1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headhours at the 4 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Star in Preschool, flowing to the gold Line, Shallow's Got 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Taydays and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's how's it going, everybody, It's 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys once again, a little 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: bit early on this Thursday. As Thursday and Fridays from 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: now on, we will be going at nine fifteen thanks 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy's press conference coming up a little bit 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: later on in the morning. But we are Talking Cowboys. 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Happy October. October everybody. It's now September is ended. We've 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: moved into October. It's officially football season, at least for 14 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: those of you who are up here with us in 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: North Texas. It's not football weather yet, but we're getting there. 16 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: But we're into October. And if you want to have 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: some encouragement today, Mike McCarthy has had a fantastic record 18 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: in the month of October thirty two and fifteen in 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: his career. In October, So hopefully that's some good juju 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: heading in the way of the Dallas Cowboys as we 21 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: head into this next couple of games. I'm Kyle Yeoman's 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: alongside as well, Rob Phillips, heck Ma Harrison, and our 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: residence Super Bowl champion Isaiah stand Back and guys, it's 24 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: nice that it is October. I'm waiting for the cool 25 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: air to kind of finally make its way to North Texas. 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: But we haven't had that opportunity yet, unfortunately. But one 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: thing we have had the opportunity of is seeing a 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit of an injury report from yesterday's game. We 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: mentioned how or yesterday's practice. Rather, we mentioned how we 30 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily going to get that for the Wednesday show. 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: But now as we're in the Thursday show, Rob, what 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: have you seen from the injury report and what stuck 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: out to you from yesterday's practice the fact that they 34 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: don't have injured reserve guys on the injury report. You 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: look at it and you're like, man, the Cowboys look 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: pretty healthy. They look good. They only got three guys 37 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: on there. They got more problems than just that. However, 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: some progress with Tyrn Smith with the neck injury he 39 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: didn't officially practice, but he did get some individual work done. 40 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: As of Wednesday, Mike McCarthy said he's not cleared for 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: full contact yet. So I would imagine today, although he's 42 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: a VET and he can play on short notice, I 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: would imagine today is very important to see what he 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: can do, just because it's their last big work day 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: of the week, and so that's the one to really 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Also to Marcus Lawrence, did not 47 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: practice with the knee that he's been managing and probably 48 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: just trying to manage him to get to the game, 49 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I would imagine. And Trayvon Diggs also on that injury report, 50 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: although he was a full participant. You find it and 51 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: like that DMP next too. I did not like that 52 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: DMP next to Tank Lawrence's name. Man, that took all 53 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: the pumpkin spice out of the air for me. Okay, 54 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: So you don't find that anything. That is what my 55 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: question was gonna be. Is that not an encouraging thing 56 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: with it? Did not practice because of the fact that 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: he may just be looking for the game. But once again, 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: and kind of goes back to last week, we thought 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the same thing and he didn't really have a really 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: a huge impact in Week three. Well, I think it's 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: impactful that he's obviously not practicing, but look at the 62 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: game man, Tank is. As much as people are down 63 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: on him about not getting to the quarterback, he's doing 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: a lot of other things at the defensive line. In all, 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: twenty two has blessed us with the ability to go 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: back and slow mow a lot of these things to 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: show the effectiveness to up Tank in the run. And 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: so I'm just looking for a guy like Tank to 69 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: get healthy because we know we need him going down 70 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the stretch. But right now, just these early injury bugs 71 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: that's hitting the Cowboys. Man, it's not a good sign 72 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: for us, Isaiah. Whenever it comes to having guys that 73 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: are trying to get back and trying to rehab and 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to work on specifically a knee injury, and we're 75 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: talking in the case of DeMarcus Lawrence here, is that 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: one of the tougher parts of the body, at least 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: to rehab. I know, really, any NFL injury is going 78 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: to be a significant NFL injury. There's no such thing 79 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: as a small one. But whenever you talk about the 80 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: knee specifically, is that a tougher region of the body 81 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: to heal and to rehab more efficiently moving into the week, 82 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: I believe, So, I guess in its totality, I mean, 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: it really depends on what he's dealing with. Right, Obviously 84 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: we're not going to get through the real scoop. They're 85 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: going to keep that close to their chest. But you know, 86 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: it really depends on what, how how how traumatic it 87 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: really is whatever he's dealing with. So, I mean, they 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: can be ailing. I can mention that obviously, being that 89 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: you need your legs for every position in this sport, 90 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: and especially at the position that he plays because it 91 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: is so much more demanding of a position. Right, He's 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: pushing against people who weigh more than him every single play, 93 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: which caused obviously you know, causes stress on the knee. 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: He's also coming out as explosively as he can, which 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: obviously push the most amount of stress on the knee. 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: And then he's going to be facing offenses where guess what, 97 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: everybody knows he has knee issues. People are in the 98 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: game to necessarily try to hurt you, but if they 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: have an advantage, guys will definitely as a running back, 100 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: they'll try to take your knees out to guess what 101 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: to make you think twice about rushing at the speed 102 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: in which you're capable of. So it's definitely a concern. 103 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: It's not something that you want to see. They are 104 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: going to do everything they can. Like I said, at 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they probably have the best training staff that 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: I encounter, and they probably have the best to training 107 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: staff in the league with all the guys they have there. 