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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and what's episode one three five of the

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Speaker 1: hiber Territory podcast. I'm your host spread Roland, come to

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Speaker 1: you on a Saturday afternoon question mark, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: as I often slash always, by Scott Coleman. Scott, how

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Speaker 1: are you here in mid January?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, I'm doing really well. It is about sixty

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Speaker 2: degrees where I am, but it sounds like you and

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Speaker 2: a lot of the fine folks in your neck of

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Speaker 2: the woods, I've had some pretty bad winter storms, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I did grow up in the Midwest,

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Speaker 2: so I am used to some snow and some cold,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a long time, at least for me

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Speaker 2: since I've gotten to enjoy some of maybe the fun

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Speaker 2: side of winter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta got like four inches of snow and

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Speaker 1: one day, and that is a lot for here. I

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Speaker 1: I've it from the Midwest as well, and people would

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Speaker 1: make fun of us for this, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: But when you aren't set up to deal with the weather,

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Speaker 1: the weather strikes you a lot harder. Like the Hawks

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Speaker 1: out of game as we're talking right now, actually on

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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon. They got postponed today as people just can't

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Speaker 1: get to the arena. So it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: where it could be fun lots of snow. It can

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Speaker 1: also be kind of funny if you're from the North.

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Speaker 1: I understand that too. But here we are and uh,

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Speaker 1: living the dream here on a Saturday afternoon. We should

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Speaker 1: say I was off the show.

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Speaker 2: We should always did like sorry, bred I was gonna

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Speaker 2: say I did, like Blooper walking naked through tourist park.

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Speaker 1: I forgot what good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the man. When the Braves first announced Blooper,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is kind of dumb. It's

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Speaker 2: obviously for like seven year olds at the ballpark, but

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Speaker 2: through social media and just kind of growing that brand

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Speaker 2: of Blooper. I mean talk about hitting a home run

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Speaker 2: from a marketing and fan engagement perspective, he it, he it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Blooper is is pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a great job with maximizing what that

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Speaker 1: could have been. So I'm actually with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: It's like kind of not for me, but they do

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Speaker 1: a very good job on social media with these bits

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Speaker 1: that he does. And if you didn't see it, for

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Speaker 1: folks listening or watching the podcast Blooper, which just was

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Speaker 1: like frolicking in the snow at Truest, which was certainly

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Speaker 1: fun to watch. So find that on Twitter or Instagram

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to. We should say on the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, as we always do, we are part

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Speaker 1: of Fallid Territory. Check out the entire network of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Were just all finding us for the first time. We

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Speaker 1: are Hammer Territory. It's myself and Scott plus Steven Tolbert

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Speaker 1: and Sean Coleman. We cover the Braves year round, whether

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Speaker 1: they're doing anything or not, which is certainly of note

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Speaker 1: right now when they're not doing anything and they haven't

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Speaker 1: been for quite some time. But please subscribe to our

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Speaker 1: podcast any where you find your podcast audio side plus YouTube.

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Speaker 1: And we had two fun shows last week actually just

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Speaker 1: to Scott all the AJC talk to Scott and I.

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Speaker 1: That was a fun conversation about a week ago. Justin's

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Speaker 1: great and then Grant McCauley, our friend from all kinds

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Speaker 1: of places around the Internet. Grant has like three, four

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Speaker 1: or five different jobs. He's kind of like me, but

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Speaker 1: even more very do a journal. He has his own podcast. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Grant was on with Steven and Sean full conversation there

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Speaker 1: so listen to those. They're still very over it right

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Speaker 1: now because nothing much has changed. Scott. I know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if you've been mining the content mines recently,

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Speaker 1: but breaking news everybody. No transactions of note in the

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Speaker 1: last few days.

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Speaker 2: It has been very quiet really. The only well really

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Speaker 2: two players Brad since maybe the last time you and

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Speaker 2: I did a show have signed over the last couple

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Speaker 2: him right now, Justin Verlander, who there was a little

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Speaker 2: bit of smoke with Justin Verlander on the internet. I

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Speaker 2: signed with the San Francisco Giants one year, fifteen million dollars,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember asking you on the show about Verlander

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Speaker 1: you're very interested in justin Verlander. Is that accurate to say, Scott,

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Speaker 2: you know, just for fun at this point, because he's

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Speaker 2: made a lot of money than sure, but for fifteen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on the same page there, But yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Hoffman's much more interesting. I think we all, probably the

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Speaker 2: When I saw it come across that Jeff Hoffman had

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Speaker 2: signed for three years and thirty three million, I tweeted it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, this is one of the few

