing something great. You you might

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Speaker 1: notice some similar thinking with climate change activists. You know what,

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Speaker 1: whatever cost we have to pay, it's saving the planet,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to have to just go for it.

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Speaker 1: The thinking among the Communist Central Committee of the heads

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Speaker 1: of the Communist Party at the time, now and his

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Speaker 1: inner circle was sure, this might be rough, there might

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Speaker 1: be some bumps in the road, but it will get better,

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Speaker 1: and this is necessary for us to be a great

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Speaker 1: global power. Within four years, forty five million people were

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Speaker 1: dead that would not have been dead otherwise. Keeping this

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Speaker 1: is not just a lot of people know, is a

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Speaker 1: direct consequence of central planning, as a direct consequence of

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Speaker 1: government control. That was the problem. It wasn't whether it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a plague that just kind of happened. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a natural disaster. It was a man made disaster. It

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Speaker 1: was the so called smart people at the top of

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Speaker 1: the power pyramid in China making all the decisions about

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Speaker 1: the economy. We're gonna take people out of their villages,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put them into industry. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the previous farming and agrarian culture, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna make everybody come into communal farms and then they

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Speaker 1: will have to go to a canteen, a centralized food

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Speaker 1: distribution place, and this will all be more efficient than

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Speaker 1: it will be. It'll be great for everybody. And this

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00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: was about social justice once again. It was about making

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Speaker 1: sure the poor had enough to eat. And this is

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Speaker 1: how Mao sold it to the Chinese people. And this

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Speaker 1: is within living memory everybody. I'm not talking about Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I like to talk about really really old stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll probably talking about ancient ancient Greece soon again. But

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Speaker 1: this is within living memory. This is not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: Forty five million people dead, and here's the part of it.

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Speaker 1: And this is why if you want to know more,

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Speaker 1: and I don't, I believe that this is uh, this

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Speaker 1: is willful ignorance. This is a a decision that has

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Speaker 1: been made by the leftist elite in this country, by

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Speaker 1: journalists and academics that don't really want you to know

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Speaker 1: just how bad it was in China. They like because look,

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Speaker 1: a lot of them are, especially this period of history.

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Speaker 1: A lot of us don't really you know, we focus

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Speaker 1: on Europe World War two, and you know, China doesn't

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Speaker 1: really get a lot of attention from us in the

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Speaker 1: twentieth century. But what they don't want is that you,

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Speaker 1: your children, or anyone else listening, or anyone else out

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Speaker 1: there starts to draw some conclusions about how wait a second,

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Speaker 1: you mean that a government not long ago could, through

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Speaker 1: its economic policies and it's disregarding of the rights of

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Speaker 1: the individual, caused tens of millions of people to die

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Speaker 1: horrible deaths answers, Yes, And now this is the second

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Speaker 1: most powerful country in the world after US. So it's relevant.

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Speaker 1: This is relevant. It's relevant to our own discussions about government,

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Speaker 1: and it's relevant to uh, what's going on right now

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Speaker 1: with certainly with China, but also in all of our

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Speaker 1: disputes and debates over state is m in the direction

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Speaker 1: of our own our own economy and the federal government's

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Speaker 1: role and all of this. I'm not saying that the

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Speaker 1: federal government's gonna make us all starve. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: the same principles of central planning of social justice that

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Speaker 1: we're at work in that our work today in Venezuela

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Speaker 1: and has destroyed that country. We're at work in China

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Speaker 1: and created one of the greatest disasters of the twentieth century,

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Speaker 1: certainly in the top three. And you could argue, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's Holocaust Stalin Salin's great purges of the Soviet Union,

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Speaker 1: the Gulags, and then now, I mean, and and how

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Speaker 1: are you even making those distinctions? I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this is tough to u tough to do. Um. This

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Speaker 1: is the math of of of a of widespread atrocity,

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Speaker 1: of unthinkable numbers. But it's even worse than just a

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Speaker 1: famine and That's what I'm going to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about on the other side of this break, and then

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Speaker 1: I think we'll talk about North Korea and then probably

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Speaker 1: get into the monendous trial, so we can lighten things

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Speaker 1: up a little bit because it's gonna be intense. But

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Speaker 1: I want you to know what central planning. I want

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Speaker 1: you to know what government control did in China in

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Speaker 1: living memory. It's now the second most powerful country in

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Speaker 1: the world. It is our nearest competitor. It's a country

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Speaker 1: we have to keep the closest eye on going. I

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Speaker 1: know Russia right now, Russia Russia, but China's our biggest

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Speaker 1: concern economically from a national security perspective, and some of

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Speaker 1: this mentality from the Great Lead Forward still lingers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you still have this isn't like, oh, China was communist them,

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Speaker 1: but now everything is cool. We can talk about the

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Speaker 1: atrocities of imperial Japan and be like, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, Japan is a very different place now, very

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Speaker 1: different government, And that's totally true. China is different, but

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Speaker 1: there's still some of this there, and it's much worse

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Speaker 1: than just a famine. This isn't like this, This isn't

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Speaker 1: just a bad bad harvest. This isn't about crops going bad.

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Speaker 1: This isn't about uh, just mistakes made in good faith.

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Speaker 1: This is about systematic eradication of people who were weak,

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Speaker 1: who were hungry, and who got in the way of

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Speaker 1: the glory. The so called glorious aims of a central,

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Speaker 1: central planning scheme from government experts. It is worse than

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Speaker 1: anything that I think any of you have ever heard

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Speaker 1: about in terms of what's going on. What went on?

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Speaker 1: All right? T him, returning to the New York Times

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Speaker 1: editorial put out under the headline on Twitter, for all

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Speaker 1: its flaws, the Communist Revolution taught Chinese women to dream big.

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Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I did not point out

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Speaker 1: that China has a one has had a one child

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Speaker 1: policy for a long time, that China has waged, truly

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Speaker 1: waged a war on women as a function of national policy,

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Speaker 1: and that has led to horrific, horrific consequences for women

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Speaker 1: in China for decades. But I'm I'm also now focusing

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Speaker 1: or I want to focus back on the famine, which

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Speaker 1: affected women, men, affected everybody at the period that they're

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Speaker 1: talking about dreaming big. Oh, let's what I notitory about.

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00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: People are dreaming big and communist China uh in in

852
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: this period of time under the reign of Mao, when

853
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: Mao Za Dong is calling the shots. And if you

854
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: want the best book on this that I know of

855
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: is is Frank to Carter, which with Mao's Great Famine.

856
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: This is what they won't tell you. This is what

857
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: they even if you look, you look this up here

858
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: and there and maybe some people will know, oh wow, yeah,

859
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: forty five million people died, and this is based on

860
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: access to the archives that have just recently been opened up.

861
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: Here's what they won't tell you, though. About three million

862
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: of them were actively were murdered through state repression, through

863
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: state violence, many of them tortured to death. The at

864
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: the level of various provinces in China, there were records

865
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 1: kept by the communist parties, communist entities in charge, and

866
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: the local commissars, and they did horrific things to people

867
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: because once starvation starts to set in, people become desperate.

868
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: When someone can't feed them, feed himself or herself, when

869
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: they can't feed their family, they start to do things

870
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: that break party doctrine. Once everyone sees that there's not

871
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: going to be enough food, they don't want to be

872
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: told to that they have to show up at the

873
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: collective farm anymore. They don't want to be told that

874
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: they have to do what the government tells them to do.

875
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: So what does the government then, Well, in the case

876
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: of China, they don't. They don't change. It's not representative

877
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: to the people. The smart people were in charge. The

878
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: state was calling all the shots, so they engaged in

879
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: vicious violence and repression against the people. Uh. They this

880
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: is in the In the archives that have been uncovered

881
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: in recent years, there are detailed reports of people being

882
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: severely punished for the crime of stealing a few pieces

883
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: of grain from the collective commissary. Severely punished, meaning literally

884
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: tortured to death in front of family members to set

885
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: an example for the rest of the village. In some cases,

886
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: in fact, Communist Party members made Chinese peasants execute members

887
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: of their family. Had one very notable case they made

888
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: a father bury his son alive for the crime of

889
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: stealing a handful of grain. Uh. The atrocities were and

890
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: this was only over the over the course of four years.