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: So he's in more than more than good care. But 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: it's definitely something that that's concerning, especially when you're one 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and two when you need this. W Isaiah, you sound 111 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: like a doctor man. Unfortunately I know too much about 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: the body. Unfortunately, when we were when we were up 113 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: here filming the film study session for Academy earlier in 114 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: the week, one of the biggest things that Isaiah was 115 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: saying is like, Man, I wish this was not COVID 116 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: times I would walk over and say hi to all 117 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: the training staff. He's like, I'd go and say hi 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: to Brett Brown and say hi to these guys because 119 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you knew them well enough. And I guess that's something 120 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: that a lot of players have the opportunity to to 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: know those guys and be able to get to have 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: those those relationships, and Isaiah's one of those. But uh yeah, 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: whenever we're talking about the injuries, and Rob mentioned this 124 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: a minute ago, when you look at the injury report, 125 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland puts all of their guys on there. So really 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the injury report, it's a couple names of the Cowboys 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: and then it's just a hefty list of Cleveland Brown's 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: following it, and it makes it look like, oh wow, 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are relatively healthy. As we all know, that's 130 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily the New England approach. It is the New 131 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: Land approach. Newland approach. Man. It's also not the case 132 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys perspective because of all the players on 133 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: injury reserve, which there are quite a few, close to 134 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: close to a dozen players on injured reserve right now. 135 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: But of course the offensive line is banged up as 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: we preview today the Cowboys offense versus the Cleveland defense, 137 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: and I want to start in the trenches. I want 138 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: to start there because I really think that's where this 139 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: game can be won for the Dallas Cowboys is the 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: fact that your offensive line, yes it's banged up. You 141 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: have both tackles out, potentially Lyle Collins as seemingly as 142 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: not making his return this week. He hasn't returned the 143 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: practice or been taken off of ir Tyrann Smith trying 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: to get back into the group, but still questionable as 145 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: we head into week four. But whenever it comes to 146 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Brandon knighte whenever it comes to Terrence Steel, they're gonna 147 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: have those matchups that they dread really from an office 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: into tackle standpoint. Miles Garrett looking on the other side 149 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: and heck, b I know you've done the film work 150 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: throughout the first couple of days. Tell me what you've 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: seen from Miles Garrett. And is there a way that 152 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: we have Brandon Knight or Terrence Steel in a position 153 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: where they could stop him at any point this week? 154 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: Oh God, another week, another dog. And that is what 155 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is. Miles Garrett in high school, man, he 156 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: played like one of those guys from your neighborhood that 157 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't get to come outside a lot. He plays with 158 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: a lot of energy and he is running hard all 159 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: the time. And now he's just transition from Texas A 160 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: and m all the way now to the Cleveland Browns 161 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: and his ability to get around, to get around that 162 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: curve and bend and his power at the point of 163 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: attack is amazing. And I what I really worry about, 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: it's him stunting towards some guys that may need some 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: help at the guard position. But he doesn't just want 166 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: to get your sack your quarterback. He wants to sack him, 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: he wants to strip the ball, he wants to create 168 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: that bumble and he's better than a lot of people 169 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: in the league at doing that. But another name on 170 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: this defensive front that really worries me is Adrian Clayborne. 171 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: And uh, Rob, you know about our history with this guy, 172 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and so, uh no, a little bit, yeah no, no, 173 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about him. So I mean, I think 174 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: we got him some some dollars in the bank one 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: game that he played against us. But this is just 176 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those matchups. And I know, Isaiah, 177 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Sheldon Richardsons of the world 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: and all the guys that we have in the interior 179 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: line for the Browns. But the Browns have they're pretty 180 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: styled up front, and so again offensive line is going 181 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: to have to take the battle to another defensive front. Yeah, man, 182 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: we touch on it. We touch on it in the 183 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: film room the other day, right, um, and talking about 184 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: this defensive line in their defensive ends and how they 185 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: play these guys, I mean this defense. They want to 186 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: play a bass defense. They want to go four three 187 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: on you all day long. They are gonna sit in 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: that box and they're gonna say, hey, could come at me, Bro, 189 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, as we've been saying. So, I mean, these 190 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: guys are stout. Uh, they're strong up front. We mentioned 191 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: yesterday on the show how they're strong right now where 192 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: we're weak right now. So this office aligne and the trenches, 193 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Kyed, is gonna be tough because they 194 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: do have some dogs and they you know, they have 195 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: guys like you know, Garrett, they have guys like Richardson, 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: you know, they have Clay where they have these guys 197 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: that are high motor guys. It's not even so much 198 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: that they're necessarily just all out dogs. It's just that 199 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: it's more dangerous sometimes to play just high motor guys 200 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: because they don't stop right and it's coming in a wave. 201 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: Like all of them, whoever's in the game for them 202 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: right now is just going right. And I mean they 203 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: have I think they have eight sacks on the year, right, 204 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: which is they're they're they're coming. So they're dangerous, man, 205 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: They're dangerous, and like I said, I think the biggest challenge. 206 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: I know we've talked a lot about our interior alignement 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: as of late because they just haven't been that great. 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: But these tackles, man, they're gonna be on an eye 209 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: land and it ain't Rivers's island. These boys are gonna 210 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: be out there by themselves, and you know, we're gonna 211 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: really see what these guys can and can't do. They've 212 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: been helped out a lot over these first few games. 