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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Monday. Chris ba as well got

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Speaker 1: me Jason Smith though with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 4: I'm a man, that's true and Mike Tomlin called him

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Speaker 4: a serial kill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, Paul, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, here's the thing, just really quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've seen that movie so many times in my life.

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Speaker 1: Midway through the fourth quarter, I knew how it was

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Speaker 1: gonna end. I knew when the Jets went for two

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Speaker 1: in the first half and didn't get it. I said,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna lose because of that. Cause again, I've seen

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Speaker 1: that Jets movie my entire life. The ending doesn't change,

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Speaker 1: doesn't change.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: Though the first two acts were much better than what

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Speaker 4: you've seen, yes most years, at least the first time,

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Speaker 4: just like Hollywood movies, though they couldn't finish the third

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Speaker 4: act and give you the big payoffs.

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Speaker 1: No, I am, I am I look, I am just

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Speaker 1: I am embarrassed that they lost like that to Rogers

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Speaker 1: to make him because Rogers wasn't great. He looked a

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Speaker 1: little bit better than he was, but it was still

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Speaker 1: the best game he's played in two years. And Rogers

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Speaker 1: gets to come back in and win a game, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just embarrassed that that's how it turned out. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm like Aaron bled, I have no time for moral victories,

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Speaker 1: which is what's why I love Aaron Glen.

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Speaker 3: I got no time for this.

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Speaker 1: I got time for the mistakes and all of this

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Speaker 1: and fumbles and all kinds of crazy ass stuff. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't don't have time for that. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: embarrassed that they lost. And as soon as as soon

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Speaker 1: as we got to the fourth court said, this is

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Speaker 1: how this game is gonna end. This is exactly this game.

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Speaker 1: And I knew Buzzle was gonna make that sixty yard

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Speaker 1: field for sure. They needed to rush it more. I

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Speaker 1: get that they kind of hung back a bit like, No,

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Speaker 1: you can't let guys kick it from sixty anymore, not

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Speaker 1: gonna make him. You don't want to have a penalty

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Speaker 1: and move it closer. No, you gotta get after that,

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Speaker 1: because this is how kickers are, right, And it was

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Speaker 1: still the Jets kind.

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Speaker 3: Of yeah, we're gonna go halfway after it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's playing super tow on an NFL. It all started

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Speaker 4: with Janakowski and it continues today, literally today.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have more on the Jets. Yeah, Rogers, Rogers, Rogers.

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Speaker 1: But obviously we jump right in tonight as we do

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Speaker 1: every Monday Monday Night football. Eleven and a half to

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Speaker 1: go on the third quarter. It is a seventeen to

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Speaker 1: This is a tale of two quarterbacks. Let's deal with

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Speaker 1: your guy first. Sure, Caleb Williams, who wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: but wait a minute. I thought he was so bad

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Speaker 1: He's making the right decisions. Everything is going fine. Not

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Speaker 1: It's rusty. You don't have a lot going on in

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Speaker 4: Ben Johnson's like, I don't know what happened last year,

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Speaker 4: And today there's been a couple of opportunities where it

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Speaker 4: I can outrun and evade would be tacklers. No, that

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Speaker 4: I gave him an interceptionless streak. But holding the ball

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Speaker 4: including that touchdown scamper, so all good things. The aggressiveness

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Speaker 4: first half is one of those that you raise the eyebrow,

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Speaker 3: Everything is fine.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, listen to the beginning of a new year

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Speaker 1: for Caleb Williams and the touchdown that really sparked all

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Speaker 5: Pressure pick it up by Tony Rolling left, Williams Scott

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Speaker 3: Turn bat bad for the inside, throw him up, will

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Speaker 3: you Babby touchdown? Touchdown? Bears hey yard touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Scrabble Bears Radio Network on the call, See, you were nervous,

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Speaker 1: nervous about me saying all these good things, and you said, oh,

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Speaker 3: I told you everything was gonna be fun. Well, I

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Speaker 1: If the NFL was about throwing the ball into a

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Speaker 1: small basket in preseason, Caleb Williams would not be a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I would recommend.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell you you know, for today.

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Speaker 4: I mean there were a couple of the throws as

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Speaker 4: I mentioned that, he would have had to put it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not been grant. I'd say he's not been great,

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Speaker 1: but he's been fine. He has moved the team, he's

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Speaker 1: not made mistakes. He looks, he looks confident back there

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. It's not like the last six games

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Speaker 1: He his his body language is a lot better during

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I'm not worried about it. It's a long,

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Speaker 4: As we've talked about, it's ay, but I'm I'm the

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Speaker 4: pragmatist in a world of hot take nonsense, right because

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Speaker 4: right now in Minnesota, I'm sure people are burning up

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Speaker 4: their keyboards with what they've seen from JJ McCarthy. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to him in a second. But for Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 4: right the referendum, especially with that story dropping this weekend

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Speaker 4: and all of the you know, different iterations and back

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Speaker 4: trying to back up as to what a train wreck

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Speaker 4: he was a year ago, and taking no responsibility as

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Speaker 4: a coaching staff that if he didn't play well today,

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Speaker 4: you add fuel to the fire, because both locally and nationally,

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Speaker 4: the wolves are at the door. For Caleb Williams, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what it translates to a win loss record,

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Speaker 4: but we know it's a process. Right He's back under center,

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Speaker 3: He's never done that before.

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Speaker 4: So to think that you're gonna go week one against

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Speaker 4: Brian Flores in this Minnesota defense, no, Harrison Smith, fine,

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Speaker 4: but that you're gonna go and you're gonna play perfect football. No,

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Speaker 4: you're you're not going to it's gonna be choppy at

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Speaker 3: So that's Caleb Williams. Everything is fine. Now how about

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Speaker 3: the other guy? Watch the snap, gets it full house

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Speaker 1: Out to the lefit pickoff down the sideline right to.

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Speaker 1: He is history baby, leaving the Vikings that tail rights

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Bears had a pick six per Nation right.

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Speaker 1: There was Bears Radio Network again JJ McCarthy tonight. Five

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Speaker 1: out of nine for forty eight yards and a pick.

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Speaker 1: These are up to date stats.

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Speaker 3: This is not half hit.

