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Speaker 1: the strategyre of normalcy. Welcome to the start of another

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Speaker 1: you here on a Monday, as we are now through

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Speaker 1: President's Week where all the kids head off the school. Heck,

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Speaker 1: not saying these kids are skating. They're still you know,

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Speaker 1: We know that the window opens tomorrow for franchise and

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Speaker 1: The thing that blows my mind, though, Maddie is Peter

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Speaker 1: sustained success. Remember when he signed his contract extension. That

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Speaker 1: was something that he said he brought up to Kim

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Speaker 1: and Terry right away, was I want to have sustained success.

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Speaker 1: I want to be in a place where I can

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Speaker 1: have sustained success. That was one of his questions and

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Speaker 1: points that he brought up. I think in that initial meeting,

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Speaker 1: in that interview to become the GM of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: was that saying success being able to be that team

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Speaker 1: that can make it year after year, not necessarily maybe

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Speaker 1: being a Tampa Bay Buccaneers team that wins it one

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Speaker 1: year and then we don't see them around for three

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Speaker 1: or four years. Right, And so with all of that

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Speaker 1: in mind that Maddie brought up, we're asking the Twitter

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Speaker 1: question today on the poll. Should the win now mode

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Speaker 1: of some teams in the league, like the Rams, maybe

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Speaker 1: even the Colts fit into that category? Should the win

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Speaker 1: now mode of those teams influence the Bills in their

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl push? We know the Bills got to the

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Speaker 1: AFC title game, but your choices are yes, the Bills

448
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Speaker 1: should be more aggressive to get a title now. Be

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Speaker 1: maybe Bills only adjust if things change more in the

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Speaker 1: AFC or see no, there are different ways to build

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Speaker 1: a championship team, and right away out of the gate,

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Speaker 1: far and away, the winner is yes, Bill should be

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Speaker 1: more aggressive to get a title now, which I gotta say, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't surprise me at all seeing it's early voting.

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Speaker 1: Are are we in the on demand generation of living

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Speaker 1: here now or what like, let's get a championship now

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Speaker 1: to hell with the future. Yeah, you know, what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But it brings up an interesting question here, because, as

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Speaker 1: you pointed out, Brandon Bean's whole philosophy is to contend

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Speaker 1: on a year over year basis and never have to

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Speaker 1: really take much of a step back. There might be

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Speaker 1: contract adjustments, maybe you can't keep this player that was

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Speaker 1: a critical part of your team the year before, but

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Speaker 1: you're still a really good team. You're roster strong, and

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Speaker 1: so you take a small step back, see what you

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Speaker 1: can do to make it work. Maybe groom a player

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Speaker 1: to fill that role, that kind of stuff. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think when Brandon Bean says that, he thinks parentially

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Speaker 1: contending we're a ten to eleven twelve win team every

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Speaker 1: single year, somewhere in that range. We don't fall back

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Speaker 1: to seven and nine. Maybe if we get ravaged by injuries,

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Speaker 1: we're nine and seven one year in a down year,

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Speaker 1: Like that's a down year, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But my curiosity lies here, Maddie. So you were just

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Speaker 1: talking about how you know, you were openly wondering, was

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Speaker 1: that initial build of this roster and the construction of

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Speaker 1: this team was it a four year plan? Was it

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Speaker 1: a five year plan? And that piques my interest because

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Speaker 1: I wonder, a was the initial plan only four years

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Speaker 1: in length? Was it only five years in length? And

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Speaker 1: now we're beginning plan two? And if so, how different

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Speaker 1: does plan too look from Plan one? Because now you

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Speaker 1: have a roster where some of your younger players are

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Speaker 1: moving into their prime. You know they're going to cost

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Speaker 1: more eventually, if not right now. And so how does

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Speaker 1: the roster construction change now as opposed to where it

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Speaker 1: was in year one, two and three? So is there

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Speaker 1: a plan too? Or are we still kind of on

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Speaker 1: this same initial vision and just making adjustments as we go.

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Speaker 1: That's the question that I'm rolling around in my head

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if you kind of think similarly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it probably only gets a little bit trickier, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have there in the sweet spot right

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Speaker 1: now with contracts, and maybe it's not super sweet because

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Speaker 1: you have some things coming up this year and in

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Speaker 1: the years to come, Josh Allen, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of money out of the pocket. But you have

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Speaker 1: a year or two here where you can totally take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the young players on your roster that you

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Speaker 1: don't have to pay yet, that know the system, that

501
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: have added value to your team that are starters or

502
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: second string players that you rely on. A Gabriel Davis

503
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Speaker 1: who you get in the fourth round of the NFL

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00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Draft that ends up being one of your best receivers

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Speaker 1: on the roster and knows how to play every position

506
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: a wide receiver can play. That's things that don't happen

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Speaker 1: every single year. So you have this group, and you

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Speaker 1: have this group for the next couple years, I would say,

509
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Speaker 1: and then yeah, you get into the next plan because

510
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Speaker 1: you either resign those younger players or you let them

511
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Speaker 1: go and you start drafting more who are supposed to

512
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Speaker 1: fill those spots. But then then starts the Okay, you

513
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: have to learn the system. Is our coaching staff going

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Speaker 1: to be the same in two years we almost lost

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Speaker 1: Brian Dabon Leslie Frasier at a head coaching jobs. This year,

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Speaker 1: I would say that stays the same one more season.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can go into our off

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Speaker 1: season next year with hopefully the success that we will

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Speaker 1: have had this season, getting into the playoffs, winning an

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Speaker 1: AFC championship, hopefully getting to the Super Bowl, and thinking

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Speaker 1: that we're going to keep our offensive and offensive and

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. So I think changes are coming. It's just

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Speaker 1: can we take it? Can we take advantage of the

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Speaker 1: next two seasons, maybe really the next season before change

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Speaker 1: comes our way. Yeah? So should the win now mode

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Speaker 1: of teams influence the Bills in their Super Bowl push?

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Speaker 1: Your choices are there on the tweet sheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, so weigh in there or give us a

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Speaker 1: call at three oh five fifty one eighty eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty open line for you there to

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Speaker 1: join us. I know a majority of Bills fans are

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Speaker 1: in go for it mode, especially after the success of

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Speaker 1: last season. They figure with a few minor tweaks or

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Speaker 1: maybe one major tweak, it could put them over the

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Speaker 1: hump and in the big game at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. And most are of the opinion, hey, do

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Speaker 1: it now, do it now, do not wait, do not

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Speaker 1: methodically continue to build swing for the fences here, So

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Speaker 1: give us a call eight three five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We'll be getting to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. We have to take a break right now,

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Speaker 1: but when we come back, we'll get some of your

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Speaker 1: comments there. Chris Brown Mandy Glab taking you through a

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of One Bills Live. We'll be back in

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Speaker 1: a moment. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Maddy Glab with you as

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Speaker 1: we are discussing the win now mode of some other

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Speaker 1: teams that have made their intentions readily apparent here very

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Speaker 1: early in the offseason. The Rams chief among them. They

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Speaker 1: are in go for it mode, and there might be

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Speaker 1: some other teams who are sniffing around for an upgrade

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Speaker 1: at quarterback that could soon join them. So we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd pose the question to you today. Should the win

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Speaker 1: now mode of these other NFL clubs influence the Bills

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Speaker 1: in their own Super Bowl push coming very close last

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Speaker 1: season with an appearance in the AFC title Game. Your

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Speaker 1: choice is yes, Bill should be more aggressive to get

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Speaker 1: a title now be maybe Bill's only a just if

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00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: things change more in the AFC or CE. No, there

560
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: are different ways to build a championship team. Trust the process.

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Speaker 1: So early voting is saying go for it now, go

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Speaker 1: get in win now mode with everybody else. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: as to what the listeners and viewers think. That looks

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Speaker 1: like Mattie, So without further ado, we're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet to see if we can get some answers.

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Speaker 1: Also an open line for you at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty if you want to weigh in there with us,

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Speaker 1: and the tweet sheet is always brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, and Tiffany leads us off by saying, one

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: victory away from playing in the Super Bowl tells me

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00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: you have to be aggressive. A couple of key additions

574
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: to an already top flight roster could potentially take this

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00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: team all the way to Los Angeles and next year's

576
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: championship game. Where do you come down on this, Mattie?

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00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you in aggressive mode? Like, go for it,

578
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: let's get this done like this year. Yeah, I am

579
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: totally go for it mode, do what you need to do.

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00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'm like a not over the top

581
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: go for it mode. I'm like reserved, go for it mode.

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Speaker 1: So go for it, but don't ruin, Like, don't be

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Speaker 1: reckless what you have in cap space. You gotta be

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00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: smart about going for it, So go for it if

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00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: you can afford it. If and I'm talking about JJ

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00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Watt or a pass rusher, really go for it. If

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00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: you can afford it. You need to resign some players

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00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: on this roster. I think that's first and foremost important

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00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: importance wise, And then you need to see what you

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00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: can get because I think you have this window, this

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00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: perfect window to do what you want to do, do

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00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: what you came here to do, which is win a

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00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and they have gotten so close to getting

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Speaker 1: into the super Bowl, being one win away from that.

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00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I think you gotta do what you can do to

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Speaker 1: make it happen. And if it means that years down

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Speaker 1: the road, or if it means that a couple years

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00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: from now, you're not going to be the same type

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Speaker 1: of team that you were, Okay, But I also think

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00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean has built this roster to have that

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00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: sustained success with the piece here, with the piece there,

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: year to year as you go on. We talked about

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Speaker 1: drafting a pass rusher and how that probably is not

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00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: an answer for this team this season, and that getting

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00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: something in free agency is realistically the best thing that

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00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: they could do if you want someone to add to

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Speaker 1: this defensive line this upcoming season. And also you don't

608
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You can't predict the future too.

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Speaker 1: I hope there are no big injuries to this team

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00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: over the next year or so, but you can't predict

611
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: things like that. And this team was relatively healthy throughout

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00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: the season, minus a few bumps and bruises here and

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00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: there and losing multiple people at the same time for

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Speaker 1: a game here. But I would say this past season

615
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible on the injury front, even the season before

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Speaker 1: even better than that. So hopefully this year we can

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Speaker 1: be just as healthy, if not more. So. I'm in

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Speaker 1: the win now mode. What about you? No, I am I,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it in a reckless

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Speaker 1: way either, which is why I think somebody like JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt does make sense, because if you want to improve

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Speaker 1: your pass rush, Yeah, it'd be great to sign a

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Speaker 1: Shack Barrett who could help you for the next four years.

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Speaker 1: But you sign a guy like that to giant money. Now,

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Speaker 1: you're not resigning Tremaine Edmonds. You know you're not getting

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Speaker 1: some guys from your twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen draft

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: class back in the fold on a second contract. So

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Speaker 1: a guy like JJ Watt or even von Miller probably

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Speaker 1: makes more sense because while they might be two players

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Speaker 1: who are, you know, just pass their prime, they can

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Speaker 1: be had at a lesser price and still give you

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00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: quality snaps, and in two years time, they're all already

633
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 1: off your books when you need, when maybe you need

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00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: the money to sign some of those cornerstone players on

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00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: your roster to those big contracts that we're talking about.

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00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: If you're reckless, you're going to compromise your future, probably

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: to a greater degree than you want to. But if

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00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: you take, if you grat, that's why what makes sense

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00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: to me though, because if you can get him to

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00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: agree to a two year deal, he's already off your

641
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: books and not on your roster anymore, and he's hopefully

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00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: improved your chances of getting a title this year or

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00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: next year before you have to pay some of those

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Speaker 1: younger cornerstone players bigger money on second deals. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: because and and that's and I know, you know you

646
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Speaker 1: say aggressive, and that can be interpreted a bunch of

647
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Speaker 1: different ways, but I think you've already made the assertion

648
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Speaker 1: that you're not far off from Kansas City. I know

649
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Speaker 1: it may have looked further in the AFC title game,

650
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Speaker 1: because the Bills didn't play their best game and the

651
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: Chiefs probably played their best game of the season in

652
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: that game, which may the game not even look as

653
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Speaker 1: close as a fourteen point difference on the scoreboard, which

654
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Speaker 1: is how it ended up. But I think if you

655
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Speaker 1: assess that you're close, and maybe you're a one player away,

656
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: you owe it to your club to make that move,

657
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: even if it ever so slightly compromises some of your future.