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: This game, they're gonna be one on one by themselves, 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and not only them, but the guards as well, because 215 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: of how why these guys play on a defensive line. 216 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: They play four eyes so that the defensive tackles on 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: third down like the lineup on an outside shoulder of 218 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: the guards. Well not only that, then the defensive end 219 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: likes line up two to you know, one of two, 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: one of three yards outside of your outside of your 221 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: your your tack or you're tight end. So everybody's gonna 222 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: be on an island. They're gonna be by themselves. This 223 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: is one on one drills in practice. This is not 224 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a collaborative effort out offensive line. You know, 225 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: we've been talking the last couple of days about Zack 226 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: Martin and where he should play to give the line 227 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: the best chance, and he said on conference call yesterday 228 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: he said he expects to play guard, go back to 229 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: his normal spot. And the more to y'all's point, the 230 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: more you watch the Cleveland Browns on tape, you could 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: put him anywhere, and there's gonna be a matchup problem 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: somewhere else potentially because of their stout front four, and 233 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those front fours where they don't really 234 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: have to blitz much. They've got they've got four guys 235 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: up front, they can get to the quarterback. And you 236 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: guys mentioned Garrett. Obviously, we'll see what happens with Olivier Vernon, 237 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: he's been banged up. And then like heck said, we 238 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: might see Adrian Clayborne, which will you know, cause some 239 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: goosebumps for Cowboys fans based on twenty seventeen, But the 240 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: interior defensive line Ojanobia I hope I pronounced his name correctly, 241 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: is really stout against the run, and that's that's a 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: that's a matchup I'm looking forward to seeing can the 243 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys establish their run against this interior Brown's defensive front 244 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: because they do get up the field, they do have 245 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: high motor guys, and they're able to affect teams that way. 246 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: And we've talked about it for a few days now. 247 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys need more balance than they had on Sunday in Seattle. 248 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, they've got to get Zeke more involved. 249 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Some of it was Okay, they're going to load up 250 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: to stop us, They're gonna blitz safeties and linebackers. Okay, 251 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna try to expose things in the 252 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: passing game. But you'd like to think ze can get 253 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: more involved than he was in Week three. Well in 254 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: this defensive line, do you guys truly do you guys 255 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: think that he can? I'm sorry, now go for it, Isaiah. 256 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask if you guys think that 257 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: he really can, because i mean, we all know in 258 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: this league, once you put something on tape like it's 259 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna like that next team is like, oh, let's get 260 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: or done right. So the Seattle Show, we talked about 261 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: it prior to the game, and then Seattle went out 262 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: there and showed it that they weren't gonna let Zeke 263 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: get off, Right, they weren't gonna let Zeke get off. Hey, Dak, 264 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to throw your way to a victory. 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: And he almost did, right, he almost did. But I 266 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: think teams feel more secure forcing Dak to throw the 267 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: ball versus letting Zeke eat on the ground, because there's 268 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: there's less. It's it's a high it's a higher percentage play. Right, 269 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: handing the ball off and letting him run is a 270 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: higher percentage play, So it's probably gonna be more effective. 271 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: So how about we just put a stop to that 272 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: and let this guy see if he gets thrown around. 273 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I honestly think they're gonna get a heavy dose of 274 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: what they saw last week against Seattle. Except for what 275 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Rob mentioned, this team doesn't have to blitz to get pressure. Yeah, 276 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: we'll probably agree with you. I think you pointed that out. 277 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: You pointed that out last week against Seattle, saying that 278 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: they were going to sell out to stop Zeke. And 279 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: what did they do? They sold out to stop Zeke. 280 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: And the film is out there and Ogen Jovi, Rob 281 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: is he's a run stuffer for real, and he's a 282 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: kind and he's a kind of guy that will move 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: around a lot on that Cleveland Browns line. But one 284 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: thing that I'm noticing is teams every time the Cowboys 285 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: spread them out or gold trips formations, they automatically are 286 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: blitzed the Cowboys. I mean, it's like they abandoned everything 287 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: once we go into trips, because our trips formations are 288 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: really dangerous once we set a tight end or all 289 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: three of our great receivers together and so the teams 290 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: understand what we're trying to do and just getting that 291 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: balance back into the fold for the running game, This 292 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: heink is something that it is going to be necessary 293 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: for us, because once we become predictable, I think that's 294 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: when that's what things kind of go out of whack 295 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: for all offense. But you know, it does bring up 296 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: the question, you know, when this offensive line has been 297 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: at their absolute best and dominant, it doesn't it didn't 298 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: really matter how many guys are in the box seven eight. 299 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, they could still run Zeke and Zeke could 300 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: still eat and I think I think he's such a 301 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: great running back. I think he still can. But they've 302 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: been so compromised with their with their front you know, 303 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: that push has got to be there, and I think 304 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: at times, at times it hasn't been to Isaiah's point, 305 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: and that takes away from, you know, really what their 306 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: identity has been the last few years. I mean, Da 307 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: Dak has progressed as a passer, we know that, but 308 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: when he's throwing thirty times as opposed to forty five, 309 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: they're they're just in better shape. He's in better shape. 