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Speaker 1: Refresh on my computer, no, no, no, long done of

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Speaker 1: those five out of nine for forty eight yards and

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Speaker 1: a pick. Now, you pick the school of thought that

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Speaker 1: cut this up right, I'll give you the sunny side

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Speaker 1: up part of it, right, which is not the part

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Speaker 1: I believe side part is, and he does. He looks

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Speaker 1: in well over a year, right, You're you're talking about

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Speaker 1: a long time, nearly almost two years. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: he's been under centered yues. He's had time preseason joint practices.

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Speaker 1: But it's different when the lights go on on Monday

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Speaker 1: you're doing it when everything is real. So there is that,

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Speaker 1: because there is some of that for JJ McCarthy, and

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Speaker 1: I see that sometimes in a little bit of his

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy came into the NFL as a can't miss guy.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's not good. Because mccarth Look, I told you from

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Speaker 1: the beginning, McCarthy is someone who was overdrafted. He was

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Speaker 1: never asked to win games at Michigan.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: I told you nobody's watched more Michigan games less thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm unless you coach the team, and even then

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Speaker 1: McCarthy was never asked to be the guy. He was

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. McCarthy was a good college quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But I can't tell you.

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Speaker 1: One game where I say Michigan won because of him.

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Speaker 1: And you can only try to try to make it

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say all the guy's terrible after this. But

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Speaker 1: understand that if this goes bad for the Vikings, it's

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Speaker 1: not just we got it wrong with a quarterback. It's

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Speaker 1: we had a guy and we said, no, we had

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Speaker 1: a guy who we were hoping JJ McCarthy would turn into.

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Speaker 1: We had a guy with thirty five touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: And four thousand and we went thirteen and four last year,

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Speaker 6: and we said, yeah, you know, we have this other

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just with thirty five touchdowns, four thousand yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the last two games kind of were in his go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you saw the whole season was I'm a Pro

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Speaker 1: And suddenly it's all these guys, all these we could

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Speaker 1: where you're at right now. Okay, your leading receiver is

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Speaker 1: the first half. That's it, justin Jefferson. One pass on

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Speaker 1: and again it's doubly worse because of the fact you

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Speaker 1: down in the playoffs. I raised my hand here you

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Speaker 1: just put it on Sam Donald. Well that's the guy

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Speaker 1: to point a finger at Kevin O'Connell except for this guy.

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Speaker 1: In terms of game plan, down distance and how they

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Speaker 1: what Ben Johnson has done? And I know Darisaw is

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 4: How did you not figure out a system whereby you

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Speaker 4: found some easy throws from early right Dennis Allen is

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Speaker 4: no slouch. Right, As much as we talk about Brian

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Speaker 4: Flora's from the defensive coordinator angle, Bears have done a

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Speaker 4: good job of getting pressure and getting him off his

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Speaker 4: didn't set up any easy throws getting Jefferson involved early, right,

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Speaker 4: you had? The pick six was a pass intended for Jefferson,

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Speaker 4: clearly miscommunication, right, he's expecting him to stop instead, he's

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Speaker 4: five yards up the field and it's an easy run

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Speaker 4: You don't have enough of a run game just yet.

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Speaker 4: Jordan Mason's had a couple of nice runs. Aaron Jones

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Speaker 4: is a decent receiver out of the backfield still, but

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Speaker 4: you haven't done anything to make it easy for him.

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Speaker 4: And with Sam Donald and those numbers from a year ago, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's it's a much less vocal crowd than

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Speaker 4: what would happen in Chicago if the Bears came out

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Speaker 4: in Stone. But it still needs to be asked, right, right, guy,

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Speaker 4: how quickly things get get torn asunder and whether the

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Speaker 4: genius tag starts to come off O'Connell a little bit, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's it's always worse we do. We had a

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Speaker 1: we found a way to convince ours let's not keep him.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with the guy that hasn't really thrown a

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Speaker 1: pass for us. No, no, he's our guy.

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Speaker 3: Like you think.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we just really outthink ourselves. And again it's a

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Speaker 1: but JJ McCarthy, they have seventy seven yards of offense. Man,

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Speaker 1: this is midway through.

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Speaker 3: The third quarter.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is midway through the third quarter. Seventy

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Speaker 1: seven yards of all I mean, maybe the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is I'll get arch Manning. Can you image up the

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Speaker 1: we have JJ McCarthy. We'll let somebody else take arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: Now that would be interesting.

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Speaker 4: Now you're really creating chaos theory here after two and

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Speaker 1: I love that we're gonna draft Caleb Downs instead and

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Speaker 4: Right now, we're talking absolute chaos theory here. We're not

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Speaker 4: even through the third quarter here. But but it does

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Speaker 4: raise the interesting point of you know, look, I always

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Speaker 4: talk about the dollar cost average and give your quarterback position.

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Speaker 4: McCarthy's a cheap option year two of his rookie deals,

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Speaker 3: See what I did there.

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Speaker 4: I tried to prop him up, and at the same

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Speaker 4: outside of JSN, I don't think we saw another receiver.

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Speaker 4: They were all, you know, invisible. Yeah, they were like

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Speaker 3: He's like marble thing.

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Speaker 1: He's like the lonely end from like you know, Army

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Speaker 1: in like nineteen forty six. He's the one guy we

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Speaker 3: He's just running running wind sprints. So all of that.

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Speaker 4: But when you do the dollar cost averaging, could have

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Speaker 4: kept them around. Not that you love the situation if

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Speaker 4: and eventually someone's gonna call come calling. The Vikings had

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to try to keep Sam around, would.

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Speaker 3: Have had to pay a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: I get it.

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Speaker 4: But you have a guy where you have proof of

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Speaker 4: he can help McCarthy alone.

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Speaker 3: Or could have franchised him. But that's the point, right,

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Speaker 3: we could keep cut both of you. I could have

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Speaker 4: You could have done it for a year, and again

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Speaker 4: he becomes a valuable trade ship if and when McCarthy

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Speaker 4: gets a year. Now, obviously we are really going hot

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Speaker 4: take theory here towards the end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: But hey, that's what we do. Man. It's Week one

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Speaker 3: of the National Football League season.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: He just this is like a nightmare, isn't it. It

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Speaker 1: just keeps getting worse and worse. That's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: Watch go, This is like a nightmare. It just keeps getting.

