1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, what's EPs Way up at Angela Yee, I'm Angela Yee, 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: and Jasmine from the Jasmine brand is here, and Roland 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Martin is here. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: What's up? 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: And we have the pleasure of welcoming for the first 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: time D Barnes. Hey, D Barnes, what's up? 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 4: What's up you guys? Thank you so much for having me. 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: This is awesome in exclusive. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 3: And exclusive lusive. 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Roland actually broke the news on Way Up at Angela. Ye, 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: let's break it again. If people didn't hear it, that's right. 12 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 5: So D and we've launched a new show with her 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 5: called The Frequency with D Barnes. Right now it's a weekly, 14 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 5: but eventually it will be a daily show once he 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 5: gets your sea legs legs, you know, the frequency of 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 5: no pun intended. But yeah, So I Uh it was 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: last year when I hit THEE out of the blue 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 5: on Twitter and I was like, yop, what are you doing? 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 6: Uh? 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: And then she told me and I was like, well, 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: what do you want to do? Uh? 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: And then uh, I said, hey, I got an idea. Uh, 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 5: I think you'd be great for it. And then uh, 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 5: for some reason, she took me about two three weeks 25 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 5: to hit me back. 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 7: I'm like, what the hell you get a marinate on 27 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 7: that so long? 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 5: And so then then she hits me back and she 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 5: said she wasn't gonna do it. I was like, is 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: she got her mind? Uh? And so precisely, and then 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: so then we had uh. Then I said, okay, fine, 32 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 5: and then I was like, no, it's not fine. So 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 5: then I came back and I was like, let's have 34 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 5: another conversation, all right, And it was challenge and we 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 5: were one of the things that one of the things 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 5: you precisely but one of these, but one of the 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: things I told you, I said, uh, I said, I 38 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: am very good at I was afraid, I used, I said, 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: I'm very good at uh. 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Not not fixing people, I said, but unblocking. 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 5: Them, Okay, blocking a lot of people who called me 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: for advice and counsel for help. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, okay, what's what's blocking. 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 5: You from doing something? 45 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: Okay? 46 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 5: So we then begin having this conversation and what actually 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 5: did it? 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: I said, Okay, d here's I think what's going on? 49 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 5: Because she was like, I want to focus on getting 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 5: this documentary done and get my book done. 51 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: I said, look, those are long term. 52 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: Project, right, you can still do that. 53 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 5: I said, you're somebody trying to swim to that island 54 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 5: and I'm in a boat. 55 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Yep, you can get to the island a lot faster. 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 5: D's trying to swim. 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: And she was like and then your response, D, you 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: were like, I was. 59 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Like, genius before we even hear your tight Let's talk 60 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: about some d Barn's history because you actually have experienced hosting, right, 61 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: and so I want to make sure that people are 62 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: aware of that. 63 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: Talk about some of the people you've interviewed. 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 6: Oh man, you know, my background is in hip hop, 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 6: as you grew up on that, so everyone in hip 66 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 6: hop you can possibly imagine, especially now we're celebrating the 67 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 6: hip hop's So you know, I got to start off 68 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 6: with the women, of course, Queen Latifa, Mony Love, Salt 69 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: and Pepper. You know, I made all my favorites, right, 70 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: and then we move on to Oh, Nikki D. Got 71 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 6: a shout out my girl, Nikki D. And then we 72 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: move on to a lot of the men. Hello, cool 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 6: J run DMC. I had the honor you know, when 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 6: jam Master J was here rest in peace. I was 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 6: just thinking about the Beastie Boys today because you know, 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 6: it's the anniversary of Adams passing. 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, yeah, it was it up. 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: Yes, the show was called Pump It Up. It was 79 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: on Fox. And this is like pre in Living Color, 80 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: This is like pre Martin. This is back in the day. 81 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: All right. 82 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: So what happens to all that footage now? 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Because I said they did the video music box documentary, 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: So with all the footage because it was on Fox, 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: were pump it Up? 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you can. 87 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Do with that? 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 6: Man, I've been documenting in Angela and I'm telling you, 89 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 6: I'm being getting so much rejection. 90 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: You know. 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 6: I think it's you know, just being a woman in 92 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 6: this industry, Like they're just not really taking me seriously. 93 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: And the fact that I was conscious enough to document 94 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 6: the history because it was important to me. It was 95 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: not important Fox. And I documented you know, my three 96 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 6: my three years there, and I have. 97 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 4: A lot of footage that's just you. 98 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: Know, waiting waiting to be you know, presented. I've pitched 99 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: it to a lot of people. 