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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, this is the Queen of the Spring Prian

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio network or wherever you get your podcasts. Usually

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Speaker 1: I have my co host Chad with me, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to make it, so I found a replain kid.

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Speaker 1: You know him as sign Guy Zuglely. I know him

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Speaker 1: as Loud'angelie from Impact TNA Wrestling. Lewis.

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Speaker 2: I had not seen you, Louis. I have not seen you.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to think because I saw you over

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Speaker 1: the weekend of WrestleMania.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember last time I saw.

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Speaker 3: You, probably two thousand and one, like when we were

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Speaker 3: doing not the last ECW show, but remember we did

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Speaker 3: some like shows during the summer, like the Community Center

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Speaker 3: off South Street that year.

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Speaker 4: I remember that show.

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Speaker 1: That might be And we also did the Baseball Field

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Speaker 1: the reunion at the baseball Field when my top all

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo off my chains up broke in the ring.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I remember the Buffalo show very well. We were

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Speaker 4: calling spots on the fly just to pop ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I think I gave you a Bronco buster and my

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Speaker 1: top was completely broken and that.

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Speaker 4: Was Yeah, we did that that spot there and also

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Speaker 4: at the Community Center. We kept it going, man, we

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Speaker 4: kept it going, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of reunion shows that year.

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Speaker 4: I only did that one, remember I stopped like I did.

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Speaker 4: I did did Buffer Low one. The community Center show

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Speaker 4: I don't think was reunion. I think it was just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the Community Center. But now did you

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Speaker 1: not do them because you moved?

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Speaker 4: No, I still live in Philly. For a lot of them,

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Speaker 4: and then I moved to Colorado. But no, mostly because

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Speaker 4: no one asked me to the couple that I being honest,

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Speaker 4: the couple that I was asked to do, because I

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Speaker 4: of wasn't interested in it. But yeah, that was a couple.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. The first

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Speaker 4: And then the ones that was before I wasn't interested in.

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Speaker 1: So right, I've been there, we go.

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Speaker 4: I remember the rebirth of E CW with you in

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Speaker 1: See I call that the fake e C dub. That

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Speaker 1: was a very dark time. Yeah, it was definitely not

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Speaker 4: No, that was tough for a lot of people. I

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Speaker 4: mean I was happy. I mean me personally. I lasted

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Speaker 4: four years there because I was in the office do

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Speaker 4: in marketing. But I felt bad for all you guys. Man,

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Speaker 4: you didn't get much of a much of a shot,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I I told the story so many times.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was presented to me one way,

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Speaker 1: and then I got there.

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Speaker 2: None of that happened, you know, all of.

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Speaker 4: Us, I think in one way. I mean even when,

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Speaker 4: like I was working for Comcast Spectacore in Philadelphia for

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Speaker 4: was pretty cool. It was you know, Shane was going

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Speaker 4: who was booking it at the time. I know who

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Speaker 4: was Paul or Tommy or whoever. But man, that went

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Speaker 2: Yeah it did.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that I got out of

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Speaker 2: But the experience was just horrible for me.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be. Look, it was definitely tough

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Speaker 4: But again I go back to the initial plan of

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Speaker 4: thing about that ECW, which you probably don't know, is

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Speaker 4: they originally had me. They had a gimmick for me

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Speaker 4: that was going to be the office lou Dy' Angeli

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Speaker 2: Ow, No, I never heard that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Nicks like fairly fast. And you know,

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Speaker 4: it's funny, like I had never formally had a conversation

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Speaker 4: to me, like oh, yeah, you can be like live

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Speaker 4: the marketing stuff as well, because you know there's crossover there.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I never heard another word

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Speaker 4: about it. And then like booking sheets came out and

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Speaker 4: top of the booking sheet, it's like host lou Dy Angeli.

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Speaker 4: And then like two days later the booking sheets re

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Speaker 4: came out and there was no host loud angel anymore. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I used to love when I would look at the

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Speaker 1: and it'd be crossed out. I'm like, yes, this is great.

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Speaker 4: It was really interesting. You know now that you know,

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Speaker 4: Nick Nameth is with us now and she and him

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Speaker 4: and I have had a lot of conversations about WWE life,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, I don't think people truly understand like

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Speaker 4: how quickly things change. I mean, he was telling me

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Speaker 4: me a story story was on Busted Open. But then

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Speaker 4: him and I had the conversation because I wanted him

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Speaker 4: to like share with people like this really happens. Like

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Speaker 4: one night he's getting a call that he's in a

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Speaker 4: like heat or something like that, doing a five minute

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Speaker 4: job to Kevin Owens. It's just like it's so sporadic,

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Speaker 4: and that's at a major level, right, So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: don't think people get it. Man, It's crazy and it makes.

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Speaker 2: You wonder too, like do you have heat with anyone there?

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Speaker 1: Like what is the deal? Because I didn't. I really

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Speaker 2: And I didn't politic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was called to that office so many

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Speaker 1: times and you're like paint drawing, you don't do anything,

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Speaker 1: you don't politic, and I'm like, I never politiced in

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Speaker 4: Of the goal is not to politic and usually it's

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Speaker 4: like should get rewarded. That's that's strange. That's a strange answer.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of it too, I think, honestly.

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Speaker 4: there was no ECW talent at one point. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's a couple of guys. It was a crazy four months.

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Speaker 4: So I remember those house shows. I remember the boys

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Speaker 4: with some of the guys. What's that. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: That shows you how much they cared about us. There

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Speaker 1: And that's that was a frustration on talent side, because

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Speaker 2: I hated it.

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Speaker 1: Nothing against the girls, but I never had to do

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Speaker 1: And I remember I was in uh, I was in

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Speaker 4: I was just like, what, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was telling me it was like nobody gave two

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Speaker 1: ships about any of us. I was just like, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I got changed and I sat down and that

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny it is now it's like, all

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Speaker 4: WWE than they have ever now. And I say that

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Speaker 4: because of like Paul's Hall of Fame thing, all the

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Speaker 4: specials done on the network. I mean, I've done countless

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Speaker 4: ECW things you know, top fifty extreme moments. I'm just

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Speaker 4: involved in. There's a lot, so it's like, all of

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Speaker 4: really awesome, which is cool it keeps it in the conversation.