658
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Speaker 1: But I think a guy like this doesn't compromise your

659
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Speaker 1: future to a degree where it dismantles your whole, you know,

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Speaker 1: perennial contending type plan. And so I think I think

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Speaker 1: it makes sense if you get to an area where

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Speaker 1: you're like, well, we want to try to go for

663
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Speaker 1: it now. And you know, if we get a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl in the next two years, great, If we don't,

665
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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna hurt because we're not gonna be able

666
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Speaker 1: to like resign tremade Emmons, or you know, I don't

667
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm lacking another example right now. Or we don't get

668
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: to keep Gabriel Davis after he blows up into a superstar,

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00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber receiver. You know, those kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to compromise that kind of future for

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Speaker 1: the Bills. Um, but I want to believe there's a

672
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Speaker 1: way to do that with a JJ Watter or a

673
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: von Miller pass rusher type. And here we are. You know,

674
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Speaker 1: von Miller hasn't even been released yet, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think all indications are pointing to that happening. Um,

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Speaker 1: here's a question that I want to bounce off you

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Speaker 1: real quick. We were talking in the last segment about

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Speaker 1: the plan, and I wonder if the explosion of production

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Speaker 1: in Josh Allen's game change the plan at all? If

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think they expected him

681
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Speaker 1: to take a jump this year and improve, but now

682
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Speaker 1: he's like you can argue he's a top five quarterback

683
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Speaker 1: in the league. How much does that change the plan

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Speaker 1: that they had. I have to believe it changed a

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Speaker 1: little bit, right, Yes. Anybody that we talked to this past,

686
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Speaker 1: dear Brownie, and we asked the question of have you've

687
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Speaker 1: seen a jump like this in a quarterback before in

688
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Speaker 1: their year two to year three? And everybody said, We've

689
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Speaker 1: at least who I talked to who have been covering

690
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: the NFL for several years said no, I've never seen

691
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Speaker 1: anything like this. And so to hear so many people

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Speaker 1: say the word never seen anything like this, I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine that Brandon and Sean predicted the productivity that Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen had. I think they are two of two of

695
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Speaker 1: the I don't want to say few, but they are

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Speaker 1: in his corner, and they are probably two of the

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Speaker 1: few people and maybe the beginning who really really believed

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Speaker 1: in him when a lot of people had question marks

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Speaker 1: after his first and second season in the NFL, thinking Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is this guy has to do a lot in

701
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Speaker 1: his third season or he is not going to make

702
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: it in the NFL, or maybe he doesn't have a

703
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Speaker 1: future with the Buffalo Bills. I think Brandon and Sean,

704
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because they're the ones who chose him,

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Speaker 1: believe that, yes, this can be our franchise quarterback for

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Speaker 1: a long time. So I think they thought that they

707
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Speaker 1: were going to see a jump, but I can there's

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Speaker 1: no way that they thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: as big as it was. I just think the heights

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Speaker 1: that he reached in twenty twenty might convince Brandon and

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Speaker 1: the front office to say, with this guy playing like this,

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Speaker 1: we can get there now. We don't have to do

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Speaker 1: this slow build anymore. We can accelerate the plan, and

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that prompts them into maybe different decisions

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Speaker 1: this offseason, then they may be anticipated four year five.

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Speaker 1: Because he's playing at that elite MVP type level. I

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Speaker 1: realized there's no guarantees he'll be right back there again

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Speaker 1: next year, but there's no reason to think that he

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Speaker 1: will not, because the coordinators still here, the vast majority

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Speaker 1: of his receiving corps is expected to remain intact. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you have a cab casualty if if you have cap issues,

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Speaker 1: but there's no reason to think he's not going to

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Speaker 1: continue on his current trajectory, even if he doesn't improve

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Speaker 1: much at all next year and still throws for thirty

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Speaker 1: seven touchdowns runs for eight more. You know what I mean,

726
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: like forty five touchdowns? I mean you you owe it

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Speaker 1: to your club to be aggressive and take the extra step.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones though, eighth three, five fifty one,

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty. We've got David

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Speaker 1: Florida here to lead us off today. Dave, what do

731
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Speaker 1: you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live. How

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Speaker 1: are you? Joe Maddie and mister Collins, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thanks for calling? What do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: All right? Listen. I don't think they should sell out

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Speaker 1: for this, JJ Watts. I don't think it's that important.

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Speaker 1: I like to team the way it is. I think

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano, you better hang on to him. We need

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Speaker 1: him for all costs. Okay, I think we got it. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this real quick before we let

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Speaker 1: you go. So because a lot of people that well,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say a lot of people. There are some

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Speaker 1: people of the opinion that it's easier to replace a

743
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Speaker 1: week side linebacker because there are more athletes running around

744
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: in college that are six two, two hundred and twenty

745
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: five two hundred and thirty pounds that can run and

746
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Speaker 1: cover than it is to get a proven pass rusher

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Speaker 1: that gets you ten to twelve sacks this season. What

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Speaker 1: do you say to that, I say, I say, Milano,

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Speaker 1: who has been played hurt the last two years, always

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Speaker 1: had the injuries. I still think he's gonna get healthy,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's the player he could cover. He

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Speaker 1: covers well, right, yeah, No, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's the question. I think the question here is if

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Speaker 1: you keep Milano and pay him the boatload of money

755
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: he's probably going to get on the open market, that

756
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: means you're probably not getting any help for your pass rush,

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00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: at least in terms of a proven player. You're probably

758
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: going in the draft and hoping it works. Right, Okay,

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00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: that's all right, So you're good with that, But I

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00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't how much is JJ watch worth? Well? I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: if you're paying J. J. Watt, you're not gonna be

762
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Speaker 1: able to pay Matt Milano. So it's kind of an

763
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: either or thing. Do you want to get a pass

764
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: rusher in the draft and hope he's good or you

765
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. I stay with the team

766
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: we got. I think these guys know what you're doing

767
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: being and then I think they're on top of this.

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Speaker 1: I think we're looking. We're just looking for more. All right,

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Speaker 1: you go, now, So Dave wants to Dave, you want

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Speaker 1: to trust the process. I can respect that. What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think about that? Man? He wants

772
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Speaker 1: to trust the process. He prefer to keep Milano and

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Speaker 1: take your chances in the draft with a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: I think the question then becomes, what is what is more?

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Speaker 1: Important position wise, How do you rank, like you said,

776
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Speaker 1: a week side linebacker or your linebackers over your defensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I put more value and more worth in a

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Speaker 1: defensive line in an offensive line than I would in

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Speaker 1: your linebackers. I think the Bills have a little bit

780
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: more or worth in their linebackers because they play nickel

781
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: and so you only have two of them on the field,

782
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: and so those two need to be really talented linebackers,

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Speaker 1: and linebackers that are athletic and can drop into coverage

784
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: and can be run stoppers. They have to do everything.

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00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: You can't have a one trick pony out there making plays.

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Speaker 1: You can't spread the wealth among three linebackers. You need

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Speaker 1: two to do it. But I do think a defensive

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Speaker 1: line and a pass rusher, specifically a pass rusher is

789
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: more important than a week side linebacker. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano is more is less important, because I am

791
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Speaker 1: a big fan of Matt Milano and I think he

792
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: has done tremendous things for the Buffalo Bills. And I

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00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: wish we could exist in a world where they could

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Speaker 1: afford a JJ Watt and Matt Milano. How wonderful would

795
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: that be? And maybe it could be that if this

796
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Speaker 1: year was a cap of two hundred, right, how crazy

797
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: would that be if we would have a normal cap

798
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: year and we could have board probably both of those things.

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Speaker 1: But we're in a world where it could be one

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Speaker 1: one eighty two not going above one eighty five. So

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Speaker 1: you have to make some tough choices and tough decisions.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about the plan, the four year, five

803
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Speaker 1: year plan. How much is this affecting their plan in

804
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Speaker 1: the cap space numbers and what the numbers are this

805
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: year versus what they thought they it would be this

806
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Speaker 1: season without COVID, Well that's them in thirty one other teams.

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Speaker 1: For sure, we have to take a break. But when

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Speaker 1: we come back, more of your comments on the tweet

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Speaker 1: sheet and do you want to trust the process? What

810
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Speaker 1: if the Dolphins or Jets start getting into the Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson sweepstakes? How might that change your outlook on what

812
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: the Bills have to do this offseason? Or are you

813
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: just saying let's get it done right now, don't wait

814
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Speaker 1: for anybody else to do anything. Let's just go forward

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Speaker 1: ourselves eight oh three, oh five fifty to get on

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Speaker 1: board more in a moment here on one Bills Line

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

818
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Maddy glab with

819
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: you here on a Monday talking about when now mode

820
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: and whether the Bills should be aggressive in their push.

821
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Speaker 1: Seeing some of these other teams pushing all their chips

822
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: to the middle of the table, the Rams chief among

823
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: them with that trade for Matthew Stafford. You see other

824
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: teams in the hunt right now, Carolina Panthers, Maddie already

825
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: shedding a bunch of salaries. People are speculating that they're

826
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: trying to create cap room to orchestrate it Deshaun Watson trade.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have to see what comes of it. But

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Speaker 1: where should that leave the Bills? That is what we're

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Speaker 1: asking you. Let's go back to the phones at eight

830
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Speaker 1: oh three, five fifty and leading us off this segment

831
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Speaker 1: is Jerry on a sell. Jerry, what do you have

832
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: for us? You're on One Bills Live. Hey guys, how

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00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: are you doing? Okay? Listen, my biggest takers. I just

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Speaker 1: revisit this JJ Watt Matt Milano thing. I know we've

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Speaker 1: talked about it quite a bit. I won't spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of time on it. But here's here's my thing

837
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Speaker 1: at is that we got torched in every single playoff

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Speaker 1: game by tight ends, and primarily, and maybe I'm wrong,

839
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Speaker 1: linebackers are solely responsible generally for the tight ends. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Matt Milano or our linebacker Cord did a

841
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: very good job keeping those guys in check. And as

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher, quarterbacks nowadays are getting the rid of

843
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: the ball so fast. I don't know if dynamic pass

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Speaker 1: rush is as important as tight tight covers by our linebackers,

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Speaker 1: and if that's the case, I think that we need

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Speaker 1: to address both. I think that I don't think that

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Speaker 1: our linebackers did as good of a job as they

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Speaker 1: could have done, and by keeping the Colts tight ends

849
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: had their way with us as well as Kansas City's.

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00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if Baltimore did or not. I'm trying

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00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: remember the game. But what are your thoughts on that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think some of your points are valid here, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: but I will say this in all fairness, it wasn't

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00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: solely a linebacker's job to cover a tight end in

855
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: this defense. Jordan Poyer was often deployed on tight ends

856
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Speaker 1: in coverage. Even tradevious White was used against Travis Kelsey

857
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: and matched up against him at times in man to

858
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: man situations. So Leslie Fraser and the defensive staff try

859
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: just about everything under the sun to cover tight ends

860
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: over the course of this season, using several different game

861
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: plans and different personnel groupings to try to make it happen,

862
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: and nothing came together. So you can make the argument,

863
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: as you kind of did in some ways to say

864
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: the linebackers weren't effective, and then in the same at

865
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't think you were all that

866
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: high on adding a pass rusher because you think quarterbacks

867
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: get the ball out too fast, which is a legitimate point.

868
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: But I think if you get a pass rusher the

869
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: caliber of somebody like JJ Watt, he gives you more

870
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: than just getting after the passer. He is going to

871
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: help you immeasurably in the run front. He's capable of

872
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: playing on He's never played really in a four to

873
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: three all that much. He's played predominantly in a three

874
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: four in Houston, so he's played that five technique end

875
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: position and even kicked down inside and pass rushing situations

876
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: as the inside man. But I think in a four

877
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: to three. I think his value could be even enhanced

878
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: because not only could he play a straight end position

879
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: for you, but you can kick him down inside to

880
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: play a three technique in a pass rushing situation, or

881
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: heck even a one, you know, in a pass rushing down.

882
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: So I think there's versatility there that's intriguing, and I

883
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: think I think Maddie and I are of the opinion

884
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: that it's the defensive line that needs to be more

885
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: productive and needs more fixing right now than the linebacker position. Yeah,

886
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: this is we're going on year two of this defense.

887
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: Defensive line wanting pressure with just four. This is something

888
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: that Leslie Fraser wanted after the twenty nineteen season. This

889
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: is something that he's wants again after the twenty twenty season.

890
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't up to par with what they were able

891
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: to get in free agency, the new faces that they

892
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: were able to add. It didn't answer or it didn't

893
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: solve the problem that this team had in twenty nineteen,

894
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: which was getting pressure with just four, not sending five

895
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: six bodies at the quarterback every single snap. And here

896
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: we are still talking about the same problem that this

897
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: defensive line has had. So you got to address it

898
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: with the pass rusher. I think that's where your answer lies.

899
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: I think a bigger name pass rusher. You talk about

900
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: the versatility that you can get in someone like JJ Watt.

901
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: I think that's super important, versatility wise. We thought that

902
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: we could get that this year with some of our

903
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I know that was an attractive part of

904
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: aj Epeness's game, was the fact that he could play

905
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: inside and outside. And I do believe that he can.