100 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: We're not gonna mention it on names, and you know 101 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: it's been you know, back to back. 102 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: Now it's not like a guard mine to me. 103 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Right well, one, it feels like a gold mine and 104 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: a real brainer to me. 105 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 6: I mean, it's history too, you know what I mean, 106 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: it's it's a lot of history. A lot of these 107 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 6: artists aren't here anymore. I get emotional when I think 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 6: about like Heavy D. You know, I have a lot 109 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 6: of footage of Heavy D. I was just talking to you, 110 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: whiz just you know, throwing on Instagram excuse me? And 111 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 6: uh we both got emotional thinking about it because somebody 112 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: had posted some footage of the first show we did 113 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 6: and this was like on the original Fox lot that's 114 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 6: not even there anymore. 115 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: How did that tell that this even make it to 116 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: facts because, like you said, they didn't really see the 117 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: value while you were documenting all of this and know 118 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: what this would turn into. But how did it even 119 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: land there at that time? 120 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: Well, you know how most networks do, they take black 121 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 6: content to build up their network, and so that's exactly 122 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 6: what did They saw the value in the advertisement, you know, dollars, 123 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 6: But they didn't see any value in the people in 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 6: the show. 125 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: You know, they didn't really even have a clue to 126 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: who the artists were, you know. 127 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 6: So they saw that that advertisement and they got a 128 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: lot of money that came in from pump it up, 129 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 6: and then they spread it out to other shows, so 130 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 6: you know, it wound up there just because they wanted 131 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 6: to get into the you know, the wrap game basically, 132 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 6: and they wanted that advertisement. 133 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: And money did roll in from that, but they didn't 134 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 4: put it on the show. 135 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, the more money that came in, 136 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: the less and less our budget got. 137 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Wow, I want to go back to the No. 138 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: Here's why this is important because when when Dean and 139 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 5: I were talking and she was like, you know, all 140 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: these people they said they would help with this documentary 141 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 5: with his book, and what I said to her, I said, 142 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: it was something that the late John Ware he was 143 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 5: the city manager of Dallas, told me and he went 144 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 5: to Tom Hicks's investment fund and John told me, and 145 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 5: I would always call John and he would say, rolling, 146 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: all these ideas are great, he said, but the most 147 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 5: important thing you need is a platform. And so I said, 148 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 5: d I said, everything that you want to do can happen, 149 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: but you need a platform to launch it from right. 150 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: And that's why I said, you really should think about 151 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 5: doing this show. And I said, because again, there's short 152 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 5: that whether short term, there's midterm, then there's what's long term? 153 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: I said, then once you launched the show. Now you're 154 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 5: back in the game. Now you're talking to people now 155 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: all the things that you used to do. I said, 156 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: because the reality is I said, there is a I said, 157 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 5: this should this should be d Bard's two point zero. 158 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: I said, your life, your story should not stop with 159 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 5: what happened with doctor Dre. This is an opportunity to 160 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: now now say no, let me let me now go 161 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 5: next level. And I said, you do. 162 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: This all those other things. 163 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: I said, we don't have to ask others for this 164 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 5: because we can do them. I don't have to ask somebody, 165 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: hey can you do a documentary when we literally can 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: do it. Well, we gotta do this first. 167 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: No, I feel you and were you familiar right with 168 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Roland before he approached you? 169 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Did you know him? Did y'all know each other? 170 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: No, we didn't know each other, but I did know him, 171 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 6: and I was very familiar with him and the network 172 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 6: as a matter of fact. And it's funny with everything 173 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 6: he said. I had a conversation with Fab five Freddy 174 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: and he reiterated everything. 175 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 5: He was like, see because I had a conversation and 176 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 5: I was like fail. 177 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 6: I was like my brother Fab five Freddy really step restraight. 178 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, holler at. 179 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: You this well, I said, what was holding you back? 180 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: Because I can imagine I said this to rolling behind 181 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: the scenes. It has to be like being jaded from 182 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: this industry, you know, just from everything that's happened and 183 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: promises that were made and then people are not keeping 184 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: up their end of the bargain and. 185 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: Just a lottery numbers girl. Because you hit it. That 186 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 4: was exactly it. 187 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: That was I felt like I had wanted it for 188 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 6: so long and it didn't happen that I had moved on, 189 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 6: I moved on from it. I just was like it 190 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: was like something like I felt like I grew even 191 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 6: though I think I was really suppressing it. And when 192 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: I met uh Jackie Jackie doctor doctor Jackie Martin, she 193 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 6: really set me straight and helped me get balanced. And 194 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: you know, her show was called a Balance Life and man, 195 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 6: she mentored me so well, so smoothly too, that it 196 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 6: really it helped finished unblocking me. 197 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 7: Basically, what's the biggest thing that you've learned in terms 198 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 7: of working with doctor Jackie or is it doctor Jackie 199 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 7: doctor Jacks. 