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Speaker 3: Worse and worse. This is just of the year for

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Speaker 4: You go seven innings and what's even more demoralizing is

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Speaker 4: he only had two strikeouts, so you did actually get bats.

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Speaker 1: Two ball, but you got nothing completely completely it's it's terrible,

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Speaker 1: absolutely terrible, absolutely terrible. I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing I can say, like, oh, yeah, you just

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Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow. It's like they're just punching a time clock.

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Speaker 1: Wait until the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, help me threw a shutout inning, though, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's amazing. Yay, Horis six stripes. I mean he

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Speaker 3: had an eight pitch inning. I mean, look at him. Hooray, Yes, yay, hooray, hooray.

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Speaker 3: I try Jason, Yeah, hooray. How did it feel? Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know how it felt.

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Speaker 1: It felt like I was really excited to watch Steve

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Speaker 1: Angelly play quarterback tonight for Syracuse. That's how it felt

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Speaker 4: I mean, there aren't many bigger fus on a Friday

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Speaker 3: Well, look it is, it's also set. Look what did

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Speaker 3: I harmon? What the Giants tonight? Will be great as

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Speaker 3: a Dodger fan, that'll be awesome. But it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: top this. I mean, no, no, no, but I mean

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Speaker 3: but look, but I mean, but Harmy, what what if

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Speaker 3: I told Harmon all week?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You know, bet against us tomorrow, forget it where there's

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Speaker 1: no way we're for you. We are absolutely cooked. I

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Speaker 3: Harmon.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're getting I hope you're You're just doubling

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Speaker 1: every time you bet against the Mets, and you're winning

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Speaker 1: and winning and win winning.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the key is just knowing that eventually they'll

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Speaker 4: you've got to know, Yeah, jump off that.

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Speaker 1: Jump off for Nolan McLain and then jump back on.

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Speaker 1: That's all jump off for Nolan McLain, and then you

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Speaker 4: That's like you're you're taking some solace in the fact

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Speaker 4: that your guy off of well, it's been an interesting

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Speaker 4: week right of all your sporting events, but you're getting

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, they did give up twenty four to Colgates,

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Speaker 3: so that's yeah, but that's it. But it was like

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Speaker 3: thirty eight three at half, it was over. It was over.

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Speaker 3: It's clearly he didn't want to show anything else on defense.

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Speaker 3: Come clearly TJ.

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Speaker 1: Steve Peanut, Butter and Jelly maybe the next great quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Syracuse history. DJ, I mean, can you recreate that

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Speaker 1: because if so, you could just take over all together.

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Speaker 3: He got the voice of Cadence. And and yeah, I

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Speaker 3: I might be, but I really how you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me and the Palgasol guy we go and do

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Speaker 1: autographs and say that, Hey, do do your berman?

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Speaker 3: Okay, sure, here you go. Hey, will you do me

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Speaker 3: a favorite? Can you put my name in a bermanis?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure? What's your name? Kid? I could do it

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Speaker 4: Well, you can really rake on cameo one of those services,

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Speaker 4: you know, Oh, man, send it in. I'll get your

437
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Speaker 4: name into a song from the seventies, you know.

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Speaker 1: And the thing what makes this worse tonight, right is

439
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Speaker 1: is this is this is really heavy stuff. But it's

440
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Speaker 1: and and and But I don't think that it's gonna

441
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Speaker 1: be something that is is uh, I don't think it's

442
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Speaker 1: be something to even in question when he's done. Okay,

443
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Speaker 1: because now I watched this tonight, watch the Mets. Just

444
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Speaker 1: give everything away, Fine, give it away, give it away,

445
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Speaker 1: give it but you can give him a video tribute

446
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Speaker 1: in this Oh yeah, and that was nice, right, They

447
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Speaker 1: played simple Man for him. He tipped his hat to

448
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Speaker 1: the crowd. It was nice, No, it was nice. It

449
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Speaker 1: was he knew, he goes man, I'm gonna set these

450
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Speaker 1: guys down so easy, And he did right, so you knew.

451
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Speaker 1: But tonight the Yankees and the Red Sox. Red Sox

452
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Speaker 1: batting right now in the bottom of the ninth Yankees

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Speaker 1: winning for to one. This is Apple TV's Game of

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Speaker 1: the Night. Aaron Judge hit a home run tonight out

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Speaker 1: of Fenway Park. And I don't mean deep at it.

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Speaker 1: He hit it over the Green Monster, over the stands,

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Speaker 1: on the top of the Monster, and out of Fenway Park.

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Speaker 3: It was over the Draft Kings side, I mean. And

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Speaker 3: that's a big ass sign that they put out there.

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Speaker 1: Can I get a Draft Kings pick six? And Aaron Judge,

461
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Speaker 1: h it's a home over your Draft King side. Now,

462
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Speaker 1: it's not just that home run, but it's the fact

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Speaker 1: that it was home run three sixty two for his career.

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Speaker 1: Now he has broken the tie for fourth place with

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Speaker 1: Joe DiMaggio on the Yankee list for franchise all time

466
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Speaker 1: home runs. Right, the guy had two home runs last

467
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Speaker 1: night at Yankee Stadium as they mark the anniversary of

468
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Speaker 1: September eleventh. Second pitch of the night tonight from Lucas Giolito,

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Speaker 1: I think it was four hundred and seventy five feet.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely crushed it. The thing to think about and

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Speaker 1: how heady is this is. Look, there's lots of great

472
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Speaker 1: baseball teams with all kinds of great history, right the

473
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Speaker 1: Dodgers here in LA, all kinds of stars, you just

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Speaker 1: name them.

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Speaker 3: But throughout Major.

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Speaker 1: League Baseball history, no team is more decorated in stars

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Speaker 1: and in drama and in life and in championships than

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. And when Aaron Judge finishes his career, Okay,

479
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Speaker 1: he's thirty three right now. You see the level he's

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Speaker 1: still playing at right now, When he finishes his career,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna say, Aaron Judge had one of the top

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Speaker 1: five careers in Yankee history. And you're gonna say maybe

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Speaker 1: it's third. I mean, who's ahead, because you talk about

484
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Speaker 1: the guys, it's Ruth and Gerrig, Mantle, DiMaggio and Jeter. Right,

485
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Speaker 1: these are the guys, these are the five. These are

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Speaker 1: guys you've talked about the You and I have grown

487
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Speaker 1: up and saying their names all the time. These are

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Speaker 1: five of the biggest players to ever play the game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we have most of a history with Jeter because we

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Speaker 1: just saw his career.