891
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: But the state repression the murder of three million people

892
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: doesn't get nearly enough attention and I think very few

893
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: people even know about it. I think very few people

894
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: have heard of how bad it really was in China.

895
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: And it's not because the records aren't there. It's not

896
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: because there's a historical dispute about this. China is lying

897
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: about it. Of course, the Chinese government lies about it.

898
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: They don't want you to know the truth. No surprise here, right,

899
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: governments lie to their citizens, especially when they've done really

900
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: bad stuff. But also the notion of a government that's

901
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: in control of the economy and control of your everyday

902
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: life for a glorious purpose, whether it's climate change or

903
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: social justice or redistribution of wealth, you know, economic inequality,

904
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: all of these things that the Democrat Party today is

905
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: trying to jam down your throat. We have examples in

906
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: history of where this can go, and they go is

907
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: some horrific places. They always will say, oh, communism wasn't

908
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: implemented properly. That's that's one of the excuses. Or in

909
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: the case of China, it's well, you know, it was

910
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: a bad harvest year or a couple of years of

911
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: bad harvests. Now starvation was used as a weapon, and

912
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: that's the that's another component of the story. That needs

913
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: to be told is that the Chinese Communist Party decided

914
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: all the way down to the village level, after they

915
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: had made people destroy their homes, and there was all

916
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: of this, you know, we're gonna we're gonna turn our

917
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: our plowshares into industrial machinery, and that we're gonna get

918
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: rid of the food, the the productive farms. Than all

919
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: of these different policies coming together and at the same

920
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: time incredibly disastrous and destructive for the economy and for

921
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: the people that are trying to feed themselves. And then

922
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: you had the state state repression, and that was in

923
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: the form of violence, but also the form of just

924
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: denying people food, denying people the little food that they

925
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: needed just to stay alive. They were already in a

926
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: state of constant hunger, but then they were just cut

927
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: off and then there was no food, and that was

928
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: a part of the masses. So starvation was used as

929
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: a weapon to punish people who spoke out against the policy,

930
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: to punish people who were considered just loyal, or just

931
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: to make an example of someone so the others would

932
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: fall in line until they starved to death or it

933
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Because it was a government that was not

934
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: responsive to the people. And it was a government that

935
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: was run for the benefit of those who were in charge,

936
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: who were supposed to know more. And it was all

937
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: about the collective good. It was all about group and

938
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: identity and uh identity at the collective level. It was

939
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: not about anything other than what the revolution was supposed

940
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: to be. You know that this great idea, this great

941
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: lea forward, it was a complete and utter disaster for

942
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: the Chinese people. For million dead, as I was saying,

943
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: three million murdered, and then many millions more forced to

944
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: starve to death, and then many millions more after that

945
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: just starved to death as a natural consequence of there

946
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: being no food. And this was in the twenty century.

947
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: And I doubt any of your you're listening to you

948
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: have school aged children. I doubt any of them have

949
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: been told this right fair to say? Do you think

950
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: the Democrats they don't have access to UH to Amazon,

951
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: to bookstores now, they know about this. They just don't

952
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: want people to think about it, to talk about it.

953
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: They'd rather write, as they did about how the Communist

954
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: Revolution taught Chinese women to dream big. Well, millions of

955
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: them were starving to death. But other than that, maybe

956
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: they were having some big dreams and the New York

957
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: Times should be ashamed of itself, but it's incapable of shame.

958
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton, his back. Um, okay,

959
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: uh where was I? Oh? Yeah, well one before we

960
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: because the North Korea think is going to be intense,

961
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of an intense hour in the show.

962
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: I know we did a lot of NFL in the

963
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: first hour. Next hour, we'll have some friends joining. We'll

964
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: talk about some other things and I'll tell you about

965
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: if you if you stay with me, I'll tell you

966
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: about the hip hop Police. That's a thing you may

967
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: you probably have not heard of. And I will tell

968
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: you and I know some of the hip hop police,

969
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: so and so you gotta just stay with me. And

970
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: there'll be some that's a that's coming at the end

971
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: of the show. But at this hour, there's some some

972
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: stuff to know. I think that it's important. I know

973
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: that that discussion of Mao and the great lead forward,

974
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: it can see him a little Buck. I mean this

975
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: that's history that matters because it informs the way we

976
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: think about governments today, both the Chinese government, our own government. Um,

977
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't set out to starve everyone. They

978
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: just made really bad decisions. But they also thought that

979
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: they knew better and that people didn't have rights, that

980
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: they were just instruments of the state. There's some very

981
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: baseline lessons that are applicable for all this. I know.

982
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm going back down the I'm going back

983
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: down the great lead for discussion. But we're gonna be

984
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: talking about North Korean just a second. But first, um,

985
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: it's uh, I guess you could say it's it's a

986
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: good day for freedom in Saudi Arabia. Mm hmm. This

987
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: is from the New York Times, which I was just

988
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: talking about before. Saudi Arabia agrees to let women drive.

989
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: They announced earlier today that they will end a longstanding policy,

990
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: according to the Times here quote, that has become a

991
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: global symbol of the oppression of women in the ultra

992
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: conservative kingdom. The change, which will take effect in June

993
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: of next year, was announced on state television and in

994
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: simultaneous media event in Washington. The decision highlights the damage

995
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: that no driving policy has done to the kingdom's international

996
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: reputation and its hopes for a public relations benefit from

997
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: the reform. We'll look at at women in Saudi Arabia

998
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: will be able to drive next thing, you know, they

999
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: won't have to dress like beekeepers. It's crazy, right, you know,

1000
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: the show a little ankle, I mean, get to get

1001
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: to see a little uh, a little flash of some wrist.

1002
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes what's up, what's up, lady, Why don't you show

1003
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: me that wrist, little ankle? Um, So Saudi Arabia baby

1004
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: steps in the direction, baby steps in the direction of freedom.

1005
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, okay, then this is at least a move

1006
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: in the right direction. We could say that, um, I

1007
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: wonder and I'd have to do some deep diving into

1008
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: all things Saudi recently. But you know, the Saudis aren't

1009
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: quite as untouchable as they were once thought to be,

1010
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: in large part because the shale revolution in this country,

1011
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: which another area of discussion I think doesn't get nearly

1012
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: enough attention. You know, with all these climate change well

1013
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: climate change, but I mean, it used to be we're

1014
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: running out of oil, we'd reach peak oil, you'd have

1015
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: all these discussions about it, Oh, what are we gonna do?

1016
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: And we're stuck in the Middle East because of oil.

1017
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: That was the thinking in the nineties and into the

1018
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: two thousand's. But honestly, we have we have so much

1019
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: fossil fuel that has come online now because of technology.

1020
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: Oh look at that technology changes things. It's almost like

1021
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: the climate change. People might want to chill because we

1022
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: are decarbonizing over This is without without any um aberration.

1023
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: Here we are decarbonizing over time. And we were using coal,

1024
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: and we're using oil and we're using natural gas. So

1025
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: this is all happening. And the technology also is increasing

1026
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: the ways that we can get energy and everything is

1027
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: more energy efficient, and that's all happening. The market is

1028
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: allowing that to happen. We don't need all these dictates

1029
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: from green energy zealots out there. But the Saudi's used

1030
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: to be oh you know, Saudi's turned the spigot on,

1031
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: they turn the spigot off. You know, OPEC gets determined prices.

1032
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: OPEC wants you know, more in the market less in

1033
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: the marketing. We're all like, excus me, I'll peck, please

1034
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: don't be mean to us. There was a sense that,

1035
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Saudias were able to just drop the

1036
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: oil hammer on us, and we're like, oh no, what

1037
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: will we put in our s u v s. It's

1038
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: changing a little bit. I mean, Saudi Saudi output is

1039
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: still large, is still a big piece of the market.