200 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 4: I called it doctor jack Yes, it's jack Jackie Martin. 201 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 7: She revert, she doctor, Well, what has been what's the 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 7: most helpful thing that she that she kind of helped 203 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 7: you on block. 204 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 6: The biggest thing she helped me on block was you 205 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 6: know that that uh imposter syndrome you've heard, Yes, we 206 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 6: we we worked through that. 207 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: And she did it indirectly. 208 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 6: It's it's hard to explain she did it indirectly, but 209 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 6: she gave me some tips and some points and some 210 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 6: things to to to to really marinate on and think about. 211 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: So we would talk and then I would think about 212 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 6: everything she said and come. 213 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: Back like you were right this, that and the other thing. 214 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 6: So I can't really get get into all the because 215 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: it was very, very emotional for me. 216 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 4: She helped me get through it. 217 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: And the other thing is we're working Joe Cheatwood, is 218 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: that initially D was like sol locked in the hip 219 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 5: hop and I needed to her he understand and I 220 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: got it. I totally got it. I said, but D, 221 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: this is not a hip hop show. So I need 222 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 5: you to expand your your perspective horizon because your story 223 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: you can talk about again economics and dealing with hard 224 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 5: stuff and homelessness, and I said, you could talk about 225 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 5: being I said, it's so many things you can talk about. 226 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 5: I said, so don't be narrow, I said, I need 227 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: you to think expansive. I said, because you're gonna be 228 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 5: five days a week. He said, so don't be narrow 229 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: in your thinking. 230 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: So what is this show? If you had to describe it? 231 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 6: My show is basically a talk show that's like at 232 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 6: the intersection of empowerment and acknowledgement. 233 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: I really want to use this platform. 234 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 6: That's Roland has given me the opportunity to have to 235 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 6: uplift women. 236 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: That was something that you know. 237 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 6: I couldn't do back in the days consistently, and now 238 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 6: I can, and I really want to focus on issues 239 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: that affect. 240 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 4: Women, in particular Black women. That's that's the show. Basically. 241 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 6: It's like it's like my favorite poetry by Sony Sanchez, 242 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: which is Homegirls and hand Grenades. 243 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's homegirls talking, but we're 244 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: talking about we have some explosive conversations. 245 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 7: How did you all come up with the name of 246 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 7: the show. 247 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: I know that's always a good story when you think about, 248 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: like how did we come up with Frequency? They did? 249 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: I had listen. 250 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 6: Frequency is about raising a vibration. You got a lot 251 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 6: of you remember that whole thing that was going around 252 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 6: on Twitter, that low vibrational. 253 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: Right, right, yeah, right to get her on. 254 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 4: We got You know, we're inundated every day with negativity. 255 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 6: Just have what was going on in New York on 256 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: the subway with that man being choked out. You know 257 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 6: what I mean. 258 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: It's just like every day we hear. 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 6: Some negative things about the world, and so I want 260 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 6: to do something where it's like positive or we're uplifting 261 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 6: and you know, you learn, I want to elevate and 262 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 6: educate at the same time. You know, this is when 263 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 6: you get a second chance to do something. It's like 264 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 6: you got to do it right. And you know, I'm so, 265 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 6: I mean, the blessing to be coming back on Black 266 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 6: Homeed Media. 267 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Who you can't tell me, there's no. 268 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: God good Roland. What made you know that d would 269 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: be perfect for this? 270 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: No, it's I mean it it was a Friday. It 271 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 5: was straight up. It was I was I was following 272 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: her looking at her tweets, and I said, I see 273 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: this show, I know what it can be, and I'm like, 274 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: we're gonna do it. And so its instinct. 275 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: So I mean, you've got. 276 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, they're probably thirty or forty people who 277 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: you see right now on cable news. Who I put 278 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 5: on TV first, who came through, who came through, who 279 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 5: I mentored, who I've shared with, taught and they've gone 280 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 5: and do great things. Tiffany Cross's first TV when she 281 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 5: she was behind the scenes on air was on My 282 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 5: show Angela Rye Shermichael Singleton pairs the Nard I mean, 283 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 5: Giona me, Republicans, Democrat, doesn't matter, and so I'm all, 284 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: I'm always Tiffany lofton away. I'm always looking for interesting people. 