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Speaker 1: Before we begin, I have a very special announcement to make.

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Speaker 1: Ben and Crate and Barrel are going to be throwing

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Speaker 1: me a bridal shower in l A at the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Studio actually on June five. My mom's flying in

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Speaker 1: for it, my sister is gonna be here, a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of my bachelor friends will be coming. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be bringing my favorite foods I've already kind

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Speaker 1: of given them a little hint hint, and my favorite

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Speaker 1: desserts like German chocolate cake. I'm then we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some games and it's just going to be the best

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Speaker 1: night ever. So it's not just gonna be me and

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Speaker 1: my friends and my bachelor friends, It's actually going to

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Speaker 1: be some of you almost famous podcast listeners out there

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Speaker 1: as well. The first ten people to email Ben and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I hurt Media dot com will have a chance

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Speaker 1: to attend the bridal shower here at the I Heart station.

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Speaker 1: So the first ten people to email Ben and Ashley

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Speaker 1: at almost Ben in actually it I Heart media dot

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Speaker 1: Com will be able to attend my bridal shower courtesy

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Speaker 1: of Ben and Creighton Beryl, who have been so good

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Speaker 1: to me throughout this whole engagement process. This is Ben

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Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth, you guys, Ben's

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Speaker 1: not here for this in depth, which which no offense

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Speaker 1: to Ben. Maybe a good thing because it's just gonna

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Speaker 1: be some straight girl talk with me and his ex

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Speaker 1: girlfriend and his ex girlfriend. If you couldn't tell by

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Speaker 1: that laugh. We have Caitlin Bristow in the studio. When

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Speaker 1: people clap, it's like for me, Caitlin, I feel really

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Speaker 1: special that you agreed to come on almost Famous, because

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Speaker 1: we are pretty much direct rivals. Well, I would always

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Speaker 1: have you on my poll, right because I come on yours,

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Speaker 1: you come on mine. We're rivals, but we are also

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Speaker 1: great friends. And yes, all right, and I love you too.

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Speaker 1: And every podcast I do with you, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: it's girl talk, and it's the stuff that I think

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Speaker 1: our listeners want to hear. Given the people what they want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I have like a list of my own of

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Speaker 1: things that we need to bring up that the public

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Speaker 1: has never heard us talk about it. Yeah, that's really fun.

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Speaker 1: But I also have some general questions I think I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start with. All right, So let's start out

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Speaker 1: with some of the questions that the public wants to

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Speaker 1: know the answers to Okay, you and Jason seemed like

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Speaker 1: you're in a really good place right now. What are

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Speaker 1: you going to get engaged December to know? I'm just kidding. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are in a good place. But who is in

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Speaker 1: a good place? Like three months into a relationship, Well,

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Speaker 1: that's true. So would you say it's three months now?

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Speaker 1: Three like solidified months. I feel like December was when

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Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, we don't want to like to

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Speaker 1: be talking to anyone else. So that's oh I guess whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's a long time. Yeah, I know, it's like six months,

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Speaker 1: that's half a year. Yeah, we are in a good place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you are, so I think that it's six months.

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Speaker 1: It comes to this place in a relationship where you

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Speaker 1: start getting really comfortable with each other, you start getting

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Speaker 1: comfortable calling them out on certain things. I was already

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Speaker 1: like that day too though. Oh really okay, so being

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Speaker 1: a little bit more gross in front of them, gross definitely?

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Speaker 1: What what are we? What are we seeing happening at

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Speaker 1: this transition point? For you guys, Jason is going to

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Speaker 1: kill me. But he started tuting in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's so hot. I do, Wait, why

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Speaker 1: do you think that's hot? Not that I understand. My

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Speaker 1: reason is because I think it says a lot about

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Speaker 1: with and comfort level. Yeah, Like they're confident and comfortable

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Speaker 1: All right, So Jared is only farted in front of

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Speaker 1: me twice, what I know, in in a year and

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Speaker 1: almost you know, a year and some What about when

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Speaker 1: We recently had a conversation on this podcast with Vanessa Grimaldi.

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Speaker 1: Do you hear about this? But she talked about, Yes,

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Speaker 1: she's apparently really really obsessed with pooping in relationship, so

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Speaker 1: that would be a huge turn off. Well, okay, it's

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Speaker 1: flush it right away. In matches, do you remember during

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Speaker 1: make me, I think through throw up, Like I can

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Speaker 1: Yeah that I remember that situation. And she wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, okay, Um, Well, moving on. So you

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Speaker 1: think that farting is attractive in Jason? And what else

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Speaker 1: are we like feeling? Like, what's like a little nitpicky

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Speaker 1: fight you've had? Because I think that I've always brought

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Speaker 1: up the fact that Jared and I like fight over

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Speaker 1: the fact that he loves his chapsticks somewhere dumb or

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Speaker 1: like his chopsticks, chapsticks, chapsticks. I was like, do you

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he did the nose thing? And how did

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Speaker 1: you rather keep it to myself? And He's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I always I'm you know him. He's just he can

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Speaker 1: so it's like all inner animal. But I also haven't

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Speaker 1: lived with him, so I don't know other little nitpicky

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Speaker 1: he snores, so that's you know, that's annoying. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's just we're not at that point where I

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Speaker 1: of phase where things are really annoying me. Like everything

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Speaker 1: he does right now is pretty cute. Yeah, Like even

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Speaker 1: we were pretty just we're just a happy couple right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it's moving too fast? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that it happened too fast after relationship, out of

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Speaker 1: friendship and out of per request. I'm not gonna bring

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Speaker 1: up Sewan's name very often, and we're not going to

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Speaker 1: get in depth with Sean. Okay, his name may pop

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Speaker 1: up here or there, of course naturally. But do you

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Speaker 1: it probably looked fast, and it was fast. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to deny that. But I think I've said this

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Speaker 1: before and and I'll stand by it that I think

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Speaker 1: I knew for a year that my relationship wouldn't work,

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Speaker 1: and he admitted that. And I think for a solid year,

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Speaker 1: it was perfect timing because I just knew what I

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Speaker 1: And that is kind of what I said to Sean

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Speaker 1: that I don't feel like there was any um accountability,

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Speaker 1: and then some other people will be like, that's so petty.

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Speaker 1: She's just responding in a way, right, So for us,

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Speaker 1: it's it's just so hard to keep it back. But

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Speaker 1: I think you and I have kept a lot of

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Speaker 1: things back in the past year or so that like

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Speaker 1: we would love to tell everyone, but we know at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day we are going to be

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Speaker 1: the bigger people for not exactly because also at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, why would why does it have

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Speaker 1: to matter what other people think? Like I know the truth.

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Speaker 1: the end of that that matters to me. And that's

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Speaker 1: the same thing with the relationship with Jason. It's like,

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Speaker 1: if I don't show it, I'm hiding it. If I

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Speaker 1: show it, it's too soon. Like you're damned if you do,

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Speaker 1: and your damned if you don't. In this world, and

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Speaker 1: if you have any sort of platform or on social media,

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Speaker 1: are people watching you can eat an apple and you're

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Speaker 1: doing something wrong, it just doesn't matter. So at the

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Speaker 1: On The Bachelor at reunion show, you talk about never

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Speaker 1: expecting to date another Bachelor family member after Sean, and

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Speaker 1: pery presented. I'm clearly joking and the show pokes fun

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Speaker 1: I was so ridiculous. But the truth is he was

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Speaker 1: you start overthinking and you don't know what's real and

426
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: what you know. And I think too for Jared, Like,

427
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about you, guys, is that you never

428
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: changed who you were for him. You wanted to, but

429
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: you didn't. That's that's true. Yeah, I couldn't become you,

430
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: even though I do always say if there was somebody

431
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: whose personality I can switch with, I would I would

432
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: choose Caitly. Yeah, I've not told you that before that. Well,

433
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: there you go. I'm just gonna take that clip and

434
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put it as my ringtone, my alarm for

435
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 1: when I wake up and just remind myself that you

436
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 1: want my person Yeah, totally. And I wanted your personality

437
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: truly since the first day I met you. When we

438
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: were first in the Bachelor Mansion. We were in the

439
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: first group of fifteen because in our weird season. There

440
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: was like there was there was thirty and then there

441
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: was fifteen that came in. Then Chris like took a

442
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: break talked to us it was just fifteen, and then

443
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: they brought fifteen in. But I was watching you the

444
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: whole night. It was you and Britt and I was like,

445
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: when it comes to like outwards it and I know,

446
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Isn't it crazy that the first night

447
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: I was most intimidated by you and your co bachelor.

448
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like, between their their beauty and their personalities,

449
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: because there was something about you two that both lit

450
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: up the room and your confidence was just like wow,

451
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: um yeah, I could never act that way with the

452
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 1: guy that I thought was hot right away. Oh man,

453
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was one of my lot can I

454
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: thought I was the tits on that show? Like I

455
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 1: really did, I really did. Well. You really came in

456
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: with that. You know, you were like, oh no, I

457
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: got this from your entrance, which I later saw to

458
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: just how you behaved with him that first day. You

459
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: were so outgoing when everybody else was so nervous. Yeah,

460
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. It might have been

461
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: the tequila, but I also just I don't know why.

462
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I just felt comfortable in that situation. I still to

463
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: this day don't know why. It's just like it didn't

464
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: phase me, and I don't know what that was from. Well,

465
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: I can relate because I think the day that I

466
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: had casting weekend for Chris's season, I went through the

467
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: whole process of meaning with the BAT producers to background

468
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: checks and help people and then just having the producers

469
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: like come and visit and all that stuff. I got

470
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: my on the fault with my mom that day and

471
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm doing it because I wasn't really sure.

472
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: There was stuff was going well with a guy that

473
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: I really liked, and I really wanted it to go

474
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: well for a very long time, and it was all

475
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: finally happening, and I really was like, I'm not sure

476
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: if I want to do it. But after going through

477
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: just the casting day, I thought, I feel like I belonged.

478
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: And I called my mom and I was like, I

479
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: belong here. That's what I felt too. I felt like

480
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing that. Yeah. Yeah, well look,

481
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean like maybe we had that feeling because we

482
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: both ended up finding our person that It's that's another

483
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: weird like I believe so much in universe stuff, and

484
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: I was, what's crazy is I was reading a book

485
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: when I was going through the hard time, and I

486
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: read this book UM called Light is the New Black,

487
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: and it's this book about paying attention to signs from

488
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: the universe. And when I met Jason, all these weird

489
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: signs kept happening, like your mind would be blown. I

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: told you that. Give me a couple of examples. Okay,

491
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: So after the podcast, I sent him a picture of

492
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: us to post. And let's clarify you were broken up

493
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: with Sean at this point hadn't gone public with that news, correct,

494
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: And so I sent him a picture to say, here's

495
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: a picture in case you want to post. Then I

496
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: was watching the Lion King on my flight home and

497
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: he was watching the Lion King on his Instagram stories

498
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't know. We both didn't know, and then

499
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: we found it, like, that's so weird that we're watching

500
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: and he was watching the Lion King on his Instagram

501
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: stores like he like posted something like I'm watching the

502
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Lion King, like really yeah, at the same same time,

503
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: and we didn't know. And then I figured I was like,

504
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: that's weird. And then he goes you actually kind of

505
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: remind me of Nala and he and he like because

506
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: when I met him, my hair was all messy and

507
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: wild and I was just like, you know how I am.

508
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm like wow, like big personality. And so he said

509
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: I reminded him of Nala and then so that was weird.

510
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: And then I got home, but I can see you're

511
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: very palncy, like very palncy, very councy. And uh so

512
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: then I went to get into an uber and um,

513
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: the uber driver stopped at a crosswalk and a dog

514
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: was crossing the street and he started talking to me.