310 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: It helps him out. They get the play action going, 311 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: they're able to to move safeties off spots and things 312 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: like that, so they've got to try to get back 313 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: to that. It is a tough matchup upfront, though this 314 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: week it's a matchup against a defensive line that you 315 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: want your defensive line to look like, where you've got 316 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: two guys in the middle of Oceanobi and also Sheldon 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: Richards Richardson right there in the middle that are pushing 318 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, that are run stuffers, that are still 319 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: going to be able to provide you a little bit 320 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: of pass rush. But then you have those athletic ends, 321 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: the Miles Garrett's, the Olivier Vernon, and if not Olivia Vernon, 322 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: then you've got Adrian Clayborne on the edge that are 323 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: very athletic, they're slim, they're they're fast, and they get 324 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: home very quickly. Those are the type of pass rushers 325 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: you're going up against. By the way, Miles Garrett thirty 326 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: three and a half sacks throughout his career. That's the 327 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: second most by an active player in their first forty 328 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: games or less in their career. I believe I haven't 329 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: double checked this yet, but I believe that other players 330 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: Alden Smith because of what he did early in his 331 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: career in his first forty games. I believe it's Alden Smith. 332 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: I'll double check that and come back tomorrow with a 333 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: handsolute answer. Yeah, there you go. But even and if 334 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: you don't see Olivier Vernon, you're gonna see an Adrian Clayborne. 335 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna see maybe even a Joe Jackson. Joe Jackson, 336 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: of course, who was with the Cowboys throughout training camp 337 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: and was plucked up off of waivers on September sixth. 338 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: He's played a multitude of snaps through the first three 339 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: weeks of the season and has actually played well and 340 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: has had a couple key plays in both the wins 341 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: against the Bengals and a win against Washington as well, 342 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a key matchup before we take 343 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: our first break. Really quickly though, in that interior of 344 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line, we've heard some rumblings, we've heard the rumors. 345 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: We saw what we saw in terms of fifty two 346 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: offensive snaps in Week three. But as Tyler beotis, the 347 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: rookie center out of Wisconsin potentially going to see a 348 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: start this week whenever it comes to this offensive line 349 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: trying to shake things up and move into Week four 350 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: against the Browns here, I hope, so, I hope. So 351 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: at least Savan he's one of those. He's another one 352 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: of those great Wisconsin offensive lineman and we've we've had 353 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: a few one of those, and he looked, be honest, 354 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: did not play bad at all. I mean, he showed 355 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: a lot of power also at the center position. So 356 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: we know that we're just the time clock for him 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: to actually take over that position has has started. So 358 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if if Tyler started the game 359 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: this Sunday at and T Statium against Shelton Richardson, Yeah, 360 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise. You. Gotta put him in there sometime. 361 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: We cannot hide him. You know it. Come on now, Isaiah, 362 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: that you don't get a red shirt gear in the NFL. 363 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: So we gotta see what you got. That's what it is. 364 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: Can you get a can you get a red shirt game? No? No, 365 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: he can't get the job. You want to put him 366 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: in there. You want to find the perfect time, Isaiah. 367 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: There are no perfect time. He didn't have a preseason. 368 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: You gotta feed him, you gotta put in there. We 369 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: have all I'm gonna say, I think he played well 370 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: last week. To throw him in there against this interior 371 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: defensive line is very similar to throwing trip on digs 372 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: against Julio Jones and DK Metcam. I'm just saying. You 373 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: gotta say, any time trial by fire or trialed by 374 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: death and such sees a rookie at center, oh my gosh, 375 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: that's and that's what we're gonna have to deal with. 376 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: The Cowboys can't hide any of these guys. Whatever the 377 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: witches are, it's already on tape, you see it. And 378 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: so we have got to get this rookie. We gotta 379 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: get him the reps. We weren't able to get it 380 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: to him in preseason. And if Looney is giving up 381 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: space are not able to hold ground or anchor himself 382 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: in that offensive lining. The tape is there on that. 383 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you have a rookie in there 384 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: or a Looney, the results are still the same. So 385 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: we can't just continue to wait. You can't continue to 386 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: wait to see who's gonna take the helm and be 387 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: the lead dog. We gotta say, hey, man, this is 388 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: your chance. We'll see if you got it or else. Man, 389 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: We're just gonna start looking on the street for one. Hey, 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: looking on the street this offseason obviously did some dog 391 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: on whale because it's the best player of the defense 392 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: right now, so that might not be a bad option. Hello, 393 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: that's true, that's fair. Yeah, No, I kind of tend 394 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: to lean on the side of hect my here. I 395 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: tend to lean on Hey, let's give the rookie a shot. 396 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: We've seen on film that really it hasn't been in 397 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: with Joe Looney in the middle, and maybe you even 398 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: slide him out to guard, and you slide Martin out 399 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: the tackle like we talked about last week, and like 400 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: we saw last week, you don't even have to do that. 401 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I'd be okay with Tyler Ben. Y'all are ruthless Hey, 402 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: you want to he won he won the Rimington Trophy 403 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, So you know, but Isaiah, you want 404 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: to swaddle these guys, you would have put him in swaddle. 405 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about them. Let me help you understand. 406 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna swaddw I know, Rob got the swadow 407 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: all the way down right now. I love that word. Yeah, 408 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: good word there. I am not only just concerned about 409 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: these guys and their feelings and all that kind of stuff. 410 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about what happens who you're trying to protect. 