906
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: I think in his rookie season he wasn't able to

907
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: do it at the level that hopefully he will be

908
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: able to do it at in a couple of years

909
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: down the road when when he gets to know the

910
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: system more. And we learned this year this past season

911
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: that he was dropping weight, he was changing his body,

912
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: he was doing other things trying to fit the Yeah,

913
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: trying to fit the type of player that Leslie Fraser

914
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: wanted him to be at. But yeah, I agree. I

915
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: mean someone like JJ Watt who can be versatile and

916
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: who can maybe not affect the passer, Like you said,

917
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: every single down, you're still getting something with him that

918
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,439
Speaker 1: a lot of players can't offer, even into his eleventh season. Well, yeah,

919
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: just look at the highlight reel. We've been running a

920
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: here on MSG for our viewers there for the better

921
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: part of the last two weeks. I mean, he can

922
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: jump up and snare a ball out of the air

923
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: for an interception at six foot six. He puts his

924
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: arms over his head and jumps. That's good, nine and

925
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: a half feet in the air. I don't know who's

926
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: throwing over that. I remember him doing that against DJ

927
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Manuel in twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen and running the

928
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: other way for a sixty yard touchdown. I mean, I

929
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going sixty yards for a score now,

930
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: but he can certainly jump up with the line of

931
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: scrimmage and pick off passes, which to me is just

932
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: as good as a sack. It's probably better because it's

933
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: a takeaway. We have to take a break because we're

934
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: up against the top of the hour here, but Earl

935
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: in West Seneca, Dan and Rochester hang tight, you guys

936
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: are first up after the break, open line for you

937
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: at eight oh three five fifty. As we are asking you,

938
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: should the Bills be in win now mode? Seeing some

939
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: of these other win now mode teams like the Rams

940
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: and others making big moves and pushing all their chips

941
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table. How should it influence

942
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: the Bills in their Super Bowl push. We want to

943
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: hear from you. We'll be back in a moment. Our

944
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: number two of the program coming your way. It's Chris

945
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Brown and Maddy glab taking you through a Monday edition

946
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: of One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is

947
00:51:54,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Hills Radio Network Sports Date, your sports

948
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. After a three to win

949
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: over the Devils on Saturday, the Sabers returned to action

950
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: tonight on Long Island to take on the Islanders. Sabers

951
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: are thin along the blue line as last Miss Ritz

952
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: Aline and remains in Buffalo recovering from severe COVID nineteen symptoms. Meanwhile,

953
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: Jake McCabe and Will Borgan didn't practice Sunday after injuries

954
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: suffered in that game. Over the weekend. It's been nine

955
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: days and counting since the Texans acquiesced to JJ Watt's

956
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: request to be released. The Bills are one of a

957
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: handful of teams reported to be interested in landing the

958
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: veteran pass rush. You're still without a new team and

959
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: perhaps without one until teams are certain of the salary capped.

960
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: It prompted a fan to ask Watt on Twitter when

961
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: he's going to sign. Watt actually responded saying, quote, I

962
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: scroll through door dash for like an hour before I

963
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: pick a restaurant. You're gonna have to give me a

964
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: second to choose my new team and city end quote

965
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: if he's waiting for clarity with the salary cap. A

966
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: report from Pro Football Talk says it's possible that the

967
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one NFL salary cap number will be more

968
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: than one hundred and eighty million, just not a lot more.

969
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: The number most likely won't reach one hundred and eighty

970
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: five million. According to the report, The final number, per

971
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: the source, is expected to land in the range of

972
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: one hundred eighty two to one hundred eighty three million.

973
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: The adjustment up from one hundred seventy five resulted from

974
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: aggressive lobbying by NFL clubs that would have had a

975
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: hard time getting their cap number for twenty twenty one

976
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: down to the floor of one seventy five. Although plenty

977
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: of teams will be doing plenty of work to clear

978
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: plenty of cap space, even if it lands in the

979
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: range of one hundred and eighty two million, and finally

980
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: some NBA news. The Minnesota Timberwolves fired head coach Ryan

981
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Saunders in the midst of having the NBA's worst record.

982
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: They then hired Toronto Raptors assistant Chris Finch to take

983
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: saunders place. Saunders, just thirty four years old, was in

984
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: his third season coaching the Tea Wolves. He's the son

985
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: of former Timberwoolve's head coach Flip Saunders. That is your

986
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: sports update from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown. Maddie clave

987
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: taking you through a Monday here now in our number

988
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: two of the show. And we've got phone calls to

989
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: get to here Maddie, so we're going to do that

990
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: here in short order. But just to reset the table,

991
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: we are asking you on the Twitter poll today, should

992
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: the win now mode of some NFL clubs influence the

993
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: Bills in their Super Bowl push and plans? And we've

994
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: got choices for you there on the tweet sheet at

995
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Yes, be aggressive to get the title now.

996
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Maybe only if things change more in the AFC, like oh,

997
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, Deshaun Watson coming to the AFC East

998
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: or No. There are different ways to win and build

999
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: a championship team. So you see right out in front

1000
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: is be aggressive, and Maddie and I are kind of

1001
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: in that boat with a certain degree of decorum. I

1002
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: don't think Maddie and I want to be reckless in

1003
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: being aggressive, but we certainly want to do what it

1004
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: takes to get the team over the hump. But let's

1005
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: go to the phone. See what you think. Eight O

1006
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: three five fifty open line for you there if you

1007
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: want to jump on board. But for now we go

1008
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: to Earl in West Seneca. Earl, what do you have

1009
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: for us? You're on one Bill's Live. Hey, good afternoon, guys.

1010
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: I think J. J. Watt would be the key. You

1011
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: need a pass rusher. Yeah, too many times I watched

1012
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: the games and the quarterbacks had all day to throw.

1013
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: Besides that, Watt is good against the run. You say,

1014
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: how can you how can you afford them all? That's easy.

1015
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: You're free up cap space by cutting Addison, Butler, Jefferson,

1016
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: all three, or maybe one or two of them. Don't forget.

1017
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: You're going to have Latoula coming back for a full year,

1018
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: and Harrison Phillips should be back good, ready to go

1019
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: from his injury. And I think that would be I

1020
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: think that would be a great fit. Watt's got two

1021
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: to three more years left in him to play. Yeah,

1022
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: what do you think about that, Maddie? What do you

1023
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: think about Earl's contention here? I like it. I don't

1024
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: think this defensive line is going to look the same

1025
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: next year or this upcoming season, whether we get JJ

1026
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Watt or not, I don't think we're going to have

1027
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: the same faces that we had this past season. In

1028
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: new faces, I don't think all of them will be

1029
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: on this defensive line here. As we start to approach

1030
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: camps and start to approach training camp and the free

1031
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: agency and the draft, I think we'll start to see

1032
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: this roster change here in the next couple of weeks

1033
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: and get a better idea of how it's going to look.

1034
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: But I would agree with the fact that JJ Watt

1035
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: probably has two or three years left. I don't know

1036
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: if he has many more than that. Hopefully those two

1037
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: to three years he can be healthy through them, because,

1038
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: as we've talked about before last week, his productivity in

1039
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: what he's been able to put out on the field

1040
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: in sack numbers and in games available have not been

1041
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: what his first five years looked like which was sixteen sixteen,

1042
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen, multiple digit or multiple digit sack numbers a

1043
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: year after year, and then he gets into a second

1044
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: half of his career and it's a lot more spotty

1045
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: than that. This past season he was healthy, which was

1046
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: good to see, but can he be able to continue that?

1047
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: And the sack numbers, they don't need to be what

1048
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: they were a year after year, but I think the

1049
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: health perspective is important about it. He needs to be

1050
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: someone who can be healthy. I would hate for any

1051
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: team to get a jj Watt and have him be

1052
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: hurt for his last couple of seasons, but veterans know

1053
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: how to take care of their body. I think that

1054
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: also goes into your load management as you get into

1055
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: the season. We saw many of our veterans taking days

1056
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: off to be able to get through the entirety of

1057
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: a long season. And if you're gonna have him on

1058
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: your team for two to three years, it also gives

1059
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: you time to possibly draft a pass rusher and develop them,

1060
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: so by the time jj Watt is off your books

1061
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: or off the team, you have someone who may not

1062
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: be JJ Watt caliber, but you have someone that can

1063
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: then step into that place and into that role. Who

1064
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: gets to learn from JJ Watt. That's also a great

1065
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: thing to have. We've seen so many quarterbacks who have

1066
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: sat the bench a year or two as they've came

1067
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: into the NFL, gotten drafted and learned from some of

1068
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the NFL. To learn from one

1069
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in the NFL, I think

1070
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: is a great asset to have on your team. He

1071
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: could be a mentor for a guy like aj Epanessa

1072
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: right now, or even Darryl Johnson and help make those

1073
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: guys better by teaching them a few tricks of the trade.

1074
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: But I do tend to think that Earl is on

1075
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: the right track here because the Bills their approach last

1076
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: year in free agency with respect to addressing their offensive

1077
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: line was to do it in numbers, maybe not superstar players,

1078
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: but proven players that had a track record of production, availability,

1079
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: steady play, if you will. It didn't work, I think

1080
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: to the agree that they hoped it would. So you

1081
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: wonder if they change the approach and say, well, we

1082
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: went at it with numbers with some guys, you know,

1083
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: Tier B players, and we didn't get the production we

1084
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: had hoped for. Maybe it was. Maybe it was complicated

1085
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: by the star opt out and that could have been

1086
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: a contributing factor to why they didn't get what they

1087
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: wanted out of those players. But the fact remains that

1088
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: they may have to look at this problem differently and

1089
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: attack it by maybe investing more heavily in one player

1090
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: like a JJ Watt or maybe a von Miller if

1091
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: he gets cut loose from Denver, and it may come

1092
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: at a cost. As Earl outlined, you may have to

1093
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: take a couple of guys off of that defensive line

1094
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: as salary cap casualties to get a guy the caliber

1095
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: of JJ Watt, Because, as we mentioned on the show

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00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: last week, Maddie, six of the top eleven salaries on

1097
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: this roster are on the defensive line. You can't go

1098
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: and invest again at that position. I wouldn't think without

1099
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: subtracting somewhere else on that defensive line. So I think

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: Earl is on the right track. I think if they

1101
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: do make an investment like that, they're probably going to

1102
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: have to make some subtractions there, maybe one or two.

1103
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't think three, but maybe one or two subtractions

1104
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: to make it all fit and work together. Let's go

1105
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: back to the phones and go to Dan in Rochester. Dan,

1106
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Live.

1107
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: I think we should go for it. Chris and Dad

1108
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: do you do a great job too? On the end

1109
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: of ourdcast. Thanks, thank you. Go ahead, though, Dan, we

1110
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: should go for a Chris. Yeah, that's simple as that.

1111
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: Just and what does go for it? What does go

1112
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: for it mean to you? Dan? Going for it? I'm

1113
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: putting seventy years old in April. Chris, I'm been in

1114
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: Bill Friend my life. I got you. Okay, So you

1115
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: want to go for it because you're like, hey man,

1116
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm seventy I've been waiting long enough, Let's make it happen.

1117
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: I went through the yellow rock pile. Yeah yeah, when

1118
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: I was younger. Yeah. Okay. So now the question here, though, Dan,

1119
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: you're willing to go for it even if how aggressive

1120
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: do you want to be? Because Maddie and I are like,

1121
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: be aggressive, let's just not be reckless to the point

1122
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: where you compromise your future. But maybe you don't give

1123
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: a hoot. I like no, I like Milano a lot.

1124
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest players on Built or one

1125
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: of the best on the Bills, but Yeah, And that's

1126
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: what makes this kind of decision tough, which is why

1127
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Maddie what Brandon Bean said, he used those exact words

1128
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: tough decisions, because that's what he's going to be faced

1129
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: with this offseason, and it's going to be a decision

1130
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,959
Speaker 1: that invariably involves Milano and maybe a few other guys

1131
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: under contract. And as you look at the linebackers as well,

1132
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: can you get a linebacker in the NFL draft to

1133
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: this in the next couple months here as we approach

1134
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: the end of April into early May when the NFL

1135
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: Draft will be this year, If your answer isn't resigned Milano,

1136
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: what do you have in the NFL draft? We have

1137
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: a first round pick, we have that number thirty pick.

1138
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: Can number thirty equal someone who can replace Matt Milano,

1139
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: Maybe not as effective as Matt Milano on day one,

1140
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: but someone who can grow into a role like that,

1141
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: someone who Tremaine Edmonds can teach and can help learn everything.

1142
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: I think you're better off getting a linebacker rather than

1143
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: a pass rusher if you're doing this or that scenario

1144
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: in this draft we've talked about where you can get

1145
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: a premier pass rusher in the draft, versus where you

1146
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: can get a linebacker in the draft. I think a

1147
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: linebacker can fall into the end of the first round

1148
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: rather than just getting someone in the top ten, top fifteen.