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Speaker 4: But that experiment was very bad. Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was not good.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to better times.

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Speaker 2: When we had fun.

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Speaker 4: Minutes ago before we started.

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Speaker 1: Talking about the fake EC Doug, give me a random story.

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Speaker 1: What do you know?

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It was Larry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember, I'll throw you one. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember the tornado?

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Speaker 4: Oh in Saint Charles, I do. Were you in the

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 4: What were you? Was I there with you for that one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, Tommy and I were in targeting, Yeah, either Target

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Speaker 1: And he grabbed my arm and he goes, it's a

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Speaker 2: Everybody just starts running.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: We got in the car and I remember you. Corrino.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Somehow we all found each other.

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Speaker 1: Because Corrino, I don't know if he was rooming with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I was under some stairs somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we all go in the room, and I'll

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Speaker 2: We're gonna die. We're all gonna die. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: So Tommy drags me into a bathroom and he goes,

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Speaker 4: You're Doomsday. It's so doomsday. It's like it's over, it's over.

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Speaker 1: You were all calling your mom's and I did not.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, I don't remember that level of detail.

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Speaker 1: We were all crying in the bathroom, like, oh crying, crying,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's I remember that one pretty well.

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Speaker 4: That was my That was my first tornado experience. I

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Jeff Jones stuck under her bridges?

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Speaker 4: I think somebody was. There was a whole bunch of us.

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Speaker 4: It was like, where were you when this tornado hitting

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Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: It was so great.

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Speaker 2: I literally saw it touchdown outside the window.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. All right, Well that's

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Speaker 4: you know, most of my stories are built around like

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Speaker 4: Top five Extreme Moments WWE DVD, and they were they

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Speaker 4: couldn't believe I remembered every single moment and like where

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Speaker 4: that's that's where I'm you know, I remember those things

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've done someone, We've done a lot of

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Speaker 4: poop pranks on CW. That's always the go to.

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Speaker 1: We did, remember the brownie one.

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Speaker 4: The brownie story is told like every every time I

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Speaker 4: the sake of it.

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Speaker 1: Before you say it, let me just tell you the

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Speaker 1: brownie was mine, and I was pissed off that I

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Speaker 4: Wasn't it a matter x par No, it was my

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Speaker 4: brown It was an actual brownie. So I have a

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Speaker 4: picture that I found. I should have brought it, but

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Speaker 4: it's downstairs. I have a picture of me and said

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Speaker 4: brownie holding the brownie. You do not, I swear, yeah

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Speaker 4: it was. I found these two pictures randomly the other day.

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Speaker 4: It was one of like me and Mikey Whitbreck and

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Speaker 4: then one of me and the brownie and the brownies

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Speaker 4: like this, And I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Was it before or after?

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Speaker 4: After?

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Speaker 2: I'm all right, now you have to tell the story, because.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in Green Bay Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Remember where we were.

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Speaker 4: I have a strange memory. I remember lots of random things.

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Speaker 4: We were in Green Bay, Wisconsin. There was a huge snowstorm.

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Speaker 4: A lot of the boys relate to the show, if

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Speaker 4: they even made it to the show. And somewhere along

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Speaker 4: the way it was c W was gonna wrestle Tommy,

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Speaker 4: and we were bored, and I think it was me,

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Speaker 4: you and Tommy or Tommy and me, and we pulled

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Speaker 4: and try to make him throw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He would dig yeah, and the and the and the

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Speaker 4: rib with it with him as if you can make

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Speaker 4: It's like really really cool, like adult stuff we're doing here,

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Speaker 4: our own pleasure. So the deal was we would do

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Speaker 4: c W would have his match with Tommy, and he did.

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Speaker 4: And at one point in the match, CW gives Tommy

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Speaker 4: that goes through the curtain. There's like a little hallway

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Speaker 4: And Tommy like goes in there and he falls on

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Speaker 4: the floor like selling his back and what's that? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's just dyeing. And somewhere along there, you slip them

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Speaker 4: what I thought was metrics bar, but it turns out

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Speaker 4: Tommy then proceeds to put it in his pants, and

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Speaker 4: he's freaking out, and Tommy starts going, I think I

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Speaker 4: can you can you check? Can you check? And now

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's that check this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like but you at that point, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's like, why would anybody check? I don't need I

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Speaker 4: CW starts getting the hebgb's a little bit. He starts

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Speaker 4: doing the like the gang, and but he's still really concerns.

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Speaker 4: He thinks Tommy's hurt. And then you pull a gimmick

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Speaker 4: brownie out of Tommy's pants. As to day, Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: you did. CW turns throws up. And what everybody missed

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Speaker 4: in the course of that is I had fake throw

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Speaker 4: the wall to make it even worse for CW. He

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Speaker 4: was I heard the same that. That to me was

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Speaker 4: pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: That's an easy what's that throw up?

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Speaker 4: It was? It was like, how can we make it

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Speaker 4: even worse? We'll do with that. That's a trigger. This

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Speaker 4: guy's trigger is like all disgusting things, and here we're

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Speaker 4: I remember driving back with him that night. I don't

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Speaker 1: Now, do you guys do this in the TNA locker room?

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Speaker 4: No, No, there's rib I mean there's there's fun things

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Speaker 4: we do with each other like it's it's I mean, no,

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Speaker 4: not like that, but no, no reason we really don't.

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Speaker 4: There's just there's little things we do to pop each other.

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Speaker 4: They're not elaborate ribs because TNA doesn't travel like we

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Speaker 4: I mean, we could orchestraight things whenever. But the short answers, no,

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Speaker 4: we do have a great time together though.

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Speaker 1: Right. For those who don't know, Lou New works for TNA,

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Speaker 1: what is your title there.