411 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Right If you put a rookie out there against Schulder, 412 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: against Schulder Richardson, he is going to have a field day, 413 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. And if he has a field day, 414 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: then guess who's not going to be very happy and 415 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: physically and mentally. It's going to be the dude that 416 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: you guys are trying to pay that right, So you 417 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: it's not just a matter of these guys getting out 418 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: there and oh they got to learn at sometime, it's like, no, 419 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: be very careful about who you put them out there 420 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: to learn against, because you can't help them this week. 421 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: The way that this defensive line plays, they literally put 422 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: all the offensive alignment on an island. It's not your 423 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: typical defensive line. They run all kinds of different form. 424 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: They line up all kind of different different ways to 425 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: create this separation. I mean, these guys are spreading fifteen 426 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: yards across the field now with the defensive alignment. So 427 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: these guys are going to have the interior help beyondat 428 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't have Looney or Martin. They wouldn't have those guys 429 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: next to them to help and you know, assistant. Some 430 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: of these blocks, it's gonna be man to man. So 431 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: if they get beat the interior line, it's gonna be 432 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: a straight line shot straight to deck. I would lean 433 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: towards experience here too. Yeah, but hey, Mike McCarthy said 434 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna work multiple combinations. In practice, he's gonna be 435 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: as vague as possible. And I guess we'll find out 436 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: at noon on Sunday. No, and I wish this might 437 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: have been a debate I would have started with. I 438 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize we were so split, who's gonna play the 439 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: center position come Sunday. I didn't realize the honest versus 440 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: Looney was gonna really divide us as much. But when 441 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna talk about the wide receivers 442 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: and of course the Cowboys having some success at that 443 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: spot no surprise to anybody in the NFL with the 444 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: personnel that they have there. 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It's the second segment here 481 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys, Week four, Episode four, Happy October, Everybody. 482 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm live from inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios, staying socially 483 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: distant out at the moment with met Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, 484 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back and guys, if you're going to the 485 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: stadium this weekend, I don't know if any of you 486 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: guys are, but make sure you know before you go, 487 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: wear a mask, keep that distance, and be prepared for 488 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: the cash list transactions. Please be aware of all safe 489 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: stadium policies prior to arriving at AT and T Stadium. 490 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Be sure to visit Dallas Cowboys dot com slash safe 491 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Stadium for details. Stay safe, state distance, stay loud. Whenever 492 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: it comes to the Dallas Cowboys taking on these Cleveland 493 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Browns this week, they're gonna have to have to get 494 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: a win to get back to two and two. And 495 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, if they don't get a 496 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: w this weekend, and we'll talk about this more tomorrow, 497 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: it may start to be the panic time. But with 498 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: this division being as bad as it is, I still 499 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: don't think that's the case. I don't think that's the 500 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: case just yet. I really don't. But I think you 501 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: can get a win this weekend, and the reasons why 502 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: is because of just how susceptible this secondary is against 503 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: what is still, in my opinion, the best wide receiving 504 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: corps in the NFL. The first time in Cowboys franchise 505 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: history they've had four one hundred yard game receivers in 506 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: one season, which is crazy because they've done it over 507 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the span of two weeks. They had Michael gallup In, 508 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson this past weekend against Seattle. The week prior 509 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: against Atlanta, it was Amara Cooper and Cedee Lamb. That's 510 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: the only time in Cowboys history that they've had four 511 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: different one hundred yard receivers in a single season at 512 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 1: any point, which is crazy to me. But they're going 513 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: to continue that success against what is Denzel Ward, Terrence Mitchell, 514 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Greedy Williams, who's been banged up a little bit on 515 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown's side of things. But Isaiah, when you 516 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: look at this matchup between the receivers and this Cleveland secondary, 517 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: is there anything that catches your eye in terms of 518 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: how the Cowboys can take advantage. Um, it's this. I mean, 519 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: this is gonna be real short. These these guys are 520 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: not impressive in the secondary. And I think it's not 521 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: even because of the personnel. I think it's more so 522 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: because of the scheme that the defensive coordinator is playing 523 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: with him. He is so confident in their front seven 524 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: that he believes that he can get home at any time. 525 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: So I think, I mean, even when you look at 526 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: some of their base defenses versus eleven personnel, they don't 527 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: always adjust. They don't always adjust a nickel. They'll leave 528 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: their base defense in there a lot of times, and 529 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: their linebackers are expected to go out there and cover 530 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: slot receivers. So this should be a dog on field 531 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: day for our for our offense, and the receivers they 532 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: should eat more than they've eating any other week. Um. 533 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: The only downside of that is you know, you have 534 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: to really abandon the run in order to do so. So, Um, 535 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: these guys, they they should kill this secondary all day long. Rob, 536 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: do you agree? Please? Yeah? I think, I mean there's 537 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: no question the strength of the Cleveland's defenses up front 538 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and part of the two with Cleveland in the back end. 539 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: Is is the injuries they've had. You know, Grant Delpitt 540 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: was a guy I just you know, I loved coming 541 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: out of LSU. He's out for the season. Greedy Williams 542 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: has yet to play I think this year, but he's 543 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: getting healthier. And Denzel Ward, who did a nice job, 544 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: was effective against AJ Green in the Cincinnati game, has 545 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: been banged up too, So they've they've got some injuries. Isaiahs, 546 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: you got me nervous on the Oh, well, we gotta 547 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: have been in the run maybe to do it. But 548 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: you know that I didn't. I didn't have a huge 549 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: problem with part of that game plan against Seattle, because 550 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: if you love your matchups on the outside, go for it. 551 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: You know. It's just the volume of times you're having 552 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: to pass protech with a banged up offensive line. And 553 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: for me, it goes back to, you know, taking care 554 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: of the football and making sure that you're not putting 555 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: your defense already in a tougher position than they already are. 556 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Run the ball, that's the 557 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: that's the that's the elixir for all that. So when 558 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Isaiah says abandon the run, that I get that mystery 559 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: me feeling again, Fellas, I don't like it, but I 560 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: mean because I don't, I don't want to see I 561 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: don't look. Man. For the last three weeks, this has 562 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: been a wild ride as a Cowboy fans, just watching 563 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: these games, it's like, man, I need a pacemaker. And 564 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: it's the back and forth and just the continuity of 565 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: our offense and the rhythm of it just doesn't seem 566 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: to be there. And I hate going back to the 567 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Seattle game, but I have to. At the end of 568 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the second end of the second half of the turnover 569 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: for Dak the to Amari Cooper, it was a play 570 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: where where Amara Cooper didn't come off the line for 571 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: a whole second. Now, I watched a lot of football. 