285 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: So what was interesting to me was the story. And 286 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: I said, if D can, if D can, yes, deal 287 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: with the trauma, deal with the PTSD tap into. 288 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: All of her. 289 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 5: I said, it could blow people away and really help 290 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: people who listen. And that's the most important thing for me. 291 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: And and it also was it was an opportunity to say, 292 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 5: I look at all these people the nose, I saw 293 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: those stories, and I saw what she was like. 294 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: And then we talked. 295 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: She was like, well, you know, Wendy promised this, nothing happened, 296 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 5: this person, this person, this person, And I said, Yo, 297 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 5: this would be dope to provide the. 298 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: Opportunity to see her succeed. 299 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: But that's why that's so where the pressing. When I 300 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: called fab five, I was like, bro, I said, she 301 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 5: has to take the shot, right, she has to take 302 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 5: the shot. And she and I'm here, and she and 303 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 5: I'm she wasn't believing in herself and and that been 304 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 5: And she'll admit there have been several come to Jesus 305 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: moments with Joel where it was like, Yo, d we 306 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: straight up, we're going, we got to go, and it 307 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: was like and she was like okay, but it was like, Yo, 308 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 5: this is this is the moment. 309 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't that I. 310 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 6: Wasn't believing in myself. I just wasn't believing in others. 311 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, right saying it, but it still is. 312 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: But but but to believe in others still requires you 313 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 5: to say, Okay, I gotta have faith. And my whole 314 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: point is, my point is we're going. My dealer is like, no, 315 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: we're going, d lets go. We think you can do this. 316 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: Let's go. And it was and it was. 317 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: And that's where that's where the encouragement coming in, because 318 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: you have to you have to actually get someone to 319 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: not only believe themselves, but to believe in you and 320 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 5: to go no, I'm not gonna let you down right right? 321 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,479 Speaker 1: And now what about you and fab five Freddy's relationship. 322 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: So that's somebody that throughout all this time you still 323 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: can't speak to and trust. 324 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 6: Oh yes, I mean one of the few, one of 325 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 6: the very very few that I can still call. And 326 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: and he's always been real and truthful with me. 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: We've actually truthful with each other. 328 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 6: And you know, he's watched me all through the years, 329 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 6: and you know I've called him and talked about lots 330 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 6: of things, and uh, he's definitely, you know, one of 331 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 6: my favorite brothers. 332 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: Well the first episode, Oh go ahead. 333 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm sorry ahead, you know what I'm saying. I just 334 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: have a few. I have a few brothers like that, 335 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 4: and he's definitely one of them. At the top, he. 336 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: Was funny, too, hangy. He was like, okay, roll, I 337 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: talked to D. I think she's straight. Call you. 338 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: He's like I told her d D. 339 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: He was like, yo, I think I got it. I 340 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: think I got it. 341 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: I love it. 342 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: Now. Your first guest on Frequency is Alicia Garza. Right, 343 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: so talk about what went into you saying Okay, this 344 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: is who I want as my first premier debut episode. 345 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 6: You know, while I was going through the whole uh 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 6: imposter syndrome, those two books that I've read that really 347 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 6: like pulled me over the finish line. 348 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: And one of them was. 349 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: Rod Or Guy Uh, The Feminist Manifesto for the well 350 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 6: Being of Black Women by Shanita Hubbard, and the other 351 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 6: one was The The. 352 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: Purpose of Power. Oh my god, I'm forgetting. 353 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 1: A power power Purpose. 354 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: Yes, sorry, Alicia's book. And after reading those books, I 355 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: was like, I gotta I gotta talk to. 356 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 6: Alicia, you know what I mean, especially with things were 357 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: going on with the negative image of Black Lives Matter, 358 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 6: so I really wanted to see where her thoughts were 359 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 6: on that. And I also did a panel with her 360 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 6: about the Me Too movement in particular with black women 361 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 6: in Hollywood, and so all those things combined, I said, 362 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 6: Alicia would be like the perfect guest. And this goes 363 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 6: back to Roland saying about, you know, my focus, my 364 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 6: heart is in hip hop, but I do have a 365 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: really broad base of people that I know, and you know, 366 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 6: people in Hollywood, actresses, directors, you know a lot of 367 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 6: these people in my phone. You know that I talked 368 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: to every once in a while that have supported me 369 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 6: over the years, because you know, I was unhoused for 370 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 6: three years and a lot of these people supported me 371 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 6: behind the scenes and you know, helped me pay for 372 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 6: a hotel room or help me get food, help me 373 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 6: get gas at the time when my car was you know, running, 374 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I'm able now to 375 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 6: go back to them and say, hey, looks I have 376 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 6: this platform, I would love for you to come on, 377 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 6: and they're right there for me. 378 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: And then they said we've been waiting, d We've been 379 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: rooting for you. 380 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 6: And that just like you know what I mean, that 381 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 6: that brings you through, you know, because you know my story, 382 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: you know what I've been through, and it's been a long, 383 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 6: long journey to get here, and I'm just grateful and 384 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 6: to come back on you know, black Star Network. 