515
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm really sorry for picking you up a

516
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: little bit late. Um, but I took a wrong turn.

517
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: He goes, in, I passed the car of my dreams

518
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: and I just believe in signs from the universe. And

519
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: he's like, and I think I was supposed to pass

520
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: that car because it just reminded me of what I'm

521
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: working hard towards. And he was like, you can't ignore

522
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the universe, and I was like yeah, and then I

523
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I just read a book

524
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: on this. That's so crazy. And he stopped at the

525
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: crosswalking a dog passed and he goes. I used to

526
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: be so terrified of dogs, he goes, but my wife

527
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: made me get one. Now I love dogs. I'm like,

528
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: don't get me started. I love dogs. I said, what's

529
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: your dog's name? He said Nala? No. Yeah. Right after

530
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: you talked about like signs from the universe, and it

531
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: was and then it just didn't stop. There's so many

532
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: signs and that I wasn't even still thinking at that moment, oh,

533
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be with Jason. I was just like, WHOA, Okay,

534
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: the I'm just paying attention to like certain things now,

535
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: like not thinking, oh, I'm supposed to be with Jason. Like,

536
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: but I do believe in certain things like that, like

537
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: things happening for a reason and that you know, you

538
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: went on Chris Soul season too, because you know, like

539
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: everything that's happened has led you to to where you

540
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: are now, and the same thing I know. Um, there

541
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: was this really cool time one time I was on

542
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: the bus from New York City to Syracuse and I

543
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: was worried about everything, and I was looking at the

544
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: window just daydreaming, like kind of trying to picture what

545
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: I wanted because I used to before, like my dreams

546
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: actually became reality. I used to just dream all the time.

547
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm totally a fan of the power positive thinking because

548
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: there's really not anything I've dreamed up that didn't meet

549
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: to happen, which is pretty crazy. So then there's this

550
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: man who looked like Santa Claus, who like it was

551
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: who I call my Morgan Freeman in in like what's

552
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: the movie Bruce Mighty. Yes. He tapped me on the

553
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: shoulder because he was looking at my reflection looking out

554
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: the window, and he goes, I don't know what you're

555
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: thinking about right now, but I just want to let

556
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: you know that everything's going to work out. What yeah,

557
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: you're And I was like what? And I that that

558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: will stay with me forever. He's like, kids of your

559
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: generation are always worrying about their future, but like, just

560
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: trust me, I know he was your little Santa Claus

561
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: is one of the two. I found a picture and

562
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: one of my girlfriends sent me from ten years ago

563
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: where I was writing out my goals in what I

564
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: wanted in life, and I had written out that I

565
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: wanted to be on TV and have my own radio show,

566
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, podcasting is kind of and I

567
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: went on TV and like I also had build my

568
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: own empire and have my own businesses. Like, I'll look

569
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: at what you did. I know, so you are pretty

570
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: outword about the fact you just wanted to be on

571
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: TV and I got my masters in broadcasting. Yeah, I

572
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: want to be on TV, like to us, right, So

573
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: is it annoying when people are like, I like the

574
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: fact that we admit to going on the show for

575
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: not necessarily the fame of it, but like the experience opportunity. Yeah,

576
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity and the fact that it could help us

577
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: reach our goals. Yeah, of course, right. I've always been

578
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: open about that, So I never, for lack of a

579
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: better term, shi on anybody who seems to be there

580
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: for the wrong reason. How do you feel about people

581
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: when they call out the wrong reasons on the show?

582
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: I go back and forth because sometimes, like this season

583
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: on on Colton season, I was like, oh my gosh,

584
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: these girls are like is it bad that I think

585
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: that there's a difference between social media going on for

586
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: social media versus going on to like build a brand,

587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: build a career. Yeah? Yeah, I saw it as like

588
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: like I'm like, was everybody just trying to be that

589
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: girl on TV? They like they they kind of have

590
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: no shame in their game where they just kind of

591
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: went on and they're like, I don't care if I'm

592
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: the idiot girl, like, it'll get me Instagram followers. Where

593
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: I when I went on, I mean, we didn't know

594
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: the power of social media when we didn't have it.

595
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: We were like for the last pure generation. Yes it

596
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: really was, and so I I mean, I knew I

597
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: wanted to build some sort of brand. I knew I

598
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: wanted to have more opportunities. I knew I wanted to

599
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: have some sort of platform, but I didn't know what

600
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: it could be. Where now girls go on and they

601
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: know what it could be. But I still respect that,

602
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, hey, if you want to just go

603
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: and be crazy and get Instagram followers and like sell

604
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: whatever you can for a hot minute, like do it.

605
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I didn't hate them for wanting to make money, No,

606
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you really can't. So I'm like, but it's kind of

607
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of ruining the show where I'm

608
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know if I believe anybody for

609
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: going on. Well, I guess that brings us to the

610
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: topic of Cassie, like she obviously wasn't ready to get

611
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: engaged or maybe even be in a serious relationship, because

612
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: Calton was even at the end, she was like, we

613
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: don't have to get engaged. So if it gets to

614
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: the point where so many people are going on the

615
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: show and they're not even ready, then I think it's

616
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: becoming an issue. I think Yeah, for me personally, I said,

617
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm going on for my career. However, if I meet

618
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: the man of my dreams, bonus bonus, and if Crystals

619
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: is my soul mate, I wouldn't have a problem moving

620
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: to Iowa for the love of my life. I was saying.

621
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: I said the same thing. I'm like, I if anybody

622
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: really knows me, they know I'm actually like a little

623
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: bit of a homebody. I like being out in like

624
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: in a silent, quiet place with land, Like that's what

625
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: I want. I could live in a shoe box if

626
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: I was happy, Like I don't need you know, Like,

627
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: I totally believe in that same thing. If if you're

628
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: with the right person, doesn't matter. I was the same

629
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: people are always like I remember Jimmy Kimbell being like,

630
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: there's no way you would have wanted to live on

631
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: a farm. I'm like, yeah, I really wouldn't. I mean,

632
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I would have been fine if he was the love

633
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: of my life. I will always put love and family

634
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: above career. Absolutely. Yeah, me too so And at the

635
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, we are we were not there

636
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: for the wrong reasons. We were there for realistic reasons, realistic,

637
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: very realistic, and we still believed in love exactly. Yeah.

638
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. I was like if I

639
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: fell in love out this, Wow, what a bonus. Yeah.

640
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of career, Jason is still working his regular job,

641
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: which is super hot and attractive. Is there ever any

642
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: jealousy where he's like, oh, you're the one that gets

643
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: like the cool job and the fame. Zero. He is

644
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: my hype man, that's what you want. He is legitimately

645
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: the most proud guy I've ever been with. He is

646
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: so proud of me, and like he wants to because

647
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: he's so smart with numbers and like on the financial

648
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: side of things, like he wants to be a teammate

649
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: with me. He's like, you are creative, you are like

650
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: this personality. He goes no shame in saying this. He's like,

651
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I am the brains and ill. You're not lacking in

652
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: that department. Even No, And he would never say that

653
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: but he knows I'm smart in the things that I do,

654
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: and he's smart in the things that he doesn't. Together,

655
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: we make a really solid team. And he is literally

656
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: just like his mom said this too. She's like Caitlin,

657
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: he's just a happy, go lucky, good energy guy. Like

658
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: he's just not one time would he ever make me

659
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: feel like he's just not the most proud boyfriend out there. Cute, Yeah,

660
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: so cute. He's really I call him my hype man

661
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: all the time. He asked me to not call him

662
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: my cheerleader, hy man, cheerer, same thing, one is more man.

663
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Like I think I said cheerleader. One time He's like,

664
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe maybe don't say the term cheerleader. And I'm like, oh,

665
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm in a nice way, but like, yeah, he's my

666
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: hype man. He really is. He really is. Um. Okay,

667
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: So if we were to like go back in time

668
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: and let's just let's take a little bit of a

669
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: let's take a little bit of a nostalgic moment, talk

670
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: about where we first met and all that, and then

671
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: we'll resume with Jason and current and current stuff. So

672
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: what was your first impression of Chris Souls and can

673
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you believe that you developed such strong feelings for him

674
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: in hindsight. Uh my, I yes, I can believe it

675
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: because I thought he was so attractive. I thought he

676
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: was the hottest ever. I did too, But did you

677
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: think that before we were on the show, you did? So?

678
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: On Andy season, didn't think he was that hot. Uh.

679
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Then they started doing like the Bachelor makeover on him,

680
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, he's getting cute. He's getting cute,

681
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: and pictures that I was looking at and then when

682
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 1: I saw him on that driveway was hot. Yeah, I

683
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: always I can tell you. I remember telling my sister

684
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: and my best friend while he was on Andy season,

685
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm always down with a farmer,

686
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: Like I thought that was so hot. I used to

687
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: be like, I grew up in a really small farm

688
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: town in Alberta and Canada, and like every guy I

689
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: dated lived on a farm. Growing up like that was

690
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: I used to lie to people and tell them I

691
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: lived on a farm because I thought it was cool.

692
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: And so to me, I was like, oh, the farmer

693
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: really does it for me, And so yeah, I always

694
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: thought he was hot, and then in person, I thought

695
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: he was even hotter. And then I thought I I mean,

696
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything bad about Chris because I

697
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: don't really have anything bad to say, but he just

698
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: he was kind of like he had a tough time

699
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: stringing words together sometimes, and I think he was nervous. Sure,

700
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: but I thought I was the only one that did

701
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: it to him, So I was that's why I was

702
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: so confident. Probably I was like, this guy gets so

703
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: nervous around me, and then I watched him like, oh no,

704
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: he's like I love your interpret of that. That's awesome. Yeah,

705
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: That's that's where my confidence level was that. I was like,

706
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: this guy wants me, Like I always say, I was

707
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: the most confident I'd ever been on that whole show

708
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: going into the night that he dumped me. So were

709
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: you not expecting that at all? I had a complete

710
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: out of body experience. I'll never forget. It was me,

711
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Whitney and Becca standing there and I was making jokes.

712
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: I was like being so funny and I'm like, I'm

713
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: Becca like it was like, oh, can I talk to

714
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: you for a second, and she was like, I'm going home.

715
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: She looked at me, She's like, I'm going home, and

716
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: so she was like, can I talk to you for

717
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: a second and they went away and I look at Whitney.

718
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know it, she'll be the bachelorette.

719
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: And I was like it's just you know, it's you

720
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and I know, like yeah, I can't wait to meet

721
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: his family. And then she came back and I was like, oh,

722
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: I guess Whitney's going home. So Becka walks back into

723
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: the Roadstrem and I'm like, well, I'm sorry, what if

724
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: you walk back into the roadst room with a rose? No? No,

725
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: she just came back and stood there and I was like, well,

726
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: I guess Whitney's going home. And then when he didn't

727
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: call my name, I was like what. And then I

728
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: remember Chris Harrison walking up and doing the whole like Caitlin,

729
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, please say your goodbyes. And I was like,

730
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: this is an outer body experience. I am that girl

731
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: on TV right now that didn't see that coming. Chris

732
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: Harrison is telling me, I'm like, say your goodbyes, and

733
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: it was just a complete out of body I did

734
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: not see it coming. I was just shocked. Absolutely. So

735
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: you were picturing an engagement with Chris, Yeah, Like I

736
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: almost got nervous at one point because I was like, shoot,

737
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: am I ready to get engaged because he's for sure

738
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: going to propose to me? No way? Yeah that's hilarious. Yeah,

739
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: it was quite funny. So how long do they get

740
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: took to recover from that breakup? Um? Then they made

741
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: me stick around in Iowa for twelve days after I

742
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: flew home from Baling, and then you were over it,

743
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: and then I was. It was like twelve days of

744
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: hanging around like a producer and sitting in a house

745
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: all cooped up, and I was just so confused and

746
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: lost and like I couldn't believe it. Then they made

747
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: me do b roll and walk around Iowa and I'm like, oh,

748
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: he's going to come back because he made a mistake.