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless he's now with the blue Jays and they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, another one buys the dust, so they say, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: We still have our list of guys that we're interested

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Speaker 1: But that was one that certainly was newsworthy. In the

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Speaker 1: newsworthy as well. The Braves settled their pre arbitration, you know,

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Speaker 1: But they're both pretty cheap. Kelnick signs for two point

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Speaker 1: And this feels like intant year ahead for Kelnick just

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Speaker 1: said it perfectly a moment ago it was an underwhelming

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Speaker 1: first season. I think there was enough from Kelmick that

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Speaker 2: But if it's another if it's just more the same

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Speaker 2: If it's more the same, if Kelnick gets four hundred

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Speaker 2: don't have to have that conversation. I hope he causes

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't like a massive news story Scott,

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Speaker 1: but like I thought, it was at least like, hey,

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Speaker 1: pretty matter of fact, like we're not gonna rush Ronald

435
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Speaker 1: and here are the reasons why kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, Alex alluded to

437
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: the fact that this knee taar for Acunya happened in

438
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Speaker 2: late May and the one in twenty twenty one was

439
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Speaker 2: mid July. It was about six weeks of difference. So

440
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: just because there's six extra weeks, if you will, built

441
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Speaker 2: in for Acunya's recovery, it felt like the Braves and

442
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Speaker 2: the medical staff are pretty set in stone that They

443
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Speaker 2: are not going to rush Ronald back in any way,

444
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Speaker 2: shape or form. They want to give him more than

445
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Speaker 2: the nine months of recovery time that he pretty much

446
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Speaker 2: had between tearing his knee in twenty one and then

447
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Speaker 2: when he was starting to really play in twenty two.

448
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Speaker 2: And that makes sense because it's just worth quickly reminding

449
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Speaker 2: folks that even though he was an ungodly MVP best

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Speaker 2: player in the world in twenty twenty three, Ronald struggled

451
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Speaker 2: a bit, at least for his standards. He was still

452
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Speaker 2: better than like seventy five percent of the league playing

453
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Speaker 2: on a knee that was not one hundred percent, and

454
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Speaker 2: maybe mentally Ronald didn't fully trust that knee when he

455
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Speaker 2: came back from the surgery, but he was not the

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Speaker 2: superstar that we love so much. And if it means

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Speaker 2: that you have to give him a few extra weeks

458
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Speaker 2: at the start of the year so he can really

459
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Speaker 2: build up strength and shake off the rust and all that,

460
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Speaker 2: it's something you have to do. You want to talk

461
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Speaker 2: about storylines for this upcoming season, the health of Ronald,

462
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Speaker 2: Acunya Junior and Spencer Streider, but especially in my mind,

463
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Speaker 2: to Kunya is really what's going to determine just how

464
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Speaker 2: good this team can be. And if you've got to

465
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Speaker 2: play it safe at the start, then you do it.

466
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Speaker 2: And you just hope you get more of a twenty

467
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Speaker 2: three Acunya than a twenty two Acunya whenever he starts

468
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Speaker 2: to play every day.

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Speaker 1: For sure, we're aligned there. And you know, having that guy,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, the outfield instability that they have. It's just

471
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Speaker 1: Harris and Akunya of guys that they're comfortable with right now,

472
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Speaker 1: comics to kind of the third guy and we'll see.

473
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you want to have the best version of Ronnie.

474
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Speaker 1: I understand that there are fans that I've seen say, like,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, other things other than being careful with Ronnie,

476
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Speaker 1: like all the things you see. You know, he makes

477
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. You got to play.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

479
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Speaker 1: But like, when you're that guy and he's your best

480
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Speaker 1: player and he still is the best player, you want

481
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Speaker 1: to have him be ready. And we'll probably do this

482
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Speaker 1: later in the spring about whether Ronnie is going to

483
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Speaker 1: run anymore, you know, all all of the questions about

484
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Speaker 1: like you know, stolen bases are sometimes overrated in general

485
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Speaker 1: as far as their value is concerned. But Ronnie may

486
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Speaker 1: not run anymore or may not run as much anymore

487
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Speaker 1: as he did, and that's maybe something we can discuss

488
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Speaker 1: with some nuance later on. But yeah, I backed the

489
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Speaker 1: bradge of this one. I think that's the right decision

490
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Speaker 1: to be careful with him. He's your best player and

491
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Speaker 1: you know him being out for an extra three weeks

492
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Speaker 1: is not gonna, you know, be a disaster if he's

493
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Speaker 1: back in himself or more likely to be himself when

494
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Speaker 1: he extra returns.