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Speaker 4: I'm the vice president of Marketing for Anthem Sports and Entertainment,

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Speaker 4: so the company that owned TNA Wrestling. My main focus

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Speaker 4: is indeed TNA Wrestling, and I've been there for just

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Speaker 4: over two years now. I've had a great return in

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Speaker 4: the wrestling business. It's been you know, to be honest

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Speaker 4: with you, I always thought i'd try or maybe would

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Speaker 4: get back in, but it was really important that I

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Speaker 4: fifteen and eighteen, which blows my mind. But I always thought,

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Speaker 4: like when they're older, like I would love to get

440
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 4: back into pro wrestling. And it just happened like two

441
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: years ago. Anthem reached out to me. We had a

442
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 4: really good conversation, and I started as a consultant. And

443
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 4: I'll tell you and everybody in TNA knows this, but

444
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 4: you know, I went to the first show, which was

445
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 4: happened to be at the twenty three hundred Arena, of

446
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 4: all places, I didn't feel like I really fit in

447
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 4: at all. I felt like I was completely so disconnected

448
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 4: from wrestling because for eleven years I worked at or

449
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: disil A, so I was vice president of marketing and

450
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: PR there. I didn't, you know, and I know a

451
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 4: lot of people say this, but I didn't watch a

452
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: lot of wrestling, and I didn't really stay in touch.

453
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: And the only things I would watch were if one

454
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 4: of my buddies was on TV and he texted me

455
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: and he said, like, I'm gonna do this segment, or

456
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 4: make sure you watch this, or if it's one of

457
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 4: my buddies, And that's kind of what it was. So

458
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 4: when I went to Philadelphia, I knew Tommy Rhino, Lance,

459
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: Brian Myers, and Matt Cardona, and I knew nobody else

460
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 4: in the TNA locker room. And it was really weird

461
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: because when they brought me in, they didn't really tell

462
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: anybody why I was there, So that day, I was

463
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 4: just like walking around aimlessly, and I remember calling my

464
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: wife about an hour after I got to the arena

465
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't know if this is

466
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: going to work out. I'm not feeling it. And it

467
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 4: was a lot of different feelings for me and the

468
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 4: fact that one I didn't know anybody, so that's that's

469
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 4: you know, you get over that. But two, I just

470
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 4: didn't know if this was the time right. So we

471
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 4: did the Philly shows and then two weeks later we

472
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 4: had shows in Poughkeepsie mid Hudson six Center also where

473
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: we did shows at Love that Building, and I remember,

474
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: and honestly, I emailed them and I said, you guys

475
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 4: really need me there, Like do I have to come?

476
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: Like I don't have anything to do, because I didn't

477
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: have anything to do at the shows at that time.

478
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 4: And the response was like, well, dude, like we'd like

479
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: you to like get familiar with like the crew and everything.

480
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 4: And then I was like, yeah, you're right, I was

481
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: just being negative. So I went and sure enough, after

482
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: the second show and Poughkeepsie, I was like, I get it.

483
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 4: I get what impact at the time is trying to do.

484
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: I want to be part of it something just like

485
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 4: something just clicked. And then after Poughkeepsie picked up and

486
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 4: I was a lot more involved in a lot of

487
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: different things, and then I was offered a full time

488
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: job that summer that I gladly accepted. And now looking

489
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 4: back on it, like if I had bailed two and

490
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: a half years ago, I would have been that would

491
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: have been a big mistake, because I think some of

492
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: the best times I've had in wrestling are actually happening

493
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 4: right now, just from having a different view on it,

494
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: having a different position in the company than what I've

495
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 4: done in past companies, but also just seeing like we

496
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: talk about locker rooms and we don't like crucify it.

497
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 4: We don't like crucify each other with ribs, but we

498
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 4: have a great time together and we mess around and

499
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 4: you do the fun things. But this is probably as

500
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: close as it could get to anything like and it's

501
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: it's so different than e c W. In a way,

502
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's as close as you could

503
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: get to that locker room, but in reality, it's just

504
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 4: two different worlds. Like ECW had a great locker room,

505
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: t and A has a great locker room. They're all

506
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: different reasons why but I think at the end of

507
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: the day that one thing that brings it together is

508
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: the drive of everybody to try to make the best

509
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 4: it can be, and you know, always represent the product

510
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: in a really proud way. So it's turned out to

511
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 4: be pretty awesome.

512
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: You know. A couple of years ago I did, I

513
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: think it was.

514
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, North Carolina.

515
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Brian Myers had.

516
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: A party right in his room, and Shane was like,

517
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're we're gonna go to dinner and then

518
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: we'll go.

519
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: Up to Brian Myers room.

520
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, no, I think pretty long

521
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: with the young kid probably, I mean, we're not, We're not.

522
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 4: That was half my thing too. I mean, you know,

523
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: I know about your party because Myers texting me because

524
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: you thought it was so cool that he was hanging

525
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 4: out with me with chance.

526
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Oh he inlighted us, and so I said, you know what,

527
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: let's give it a go. Let's go up. So I did.

528
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: So we went up there and I'll tell you what

529
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: I met the whole locker room. Because the whole locker

530
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: room came into his room. They were thirty people. I

531
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: said to myself, like you I'm going to be uncomfortable.

532
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I know I am. I wasn't in the loop. I

533
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: mean about ninety nine percent who walked in if I

534
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't know them. They came and shook my hand, yeah,

535
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: and sat down and were talking to me and drinking,

536
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: and we were all drinking and having a good time.

537
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: And I said, my god, if I had to pick

538
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: one locker.

539
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: Room to return, not that I'm returning anywhere, but I'm

540
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: just saying, if I had to pick somewhere to work,

541
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: I would this company because everybody was so nice and

542
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: like down to earth, and the girls cool, and there

543
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: was like no you could tell, there was just no

544
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: cattiness going on and I love that, and everybody was

545
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: getting along and it was just a fun night, you

546
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I was just like, damn,

547
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: I like these people, like they're good people. I could

548
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: just tell. I got that vibe, you know what I mean.

549
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: So now we do these conventions, I go hang with them.