749
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna make me do beat. Jared thought, though, really

750
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: I do that because they make you do this beat role.

751
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, well they must be coming

752
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: back to get me and they want to catch it

753
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: the b roll in Iowa. Well, so you guys that

754
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: don't know out there, and really nobody does. They sent

755
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: cameras to Jared's hometown to film with his parents and

756
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: him after Caitlin dumped him in Ireland. Oh wait, I

757
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: didn't know that, Oh you didn't know. Oh yeah, they

758
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: had producers and cameras come and so he was totally

759
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: ready to go back to you, which was another reason

760
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: that he went into Paradise, being like, no, she caught

761
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: he in his mind, he was like, she contemplated having

762
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: me back. I did, he did, only only because okay,

763
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I did. Bennett was like so convinced

764
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: that I it was Bennette of the Jar. Yes, so

765
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: he sorry, I shouldn't say i'd Bennett wanted me to

766
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: do because I got so confused at the end, and

767
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: I was just like like, who am I and what

768
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: am I doing? And did this guy like I thought?

769
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Shawn is a girlfriend back home? Like

770
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know at that point anything, and I started

771
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: getting really in my own head. And then he's like,

772
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: you know what, you just got to go back and

773
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: knock on Jared's door. So it was his idea. I

774
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it was. Were you torn between Ben and

775
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Nick then for the top two spot? Uh? No, I

776
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: knew when it was the final three, I knew I

777
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: was going to pick Sean. I wanted to send Nick

778
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: home third because I didn't want to do that to

779
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: his family and meet his family again and have to

780
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: put him through all of what he just went through

781
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 1: on Andy's season. But the Sean Nick feud was such

782
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: good TV that, you know, I didn't really have a choice.

783
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean I probably did, but I was like whatever.

784
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, was We're feelings for Ben stronger

785
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: than Nick or we did? You just know straight up

786
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm picking Sean, So whatever hands up in

787
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: the air, doesn't matter who my number two or three is.

788
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was. That makes sense. So then

789
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: let's go back to Chris for a second. What was

790
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: some standout memories that you have from that season. I

791
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: have two with you that I'm going to talk about. Okay,

792
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: I remember when you went into the tent. I remember

793
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: the same thing camping, and then I went into the

794
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: tent after you. Chris was sleeping in the tent. It

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: was so awkward. I don't know what I was thinking. Well,

796
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking either. I think

797
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: they're just the jack. It was Jack right, like I

798
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: five each other on our way. But it was like,

799
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: you take any time you can get at that point,

800
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: you know in the show, you you don't really get

801
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot of time with them. So you're like, well,

802
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: he's just sitting alone in his tent right now, Like

803
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to get to know him better, like everyone

804
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: just everyone automatically goes to something sexual. But you're really like,

805
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: do I have a connection with him? Like, I might

806
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: as well take this time figure it out. And so

807
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: you went in the tent first, and then I did.

808
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: And then on the big five minute like premiere for

809
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: the whole season, they showed me going into the tent

810
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: and made me look like I was going to be

811
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: the villain, but it was actually like you in there something. Yeah,

812
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: And then and I think I said something about you

813
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: that I wanted to I would rather chew glass and

814
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: wash it down with a bag of hair than lose

815
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: to you. But why me? I remember you said that,

816
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: and then you told me later you know what, maybe

817
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day it was actually about Kelsey,

818
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: but they edited it to make it look like it

819
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: was about you in the premiere. Yeah, that stands out

820
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: to me. Um, it stands out to me. When I

821
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: told you I thought you should get your period in

822
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: a shark tank. Oh that was the line you told

823
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: me that and then we ended up going into that

824
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: hotel and we shared the same hotel room. And then

825
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: and then you laughed because you liked that I had

826
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: a sense of humor about Yes, you did. That was

827
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: the one thing I always tell people. I say that

828
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: you are one of the most confident people I've ever

829
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: met in my whole life, because people always like to

830
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: make fun of you for the crying and the whole thing.

831
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you, you know who you are, though,

832
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: and you're actually so confident. Thank you you, And you're

833
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: just and you're confident in your emotions and just who

834
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: you are as a person. But that I remember when

835
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: we shared that hotel room and I was like, I

836
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: can't cry. I don't cry. Oh my god, that was

837
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: the story I was gonna tell. Yeah, and then and

838
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: then I was like, I love this girl. Well, first off,

839
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: thank you for saying the thing about my confidence, because

840
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: that means you truly know me because I don't care

841
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: if I'm I'm crying. I'm like, yeah, I don't care

842
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: who sees me crying. You never, you don't care. No,

843
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: I really don't love that. But the hotel room I

844
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: was thinking of because I remember you saying I don't cry,

845
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, I think I need to cry, though,

846
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: I think you would be healthy for me. At this point,

847
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I think we were like ten days in because our

848
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: season didn't leave the Bachelor Mansion were Yeah, because we left,

849
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: we had four full episodes at the Bachelor Mansion. That's

850
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: like twenty days, isn't it. That's like maybe i'd say

851
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: it was probably that's that's true. Way out of yeah. Okay,

852
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: So it was about ten days and you're like, I

853
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: think I really need to cry, but I haven't done

854
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: it yet. So let's watch a sad movie. So we

855
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: watched The Fault in My Start, the Fault in the Stars,

856
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: the Fault in Our in Our Stars, and you fell

857
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: asleep and I just sat there. I was like, well,

858
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just cry again. Yeah. I was like

859
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: a robot. I don't know what was wrong with me.

860
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: I just couldn't cry. You didn't cry until you're eliminated, right,

861
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, I definitely can't do that. Yeah, um, Carly

862
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: and I cried and I was like, I'm not gonna cry.

863
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: Actually this is they didn't air this, but I was like,

864
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not gonna cry. And we went on this

865
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: group date where he picked brit to go to the

866
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: um save a horse ride, a cowboy date, and he

867
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: took her to the concert and we all had to yeah,

868
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: and we all had to sit there and like wait

869
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: for them to come back from the concert, just the

870
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: two of them, like idiots, and I remember doing tequila

871
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: shots and then I remember being like, okay, I'm I

872
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: can't hold it in. My lips started quivering and I

873
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna cry, and I didn't want anyone

874
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: to see, so I was like, can I go to

875
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: the bathroom for a second. And they knew I was

876
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: gonna go cry and that I was just trying to

877
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: be tough. So I went to the bathroom, and then

878
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: they sent somebody else in the bathroom with me, because

879
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you sign in the contract. If you go into the bathroom,

880
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: the cameras can't follow you, but if another girl is

881
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: in there with you, then you can the cameras can

882
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: come in. So they sent Megan in there with me,

883
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: and she's like, are you okay? And I was hysterically bawling,

884
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: like couldn't catch my breath, and the camera burst in.

885
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: I fingered the camera, give the middle finger, pushed it.

886
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: I ran out of back door and I just booked

887
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: it down the back alley and all these camera guys

888
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: start chasing me, and I made a quick left turn

889
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: and then another quick left turn and I just walked

890
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: back into the Rose like or the group date, pretending

891
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: like nothing happened. And I just sat down, was like,

892
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: did you feel like you look like you're a card? Yeah?

893
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: And then they called me and they're like, okay, let

894
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: we need you for an interview, and then they made

895
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: me saw But anyways, Martine, I think was the camera guy.

896
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: He looks at me and goes, Caitlin, you're on a

897
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: reality show. You can cry on camera. You can't run

898
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: away from me, like we'll find you. And you guys

899
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: out there just letting you know that, like the sound

900
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: and the camera guys are not supposed to interact with

901
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: us at all. So when you make the camera and

902
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the sound guys laugh in an interview, you feel so accomplished.

903
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh I always I that was my goal. In every interview,

904
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, I better see that guy's shoulder shakes, like

905
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: the camera better bounce up and down on his shoulder

906
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: because he's laughing so hard at what comes out of

907
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: my mouth. Absolutely, it was my goal. Our season was

908
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: the best. And I'm not just saying that it's real.

909
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm actually serious when I look back, and obviously we

910
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: were there so we know, but I think we had

911
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: so much fun and it was like a good time

912
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: in that show, like where the show was at, you know,

913
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: and and where we were and the no social media,

914
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: like it was just a good time to be on

915
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: the show. It was so so good. You talked about

916
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: taking tequila shots right there, and now I have to

917
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: ask how much of your back or experience do you

918
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: feel like you were tipsy to say the least. Okay, fine,

919
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I basically drank through everything because it

920
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: was just so available in that time. How do you

921
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: think you would have been on Today's Bachelor, where there

922
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: is a drink limit, a free fill? Yes please? Um,

923
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: I think I don't know, Like I I can handle

924
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: my alcohol though, like I I don't know if that's

925
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: really something to brag about, but I just I don't know.

926
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: I grew up in a really small town where like

927
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: I remember having my first cooler when I was like twelve,

928
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: which is really embarrassing. Like I hid behind a hill

929
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: and tried to have like my first drink at twelve

930
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: and then I've just been building up my liver since

931
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: and so I feel like it was really my time

932
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: to shine on the Bachelor and like drink through everything

933
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: and be Okay, I'm joking. People don't think I'm an alcoholic.

934
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm not, but like it's I don't know, I just

935
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I casually could drink through the whole

936
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: day and it just kind of like relaxed me. I

937
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: slept bed or at night. Probably not, but it felt

938
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: that way, and it just helps you get through things.

939
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: So how many times do you think that you're on

940
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: the show and you're like, oh, probably at a not

941
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: so good level right now. Yeah. There was a few

942
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: times where I was actually really upset with myself the

943
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: next day because I was like, I don't remember what happened.

944
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: I had to redo a rose ceremony one time on

945
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: a group date, and they had to fill you had

946
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: to redo a rose ceremony group dates. It was just

947
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: like one of the very last group dates. So so

948
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: one it was an actual rose ceremony where all the

949
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: guys were standing up there and it was in um

950
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: where were we, uh Texas, Texas and I remember going

951
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: up and I was like, okay, so this week you

952
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: guys was like so fun, so hard, but so fun.

953
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: And then I blanked on my whole speech and then

954
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I just started winging it and they're like, oh, we're

955
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: having in trouble. We're having trouble with your mike, and

956
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: so they didn't want the guys all know. I was

957
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: just hammered. So they came and they pulled me there

958
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: like you gotta pull it together. So how long did

959
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: they give you? About twenty minutes to regroup? And I

960
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: pulled it together, but I still I remember watching that

961
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: road ceremony back and be like gosh, Caitlin. And then

962
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: another time I it was like, um, it was one

963
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: of the ones where I had to hand out the

964
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: group date rows and I had to redo it because

965
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: I was sloppy, and I just said, like Clint, what

966
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: the hell is wrong with you tonight? Like no, I'm

967
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: not putting up with that. I'm just giving it to Sean,

968
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: like we all know, I'm gonna give it to him.

969
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 1: And then they were like, so I had to redo

970
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: it and they had to for camera purposes. They had

971
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: to sit producers in around like they were the guys,

972
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: so that I was making eye contact in certain places

973
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: and it looked like I was actually doing the right

974
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: thing and like do a whole shield, and no other

975
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: guys were even there. No guys were even there. They

976
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: were just yeah, okay. So just for you guys out there,

977
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: sorry I keep interrupting. I need, I need to give

978
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: you little things. We don't often do camera trinks on

979
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I was on a Millionaire Matchmaker. It was

980
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: it was called a million Dollar Matchmaker when it was

981
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: on WE It was a mistake, but it was the

982
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: only reality TV program besides Happily ever After that I

983
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: participated in, and it was soft scripted, that's what they

984
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: like to call it. And it was also just super

985
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: stage where I had to do like every little movement

986
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: multiple times. Just you guys need to know. The Bachelor

987
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: is not like that. So just because Caitlin said she red,

988
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: she redid a couple of scenes, that is not everything

989
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: to do with me drinking. She was because she was

990
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: drunk that they and that was the only I That

991
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: was the only time I had to redo something like that.

992
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: Other time they just were like, oh, you got my

993
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: issue that I went back and did it again. But that, yeah,

994
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: that was just and I got in trouble for it too,

995
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: like they were like, you can't do that. Fair, fair, fair,

996
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: we need to put a limit on Caitlin. She needs

997
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: to drinks. Well I'm like, you can't just throw out

998
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: like here I am breaking about how I can handle alcohol,

999
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah to redo rose ceremony. But like

1000
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: they you know, they're just at that point in the show,

1001
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: alcohol was just They weren't shoving it down your throats

1002
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: by any means. It was always up to you. But

1003
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: it was very available, is what I like to say.

1004
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: There's such a misconception that people are just so drunk

1005
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: on the show, but absolutely not, no, no, no, And

1006
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: and they do take like they will watch out for you.

1007
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: But I was just kind of the silent thunder where

1008
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: you thought I was fine until I was and then

1009
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, there's nothing we can do now, but

1010
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: they do watch. And now I do think that to

1011
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: drink limit is it's good because let's be real, if

1012
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: you have to an hour still, yeah, that's a lot.

1013
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: They did that at the reunion and I was like, okay, okay,

1014
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: that's fine, Yeah, that's fine. You can't get a good

1015
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: buzz off. You really can, Um, I couldn't think of

1016
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: a better time for you to plug your new wine label.

1017
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: What a transition, You're good you Yeah, It's probably the

1018
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: thing I'm the most excited about. I think after the show.

1019
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: I've always had an idea, but I really wanted to

1020
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: gain my followers trust, and I think coming right off

1021
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: the show, you know, people are like, oh, what are

1022
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: you just gonna start selling us stuff? And although I

1023
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: still did, I tried to really pick and choose what

1024
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: I was putting out there on Instagram because I I

1025
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: thought about the longevity of of you know, having a platform.

1026
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm gonna turn down a lot

1027
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of money right now just to be able to later

1028
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: like show show them that I care about what I'm promoting.

1029
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: I believe in what I'm promoting, and then I'll be

1030
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: able to do bigger things down the road. And so

1031
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: I always wanted to do something with wine, just because

1032
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: I've always had a love for wine, and Um, I

1033
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: used to work in the restaurant industry. I used to

1034
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: teach um all the servers about the wine on our menu.

1035
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: We would do wine courses with Smalley's just to like

1036
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: learn more. And I just have always been kind of

1037
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: passionate about learning and drinking it, and so yeah, now

1038
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: it just kind of was the right timing for me.

1039
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, you know, you just gotta

1040
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: jump on this and do it, because it's been four

1041
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: years since I've been off the show. I'm ready to

1042
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: to you know. I saw the success with my scrun

1043
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Cheese and how there's so many like women just come

1044
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: together through the craziest things, you know, like us, and

1045
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: you know, we come together through liking the same guy.

1046
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: We women can just have this weird you know, I

1047
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: don't know duality of it. I can be angry at you,

1048
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: but then we'll find a way to come together through it,

1049
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: you know. And and I find that with the scrun Cheese,

1050
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: and I just saw like that it was more than

1051
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: a product. At the end of the day, all these

1052
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: women were like, we felt like they were in the

1053
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: Scrunchy gang, and they were like switching and swapping with

1054
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: each other and talking about it, and they all made

1055
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: new friends. And then they come to the live podcast

1056
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: and they came by themselves because they knew they'd meet

1057
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: other vinyls there and just like hang out as a group,

1058
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: and I just want the same thing for the wine.

1059
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: I just want these women to come together over the wine,

1060
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like they're part of the Spade and

1061
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Sparrows gang and it's just a community. At the end

1062
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: of the day. It's so fun. What types of wine

1063
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: do we have? So I've got a cabs have uh, Pinot, grigio,

1064
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: and rose, so one of each, one of each. And

1065
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm I know I'm biased, but I have tasted many

1066
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: wines to figure out the one that I wanted. Uh,

1067
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: And I am obsessed with the rose. I'm obsessed with

1068
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 1: all of them. But the rose is the best rose

1069
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life. Yeah, I don't want

1070
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: to describe it. Well, it's I don't like anything sweet,

1071
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: so it's not sweet at all. It's more dry. But

1072
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: it's also like it's the I call it a summer sipper,

1073
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: but I probably will drink it year round. It's just

1074
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: like the perfect patio drink. But rose is also a

1075
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: trend right now, Like I swear it's like trendy. It's like,

1076
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, when Brussels sprouts came in, Like Brussels Brussels

1077
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: sprouts is a thing. When I moved to l a

1078
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: because never on the East Coast was I ever offered

1079
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Brussels sprouts or was it on a menu, was one

1080
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: of those your parents forced you to eat? Like nobody

1081
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: liked Brussels sprouts. And I feel like rose is like

1082
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: like it's just trendy to drink rose, and it used

1083
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: to be a summer thing, but now it's it's year round,

1084
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it'll I think everybody will

1085
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's like, you know, some people like really

1086
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: sweet wine, some people like really dry wine. I just

1087
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: feel like everybody is going to love this rose. They're

1088
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: gonna love all of it, but the rose's bomb. Okay, Well,

1089
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: at this point, I've done a really good job like

1090
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: trying to transition easily into subjects. But now I'm looking

1091
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: at my list of questions and I'm like, okay, I'm

1092
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: just gonna have to be random. Now I'm the most

1093
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: random on my podcast. There's no transition. I'm like, I'm

1094
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: literally talking about one thing and then I'm just like

1095
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: like a squirrel, and I think of something else, and

1096
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: then I jumped to that and then they're like, you

1097
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: want to circle back to what I'm actually here for,

1098
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, right, right, right, So you're

1099
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: you've been very good Ashley, Okay, great, thank you? Does

1100
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: the so here we go random question time? Guys, We're

1101
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: gonna have a fun random question time and then there's

1102
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: like a serious random question we're gonna go into. I

1103
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: love both great. Does the end of Instagram scare you?

1104
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Because not only do you make money off sponsorships on Instagram,

1105
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: but also you promote your podcasts and your scrunches and

1106
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: your wine through it. So of course I feel like

1107
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: there's all there's there's gotta be a new thing and

1108
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: it's gotta be up and running any second. I know.

1109
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: I think about this daily. But okay, that's a great question. Uh. Yes,

1110
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of the end of Instagram. I think about

1111
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: all the time. How long Facebook has been a thing though,

1112
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: And I don't think Instagram will go away, but there

1113
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: will always be something new and I hope to use

1114
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: the Instagram platform to build whatever is the next thing

1115
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: that's coming. But I just feel like I've I've built

1116
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: like a solid community that I I don't think it

1117
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: would ruin me, but it definitely would be a bump

1118
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: in the road for career wise. Yeah, On the same note,

1119
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: do you get threatened by up and coming girls uh

1120
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: and the fact that they can steal business from you? Um?

1121
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean I'll think about it, but when I really

1122
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: think about it, I don't feel threatened because I I

1123
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: just feel like I've already built my what I what

1124
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: I love to do, and I already have my supporters,

1125
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, I've never seen such

1126
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: passionate people in my life as the people that are.

1127
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: You know. I was at the Boston Live podcast and

1128
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, wow, this room is packed like

1129
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: over people and they were just ferocious fans. Yeah. I

1130
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: just feel like it's just it really is, like I

1131
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: call it a family at this point. So I don't

1132
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: really get threatened, um, because I'll always just do my

1133
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: own thing, and I just feel like I'm you don't

1134
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: think somebody's going to go ahead and do what you

1135
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: do better because it's really based on your personality. Yeah. Like,

1136
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's only one Caitlin Bristow out there,

1137
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: And maybe that's cocky to say, but I just feel

1138
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: like that's it's it's who I am, and I just

1139
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: feel like I've I don't know, no, I love that

1140
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: you say cocky things sometimes because that's just how we feel. Yeah,

1141
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: it's how I feel, and I almost I get excited

1142
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: when um upcoming girls like Hannah By. I think she's

1143
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit like myself with you

1144
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: mixed with Emily. Yeah, she'll be a mix. And I

1145
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: could take that as being threatening, but I'm going to

1146
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: use it to my advantage and like talk to her

1147
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: and have her on the podcast, and I want to

1148
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: I want to champion the other girls that come into

1149
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: the to the show. And I think that's actually taken

1150
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: me a little bit of time. Like I think three

1151
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: years ago I would have been threatened, but I think

1152
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: I'm just past. But you just you have your own

1153
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: solid brand. Yeah, I think it's been a good place.

1154
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: You sound like you are. How do you feel like

1155
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: you aren't right now versus where you were in this

1156
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: time last year. Yeah, it's completely completely different. I was.

1157
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I always compare it to when I was in my

1158
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: last relationship before Sean. I started to lose myself at

1159
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: the end and I didn't know who I was and

1160
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: I saw myself going in that same direction at the

1161
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: this time last year, and I remember thinking, do not

1162
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: get to that low place again because of somebody not

1163
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: loving you the way that you know you deserve to

1164
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: be loved. Do not let yourself go there, be stronger

1165
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: than that. And I just I remember being very close

1166
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: to getting to that low point of losing myself again

1167
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: and needing to do something about it. And I was,

1168
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: I was. I was really unhappy and lost and confused

1169
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: why somebody couldn't love me the way I thought I

1170
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: should be loved. And it just I I never felt

1171
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: safe in that relationship. Um, I think that was because

1172
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: of the show and that I obviously did something that

1173
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: had hurt somebody, and uh, he could never get past that.

1174
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: So to me, it was like I never felt safe.

1175
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: I was always like he could leave me. He's not happy,

1176
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: he doesn't like he fully let himself surrender and be

1177
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: in love with me. He's just, you know, hurt, And

1178
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: so I just never felt safe. And now compared to

1179
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: the last year, I just feel like I'm like I'm

1180
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: established career wise as a person. I'm happy and the

1181
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: happiest with myself I've ever been. And I also have

1182
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: somebody that I feel more than safe with. Do you

1183
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: feel like if you met Sean off the show you

1184
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: guys would have had a more promising feature. At the

1185
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just don't think we were

1186
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: meant to be. I think we both wanted it to

1187
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: be meant to be, but it just wasn't were we

1188
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: we I'm the kind of person that I am. I

1189
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: really give my whole heart to somebody, and I'm very

1190
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 1: vulnerable and I expect the same back. And I think

1191
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: we're just two people that love differently and don't and

1192
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't a match. It just wasn't a match.

1193
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Like we you can look back on all of our

1194
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: times Rick and Donna, like all of our funny things

1195
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: we did. It was more like we had a solid friendship,

1196
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: but but the love part of it just wasn't what

1197
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: it needed to be. You just weren't compatible love wise. No,

1198
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: it seems like sparks on TV, and it was, and

1199
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: it was, And I just think I think we both

1200
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: wanted it so bad from from that moment. But as

1201
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: much time that went on, I think we just kept

1202
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: paying onto that fantasy of when we met, and it

1203
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: just kept we just kept growing further apart. To be honest,

1204
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: we were just on very different pages. So I I

1205
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: do think that the show definitely didn't help our cause,

1206
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we're just not compatible.

1207
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: At the end of a day, even if you didn't

1208
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: have like that rift that the cause that the show caused,

1209
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: you still would have found out your incompatibility as far

1210
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: as love languages and stuff. Exactly exactly how did you

1211
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: feel when you found out that Crys Souls was part

1212
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: of that accident. Honestly, I felt sick, like I felt

1213
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: sick to my stomach, and I felt sad for so

1214
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: many people, and I just said, I, I don't know.

1215
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: I was like in shock, I think when I first

1216
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: heard about it, and I just I just felt bad

1217
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: for everybody. I think I only asked this because I

1218
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: feel like everybody who knew Chris felt the exact same way.

1219
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: We're all like going about our thing around the country

1220
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: that day, and we were all having this indescribable weirdness

1221
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: and ache inside us. Yeah, that is And it really

1222
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: it was tough because you know, there's when you're in

1223
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: the media, people want to jump on any stories. So

1224
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: then it's like people are reaching out, like magazines and

1225
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: just media that want to know how we feel about it.

1226
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to comment. No, I didn't comment.

1227
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I didn't comment out in my life. Yes, I was like,

1228
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a knee on this one because yeah,

1229
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: I just I'm not I don't know details, I don't

1230
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: know what like. Yeah, I just it was just that

1231
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: was a that was a tough, weird day. You talk

1232
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: about thinking that you were going to be single for

1233
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: years after breaking up with Sean, and that you were

1234
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: going to be totally okay with that. But I know

1235
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: that you want kids and you're still young. Obviously your

1236
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: thirty four see the wine glass, your thirty fourth birthday

1237
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: is approaching this summer. So if you're going to be

1238
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: single for another five years, you would have you would

1239
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: have probably used those frozen eggs that you frozen a

1240
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, correct. I think that was part

1241
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: of my like confidence in being alone. I was like,

1242
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: you know what, it frozen my eggs. I'm cool. Like,

1243
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: I just to me, my mom is sixties six sixty,

1244
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and I'm like, no, wait, she seems

1245
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: like she's still in her forties. And I just her

1246
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: energy is the same as my energy. And I just

1247
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: don't like to put too much thought on my age

1248
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: and when I should have babies and and I don't

1249
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: like that whole biological clock is t I mean, I

1250
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: hate to bring up the biological clock because I've gotten

1251
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: in the past. Do you feel that, No, I mean

1252
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: I definitely considered freezing my eggs. Jared came around and

1253
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: we got engaged at the prime time because I was

1254
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: going to do it as a thirtieth birthday present to myself. Yeah,

1255
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: but then but then Jared express his feelings just months

1256
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: before that, and I was like, good to go, or

1257
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: at least, you know, sometimes I tell I'm like, Jared,

1258
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: can we freeze your sperm? Because I always get worried about,

1259
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: like if he gets in an accident. And I know

1260
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: this is crazy, but this is my wordy stuff that

1261
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: if if he were to get an accident, I would

1262
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: still want to have as kids and that like all emotional,

1263
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm like, why just why just freeze my eggs?

1264
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 1: Why can't we freeze your sperm? Because I still would

1265
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: want I wouldn't want to be with anybody else, especially

1266
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: not in like my thirties. I surprisingly got a lot

1267
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: of um a lot of flak for freezing my eggs

1268
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: and being so open about it. Why because I think

1269
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: women who had a tough time getting pregnant we're a

1270
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: little bit sensitive that I was just celebrating freezing my

1271
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: eggs and how easy it was for me, which I understand,

1272
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I'm like, I'm

1273
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: doing it to like what if I can't have children

1274
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: down the road, or what if something happens to me

1275
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: and I because I froze my eggs, I have that

1276
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want that opportunity to And I think people

1277
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: just didn't really have the knowledge that they do now

1278
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: about freezing your eggs. So but yeah, it's I'm just

1279
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm totally okay on my own, Like I'm I just

1280
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: I actually love being alone. Um So, what I was

1281
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: just looking for was like, if somebody adds value to

1282
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: my life like Jason does. I was so open to it,

1283
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: but I just didn't think i'd find it that quickly.

1284
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like when you're doing your own thing,

1285
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: you're killing it and you feel like you could be

1286
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: on your own forever. Is usually when the guy comes around.

1287
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, that is exactly And I think I'm like,

1288
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: of course, you just like this happened so quickly, because

1289
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm in the right place for it, and so is he.

1290
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's thirty, he's established, he's done so much

1291
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: with his education and career, and he's just such a

1292
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: he's just such a good guy. He's so solid. He's

1293
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: just a solid human. Little Jason's not He's not little now,

1294
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: He's a big Jason. You're living in Nashville now, and

1295
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: you're living in Nashville because that's where Sean lives, and

1296
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you have a beautiful house that you own. So how

1297
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: long do you see yourself living in Nashville, especially if

1298
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: Jason has a solid job that he doesn't necessarily want

1299
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: to leave in uh Cattle. Yeah, I don't really know.

1300
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of going with the flow right now.

1301
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: I bought the house and and I have a lot

1302
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: of plans with renovating it, Like I want to redo

1303
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: the kitchen. I want to I'm actually doing a deal

1304
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: with Wayfair. We're going to partner and decorate some of

1305
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: the rooms and like redo it the way I want,

1306
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Like I already made it my dream home. Downstairs, I

1307
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: still have a few more rooms to decorate. God, I

1308
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: sound like that. I still got a few more rooms.

1309
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: I live on h g TV. This is when I

1310
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: knew I was thirty. I was like, I'm putting on

1311
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: vay too much. But that's the thing. I like, you

1312
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: still love going out and do. And then all of

1313
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: a sudden one day I was just like so excited

1314
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: about cabinets and I don't know what, like, I love cabinets.

1315
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: I love cabinets so much. Only white and gray ones, though, yeah,

1316
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: of course, of course is there any other kind? And

1317
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: so I have lots of plans to redo the house

1318
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: and and as of right now, I mean, we definitely

1319
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: talk about the future, but we're just going with the flow,

1320
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, and we're just we'll figure it out. I

1321
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: don't know where we'll be. And if you do get married,

1322
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: you'll probably a loope. Probably that sounds something I would do,

1323
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 1: like Vegas did. Did Jonas brother actually marry her? Well,

1324
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: you're talking to the right I know, I just thought

1325
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: of that. So what happened was there have they have

1326
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: a planned wedding, a big, huge plan wedding in France

1327
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: sometime over the summer, but they needed to get their

1328
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: American marriage license before they got married in France. So

1329
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: they thought we're in Vegas were surrounded by friends and

1330
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: family as mine as we'll do it now. So it

1331
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: made total sense. I might do that because I need

1332
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: a green cardio. This Canadian needs to stay in the States.

1333
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: I think, go find a way. Let's talk about Dancing

1334
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 1: with the Stars, because you were the woman of all

1335
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: the women who should do Dancing with the Stars. But

1336
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: it seems like bachelors get to do Dancing with the Stars.

1337
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 1: But there's only been one bachelorette who has been able

1338
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: to do it, Trista Trista Denis. But except she was

1339
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 1: she was out of her contract, so she I wasn't

1340
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: out of my contract, so they had the power to

1341
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: tell me no. They couldn't tell her no because she

1342
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: was out of the contract. It was ABC, like I

1343
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: think it was the first It was the very first

1344
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: season of Dancing with the Stars, so it was kind

1345
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: of like kept in the family and oh Bay, it

1346
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: was the first season of Dating the Stars, which was

1347
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: like two six or something. Yes, so then she but

1348
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: she was sent home first and then Melissa Ryecroft did it.

1349
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: But you know, they kind of needed needed to throw

1350
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: her a bone after what Jason together, like, you know what,

1351
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: we're going to get the stars, but not the Bachelor,

1352
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: I gig, but that's kind of like in turn what

1353
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: she preferred, right exactly. So yeah, when it came to

1354
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a contract signed for Dancing with

1355
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: the Stars and and they were going to announce me

1356
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: on Good Morning America and then last second I was

1357
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: told no, you cannot do it. Your passion should be

1358
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: Sean and I don't. He said, we know who he is.

1359
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: He said, I am sick of people coming off of

1360
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: my show and wanting fame, uh, instead of focusing on

1361
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: the relationship. And I was like, oh, why not do

1362
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: that to the Bachelor's It doesn't make any sense. That's

1363
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing that frustrates me, is that that

1364
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. And I said, well, dancing is a

1365
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: passion of mine, Like I grew up dancing and I've

1366
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: never done ballroom dancing, but I love dancing, and he goes, well,

1367
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: Sean should be your passion, and I was like, you're

1368
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: telling me I can't have two passions in life. That

1369
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. So yeah, I was quite frustrated.

1370
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's what almost it's like three and a

1371
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: half years later, and I'm it's still boils my blood well,

1372
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: not because I didn't get on Dancing with the Stars.

1373
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: Looking back, I think that would have been bad timing

1374
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: for me, and I'm gladship right, so I'm looking back,

1375
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't. But it's the it's the principle

1376
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: that that I feel like it was because I was

1377
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 1: a bachelor. And and then he said, you know, we'll

1378
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: never have somebody from the show do Dancing with the

1379
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Stars again, and Nick and Crystals Crystal right after me.

1380
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, come on, like at least convinced

1381
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: me a little bit that you meant what you said. Yeah,

1382
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: is that the falling out that you kind of have

1383
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: with the franchise because there was a while there that

1384
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: you didn't feel like you look at them as friends? Yeah?

1385
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know what, deep down, I think a

1386
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: few things. I accidentally spoiled my season on snapchat. Oh

1387
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: my goodness. Uh. That was the one thing that was

1388
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: the first question I had for you, knowing that we

1389
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: were going to do this today. But I didn't write

1390
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: in my notes. I need to know the reaction that

1391
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: production had when that happened. And you're a reaction because

1392
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: your heart you must have just been going. I can't

1393
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: even imagine almost throw up. I can't believe you didn't.

1394
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: The frenzy that was going on your body, it was terrible.

1395
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: So I think they knew that. I was kind of

1396
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: upset with how they're portraying me a little bit, and

1397
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: so um the spoilers that were out there were that

1398
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: I picked nobody, and can I tell you when Jared

1399
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: arrived to Paradise, not only was he messed up because

1400
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: they sent a camera crew to his house because he

1401
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: thought that you were going to ask him back but

1402
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: they but he also thought that you chose no one, right,

1403
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: So I think in the back of his mind he

1404
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: was like, there's still a chance. Yeah, And I was like, yo, boy, yeah,

1405
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: You're like, I know the real deal. I know the scoop.

1406
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: So I I think they thought I did the snapchat

1407
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: on purpose. I think they thought Caitlin so rebellious that

1408
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: she meant to spoil it to save her relationship with

1409
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: Sean or something like that. I think they think I

1410
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: did it on purpose, which I of course did not.

1411
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: That's a five million dollar contract. I just blew. Of

1412
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: course I didn't do it on purpose. I felt terrible.

1413
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: I thought Sean did it. I yelled at him, thinking

1414
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: he did it. Then I found out it was me.

1415
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: I immediately deleted it, but it had already been happy.

1416
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. It was just spread like wildfire, and I

1417
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: was like, and I just started hysterically bawling. I almost

1418
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: threw up. We were just in so much heat that

1419
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: we actually called Ben, who I hadn't talked to since

1420
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: I broke up with him. Don't you always just called

1421
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 1: Ben in a crisis? Is there really anybody else you

1422
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: think to call? You? All of us? Even in this

1423
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: time when he's dealing with like Sean as his as

1424
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: his friend me, I still called them. But he he

1425
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: was going to fly down and jump in bed with

1426
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: me too, just to do another snapchat, just to be like,

1427
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: oh look, I'm in bed with him, to like, could

1428
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: you imagine if he had flown down to do that?