1149
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you know. Look, that's why defensive ends

1150
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: and premier pass rushers are paid the money they are.

1151
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: They're harder to find. Outside linebackers don't make at least

1152
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: in a four three system, don't make the same kind

1153
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: of money as a pass rusher does because they're harder

1154
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: to find. You look at the athletes are coming out

1155
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: of the college game now, there's outside linebackers that come in.

1156
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: Diamond doesn't. And as you pointed out, Maddie, the other

1157
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: thing that has to be considered here is where the

1158
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: Bills are drafting every round right now. So you're not

1159
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: picking tenth or twelfth anymore. You're a good football team

1160
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: that's picking thirtieth, and the chances of finding a top

1161
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 1: flight edge rusher that can help you immediately at pick

1162
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: thirty is far more remote than finding a linebacker that

1163
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: could help you right away at pick thirty. So, based

1164
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: on where your draft position is right now, and based

1165
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: on what is expected to shake out of the trees

1166
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: in free agency due to salary cap casualties. JJ Watt

1167
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: being an example, and von Miller likely to be another

1168
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: one in the not too distant future. I think it

1169
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: behooves them to go that route and address pass rusher

1170
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: with a veteran that can help you right away, and

1171
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: then hope that either with a competitian with a top

1172
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: draft pick, and maybe a guy like Tyrrell Dotson. Those

1173
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: two guys are competing for a starting role to play

1174
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: alongside Tremaine Edmonds. You can plug that hole at least

1175
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: effectively enough where you're not losing that much. There. Let's

1176
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: go back to the phones and Tom and West Seneca

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Speaker 1: is up next. Tom, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's Live. Yes, Maddie, Chris, thanks for

1179
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: having me up right now. I'm in the mindset of

1180
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: jj Watt. I think he would like he would definitely

1181
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: prefer to go to a team that's trying the Cusper

1182
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: verge of going to the Super Bowl, and we are

1183
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: right there for sure, and if we get j J.

1184
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: Watt and we can get more pressure on the opposing quarterbacks,

1185
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I think we're going to the Super Bowl. Of he's

1186
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: a winner at whatever is longevity is in the NFL now,

1187
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: I think he's he has a lot of great play

1188
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: on him. Yet for well Man, he said two three

1189
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: years or whatever. Hudos could be five years. But I

1190
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: think that is the answer right there. We have to

1191
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: put more pressure on the quarterback and JJ Watt has

1192
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: a lot of great play left to him. And I

1193
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: thank you guys for hearing me out, and you guys

1194
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: have a great day, all right. Thanks for the call, Tom.

1195
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Yeah. I mean, man, it's the thing

1196
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: here is I think this is being overlooked too much.

1197
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he played a lot in a three to

1198
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: four where your responsibilities are a lot more varied as

1199
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Speaker 1: opposed to a four to three. I would make the

1200
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: argument that he could be an even more effective player

1201
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: at this age thirty two in a true four three

1202
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: system here in Buffalo, I think he could be a

1203
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: more effective player and a more versatile player. We know

1204
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: how much this coaching staff values position flexibility. He brings

1205
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: that in Spains. I think you can line him up

1206
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: anywhere on a four man front quite frankly, depending on

1207
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: the down and distance, and so that brings inherent value

1208
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: as well. But I think I think the listeners and

1209
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: the callers do have to understand, you make an investment

1210
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: in this guy on the defensive line, you're probably gonna

1211
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: have to cut one or maybe two guys loose from

1212
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: the guys you currently have under contract. And we're probably

1213
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: talking about guys that just joined this team last season,

1214
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate that, yeah, it's it could be some

1215
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: guys that joined this team just this last season. And

1216
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: we went into last season with this thought process, or

1217
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Leslie Frazier did, and Eric Washington, the defensive line coach,

1218
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: of we want multiple guys we want we want it

1219
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: to be almost a changing of the guards every time

1220
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: we're sending new defensive linemen out there. We want fresh legs.

1221
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: We won't want guys playing the entire game. We constantly

1222
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: want to be shifting and moving. And I loved that idea.

1223
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: I was all about that. I thought it was gonna

1224
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: turn out great. I love the idea of shifting people

1225
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: along the defensive line who knew how to play multiple

1226
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: positions and sending in fresh legs. But that didn't work

1227
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: on this defensive line this past year. And how long

1228
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: do you try something like that before you alter your

1229
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: game plan, before you change it up do you give

1230
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: it another year of this, knowing that we are so

1231
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: close to making it to the super Bowl, or do

1232
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: you say, you know what a little bit to heck

1233
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: with that plan, We're not necessarily going to shift people

1234
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: in and out every couple downs. We would rather have

1235
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: a solid four that we can rely on and shift

1236
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: in and out when need be, whether it's a third

1237
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: down situation, whether you're bringing someone inside versus outside on

1238
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: third down. And to have flexibility that JJ Watt offers,

1239
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: I think is a little bit stronger than having the

1240
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: flexibility of multiple bodies who may not be what JJ

1241
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: Watt can be. Right, And I'm sure you remember this

1242
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: value about eleven or twelve, it got to a point

1243
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: where that rotation was so ineffective that Leslie Frasier started

1244
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: playing what he viewed as his top four defensive lineman more.

1245
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: They were getting more snaps, because usually it wouldn't be

1246
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: much more than forty five to fifty five percent of

1247
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: the snaps for any one lineman. Jerry Hughes was typically

1248
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: getting the most, at like fifty five percent of the snaps.

1249
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 1: And then there was a three or four week stretch

1250
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: from like week twelve thirteen fourteen where he along with

1251
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: Mario Addison and the guys inside it kind of varied

1252
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: at times, but they liked two guys maybe more than others,

1253
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: and those guys were playing upwards of sixty percent of

1254
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: the snaps for a two or three week period, So

1255
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier even recognized that that heavy rotation was not

1256
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: working as effectively as they had hoped in season. So

1257
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: I think that only lends more credence to the fact

1258
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: that this might be the way to go in this

1259
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: offseason and heading into twenty twenty one. Let's go back

1260
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: to the phones eight h three H five fifty to

1261
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: Eric and Amhurst. We go, Eric, what do you have

1262
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: for us here on one Bills Live. Yes, I wanted

1263
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: to come on and agree with Um. I think they're

1264
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: getting JJ Watt will be excellent. UM will be the

1265
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: best case scenario or the best route we could take.

1266
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: And I wanted to see what you guys thought about.

1267
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: If you can remember a few Super Bowls back, um

1268
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: Can Chanceller was playing defense on Rob Gronkowski when they

1269
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: were in New England, of course, and I think what

1270
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: the Bills may need, and I'm not saying it has

1271
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: to be first round but I think they would. They

1272
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: may need a hybrid safety then we played the Nickel.

1273
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 1: I think a hybrid safety that can that can defend

1274
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: a run, but really specializes in aass coverage. And then

1275
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: you would also need to get a linebacker from the

1276
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: draft as well that can defense, because we're gonna be

1277
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: dealing with Kansas City for the next who knows how

1278
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: long to come to that tight end right. The only

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Speaker 1: place where I would caution you a little bit, Eric,

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Speaker 1: is you're thinking about coverage with size and somebody that's

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger at the safety position, because you're

1282
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: thinking of Gronk, But Gronk isn't in this division anymore,

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey is a far greater athlete than Gronk,

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01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: and you need somebody that can run too. I mean,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: Kelsey's a unicorn. I don't know if you're gonna find

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01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: any perfect safety that's going to be able to cover

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01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: him in a true coverage situation where you can say,

1288
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: we'll just put this guy on him and we'll be good.

1289
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: Because look at what the Bills did the last two

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 1: times they played him. They and they're gonna have to

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01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: play him again next season because they're on the regular

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01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: season schedule. They used Tradevious White, Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde,

1293
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmonds, all in one kind of coverage

1294
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 1: or another, all against Travis Kelsey at one time or another.

1295
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: In those two games. None of it worked. And they're

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01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: not the only team that he does it against. He

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: does it against everybody. But he's a unicorn. I don't

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: know if there's a true answer for him. I get

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying about the hybrid model. The Bills played

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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: ninety percent nickel last year, more than any other team

1301
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: in the league, and that's that's that's kind of a

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: reason that I was saying that, right, And I get it.

1303
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying size wine Okay, physical,

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: we weren't. We weren't even physical with that with that

1305
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: side in on the line, he ran right off the line,

1306
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: well right, And I think I think that's more x's

1307
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: and o's Eric. I think that's more scheme than it

1308
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: is player personnel. I mean, Cam Chancellor was a two

1309
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds safety. Those guys don't exist anymore

1310
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: because everybody's throwing the ball so much that you better

1311
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: have somebody that can run and Cam Chancellor only ran

1312
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 1: like a four six coming out of Virginia Tech. So

1313
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: that guy is five years after he finished his career.

1314
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 1: He'd be a dinosaur in this league now, or he'd

1315
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: be a full time linebacker, one or the other. So

1316
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: I just used him as an example. Yeah, they used

1317
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: him to cover. They used him to cover ground, cows

1318
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: and ground. Telfy wasn't exactly a flout. No, no, No,

1319
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right he was. No, he's one of

1320
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: the best Titans to ever play the game. Absolutely not. No,

1321
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you. No, you make some good points, Eric,

1322
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: and I appreciate the phone call. The point I was

1323
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: just trying to make is I think what you're the

1324
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: answer you're looking for is more schematically rooted than it

1325
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 1: is player personnel rooted. Because what one of the big

1326
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: things that we were talking about, Steve and I right

1327
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 1: after the AFC title game, Maddie, was how the Bills

1328
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: were giving the Chiefs receivers and Kelsey free releases off

1329
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage instead of collisioning them at the

1330
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: line to at least try to reroute them disrupt the

1331
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: timing of the routes. And it was peculiar that they

1332
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: chose that approach, especially seeing some other teams with better

1333
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: success with a more physical approach. And as a matter

1334
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: of fact, that's what Tampa Bay did, not all the time,

1335
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: but a good portion of the game in the Super Bowl.

1336
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,839
Speaker 1: They were jamming those guys at the line of scrimmage

1337
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: and being physical with them, and that might be an

1338
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: approach have to take going forward. And that's how the

1339
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: Chiefs played the Bills too. That's and how they played

1340
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: multiple teams. Defense is known for making contact and then

1341
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: on multiple plays being able to get called for penalties,

1342
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: but not getting called for penalties on every single play

1343
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: because that's just how physical their corners and their safeties

1344
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: and their defensive backs play in general. And I think

1345
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did and how the Chiefs

1346
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: defense plays a lot of the times is a great

1347
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: idea and a great blueprint there as to how you

1348
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: can at least affect someone a little bit at the

1349
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage before you let them run your route.

1350
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,959
Speaker 1: You have those five yards to do something, Why wouldn't

1351
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: you jam them at the line of scrimmage there You're

1352
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: I would think you're only helping yourself and our guys

1353
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: are athletic to be able to get back into the

1354
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: position after you're jamming them, to be able to run

1355
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: with them. Yeah right. I think this is something that

1356
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: I would love to see our team do this next

1357
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: season as we're going up against talented wide receivers and

1358
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: hopefully facing the Chiefs again in the AFC title game. Well,

1359
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: that's why the coaching staff sits in dark rooms in January, February, March,

1360
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: and April to come up with new approaches to solve

1361
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: problems like this. So be interesting to see what this

1362
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff has in mind defensively when we get to

1363
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: next season. Got some callers waiting, We will get to you.

1364
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: We are up against the break. We'll lead off with

1365
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: Rick in New York when we come back. But for

1366
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: those holding at eight O three five fifty, we're taking

1367
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: phone calls in the next segments, so sit tight. We'll

1368
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: get to you when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Sorry

1370
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 1: about Dad. Had some technical difficulties that our crack staff

1371
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: is still working through right now, and at this moment

1372
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: in time, we cannot take the phone calls there is

1373
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: a block there in our technical wiring there that's preventing

1374
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: us from doing so. So I apologize to those of

1375
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: you're holding at eight oh three oh five fifty. We

1376
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: will get to you as soon as technically possible, so

1377
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: our regrets for not being able to hear from you

1378
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: at least at this moment. But in the meantime, Maddie

1379
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: and I will go to the tweet sheet, which is

1380
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment

1381
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 1: moving company of the Bills. We let off with Tiffany

1382
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, but we'll go to Bill's Mafia

1383
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: House next because we are asking should the win now

1384
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: mode of teams influence the Bills and how they conduct

1385
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,759
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl push and their offseason dealings. Bill's Mafia

1386
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: House says, there is never a guarantee of longevity for

1387
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: any player in this league. If you are close, you

1388
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: go for it and go all in. Should be no

1389
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: in between ever, anything about that, Maddie, He's saying, forget,

1390
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: we're going for broke. That's what I was getting into

1391
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, just with not knowing what the health

1392
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: of players are going to be in the future, and

1393
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: we can't even predict what the health of this team

1394
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: is going to be this season. Entering the off season,

1395
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: it seems pretty good. There weren't a lot of players

1396
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: who had to get surgeries. If players had to get surgeries,

1397
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: they weren't intense surgeries that are going to take months

1398
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: to recover, like a torn acl or something like that.