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Speaker 3: We saw all the.

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Speaker 1: Clutch moments, three thousand hits, the captain, the two way

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Speaker 1: play that he had throughout his his time as a Yankee. Right,

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Speaker 1: so Jeter, But DiMaggio, Mantle, Garygan, Ruth.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: There's your top five Yankees of all time, your top five.

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Speaker 1: And by the time Aaron Judge is done, like, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be comfortably in the top five. And you're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: which Yankees do we knock out?

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Speaker 3: Like, do not?

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Speaker 1: Do we really knock out Joe d fifty six game

502
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Speaker 1: hitting streak, Well, it might have a better career. He's

503
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Speaker 1: gonna have one hundred and fifty more home runs than

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Speaker 1: Joe Demagio did. Now, Jody did lose three of his

505
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Speaker 1: years to war service, which would have been more horme runs.

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Speaker 1: But I can't count what he would have done when

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Speaker 1: he didn't. But you're gonna look at Judge's career and go, man,

508
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Speaker 1: the numbers, the impact, the war, everything compares incredibly well,

509
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Speaker 1: if not better, than three of those guys on the list, Right,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have better number than Jeter. But Jeter's a

511
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Speaker 1: better two way player, and he was the captain of

512
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Speaker 1: the team the World Series. I think you might go

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Speaker 1: at the end to go, okay, so it was Jeter

514
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Speaker 1: and Ruth, right, because it's hard to it's hard to

515
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Speaker 1: cut up seven hundred and fourteen home runs in the

516
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Speaker 1: Championships and the guy that really built major League Baseball

517
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Speaker 1: and say, yeah, no, he's better than Ruth. But I

518
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Speaker 1: think you're gonna say at the end, like Judge might

519
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Speaker 1: be third, like that, that's the kind of career that

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Speaker 1: he is having. He's gonna finish one of the top

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Speaker 1: five careers all time for the most decorated franchise in baseball.

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Speaker 1: And you think about that for a game that's been

523
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Speaker 1: played for one hundred and fifty years, and for one

524
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Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven of them, the Yankees have been

525
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Speaker 1: the evil Empire. Oh, they spent five dollars on that player.

526
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Speaker 1: We can't spend five dollars here in eighteen ninety seven.

527
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Speaker 1: I know we're the Highlanders, but we can't spend where

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Speaker 1: do they have that five dollars from? I don't know

529
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Speaker 1: they have they have deep, deep pockets. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where they're going.

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Speaker 3: That's where that's where Judge's career is headed right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's an insane run that he's on right

533
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Speaker 4: averaging one one hundred and seventeen rbi per season over

534
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Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty games. The monumental home runs and

535
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Speaker 4: in a day of highlights, high Adam Silver that you

536
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: just see this constantly, and when you have a home

537
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: run like this, I mean it just cuts through everything.

538
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Speaker 4: You can have a full slate of games, full slate

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Speaker 4: of college football games. That's winning tonight when you're hitting

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Speaker 4: the ball to the low and four seventy five, let's

541
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Speaker 4: not kid ourselves. I mean, that's a terrible estimation of

542
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Speaker 4: how far that ball went. But fine, we'll run with it. Look,

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Speaker 4: you're never getting past Joe d for me, because as

544
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Speaker 4: much as we look at the statistics, I mean, you

545
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Speaker 4: got the fifty six games streak. Maybe if you and

546
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Speaker 4: Walt are able to put together a fifty seven, I

547
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Speaker 4: mean he'll fall in my estimation because it's you know,

548
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Speaker 4: you and Walt in the beat the Street contest. But

549
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Speaker 4: he also measures up better than anybody else. According to legend,

550
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Speaker 4: he was married to Marilyn Monroe and he was mister Coffee.

551
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Speaker 4: There are all things near and dear to my heart

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Speaker 4: that no matter what Aaron Judge does, he's not top

553
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Speaker 4: in that.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's just not.

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Speaker 4: So I mean that like in terms of pop culture

556
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Speaker 4: and arching dominance at the war effort, and it's really

557
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Speaker 4: tough to topple. But I mean, you didn't even get

558
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Speaker 4: down to Yogi Bearra, who's got more rings than anybody

559
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Speaker 4: in the that we outside of Bill Russell.

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Speaker 3: When you do photo shoots.

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Speaker 4: With those guys next to each other, right and some

562
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Speaker 4: of the others that we grew up watching that, you know,

563
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Speaker 4: he always wondered what was gonna happen with their careers.

564
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Speaker 4: Right Mattingly ended up having the bad back and it

565
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Speaker 4: stopped what was an amazing first decade for him. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: for Aaron Judge, I mean he captivates our imagination of

567
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Speaker 4: what this guy still has on the books because we

568
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Speaker 4: still have how many more years on his contract all

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Speaker 4: the way through twenty thirty one. So in pinstripes and

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Speaker 4: with those short porches, when you talk about Yankee Stadium,

571
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Speaker 4: you talk about going up and over the monster. We're

572
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Speaker 4: just getting started on where those numbers are right projected out.

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Speaker 4: We're talking some record breaking stuff and a guy that

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Speaker 4: doesn't have to say much to be one of your

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Speaker 4: faces of the game, like his counterpart for those years

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Speaker 4: down in Los Angeles, in the muted city of Anaheim.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna have a career war most likely

578
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Speaker 3: of what's that, Jason, We can't hear you. He's gonna

579
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Speaker 3: have two shots, two shots, strikes out fety too.

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Speaker 6: Accent is scoreless second inning, his first strikeout tonight, his

581
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Speaker 6: first strike out on this building in another uniform, no

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Speaker 6: more time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know it's a it's a doubly tough night.

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Speaker 1: First struck out a Met one more time. After that,

585
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Speaker 1: the Mets lost a game one more time. No, that's it, man,

586
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 3: He owned your ass. Dude. Here.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, Is it really that difficult at

589
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Speaker 1: this point? I mean, come on, man, I throw seventy

590
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Speaker 1: I could have run out there in probably five inning.