1040
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: But keep in mind that they thought they could keep

1041
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: production levels up and that they would reach a point

1042
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: where shale was not price competitive. I know, I'm getting

1043
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: into an oil discussions. Those you're listening, you know, we'll

1044
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: talk about some of the other stuff, and I'll talk

1045
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: to North Korean a minute, if I can um the

1046
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: the Saudis thought that they could force the price down

1047
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: and and that essentially shale would be too costly for

1048
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: barrel if the Saudi's kept the oil production going on

1049
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: there end. But nope, oil is super cheap right now still,

1050
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: and just wait until fracking technology expands to other parts

1051
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: of the world major producers, other producers, you know, Russia,

1052
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: mid East countries. You know, once they start fracking, they

1053
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: can fract two. So we're not running on oil anytime soon.

1054
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: In fact, it's probably keep going, which means that the

1055
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Saudi's leverage is less, which means that they're imperious. You

1056
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: need US America for our oil and our stability. That attitude,

1057
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we're gonna take that attitude from Saudi

1058
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: Arabia anymore. It's a little different, a little different. Now

1059
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: we're not like, please, great Saudi Kingdom, don't crush us

1060
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: with your oil prices. You know, we're not all freaked

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Speaker 1: out about anymore. We're kind of like, you know what, Saudi,

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Speaker 1: you guys have been exporting your terrible je hottest philosophies

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Speaker 1: all over the world, using oil money to do what

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Speaker 1: I should note, if you were to pick one country

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Speaker 1: that is responsible for the spread of the worst ideas

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Speaker 1: in Islam throughout the world, it would be Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: And there's no question Saudi Arabia number one on the list.

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Speaker 1: Now that we're allied with the regime, we're making some progress. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, the Saudis have a lot to atone for.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot to be ashamed for. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I doubt they are. But nonetheless, the

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Speaker 1: modernization may be occurring now now this could just be

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Speaker 1: a pr thing. And you know, they look, they're still

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Speaker 1: gonna be lopping off heads in the public square with

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Speaker 1: scimitars for people that steal or you know, for they're

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Speaker 1: still gonna be punishing homosexuals in terrible ways. And you

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Speaker 1: know it's not like Saudi Arabia's turning into Switzerland, right,

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Speaker 1: we all get that. And they're letting women drive, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a start and this is almost it's almost

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Speaker 1: like a borat joke. Right. You could hear like in

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Speaker 1: the country the women that cannot drive, but you know,

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Speaker 1: and now you're like, oh wow, in Saudi Arabia they

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Speaker 1: can actually they can actually drive. Okay, or starting in

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Speaker 1: June not yet looks like a crazy um, but this

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Speaker 1: is a change that might be tied much more, I

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Speaker 1: think to the Saudias anxiety over their place in the

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Speaker 1: world now that their energy dominance is not what it was,

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Speaker 1: and the geopolitical realities are also shifting rapidly under their feet.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. Okay, I went a lot. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to note women will be able to drive starting

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Speaker 1: in June, so there's that. Um. Hopefully we can also

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Speaker 1: get them to not have to wear a face veil

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Speaker 1: so that their peripheral vision is a little better. That

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Speaker 1: would be helpful too, because otherwise you have a lot

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Speaker 1: of crashes and then you're gonna have microaggressions or people

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Speaker 1: are saying that salady women drivers or you know, not

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Speaker 1: as good as mail drivers. But it's really because they

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Speaker 1: can't see through the face veil, you know. But we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that. That'll come. That'll come later on that

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Speaker 1: I'll come down the line. I think I Betsy DeVos

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Speaker 1: has gotten rid of the title mind Guidance from the obaministration.

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Probably gonna get into that tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1: I want to spend some real time on the Menendez

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Speaker 1: story of Senator Whenever I say that, I always think

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Speaker 1: of weren't that the two brothers right who killed? Right?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that the Yeah? So whatever, I'm just saying. In

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Speaker 1: my mind, I associate the you know, manette, the manette.

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Speaker 1: When people say the Menendez worry, I think there's actually

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Speaker 1: a made for TV movie or one of those like

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Speaker 1: true crime movies about the Menenda's brothers come out. But

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Senator Menendez story, which is a

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Speaker 1: just juicy political I mean, a delicious political story. It's

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Speaker 1: got it's got everything, it's got, you know, it's got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of I mean, I'm just I don't know

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Speaker 1: how old they are, but I see the photos. These

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01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: are attractive young women in bathing suits and being flown

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Speaker 1: on private jets and political favors and threats and thuggery

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of it's crazy big scams, and media

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Speaker 1: is like me, there's yeah, there's a there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a trial. There's like a little trial going on with

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Speaker 1: Center Menendez. You know, we're not sure what the outcome

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Speaker 1: is gonna be, but you know we're thinking, we're thinking that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, we'll see I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, compare that too, and I'm and I'm getting

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Speaker 1: out of myself because i probably want to spend the

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Speaker 1: time on this tomorrow. But compare that to the way

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Speaker 1: they talked about Chris Christie and Bridgegate. I mean they

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Speaker 1: acted like bridge Gate was was the um the invasion

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Speaker 1: of Normandy or something. I mean, it was at MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: It was it was comical, except they were serious. So

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Speaker 1: it was scary how excited they were about bridge Gate.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that they're not really the the

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Speaker 1: head of the Senate Form Relations Committee using his office

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Speaker 1: to threaten government employees to do favors for his like

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Speaker 1: international uh you know, babe traveling service or whatever he

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Speaker 1: had going on. Um, I'm I'm going to assume that

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Speaker 1: that they well that they should think that that's an

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Speaker 1: interest story, but they don't, but seem Yesterday the news

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Speaker 1: broke that North Korea was claiming that it had a

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Speaker 1: right to shoot down uh US jets outside of North

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Speaker 1: Korean airspace, which would no doubt result in the in

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Speaker 1: a reprisal in a response that I think would be

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Speaker 1: uh devastating. I don't even know what we would call it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we would annihilate the North Korean state,

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01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: but it would be something close to that if they

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Speaker 1: were to start shooting US planes out of the sky.

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Speaker 1: And North Korean rhetoric continues to be as belligerent as possible,

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Speaker 1: but that's also not new. My concern, though, is that

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Speaker 1: there's this habit that members of the media have to

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: think of foreign nations because we have this we're all,

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Speaker 1: you know, world, the U n and the the internationalist

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: mindset that people who want to think they're smart on

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Speaker 1: these issues, the mindset that they fall into just as

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Speaker 1: a as a function of habit is that every country

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Speaker 1: is you know, kind of sort of sort of the same.

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Speaker 1: You know, we all love our children, you know, we

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Speaker 1: all want the same things. Well, we may all love

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: our children but we don't all in fact want the

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Speaker 1: same things. And the North Korean state does not love

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Speaker 1: its children. Actually, the North Korean state treats human beings

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Speaker 1: as having no worth. They are just means, a means

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Speaker 1: to an end for propping up the regime, doing its bidding,

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Speaker 1: doing its fighting. And Kim Jong un and the Kim

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Speaker 1: regime and all of his top generals and those around

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Speaker 1: him are just a parasite on the body of the

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Speaker 1: North Korean people. They're just parasites. Yes, they're in charge,

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Speaker 1: but they're also destructive and siphoning off the uh, the labor,

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Speaker 1: and the and the human the very humanity of the

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Speaker 1: people that they're supposed to be taking care of and

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Speaker 1: if not representing. It's not a democracy, although it isn't

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Speaker 1: amazing the Democratic People's Republic of career, right, It's it's

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Speaker 1: almost parody, except it's so tragic. Um, the North Korean

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Speaker 1: regime doesn't want the same things that we do. They

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Speaker 1: their leadership. As as much as members of the press

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Speaker 1: may want to believe that Kim Jong an and Trump

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Speaker 1: are kind of morally equivalent, now Kim Jong an is

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Speaker 1: a disgrace to humanity, is a vile mass murderer who

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Speaker 1: presides over a massive prison camp. Essentially, we're just there's

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Speaker 1: different treatment for different prisoners, but they're all in a prison,

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Speaker 1: including his some of his top people. And there was

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Speaker 1: that story I saw yesterday on Fox where they were

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Speaker 1: the claim was being made that the assassination of Kim

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Speaker 1: Jong UN's brother in the International Airport in Malaysia was

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: meant to be horrifying, brazen out there for evering to see.

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: It's like a mob hit out on the street and

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: broad daylight in front of a lot of onlookers. That

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01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: could be sloppy, but it could also be to send

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Speaker 1: a message, and Kim Jong n killing his own half

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Speaker 1: brother was sending a message. That's why they smeared VX

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Speaker 1: gas on his face. Um, but you really also should

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: hear the words of the parents of Otto warm Beer,

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Speaker 1: who was a student visited North Korea. They said he

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Speaker 1: pulled down a poster and they visited untold, unknowable horrors

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Speaker 1: upon one of ours, an American. And the reprisals have

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: not been nearly enough because we've already done all this

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Speaker 1: economic stuff against North Korea. We already have them so

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Speaker 1: thoroughly sanctioned. But you should hear what the parents of

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Speaker 1: Ottawarmer had to say. They were on Fox News and

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Speaker 1: this if you want a window into the depravity of

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Speaker 1: the North Korean regime, this is what they did to

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Speaker 1: a college student. It could be from anywhere. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: one of ours, but he's a young guy. He didn't

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Speaker 1: hurt anyone. He wasn't trying to do anything bad. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it anything that at all, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think they just wanted to They just they're spiteful

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Speaker 1: and vile. The North Korean regime is vile, evil, actually evil,

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Speaker 1: And here's if you want to know what evil sounds

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Speaker 1: like with the description of it. Listened to the parents

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01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: to scribe what had been done to their boy. This

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01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: was on Fox News. But who decides what is offensive

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Speaker 1: and what is acceptable? Is not? Sorry, this is not

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: this is so can we do we have his parents

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Speaker 1: apparance of Otto Warre and beer somewhere in our in

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Speaker 1: our clips here which I wanted to play for you.

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Speaker 1: We are unfortunately having a tactical difficulty with it. But

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Speaker 1: they said that I will not paraphrase. That was obviously

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Speaker 1: Jeff Session speaking today at Georgetown on free speech. Pardon

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Speaker 1: me for the um, which they said that his teeth,

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01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: his teeth had looked like they had been rearranged with

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Speaker 1: pliers when they found him. This is when they brought

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Speaker 1: when the Sun was brought back to the States. They

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Speaker 1: said that he was making horrible shrieks, that he was blind,

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Speaker 1: that he was in terrible pain. And this is how

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Speaker 1: North Korea handed him back two the United States and

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Speaker 1: he died soon thereafter. He was effectively brain dewp when

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Speaker 1: they handed him over an evil, evil regime. If I

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Speaker 1: get the chance, I'll play the clip of the parents

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Speaker 1: for you, um later on in the week. Apologies for

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Speaker 1: the technical difficulty there, because I know we've built up

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Speaker 1: and you wanted to hear that sound bite. We will

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Speaker 1: get to it probably then, UM tomorrow or later on

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Speaker 1: the week. He's holding the line for America, Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: his back. Are welcome back, team Buck. Freedom hunt is rocking.

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Speaker 1: And we have certainly been covering all of the latest

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Speaker 1: from our Republican Party on the congressional side in particular lately,

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01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like things have been going all

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: that well recently. But I want to give you another perspective.

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Speaker 1: We have Kaylee Mckinnetny on the line. She is the

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Speaker 1: r n c's spokesperson, and we're gonna talk to her

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Speaker 1: about all of the things going on right now with

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party. Kayley, great to have you. Thanks so

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01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: much for having me back. I remember I remember back

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01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: of the day doing doing Real News and then your

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: meteorc rise at CNN RNC spokesperson. It's like we're all

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01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: growing up, Kayley. It's amazing. I know Gonor the yesterdays

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Speaker 1: and we had so much fun on Real Line. Real

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Speaker 1: News was great stuff. Well, congrats again on the RNC gig.

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Speaker 1: So tell me you know, and I know you're giving

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Speaker 1: us the RNC line. That is in fact what we

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: are asking you for here right now. A lot of

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01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 1: folks listening, Kaylee, are a little agitated, perhaps about the

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: inability it seems, to get something done on healthcare. What

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01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: do you say to them? Are you just gonna council

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: patients or what's going on? Well, you know, we've been

1255
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: very open and honest at the r and C that

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Speaker 1: you know, we are frustrated. We understand the frustration of voters. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of Republicans sign on

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Speaker 1: to repeal and replaced. I think it was two seventeen

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Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate. But that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: That's one vote short. Um, it's you know, unacceptable. We

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01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 1: need to repeal and replace Obamacare. I know the President

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: expects something on his desk that he can sign, something

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Speaker 1: that materializes on the promises he made and many other

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Speaker 1: Republicans made. And you know, it's disappointing. It's disappointing that

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Speaker 1: some Senators who are promising repeal and replaced for so

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Speaker 1: many years, uh, in fact, when it's time to vote

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Speaker 1: or are not voting that way. It does feel like

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Speaker 1: the Democrats when they're in power, somehow managed to all

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Speaker 1: get on the same sheet of music and get it done.

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Speaker 1: The exhibit a of this would be Obamacare. That's right.

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Speaker 1: But one thing I do say, and I think it

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Speaker 1: is true, is you know, we're not a party of

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Speaker 1: lockstep liberal lemmings, you know, marching to the drumbeat a

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Speaker 1: single payer. That can be frustrating at times. It's frustrating

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Speaker 1: right now that there's you know, a wide plethora of

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Speaker 1: voices in our party. But it also I think makes

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Speaker 1: our party more creative in the long run. I think

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Speaker 1: on tax reform, we are going to be are on

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Speaker 1: the same page. That's going to be rolled out very nicely.

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Speaker 1: I'm confident of that, but um, you know, it's frustrating

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Speaker 1: sometimes having a why diversity of voices means that things

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Speaker 1: like we're feeling replaced don't happen immediately like we'd like

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Speaker 1: them too. And talk to me about tax reform, because

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Speaker 1: that's supposed to be coming up soon, right, We've been

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Speaker 1: hearing about it. But I'm I'm being told there's going

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Speaker 1: to be action on this, and I figured, Kayley, you're

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Speaker 1: in the know, so what's happening, Well, that's right. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I think the President is going to reveal some pretty

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Speaker 1: exciting details. We're going to see I think the face

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Speaker 1: of who this is really going to help, who this

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Speaker 1: is really going to affect, That is the middle class,

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Speaker 1: blue collar workers. It's very exciting because this has been

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Speaker 1: being worked on behind the scenes for a very long time,

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Speaker 1: not just the details of the tax plan, but also

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Speaker 1: the communications strategy. You know, at the R and C,

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Speaker 1: we've been planning for this for weeks. There's been so

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Speaker 1: much effort put into everyone getting on the same page.

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Speaker 1: Half ways of means and Finance and the administration and

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 1: It's rare you see agreement between those three bodies. But

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01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: I think that now are going to see a plan

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Speaker 1: that's agreed upon, that's exciting, and when they're going to

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Speaker 1: deliver the release that a lot of the American people need. Now, Kaylee,

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01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: I know you can't be in the guarantee business because

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01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: your spokesperson for the Republican the National Committee and politics

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: is messy. I get that, but I mean, something's gonna

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: have to happen on taxes, right because if nothing happens

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: on taxes, I don't know what we're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to tell people when it comes to voting in the

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Speaker 1: mid terms. Bucket has to um. You know. I always

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: sit back and I think what binds us together as

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: a party, because we do have so many views in

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01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. While pro life is one and putting

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: money in the American people's pockets is number two, and

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: we have to come together on that because those are

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Speaker 1: the seminal principles of the Republican Party. But not only that,

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: this should be an America concept. This should be Democrats.

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Speaker 1: We should be seeing hide Hi Camp get on board

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Speaker 1: and Claire mccask will get on board. You know, these

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01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: Democrats that are in the middle of the road, and

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01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: they believe in empowering the people, not the federal government

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Speaker 1: like the left would like to do. Take your money

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Speaker 1: and and just run with it. We're speaking to Kelly mckenerney,

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Speaker 1: who is the r n C spokesperson. Uh, Kyley, the

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01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: take a knee phenomenon of the last few days. I

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 1: know you are engaged to a professional athlete, by the way,

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: best wishes Uman, So I know that you know you're

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Speaker 1: somebody who's going to games and understands professional sports and

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Speaker 1: and uh is somebody who's who's a fan as well

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Speaker 1: as very close to it all on a personal level. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of all this NFL stuff? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a lot, but what's what's your initial take?

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Speaker 1: You know, I sit back and I asked myself. We

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Speaker 1: just talked about what buyings together the Republican Party, right, Well,

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01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: what makes America America? Because we all disagree on so

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: many things, And to me, what makes America America is

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Speaker 1: putting your hand on your heart for the national anthem,

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: saluting the flag, saluting our veterans, to you know, saluting

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: these core American values and to see someone taken knee

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01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: in absolute disrespect for servicemen and women. Try to claim

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: that it has nothing to do with that. Well, guess what,

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01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: it has everything to do with that. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to echo what one local radio host said. One

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: veteran said to her. He said, you know what, I

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01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: would just like to hand some of these players a

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01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: folded flag and maybe then they'll stand for an unfer

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: old flag. And to me, that's the heart of this.

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: Stand for our veterans. Find another time to protest, but

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01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: take those two minutes and stand for the men and

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Speaker 1: women whose blood and died so that you could play

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Speaker 1: a sport. Amen to that. Um One more on on politics,

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01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: kay Ley, You were and I remember because I was

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01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 1: over there too, of a a stalwart defender of President

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 1: Trump in the primary and also in the general election.

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: Despite the various and sundry on air ambushes you were

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01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: treated to time and time again. You could plead the

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Speaker 1: fifth on that, but I was there. I saw it, uh,

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Speaker 1: and you did a great job putting on the boxing

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: gloves and throwing down on air. However, now you're at

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: the r n C, and I know you have to

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01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: take a thirty thousand foot view of everything going on

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01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: with the party, What would you want people to know

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01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: or what can you tell us about your perspective right

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01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: now on how President Trump is working with the Republican

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Speaker 1: leadership and Republican Congress. Look, he's doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: He is an active, engaged president. He's picking up the phones,

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Speaker 1: he's making calls. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Buck, Article one means that Congress makes

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Speaker 1: the laws and the president signs them. If you look

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Speaker 1: at what the President has done in his executive capacity,

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Speaker 1: it is it is wide and that we're sending regulations.

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Speaker 1: He's done everything he can to fix the v A.

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Speaker 1: The list is Long's same with immigration, the travel pause.

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01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: But he can only do so much. Republican lawmakers need

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: to get their act together in line up behind the president.

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: One person won a national election. That would be President Trump,

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01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: and it's time to recognize that and get things done

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: because we owe our voters that much. Kaylee mcininny R

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Speaker 1: and C spokesperson and old friend Cayley, great to have you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for making the time. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Come back soon. Absolutely. I always love talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Buck ah Man, It's uh okay. So you know, there's

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: there's some there's some stuff to be frustrated about. I

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01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: feel like we all established that. But there's also them

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Speaker 1: ways that all this can work out. Maybe they do

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Speaker 1: get it together on healthcare at some point in the future.

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Speaker 1: But I would just want to note that a big

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01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: problem here is that no one wants to no one

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01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: wants to be the one. And I'm talking about within

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party, forget about more generally. And you know,

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01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: you've got so many Americans right now are like Antifa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just make no sense antifa um as

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Speaker 1: Trump says. But so many Americans right now are well

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Speaker 1: put that aside. So many Republicans right now, I think,

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Speaker 1: aren't willing to make the case that there's gonna have

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01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: to be trade offs here, meaning that sure, we can

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Speaker 1: have more free market reforms and healthcare, but that means

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Speaker 1: that some people are going to have to pay the

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Speaker 1: price in a sense for making bad decisions. I e.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get healthcare, there will be consequences to it,

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 1: not consequences like you won't get treatment. We've got to

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Speaker 1: treat people. Nobody can nobody can be allowed to, nor

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: were they. I should note before Democrats did all this,

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Speaker 1: you know, die in the street because they're not getting healthcare.

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01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: That's unacceptable. But if people need to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: get on a long term payment plan or deal with

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01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: the financial consequences of refusing to get insurance, that has

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01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 1: to be a part of this or else. What we're

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01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: talking about is just one endless series of subsidies and

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01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: no one really speak the truth. If you're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about tax cuts and we're also going to be

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Speaker 1: a party and you know we don't talk about it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting isn't We talked about the Republican Party much

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Speaker 1: more now? We speak less often about conservatism. I think

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Speaker 1: that's largely a function of who the president is, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone could make the claim that Trump

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Speaker 1: is a dogmatic conservative. I don't think any I don't

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Speaker 1: think his biggest defenders make that claim. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Trump makes that claim. So, looking at what the future

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Speaker 1: is going to be of the party, I understand that

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Speaker 1: it's there's a lack of clarity. Um, But when you're

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Speaker 1: when you're talking about tax cuts all the time and

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Speaker 1: not also talking about reductions and spending, you're you're going

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Speaker 1: to have at least in the short term, more added

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Speaker 1: to the national debt. And you can't be the Republican

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Speaker 1: party that's been warning about the dangers of a debt

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Speaker 1: for decades now and just decide that all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden doesn't matter because you like to spend money too.

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Speaker 1: And I think that happened much more than many of

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Speaker 1: us are are willing to um willing to say under

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Speaker 1: the Bush administration. I shouldn't say willing to say, but

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Speaker 1: we don't think about it because Bushes presidency was really

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Speaker 1: defined by the War on Terror rock Afghanistan. We don't

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Speaker 1: spend much time thinking about how he was in fact

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Speaker 1: a president to increased spending and increase the debt, not

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Speaker 1: as much as Obama did, but it would be hard

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Speaker 1: to make the case. The president George W. Bush was

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Speaker 1: a fiscally restrained chief executive of the federal government, so

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Speaker 1: that no one's making the case. Right now. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about infrastructure and how that might be bipartisan. That will

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Speaker 1: be very, very expensive. We're talking about some tax cuts,

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Speaker 1: certainly tax cuts at least for corporations. There will be

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Speaker 1: expenses to that too. This is not going to be

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Speaker 1: a straightforward proposition where you can just cut taxes and

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: the debt won't go up and everything is going to

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: be fine. And I think that's a conversation that has

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Speaker 1: to be had right now. I know that they're talking

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Speaker 1: about lowering rates a little bit on the on the

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Speaker 1: top percentage, and I also feel like, how much do

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Speaker 1: you really care all that much about a one or

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Speaker 1: two or three percent change in the top marginal tax rate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's night because the Democrats will just switch

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Speaker 1: it back as soon as they come in. Part of

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Speaker 1: this has to be the implementation of dare I say,

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Speaker 1: conservative economic policies so that we can see how they

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Speaker 1: function and see the benefits the growth that we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about that would come from tax cus. We have

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Speaker 1: to see the results. It can't just be the short term. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got something done, and there are bigger conversations to

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Speaker 1: be had here about the debt and about the transfer

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Speaker 1: of wealth from one generation to the next that has

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Speaker 1: been ongoing. But uh, that's conversations for another time. We've

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Speaker 1: got a big race in Alabama. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about that, the Senate primary. It's coming down

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Speaker 1: to a vote tonight. Got that more coming up. The

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Speaker 1: elites represented by Mitch McConnell. Right, pull me in contempt. Right.

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Speaker 1: They think I'm a bad guy, they think I'm a

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Speaker 1: dangerous guy. I wear their contempt as a badge of honor. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they are they have They have helped destroy this country.

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Speaker 1: They have done nothing but allow economic hate crimes against

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Speaker 1: the working minute women in the heartland of this country.

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Speaker 1: The factories went to China and the drugs came in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've got to stop at tomorrow in Alabama, the good

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Speaker 1: folks at Alabama gotta got a choice. This is Jeff Session.

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Speaker 1: See Sean, you know how close I am to Jeff Sessions.

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Speaker 1: I know how close you are to Jeff Sessions. Jeff

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Speaker 1: Sessions has been our mentor. Jeff Sessions is a man

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Speaker 1: with a pure heart and toughest bootleather. This seat is

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Speaker 1: Jeff Session seat. And that's why tomorrow I hope the

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Speaker 1: folks in Alabama send another righteous man, a righteous man

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Speaker 1: like Jeff Sessions. I hope they send Judge Moore. I

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01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: hope they send Judge Moore, uh into the into the runoff. Everybody.

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01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: There is a race that is going to be decided

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01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: tonight down in Alabama, a Senate showdown between Luther Strange

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01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: and Roy Moore, the former Alabama Supreme Court Justice. Strange

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01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: is the Senate UH Senate incumbent, the state's incumbent junior senator.

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Speaker 1: So let's get some ground truth as to what's going

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Speaker 1: on here, or at least some some inside inside perspective.

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Speaker 1: You we've got Sarah Westwood in line. She is the

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Speaker 1: White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner. Sarah, thanks for

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01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: making the time, thanks for having me, all right, tell

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01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 1: us about this race. What's going on, why should we care,

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01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: and what do you think is gonna happen well in

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01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: this race? Obviously, because it's Alabama is such a red state,

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01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot more focus on the primary because the

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01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Republican candidate is likely to become the next senator no

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01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: matter what. So even though this isn't the general election,

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01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: this primary is kind of deciding who is the next

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01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: Senator from Alabama. And on the one and you have Strange, who,

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01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, technically an incumbent, but there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of Alabama voters who don't necessarily view him as

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01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: an incumbent. They think that they are suspicious of the

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01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: way he was appointed by a governor who was later

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01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: removed for corruption. Uh they think that Strange has been

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01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: too closely associated with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who

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01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: is fairly toxic in Alabama. And even though President Trump

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01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: has thrown his court behind Strange in a lot of ways,

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: it's almost canceled out by the fact that, uh MS

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01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: McConnell is so closely linked to Luther Strange. And then

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: you have Roy Moore, this conservative judge who's claimed to fame,

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01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: is defending a monument of the Ten Commandments in front

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01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: of the state Supreme Court. He's a local celebrity, he

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 1: has a huge popular backing, and he's really thriving among

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01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 1: Alabama voters for the same reason that Trump thrived within

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01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: that same core base of voters, which is that he's

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: running as an outsider. He's running as a disruptive force

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01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: for Washington, and right now he's also leading in the pull.

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01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: So so former Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore wants

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01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: to make Alabama grade again. You could say that, yes,

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01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 1: because I see he's got He's got Steve Bannon, h

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01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: our friend, Dr Sebastian Gorka, and Sarah Palin all in

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: his corner. Kind of an interesting split here on the

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01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: Republican side. It isn't It's very interesting to see that

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01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 1: because obviously Sebastian Burka and Stefan and are still fiercely

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01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: loyal to the President on almost every other issue. And

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01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: in the rally that they did hold for Judge roy

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Speaker 1: More over the past week, uh, they came out and

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01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: blamed the fact that President Trump endorsed salusor Strange on

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01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: him receiving bad advice, saying they are advisors around President

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01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: Trump who are not necessarily serving him well, who are

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01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: pushing him to endorse this candidate who is more or

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01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: less astute of the establishment. And so it'll be very

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01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: fascinating to see whether President Trump personally has enough influence

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01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: with these Alabama voters to get them to vote for

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01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 1: someone they're naturally skeptical of, or whether, uh, just the

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01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: idea and the spirit of Trump is um and disrupting

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01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Washington and not being politically correct is what is most

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01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: appealing to them and that would lead them to vote

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01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: for roy More. We're talking to Sarah Westwood, who's the

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01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: White House correspondent for the Washington Washington Examine, about this

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01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: Alabama Senate primary showdown that's going on tonight. The polls

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01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: are closing seven pm uh local time there, so we

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01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,839
Speaker 1: just wanted to take a quick look at the polls.

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01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: As we've come into this. Moore is actually up eleven.

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01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that should be surprising some folks. But

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01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: do you think that recent Republican establishment shenanigans or shortcomings,

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01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: depending on how you want to put it, Sarah, do

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01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: you think that's part of why more is up at

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01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: least going into this? Yeah, I think that even though

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01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Luther Strange has not been in the Senate very long

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01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: and he's certainly not responsible for any of the dysfunction,

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01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: he's too closely associated with it to be able to

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01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: credibly run as an outsider, and that's what Alabama voters

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01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: are clearly looking for. So even though the Luther Strange

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01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: supported President Trump vehemently on healthcare and was prepared to

1555
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: do so on tax reform, it's not clear that voters

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01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 1: can distinguish Strange from the rest of Washington, which they

1557
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: see as dysfunctional, which they see as insufficiently loyal to Trump.

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01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Roy Moore, on the other hand, has fledged to be

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01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: something of an obstructionist in the Senate, and that's I

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01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: think what's worrying, uh the establishment in order to fight

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01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: for conservative values, and that's what's really appealing to a

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01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: lot of Alabama voters. Do you think Roy Moore, or rather,

1563
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: do you think Luther Strange would rather not have had

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01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell said a majority of the rich McConnell's endorsement

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01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 1: going into this. I feel like Mitch's stock has been

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01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: dropping lately. It certainly has, and I think from a

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01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: symbolic perspective, you're probably right it's harmful. But Mitch McConnell's

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01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: endorsement came from millions of dollars from groups associated with

1569
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 1: the Senate majority leader, and that probably helped keep this

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: race competitive up until the very end. There have been

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01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: some folks who have speculated that we're Roy more any

1572
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 1: other kind of Republican candidate, he would have been defeated

1573
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: easily by such an influx of outside cash. But because

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01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: he is such a phenomenon in Alabama household, name some

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01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: one who is able to relate so clearly to this

1576
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: specific group of voters that this enormous sum of money

1577
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: that's being ported into the campaign is still not enough

1578
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 1: to overcome his personal popularity. Very important point there that

1579
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: the establishment comes with a lot of money. It is

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01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 1: in fact the establishment, and there are advantages to that.

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01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: I think that, particularly in the news analysis and talk

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01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 1: radio space, the establishment is almost thrown around like a

1583
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: slur these days. But the establishments still got deep pockets

1584
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: and so they have some some cards that they can

1585
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: play at the table. One more for you, Sarah before

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01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: we let you get back to covering everything down in

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01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 1: d C. Any any big takeaway depending on who the

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01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: winner is tonight in Alabama, what do you think that

1589
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: the two possible takeaways would be if either Stranger More

1590
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: is in fact the victor, well, if Roy Moore pulled

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01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: it out. I think the prevailing take that you're going

1592
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: to see in the media is that President Trump is

1593
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 1: losing some of his clout, that he doesn't have as

1594
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: much influence with his base as he thought he did.

1595
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: It's going to be spun. Is a knock Unpresident Trump.

1596
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: But I actually think that if Loali Moore wins, it's

1597
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: a sign that Trump is m is alive and well

1598
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: in Alabama, that people still appreciate the lack of political correctness.

1599
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 1: They still appreciate the disruption factor, the brashness that that

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01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: is what, at the end of the day, appealed to them.

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01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: And even though the Trump presidency, which was premised on

1602
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 1: all that, has not turned out to be a success

1603
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: so far, they're still willing to take a bet on

1604
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: somebody like that. So if Wally Moore wins, I think

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01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: that it's a sign that Trump is um has not

1606
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: lost any of its luster. Sarah Westwood of The Washington Examiner,

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01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Great to have you, Sarah. Thank

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01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 1: you all right, team, We'll be back in just a

1609
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: minute with some updates on the disaster relief efforts in

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01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and the politicization thereof, and also just a

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01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: bit of an overview on US territories. What are they,

1612
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: when did we get them, and what does all of

1613
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: that mean. We've got that and much more coming up.

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01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America, Buck Sexton his back, agin.

1615
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to take a moment to send America's hearts

1616
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 1: and prayers to the people of Puerto Rico and the

1617
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. Both have been devastated, and I mean

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01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: absolutely devastated by Hurricane Maria, and we're doing everything in

1619
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: our power to help the hard hit people of both

1620
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: places Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, and massive effort

1621
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: is underway, and we have been really treated very very

1622
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 1: nicely by the governor and by everybody else. They know

1623
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 1: how hard we're working and what a good job we're doing.

1624
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: As we speak, FEMA are great first responders, and all

1625
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: available federal resources, including the military, are being marshal to

1626
01:34:54,040 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: save lives, protect families, and begin a long and very

1627
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: a very difficult restoration process. I suppose, in a sense,

1628
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 1: it's entirely unsurprising. It's it's very predictable, but it's still

1629
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,879
Speaker 1: frustrating to see that there are people who are taking

1630
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: advantage of a tragedy, in this case, the brutal hurricane

1631
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: and the the aftermath of it in Puerto Rico. They're

1632
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: taking advantage of it to push a political narrative. The

1633
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: narrative in this case that President Trump is somehow not

1634
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: doing enough, and it's mostly based on insinuation. Right now,

1635
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm seeing commentators from various left wing networks and much

1636
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: of the Democrat media referring to how we're you know,

1637
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: we're we're not doing enough and it's shameful. Well, it's

1638
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: not a wee situation that they're referring to, they're talking

1639
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: about or they're implying that the federal government isn't doing enough,

1640
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: and by that they mean that President Trump is not

1641
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: doing enough. I think this is just coming out of

1642
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: a sense of frustration and desperation on the left, because

1643
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: there's plenty of reporting already on how the response from

1644
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: the federal government under this administration. The response from the

1645
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 1: executive branch and its agencies, most notably FEMA, but others

1646
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: as well, and from the President United States, the White

1647
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: House has been strong. They have been on this, They

1648
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: have been paying very close attention, and in fact, this

1649
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: has been a series of cases I think that highlight

1650
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 1: good leadership from the federal government side. UM, this is

1651
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: an area where the federal government clearly has a role

1652
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 1: to play. UM. We are sending in National National Guard,

1653
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: We're sending in US military to assist in some of

1654
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: these hurricane ravage regions, including to Puerto Rico, or have

1655
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: a few thousand US armed forces have deployed as part

1656
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: of the assistance and recovery effort. But the facts can't

1657
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: be allowed to get in the way of a narrative

1658
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: that's advantageous to the left and so you start to

1659
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: see the early really the the the trial balloons from

1660
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: some members of the media where they just put it

1661
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: out there, Yeah, the shameful response in Puerto Rico, and

1662
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: they wonder if they can get away with it before

1663
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: someone says, actually, the governor of Puerto Rico has said

1664
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: that the president and the female response has been strong.

1665
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: That's not to say that this is perfect or any

1666
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: situation involving the government is ever going to be perfect.

1667
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: But notice how the Democrats the left now have expectations

1668
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 1: or or are pretending to have expectations of perfection from

1669
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: the federal government because Trump's in charge and its disaster

1670
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 1: management and its response to major natural disasters a series

1671
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: of them, whereas usually the federal government they're just making

1672
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: all kinds of excuses for how it's doing the best

1673
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: it can. And because Democrats are the party of the state,

1674
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: they are statusts and the federal government is the most

1675
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: powerful manifestation of the big s state in this country.

1676
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 1: But now they're flipping the script because the narrative is

1677
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,839
Speaker 1: what is most important to them. And you're also seeing

1678
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: a fair amount of coverage of whether or not we

1679
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 1: treat Puerto Ricans as though they are US citizens. In

1680
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: the media, I've been talking about their plight in Puerto

1681
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Rico as much as I can. There are limitations in

1682
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: a political talk show like this. I'm not a straight

1683
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: news show. UH, and I there's only so much I

1684
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: can discuss the disaster and relief and recovery efforts before

1685
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: one I'm already touching upon information that a vast majority

1686
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,879
Speaker 1: of you already know or can find instantaneously on the Internet.

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Speaker 1: And too, there's just not that much value added from

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01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: someone like me who has a background in national security

1689
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: and politics weighing in on meteorological events. And it's just

1690
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: it's not really what I do. So while thoughts and

1691
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: prayers go to the people of Puerto Rico, I I

1692
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 1: just was in Puerto Rico earlier this year. I loved

1693
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: it there. It's a great place. I feel terrible for

1694
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: it's happening. Uh. There's only so much that can be

1695
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: said about it, other than to keep everyone up to date,

1696
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 1: try to get UH donations where possible to help in

1697
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: the recovery efforts, and make sure the federal government is

1698
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: on it. But from everything we see the federal government,

1699
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: the Trump administration is on it. And while the media

1700
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: coverage I do think would be a little bit more

1701
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: frantic if this were the mainland US. I don't think

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01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: that Puerto Rico is being forgotten based on the coverage

1703
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. It's not slipping through the cracks of public indifference.

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01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I also thought it would just be interesting for a moment,

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01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: UH to update, well, I guess updating me as well

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01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: as you on the status of US territories, because Puerto

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01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: Rico is a US territory there US citizens. There are

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01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,919
Speaker 1: a few other territories like this, including the Virgin Islands,

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01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: which was also hit by the hurricane. Where you are

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01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: the U S citizens, it's US territory. US federal law

1711
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: all applies, but you don't have voting rights in Congress.

1712
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: And this is a legacy in in some cases a

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01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: legacy of the Spanish American War started in eighteen nine eight,

1714
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 1: and we took the Philippines for decades and then gave

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01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: the Philippines its independence. Notice how America gives countries back

1716
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 1: to the people. We did it with the Philippines, we

1717
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: did it with France, with really all of Europe in

1718
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: a sense except for the UK. UH. This is a

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01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: a an interesting history that I think isn't taught enough

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01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: in schools. The territories that are U S territories that

1721
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 1: are organized our Puerto Rico, which came into US possession

1722
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: in nine hundred, the Virgin Islands thirties x Guam nineteen fifty,

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01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 1: which has also become much more well known because of

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01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: Kim Jong UN's recent threats. We also have the uh

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01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Northern Mariana Islands, which came into our possession in seventy eight,

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01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,919
Speaker 1: so they don't have votes in federal elections. These are citizens,

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01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: but they can't vote in federal elections, and they have

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01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: a representative in Congress, but he cannot vote, but may

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01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: vote in committee, so it's you know, not not full representation.

1730
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Um And the US also has a number of what

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01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: are called unorganized territories, which, except for American Samoa, are uninhabited.

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01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of the Pacific, the Johnston Atoll,

1733
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:48,839
Speaker 1: Kingman Reef, and there's a bunch in the Caribbean as well.

1734
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: So these are places where the US does have control,

1735
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: but there's no people necessarily at least no permanent residents

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01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: on these islands, and so the status of them does

1737
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: and really matter all that much from a representation point

1738
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 1: of view, becausere's nobody to represent. But obviously, in Guam,

1739
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, we do in fact have

1740
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: permanent residents in Puerto Rico, a few million of them,

1741
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: and they are having a very difficult time right now.

1742
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: Um Puerto Rico is talked about sometimes as the fifty

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01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: first state or as the possible fifty first state. It's

1744
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: I think it's also often forgotten how often or how

1745
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: recently some states came into the Union. People don't think

1746
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: about how recently Oklahoma and Hawaii and some of these

1747
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: states actually came along and and joined the party, or

1748
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: were made to join the party. So I should note

1749
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: that the US Virgin Islands, unlike Puerto Rico and Guam,

1750
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: which were conquered, we took those through straight up conquest. Uh.

1751
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: It was in fact a purchase. That That's how the

1752
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: US got the Virgin Islands. We bought um from Denmark

1753
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixteen, from something called the Treaty of the

1754
01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 1: Danish West Indies. We paid twenty five million dollars in gold.

1755
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: By the way, that's a great that's a great deal.