1399
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: So you enter this season relatively healthy or healthy, I

1400
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: should say, we know Zach Moss came out for the

1401
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: end of the season and is fixing what he was

1402
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: out with that leg injury there, so hopefully you have

1403
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: him back healthy by training camp, by mini camps, I

1404
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: would imagine, and from there you enter the season with

1405
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: a healthy team. So I was thinking in in the

1406
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: vein of health. So, yeah, you don't want to guess

1407
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: what you could be one year to the next year

1408
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: just if you haven't go for it. So I agree

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: with Bill's Mafia house, not knowing what you will have

1410
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: year to year with player health or who knows what

1411
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: would happen, and unlikely we would hit another pandemic or

1412
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: something like that. But yeah, go for it, but go

1413
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: for it in a smart way, not crazy sell everything

1414
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: for one year. Yeah, strike while the iron's hot. Just

1415
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: don't start swinging the iron around and hit somebody with it. Yeah,

1416
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: and with knowing that we can't really get to our

1417
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: callers at this very moment, I do want to address

1418
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: some of the topics that they were calling about. So

1419
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: Rick in New York is of the opinion the Bills

1420
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: are trying to replace Kyle Williams with a Kyle Williams

1421
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: type on the defensive line, And yeah, I mean I

1422
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: think J. J. Watt would fit that kind of personality

1423
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: on Buffalo's defensive line. So maybe Rick's leaning that way.

1424
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hopefully we get a chance to talk

1425
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: to Rick sooner rather than later. But that's interesting. A veteran,

1426
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: ay hy veteran type that can still produce. I think

1427
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: JJ Watt would fit that mold. Von Miller could fit

1428
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: that mold too, if in fact, he's released by the

1429
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, which is widely anticipated with a very fat

1430
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: cap figure for them. Ramone and Buffalo is another caller

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01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: he thinks Watt would be a huge get for the Bills.

1432
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: He's also in the market for another running back. I

1433
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: think if you add anything in running back, Maddie, they'd

1434
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: be looking to add an explosive type player with a

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: lot of speed. Yeah, an explosive player with a lot

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: of speed sounds exactly correct. And I was thinking, like, Okay,

1437
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: if JJ Watt is not the player that the Buffalo

1438
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: Bills are going to get and they choose to make

1439
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: this move in free agency, what is the second best

1440
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: realistic option here? You talked about Shack Barrett being someone

1441
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: who can be a great piece for whatever team for

1442
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: more than two to three years. But if we're looking

1443
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: in this two to three years window you mentioned von Miller?

1444
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Who else is a second best case scenario? If JJ

1445
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: Watt goes to another team, who would you want to

1446
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: see on the Bills If it wasn't going to be

1447
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, would would you think von Miller? If he

1448
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: does get released by the Denver Broncos. Well, I mean

1449
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: it's a tough one. He's had an injury history too,

1450
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: as you know, that tends to happen with defensive line

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: once they get up into their early thirties. Didn't really

1452
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: play at all last year. Also dealt with COVID early on,

1453
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,520
Speaker 1: right before the season started and had a long recovery

1454
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: from that as well. But I think if you like

1455
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: what his physical tells you when you conduct that with

1456
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: your own physicians, and you still believe he can get

1457
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: around the edge, there's value there. I don't know if

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01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: there's quite as much value as there is with JJ

1459
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Watt because of the position versatility, and again, you'd probably

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Speaker 1: be paying a comparable price for von Miller as you

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Speaker 1: would for JJ Watt. Maybe Watt comes at a little

1462
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: steeper price, but not much. All indications with Shack Barrett

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Speaker 1: is he wants to be back with the Bucks if

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: the money works. I'm not convinced it will because I

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01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 1: think Shaq Barrett, AT's twenty eight years old, is in

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: line for a giant contract after the year that he

1467
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,799
Speaker 1: had on a championship roster. But we'll have to see.

1468
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna have to take a look at

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: what else exists out there besides Wat. I'll be the

1470
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: first to admit that I haven't beat the bushes too

1471
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: much just yet on what else sits out there at

1472
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: the defensive end position. We know Yannick and Goquay is

1473
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: out there, but again, younger player with a lot more

1474
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: years in front of him, and that guy's going to

1475
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: come at a premium, a premium that I don't see

1476
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: the Bills paying right now. They're not paying seventeen eighteen

1477
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: million dollars a year for a top flight pass rusher.

1478
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: They're just they don't. They have too many budgetary constraints

1479
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: to go there. If you're going to go to those lengths,

1480
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: well then yeah, you are cutting three defensive linemen off

1481
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 1: your roster to make that kind of a salary fit.

1482
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: And I don't know that the Bills want to go

1483
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: to those lengths to make that happen. Ron and North

1484
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: Carolina has another caller that we had waiting on hold,

1485
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: and he's saying, what no love for AJ Klein some

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Speaker 1: of the Milano discussion going on there. I think Ron's

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01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: probably of the opinion that if Milano walks out the door,

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: you could just plug in AJ Klein. And while I

1489
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: think a J. Klein has value for this roster, Maddie,

1490
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: I think it comes in a much different package than

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01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: that of Matt Milano. Even Leslie Frasier admitted that AJ

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01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Klein is not the athlete that Matt Milano is. He

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01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same sideline to sideline range. I think

1494
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: even Leslie Frasier found out when trying to plug AJ

1495
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: Klein into the exact same role with the exact same

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01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: responsibilities as Matt Milano. He got exposed in coverage and

1497
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: in plays out on the edge in space. Once he

1498
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: decided there was a different way to make use of

1499
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: AJ Klein, he was a much more effective player. Klein

1500
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: is a more effective linebacker going straight ahead, whether it's blitzing,

1501
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: hitting up in run fits, he is great at that.

1502
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: But in the coverage responsibilities, he can get exposed at times,

1503
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: even against backs and tight ends. So I think those

1504
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: are his limitations, and so I think they if they

1505
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: don't keep Matt Milano in the fold, he has to

1506
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: be replaced with an athlete at the linebacker position more

1507
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: than anything else. Yeah, AJ Klein and Matt Milano are

1508
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: two different players. I would not talk about them together

1509
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: really in the same sentence as what they're able to offer.

1510
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 1: You said that AJ Klein is more of your North

1511
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: South type linebacker, and that's when he was able to

1512
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: pop off the most and make what did he make

1513
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: AFC Defensive Player of the Leaks this past season. That's

1514
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: when Leslie Frasier was able to Okay, AJ Cline's not

1515
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: going to basically fit what Matt Milano can do, so

1516
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: we have to fit him in what he can do,

1517
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: and that's when he was the most successful. But I

1518
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: don't think this team would be looking for someone like

1519
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: AJ Klein to have that second linebacker role full time

1520
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: on defense. I think that's something that you fit into

1521
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: the equation depending on who you're playing on the other

1522
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball, depending on what their offense is like,

1523
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: depending on what type of running backs they have, things

1524
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: that AJ Klein is known to be good at, known

1525
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: to excel at. He's also an older linebacker, so I

1526
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: think if Matt Milano is not your answer, you want

1527
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: to replace that with a little bit of youth, which

1528
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: is different than how we're talking about this pass rusher

1529
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: position that the Bills could look into. JJ Watt is

1530
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: not youth, but he is an answer in productivity right there.

1531
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: He's an answer in what you need when you're going

1532
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 1: after a quarterback or what you need in a defensive

1533
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: line as a whole. With what he can offer for

1534
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: Matt Milano for that vacancy, if there is one, I

1535
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: think you want to adjust it, like you said, with

1536
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: an athlete someone like Matt Milano. Yeah, and all fairness,

1537
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: AJ clients dine with the Bills, knowing full well he

1538
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: was not going to be a starter in all likelihood

1539
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: and knew that he would be kind of first guy

1540
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: off the bench type of role and that he wasn't

1541
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna have a full time role here. Whether that changes,

1542
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I think, is going to largely be predicated on where

1543
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 1: Matt Milano ends up this offseason, whether it's back in

1544
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo or somewhere else, and secondarily, what the Bills try

1545
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: to acquire if they have to address that void left

1546
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: by the potential departure of Matt Milano. And it's just

1547
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: something we're gonna have to wait and see how it

1548
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: unfolds this offseason. We have to take a break. When

1549
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: we come back, we have one Rich Samini, new York

1550
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: Jets beat reporter for ESPN dot com. He'll be here

1551
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: to talk to us about the as the world turns

1552
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: scenario in New York with the Jets as they are

1553
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: in their own quarterback quandary as to whether they stick

1554
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold or swing for what they think as

1555
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback in the draft, with the second overall

1556
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 1: pick coming up next when we return here on one

1557
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health It's Buffalo Bill's radio

1558
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: get along the Blue Line those Rasmus Richeline, and remains

1559
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo recovering from severe COVID nineteen symptoms. Meanwhile, Jake

1560
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: McCay and Will Borgan didn't practice on Sunday after injuries

1561
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,799
Speaker 1: suffered in Saturday's game. It's been nine days in counting

1562
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: since the Texans acquiesced to JJ Watt's request to be released.

1563
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: Bills are one of a handful of teams reportedly interested

1564
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: in landing Watts, still without a new team, and perhaps

1565
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: without one until teams are certain of the salary cap.

1566
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: It prompted a fan to ask what on Twitter when

1567
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: he's going to sign? Watt actually responded saying, quote, I

1568
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: scroll through door dash for like an hour before I

1569
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: pick a restaurant. You're gonna have to give me a

1570
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: second to choose a new team and city end quote.

1571
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: If he's waiting for clarity with the salary cap or

1572
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: report from Pro Football Talk said it's possible the twenty

1573
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: twenty one cap will be around a little more than

1574
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: one hundred eighty million, but not much more. The estimated

1575
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: final number, according to the source, could land in the

1576
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: range of one hundred eighty two to one hundred and

1577
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: eighty three million. It is an adjustment up from the

1578
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five million that resulted thanks to

1579
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: aggressive lobbying by teams that would have had a hard

1580
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: time getting their cap number down to one seventy five,

1581
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: although plenty of teams will be doing a lot of

1582
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: work to clear cap space even if it lands in

1583
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: the range of one hundred and eighty two million. NBA

1584
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: News Minnesota Timberwolves have fired head coach Ryan Saunders in

1585
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: the midst of having the NBA's worst record. They then

1586
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: hired Toronto Raptors assistant Chris Finch to take saunders place.

1587
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: That is your sports update from One Bill's Drive Chris

1588
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: Brown Maddi glab with you here on a Monday and

1589
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: please to be joined now in the third hour of

1590
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: the show by ESPN NFL Nation Jets beat reporter Rich Semini. Rich,

1591
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here. It looks like it's going

1592
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: to be a busy offseason for you, So how are

1593
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: you preparing for it right now? It seems like they're

1594
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: always busy with the Jets, you know, Well that's trus

1595
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: This year, we're getting the full gamut, though. We had

1596
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: the coaching change and we got the big quarterback decisions,

1597
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: so there could be a quarterback change. So that's that's

1598
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: pretty big stuff. Yeah, and why why don't we start

1599
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: right there? Because obviously everybody that's on the outside looking

1600
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: in as speculating as to what the ultimate decision will be.

1601
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas though, and again we're viewing this from afar,

1602
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: he seems to have at least a different plan in

1603
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: terms of how to right the ship here, so to speak.

1604
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: I know there's probably going to be a temptation for

1605
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: him to reset, hit the reset button with a new

1606
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: coach coming in. But what do you think are the

1607
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: chances that maybe they ultimately side with Sam Darnold and

1608
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: considered starting anew with him on board. I really think

1609
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: it's fifty fifty right now, because I don't even think

1610
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: the Jets know the answer to that question. Obviously, with

1611
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 1: the number two pick in the draft, they're putting a

1612
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of time in on these quarterbacks like Zach Wilson

1613
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: and Justin Fields and Trey Lance. They really haven't had

1614
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: a chance to attend any of their pro days yet.

1615
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, they were at the Trevor Lawrence pro Day,

1616
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, recently, but we know he's not going to

1617
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: be available to the Jets. So I think they're still

1618
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: formulating an evaluation of this draft class and if they

1619
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: like something, you know, I think if they like Zach Wilson,

1620
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: who seems to be the popular pick at number two, enough,

1621
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 1: I think they will go ahead and trade Sam Darnald.

1622
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're there yet. I think they

1623
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: know what they haven't Darnald young, very young, still twenty three,

1624
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,440
Speaker 1: guy with talent who hasn't come close to reaching his expectations.