550
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like the last weekend, And

551
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: that's that's what I mean. I mean, I think initially

552
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 4: I wasn't giving it enough of a chance, and then

553
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 4: when I did, and like you see, those hangs are awesome.

554
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a good group of people that it's

555
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: not clickie, but everybody has their people they hang out with,

556
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: and that group of people is just a lot of

557
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: fun and super respectful and the stories and everything we

558
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 4: talk about, and but also it's just it's just what

559
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: I consider a safe place. I mean, a lot of

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: those a lot of things or whatever don't find the

561
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: way on the net, which is good. Yeah, but that

562
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: is one thing I would I would say about teenage

563
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: locker room for sure. I mean there's a handful of

564
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: guys there that we got really close, you know, pretty quick.

565
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: But because we've seen a lot of different things together,

566
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: we are also fighting for the same cause. And you know,

567
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: everyone communicates and talks, you know, it's not like this.

568
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: You know, there's always silos in certain areas, and that's

569
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: any company, not just a wrestling company, but everyone's usually

570
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: working together to figure things out, throw ideas out. A

571
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 4: lot of the ideas that are talked about from the

572
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: from the crew with me or from a marketing standpoint

573
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: or with our creative guys like at least or listened

574
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: to and may even happen. So I think a lot

575
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: of people see those things come to fruition, which does

576
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: make it a difference. You actually do have impact, you know,

577
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: no pun intended impact. Well, sorry, influence, you've also had influence.

578
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: The kid with the glasses should know what's going on.

579
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: That was so I heard that story found its way

580
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: on here is that I had to tell that.

581
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told that story, right, lou Is the kid

582
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: with the glasses. If you didn't listen to it, go

583
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: back and listen. I told the story.

584
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: I was the peacemaker that night. There is, yeah, there is.

585
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 4: And you weren't even that like for I weren't do

586
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: anything wrong.

587
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: I felt like I think you were just like listen, bro,

588
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: we're just hanging out having a good time.

589
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: Look what happened was We're all sitting at the table

590
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: and Nick sitting with us, and everybody in that bar

591
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: was bothering Nick, like to the point of like Nick's

592
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 4: a great guy, he'll do anything. But it came to

593
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 4: a point like you could just see It's like every

594
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: time the dude like went anywhere, we got a picture?

595
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: Can we get a picture? Can we get a picture?

596
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: And this one guy comes over and he was just

597
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: some of the things that I won't repeat here. We're

598
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 4: just so disrespectful of what he said. Said to Nick,

599
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 4: and Nick was like, huh, I'm just like, bro, can

600
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 4: you just leave like a good time?

601
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: You know what he says to me, He goes, I'm

602
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: not really a fan, and I go, if you're not

603
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: a fan, they'd stop bothering us.

604
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: Is because of the things he said to Nick, I

605
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: knew he knew wrestling. And then then he tried to

606
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: come back and talk to John Morrison. John and I

607
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: are buddies from back in the day and tie in everyone,

608
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: and so it was the same thing I sold John.

609
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: I was like, watch this, dude. And then that's when

610
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: I was the kid with the glasses. I wasn't trying

611
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: to start trip, was simply trying to like create some space. So, yeah,

612
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: stop getting bothered.

613
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Well I think I eliminated.

614
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you took him off and had a good

615
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: talking to him.

616
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I did, and I prevented a big war in a fight,

617
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: and I was very proud.

618
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: Of my not a thought I won't let it get

619
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: that far. But I mean, I think, you know, it's

620
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: when you're in the public eye like Nick is, and

621
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: you are and those guys in that moment, it's going

622
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: to go further. If Nick retaliates versus if I say

623
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: something glasses verse.

624
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: You know, I just like the kids with the gas.

625
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: I'm happy you called me a kid. I'm fifty one, so.

626
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: Ask you a question and don't take offense because I

627
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: was match number two when uh the reunion show that

628
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: just pissed.

629
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago.

630
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Did you come out with the Dougleys that night?

631
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: No, ring, why not?

632
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, no one ever asked me too, You're kidding me.

633
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: Bubba asked me. And when I literally walked in the building,

634
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: He's like, I, I don't know. I told Bubba i'd

635
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: see him there, but yeah, no, I mean, look, I

636
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: don't I don't take offense or I don't I don't

637
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: worry about any of that stuff. At the end of

638
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: the day, it's like I was really happy to be

639
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: part of the Dudley's. The Dudleys are Bubba and Demon

640
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: and you know I was a part of inn ECW.

641
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 4: Their legacy is much bigger than the ECW of things

642
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: I wasn't a part of. And yeah, it would have

643
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: been fine, But at the same time, it's like people

644
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: want to they want to see those two guys, and

645
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: if I was asked, like if it had been something

646
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: I had been talked about, probably, But when you're walking

647
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: like literally in and I was just coming with Myers

648
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: and everybody to watch the show, it was kind of

649
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: off the cuffin whatever. It's totally fun.

650
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Though, yeah, because I you know, like I said, we

651
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: were number two, they were number one because they went

652
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Teme and I when I saw

653
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: you there, I said, Oh, he's coming back to like

654
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: go out with Bubba and Difon.

655
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: That's so cool. But you weren't dressed. You were like

656
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 2: dressed like normal.

657
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 4: Well that was one of the reasons when Bubba did

658
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: ask me, and I was like, I'm not even liked

659
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: for this right now. It's like I'm dressed in a

660
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: nine inch nails hoodie and a hat.

661
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: And you know, I wanted to though, just if you

662
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: had a tie die shirt and a pair of glasses?

663
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Would you have went out there?

664
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: If I had known prior and it had been set up? Yeah? Sure.

665
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: When's the last time you you worked, like literally worked.

666
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: Twenty twelve with Billy Corgan's Resistance Pro stuff.

667
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, so I.

668
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: Did that for What's up?

669
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Do you ever get the urge to get back in

670
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: the ring?

671
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: Nah, I really don't. It's so different for me right now.