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Speaker 1: I give you a quality start six innings and three

592
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Speaker 1: runs are less. I could give you that against the

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Speaker 1: Mets right now.

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Speaker 3: Told you three months ago, Smith, what happened to King Tong.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna make this like when Many Burn said, I

596
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Speaker 4: bring him before you in chains. He's no longer the

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Speaker 4: big heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: Did you just say Tong Tong sahor you're gonna be yes?

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be a prophet, man, He might as well

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Speaker 1: be hitting clean up. It doesn't It wouldn't do any

602
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Speaker 1: worse than he did tonight. That's for sure a prophet, yes, man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

606
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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: Did our next guests see this coming? Nobody better to

608
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Speaker 3: talk to right now?

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Speaker 1: Then the only Todd Furman on Twitter at Todd Ferman,

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Speaker 1: former Rods maker at Caesar's.

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Speaker 3: Check him out now CBS.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere you need a line, you need numbers, Todd Furman

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Speaker 1: has them for you.

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Speaker 3: What's happening, man? How are you tonight?

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Speaker 7: I am doing all gentlemen.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you guys are holding up in Maybe more importantly,

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Speaker 5: there aren't a ton of UCLA fans that are listening

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Speaker 5: in late tonight because there's thirteen of them in attendance

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Speaker 5: at Pasadena for this game against New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I like your tweet from a couple of minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: win or lose, UCLA will never schedule a Mountain West

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Speaker 1: opponent again.

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Speaker 5: I think you had to right about that, ton I mean,

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Speaker 5: it ain't gonna help recruiting if you're gonna lose on

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Speaker 5: the road to UNLV and you're gonna follow it up

626
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Speaker 5: and loses more than a two touchdown favorite home against

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Speaker 5: New Mexico. But early returns on the Nico investment or

628
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Speaker 5: the de facto trade straight up for Joey Aguilar. Not good, gentlemen,

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Speaker 5: not good at all.

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Speaker 1: So Todd, looking at tonight, we'll we'll get into tomorrow

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Speaker 1: in a second. Here here's Colorado and Deon Sanders. They fall,

632
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Speaker 1: they get thumped by Houston. I look at what's going on,

633
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: and I see Dion Sanders with three quarterbacks playing tons

634
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: of tons of minutes so far the first three games.

635
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Speaker 1: I just go, man, I don't know that betting against

636
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Speaker 1: Colorado every week this year isn't the right.

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Speaker 3: Thing to go.

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00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: Like betting on them last year was good, Chador was

639
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Speaker 1: pretty good. But wow, man, they have problems right now.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of money that came in against

641
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Speaker 5: Colorado from their regular season win total perspective, we thought

642
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: that there was going to be some uncertainty around the

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Speaker 5: quarterback position, but I don't think anybody imagined in their

644
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 5: wildest dreams that Shadoor handing the baton would be to

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Speaker 5: three potential players. We knew that Juju Lewis had lost

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Speaker 5: a little bit of his luster and recruiting when he

647
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Speaker 5: decommitted from USC elected.

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Speaker 7: To go to Colorado.

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Speaker 5: Then we got the full experience of the Caden Salter display,

650
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Speaker 5: the transfer from Liberty, and tonight you get a third stringer,

651
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 5: a great storyline, but at the same time, look, you're

652
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Speaker 5: a backup to Shador and a third stringer for a reason,

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Speaker 5: a little bit limited physically. But tonight it was more

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Speaker 5: about the injuries for Colorado's defense. They just had no

655
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Speaker 5: answers to get off the field. The key junctures against Connor,

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Speaker 5: Wegman and company.

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Speaker 3: Todd, We'll look at some of the big games on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Some of them are walkovers, you know, the twenty or

659
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Speaker 4: twenty five point spreads where we got to find some

660
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Speaker 4: noise there. But Florida LSU seven point line forty seven

661
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Speaker 4: and a half Lagway trying to go to the on

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Speaker 4: the road at.

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Speaker 3: The number three team in the land. Can he find

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Speaker 3: a way to get it done.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you're going to get a Desker Florida team,

666
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Speaker 5: no doubt after what we saw last weekend when you

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Speaker 5: lose outright to an in state program as a seventeen

668
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Speaker 5: and a half eighteen point favorite. But I think this

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Speaker 5: Florida team has a lot of questions that have to

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Speaker 5: be answered. And you mentioned DJ Lagway. He is, no

671
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Speaker 5: doubt the headliner, but you dig into some of his

672
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Speaker 5: numbers against FBS opponents and while it's a short sample size,

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Speaker 5: it's not exactly a ringing endorsement for what was supposed

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Speaker 5: to be an electric talent. I'm not as optimistic that

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Speaker 5: he's one hundred percent despite some of the reports coming

676
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Speaker 5: out of Gainesville, and when you look at the task

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Speaker 5: they have in front of him, I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: an LSU team that has a big win on their

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Speaker 5: resume already against Clemson, but does have some red flags

680
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Speaker 5: in their own right and questions to be answered, most

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Speaker 5: notably can they.

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Speaker 7: Run the football.

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Speaker 5: I mean, their top running back Cayden Durham last week

684
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Speaker 5: against Louisiana Tech, thirteen carries subs thirty yards. So for me,

685
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Speaker 5: both these teams a lot to prove. Florida season kind

686
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Speaker 5: of hanging in the balance, and we'll see if LSU

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Speaker 5: can maintain their metal as a potential top five team

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Speaker 5: and a legitimate national championship contender.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Todd, If I said to you tomorrow, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's your best value bet?

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Speaker 3: What do you like the most on the board tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: What would you give me? What's the sample?

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Speaker 7: You know what.