495
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Alex also confirmed or seconded or whatever word

496
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Speaker 2: you want to use that Spencer Strider should have a

497
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Speaker 2: pretty normal spring training, which he's to your point, Yes,

498
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Speaker 2: Strider on Corey Klueber's podcast Gosh a couple of weeks

499
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: ago now, Stryder said he expects to have a normal spring.

500
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Speaker 2: Alex said that they're expecting Strider to have a pretty

501
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Speaker 2: normal spring, and that's good news. We won't know for sure,

502
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're going to be holding our

503
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Speaker 2: breath every day and hoping that the velocity stays strong

504
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Speaker 2: and that Spencer is healthy and the elbow feels good.

505
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Speaker 2: But again encouraging to the fact that it feels like

506
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a fairly normal ramp up period

507
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Speaker 2: for Strider, and then we just have to hope that

508
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Speaker 2: he's healthy for most of the season and is able

509
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: to debut relatively early, especially in a rotation that has

510
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: quite a few questions right now.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a freak, which I mean in the best

512
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Speaker 1: possible way about Strider, so hopefully that benefits him this rehab.

513
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Speaker 1: But yeah, they'll be careful with him too, as it

514
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Speaker 1: should be. I guess the last week I mentioned about

515
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Speaker 1: Alex's interview is that this is not a surprise kind

516
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Speaker 1: of some fan service. I would say he was kind

517
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Speaker 1: of given a lay up about whether the Braves would

518
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Speaker 1: be having something big coming potentially in the next couple

519
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Speaker 1: of weeks and months, and Alex pretty clearly said yes

520
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: to that, although he did it in a very Alex way.

521
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Speaker 1: He couched it like you got to be the right

522
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Speaker 1: move available, all those things. I don't care about this Scott.

523
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Speaker 1: We can also make fun of the fact that he

524
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Speaker 1: was asked about moving Ozuna too the outfield again. And

525
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Speaker 1: what was the other thing. I think it was Alex

526
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Speaker 1: Bregman being signed and putting Riley back in left field,

527
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Speaker 1: something like that of some off the wall not very

528
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Speaker 1: practical questions. But Alex did a very Alex thing here

529
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Speaker 1: and just said, hey, doors open everybody, which just look.

530
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Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. But also what do you

531
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Speaker 1: take from that?

532
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: Not much?

533
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

534
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: I think clearly Alex Nthopolis cares just as much about

535
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Speaker 2: twenty five as he cares about twenty six and twenty

536
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Speaker 2: seven and twenty eight, And we could probably have a

537
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: really long, deep debate over if that is how a

538
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: general manager should operate. On one hand, it's a what

539
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: have you done for me lately? Sport? And you want

540
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: to win the World Series and win the division and

541
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Speaker 2: all of that every single year, and sometimes you have

542
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Speaker 2: to put a little chips into the middle of the

543
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Speaker 2: table in order to try to make that happen, even

544
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Speaker 2: if you are taking on risk that then down the

545
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: road maybe you then don't have as many chips to

546
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: push in whenever you need help. But I think if

547
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: we have known anything from Alex after seven years, he

548
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: is incredibly cautious. He's very calculated with his moves, and

549
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Speaker 2: it's funny for a guy who can talk for half

550
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Speaker 2: an hour and say a bunch of nothing. I did

551
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Speaker 2: kind of believe him in his answer that if the

552
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Speaker 2: right mega deal came along tomorrow, they would say yes

553
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Speaker 2: to it. But I'm just not sure that Megadeal is

554
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: going to be out there at this point when it's

555
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: a month basically a little more than that until pictures

556
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Speaker 2: and catchers show up.

557
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Speaker 1: I also believe him, and I also think that it's

558
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: very silly that a lot of fans, and I get

559
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: why people say this, a lot of fans are like

560
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: saying that Alex is just doing nothing, Like I can

561
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: promise you he's not just chilling. Alex and Thappos is

562
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: kind of a maniac I've heard many times of people,

563
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: and not in a bad way, but like he wants

564
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Speaker 1: his team to be as good as it can be.

565
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he's taking much time off. He might

566
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Speaker 1: have taken crispas day off. One of those things like

567
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: if you're a high level baseball executive, you have that

568
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: gene in you where you are very competitive and you

569
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: are not just chilling. I can assure you that now

570
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: we don't have to agree with the methods. I'm not

571
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: telling him that you do. And you're right, there is

572
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: that discussion to be had about whether there should be

573
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: more urgency right now given the the core is locked up.