672
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: I just I would do it once if I feel

673
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: like that that windows passed. And the reason I say

674
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: that is the Dudley's did something in White Planes with

675
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: us and then they did that show, And it's just

676
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: like the window for me is like if they if

677
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: there was a time we were going to do it,

678
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: and do it once and do it properly, I'd be

679
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: all in about it. But I don't want it to

680
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: be like a last minute thing. Look, I'm not the guy.

681
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm not the big draw. It's like, holy shit, signed Dudley's.

682
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: It's more than like abody stop. You were a part

683
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: of that crew, right, So if if for nostalgia reasons,

684
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: if a show came up and everybody was there, would

685
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: you consider doing it?

686
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: Sure?

687
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: Just okay, that's that's all because I can offline really okay, No,

688
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: because like with me, like in my mentality, I always

689
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: tell Shane because I talked.

690
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: I must talk to Shane for four to five times.

691
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: A week every week, like we're very close, you know,

692
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: And and we tried to get booked a lot together

693
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: because people like to see us together.

694
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: Right, It makes complete sense.

695
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: It does until they book us separately and then put

696
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: him three rows away from me, which makes no sense whatsoever.

697
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: But that's I'm yeah, they're so ridiculous. But like in

698
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm just like, do people really want to

699
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: see a fifty two year old woman.

700
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: Accompany this guy at ringside?

701
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Like That's what I say to myself, And then once

702
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I get out there, I'm like, I can, I can

703
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of still do this like you guys are.

704
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: I think it's a little different with you guys because

705
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: you guys were so attached and yes I was a Dudley,

706
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: but you guys were. You two are synonymous rights that

707
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: just is Bubb and Devon are too, and then there's

708
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: the layers after Bubba and Devon, And that's just always

709
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: how I've seen it. I've never ever once taken offense.

710
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: I've never really thought about it. I mean, I talked

711
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: to Bubb and now I think more than you know,

712
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: we talked every day when we work together. But now

713
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: it's just different. We just have a different relationship. It's

714
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: a fantastic relationship, but it's not really built out around wrestling.

715
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 4: Were the dumblies actually? So I'm happy for those two guys.

716
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: I think they've absolutely crushed it. Definitely made a statement.

717
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: Happy to have been part of it. You never say never.

718
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 4: I think maybe there's one one day that you can

719
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: get everybody back and just knock it out and that'll

720
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: be it. But we'll see. My daughter, my fifteen year old,

721
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 4: asked me constantly, you gotta get back.

722
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: Do your kids watch wrestling?

723
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: My oldest doesn't. She only like will text me to

724
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: show her friends, like, what was your wrestling name again?

725
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: I got Dudley Louis Dangerously But now I'm at the

726
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: point now when she texts me that I just sent

727
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: her this video I have that's on YouTube, I was like,

728
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: here's everything you want to see. Someone put this video

729
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: of me just getting killed here here at all. And

730
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: then Emery, my youngest, got into it was a two thousand.

731
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 4: I guess when Becky and Sasha and Charlotte and Bailey

732
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: all start having those really big matches and I'd be

733
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: watching them. That was one time I was watching wrestling

734
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: because I was fully like floored of how awesome all

735
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: that was. And then she would see, like she really

736
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: start liking Sasha a lot. And then they came here

737
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: for a show and I brought her backstage and Devon

738
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: set up for her to meet Sasha. She had such

739
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: a great experience. Sasha gave her all these things, sent

740
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: her a bunch of gifts, and that resonated with her.

741
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: So now she watches wrestling. She only watches the women.

742
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: Her favorites are still like in in uh In Tna,

743
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: Rosemary the Demon or Courtney Rush is her favorite wrestler.

744
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 4: She does like some of the guys now too, us

745
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 4: I guess as you get older. But yeah, and she

746
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: loves she loves Masha also, and she loves Giselle also.

747
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: So it's just like all these very interesting people that

748
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: I personally have gotten to know that I think are

749
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 4: really cool. But yeah, it started. So the short answer,

750
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 4: she doesn't watch it religiously, but she definitely watches it,

751
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: like when those people are performing, or when Sasha is

752
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: doing something in a w or whatever.

753
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: That's interesting because my kids zero, yeah, yeah.

754
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: I mean they're not like it's it's funny. I would

755
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: keep all this ECW stuff. I'll be like, I'll give

756
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: it to my kids. I'll give it to my kids,

757
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: Like my kids want nothing to do with it. The

758
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: only thing that that that Emery has that's my youngest.

759
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: That she really likes is she has the first tie

760
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: Die Dudley shirt I ever wore a signed guy and

761
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: that's it. And he has a pair of Bubba's glasses

762
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: that he gave her at a WWE show. And she

763
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 4: had a ship ton of autograph stuff from TNA and

764
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: from Sasha but not U. That's it, but it's cool.

765
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: It's cool. So she's kind of like one toe in

766
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: the water.

767
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, like we don't want well, my husband and

768
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: I will watch a little bit here and there, Like

769
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: we literally just watched the TNA pay per view from.

770
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Rebellion. Awesome.

771
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched Rebellion and listen, I don't watch. Yeah,

772
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: so I watched it from start to finish. I will

773
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: say I loved the show. The packages are so good,

774
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: the packages rival WWE.

775
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: I agree, thank you good. We have an amazing creative group.

776
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: There's a guy named Eric Tompkins who works in our

777
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 4: Nashville office, and there's a guy named George Barbosa. And

778
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: between all these guys, like what they put together with

779
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 4: their teams. I'm not going to rattle through everyone's names,

780
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: but they're the guys kind of in charge and man,

781
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: they just crush it. Like Eric does such a good

782
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: job with those packages and they're so thoughtful and like

783
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: I've been with him, watching him like with a creative process.

784
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: I had nothing to do with it of just observing

785
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: and how what he puts him to like you know,

786
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 4: process and thought and time, but also how he engages

787
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: people around him to be like, hey, what do you

788
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: think or can we do this? Like it's very collaborative

789
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 4: and but what he puts out is great and I

790
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: appreciate you saying that for him.

791
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I was so impressed with the

792
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: way you you guys opened it with the.

793
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: I loved it.