1625
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: But you know, he hasn't really been coached that well.

1626
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: He's had a lot of upheaval around him. So I

1627
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: think they know what they have in him. They just

1628
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: have to figure out if they're going to be able

1629
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: to upgrade through the draft. Thinking about what the fan

1630
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: base wants and their voices. I mean, we know Bills

1631
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: fans are are very loud on social media anytime the

1632
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 1: Bills make a move or maybe don't make a move.

1633
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: What's the consensus with the fan base. Do they believe

1634
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,879
Speaker 1: in Sam Darnold, Do they think Sam Darnald deserves another

1635
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: year or is it you know, get him out? Of here,

1636
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: and let's go after Zach Wilson with that number two

1637
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 1: pick if he's there. You know, Maddie's really interesting because

1638
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 1: the Jets fan base, I think right now, is really

1639
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: split down the middle. It's it's a very polarizing decision

1640
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: for them, and you know, it's like half the people

1641
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: are in Darnald's corner, like, hey, he's had nothing around him,

1642
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: let's give him one more chance. The other half is like,

1643
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: the heck with it. You know, it's time to move on.

1644
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: We've seen three years. That's enough. Let's move on. Let's

1645
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: start fresh with a new coach. It's really divided right now,

1646
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: and you know, Bills fans really owe the Jets a

1647
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: debt of gratitude because it had the Jets pick Josh Allen,

1648
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: you know, with the third pick in that eighteen draft.

1649
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe maybe the Bills would have Sam Donald

1650
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: right now, but you know, it's a it's a crazy thing.

1651
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 1: I think we may not know the answer to this

1652
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:09,520
Speaker 1: dilemma until well into April. And then let's just say hypothetically,

1653
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Rich that you know Darnald is moved, presumably, as you said,

1654
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: it may not happen until April. How might that impact

1655
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: the value they could get back for him, if at all?

1656
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 1: And how do you think his value on the open

1657
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: market was impacted by the Winz trade and what the

1658
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: Eagles were able to command, knowing full well that they

1659
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: were asking for a favor more than anything else, even

1660
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: though they were incurring a thirty four million dollar cap hit,

1661
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: which still blows my mind. Yeah, I mean that's an

1662
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 1: all time record. So yeah, interesting. So my initial thought

1663
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: was that the Winds compensation would have a negative impact,

1664
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: but you know, I started calling around and I talked

1665
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to a couple of sources, and they feel that it's

1666
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of apples and oranges and that the Donald return,

1667
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: if in fact they try to trade him, would be better.

1668
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: They think it would be better than Wentz. And the

1669
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: reason being is that, a, you know, Donald's cheap. He's

1670
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: got a year left on his rookie contract and there's

1671
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: a fifty year option, both of which I'm much more

1672
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: affordable than what Wentz had left on his contract. Donald

1673
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 1: is not a guy who's not coachable. I mean, Carson

1674
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 1: has some baggage there, you know, whether he's agreeable to

1675
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: hard coaching. He's also had a lot of injury issues,

1676
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: so I think Donald because of the while he doesn't

1677
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: have the proven track record of a Carson Wentz, I

1678
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of teams view him as a better

1679
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,480
Speaker 1: prospect because he's younger, with less baggage and less contract.

1680
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: So I think they'd be able to get a second

1681
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 1: round picks up people think low one. I'm not so

1682
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: sure about that. I think they'd be able to get

1683
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: a two and then something else for him. Do you

1684
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: think that if Sam Donald is not going to be

1685
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: a part of the Jets anymore and Deshaun Watson gets

1686
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: what he wants, which is not playing for the Texans anymore,

1687
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: could the Jets make a push for Deshaun Watson? Does

1688
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: that make sense for both parties? In my opinion, it

1689
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense for the Jets to do that.

1690
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: If on April twenty seventh, which is two nights before

1691
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, the Texans finally say okay, well

1692
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: we're going to trade and we'll take the best offer.

1693
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: If I'm the Jets, i am moving mountains to try

1694
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,839
Speaker 1: to get to Shawn Watson, a player of that caliber

1695
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:25,679
Speaker 1: still twenty five on a very manageable contract through twenty

1696
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: twenty five. Would I would make a huge move to

1697
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: do that for the Jets, and I think if they

1698
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: tried hard enough, they would get them because they had

1699
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft, and that's very appealing

1700
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: to Euston. However, I'm not so sure the Jets would

1701
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: go into that gun's blazing. I think their front office

1702
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: really wants to build through the draft, and I think

1703
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: they might be a little hesitant about forking over that

1704
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: much draft capital, which in my heart tells me that, yeah,

1705
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: they'll be interested in Watson, but they may not do

1706
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 1: what it takes, Yeah, because if they have to, you know,

1707
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 1: pay over the top type of compensation, which is certainly plausible.

1708
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: You're worry about the team that Deshaun Watson is now inheriting,

1709
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: and whether there's enough talent around him to get out

1710
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson what you want to get out of

1711
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: him as a franchise quarterback. Right, it would take almost

1712
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: a year or two to build up around him. And

1713
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: now he's twenty seven. And you know what I'm saying, Rich,

1714
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean I would do that. That's just

1715
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: my opinion. You do it. I would give him up.

1716
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: I would give up Quinnon Williams and two first round

1717
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 1: picks and then maybe a second round pick. I would

1718
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I'd give up, I'd mortgage my future to get him

1719
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: because he's only twenty five and you have time to

1720
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: build around him. He's under contract with twenty twenty five,

1721
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: so it's not like you're in a win now, you know,

1722
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: very short window type of thing. You know, it would

1723
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: be an open window for a few years. And yeah,

1724
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean it would hurt your ability immediately to build

1725
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 1: around him having giving up a lot, but I still

1726
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: think it's a rare opportunity to get a quarterback, Like

1727
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the division. You got Josh

1728
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: Allen now, who's clearly on his way up Miami. We

1729
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 1: don't know what they have with Tua. I think the

1730
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 1: Wingland will find a quarterback somewhere. So you got to

1731
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: keep pace in the AFC with the Mahomeses and the

1732
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Allens in the Mayfields. So from the Jets, I would

1733
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 1: do it, And then also just looking at the roster

1734
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 1: as a whole. If the Jets choose not to go

1735
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: after a quarterback in the draft, and if Sam Donald

1736
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: is still on the team or if they still have

1737
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,719
Speaker 1: that number, I don't think you would have that number

1738
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 1: two pick if you have a trade for a quarterback.

1739
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: But let's say Sam Donald stays on the team and

1740
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: they have that number two pick, what else are you

1741
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: looking at in this draft that you need on your

1742
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: roster that can help build this team. Like you said,

1743
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: this coaching staff may want to build this team through

1744
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: the draft. You have a defensive minded coach. Where do

1745
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 1: you think they could with that number two pick. Well,

1746
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. So let's say they decide

1747
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,440
Speaker 1: to keep Sam. Okay, they look at all the quarterbacks

1748
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: and they said, let's let's roll the dice again with Sam.

1749
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, They're gonna trade that number

1750
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: two pick. They're not gonna pick out of that spot.

1751
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: They will auction it off to the highest bidder to

1752
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: a team that wants to move up for a quarterback.

1753
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,759
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Atlanta at four, maybe it's Philly at six,

1754
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: maybe Carolina at eight. They're all going to be in

1755
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback market. So the Jets trade that pick, they

1756
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: moved down a few spots, they get a ton of

1757
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 1: other draft picks just to add to their already large

1758
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 1: supply of draft capital, and then you're really in really,

1759
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 1: really good shape. So then they need a wide receiver.

1760
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: They need playmakers. They need defensive playmakers like corners and

1761
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 1: edge rushers. The list goes on and on, but those

1762
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: are the main, the main needs for the team right

1763
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 1: now and then rich. For too many years, we've seen

1764
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: the Jets struggle with respect to their player development. Players

1765
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,919
Speaker 1: come to the Jets, whether it's draft choices, free agents,

1766
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: and very often they do not get better. They either

1767
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: stay kind of at a certain level. Some exceed expectations.

1768
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: I think Jamison Crowd has done a nice job since

1769
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: he's come to the Jets, been productive player for them,

1770
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: but more often than not, young players don't improve to

1771
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 1: a tremendous degree. We've seen all the high draft picks

1772
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 1: that have been cast off by this organization. Question here

1773
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: is do you think the new coaching staff player development

1774
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: is his strength for them? Because it looks like Sala

1775
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: has had good success in making players better. Do you

1776
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: believe he as his staff that can do that in totality? Yeah,

1777
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I mean, I don't know. I mean,

1778
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Robert Sala has never been a head coach before, so

1779
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: there's that element of uncertainty there. I mean, I think

1780
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: you'll be good at it. I mean, he comes from

1781
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: good stock. He's been in a good organization for the

1782
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: last four years with shat Hand and John Lynch. He

1783
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: really had some instrument very influential years with the Seattle

1784
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks with Pete Carroll and John Schneider. Again another good organization.

1785
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: So you would think, and you're right. I mean they've

1786
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: developed some players, I mean they lost them. I mean

1787
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams was a good player who developed into a

1788
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: very good player, and they traded him away. Other than

1789
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, they have Marcus May and Quinnin Williams, who

1790
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: are both good players. Marcus is now a free agent.

1791
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: I think they might use the franchise tag on him.

1792
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 1: But you're right. For the most part, they have not

1793
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: developed players, and it comes back to drafting and talent development,

1794
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: and so I think you would think that Robert would

1795
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 1: be would be good at it. The one key that

1796
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: they haven't had. And I think the Bills do a

1797
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: good job of this just in having the front office

1798
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff in lockstep with each other. They

1799
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: Jets have not been able to get that for a

1800
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: long time, probably a decade, you know, they just seemed

1801
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: to have conflicting agendas. With their coach and the GM,

1802
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: and now maybe they have it right. Joe Douglas, this

1803
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 1: is his hire, you know, he's the GM. He hired

1804
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, and so you would think that they would

1805
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: finally have have that philosophical alignment that they've been chasing

1806
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: for so many years. Robert Sala and what he's been

1807
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: able to do with the forty nine ers and how

1808
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 1: he's been looked at as as a type of defensive guru.

1809
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 1: What do you think a defense is gonna look like

1810
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: under him? With the Jets, It's gonna look a lot different.

1811
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be playing a San Francisco slash Seattle kind

1812
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: of defense. So you're gonna see a four three with

1813
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: a lot of cover three, you know on the back end.

1814
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: And the Jets have not been a four three base

1815
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: defense since two thousand and five, believe it or not,

1816
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: when Herm Edwards is last year when they were running

1817
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: that four to three you know, Tampa two system. Ever

1818
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 1: since then, they've been basically at three four team. Now.

1819
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,839
Speaker 1: You know, the last couple of years under Greg Williams,

1820
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: they alternated, you know, they were kind of a hybrid

1821
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: front three four four three, but it's clearly going to

1822
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 1: be a four to three under Robert Salas, So you

1823
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: know that's interesting. I mean, they actually have a lot

1824
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: of good defensive linemen. They don't have any stars other

1825
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,839
Speaker 1: than quinnin but you know, they have a good solid

1826
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: group there. They're just really short on linebackers right now,

1827
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: so they need a lot of linebacking help and they

1828
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,919
Speaker 1: need cornerback help, you know, to run that style of defense.

1829
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: So Robert is I think he's got a good defense,

1830
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 1: a good scheme. He just needs the pieces. And speaking

1831
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 1: of those pieces, and we're talking to ESPN NFL Nation

1832
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,240
Speaker 1: Jet Speed reporter Rich Samanion with us here on One

1833
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Speaking of those pieces, Rich, what do you

1834
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: anticipate the approach to be of Joe Douglas and sala

1835
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: in terms of addressing the holes that need to be

1836
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: addressed on both sides of the ball for that matter.

1837
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Obviously they have the cap space to be aggressive if

1838
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: they want to be. But do you see this as

1839
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: a quality or over quantity approach or do you think

1840
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: they're just going to be looking at numbers, maybe maybe

1841
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: add in terms of volume to try to fill as

1842
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: many holes as possible. Yeah, I probably think volume. Joe Douglas,

1843
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, really grew up in the Aussie Newsome school

1844
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: of you know, scouting in general managing, and so he

1845
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: is not a big believer in free agency. He said,

1846
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, a month or so, we'll

1847
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 1: go at the end of the season. You can't buy championships.

1848
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: And so you saw that last year in their free agency.

1849
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they were very active, but they signed guys,

1850
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, very conservative approach. Basically a lot of one

1851
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: year deals and if they were longer than they were,

1852
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: basically you could get out after one year. Very conservative approach.

1853
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: And they didn't really make any big splurges. I think

1854
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: maybe they'll make one big splurge this year, possibly too.