572 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know of any routes that start there where, 573 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: especially a post route, which Isaiah you know as a 574 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: former quarterback, is a timing rote. It's all about timing, 575 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: and so it's just those little things that the Cowboys 576 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: are doing to beat themselves. When you bring in Cleveland, 577 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: we ought to feasts on this team because if they're 578 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: going to load the box up against us and these receivers, 579 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Dak should throw for let's say three hundred yards. So 580 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: if we say three hundred yards, that means he's to 581 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: throw the ball fifty seven times. But at least that's 582 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: loosening that defense up and making them do something that 583 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: they don't want to do. Last week, man, they had 584 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: the gift that keeps on giving, and that's Dwayne Haskins 585 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: for the Washington football team. He was a turnover machine. 586 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Once they went from two safeties high to one safety high, 587 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: he could not figure out what they were doing, and 588 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: he was just throwing into coverage. Dak isn't going to 589 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: do that. And how you don't do that is when 590 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: they are loading up, man, you still continue to give 591 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Zeke the ball and feed him and let everything after 592 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: that be predicated off of the success of the run game. 593 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: So my next question was going to be, is this 594 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna be another forty five parts passage the game in 595 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: terms of Dak Prescott, And I guess that answer was 596 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: just given to me by heck My Harrison. It's this 597 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: is not gonna be another one where you just air 598 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: it out over and over and over again, which brings 599 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: me to another question. Yes it is Kyle, you think, Yeah, 600 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know, we don't have a lot. I know, 601 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of time, becauld, we have 602 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: a couple of seconds to get through. But is he's 603 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball forty times this game? Man? Okay, Okay, 604 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw the ball forty times this game. Because 605 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: one understand this, Cleveland's gonna run the ball on offense. Right, 606 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: there's so many different things. We can't just look at 607 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: one side of the ball. Cleveland's going to run the ball. 608 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland is going to run six minutes off the clock 609 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: every time, not every time, but for a good amount 610 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: of every time they get the ball. I say every time. 611 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: If it's not really that, but they're gonna they're gonna, 612 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, I say they have twelve possessions. You know 613 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: at least some of these half of those possessions gonna 614 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: go for four to six minutes. Okay, so there's not 615 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of time left when the Cowboys 616 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: get the ball. So say Cleveland does score, right, Say 617 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland tolts this thing all the way down here. It 618 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: takes time out of the clock. Now Dallas is being 619 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: left with half a quarter. They have to they have 620 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: to throw the ball like that. They like that because 621 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be loading the box up. They're 622 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: not going to allow them to run, just like last week. 623 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: This is the this is the pride and joy of 624 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: their defense, the front seven. So you think they're gonna 625 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: let the pride and enjoy get disrespected. No, they're gonna 626 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: force you to throw somewhere else. And guess what, that's okay, 627 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: But you're not gonna be able to run the ball 628 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: like you want to. And if you shoot, if you 629 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: do try to run the ball, now you're forced You're 630 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: now you're trying to force it, and you're leaving yourself 631 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: susceptible to long down. And this is this that is Isaiah. 632 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: What you just said was absolutely correct. But just take 633 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: Cleveland's name off of that statement that you just said 634 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: and put Cowboys on that and then they have to 635 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: deal with all of the things that you just said, 636 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: Well they don't have, you know, their their clock management 637 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: is and they're trying to play from behind as well, 638 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: because we've milked a lot of that clock. That's all. 639 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: That's that's the game play, very very very very true. 640 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: But also this head there's a higher percentage, there's a 641 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: higher chance and a higher probability that you're gonna turn 642 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: the ball over throwing the ball, would you agree? Absolutely? Okay, 643 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: So they're just gonna bank on the fact that I 644 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: know you said Dax is not going to throw it up. 645 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Dak has more turnovers in Baker Mayfield this year, just 646 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: in case there is any question, right so, whether it's 647 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: fumbling or whether they think they had the same at 648 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the same amount of interceptions. But Dad has multiple fumbles, right, So, 649 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: so he has more turnovers than Baker Mayfield right now, 650 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: So they're gonna bank on the fact that, hey, he'll 651 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: throw it around forty times, and yes, we'll give us 652 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: some plays here and there. They might just try to 653 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: keep everything in front of them, right. If they keep 654 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna I feel that's gonna be that's gonna 655 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: be the game play. I think they're gonna play off 656 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: and let these guys throw underneath routes all day long 657 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: that they're not going to allow them to run the ball, 658 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: and they're gonna bank that they go they can hold 659 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: them in a red zone and make them kick field goals. 