794
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was so clever. How you know, he

795
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: was in the front and then he became in the

796
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: back and just just really good, I will say. And

797
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not the only one who said this.

798
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: The one thing that disappointed me were the fans. The crowd.

799
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't understand the action was so good in

800
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: the ring. Yeah the crowd was dead.

801
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's strange. And Vegas. From living here for so

802
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: long and promoting probably eight to ten TNA shows in

803
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: my time here, Vegas is a very quiet crowd.

804
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that very kind of And then I said

805
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: to myself, man, they need more managers at ringside to

806
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: the crowd up range because.

807
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: The next night in Vegas, we did our TV tapings

808
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: and they were like way louder than again, yeah, the

809
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: way we do it if usually do a live show

810
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: one night and then tape t two episodes of TV

811
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: the next night, or we do a weekend where we

812
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: do four episodes over two nights, and the TV night

813
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 4: in Vegas was they were super super loud, like from

814
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: the get go all the way through, and we're all like,

815
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 4: we get still puzzled by that because it's like TV

816
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 4: shows are great. TV tapings are great, but the live

817
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: shows the payoff, right, you know all the matches going

818
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 4: in TV. You don't know everything that's happening, and right, yeah,

819
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: and that's not knocking Vegas. I love Vegas. I love

820
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 4: it everywhere.

821
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I love the way the building looked like yeah,

822
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: yeah there, And I was like, I was excited to

823
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: watch it because this was the first pay per view.

824
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: I literally sat down and watched in like a really

825
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: long time. I was digging it, but I was I

826
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: was legit pissed off at the people. I was like,

827
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: what is going on? Like they popped for a little

828
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: like the thumb tacks and little things, but overall it

829
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: was just flat. And I'm just like me And if

830
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I was there, I would have been banging on that

831
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: mad I would.

832
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: Have been turning around cursing if people had to bring

833
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: them up like that.

834
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand. The action was so good and the

835
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: guys and girls were working so hard. It pisses me

836
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: off that it was so quiet in there at certain points.

837
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: I agree it's tough, you know, because you know, you

838
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 4: know from being in that spot, and I've been in

839
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: that spot too. The crowd reactions kind of what we're

840
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 4: going for. Yeah, and it's like it was. It was

841
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: very very quiet, And again second night was great. But

842
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: I've seen this in other markets too, where it's for

843
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 4: some reason one show resonates differently over the other, just

844
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: on who's in the crowd, you know. Yeah, whatever, it

845
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: was on Sunday afternoon in Las Vegas, everyone was raging

846
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: instead of Saturday afternoon in Las Vegas.

847
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: Well, it was a great show. I think everybody, you know,

848
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: everybody looked great on at the angles. I loved I

849
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: just I was really into it like, and that says

850
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: a lot because I haven't watched wrestling in like a

851
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: really long time. I'm trying to slowly get back into

852
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: it a little more because of this. Yeah, talk about

853
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: it more, you know, more wrestling and stuff. But I

854
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, so good job for everybody involved.

855
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 4: No, and I'll share that with everybody. The one the

856
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: one thing that I've been thoroughly like, not just impressed with,

857
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 4: but really stand behind when people ask us or ask

858
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: me about like, how are we different? I do think

859
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: our storylines, as to what you said, are really what

860
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: we pride ourselves on. And then they're not. It's not

861
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: really shotgun booking. It's very much like a person as

862
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: a start person as an ARC has a finish like whatever,

863
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: how it blows off and goes into the next thing.

864
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: And they're really well laid out. And I think because

865
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: of that, you know, you're able to vest yourself in characters.

866
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: You're not rushing it, and that's not rushing it. You

867
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: can start down and make people want to be invested

868
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: in it and want to watch every week. And that's

869
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: what I like about it.

870
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we take the time to build people.

871
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: When we take the time, Like right now, you know,

872
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 4: the system is our top heeled group, and that's an evolution.

873
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: I think it's awesome and they're all one thing. They're

874
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: all really good guys and girls and that that's what helps.

875
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: But also what they're doing is like it's legitimately getting heat.

876
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: It's like making people upset and it's they're getting booze

877
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: and it's like you're not trying to force it, it's

878
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: actually happening, you know, So you develop that a little

879
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: bit more. And what we're doing with like the knockouts,

880
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: I think our women are unbelievable and the emphasis that

881
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 4: we put on into that is makes me really proud too,

882
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: because it's women's wrestling. I think as a whole, it's

883
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: obviously a lot better in general than when what it

884
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 4: was because of just the things you said you were

885
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 4: asked to do back in the day that we wouldn't

886
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: even really think about anymore. And that's cool to showcase that.

887
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, look, we're not sitting here trying

888
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: to like, oh, we're gonna blow w W out of

889
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: the water and this and that. Like we have a niche.

890
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: We know that, and I think our niche has a

891
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of good support, a lot of

892
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: really good wrestling, a lot of really good storytelling. Yeah,

893
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: and that's a good place to own.

894
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: I had a lish on yeah, and I was telling her,

895
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: I see a little bit of the triple thread in

896
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the system.

897
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: Ah, that's a really good point. That's a really good point.

898
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: And is your biggest fan so modern a.

899
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Modern day yeah, modern day version. I love the system

900
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: and I love I love that she's out there at ringside.

901
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: And that's what I was telling her, because she basically

902
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: was saying she enjoys managing more than like the wrestling aspects. Yeah,

903
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: like being at ringside. And I was like, we need

904
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: those female managers out there, so do your thing, you know.

905
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: She's oh, I agree, I think uh.

906
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: Beautiful, And she's getting the job done. She's drawing the heat.

907
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: And I just like when I was when when Brian

908
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and and Eddie came out and they were holding.

909
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: Up the belts.

910
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: I flashed back to like Bido and Land and then

911
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Shane with the belt. At one point, I was just like,

912
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: I just a little bit, I see No.

913
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a really good example. That's a

914
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: really good I'm sorry comparison. I think you know. One

915
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: thing I'll say, Brian, you know, I definitely love Shane

916
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: and you, so there, maybe I have to ask him.