574
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: You could say that gives you a long runway, but

575
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: also could say, hey you can push. You can said

576
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: the other way, like, it's time to go ahead and

577
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: go win with this core before they start getting older

578
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: and before they start getting less less ta control all

579
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: those things. But I do think that Alex, I believe

580
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: him too. Long story short, I think that he is

581
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: willing to do something. Justin said it. I think Grant

582
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: said it to. I think that something's going to happen.

583
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't think still, Yes, it's January elevens, we're talking now,

584
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I still don't believe the Breds are gonna do nothing

585
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: between non opening day. I don't think that's gonna happen.

586
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: Maybe it is. I'm it's non zero when you're this

587
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: late in the game. It's not a zero percent chance

588
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: that the Braves do nothing this winter. But I think

589
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: that they're still gonna do something, and we'll evalue with

590
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: that when it happens.

591
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: I suppose, Yeah, Yeah, there's still money. It's it's TBD

592
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: just how much money they're going to spend. But even

593
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: if they are going to be cheap asses and dodge

594
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: the luxury tax, there's still like twenty million dollars that

595
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: they can spend this winter. I think you and I

596
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: have made our point clear over the last couple of podcasts.

597
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: Spend the damn money. It's not our money, your printing cash.

598
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: Truest is parked, is truest Ist parked, truest is packed,

599
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: the battery is packed. You're in a world series window,

600
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: all of that. But I would agree with our guests

601
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Speaker 2: on the pod the last couple of days that if

602
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: they do truly nothing, I would be shocked. And I

603
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: guess we'll see. They have about a month and if

604
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: there is nothing after a month, Brad, we will do

605
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: our now almost infamous hypothetical show. But I still don't

606
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: think we're gonna have to do that episode at the

607
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Speaker 2: end of the day.

608
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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, let us get into the mailback because

609
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: we've exhausted our Alex and Topoloss takes for one day

610
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: question from Tucker who says, should the Braves think about

611
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: a six men rotation this season? And then he says,

612
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Speaker 1: I know it's hard to even find five starters. Yes

613
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: it is, but I've read a couple of things about

614
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: Alex Nitt liking to keep guys fresh. So before I

615
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: throw it to you back up the question. That is correct.

616
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: The Braves did a lot of things last year to

617
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: keep in particular Chris Sale and Ronald Lopez as fresh

618
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: as possible because Sale is old and injury plagued in

619
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: previous years. Lopez had been a converted reliever. All that said,

620
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: so does that mean six inportations sick guarantee? No, But

621
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Speaker 1: this is a pretty interesting idea, Scott, I don't know

622
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: something you want to talk about some point anyway.

623
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Speaker 3: So here we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question. And you know, would the

625
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Braves go to a six man rotation next season? You

626
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: mentioned they gave Sale and Lopez in particular every rest

627
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: day imaginable. I say that as somebody who had baseball

628
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: tickets to see Chris Sale pitch on a Monday night Arizona,

629
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: and as I am literally gassing up my car to

630
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: go to the game, they announced that Bryce Elder was

631
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: going to be making the start your guy to give

632
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Chris Sale another twenty four hours of rest. That's going

633
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: to be the case once again in twenty five, not

634
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: only with Sale and Lopez, but regardless of when Spencer

635
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Streider comes back. They're not going to want to push

636
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: Schreider like crazy coming off his second elbow surgery. Spencer

637
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 2: Schwellenbach was so good last season, and he's young. I

638
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: don't think they're necessarily going to want Schwellenbach to make

639
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: thirty two starts and throw two hundred and twenty innings

640
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: including playoffs and spring training and all of that, and

641
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: then you know, without knowing what they might add to

642
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: their rotation. There's other questions too, Ian Anderson, Grant Holmes.

643
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Even if someone like a J. Smith Schaver or Hurston

644
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Waldrip take a big step forward and are great, you're

645
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: not going to have those guys throw two hundred innings

646
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: as rookies. So it's kind of my roundabout way of saying,

647
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: I could see the Braves kind of tapping into their depth.

648
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 2: Maybe they won't, like officially go with a six man rotation,

649
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Speaker 2: but I could see a situation where they have Holmes

650
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: or Anderson or Smith Schover kind of lingering in the

651
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: bullpen in case they're needed. But then get away day

652
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: against the Marlins, Chris Sale is supposed to pitch, You

653
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: have a day off, the next day, you have one

654
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: of those young guys throw against Miami and take your chances,

655
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: and then you get another day of rest and you

656
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: push everybody back.

657
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: It may not be expressly announced as a Sixtpaan rotation,

658
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: but it might be one in practice, if that makes sense,

659
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: because what you just laid out all those times when

660
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: you might want to give Sale a day. And by

661
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: the way, this is moral hobby horse for me. But unquestionably,

662
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: the Braves pitching plan last season worked like unquestionably, I

663
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: know people sometimes I've seen this where they use what

664
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: happened with the pitching steps to talk about their their

665
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: win loss record. It was almost entirely because their hitting

666
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: was bad last year. Their pitching plan was basically flawless.

667
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Chris Sale won this young guys like they handled him

668
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: absolutely perfectly. Lopez same thing. So anyway, it's gonna happen again.

669
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: But what they did last year clearly worked on the

670
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: pitching side, so benefit of the doubt should be given

671
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: on some level to that. But you're right, I mean

672
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: they have they have other guys, and we've begged this

673
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: show enough. We we don't have to do it again

674
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: in full. But they do have a bunch of these

675
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: guys who are like fifth starter types that are not

676
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: exciting even Bryce Elder. We make fun of Brice Elder

677
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: a lot. Bryce Older is not as bad as even

678
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: we probably painting out to be sometimes, Like he's someone

679
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: who can make a start for you. He's not gonna

680
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: absolutely get you killed. And look Smith, Schaulver and Waldrip

681
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: in a lot and a lot of organizations would already

682
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: be in Penn in the rotation. Smith Shoalver, I know

683
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: he's bad in the playoffs. He came out of nowhere

684
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: how to pitch that day, But like he's a guy

685
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: who's still what twenty two years old? Whatever he is.

686
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Walterrup is preshure on pick like those guys might be

687
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: around Ian Holmes. You give all those names, and we

688
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: always give the number the Braves had to use what

689
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: fifteen stars last year, Like you're gonna have to do that.

690
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: But it may not be like hey, Smith says, we

691
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: are running a sixth me rotation. It might just be

692
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: like every time they don't have an off day, you

693
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: skip somebody and suddenly you're the shuttles back and forth.

694
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Pick your triple. A guy is I can start every

695
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: once in a while, once twice a month, so it

696
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: might not be every single time through the rotation. I'm

697
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: sure sometimes Sales gonna throw in four days rest, but

698
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: it might be occasionally he gets a day off, an

699
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: extra day, or maybe it skipping them entirely. That's gonna happen,

700
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: so there'll be flexibility. And this is, by the way,

701
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: standard practice now major League Baseball. Most teams do not

702
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: just throw the same five guys every fifth day. Let's

703
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: just not all season long. Injuries for sure, but also

704
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: just like maintenance and all those things. So I think

705
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: we're on the same page. It's just more of a

706
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: It may not be like a a big flatting a

707
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: sign that says we are running a six n rotation.

708
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: It might just be like pay attention to while things

709
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: are being unfolded, and you might see an extra guy

710
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: in there every once in a while, especially earlier in

711
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: the season pre Strider like it's it might just be

712
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: chaos for like three weeks. It might just be everybody's

713
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Ian and Holmes and wall dripping whoever. It

714
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: might be tryouts outside of the top three guys for

715
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: a little.

716
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Speaker 2: While, right, And I was curious. I googled six man

717
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: rotation twenty twenty five because I swore I had seen

718
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: something and sure enough. There's a bunch of results that

719
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: say the Red Sox are thinking about a six man rotation.

720
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have talked about a six man rotation. I

721
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: think even like the Cincinnati Reds or like a team

722
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: that's not supposed to be super good, we're talking about

723
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: a six man rotation. So it's not like the Braves

724
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: are the only ones thinking about it, or it would

725
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: be some revolutionary change the game forever if they try

726
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: to do it. But yeah, I mean, it's a long season.

727
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: Games in April count the same as games since September,

728
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: but you have to get to September. And if it

729
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: means that you give Sale a day off, even if

730
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: even if we do a podcast and complain about, oh

731
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: my god, Bryce Elder got cooked today because they decided

732
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: to give Sale an extra day of rest, if it

733
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Speaker 2: means you're going to have your horses healthy and refreshed

734
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 2: at the end of the season and hopefully into October,

735
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: it's probably something the Braves are going to do. And

736
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: even if the fan side of me kind of wants

737
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: to bang my head against the table, it's something that's

738
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: probably smart in the long run.

739
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and before we move on, I do understand before

740
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: someone yells at us that Chrisdale got hurt at the

741
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: very end of the season, I understand that happened. That

742
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: was not because he was skipped every once in a

743
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: while during the season. So I didn't forget that ruded

744
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Scott that we know that happened at the end of

745
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: the season. But uh, that was just bad timing, and so.

746
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: That was it was unbelievably bad timing. Bread for a

747
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: team now three years in a row, has had the

748
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: worst luck imaginable with starting pitching. Two years ago, Strider

749
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: blows his oblique like a really uncommon injury, and he

750
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: blows his oblique right before the end of the season,

751
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: gets shelled in the playoffs. Max Fried had the blister

752
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: pop up. Charlie Morton like popped the ligament in his finger.

753
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like and then Chrisdale gets back spasms

754
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: for like the first time in his life after being

755
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: totally healthy all year. Like it's like, come on, man,

756
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: I know that when you win a World Series, as

757
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: the Braves do, you bank a whole lot of karma,

758
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: all the baseball gods. You gotta have the baseball gods

759
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: on your side to win a World Series. But three

760
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: years in a row. Now, I think the Braves handled

761
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Sale perfectly in what happens, but freakin' back spasms take

762
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: him out of the playoffs. It's just like, come on, man,

763
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: Like when we're now far enough away from the World

764
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: Series that the Braves are do some good fortune in

765
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: September and October.

766
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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the cycle is now passed where the briss

767
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: could be lucky again. All right, last question before we

768
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: get out of here on a Saturday afternoon podcast comes

769
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: from Wyatt, who says I wanted you guys to wait

770
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: in on your preference between relief pitcher, starting pitcher, show

771
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: us up an outfield when Justin talks about it on

772
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. How would you prioritize those four needs if

773
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: you could only make one real edition? So if you

774
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: miss this, Justin picked relief pitcher, and I'll spoiler alert.

775
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't agree with Justin on this, which is fine.

776
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: We work at a them off either and have a

777
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: whole debate about it. We were trying to introview Justine

778
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: and it was a long podcast. That's why I didn't

779
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: jump in at that point in time. I think Scot

780
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: woul probably agree with me, but I knew someone was

781
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask about this, and we got a question. So

782
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: you're up first, Scott. I already gave my spoiler that

783
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: that's not reliever for me. But where would your priority

784
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: be if you could pick one to fix of those four?

785
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's interesting that we asked

786
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: two guys on the Braves beat, and I almost think

787
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: that Grant and Justin's orders were reversed, which is kind

788
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: of funny. And yeah, yeah, and you know what, Frankly,

789
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: that probably means that all three are very legitimate needs.

790
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: And let's hope that the Braves are not in a

791
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: financial situation where they can only add one of these

792
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: three positions and then have to, you know, sign a

793
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: reliever for two million bucks or sign another platoon back

794
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: for the outfield, or whatever the situation might be. For me,

795
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: I would take starting pitcher. I think it is probably

796
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: the most important spot for this team, because we saw

797
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: last year a good rotation can carry a dreadful offense,

798
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: and man, you just have to bank I think on

799
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: the Braves not running into historic bad injury luck once

800
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: again next season, and the fact this team won eighty

801
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: nine games last season with a terrible lineup that was

802
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: had Orlando Orcia batting fifth, and you know, career worst

803
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: years for some guys and injuries and all of that.

804
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: I would add a starting pitcher. I think it just

805
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: gives you so many more outs and flexibility to navigate

806
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: one sixty two. Maybe the Braves don't feel the same way.

807
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: Maybe they feel like they have enough internally and are

808
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: confident that Strider is going to be healthy. But I

809
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: would counter that, man, something happens God forbid to Chris

810
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: Sale or Strider is not himself, or even Lopez or

811
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: Schwellenbach get banged up very quickly. Only have two or

812
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: three guys in the rotation you feel good about, and

813
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: every year the Braves lose somebody in the rotation to injuries.

814
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: I feel like you're kind of playing fate with the

815
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: baseball gods if you don't add a starting pitcher here.

816
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: So that would be my order, probably starter than outfielder,

817
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: than reliever. But I did think Justin brought up very

818
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: good points about how thin this bullpen could be. I mean,

819
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: you want to play the injury game. What if Riyce

820
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: Ellyglacias gets hurt? Uh oh yeah, like capital letters? Uh

821
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: oh uh? So yeah, I mean I think the I

822
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: want all of them addressed. Brady is what of course.

823
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: No, that's that makes sense and we agree. And look,

824
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: we were banging the drum before it was cool as

825
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: well put it about starting pitcher. Even if Strider had

826
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: been back opening day with no issues, I still think

827
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: maybe to start a pitcher, and I still believe that

828
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: now we even maybe argument this winter that maybe they

829
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: even need too. I think it's probably gonna be one

830
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen so far, but hey could change,

831
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: but I think I would probably hmm. I'm not in

832
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: this internal debate right now, but whether I'm going to

833
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: say outfield or starter first, it's not reliever. I think

834
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: I have. I have relieve a third of that list

835
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: only because of our long standing belief, and I still

836
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: feel it now that relievers are just very voluable in general,

837
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: and bullpens can be hit and missed like they still

838
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: need help there. The last boss of amen is big.

839
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: It should be, it should be, it should not be understated.

840
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: But I think if I had to prioritize the value

841
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: of those three positions, I'm tempted to say outfield because

842
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: it's it's an everyday spot and that's the consistency of

843
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: that would be very helpful. I think I think I

844
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: might ultimately land with you on starting pitcher for one

845
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: tiebreaker reason, and that is that it is much easier.

846
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: And it's my experience watching this stuff that I trade

847
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: on line, I think you have that you have as well.

848
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: It's easier to paper over a corner outfield spot than

849
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: it is a rotation spot, especially at the deadline. For instance,

850
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: pitching is always expensive to trade for in July.

851
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: It just is. Yeah, we've seen Alex.

852
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Granted it's not sustainable to do this every year, but

853
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one outfield was entirely remade on the

854
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: fly with barket basement moves. Like you can find an

855
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: outfielder on the market in July, someone will be selling

856
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: a core outfielder you can trade for. You can't have

857
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: that same guarantee's part of picture, and once you're paying

858
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: a big time premium. So if it's all close, I

859
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: might lean to that, because we know, I justin said

860
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: it two on the show, what they did with us.

861
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: Alex always sets aside his little piggybank to go make

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Speaker 1: moves at the deadline. By the way, that I think

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Speaker 1: that's smart. People get frustrated with that. I think that's

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Speaker 1: very smart, because you're gonna have an issue that you

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Speaker 1: have to address the deadline almost certainly, so if you

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Speaker 1: have an if you have no money, if your boss

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Speaker 1: will say your number is this, and you're already up

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Speaker 1: against that number and you have no flexibility, like you're

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Speaker 1: kind of sol at that point in time, or if

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Speaker 1: you have that contingency plan, you build it in. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's close. I think it's defensible to say

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Speaker 1: any of the three spots. I think I might lean

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Speaker 1: to starting picture just because of that. I think it

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Speaker 1: might be easier to fix the of he spots for

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Speaker 1: cheaper later on. But I get again, I get any

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Speaker 1: of the arguments. I think justin while I would have

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Speaker 1: reliever last of the three, he met a good case.

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Speaker 1: I think great made a good case. You made a

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Speaker 1: good case, like all fix all three is the right answer.

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Speaker 1: But also, if you can only pick one, that's the question.

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Speaker 1: I think I probably just man so slightly leaned to pitching,

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Speaker 1: but not by a lot.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, Yeah, it's close, and you know

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Speaker 2: the outfield we talked about, what if there's an injury

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Speaker 2: in the rotation. What if there's an injury to Iglesias.

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Speaker 1: Dude, if there's another injury, I'm say Michael Harris gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: all bets are off everybody that won't be good, and

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Speaker 1: obviously Ronnie too. But Harris is the one that you

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Speaker 1: are expecting to be there from the first day of

890
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: the season, whereas Ronnie we know is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: there for a while. That's we know that going in now.

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Speaker 1: It is that great, No, but the brainers are banking

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Speaker 1: on that. We've we've heard them say that now multiple times.

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Speaker 1: If something happened to Michael Harris, you're well, you're probably

895
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Speaker 1: playing a guy who can't hit the baseball in centerfield.

896
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Speaker 1: Whoever you find, you can probably find somebody they could

897
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Speaker 1: play defense in centerfield. That guy probably can't hit, So

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Speaker 1: it's anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or you know, you're right, like Jared Keelnick could

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Speaker 2: play center and he is one of those wild cards.

901
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: A little bit of an adventure for him defensively in

902
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: centerfield last year. Yeah, I think he was fine overall.

903
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Speaker 1: He's a co He can fake it there, which is

904
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Speaker 1: more than most guys can do. Honestly, the fact that

905
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: they can do that is not a small thing. It's

906
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Speaker 1: actually does add value for Keelnick. But you're right, he's

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Speaker 1: not Michael.

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00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: Harris, right, And if we hope that kel Nick takes

909
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: a step forward, but what if he doesn't. If what

910
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: if he's striking out in a third of his plate

911
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: appearances and other than running into an occasional home run,

912
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Speaker 2: he's giving you nothing offensively, and you have he has

913
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Speaker 2: to play center field because nobody else can, and then

914
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Speaker 2: you're filling in left field, and god, lets hope Acuna

915
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: is healthy and right. So again, I mean, every team

916
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: in baseball has the same injury concerns. But as we

917
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Speaker 2: said here, with about a month before pitchers show up

918
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Speaker 2: to Florida, I think it's clear that there are three

919
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Speaker 2: very real needs. And I mean, heck, in the comments

920
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Speaker 2: on YouTube or tweet us or whatever you know, tell

921
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Speaker 2: us your order is what would you prioritize if you

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Speaker 2: had a budget of twenty five million dollars? What would

923
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Speaker 2: you target? Who would you target? I think it's a

924
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Speaker 2: it's an interesting discussion. And I guess the fact that

925
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Speaker 2: we're here in mid January and none of those questions

926
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Speaker 2: after two plus months of off season have passed, and

927
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Speaker 2: we still don't have answers to them. Is you know,

928
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Speaker 2: it's been painful, but let's for the sake of everyone, Brad,

929
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Speaker 2: let's hope that we get answers soon in the next

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Speaker 2: couple of days and weeks. Yeah, and we're still even

931
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Speaker 2: glossing over shortstop because I think we're all kind of

932
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Speaker 2: resigned to that one. We're not even including that one

933
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Speaker 2: on the list. But I know how scottis about that,

934
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Speaker 2: So I just was. We didn't forget about what shortstop.

935
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Speaker 2: I promise you everybody, it's just that we're kind of

936
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Speaker 2: more resigned to that one not being fixed. I think

937
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: it could be our c if I had to get

938
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Speaker 2: right now. But hey, maybe Alex will shock us all

939
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Speaker 2: and make a trade for a short stop because or

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Speaker 2: by the way, I'll sung Kim still available, Yeah, still

941
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Speaker 2: out there. If it is Orlando Rcia, Please, for the

942
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: love of God, let's hope the new hitting coach Tim

943
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Hyers can work some magic and at least turn Orlando

944
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: into a serviceable, more twenty twenty three type of player

945
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: than this past year. Because if he's if it's twenty

946
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: twenty four all over again, I might cease to exist

947
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: by mid May.

948
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Speaker 1: Just get him back to a ninety dou ROSSI plus.

949
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: That's all I ask you, not even one hundred, give

950
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: me ninety. Give me a slightly blow average hitter. That's

951
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: all you need from Orlando Arcia Gottam ninth. We'll be fine,

952
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: all right, Scott, that's a podcast on a Saturday afternoon.

953
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: Before we sign off here, anything to plug on your end?

954
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: And if we have new listeners, I'm sure we have

955
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: somebody new to the podcast. Where can they find you?

956
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: And all of your Indianapolis colts rants on Twitter?

957
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you know I have very random sports alliances, Brad.

958
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four was not a great sports year for me,

959
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: just full stop across the board. So hopefully better times

960
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: ahead in my sports fandom. But no, a big thank

961
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: you to everybody for tuning in. We continue to have

962
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: a lot of great support for the show, even in

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00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: the slowest and quietest of moments this winter. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you happen to miss either of those shows with

965
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Grant or Justin, be sure to check them out because

966
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: none of it has changed, and as we always do,

967
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Speaker 2: we'll continue rolling out shows here in the weeks to come,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully spring training will be here before we know it.

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Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five on socials if

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Speaker 2: you want to follow along.

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Speaker 1: There, Yes, please follow Scott. I am at bt rolland

972
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, slash x and blue Sky, all those kind

973
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Speaker 1: of places. We are as a podcast at amor territory

974
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, et cetera. Yeah, we'd like to

975
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: do coverage all year round. Some podcasts go dark in

976
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: the winter. We could have done that this winter so

977
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: far and would have been probably okay, but we're not

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Speaker 1: doing that. We we could have.

979
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: Not done a single show since like mid November and

980
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: be like, all right, Brad, nothing to talk about. Let's

981
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Speaker 2: keep let's keep going, Let's do them.

982
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, part of our appeals guys that we're sickos

983
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: and we don't go away for any length of time.

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Speaker 1: So please please subscribe to the podcast if you're new

985
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: to the If you're new the show, hopefully we can

986
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: vince you on this episode to smash the subscribe button

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Speaker 1: on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube. You want to watch us,

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Speaker 1: that's always great, and as Scott said, please leave comments

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Speaker 1: as well, like the videos you're watching it. We'll take

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Speaker 1: it all and we'll have more content coming up.

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Speaker 2: Soon.

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Speaker 1: We don't know exactly when, but I'm sure in the

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Speaker 1: next few days we'll have new, fresh content on the

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Speaker 1: podcast feed, so please stay tuned for that. For Scott,

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Speaker 1: I am Brad, we'll sign up right now. Thanks post everybody,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it, and we'll see you all next time.