1429
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: How cute? I know he was probably like you, but yeah,

1430
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: so I think they were like, yeah, yeah, they were

1431
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: upset with me about the snapchat and the production was

1432
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they were filming Paradise and they were getting

1433
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: terrible cell service and they had to stay up through

1434
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: the night to have meetings to try and figure out

1435
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: what to do. And I think from that into you know,

1436
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: they were bitter, and they knew I was bitter. And

1437
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Flice ever wanted me to be the bachelorette,

1438
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't. I really don't think he did.

1439
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta throw it in there. Do you think

1440
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 1: the poll was legit, the one between you and and Britt?

1441
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: Do you think that the guys truly voted for you?

1442
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: Because I truly did. The guys voted for you too.

1443
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: But I also think that production knew that you would

1444
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: carry the season better than and you give more drama

1445
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: and juice. Yeah, So I think that they were going

1446
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: to go with you either way. Do you think that

1447
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: now looking back? Yes, because they already had all the

1448
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: dates set up and it was like rap battles and

1449
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: like certain things that in comedy dates, like certain things

1450
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: that I'm like, those are those are clearly for me.

1451
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: And I also think the guys, the majority of the

1452
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: guys were my kind of guys over you know, the

1453
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: kind of guys that they would put on a season

1454
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: for Britt. So I think Jared was cast it for Britt.

1455
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: He was, and he and he voted for her. Yeah,

1456
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: And I'm not mad that's his stereotypical type. That was

1457
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: the type that he thought he had before he met you.

1458
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: And yeah, so you know what, Jared, give what the

1459
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: Times bro, thank you for coming around to some real women. No,

1460
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but yeah, it's I think it was

1461
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: just like a combination of a budget, bunch of things

1462
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: that happened. I don't think Lice wanted me to be

1463
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: the bachelorette, so I think he may be thought like, well,

1464
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,959
Speaker 1: I have control to say no, she's still under contract.

1465
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: And then it was just I don't think he thought

1466
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: i'd call him out for it either. It was on

1467
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: Twitter one day. I definitely went after him, but I

1468
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: was mad. I'm like, what, it doesn't make any sense

1469
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: that Nick could go and be the Beyond Dancing with

1470
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: the Stars after being the Bachelor. After what he said

1471
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. This

1472
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: must be sexism. So that's when you just went off.

1473
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: Was when Nick was cast that I lost this. I

1474
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: was like, screw this, I'm not staying silent. I'm out

1475
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: of contract, and I went off. Yeah, and despite all this,

1476
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: you still have a rose tattoo on your arm. Isn't

1477
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: that funny? I actually came around because I realized close

1478
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: to the end of my relationship with Sean, that I

1479
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: wasn't bitter at the show, that I was grateful actually

1480
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: for it, and that I didn't have to be angry

1481
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: at everybody. Everybody is just doing their job. It set

1482
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: me up for a lot of success and opened a

1483
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of doors, and I was sick of being bitter

1484
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: about it, and I wanted to remind myself daily of

1485
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: that pivotal time in my life and that it's nothing

1486
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: to be upset about are bitter about that it was

1487
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: such a cool opportunity, And not only did like I

1488
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: could have been really upset and hurt and gone hid

1489
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: in a corner because of the slut shaming and all

1490
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: the hate I got, but I channeled it into a

1491
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: really positive place for women. And at the end of

1492
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: the day, I just felt like it was such a

1493
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: It was such a good experience in my life that

1494
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: led me to so many amazing things that I needed

1495
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: to remember it as a positive And I'm like, what

1496
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: better way than to tattoo it on your body. I

1497
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: used to be like, I never want to see a

1498
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: rose again for as long as I live, and I'm

1499
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: like most beautiful flower. I do feel like we all

1500
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,440
Speaker 1: go through those phases where we feel a little restricted,

1501
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: but then at the end of it, like I was

1502
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: watching your reunion show and just being like, Jared aren't

1503
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: too thankful, and he is like, it's it really is

1504
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: just a really special thing, and that and that, I

1505
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: just feel like I'm back in ABC's good books. They're

1506
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 1: back in my good books. Were in a good place,

1507
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's I think I think that

1508
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with me being in a

1509
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: better place too. Though. Well, I'm super proud of you

1510
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: for everything that you've done with being the Bachelorette. You

1511
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: not only you didn't stop once the show was over,

1512
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: you really expanded upon the opportunities that were given to

1513
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: you to the utmost. And I would like to end

1514
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: this podcast on this beautiful note. However, we cannot. We

1515
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: have to commemorate my my podcast co host, Ben Higgins,

1516
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: so we will do that right after this break. We're

1517
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: back with Caitlin and we're gonna we're gonna talk about

1518
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: my lovely co host, Ben, who could not be here

1519
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: because he was traveling so much this week. But what

1520
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: was your first impression of Ben and when did you

1521
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: think Damn, I like this guy. Oh that's a good question. Uh,

1522
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll never forget. On night one, he

1523
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: looked at me and he said, Caitlin, you're our bachelorette.

1524
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: You won by a long shot. And I was like, okay,

1525
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: who's this guy and he looked yeah, he looked me

1526
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: in the eyes and pumped my tires and I was like,

1527
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy. So it was night

1528
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: one actually, and then down the road, I remember having

1529
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: this conversation with him and going I thought he voted

1530
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: for Britt because he seemed like Britt. Yeah, he totally

1531
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: seemed like a brit guy. So I asked him and

1532
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: he just started laughing and I was like what. He goes,

1533
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: do you actually think I didn't vote for you? And

1534
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I didn't know. I don't care

1535
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: if you didn't, Like how do you know? You don't

1536
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: know us yet? And he's like, Caitlin, you like meant it?

1537
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: He was like yeah, he was like of course I voted,

1538
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: but he probably was like rubbing my shoulder and I

1539
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh. And then I and then

1540
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: I was like what a sweetheart. And then uh, when

1541
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: I broke out of my hotel room and went down

1542
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: and snuck out with no cameras and found his hotel room.

1543
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: I saw him, yeah, but I saw him in the

1544
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: backwards hat, and I was like, oh, damn me talk

1545
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: the backwards hat does good things too. That yeah, and

1546
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: I thought he needs one, but it does good things.

1547
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: And then and then by the end, I was just

1548
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: like we, I mean, Ben and I would have never worked,

1549
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: but I just saw him. I was like, I think,

1550
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: I think I want that guy in my life, but

1551
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: not like that. I feel like the show actually holds

1552
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: guys a lot, holds them back because if we look

1553
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,879
Speaker 1: at their their gross like pictures, they're they're ABC pictures,

1554
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: the first releases of that terrible, always gross because they

1555
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: think they should like wear something cool or stylish or formal,

1556
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: and most guys look best with a backwards hat and

1557
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: a T shirt or sweash it on. Yes. I always

1558
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: said that, I'm like, you need to just I wanted

1559
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: to come out of the limit for Crystal Season in

1560
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: a backwards hat myself and that would have worked for

1561
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: you and Converse sneakers because I was like, wait, that's

1562
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: how I dress. I don't want to be in a

1563
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: little cocktail dress, like I want to come out and

1564
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: just like barely any makeup and backwards had be like up.

1565
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean that when I don't think that's what they

1566
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: go for, but that I always said that. I'm like,

1567
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: I wish they showed all the guys in just a

1568
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: backwards hat and like casual gear because that's the hottest.

1569
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: That is absolutely the hottest. Sorry, Jason, I know you

1570
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: always wear blazers. Yeah, you know what, that's very ironic

1571
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: considering Jason just is the most naturally dressed up of

1572
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: them all. When Jason puts on a backwards and a

1573
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: casual and doesn't know that, I'm like, no, no, no,

1574
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't bug me. Are you kidding me? Doesn't bug

1575
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: me at all? But you can date them for a

1576
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: little long and send him back if you want to.

1577
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: Do you respect that Jared looks hot a backwards hat? Yes? Yeah,

1578
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: I totally think Jared looks hot a backwards hat. That's

1579
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: like on minerals. And they're like telling me looks sexy

1580
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: with this hair push back, but that I totally just

1581
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: backwards hats do weird things for me and I When

1582
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: Jason put it on, literally, I can't keep my hands

1583
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: off of them sneaking of can't take your hands off Jason.

1584
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: You've recently said that the first data, the first time

1585
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: you got aids man, Ye okay, that all you're gonna

1586
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna quote me that all you needed was a

1587
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: good dry hump, which I'm gonna I'm gonna be very

1588
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: Ashley I, very anti Ashley I and and very anti

1589
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: almost famous right now and say all a girl really

1590
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: needs is a good joy hump. Thank you. Apparently that

1591
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: was t m I for people. But let me tell you,

1592
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: it's so funny because headlines, can you know, that's clickbait?

1593
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: So and I do it too. If I have a

1594
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: guest on my but you know, and they give me

1595
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: something good, I'm going to use it as clickbait. That's

1596
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: just the biz. Uh. So it's so interesting because I

1597
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: the amount of things media could pull from my podcast

1598
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: and put in headlines to make me look disgusting. Not

1599
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: that I think dry humping is disgusting again, all for it,

1600
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 1: but like they could take anything out of context. Right,

1601
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 1: So that headline and when that came out about my

1602
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: first took up with Jason, I'm like, really, like I've

1603
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: said so much worse on my podcast, and that needs

1604
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: to be your headline, Like his family is going to

1605
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: see that thing, and they didn't inject my humor where

1606
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: I do. On my podcast, I always do confessions. So

1607
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: it's like my confession is something really embarrassing or really

1608
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: funny or something that like I'm like really trusting in

1609
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: my listeners to not tell anybody that I'm just it's

1610
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: kind of a safe place. So that in a safe

1611
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: place with like five hundred thousand listeners, should I should

1612
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: know better than that, Like I should know that anything

1613
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: I say could be in a headline. But I wasn't thinking,

1614
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, I mean, yeah, hum, so you

1615
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: said it and yeah, yeah, you know that happened, and

1616
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: you do you regret like having said that or you're

1617
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: just like, hey, guys, that's me. I don't know why

1618
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: this is a thing, because this is something that I

1619
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: would always say my audience here, stuff like this. Yeah.

1620
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: I think I don't regret it. I think it's like, well,

1621
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: we're too consenting adults have between a guy and a

1622
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: girl who really like each other, who have their clothes

1623
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: on and are fooling around. I don't think there's anything

1624
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: wrong with that I said I was on my period.

1625
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: That apparently was t M I where I'm like, it's

1626
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. This is biology. Women, mens, we have

1627
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: our menstrual cycles, and I don't think that should be

1628
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: anything to be ashamed of, and like it's a confession.

1629
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: Maybe throw that in there, you know. No, So I

1630
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: don't regret it at all. I just don't like the

1631
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: way it came out and looked really bad, like the

1632
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: amount of d M S I got of women just

1633
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 1: like disgusted with me. Yeah, which I mean I'm used to,

1634
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: but so I'll be super honest. When Jared heard that,

1635
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't disgusted by the comment, but he did feel

1636
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: sympathy for Sean. Okay, Oh I didn't look at it

1637
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: like that. Um well, yeah, I would have never ever,

1638
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: Anything I do does not I would never do it

1639
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: to hurt somebody else's feelings or see other things. But

1640
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: we all need to remember that I saw things too,

1641
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: and I saw headlines too, and I saw photos too

1642
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: before I even had anything like that with Jason. And

1643
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: people can say that, oh no, that's not true, that

1644
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: was media. I saw things too, and that was really

1645
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: soon for me and all I told myself, was, you

1646
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: know what, he he doesn't want to be with me.