917
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: I almost want to text him right the second. I won't.

918
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: But the one thing I'll say about Edward.

919
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're like they're Oh.

920
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 4: I'm totally going to bury you to him. I'm totally

921
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: going to be like.

922
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Podcast I do see Little I do too.

923
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: I get totally get your name.

924
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: It's so cool because.

925
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: It's the twenty twenty four version and I'm a huge

926
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: fan of them, Like I told you at the pay

927
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: per view the promo that they did and then like

928
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: I love I love Heels. I just love Heels total

929
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: it's the best. So I'm a big fan of tn A.

930
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: I am going to come and see you guys because

931
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm booked for Restle Kid. So in November, Yeah, guys,

932
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: have a show and we're in.

933
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: Philadelphia and the June too, if you want to hang

934
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: out that.

935
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Night, I'm booked.

936
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 4: Okay, somebody else one more thing before before we got off.

937
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: We're not going yet, but what is the date for

938
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: the Philly show? Is at the twenty sixth or something,

939
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: I think.

940
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: It's twenty eight twenty nine of June.

941
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm booked, or else I would have

942
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: I would have made it there.

943
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm away, I'm looking right now. Why I'm looking. I

944
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 4: wanted to say something that you mentioned Alicia Edwards and

945
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: Philadelphia's twenty eight twenty nine of June year enough, okay,

946
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: well that you won't be there and then but Liz

947
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 4: will be there. You know. He's a really good example

948
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 4: of When I first started, there were a couple of

949
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: people who came to me and said, we have these ideas,

950
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, and we'd like to see some of these

951
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 4: ideas happen, and we're trying to get these ideas done.

952
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: And she was one of them who came with, like,

953
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: this is a whole kind of like idea on social

954
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: media and you know, and not not as much with

955
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: like things that are trending, but making sure our presence

956
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: is better. And she came with ideas for the content

957
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: as well. And we've made all that happen in two years.

958
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: And it's a good example of the TNA locker room.

959
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: And it's hern has a bunch of other people as well,

960
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: Cody Diner, Tom Hanifan, like a lot of the other

961
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: guys that are not you know, they're just like and

962
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: that's where its similar to ECW like you see them

963
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: in Ring, but they have all these other things they

964
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: kind of do. Liz helps produce content. She produces like

965
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 4: our theme months and you know, right now we're working

966
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: on mental health awareness and things like that, and I

967
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: think it's really good to have someone that has that.

968
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: You know, I'm soo in the day to day. A

969
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 4: lot of us are day to day of running and

970
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: working live events and doing all this stuff, and she's

971
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: trying of thinking down the line a bigger picture. But

972
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: it's a good example of how a lot of our

973
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: guys get involved.

974
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love that. That's great.

975
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: And I can't believe I just put her over because

976
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: I usually try to bury her as much as possible.

977
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: She's awesome, but it doesn't I know she's going to

978
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 4: watch it, and I want her to hear that I

979
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: buried her.

980
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: You didn't bury you put her over, but then I

981
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: buried her.

982
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: At the end.

983
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well that's fine. We kind of canceled each

984
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: other out though it's neutral.

985
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: Now, where can people find you? What do you want

986
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: to plug do? You have any socials you want to

987
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: plug or anything for TNA coming up. This will air

988
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: next Tuesday, So anything after next Tuesday.

989
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would direct everybody to TNA Wrestling

990
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: dot Com. On Twitter, It's this is TNA on are

991
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: now X, on ex Twitter, this is CNA on Instagram,

992
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: It's TNA Wrestling. But that's where everything is. And with

993
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: this air date, that means we are talking about Albany

994
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: this Friday and Saturday night. Friday night will be under

995
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: siege at the Washington Street Armory and Saturday night will

996
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: be a TV taping in Albany.

997
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: That's this weekend coming up.

998
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: If this is airing a week from today, yeah, this weekend?

999
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 4: All right?

1000
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: So do you want to plug your socials?

1001
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: Lou Underscore, Das and dog A and E E. L

1002
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: I is Instagram and L d Angeli is ex Twitter,

1003
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 4: Twitter X all right, And I don't have my web

1004
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: TV email that you have anymore, but I.

1005
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: Was gonna, yeah, I was going to send you something.

1006
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: On web t eighty five years ago.

1007
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: Hey man, you who invented online poker.

1008
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: Apparently you know what would be fun if we were

1009
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: all in the same location and we can play poker.

1010
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 4: Here's a website that me and my buddies use that

1011
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: you can just start a game. People could just sign

1012
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: in and you can play. And you just said a lot.

1013
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: I want to play at a table like with real Yeah.

1014
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, I'm just trying to hear me. I'm trying

1015
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: my best.

1016
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: You played with phil Ivy, didn't you?

1017
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: Was it phil Ivy or I've.

1018
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: Never played with phil Ivey. I've played at tables with

1019
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: John Raisner, Andy Duke.

1020
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: No, who was the one you played with that you

1021
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: called me and you were freaking out over Daniel Mgrano

1022
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: Probably was it Daniel.

1023
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: I never played at a table with phil Ivy. That

1024
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: would be sick.

1025
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was on line.

1026
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: I thought you played with with Oh.

1027
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: That yeah, okay, that's that was a long time ago,

1028
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: and that was it was phil Ivey. It was poker, Okay.

1029
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: I always think of in person for me.

1030
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm talking about I remember when you played

1031
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: with him and you lost your you literally lost your ship.

1032
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a screenshot of that because I couldn't like, Yes,

1033
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: that was full till Poker before Black Friday. I think

1034
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 4: it was two thousand and ten or eleven, So I

1035
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: just moved to Vegas, and I actually was playing I

1036
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: had gone back to Philadelphia for something. I was playing

1037
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: online poker in Philadelphia on full tilt and played at

1038
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: a table. That's correct. Thanks for reminding me of myself.

1039
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: I forgot.

1040
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: I knew it was phil Ivy.

1041
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 1: Now you can't tell me it wasn't.