1855
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: I just don't see like an all out, you know,

1856
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: they have so many holes that I think it would

1857
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: be more of a volume approach. You know, maybe they

1858
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: make one big splash on like a Joe Tuoney on

1859
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line from New England. I think, a guy

1860
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: that the Jets will have on their radar. Obviously that

1861
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: would cost a lot of money. But like some fans

1862
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: are speculating, like Allan Robinson or Chris Godwin. First of all,

1863
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,679
Speaker 1: they might get tagged, but even if they know. I

1864
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: really do not see the Jets spending twenty million a

1865
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: year on a wide receiver. Yeah, that's quite a bit

1866
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: of money to spend on a wide receiver every year.

1867
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: We thankfully got Stefan Diggs at the right time when

1868
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: the contract look right, and there is probably going to

1869
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: be some restructuring that goes into that in the years

1870
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 1: down the road. But Chris and I've been talking about

1871
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon being in their plan when they

1872
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 1: come in. You know, you come in to a new

1873
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: place and you have maybe a four year plan, a

1874
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: five year plan to see how far you can get,

1875
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: if you can make it to a Super Bowl, if

1876
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: you can make it to a title game, And the

1877
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: Bills have I think been on a four or five

1878
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: year plan. And how many years do you think it's

1879
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: going to take for the Jets to be in a

1880
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: position where they can win playoff games? Do you think

1881
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 1: this is going to take several years? Do you think

1882
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: they have some of those core pieces intact already or

1883
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: do you think it's going to be a build from

1884
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: the ground up thing. Here. As Robert Saloma enters his

1885
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: first year as the Jets head coach head coach. Yeah,

1886
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at kind of a long haul

1887
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: here now. With the Bills. I mean, they made a

1888
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: really good pick in Josh Allen, who has improved so much.

1889
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, personally, you know, I was I didn't think

1890
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: that was a great pick at the time. I know,

1891
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 1: when I looked at the quarterbacks in the twenty eighteen draft,

1892
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: I thought Sam was the best guy in that class.

1893
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: And to Josh Allen's credit, he's improved so much and

1894
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: he's going to keep on getting better. So when you

1895
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: have that kind of growth at the quarterback position, you

1896
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: can get better in a hurry, as we've seen with

1897
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: the Bills over the last couple of years. And you know,

1898
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: they augmented that with you know, like you mentioned Digs,

1899
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: which was probably the move of the year, like probably

1900
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the best trade of the year in the league. You know,

1901
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: So the Jets are going to have to do some

1902
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that to accelerate their process. But right now,

1903
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: I think Joe Douglas signed a six year contract when

1904
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 1: he came here, so he's only about it. You know,

1905
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 1: he's like less than two years into that. He's got

1906
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 1: a ton of draft picks. They have two number ones

1907
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: this year, they have two number ones next year. They

1908
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: have all the cap rooms, so I think he's preparing

1909
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: for a long build. And they have a new coach

1910
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: with a five year contract, so they're in no hurry.

1911
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna make the playoffs this year,

1912
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 1: but you know, who knows. I mean, the NFL is

1913
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: so unpredictable, you just never know. It would be a

1914
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: miracle turnaround to go from two and fourteen to the playoffs.

1915
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 1: I think they're on more of a two to three year,

1916
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, growth curve. Last one for me, Rich being

1917
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,799
Speaker 1: a Long Island native, I'm all too familiar with Jets

1918
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: angst and I still hear from a lot of my

1919
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 1: high school buddies on the telephone every week. But what

1920
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 1: is the level of consternation with respect to the quarterback

1921
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 1: jockeying that three of the four teams in this division

1922
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: could be engaged in. I mean, it's two of for now,

1923
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 1: but if a better option like Watson presents itself, you

1924
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: know the Dolphins will be involved. You've already laid out

1925
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 1: how the Jets will be involved if Watson could be

1926
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 1: on the market, and New England's just kind of lying

1927
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: in the weeds. So what's the level of consternation down

1928
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: there about if quarterbacks become available, that the Jets will

1929
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: be able to land the big fish over their division rivals. Man,

1930
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: if Watson ends up in Miami, I think Jet fans

1931
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: are just gonna go ballistic. That is the one fear.

1932
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if or something like that. I think they

1933
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: can live with that. I think they'll be disappointed, but

1934
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: they could live with that. But if he ends up

1935
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: in Miami, that would be a tough one for this

1936
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: fan base. As Wallow, I mean, they've gone through so

1937
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 1: much quarterback angst, to use your word. I mean, really,

1938
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 1: they haven't had a true franchise quarterback since Joe Namoth.

1939
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, They've had some some flashes, you know with

1940
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington, and you know, even Mark Sanchez for a

1941
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: year or so showed some promise, but they all they

1942
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 1: always end up in the same place, you know, which

1943
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: is where they are now, you know, facing a ton

1944
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: of decisions and having no clear path. So if they

1945
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: don't get Watson, which I don't think they will, I

1946
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 1: think he'll go somewhere else. If he goes anywhere at all, Man,

1947
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: if he ends up in this division, especially with Josh

1948
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Allen's improvement. There's a player that Jets could have had

1949
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: their their front office. The previous front office did not

1950
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: rate him among the top three quarterbacks in that draft.

1951
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: And you know he's going to be haunting them for

1952
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: a while. Jet fans will be in a bad place

1953
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: if this doesn't go for them, go their way. Man,

1954
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: you got anything else, Maddie, I was gonna say after that,

1955
01:45:55,640 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 1: after that answer, what is realistic hope for Jets fans

1956
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: this season? Well, they're very excited about Robert Salo. Let

1957
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 1: me say that I and I think, in fact, people

1958
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: from the organization told me this that when when they

1959
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: hired Robert, it was the most popular coaching hire they've made,

1960
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: probably going back to Bill Parcels in the late late nineties,

1961
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,600
Speaker 1: and I agree with that. I think it was a

1962
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: universally hailed move. So the fan base is excited. He's

1963
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a honeymoon. You know, this is not going

1964
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: to be an Adam Gas situation where the fans were

1965
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: on him from day one. He's gonna have a honeymoon.

1966
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 1: The fan base is still, by and large, very much

1967
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: in support of Joe Douglas and like I said earlier.

1968
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: The darn Old fan base is a split, it's a

1969
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. But I think the fans are going to

1970
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 1: be patient. I mean, if the Jets go seven and

1971
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 1: nine this year and they show promise and they come

1972
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: out of the year with hope at quarterback, I think

1973
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: they'll be they'll be content with that. Rich, as always,

1974
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: thanks for the time we no we ask you to

1975
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: be on quite often. We always thank you when you

1976
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: take the time to do that. We'll be keeping our

1977
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: eyeballs open for your reporting down there. It's certainly going

1978
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: to be an interesting offseason for that team. Sure, well,

1979
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, all right. Rich Tomini from ESPN

1980
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: NFL Nation. He's the Jets beat reporter and he is

1981
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: gonna be busy this offseason with everything that could be

1982
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 1: going on down there, the quarterback carousel, free agency. But

1983
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: we will take a break right now. When Maddy and

1984
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: I come back, we're gonna play off at jj Watts

1985
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: comments on social media when he responded to that fan

1986
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: asking hey, when are you going to pick a team,

1987
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: and he says, I can't even pick a restaurant for

1988
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: an Allen. We're gonna talk about some of the things

1989
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: that take us a while to pick, and even when

1990
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: I do, I don't always do a good job of it.

1991
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, along with maybe some NFL true

1992
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 1: false as well when we return here on One Bill's Live,

1993
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, Chris Brown,

1994
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: Maddy Glad final half hour of a Monday edition of

1995
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 1: the show. A reminder that Steve Tasker will be back

1996
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 1: from a short getaway tomorrow, so he'll be back on

1997
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: the program for the Tuesday edition. But Manny and I

1998
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: wanted to discuss in kind of a fun way. J J.

1999
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Watt responded to just a random person on Twitter over

2000
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: the weekend. It was like, Hey, you're gonna pick a

2001
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: team because everybody knows he's a free agent. And he

2002
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: basically responded to that fan and said, Hey, I scroll

2003
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: through door Dash for like an hour before I pick

2004
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: a restaurant, man, so you're gonna have to give me

2005
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: a second to choose a new team and city, which

2006
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,679
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of funny, But then Mannie

2007
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,040
Speaker 1: had the idea. She's like, hey, I've got stuff that

2008
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: takes me an hour to figure out. So since this

2009
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 1: was your idea, Maddie why don't you lead us off?

2010
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: What would you say is your equivalent of DoorDash? I

2011
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: have a couple. I mean, we all have things that

2012
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: take us longer than they should, and I feel like

2013
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 1: we all share certain things that take us longer than

2014
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: they actually should. One of mine is movies. Who sucks

2015
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: up picking movies? I definitely do. I will look around

2016
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: for movies for thirty minutes to then just end up

2017
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: at not finding a movie and just watching a TV show,

2018
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: watching an episode of something, wasting time looking for movies.

2019
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 1: I've wasted hours looking for movies. Another one for me

2020
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: getting out of bed in the morning. I hit that

2021
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: snooze alarm way too many times. Alarm, your alarm goes off,

2022
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: you should get out of bed. I will stay in

2023
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: bed until I have to get out of bed, and

2024
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 1: then if I have a decent amount of time to

2025
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 1: get ready in the morning, I will take every bit

2026
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: of that time and still be late for work. Five

2027
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 1: minutes late for work every day on which I'm given

2028
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: that time. Person made I had you pegged as a

2029
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: morning person. No, it depends, Okay. I like my sleep, yeah,

2030
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 1: but I know you're like a workout nuts. So I

2031
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: figured You're like up and at them and grinding and

2032
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: then getting ready for work after that. I'm surprised. I

2033
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 1: thought I didn't I know you were a snoozer. I'm

2034
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: a snoozer, although I do work out some morning, so

2035
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, it's it's okay to snooze. If you're

2036
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 1: going to get up a couple mornings to work out.

2037
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, I'm terrible in the movie game also,

2038
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 1: which has become even more pronounced during this pandemic, because

2039
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of us are doing to entertain ourselves.

2040
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: We're just kind of watching movies at night with family

2041
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:29,719
Speaker 1: and friends, mostly family or whoever's in your pod. And

2042
01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: it got so bad in terms of me picking the

2043
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: movie that I have lost my movie picking privileges. My

2044
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: family has taken that away from me because what happens

2045
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: is it takes too long to find something, and then

2046
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: I just end up getting to a point where I'm

2047
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: tired of asking for suggestions and I'm like, nobody wants

2048
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 1: to make a pick, all right, I'm just gonna pick this,

2049
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 1: and then it invariably sucks, and then they get mad

2050
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: at me because I actually made an executive decision and

2051
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: pick something. So now it's to the point where, well,

2052
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: Dad can't pick anymore, so I just let them handle it.

2053
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 1: So all the pressure's off now now there's no pressure

2054
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: to make a pick and have a Crumby movie. But yes,

2055
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: we will fall into that mode as well, where we're

2056
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, there's nothing here and I'm

2057
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: not paying seven ninety nine for that or six ninety

2058
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: nine for that. Let's just watch an episode of you know,

2059
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: one of the series that we DVR or whatever, and

2060
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: then we just end up doing that. So yes, I

2061
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: am in the same boat there. I would say. The

2062
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: only other thing that I am that takes me way

2063
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: too long is finding something that we have to buy online.

2064
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 1: Like if my wife's doing something else, she'll say to me, oh,

2065
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, like perfect example, Okay, she was trying to

2066
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: find a long ladle or like wood not a wooden spoon,

2067
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 1: but a long plastic spoon because when she makes sauce,

2068
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 1: it's a deep pot. The pot's like twelve inches high

2069
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 1: because she's making a lot, and so the regular spoon,

2070
01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 1: that thing's going to disappear in there. So she's trying

2071
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: to find something that's like sixteen eighteen inches, like a

2072
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 1: really long one. But she doesn't want a medal one.

2073
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I'll just so here. I am

2074
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: like online, I'm trying to find this, and you know,

2075
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like, well, they got wooden ones that are

2076
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 1: eighteen inches. I don't want to wooden one. I want

2077
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: a plastic going okay, let me see if I can

2078
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: find and I'm like paging through choices and it's like,

2079
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: this one's thirteen inches. This is thirteen and a half inches.

2080
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:25,320
Speaker 1: I could not find a long one. And invariably my

2081
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: wife will get online because she does a lot more

2082
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: of the online shopping than I do, I think, because

2083
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: she likes him first of all. But she finds it

2084
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: in like three minutes, and I get so frustrated that

2085
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I've been sitting there for twenty five minutes trying to

2086
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: mind my way through an endless number of choices, none

2087
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 1: of which are working, and she can find it in

2088
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 1: like three seconds. I'm terrible with searches also, like she'll

2089
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 1: be like, oh, find something for this, and I'll put

2090
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 1: like what I think are good search words, and I

2091
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,760
Speaker 1: can't find whatever the hell it is we're looking for,

2092
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 1: and then she'll put I was like, well, what did

2093
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: you use? How did you find that? I'm terrible at that?