1647
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 1: He is allowed to do whatever he wants with whoever

1648
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: he wants. We are not together and we've had a

1649
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: really rough go for a while, and if that's what

1650
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: he needs to do, and if that's something that makes

1651
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: him happy right now, I have no comment and nothing

1652
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: to say about it because it's not my business anymore.

1653
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: It's not my problem anymore, it's not my responsibilitynymore, and

1654
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not my business anymore. And he is more than

1655
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: welcome to do whatever he wants. And that was you know,

1656
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: I saw all the headlines. I saw photos, I know

1657
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: some someone very personally who's very close with that person

1658
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: that he had rumors about with. I know things, and

1659
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I all said was I hope he's happy. So I

1660
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 1: understand that things. It sucks to see your X in

1661
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 1: the media and it sucks to see those headlines. But

1662
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I feel like

1663
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: I've said at the end of the day times, we

1664
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: both have said it so many times, and I was

1665
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: just thinking like, oh crap, like we need to come

1666
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: up with a different expression of what we will. But

1667
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, But I do under

1668
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: but there's totally something there. There's something that a lot

1669
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: of people won't be able to understand. That it's one

1670
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 1: thing to see your ex on social media, but there's

1671
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: another thing to see like to try to prevent seeing

1672
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: them on social media, and yet the media won't let

1673
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: you not see it. Right. And when I saw those

1674
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 1: headlines with with Sean, I was like, Okay, well you know,

1675
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna unfollow this. I'm not going to go on

1676
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 1: my search page. I'm just gonna take the steps that

1677
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: I need to not see what what could hurt me?

1678
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: And I would hope that he wants me to be happy.

1679
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to him. I want him to be happy.

1680
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird world we live in and

1681
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: there's gonna be headlines and I'm not you know, I did.

1682
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that to go out there and be like,

1683
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: look Caylendraw, I alms Jason like I would have. You know,

1684
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't mean to say these things to like get

1685
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: at other people, you know me, So it's I mean,

1686
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: what do you do? What do you do? Know? When

1687
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: it comes out of your mouth, you're it's with no malice, right, Yeah,

1688
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: what do you do. Let's go back to bed. Now, Okay,

1689
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: Ben is like perceived as this wholesome boy scout boy scout,

1690
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: but I think that he has a little bit more

1691
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: of an edge and everybody thing, So tell us about

1692
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: the edge that you think you see in bed and

1693
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: and then the darkness and the sexiness and all. But

1694
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: he sells a girlfriend so well, and I have a boyfriend.

1695
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna talk about I just think, Ben,

1696
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: how hard is that to go on a show where

1697
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: millions of people are watching you and you are given

1698
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: the title the Perfect Ben, and you are you know this,

1699
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: you are it on this pedestal of the perfect person

1700
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: and that you're just this wholesome Christian. So how can

1701
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: you not, you know, try and live up to that expectation.

1702
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: And sometimes I just want him to, like, you know,

1703
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: like post a picture of him giving the middle finger

1704
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: in a backwards in and say something that he means,

1705
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: like I just want to. I just always want to

1706
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: like rough them up a little bit and be like,

1707
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: come on, Ben, because he is but I mean, I

1708
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: don't know he he does have a little edge, I know,

1709
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, he I don't know how much I can

1710
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: say the guy like, you know, he'll shoot some whiskey.

1711
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: He'll like you know, he he just needs to be

1712
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: a little more honest. What on my I don't get

1713
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: a podcast episodes. I did a drunk podcast whe where

1714
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: we're like really we wanted to feel a buzz before

1715
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: we started talking to my life Welcome to off the

1716
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: Vine and uh, I think that we should do with

1717
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: almost famous Ben and I have to whiskey and wine. Man,

1718
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he wouldn't let you air it wouldn't

1719
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 1: the next day to be like no, no no, no. He

1720
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: called and mark right here and be like okay, so

1721
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: you guys don't tell actually what I need you to

1722
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 1: edit this out and this out? Yeah exactly, my um.

1723
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: We have a couple of listener emails right now and

1724
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: I want to read them to you that they're they're

1725
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: geared to you, Caitlin. From strangers to an admirer of you.

1726
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Over the years, you have had a spectacular impact on

1727
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: my life. Your leadership, kindness, and attitude was the foundation

1728
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 1: to what allowed me to be a fuller version of myself. Caitlin,

1729
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,959
Speaker 1: your wit, charm, and energy brings you in, brings everyone

1730
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: in closer. To you. It's not a wonder why so

1731
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: many people are love and adore you. Your charisma is

1732
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: tirelessly captivating, and your personality makes you seem larger than life.

1733
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 1: In fact, I would say being around you makes life better, bigger,

1734
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: and more full of joy. I know, I'm like, you

1735
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: want these You want these listeners to go over to

1736
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: your podcast. Okay. The ups and downs of life never

1737
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: seem to derail you from being a person who loves

1738
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: well and loves intentionally. As a fan and friend, I

1739
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: learned a lot from you, Caitlin. I am so thankful

1740
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: to say that I know you, proud to that you

1741
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: are a friend of mine, and thankful that God placed

1742
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: me in a mansion in hopes of knowing you better. You, Caitlin,

1743
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: are special. You're forever fan. Ben, shut up, No I

1744
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: lied to you. It wasn't It wasn't a real fan email.

1745
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: It was your fan, Ben Higgins. She's crying, guys, she's

1746
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: welling up. I'll send that to you so you can

1747
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: read it whatever you feel. Low. You know it's crazy

1748
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: is when you were reading that, I'm like, God, that

1749
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: sounds like something Ben with like, oh what I just

1750
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: want to hug him. Now, how cute is that? What's

1751
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: the nicest thing I think anyone's ever said to me? Beauty? Yeah,

1752
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ben, I'm calling you later. How cute

1753
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: is that? Well? The one that got away, I'm just kidding.

1754
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Wow, that was that like touched my

1755
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: soul like that. I was listening and I started putting

1756
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: my head down, closing my eyes because I was listening

1757
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: to every word. I did not see that coming. What

1758
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: a plot twist, Ben Higgins, you're you know, runner or

1759
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: second up. I regret saying I need to shake him

1760
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: up and rough him up and then he needs to

1761
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: be more honest. I'm like, No, you're good, You're good.

1762
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna let Caitlin basking that and then

1763
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: we're going to wrap this podcast up with a fast

1764
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 1: round of questions for her and for me. All Right, Okay,

1765
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: we're back. Caitlin. You want to go back and forth

1766
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: with questions, so I give you one, you give me one.

1767
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Okay, We're going to start out super

1768
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: super easy. What's your favorite fast food now, especially that

1769
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: you're a vegetarian, what I know? I never thought I

1770
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 1: would be. I'm honestly, I love burger king veggie burgers.

1771
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: They have veggie burgers. It's really good. It's really good.

1772
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Is plain meat good or is it

1773
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: everything we dressed it with all the condiments. It's everything

1774
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: you dress it with. So veggie burgers with all the

1775
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: sauce and the lettuce and the tomato and the onion

1776
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: and the delicious bun. It's you don't just eat a

1777
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: burger without dressing it up. I will tell you confession time.

1778
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: This is actually confession on the Almost Nest podcast. One

1779
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: time we went over to Nick's for barbecue. He only

1780
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,759
Speaker 1: gave us burgers with meat in a bun. He didn't

1781
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: have any condiment. What kind of psychopath? I was like.

1782
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Nick, it's so cute of you to

1783
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: have a s for dinner. Is there any catchup? Yeah?

1784
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: What condiments? Ketchup? That's rude to eat a burder without condiments. Yeah,

1785
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: I shook. I also this people. I don't know why

1786
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: I get like self conscious saying this, but I really

1787
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: like the fish filet from McDonald's. Okay, Jared and his

1788
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: dad also love the fish falt. I've never had a

1789
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 1: fish filet, but I do love to put like a

1790
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Swanson something in the oven and then I wrap it

1791
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: up in a thing with tartar sauce. Please please go

1792
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: today and get a fish filet, no cheese, add shredded

1793
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: lettuce and tell me it didn't change your life. Why

1794
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: not cheese, cheese, American cheese. Fish. It doesn't make sense

1795
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to me either. I don't push fish on my fish wraps. No,

1796
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: you just don't do that. You just don't do that.

1797
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 1: But shredded lettuce, the tartar sauce, the fish. It's delicious.

1798
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: So will you eat fish? So I guess I'm a

1799
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: pescetarian because I will hear from the vegetarians to see.

1800
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I could be a pescetarian at least

1801
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: for a few months. Okay, I'm act. She also trying

1802
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: to not have dairy right now, which don't go to no,

1803
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: no no, and I can't because I'm I love eggs.

1804
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: And but I watched a documentary and it's always starts

1805
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: with a documentary. You know. My my kick for wanting

1806
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 1: to be a vegetarian was actually blackfish, which was really weird.

1807
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: But I just saw you heard about that. Yeah, but

1808
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: I saw how many emotions animals have, and I just

1809
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: applied it to all animals, not just whales, and I

1810
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you have to stop eating meat. Well,

1811
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: then I saw something on Ellen where I I so,

1812
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: she's my favorite food. And then Ellen like chirped somebody

1813
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: and was like, okay, so you will recycle to save

1814
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 1: the fish, but then you'll eat them. And I'm like,

1815
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: damn it, that's me. Ellen doesn't eat fish either, No, no, no,

1816
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: she no animal products at all. I don't know if

1817
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: fish have emotions. They don't. Curtr Cobain said in a

1818
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: song it's okay to eat fish because they don't have

1819
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: any feelings. And I will stand by that, like I'm

1820
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: talking flounder. I'm not talking free Willy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1821
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to eat a whale. Who from Bachelor

1822
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: would you hook up with if you weren't with Jared

1823
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: if Jared never existed, or who would you have a

1824
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 1: crush on? Okay, I don't have to stay hook up. Um,

1825
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Can I tell you who I think the cutest has

1826
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 1: been from past seasons? Okay, well, obviously from JoJo's season,

1827
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I thought that Wells was the cutest, which is why

1828
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 1: Dad him in Paradise. Um. From from Becca season, I

1829
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: probably would have gone with Colton, and then from we

1830
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: skipped season Rachel's season, I would have gone within who

1831
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: Dean Diana? They said Ian. Yeah, also I'm on my

1832
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 1: second and a half class. Yes, okay, then the questions

1833
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: are going to get weirder. I think that Jared knows

1834
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 1: that I think that those are all the cutest guys too.

1835
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: You're allowed to think guys are you wouldn't act on it?

1836
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: And I was making you us. I was making I

1837
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: forced you to answer that. Okay, you go, um, who

1838
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: is your guilty pleasure? Musical artists? So I truly don't

1839
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: believe in guilty leisures, but ums, just for the sake

1840
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: of using the term in its essence, you know you

1841
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: know how to answer this because my answer is Richard

1842
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Marks in like Chicago and like just all the male

1843
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: soft rock. Well here's a terra wow. Um not guilty though, yeah, um,

1844
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to answer that. I don't

1845
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: who who? Okay, So take yourself back to like high

1846
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: school college and you be your friends would be like

1847
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 1: can I see your iPod? And then you'd like to

1848
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: I was like, all ninety degrees in saying Backstreet Boys.

1849
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: That was like you didn't have any ol days on there. Um,

1850
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I really love the Beatles, but I do not that

1851
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: guilty about definitely not guilty. Alright, moving on, damn it. Sorry,

1852
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: but a disappointing answer. Um, one item of clothing or

1853
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: anything that you want to burn of Jared's. I really

1854
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: don't like this black button down of his. Okay, what

1855
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 1: a black button? Black? Very acceptable, very acceptable. It feels

1856
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: a little waiter ish for me. Okay. Yeah. It also

1857
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: like I just have to be honest, it's black on him.