1042
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: But you've played with all these other people in Vegas live.

1043
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Is it just like you you go into a casino

1044
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: and you sign up for like one of the tournaments

1045
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: or was it like the World Series of Poker or.

1046
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was all WSOP events and I just happened

1047
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 4: to either be seated at a table with them or

1048
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: something just came together. It's a whole what's that?

1049
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: How intimidated were you?

1050
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 4: Look? I'm a fan of poker, So the first thing

1051
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: was I thought it was cool, and then the second

1052
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 4: thing was, boy, you gotta play tight and watch the

1053
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: shit man, because these guys are not not playing around.

1054
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: I played a hand against I have to pull her

1055
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: name up. Her name's Kelly Something. She's called the Ill

1056
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: and I'm looking for right now. She was easily the

1057
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: most difficult person. I can't find her right I don't

1058
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: want to waste your time. But it was whatever. She

1059
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 4: was unbelievable, like unbelievable, and I had a real hand,

1060
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: and the way that she bet and made me doubt

1061
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: my hand like shoe I ended up. No, she didn't

1062
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 4: show she she bet, I raise, she folded. I had

1063
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: no idea what she had. I had a pair of

1064
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: tens with like two overs on the board. I remember

1065
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: it really well, but I remember the whole time like

1066
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: it's it's weird for me when you play against the

1067
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: pro the whole time you think they have it because

1068
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: you just don't know. And it's like that was that's.

1069
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: Tough series of pooker. How how far did you get?

1070
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: Like what was your highest ranking?

1071
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 4: I never got past day one, so okay, Yeah, and

1072
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 4: I made it to the last hour of day one once,

1073
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: which was I was just trying to hang on. I

1074
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: was like, I just want to make it the day too,

1075
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: so I could say it bagged my chips for day

1076
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 4: two And I remember that hour, I had like five

1077
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: thousand and chips and the average stack at that point

1078
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: was like a hundred cats.

1079
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: I would love to do one of those. I've played

1080
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: the ones on online, like the vatellites. Yeah, to advance.

1081
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 4: But that's tough, man, it's not. And those guys you

1082
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: know it's dead serious. You know, you get some goofballs.

1083
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: But you know, the most intimidating thing I always tell

1084
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: people about poker is just sitting down at the table

1085
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 4: and then once you're there, it just kind of goes.

1086
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm always afraid I'll count the wrong amount of chips,

1087
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: and then I.

1088
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: Do that all the time. I feel like it was

1089
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: just awful because sorry, I'm trying to find her name again.

1090
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: What's that You're a big JABRUNI.

1091
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 4: No, it's it's like I'll be like, I'll somebody will

1092
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: make a bet and I'll go to rays and I'll

1093
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: won't count the rais right because I'm nervous. Hey, you

1094
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: have to at least double the bet. And you're like, yeah,

1095
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: I know that, but I forgot.

1096
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: To see if if people want to play poker that

1097
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: weekend when we're in.

1098
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

1099
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun.

1100
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: We actually should talk to the wrestle kan guy and

1101
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 4: do a restle cade guy and do a restlcade wrestling

1102
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: tourlet poker tour.

1103
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: Now what we should, but there are so many shows

1104
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: that are going on that way.

1105
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: It's like wrestle. There's a movie.

1106
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: We need like ten, ten to fifteen people, and then

1107
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: you get a bunch of fans to play too, and

1108
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 4: everything is kind of cool.

1109
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Can't we just play in somebody's room?

1110
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what we have the best brother hangs ever,

1111
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: So we do.

1112
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: Let's try to think that happened. Somebody needs to just

1113
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: bring a deck of cards.

1114
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: That's fine. I usually have one and chips. Right, yeah,

1115
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: here we go, here we go.

1116
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: Now we're doing it all right. Well, I'm so glad.

1117
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I saw you because again, it had

1118
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: been too long, and it's kind of like this year,

1119
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: I've been reuniting with a lot of people, and I

1120
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: really do want to keep in touch this time because,

1121
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: like we said before, we were telling everybody at the table, we.

1122
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: Were like we were so close at one point and

1123
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: then we kind of just.

1124
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 4: Happened. People things evolve and then also too now I mean, frankly,

1125
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: with you know, texting, it sounds so old, but I

1126
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: mean it's easy to get in touch with each other,

1127
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And my my thing about

1128
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: going to that ECW show, and Myers had asked me

1129
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: like a couple of weeks before, you know, will you

1130
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: go with me and a bunch of us will go

1131
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: And so met him and Nick and a few other

1132
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: guys went, and my whole thing was I really just

1133
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: want to see people and just say hi to them

1134
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: and get a picture with them. You know, everyone says

1135
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 4: take the picture, ye no pictures with like anybody, And

1136
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: it's important to me, like, you know, for those kind

1137
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: of memories, because you guys are all people I worked

1138
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: with for so long, and like when I look back

1139
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: at the pictures I have from ECW, it's either me

1140
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: holding a brownie or like some random, some random thing

1141
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: from like backstage that I necessarily don't sure, but you

1142
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I was happy to see everybody.

1143
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: It really was, Like when I got back to the

1144
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: bar that night and we were all hanging out, like

1145
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: I was like, man, that was cool. I'm really happy

1146
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: I did that. Because he asked, Brian like, I'm very

1147
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 4: hesitant Sabou was here. I came to one of our

1148
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: now he was doing an autograph signing that one of

1149
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 4: our at the same location of one of our impact shows,

1150
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: and Brian's like, you got to go up and say

1151
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: hi to him. I was like, you guy, don't want

1152
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: to see me and we had the best time. You

1153
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's like, you know, I never

1154
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: you know whatever, but it was. It's been awesome. It

1155
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: was awesome seeing everybody.

1156
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well. I was happy to see you.

1157
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the show. Everybody, go support

1158
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: TNA Wrestling. If you want to follow me on socials,

1159
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: you can find me across the board at ECW DVA. Freetine.

1160
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: I hope you're staying safe. I hope you're staying healthy,

1161
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: and most of all, I hope you are saying extreme