1756
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: I think the Virgin Alands are only forty miles east

1757
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 1: of Perto Rico. They have been hit very badly as well,

1758
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: I should note in the in the hurricane or and

1759
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: in real need of assistance. But when we're talking about

1760
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: US territories, those are the US territories. Those are the

1761
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: places that that we need to focus on. And in

1762
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 1: the Northern Mariana Islands is the newest actual territory of

1763
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 1: the United States. They were part of the Spanish Empire,

1764
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: and then after the Spanish American War, we let the

1765
01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: Germans have them, and then in World War One, Japan

1766
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: uh sees them, and then in World War Two we

1767
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 1: sees them back from Japan. In fact, they're liberated during

1768
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: the Battle of Saipan, which was a brutal, brutal conflict.

1769
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: Um And there are some other places that we have

1770
01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 1: let go over time, including the Philippines, Cuba, and Micronesia,

1771
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: all territories we once had that we don't anymore, and

1772
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: those are U s territories. But most importantly thoughts and

1773
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: prayers to the people of Puerto Rico. Hey, team, you

1774
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: ever have that moment where you are reminded of something

1775
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,879
Speaker 1: that you had completely forgotten about and you think to yourself,

1776
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that thing. I had forgotten about it. So

1777
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: this morning I am drinking my black Rifle coffee, which

1778
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 1: I of course mixed in some home milk with it,

1779
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: because in the immortal words of Ron Swanson, skim milk

1780
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 1: is water that's lying about being milk. And I was

1781
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: enjoying it very much on the couch and the first

1782
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 1: channel whenever I turn on the TV, which is an

1783
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: exciting thing for me because I have cable now and

1784
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: I haven't had cable and TV for I don't know,

1785
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: six or seven years. So whenever I turn it on,

1786
01:44:55,800 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 1: it goes to this local news channel. It's local for

1787
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 1: New York City called New York One that is somewhere

1788
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 1: to the left of Marxists in terms of its politics.

1789
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they think Bernie Sanders is a sellout. But

1790
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun sometimes because it'll show things about

1791
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 1: New York that I would never pay attention to otherwise,

1792
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: like a local electrical worker union strike somewhere, and you know,

1793
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: I'll do like an interview with the union boss and

1794
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, isn't that interesting? And here's union boss

1795
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: sal Rostacherio. We're here for local turdy toad for fail

1796
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: wages and a fair work schedule, and that's usually what

1797
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: you get on New York One, the local news station here.

1798
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 1: But this morning they were talking about the Intelligence Division

1799
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 1: of the NYPD and I was like, oh, well, I

1800
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: used to work for the Intelligence Division of the n

1801
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: y p D. I was dealing with cases that fell

1802
01:45:56,240 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 1: under the broad description of terrorism, mostly j hottest terrorism,

1803
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: either ISIS or al Qaeda inspired. But there were other units.

1804
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: And I've mentioned this to you before. I've told you

1805
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: about how there were detectives who were focused on anarchist

1806
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: terrorism and white supremacist area nation terrorism, and you know,

1807
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: we had these different units. Now, overwhelmingly the busiest in

1808
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: terms of actual terrorism cases was the area that I

1809
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: worked on. But there was this other group, and I

1810
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 1: knew the guys and they were really nice guys. I

1811
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 1: remember working with them or just being around them in

1812
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 1: the office. But they were the they're called the hip

1813
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 1: hop Police, at least that's how they refer to them

1814
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 1: in the press. And they were an intelligence unit. This

1815
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: wasn't terrorism, obviously, but they were part of the Intelligence Division,

1816
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: which is very, very big, and they focused specifically on

1817
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 1: gang ties to the hip pop community, and so they

1818
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: often came into contact with rap artists or hip hop artists,

1819
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 1: and the UH part of this was a community relations project.

1820
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 1: I think part of this was a form of outreach

1821
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 1: to the the hip hop community and the NYPD, and

1822
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 1: they wanted to have good relations. But there have also

1823
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:28,759
Speaker 1: been some gang activities linked to the hip hop police

1824
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: in the past, and so or rather that the hip

1825
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 1: hop police have been part of me have been trying

1826
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: to deal with. And I saw all of these UH

1827
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: names in in the report on TV that I that

1828
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: I recognize and that I know, and it's because of

1829
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: a lawsuit. There's a detective who is suing the NYPD

1830
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Intelligence Division and suing senior officers in the Intelligence Division

1831
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 1: for discrimination. And I the detective who's springing the lawsuit,

1832
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 1: and I know the senior officers that are named in

1833
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: the lawsuit. And I was just sitting there and you know,

1834
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true or not, or I

1835
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: have no opinion on that. I have no idea, but

1836
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: I just was like, Oh, yeah, those guys, how are

1837
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,600
Speaker 1: they doing? You know, I wonder what they're up to

1838
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 1: these days. And and also I had completely forgotten about

1839
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: this unit that was the the hip hop unit of

1840
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 1: the NYPD. I just I had forgotten that this was

1841
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: a thing. Um And sure enough I tried. I'm not

1842
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I tried to, uh, you know, once or twice.

1843
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, or do we do we get

1844
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 1: like tickets? Maybe? You know it's it's no, no, it's

1845
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: not that kind of a not that kind of a thing.

1846
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, why not? I like hip

1847
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: hop music. I used to listen to a lot of

1848
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: hip hop in the nineties, believe it or not. I

1849
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: was as a New York City native. I was surrounded

1850
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: with hip hop music all the time. And I could

1851
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 1: actually sit here and if I could, I could, off

1852
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: the top of my head give you quite a bit

1853
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: of lyrics from various nineties hip hop songs. It was

1854
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,480
Speaker 1: all a dream. I used to read word of magazine,

1855
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Salt and Pepper and heavy d up in the limousine.

1856
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,759
Speaker 1: You're welcome, You're welcome America, You're welcome, Team Buck. Everyone

1857
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: used to listen to a lot of Biggie the Notorious

1858
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: b I G a lot of Nas, a rap artist

1859
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: that I'm sure some of you are some of you

1860
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 1: are not familiar with. A tribe called Quest was very

1861
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: big in my youth, jay Z before he was quite

1862
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: so famous as he is now. There are a whole

1863
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: bunch of them, and there are other We used to

1864
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: say rap. I guess you don't say rap anymore now

1865
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: it's hip hop. Uh, I was hip hop is a

1866
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: cooler name. I think I prefer hip hop to rap music.

1867
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, we used to talk about rap and listening

1868
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: to rap music. But the hip hop police, that's a thing.

1869
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: And sure enough it's in the news, and it reminded me,

1870
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: or I was reminded of my time in the NYPD

1871
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: in Talent Division and getting to hang out sometimes with

1872
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: the guys for hip hop police. In fact, I knew

1873
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: an officer who was part of the arrest of Little Wayne,

1874
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:14,679
Speaker 1: the well known hip hop artist, for firearms possession. Really

1875
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: nice guy, the guy who arrested him. I can't say

1876
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: that I know Little Wayne personally, but I do believe

1877
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 1: he did some time for that firearms possession here in

1878
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,519
Speaker 1: New York City. Get a loaded I think it was

1879
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 1: a loaded glock. A loaded glock. I forget what model, um,

1880
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, so the hip hop police just bringing me

1881
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: just memory lane watching local news here in New York

1882
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 1: it's a lawsuit about discrimination. But forget about that for

1883
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: a second. I was like, oh, yeah, the hip Hop Police.

1884
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: By the way, that's not the official title of the unit,

1885
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: but that's what the press refers to them. As I

1886
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: forget actually what they're technically called. I think it's just

1887
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 1: the under the Gang Intelligence Division or I don't know.

1888
01:50:57,560 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 1: I can't remember now, So memory lane for me today,

1889
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 1: and that's going to close it up for us here

1890
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hut. As always, I thank you for

1891
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 1: hanging out. Uh. Please do check out the podcast and

1892
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 1: share it with a friend if you get a chance.

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01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,440
Speaker 1: It's Buck Saxton with American Now on iTunes. Also anywhere

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Speaker 1: anytime across the country, you can listen to the show

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with American Now on the I Heart app

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Speaker 1: just going to the app store and download the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio app and you can listen to the show

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Speaker 1: at your leisure so or leisure because I'm not British. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And also please do go to bucks exton dot com

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Speaker 1: slash store if you want to get some gear, T shirts, hats,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of fun stuff there. So as always, I

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Speaker 1: thank you and wish you all the best. And until tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: Shields High