660 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: I think that's their game plan. Man, Cowboys just needed 661 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: like a ten point lead. They need a ten point 662 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: in a football game to be able to try to 663 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: try to get the run going. You know, um and 664 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned turnovers, and that's Mike McCarthy continues to hammer 665 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: the turnover battle. And the reason why is Cleveland's tied. 666 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: I think for the most takeaways in the league was seven. 667 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: I looked it up. They've got They've scored thirty four 668 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: points this year or I think thirty one off of 669 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: turnovers so far from their defense. Cowboys have three Cowboys 670 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: have scored three points I believe off takeaways from their defense. 671 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: And you and you, yeah, and you look at their 672 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: average start drive so far, like against Seattle was their 673 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: own nineteen. They're just they're having to drive a long fields. 674 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: They're having to throw the ball too much. And it's 675 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: all complimentary. You know, they need they need help from 676 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: their defense to get some shorter drives and to try 677 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: to build a lead because playing from behind, you're, like 678 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: like Isaiah said, man, you're just asking, you're putting yourself 679 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: in higher risk situations where you're gonna have to turn 680 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: the ball over and and they just they can't do 681 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: it because Cleveland will feast off that. That's how they're 682 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: two and one more than anything. Absolutely. Yeah, they why 683 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: Baker only has eighty some throws eighty times? It's really easy. 684 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: Also whatever you have that yeah efficient and Kyle, Yeah 685 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: I did. I just wanted to point out the fact 686 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: that you know, Dak Prescott has forty three more completions 687 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: and fifty eight more past attempts than Baker. Mayfield is 688 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty four more yards, five touchdowns, two interceptions, 689 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: the same. But look at the records, and so that 690 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: is indicative of the game plan. And that's what I'm saying, Isaiah. 691 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: If you if we're saying that we're gonna go into 692 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: a game like this and our number one thing that 693 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna underline and circle is abandoning the run, We're 694 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: not gonna have any success doing that. I'm saying it's 695 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: it's it's an area of concern because because you have 696 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: a like I said, you're right now, we're weak upfront. 697 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Call it how it is in comparison and comparison to 698 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: where we want to be and where we've been in 699 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: the past. Where you're weak up front, guess what they're not. 700 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: They're strong upfront. They're front seven is strong. So where 701 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: we're weak, they're strong, So even if you try to 702 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: go into you try to force it, force it, force it. 703 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: Guess what, Now you're in third and long, right, you 704 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: pump the ball and you're giving it back to a 705 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: team that's going to run the ball efficiently where you're weak, 706 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: and they're gonna run time off the clock, which which 707 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: all adds up to them, guess what, having a lead. 708 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: And then at some point in time in the game, 709 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: probably around the second quarter, you gotta say the heck 710 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: with it with this run thing. We gotta we gotta, 711 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: we gotta score some points. So what do you start doing. 712 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: You start throwing and they're gonna let you throw it. 713 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna let you throw. They're gonna let you throw it. 714 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: They're gonna try to buckle down into red zone and 715 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: guess what, give you three points and guess what three 716 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: points is and beat seven points. So that's where this 717 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: game is gonna have. It's gonna go I think if 718 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: the game is gonna go by really quickly, I think 719 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna be This game is gonna fly by because 720 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of catches for the Cowboys 721 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: and gonna be a lot of running for Cleveland and 722 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: it's a tough matchup. They have to be efficient. They 723 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: have to be efficient. Well, we're up on the other 724 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: side of a break here as we get into the 725 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: final minutes here of Talking Cowboys when we come back, 726 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: is this the best defense in front that the Cowboys 727 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: that face so far? 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But before we get started here, in 772 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: the final couple of minutes, whether you're watching from home 773 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: or cheering in the stands, with lenses, you'll see every 774 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: exciting playbook and appointment at your local or experts and 775 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: find the perfect or lenses for you seaboard, do more 776 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: slor guys. I'd use this question going into the break, 777 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: but I've actually got two questions for you. The first 778 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: one is, out of the first three games, now entering 779 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: week four, is this the best front seven that we've 780 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: seen as the Dallas Cowboys Looking on the Cleveland defensive 781 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: side to the football, is this the best front seven 782 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: we've seen? And is it the worst secondary we've seen it. 783 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to say yes or no to both. 784 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: It's not one question. There are two separate questions. But 785 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what you guys think because this 786 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: has been a debate throughout the office up here, at 787 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: least over the last couple of days in terms of 788 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: what we're actually seeing on this defensive side of the football. Heckma, 789 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: And that's a tough one. I mean because Aaron Donald 790 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: is like five guys and one, so what do you 791 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: I just have a hard time saying that after the 792 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: job that ninety nine did to offensive line. But I 793 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: guess if we're just basing it off of names and 794 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: studs and dudes that have done it for a while 795 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: in the league, Yeah, that's that's that's a fair assessment. Secondary. 796 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh yea go yeah that second part, Go ahead, Yeah, 797 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: secondaries it's bad. So, I mean, I think offensive front 798 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: line wise, yes, they're really good for line wise, but 799 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: as far as the back half of the defense, no, 800 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty bad. Okay isah uh? Defensive front? I 801 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: think the best defensive front we faced was Atlanta prior 802 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: to Tach getting getting hurt um, that was gonna be 803 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: absolute problem. In that first quarter of a prior to 804 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: him getting hurt. So I think they had the best 805 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: front seven. I think this is probably the second best 806 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: front seven. Um, they don't have necessarily one dominant player, 807 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: but again, collectively, I think they do a good job secondary. 