1858
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: If it's not a T shirt and it's like more

1859
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: of like a collared thing, it's not as flattering. Okay,

1860
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: that's fair. Okay, that's a fair question. I made Jason

1861
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: burn burn burn and like the fireplace. Yeah, no, I

1862
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: we just threw them out. They were like these oversized

1863
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: gray sweat shorts and I mean like sweatshort, No so

1864
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: do I I mean oversized like I think they were

1865
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: Fubou brand like oversized gray sweats. And I was like

1866
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: he was wearing them. I'm like, could we burn those

1867
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: or And he was like and you just like ripped

1868
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: them off. He's like, hey, they're going in the garbage.

1869
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you. Okay, wait, here's here's a little

1870
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: bit of an off topic but on topic question. You

1871
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: know how guys are always like I like you without makeup? Yes?

1872
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: Do you think that Jason really prefers you without makeup?

1873
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Or he likes what he thinks is no makeup but

1874
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: really is a little foundation and a little mascara and

1875
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of lipliner, you know what. I love

1876
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: the I didn't try hard, but I try it hard. Look,

1877
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: and the other day I absolutely broke out in this

1878
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: hormonal actne around my mouth. You can see the like

1879
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I see a couple. Okay, So what I did was

1880
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: overloaded it with retinal and burnt the s out of

1881
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: my face. And I like, there's some sort of reaction.

1882
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 1: So now I had like red burn on and I

1883
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: was face timing him and I forgot that it was there,

1884
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: and he was like, what happened to you? And I

1885
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, and he goes, you still

1886
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: look so beautiful, and I was like I felt it,

1887
01:33:54,439 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: like exactly, I'm like that in three years. But he

1888
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: he genuinely was like, oh, I was just worried about you,

1889
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know what happened. He goes he still

1890
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: look so beautiful. I think he loves me. So I

1891
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 1: think he loves me no matter what. At first, I

1892
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: was really weird about you know. I would do the

1893
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: like I'm not wearing makeup but I am thing, And

1894
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: then I get over that really quickly, and I just

1895
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: I find that I don't I don't ask him like

1896
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 1: what do you prefer and he doesn't say what he prefers.

1897
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: But I can tell that the more natural I am

1898
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: I get, he compliments me more. Really so, Jared's always

1899
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: told me that he likes me without makeup, And even

1900
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: when I was getting like some makeup trials, I was like,

1901
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 1: how do you how do you like it? And he

1902
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: was like, I like you better with that makeup. But

1903
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: sometimes when I do myself just medium, I can see

1904
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: the affection and he'll be like tabbing my butt more

1905
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: and holding my waist whore I'm like, oh, I wonder

1906
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:53,600
Speaker 1: if it says something to do with the fact that

1907
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a little bit of makeup. I know, I

1908
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: think at the but I'm not gonna say it. I'm

1909
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 1: not saying at the end of the day, I think

1910
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: that men genuinely do love their partner all natural, but

1911
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: when they get spiced up, they're like they need a

1912
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: balance though, because they want to see you looking like

1913
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: you're putting effort in it, because they appreciate the effort.

1914
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: It's the same thing when the guys do it. Like

1915
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: what I love Jason in the backwards hat and in

1916
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: sweats and like just chilling. But when he is like

1917
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: we went to an engagement party that day and he

1918
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: looked all daf for I was like, damn, Like, you know,

1919
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: I like Darondet of Tucks and I liked him dressed

1920
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: totally down. Yeah, I like extremes. Yeah, all right, what

1921
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: was your most embarrassing moment in your let's say your thirties,

1922
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 1: in your thirties, Uh, the most embarrassing moment in my thirties.

1923
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's so crazy, as I actually have a

1924
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 1: really hard time thinking about this. I do too. Um,

1925
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: I guess like my dad, I am so so close

1926
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: with my with my parents, well my whole family. My

1927
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 1: dad is like the big guessed angel Jim, sweetest man

1928
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: you've ever met in your whole life. And he was

1929
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: so he knows who I am. He knows I'm this

1930
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: like wild child, free spirit, do what I want and

1931
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: and I think he he had a little bit of

1932
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: a tough time watching the Bachelorette, but but also was

1933
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: very very proud of me and always told me that.

1934
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 1: But the most embarrassing thing for me was he I

1935
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: found out he didn't go to the grocery store for

1936
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: a while because my face was all over magazines with

1937
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: like pregnancy rumors and like sex scandals. And to me,

1938
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: that was like the most embarrassing thing that he didn't

1939
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: want to tell me that he couldn't go to the

1940
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 1: grocery store, but I found out because he was like

1941
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: a little bit like I think he felt sad that that,

1942
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: like he knew things weren't like he was like, don't

1943
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: do that to my daughter. And I feel like that's

1944
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: the most embarrassing thing I can think of in my

1945
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: thirties was that my dad didn't want to go to

1946
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 1: the grocery store because of my decisions on a Showah alright, okay, Um,

1947
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: if you had an envelope in front of you and

1948
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: it inside had the day that you were going to die,

1949
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: would you open it? Man? I knew you were gonna

1950
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: come up with a better one. Good either. No, I

1951
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 1: don't think so. I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. Some

1952
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: people say yes because they're like, well, i'd want to

1953
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: live my life. I'm like, I wouldn't live. I would

1954
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 1: be like paranoid to do it and bedn't countdown to death. Yeah,

1955
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: you'd just be I'd be like depressed, I wouldn't want

1956
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: to do anything, and I'd be like, what am I

1957
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: going to die? That way? Like what? I would just hide.

1958
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: I know that when I'm having like stressful times, if

1959
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: there's something that's all consuming in my brain, that I

1960
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: can't really do anything else. So I feel like that

1961
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: would take effect with this, where I'd be like I'd

1962
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: be I'd be thinking so much of that that I

1963
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't actually be accomplishing things. Yeah, same, same, I'm the

1964
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: same fantastic pross that one offully All right, now I

1965
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: have my two good ones. Okay, yes, M give up

1966
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: sex or wine? Wine? Oh you love wine. I thought

1967
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: that was gonna be harder for you. You have, But

1968
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: intimacy is the most hortant thing in a relationship. There

1969
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: you go, wouldn't you say, Hey, intimacy does not have

1970
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: to mean sex. But to me, I we all know

1971
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm not a virgin. That's why I asked you the question,

1972
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: and I think, um, yeah, I would never pick wine

1973
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: an alcohol over a healthy relationship. What about food, Well,

1974
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: that's just survival. Actually, I can't survive without food. Okay, fine,

1975
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean like eating corn flakes every day, or the

1976
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 1: plainest thing you could think of. Wait what Wait that

1977
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: didn't make sense. I don't get it. Yeah, never mind,

1978
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 1: moving on your turn. Okay. Uh, funniest behind the scene

1979
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 1: moment with Jared that nobody knows about, like behind the

1980
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: scenes like camera yeah or not, just something that funny

1981
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 1: that people like, a story that I don't know. I

1982
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: saved my worst one for last. You saved your best

1983
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,560
Speaker 1: behind the scene Okay. Well, I mean I think that

1984
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: the one, the moment that happened not on camera at all,

1985
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: that I wish people knew was the whole fall of

1986
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: two thousand, which was if you watch our story of

1987
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: us on YouTube, you understand what happened. But it was

1988
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: basically just I was slowly and so contrively, um making

1989
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: every little move too. That was totally true to myself.

1990
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: But I knew that would like impress him. I was like,

1991
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be my best version of myself, and

1992
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be friends with him, and if he

1993
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: likes what he sees, then let's so be it. That's great,

1994
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: right for me and great for him. And I feel

1995
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: like nobody saw how I was actually cool and I

1996
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: actually want him over for a period of time. And

1997
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: that period of time really let me up when it

1998
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: came to everybody's seeing me in Bachelor in Paradise three,

1999
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: because we did, you know, we eight out because I

2000
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: knew he was interested, he was blatantly interested, and then

2001
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: certain things happened where he was not so sure anymore,

2002
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 1: and you know, he was always in his head about everything.

2003
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: But I think at the whole fall two thousand and

2004
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: fifty and if if I could have something captured on camera,

2005
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: it would be that time when you were being cool. Yeah, okay, okay.

2006
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: My last question is also a little raunchy. Give it

2007
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: to me. Of all the fantasy suites you've been in,

2008
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: what was your favorite? Besides Sean? It was Ben because

2009
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 1: because we actually had really great conversation and we were

2010
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: just like sipping whiskey talking about life, and we had

2011
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: this whole castle in Ireland to ourselves and we were like,

2012
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: should we go exploring? And we went to the top

2013
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 1: of this castle and it was like felt really haunted

2014
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: and we got so scared that we like, couldn't you

2015
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: think you were like drunk in the fields when where

2016
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: you're like drunken styles running around there? Yeah, okay, but

2017
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 1: not for fantasy, sweetest. I mean we were like drinking

2018
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 1: and riding horses around the field and and running away

2019
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: from donkeys and stuff. Yeah, but yeah, it was we

2020
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 1: just I felt like we had a really fun we

2021
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: were dancing, Like I just feel like we had a

2022
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 1: really really fun time full of conversation, actually dancing and

2023
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: trying to like explore a haunted castle. Fun. Yeah, very fun. Yeah.

2024
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 1: Is that that it were done? No? I don't want

2025
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,959
Speaker 1: to be well, Caitlyn, we've already gone almost two hours.

2026
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 1: I just like talking to my about myself. I like

2027
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: hearing on the sound about boy so much fun with you.

2028
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to like bury the things that you

2029
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: need to promote. We already talked about your scrunches and

2030
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,559
Speaker 1: your wine label, but I do want you to reiterate that.

2031
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 1: And of course the off the Vine podcast and what's

2032
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: the other one called grape Therapy so Grape Therapy and

2033
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 1: Off the Vine they're both line themed podcast but they

2034
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 1: come out each of them each week. So you have

2035
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: two podcasts that release have three now I know three

2036
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 1: of the drug phone calls yeah, drunk tuh. Yeah. So

2037
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:11,759
Speaker 1: Off the Vine comes out Tuesday, Grape There becomes out Thursday,

2038
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: Drunk comes out Friday. Uh. But I mean, like, I

2039
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: think about this and don't we have all the same listeners.

2040
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 1: I really think they roll over. I think them are

2041
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah. But for those of you who are

2042
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: new to to me, um, I yes, I have a

2043
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 1: wine label coming out so it it's called Spade and

2044
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 1: Fair if you're new to Caitlin. Uh. And then my scrunch,

2045
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: which is it's honestly, it's such a fun page. It's

2046
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: at do edit on Instagram. D E W E D

2047
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: I T. And they're the strongest scrunches you'll ever use. Honestly,

2048
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: they're so legit and they're too legit to quit. They'll

2049
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 1: give you the highest, tightest pony, tell you lever. It

2050
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: makes your chair look thicker. That's and for thick hare

2051
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 1: people are always like, yeah, but we'll hold thick care.

2052
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, try me. Yeah, one time or round. Yeah,

2053
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: if only we were so lucky to have a one

2054
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: time around. Yeah, in the next in my next life,

2055
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: I will come around with lioness hair. All right. On

2056
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: that note, you guys, this was the one and only

2057
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:18,559
Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristo. Thank you for listening Almost Famous in Depth. Ben,

2058
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 1: We miss you. Thank you for your note. You are

2059
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: quite the man. You are a diamond in the rough,

2060
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,880
Speaker 1: truly all right, and you had so many diamonds and

2061
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 1: so we could continue, but we cannot. Goodbye. Starting off,

2062
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: I've been Ashley, I've been Caitlin. Totally Follow the Benn

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01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,719
Speaker 1: and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.