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Speaker 5: It's a number that's moved a little bit, But I

695
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Speaker 5: still think there is some opportunity, and I think Miami

696
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: makes a statement against USF. But the angle that I

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Speaker 5: would tell people to look to try and take at

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Speaker 5: this point with the full game number north of seventeen,

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Speaker 5: to look at the Hurricanes in the first half, he

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Speaker 5: should be able to find them widely available in that

701
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Speaker 5: minus nine nine and a half ten range. USF has

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Speaker 5: actually gotten off the slow starts, despite pulling off upsets

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Speaker 5: against Boise State and Florida to start the season. But

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Speaker 5: this is a different animal. I mean, Miami has NFL

705
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Speaker 5: caliber talent along that defensive line and in their offensive

706
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Speaker 5: line room. Carson becks starting to get more comfortable leading

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Speaker 5: this offense for the Hurricanes, and I just wonder what

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Speaker 5: USF has left in the tank. After two very physical

709
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Speaker 5: and emotional football games. I think the Canes get off

710
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Speaker 5: to a quick start. They can name the score and

711
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Speaker 5: may put up a crooked number similar to what they

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Speaker 5: did last year.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio Jason Spitshaw with Mike Carman. Todd Furman's

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Speaker 4: our guest live from Las Vegas for everything He's got

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Speaker 4: popping at Todd Furman where you find him in the

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Speaker 4: Twitter verse, always kind enough to join us, give us

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Speaker 4: some insights as to where money is moving, and some

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Speaker 4: leans as he goes through the numbers. So Todd, let

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Speaker 4: me ask you after last night, how much money came

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Speaker 4: flying in on the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, we may as well plan the Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl parade up there Atlantoa, right on Lobardi Drive, given

723
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Speaker 5: all the buzz, and look, I can understand the optimism.

724
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Speaker 5: I mean, given how well the defense has played against

725
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Speaker 5: two teams that won twelve plus games a season ago.

726
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Speaker 5: They clamped down, They've prevented the explosives, and Jordan Loves

727
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Speaker 5: look significantly healthier leading this Packers offense that has a

728
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Speaker 5: multitude of weapons, so it's kind of picking your poison

729
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Speaker 5: as an opposing defensive coordinator. The emergence at Tucker Craft

730
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Speaker 5: really gives them a chess piece. They can move all

731
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Speaker 5: around the board, but six and a half to one

732
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Speaker 5: or seven to one as low as I've seen them

733
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Speaker 5: at some books, not nearly enough meat on the bone

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Speaker 5: to try and tie up money this far in advance,

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Speaker 5: knowing that the Packers are still going to have their

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Speaker 5: challenges and when it comes to getting through the NFC,

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Speaker 5: whether it's the Philadelphia Eagles or somebody else to emerge.

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Speaker 5: Good team, but a lot to prove still for the

739
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Speaker 5: Lambeau Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of the Eagles game of the Week on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Kansas City. Kansas City is likely going to

742
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Speaker 1: be without Xavier Worthy already, no Nut Rushie Rice, no

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard for the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: What do you like in this one interesting game? I

745
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Speaker 5: think it loves a little bit of luster for all

746
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Speaker 5: the reasons you just outlined there, Smith about some of

747
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Speaker 5: the key contributors, especially offensively for the Kansas City Chiefs

748
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Speaker 5: that won't be out there suddenly. Patrick Mahomes has to

749
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Speaker 5: look a little bit further down the roster and lean

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Speaker 5: on players like Juju Smith, Schuster, Tykwan Thornton, and Hollywood Brown.

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Speaker 5: This would have been great if this was five seven

752
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Speaker 5: years ago with a couple of those receivers. A little

753
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Speaker 5: bit more problematic now, but Philadelphia at the same time,

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Speaker 5: for me at least, left a lot to be desired. Offensively,

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Speaker 5: they weren't exactly dynamic in their season opener against the

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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys, and from a defensive standpoint, I think Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: still has some things that they have to work out

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Speaker 5: in the second and third level. So if I'm getting

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Speaker 5: involved in the game, I'm looking at Kansas City as

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Speaker 5: a short home underdog and making a slight case to

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Speaker 5: go under the total. But no reason to panic either way.

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Speaker 5: Even if the Chiefs were to start the season zero

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Speaker 5: to two, still plenty of opportunity for them to get

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Speaker 5: themselves right back in the thick of things in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to the NFC North with a battle

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Speaker 3: in Detroit.

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Speaker 4: Two teams stinging off of Week one losses hasn't cut

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Speaker 4: through that key number just yet, but Lions six and

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Speaker 4: a half point favorites a lot of jaw jacking going

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Speaker 4: on here between Saint Brown and Ben Johnson. A lot

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Speaker 4: of saltiness. How does it come out?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You wonder sometimes if Ben Johnson has the edge over

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Speaker 5: a team that he saw every day in practice and

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Speaker 5: knows that offensive personnel inside and out, or if it's

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Speaker 5: Detroit Lions scheming for their former offensive coordinator, knowing his

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Speaker 5: tendencies and what they can kind of expect in this spot.

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Speaker 5: Looks the Bears an unenviable spot off a physical divisional game,

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Speaker 5: turning around traveling on a short week to take on

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Speaker 5: a team that they know is going to hit them

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Speaker 5: in the mouth. The one concern for the Bears if

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Speaker 5: they're unable to run the football and I don't really

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Speaker 5: see a path of doing so against that Detroit defensive front.

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Speaker 5: Can Caleb make enough plays in the passing game? I

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Speaker 5: think you're going to get Detroit to be a little

786
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Speaker 5: bit more dynamic offensively. But there's no doubt it was

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Speaker 5: a massive downgrade when you lose an offensive coordinator that's

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Speaker 5: this talented in terms of scheming up game plans as

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson. Six and a half kind of no man's land,

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Speaker 5: but no surprise at all. Gentlemen, we've seen some under

791
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Speaker 5: money come in from that total of forty seven where

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Speaker 5: it opened now down in the forty six and a

793
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Speaker 5: half range.

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Speaker 1: So are you throwing all your money on the Jets

795
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Speaker 1: on Sunday? I mean, after that incredible offensive.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, but I do

797
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 5: have a bet on the Jets as a seven point

798
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 5: under against the Bills. I know that numbers down to six.

799
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Speaker 5: I think we saw enough from the Jets in terms

800
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 5: of an offensive identity that leaves me a little bit

801
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: more optimistic that they at least know who they are

802
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 5: as a football team. And while they can't do a

803
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 5: lot of the same things that Ravens can at a

804
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: high level, it's a poor man's version, and without add

805
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 5: Oliver along that defensive line and some safeties that leave

806
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: a little bit to be desired from a physicality and

807
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Speaker 5: foot speed standpoint. If this Jets defense has any pride,

808
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 5: I think that's the side of the ball where they'll

809
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 5: be better. I think Justin Fields can make a few

810
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: plays and the Jets will have every opportunity to pull

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Speaker 5: off a big upset in the division.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's explore that a little bit more. I know

813
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: ed Oliver got ruled out, but he's not worth a point.