808 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: The secondary is gonna get torched. M I just don't 809 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna allow big plays to happen. They 810 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: were gonna give up a lot of underneath classes, a 811 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of out routes, a lot of curls and anything 812 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: underneath that they want to think calb was to have 813 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: their way there. But I think they're just gonna be told, 814 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: don't let anybody beat you over the top, because that's 815 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: honestly where Dallas is one. Yeah, I'm not sure about 816 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: their second there. I guess it might depend on how 817 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: healthy they are. Um, but yeah, i'd say there it's 818 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: probably the second best front seven. I mean, like I'm 819 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: with hack On on Aaron Donald, Like, if you got 820 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you're the best front seven. But but but 821 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is basically the same type in terms of 822 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: a guy that can wreck a game. He could do that, 823 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, basically any chance Washington had to come back 824 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: in that game last week. He ruined that with a 825 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: sack strip fumble, So he can turn a game on 826 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: a dime with a big play and take the ball 827 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: away from your offense. I think whatever, you look at 828 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: the front seven, and I would probably say Atlanta up 829 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: there as well with Tat McKinley, even though I know 830 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: Tat McKinley doesn't scare you as much as Aaron Donald 831 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett. But I think that whole front that 832 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: Atlanta had was probably the best collective unit in terms 833 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: of what they were bringing to the table. And we 834 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: saw that in terms of the fumbles and the turnovers 835 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,959 Speaker 1: in the run game that we saw in that first 836 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: quarter against the Falcons that just didn't look good. Now, 837 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: I don't expect that same thing to happen, hopefully not 838 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: the same thing to happen against Cleveland because that would 839 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: be a disaster again. But I really do like what 840 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland does from a scheme perspective, And Isaiah sold me 841 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: the other day on the film session. By the way, 842 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: if you haven't checked it out, go look at it 843 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: on Cowboys dot Com because it's extremely insightful. But the 844 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: way that Miles Gary gets so out wide and the 845 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: way that Clayborne and Vernon whenever they need to and 846 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: whenever they're healthy, can get out wide. I think these 847 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: tackles are going to have a rough time against this 848 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: defensive line. I still think the secondary susceptible. I think 849 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: there's a chance that you can have those big plays, 850 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: even though I know Isaiah you said they're mostly gonna 851 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: give up the underneath stuff. Either way, you're going to 852 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: have success throwing the football and finding it, finding the 853 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: way to get it into the weapons hands. In terms 854 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: of Ceedee Lamb and Mary Cooper, Michael Gallup, Cedric Wilson, 855 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I think they have a big game moving into this weekend. 856 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: Is this a chance that we go into it though 857 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: looking at it as maybe another slow game for Zeke. 858 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: I know we've talked about the run game and getting 859 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: it going, but real quick, we real quickly before we 860 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: wrap up Zeke hundred yards all purpose or no heading 861 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: into this weekend. No? Oh okay, so no, just like that. Okay, 862 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: there you go. Hey, And I gotta say, also, man, 863 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: that Philip Studdy that you and Isaiah did was quality, 864 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 1: because when Isaiah was showing how that wide nine split 865 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: from Miles Garrett, it's it's a nightmare for a lot 866 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 1: of left tackles to see that guy that far away. 867 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: It's like that whole split second that he gets to 868 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: use it lasted eternity. And with a guy like Brandon Knight, 869 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: who Zeke called the war Daddy Dadda, I want to 870 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: see him take the barroom brawl if he has that 871 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: in him two miles Garrett, because he's gonna have that time, 872 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, because he's spread out so wide. But our 873 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: offensive line has got to take pride, has to take 874 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: some pride in themselves. And they hear all the chirping 875 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: and people like Isaiah staring it up and saying that, hey, 876 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on an island by yourself. This guy's 877 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a friendly gonna beat you down. So you know, 878 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: these guys are these guys are professionals too, and so 879 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: they've got to take some pride in the fact that 880 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: they have the number one running back in the whole league. 881 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: So you gotta get that guy off, and you know 882 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: that makes a game so much easier for your quarterback. 883 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: I'll say yes, just because I don't I don't love 884 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: the matchup up front either, but I think they're due 885 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: to have a lead in the second half where he 886 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: can eat a little bit, and maybe Tony Pollard can 887 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: eat a little bit. So I think I'll go, Yes, 888 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: I'll just be a little I'll be different here. Yes, 889 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: oh man, I'm with you. Rob. I think he'll get 890 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: a hundred yards here. And I think it's because of 891 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: the fact that the Cowboys should hopefully have a second 892 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: half lead against Cleveland. But it'll be a fun one. 893 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: We'll predict the game tomorrow. We'll give you the final 894 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 1: keys as we head into the weekend and get you 895 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: set up for Sunday's matchup between the Dallas Cowboys and 896 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns when we come back nine fifteen tomorrow, 897 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: once again a little bit early because of the Mike 898 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: McCarthy press conference. Nine and fifteen tomorrow. Bring it, Say 899 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: it with your chest Friday. We're gonna lay it all 900 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: out on the table, bring us your fan questions. Let's 901 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 1: talk about say with your chests. We're leading into the weekend. 902 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to five hundred. It's gonna be 903 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,479 Speaker 1: a party at the Star. It's gonna be a whole 904 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: ordeal throughout the next couple days. But that's gonna do 905 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: it here for this Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys. For 906 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Fort Harrison, and Isaiah Standback. I'm Kyle Yeoman 907 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: saying so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see 908 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,240 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. I'm Talking Cowboys. This has been a production 909 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.