385 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad for you to be stepping up and 386 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: being like I'm here and yeah. 387 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: I'm back outside. 388 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 7: Were outside, baby. 389 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 6: Outside, And I love it and I'm so happy to 390 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 6: be here with you, Angela. I mean, just this opportunity itself, 391 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: like I would have never had this if it wasn't 392 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 6: for Roland, you know, to sit here and talk to 393 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 6: you and Jasmin, you. 394 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: Would yeah, we would have definitely anytime, you know, had 395 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: you on got to come up. 396 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: I love that, I always have, I would love to. 397 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I've always admired Roland and all the work that he's done, 398 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: and so I always talk about that, and so I 399 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: do think this is a great marriage. Like I believe 400 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: that everything that he's done, and from what he's been 401 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: saying about you, even behind the scenes with you not 402 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: on here and then to see, wow, you know the 403 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: connection that you guys have, I just feel like this 404 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: is it. We're united, and like he said, it'll be 405 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: a great way for you to jump start all the 406 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: things that you need to do for yourself. 407 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: Right right, I'm just loving it and counting my blesses 408 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: and just really really grateful, you know what I mean. 409 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 6: Roland just really he sent me that that life, that 410 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 6: life preserve, that life life round. 411 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: I was like, getting the boat, d stop swimming getting 412 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 5: so funny. 413 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: I was die. 414 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: He was like, what you're gonna do drown getting. 415 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: The boat now, Rowland can't even swim at all. You 416 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: got to get on, that's what you're saying. 417 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: Now. 418 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: So how often is this show? 419 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: I know it's going to be a daily show, but 420 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: tell us the rollout. 421 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 5: It'll be a weekly show for the first couple of months. 422 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 5: I think y'all got six eight shows in the can. 423 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: Yes, and. 424 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: Okay, Tim, I told you so. So Joe cheat Win 425 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: his team they've been working with. Look, my whole did 426 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 5: was y'all go to work. I haven't even seen the 427 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: first episode. 428 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: I was like, y'all go to work. 429 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: I'm trying to go get advertised money. 430 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: Y'all go to work. 431 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 5: So the first couple of months, we'll do it as 432 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 5: a weekly, and then we'll go to two to three 433 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: times a week. 434 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 435 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: And my I did buy September one. Uh, then it's 436 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 5: a daily because it's just as you know, as you know, 437 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: daily grind ain't the same as a weekly. So you 438 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: gotta you gotta build up to that stamina, and you 439 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: gotta and and again, and as I think it's more 440 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: people to come wear the show than all a sudden 441 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 5: of the guest ideas and then now you begin to. 442 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: Pick it up. 443 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: Uh. 444 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 5: And and that was and I was conscious of that, uh, 445 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: knowing full well how you have to build towards that, 446 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: because we've we've had these been a board. 447 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: Now I think nine months now. 448 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 5: So we've been in development, just just working on her again, 449 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: her stuff with Jackie or stuff with Joe, just working on. 450 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: All that other stuff because you can't get to the 451 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: show less you. 452 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 6: Do all that. 453 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we level. 454 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: It's so great to see you back behind the mic again, 455 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: and I'm happy for you and we'll be supporting you 456 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: and paying attention. If there's any clips you want to send, 457 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: You're like, make sure you talk about this. 458 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: This happened. We're here for it. 459 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 6: Congratulations, right, thank you so much, you guys. I really 460 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: appreciate your support and I. 461 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: Love you guys. I admire you so much. And it's like, 462 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 4: I'm just like, I'm over here fangirl in a little bit. 463 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I just love it now I am. And next time 464 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: you're in New York, come see us. 465 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, I'm coming through. 466 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you so much. 467 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: Frequency watch it every Thursday. 468 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: Start network, y'all. 469 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Let's go. 470 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: Where are you going? Stretch? 471 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 7: You gotta catch a flight. I'm sorry, I'm just gonna 472 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 7: get up. 473 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: I don't know. 474 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: It's all good the. 475 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 6: Last thing, and then she started, good, sorry, thank you, 476 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 6: thank you so much. 477 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: She's gonna find a coach. 478 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 7: Back to find a coach bag and. 479 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: Fly coach the coach all right, thank you 480 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: One