814
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Speaker 4: What kind of volume do we look at to move

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Speaker 4: a point spread a full point?

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Speaker 7: Tod, No, he's not worth a point.

817
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Speaker 5: But I think there are plenty of concerns around this

818
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Speaker 5: Buffalo team in general, and that number in the wake

819
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Speaker 5: of their improbable victory against the Ravens open seven to

820
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Speaker 5: seven and a half, the seven and a half's were

821
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: cleared out almost immediately and you started to see a

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Speaker 5: little bit more support for the Jets. I mean, I know,

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Speaker 5: on the scoreboard the Jets lose their opener thirty four

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Speaker 5: to thirty two against the Steelers, but you dig into

825
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: some of the metrics, the advanced box score, and it

826
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Speaker 5: suggests that suggests that the Jets were unlucky losers in

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Speaker 5: that particular game. So a little bit of value here,

828
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Speaker 5: the high level of familiarity, a short week of sorts

829
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Speaker 5: for Buffalo, having played late into the night on Sunday,

830
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Speaker 5: with everything that they expended from an emotional standpoint, and

831
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Speaker 5: you can see why the Jets proposition as arguably a

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Speaker 5: defensive dog in this spot of the team that's going

833
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Speaker 5: to be able to run the football, shorten the game

834
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Speaker 5: and maximize their possession.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, Todd, Now, last once to me, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you, what kind of odds do you

837
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Speaker 1: give me.

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Speaker 3: If the Mets don't win another Gome this season?

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Speaker 7: Dodd?

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Speaker 3: Can I just say it? Frostburg, I don't just count

841
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: the fans at UCLA, right, count the twelve fans? Then

842
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: what's the answer?

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00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I didn't even know the Mets are

844
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: still playing baseball, honestly, and say, I'm pretty sure Mets

845
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 5: fans don't think what they've been doing of late is

846
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 5: anything close to playing baseball, So maybe there's a good

847
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: chance they decided to just take the rest of the

848
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Speaker 5: season off.

849
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Speaker 7: But kudos to the Mets.

850
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Speaker 5: They invented ways to lose against the Philadelphia Phillies getting swept,

851
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Speaker 5: followed it up with a terrific performance tonight against the

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Speaker 5: Texas Rangers. But when you can lose Game one of

853
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: the series one nothing and then give up twenty runs

854
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: it combined over the next two games, the Mets are

855
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 5: finding ways to raise the bar. And if there's one

856
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: franchise that's known for a late season collapse, it is

857
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: the New York metropol You can.

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Speaker 3: Follow on Twitter at Todd Furman.

859
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Speaker 1: That is at Todd Furman, all your big picks, all

860
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Speaker 1: your prognostications, former ods maker. Check him out on CBS

861
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Speaker 1: Sports Sports Line as well, also on TSN.

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Speaker 3: He's everywhere.

863
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: He is our man, Todd Ferman, Todd as always buddy,

864
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: appreciate man. We'll talk to you next week.

865
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Speaker 5: Always a pleasure. And it's just crying Shane that Harm

866
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 5: wasn't invited for Big New Kickoff to go return to

867
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Speaker 5: his old stomping grounds there on the shores of Lake Michigan.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't be sure that he was gonna wear pants,

869
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Speaker 1: so that's why they say, listen, we had purple shorts pressed.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Come on, It is a fair concern, but Harm becomes

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Speaker 5: a public liability and a career limiting move potentially on

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Speaker 5: their rise and if he's traveling with that crew.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: What's happening, Jay? How are you good man?

878
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Speaker 7: How are we doing again?

879
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're only you know, one week in,

881
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: one game in, but wow, this packer's defense, this Packers

882
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: team looks really impressed.

883
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, it really does. You know what, man, they had

884
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 7: a lot of swagger actually coming in and then when

885
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 7: they did the micro Parsons straight, they're like, hey, we're

886
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 7: going for it, and one move like that could totally

887
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Speaker 7: energize a team. And you know, it's interesting because they're

888
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 7: you know, I, you know, the different coordinator actually talk

889
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: of ironically a week ago, they talked to Dan Quinn.

890
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 7: They tell me what I need to about Michael Parsons,

891
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 7: because obviously dan Quinn was the uh you know, Jeff

892
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Speaker 7: Appley's his new coordinator, but dan Quinn was coordinator in Dallas,

893
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 7: and Dan was like, hey, always challenge him, and you

894
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 7: could do all these things with them. You don't just

895
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 7: play him here, you know, one spot or two spots.

896
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 7: You can do so many different things with them as

897
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Speaker 7: long as you challenge him. And happily, he's like, oh

898
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Speaker 7: my goodness, I'm gonna put them everywhere. If there's whatever

899
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Speaker 7: week link I'm gonna find, I'm gonna play him there.

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Speaker 7: And it was perfect for them. I will tell you

901
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 7: this two games now. I went to Green Bay two

902
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 7: weeks ago and their general manager, Brian dudeis just came

903
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: over to me and said, and we're just talking. He says, Hey,

904
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Speaker 7: Dallas isn't really trading Mike out. I'm like, hey, dude,

905
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Speaker 7: Dallas is trading Micah. Like they're trading him. He's like,

906
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 7: come on, I'm like, they're trading him. Between him and Jerry,

907
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 7: there's something there with him and Jerry. And I told

908
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Speaker 7: every team that camp there's something there with him and Jerry.

909
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 7: And Jerry isn't a guy really like Jerry calls chaos

910
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Speaker 7: and then you kind of have makeup sex, you know,

911
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 7: and you don't really have stuff that goes on with

912
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 7: players where he you can't come back from it. And

913
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 7: there was something there that was the deal. And I

914
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: told Judy, I'm like, no, I don't. I don't see

915
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Speaker 7: him come back from it. I don't see them doing

916
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Speaker 7: a long term deal after this. And man, if you know,

917
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 7: I said, I know you guys are in on it,

918
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Speaker 7: but if you really want to do it, I said,

919
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 7: metaboys are expecting the phones to light up in the

920
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 7: dead week, which used to be the fourth preseason game.