2094
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,879
Speaker 1: Are you any better at that? I'm terrible at searches.

2095
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: I am good at searches. I feel like I've got

2096
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: the right search words when I need to search for something.

2097
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: But I agree with you, I am terrible at online shopping.

2098
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 1: I usually have like six pages up if I'm going

2099
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 1: to buy something, and then I wait, and then I

2100
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 1: don't buy it, or it's too late to buy it

2101
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: and it's no longer available. I dislike online shopping. It

2102
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: is not I'm not a fan of it. It takes

2103
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 1: up too much time. You don't know if things are

2104
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna work right or fit right or look right. I've

2105
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:39,879
Speaker 1: no thanks, yeah, and they've you know, and with everybody

2106
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: cooped up at home, there's a lot less inventory available

2107
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 1: out there because you'll find something like, you know, you'll

2108
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 1: find a pair of sneakers and be like, oh, I

2109
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 1: like those, those are pretty sharp, and then the color

2110
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 1: they're showing them in is not available. It's like, yeah,

2111
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: we've only got chartruse and cefoam. You know, we don't

2112
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Speaker 1: have black. It's like, uh, you're killing me. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can relate to that totally. Um, but I do

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01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 1: like online shoppings convenience. That's tough to be especially in

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01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: the winter. I don't have to go out in trapes

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01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: to a store to get something. And this is going

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 1: to be here in a day or two. I'm I

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01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 1: can I can work with that. Um. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would say movies are at the top of the list, though,

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01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: so geor Dash, I'd be online ordering a food. I

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01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: could do that in three seconds. I mean, that's yeah.

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01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 1: I feel like you. You've got a pretty big stomach.

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01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 1: Come on, don't you know what you're And that's what

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01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm that time. That's what I'm suspecting is the problem here,

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01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: because if you think about the food portions that he's

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01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 1: got to order, maybe there's a lot of places that

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01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: can't accommodate. Um. Although I would think, why what's stopping

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01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: you from bringing a giant order. It's more profit for you,

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01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: so get the job done. Um. Yeah, that's true. Maybe

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01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: has trouble just trying to figure out what he's in

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01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,440
Speaker 1: the mood for. That's also something that I'm terrible at.

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01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: What do you want for dinner? I don't know. I

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 1: don't know what I want to eat. I'll eat anything,

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01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me. But choose one thing. All right, Well,

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01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: I think we've covered the proper ground we needed to

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01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 1: on that one. What about a little NFL true false.

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: You're in the mood for some of this, let's do it, okay,

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01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 1: So NFL true false, as we know, is brought to

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01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy Yancy's Fancy New York's Artisan Cheese.

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01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 1: NFL true false Number one for you here, Maddie, Carson

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01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Wentz was the best quarterback option for the Colts. What

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Speaker 1: do you say on that? I'm going to say false.

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01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: If you flip it, I would say true. I think

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01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: the Colts, Carson Wentz and the Colts were the best

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01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: marriage for Carson Wentz, But in terms of the Colts

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: and a quarterback, I don't think it was the best marriage.

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01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: I think there's some better options out there. I think

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: it'll work out because, yes, you have that Frank Reich

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01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: connection there, and that's when Carson Wentz two. Wentz had

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01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 1: his two best years with the Eagles. But I don't

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01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,520
Speaker 1: think it might have been the best option for the cult.

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01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,760
Speaker 1: So I think it was the best option for Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Yeah, it's interesting that you say that,

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01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:19,919
Speaker 1: because as much as people can point to the success

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01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: that these two guys had to with each other, there's

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01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: some fixing that has to get done here. A lot

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 1: of people, a lot of experts, are of the opinion

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01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: that is, it's largely mechanical for Wentz. But what concerns

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01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: me is when you hear the stuff about how he

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01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: can't take hard coaching, how he didn't vibe well with

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Speaker 1: everyone in the locker room. I mean, we hear in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo all the time, hear about how Josh gets along

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01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: with the third string safety on defense, as well as

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01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: he does with the number one gunner on special teams,

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Speaker 1: as well as he does with his top two receivers.

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01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 1: I think we're quickly understanding that that can be easier

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 1: said than done for some of these quarterbacks if their

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Speaker 1: personality isn't what it needs to be to be that

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Speaker 1: at the most important position. And you wonder if he

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Speaker 1: rubbed some people the wrong way in Philadelphia, because there

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01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: certainly are reports and indications that that was the case. Now,

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Speaker 1: I guess we have to trust that Frank Reich, having

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Speaker 1: been around him for two years in Philadelphia, feels that

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Speaker 1: he knows that his personality will not clash and can

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Speaker 1: be properly worked with the rest of the locker room.

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Speaker 1: It's going to have to be at that position, but

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Speaker 1: I'm going to wait and see it before I believe it.

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Speaker 1: As far as being the best quarterback option for the Cults,

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Speaker 1: I think he was the best option right now. So

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Speaker 1: for the sake of this question, I am going to

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Speaker 1: say true as long as I get to say best

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Speaker 1: option right now, because I think if Sam Darnold comes free,

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Speaker 1: that would have been a better option for them. They're

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Speaker 1: not getting Deshaun Watson. They're trading him to a division rival.

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Speaker 1: That's just not happening. So I will say true for

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Speaker 1: right now. Knowing that Sam Darnold could come loose, knowing

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo could shake loose, there might be better options

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Speaker 1: than Carson Wentz, But for right now, I will say true.

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Speaker 1: You were saying false, right Yes, I said I said

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Speaker 1: false because I am like you. I'm looking into the

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Speaker 1: future and what could be available in the future. So

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Speaker 1: true False. Number two, The Carolina Panthers should package Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey in a deal to get to Sean Watson. Now

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01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: we have heard, and we have seen they are already

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Speaker 1: slashing players off the roster to save Caprio. It's been

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Speaker 1: upwards of almost half a dozen players over the last

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Speaker 1: ten days. I'm gonna say true, if you want to

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson and you're gonna cut and do whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to get to Shaun Watson, I think this is

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Speaker 1: maybe your easiest way to get to seawan On Watson,

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Speaker 1: your easiest route to possibly get to Shaun Watson. But

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Speaker 1: losing Christian McCaffrey would definitely hurt this team. So if

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Speaker 1: this team is thinking it doesn't matter who we lose,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be a quarterback that we can

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Speaker 1: build around for years to come because he is a

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Speaker 1: younger quarterback, then go for it. I guess what do

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01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 1: you have to lose. It's it's a newer coaching staff

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Speaker 1: to this coaching staff didn't draft Christian McCaffrey. I think

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Speaker 1: anybody can value Christian McCaffrey though, no matter if you

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Speaker 1: drafted him or not. But I just keep going back

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01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:39,960
Speaker 1: to if you want to Shaun Watson badly enough, then

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Speaker 1: might have to cut some more players, or shop around

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Speaker 1: some players, or trade some players like christiancaffrey. Yeah, knowing

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Speaker 1: what my philosophy is on running backs, which is, don't

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Speaker 1: sign them the giant long term contracts, just draft another one.

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Speaker 1: I would be all for unloading his contract on the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans in a trade. The problem is, I'm not

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Speaker 1: so certain they would be interested in taking on a

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Speaker 1: monster contract like McCaffrey's in a trade scenario. They're looking

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Speaker 1: to free up cap space and get draft capital. If

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Speaker 1: the Panthers are talking to them, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're interested in McCaffrey. I mean, they already made one

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Speaker 1: trade for a running back just last year with DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins in Arizona, getting David Johnson on the way back,

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02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,000
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they do the same thing

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Speaker 1: with McCaffrey too. I could see them being interested in

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson the receiver and draft choices. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about whether they'd be interested in McCaffrey, but if they are,

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Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent throwing him in the deal,

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Speaker 1: even with the cap hit that the Panthers would take,

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02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,800
Speaker 1: because they just signed him to that giant extension last year,

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02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 1: so they'd have some dead cap on their books from McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: But if they want him and I can get Watson.

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Speaker 1: Bring it on. I am doing it, so yes, I

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02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 1: am saying true. I just still can't wrap my head

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Speaker 1: around the trade proposal that Peter King put together for

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Speaker 1: the Panthers that I read off to before. That's seven

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Speaker 1: for one deal, McCaffrey, Bridgewater, Robbie Anderson, a first in,

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02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: a second in this year's draft, and then another one

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and a third rounder in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, all for Watson. That's insane. I think what

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Speaker 1: would be interesting and here and the reports are very interesting, Maddie,

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02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 1: because they are saying that David Tepper, their new owner,

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Speaker 1: is a very aggressive minded owner. So I do firmly

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Speaker 1: expect that if Watson comes free and is available for trade,

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Speaker 1: that the Panthers are going to be in a all in,

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02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 1: all the chips in the middle of the table type

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02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 1: scenario to try to get him. I think they want

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Speaker 1: to be a player. And think about this too, Maddie.

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Speaker 1: He is like one of the most recognizable players in

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Speaker 1: that Charlotte, North Carolina area, already having played at Clemson,

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02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:04,800
Speaker 1: which is just a stone's throw away. So from a

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Speaker 1: marketing standpoint, it would be gigantic Also, you'd feel that

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02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: building every week with Clemson fans going to Panthers games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's huge. So I could see David Tepper

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Speaker 1: being overly aggressive and overpaying just to get them. So

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Speaker 1: that's going to be one to watch if they suddenly

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Speaker 1: make them available for trade. Okay, NFL true falls number

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Speaker 1: three and we're tight on time, so we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: this one quickly. The Jets are the most interesting team

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Speaker 1: this offseason. It's pretty interesting, but there's also other interesting

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Speaker 1: teams this offseason, so I wouldn't say they are the

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Speaker 1: most interesting team this offseason. I'm saying falls. Yeah, I

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02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: think there's other interesting teams. They can't. I can't put

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Speaker 1: a value on their interesting factor versus others. I think

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02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: there are definitely other interesting teams out there. But because

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Speaker 1: of where we sit here in Buffalo and knowing they

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02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 1: have a quarterback decision to make, knowing they have two

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Speaker 1: first round picks, I think they're kind of neck and

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Speaker 1: neck with Miami. But I'm gonna say true. I'm it's

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02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: mainly because I'm curious to see, once and for all,

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02:03:22,160 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 1: can they get it right? That's what makes it so interesting.

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02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 1: Can they get it right? Because for forty years, they

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02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: have not, so that's why I'm gonna say, yes, they

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Speaker 1: are the most interesting. All right. That's NFL True Falls

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Nancy's Fancy Maddie and I back

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Speaker 1: in a second to wrap things up here. On a

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Speaker 1: Monday edition of One Bill's Live pre's Anybody Collide to Health?

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio and Maddie talking to Rich Samini,

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Speaker 1: we learned that I was most interested to learn that

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Speaker 1: the Bill the Jets fan base is fifty fifty on

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02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:55,000
Speaker 1: Darnold and whether he should stay or whether he should go.

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02:03:55,160 --> 02:03:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean Mike and que the clash song. Right now,

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02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't know where that thing's going to end up,

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02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 1: but that's why I voted the way I did at

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Speaker 1: the end of True Falls. That's gonna be very interesting, Yeah,

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02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 1: to know a fan base is split down the middle,

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Speaker 1: and to know we don't know what's happening inside the

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02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 1: walls there at the Jets facility, but to know that

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02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 1: you know who knows what's going to happen there as well.

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02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 1: Of course, there's been reports that they are going to

2292
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: look into the draft and do their due diligence of

2293
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,760
Speaker 1: researching these quarterbacks and reaching out to these quarterbacks, but

2294
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 1: not knowing if that's going to turn into picking a

2295
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 1: number to pick overall, if it is Zach Wilson there.

2296
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's going to be an interesting offseason for

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02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: the Jets with what they're going to do in free

2298
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,600
Speaker 1: agency with Sam Darnold, with Robert Sala, a lot of

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02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:50,040
Speaker 1: new things on the horizon possibly for the Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this decision, as you mentioned, it's not going to

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02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 1: come quickly. They're going to do all of their pre

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Speaker 1: draft prep and then ask themselves can one of these

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Speaker 1: guys do better for us sooner rather than later than

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02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,080
Speaker 1: Sam Arnold can do for us now? And they'll probably

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Speaker 1: make the decision there in Mattie, thanks for your help

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Speaker 1: on Friday and again today. I appreciate it. Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow. And our thanks to the guys

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Speaker 1: in the control room and did their best Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: Scramble Drill with all the technical difficulties we had. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for keeping us on the air. Sorry to our phone

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02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: callers that we're ready to contribute to the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow.