1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm good to stuff. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: And welcome for today's activist around the world, we decided 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: to extend our coverage on indigenous activists with an Inuit, Haitian, 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: Taino artist, activist and so much more. Ciccu a Lulu, 6 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: which is a really fun name. Mm hmmm, I just 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: want to put that out there. It's very like melodious. 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: It is it is right, which is fitting because she 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: is a very amazing artist and it just fits her. 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: But she is currently in Canada, but Alulu graduated from 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: the University of Victoria with degrees in anthropology and Indigenous studies, 12 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: which is a fitting educational background for the amazing works 13 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: that she has done and continues to do. Not only 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: has she work to uplift Indigenous stories and voices and 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: preserve the cultural depth of her community, but she has 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: done it through her beautiful storytelling. Y'all, There's a lot 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: and there's so much to her. Even though we're focusing 18 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: on her specific artwork, we'll mention briefly about her activism, 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: but there's a lot there, so you should know, of course. 20 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: So let's get started. So from her site cicku Alulu 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: dot com. Cicku A Lulu Enuaitian Tao is an award 22 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: winning interdisciplinary artist, writer, and filmmaker from yellow Knife and 23 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Tea by the way of Miti, Metalic or in You 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: and Haiti. Her poetics and sorial work weaves the intimate 25 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: and intangible with archives and cultural materials to represence and 26 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: cistrial trajectories. And that disciplinary includes film, poetry, art, and 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: so much more. Everyone should go and look at her 28 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: side as well. Her work is incredible. She does have 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 2: an Instagram but it is private, so not sure why, 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: but you know private, so maybe you can request to 31 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: see her artwork. So this is also from her Wikipedia page, 32 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: which we know. We love to see a Wikipedia page 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: on women. They should be in there, they write. Ciku 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: A Lulu explores a wide range of themes throughout her work, 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: with a strong focus on reclaiming and revitalizing Indigenous knowledge 36 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: and traditions. She is particularly dedicated to addressing the patching 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: of ancestual gaps caused by colonialism, working to restore cultural 38 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: continuity and strengthened Indigenous identity. Her work also emphasizes land 39 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: based education, teaching from a cultural perspective that reconnects indigenous 40 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: peoples with their ancestral lands, languages, and ways of knowing. A. 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: Lulu has employed a diverse range of artistic techniques, including 42 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: traditional and contemporary practices such as intricate traditional beaedwork, evocative poetry, 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: handcarved stamping, and documentary filmmaking, which we are focusing a 44 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: bit more on just a Again, her work is gorgeous 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: and she is pushed to honor her people, her family, 46 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: and her community through her works. Her twenty twenty two 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: award winning film Spirit Andmulsion captured the beauty and history 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: of her family, specifically her mother, in such an authentic way. 49 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: The film, which was shot with a Super eight camera 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: and for those youngins, this is an old school camera 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: way back when, and you can tell the difference in 52 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: the artistry of it. But you know, for those of 53 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: us who were born in that era, we know it's okay. 54 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: But it follows her Teano indigenous mother in her life 55 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: as an activist and co founder of a bilingual indigenous 56 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: paper titled Indigena, which was published in North America, which 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: was one of the first, by the way to do so. 58 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: So this is from her website and the synopsis of 59 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: the film. A connection to My mother in the Spirit 60 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: World reactivates Teano culture and presence, revealing a realm unseen Meanwhile, 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: amidst a backdrop of flowers everywhere, and in act of sovereignty, 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: extends into the future. Filmed on Super eight and developed 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: by hand with plant medicines and botanicals, Spirit Emulsion evokes 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: a language for tane of filmmaking in relationship to the 65 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Earth and cosmos, breathing an ancestral connection into new form. 66 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, if you have a chance to go look 67 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: get any of the trailers, you should because it is gorgeous. 68 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: Her words and storytelling is amazing, and it is an 69 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: amazing backdrop to her digging into her mother's past who 70 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: has passed by the way. So here's what she told 71 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: CBC News about the film. My mom passed into the 72 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: spirit world about twenty two years ago, and I'm actually 73 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: working on a feature length documentary to represent her activism. 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: She was a very important indigenous activist back in the 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventies with the Red Power movement, both in the 76 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: United States and in dinn and day Tano. Indigenous people 77 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: are the people originally other Caribbean who encountered Columbus set 78 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: a Lulu, and she continues, my mom was one of 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: the early advocates to assert the tane of people still exist. 80 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: There's a moment now for Tana across all the Caribbean 81 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: and also the diaspora to regenerate our culture and traditions 82 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: and practices. There's a lot of energy there that my 83 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: mom helped to start back in her day that's actually 84 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: flourishing today. This whole process for me in the making 85 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: of the short was really like an opening prayer for 86 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: my practice as a filmmaker and my preparations to make 87 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: this feature link documentary about her. And it was really 88 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: beautiful because she continues to guide me. I feel her 89 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: presence in a daily way all the time. And yeah, 90 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: she is currently working on this film with a current 91 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: project which was awarded the grant from the Sun Dance Institute, 92 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: so it should be released I'm guessing the next year 93 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: and it's titled Indigena Again from her site, here's the 94 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: synopsis for that. To fulfill a dying wish, a filmmaker 95 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: retraces her mother's work as an activist and journalists during 96 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: the Red Power movement, bringing to light five hundred years 97 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: a day, no resistance, and igniting her own journey of reclamation. 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: So there is a trailer out for that. She's talking 99 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: to her uncle about her mom's work and the presence 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: of her mom in this movement and how how powerful 101 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 2: she was, how outspoken she was about the Taneal culture. 102 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Now we've kind of talked about them before. We talked 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: about them with our cross episode with Margaret Kiljoy. It's 104 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: a fascinating conversation and I love seeing the overall look 105 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: of the Talanal people coming to reclaim their culture as 106 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: because they were forgotten or at least silenced for a 107 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: long long time. And yeah, it does cross everywhere, so 108 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: it's hits like Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Haiti, all of those areas. 109 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: So it's really important that we talk about that because 110 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: we don't want to lose a whole group of people 111 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: to white supremacy, to anything, but especially that. So again, 112 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: the trailers alone are incredible. You should go and check 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: it out. And she's produced these films through her own 114 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: production company, Akia Films, which she writes is quote an 115 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: avant garde indigenous film production company centered on artistic, culturally 116 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: grounded storytelling, rich audio visuals, and sovereign narratives. The word 117 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: key means the other side in innukdata and also refers 118 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: to her mother's nickname. There's also a reference in her 119 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: father's culture saying that it kind of talked about the 120 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: mountainous waters. So like a lot of reference here and 121 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: on the site. They have several key things that is 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: important to them and their work, including their missions which 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: they write is this. Akia strives to create films that 124 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: lovingly and profoundly reflect the power of Indigenous stories and 125 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: people while actively fostering decolonization and resurgence by working in 126 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: a highly relational way, embedded in culture and community, engaging 127 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: appropriate protocols, ethics, processes and frameworks, creating innovative project strategies 128 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: that amplify grassroots work, collaborating with trusted partners, and centering 129 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: community care, consent, and narrative sovereignty, which I thought was 130 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: really important that we put that in there, because it's 131 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: such a label of ethics that we don't often see, 132 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: especially if people are trying to do Indigenous stories that 133 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: are indigenous, they don't understand all of that. I think 134 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: Alulu's work also goes hand in hand with her advocacy work, 135 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: including her work with Indigenous Nations, which calls for the 136 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: indigenous nations to become more independent and work through their 137 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: own government affairs and freedoms. So they're trying to separate 138 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: themselves from the colonization that still stands in place and 139 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: try to create their own country and nationalism, which I 140 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: think is really important. She also worked with Human Rights 141 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: Watch to help investigate the human rights and issues that 142 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: are occurring against the Indigenous women of Saskatchwan, so she 143 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: apparently did a lot of investigation for them as well. 144 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: And of course, again these are just a few. We 145 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: didn't highlight all of the works that she's continued to do. 146 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: There's so much. She's like many of our activists that 147 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: we talk about have so much under their belt that 148 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: it's it would be we would need to we need 149 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: to run it as an interview, honest, like, that's what 150 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: we really need to talk about all this work. But 151 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: with that, we wanted to talk about her poetry because 152 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: she is an amazing writer, has some amazing essays on there. 153 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to include so much more work, but I'm like, no, no, 154 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: everybody needs to go look at her site, and if 155 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: you need to spell our names s I k U 156 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: A L L l oo, you should definitely go and 157 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: check out her site. But this is one of the 158 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: poems that she has featured on there, and I thought 159 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: we would read it for you. And it's titled Interface. 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: There's a couple of words in here that I'm pretty 161 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: sure is indigenous in her language that I could not 162 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: find the pronunciation for. I feel like you might already 163 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: know this, and Christina is wonderful editing all of my 164 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: mistakes out, so apologies if it's wrong. It's really hard 165 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: to find if you know the correct pronunciation. Let us know. 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: We want to know, we want to be educated. So 167 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: this is the title interface, an interface between my ancestral 168 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: line and the world that seeks to eradicate us. I 169 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: so invoke adorn connection as protection through spiritual gaze, the 170 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: potent double space where future and past coalesce reveals the 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: invisible thread by which we span eternity. I'll reach back 172 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: to know you anana tinuk stitching tracing, embracing these spiritual 173 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 2: lines a prayer across time. I find you waiting for me, 174 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: smiling gently with wordless grace, you unearth the nuance of 175 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: our strength, quiet power from the realm, beyond the words 176 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: in sight, where truth is stark and fearless, armored in 177 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: our innate love, with arms of generations wrapped darkly around me, 178 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: I am free to celebrate our existence persistence with joyful, 179 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: sovereign madness. 180 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: I like that one, and. 181 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: There's so many more that you should check out. Yes, 182 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: if you have a moment, go look at our stuff. 183 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: I have a feeling that we will be coming back 184 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: to indigenous any on our list when it is released. 185 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely well in the meantime, listeners, Yes, please go 186 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: check out her work. And as always, if you have 187 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: any suggestions for this segment or anything else thoughts, resources, 188 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you. You can email 189 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: us at Hello at Stuffannever Told You dot com. 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