921
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 7: If you guys love him, jump in and jump in early.

922
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 7: They're expecting to trade him for doing the AFC team

923
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 7: and no AFC team. Really nobody was showing interest, so

924
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 7: man like, and then Goody said, what do you think

925
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 7: it'll take? I said, I mean, I think I know

926
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Speaker 7: they're asking for at least two ones and if they

927
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Speaker 7: like d tackles so Kenny Clarkin. They said, man if

928
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Speaker 7: if Michael works out, then your first round picks those

929
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Speaker 7: two ones. They're you know, twenty eight to thirty two,

930
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 7: So what do you care. He's like, no, I agree,

931
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Speaker 7: and it would just be aggressive. And he was, now

932
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Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm not saying he did it because

933
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 7: I said this, but like they were already aggressive. They

934
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 7: were the They're the ones who showed the most interest

935
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Speaker 7: from the early, early, early start.

936
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Speaker 3: To the end.

937
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Speaker 7: And it was kind of always them, the leaders of

938
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Speaker 7: the clubhouse. And I was I was suppus because I

939
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 7: was going around a camp saying like asking teams, hey,

940
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Speaker 7: would you be interested? And it's like, nah, the money's

941
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 7: too much or the picture too much or so along

942
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Speaker 7: those lines, and I'm like, Manna generational talent, and you

943
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 7: guys don't want to chime in when like Tamal Adams

944
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Speaker 7: are traded for for a couple of ones, you know,

945
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Speaker 7: like I was a little I'm a little confused why

946
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Speaker 7: other teams weren't jumping over themselves to get into those Well, well, Jay.

947
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Speaker 1: Look I get what you're saying, but I think this

948
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: is a bombshell. Now thirty teams hate you because you

949
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Speaker 1: got this trade Gune like what blaz are talking to

950
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Speaker 1: the packers like that, they wouldn't have traded for him. No, no,

951
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: this is I can't go to any training taps ever.

952
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 7: Again. No, I talked to twenty other teams about the

953
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 7: same thing, but the Packers weren't like, no, we're in,

954
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 7: but all these other teams like, no, we don't have that.

955
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 7: I was like, hey, you know, every time I go

956
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 7: to camp, a kid would say, hey, you think they're

957
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 7: really training them? I'm going yeah. So, like Philly asked

958
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 7: p I said, is uh is Mike is gonna be

959
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 7: there week? When I said, I don't think he is,

960
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 7: and Howie Road was like, come on, I'm like, nope,

961
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Speaker 7: I don't think he is. He said, I just think

962
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Speaker 7: it's Tim and Jerry. I don't think it's happening to him.

963
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 7: He's in no way. So obviously Ali Roseman and offered

964
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Speaker 7: the world and they wouldn't do it, but no. Every

965
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Speaker 7: team was asked me, Hey, what do you think is

966
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Speaker 7: gonna happen with Mike and Dallas, And I'm like, well,

967
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Speaker 7: I don't think they're working out, man. I said to

968
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Speaker 7: trade them, and They're like, come on. I'm like, I

969
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Speaker 7: have the same conversation that I have with Brian Goudakis,

970
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Speaker 7: with twenty other gms and and head coaches and owners

971
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Speaker 7: and so many conversations, And really the Packers were the

972
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Speaker 7: ones who were like, yeah, we'll do it, We're it.

973
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Speaker 7: There's a couple of other teams who act like they

974
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Speaker 7: were going to do it, and then once the Cowboys

975
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Speaker 7: were like real, like no, we really want two ones,

976
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 7: they bailed out. Between the two ones and the price,

977
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Speaker 7: everybody kind of bailed out. I'm kind of like I was.

978
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Speaker 7: I was. I was very I was shocked that a

979
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Speaker 7: lot more teams didn't want to do what the Packers did.

980
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 7: I was very shocked. I was explored. So I had

981
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Speaker 7: the same conversation with like twenty other team dad, but

982
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 7: all of the factors like, yeah, that's yeah, that seems

983
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 7: fair to us. Why wouldn't we do it?

984
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

985
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Speaker 4: After watching Micah terrorizees off at some Why do you

986
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Speaker 4: think dan Quinn should have told U Halfley, I'll talk

987
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Speaker 4: to you on Friday.

988
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Speaker 7: But that's kind of gaite, dude. Dan Quinn is such

989
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 7: a good dude with like you know, anybody needs his help.

990
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 7: Dan Quinn such a good guy. Where I don't you

991
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Speaker 7: know today's not eleven? When not eleven happened? Dan Quinn,

992
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 7: a lot of people don't know this almost left the

993
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 7: NFL to join the Marines. He legitimately almost left the

994
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 7: NFL to go join the Marines to go fight for

995
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 7: a country. Here was a serious conversation with him and

996
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: his wife and he has always been in fact, this

997
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 7: week he showed his team and every year he does

998
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 7: this on nine eleven. Hey, I want to He showed

999
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 7: them like what happened nine to eleven? So a lot

1000
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 7: of you guys weren't even born yet this that happened.

1001
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 7: That's why it's important, so you should know about this day.

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00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 7: Dan Quinn is the most selfless coach in this league.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jay Glazer that is at Jay

1004
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Glazier again, NFL on Fox, check him out Ballers on HBO.

1005
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Founder of MVP and Unbreakable Performance mental health warrior, Jay

1006
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: appreciate your time after the game tonight. And still I

1007
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be different when you go to camps

1008
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Speaker 1: next year and go, oh, there's Glazier, the guy that got.

1009
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Speaker 3: Mic out of the Packers. Okay, and it's gonna happen

1010
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: for you, budd.

1011
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 7: I didn't get them to the Packers.

1012
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: They got him.

1013
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 7: But I just I have the same conversation everywhere. I

1014
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 7: just couldn't believe, like nobody else is in No, don't

1015
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Speaker 7: make it like I trade him i'd.

1016
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Speaker 3: Because no, No, keep him at Bay here day. I

1017
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Speaker 3: got him. See you, buddy, We'll talk to you next week.